Objects and items upgrade on aprs.fi maps

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Pierre F5OPV

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Oct 15, 2016, 2:18:48 AM10/15/16
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Hi everybody,

it seems to me that objects and items comments aren't upgraded on aprs.fi maps,
though they are on aprs-is network. (cf station F5OPV-Wx1 below)

Any way to get it upgraded, Hessu ?

Thanks a lot for your answer

best 73 from f5opv Pierre

PS: last frames of an item as follows

2016-10-14 13:53:12 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:{{zTrame Data-Perso experimentale # 20 [Unsupported experimental]
2016-10-14 13:53:14 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:!4354.50N/00048.72WIClient APRS-IS embarqu<0xc3><0xa9> (M<0xc3><0xa9>t<0xc3><0xa9>o,T<0xc3><0xa9>l<0xc3><0xa9>mesure,Objets APRS,SMS,...) en test.
2016-10-14 13:58:04 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:)F5OPV-Wx1!4353.00N100052.00W_Wx: Tshack: 27.44<0xc2><0xb0>C / PA: 1004.51hPa / Hshack: 40.67%
2016-10-14 13:58:09 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:T#021,21,139,085,000,101,01000100
2016-10-14 13:58:10 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK::F5OPV    :Message de test # 21
2016-10-14 13:58:14 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:{{zTrame Data-Perso experimentale # 21 [Unsupported experimental]
2016-10-14 13:58:16 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:!4354.50N/00048.72WIClient APRS-IS embarqu<0xc3><0xa9> (M<0xc3><0xa9>t<0xc3><0xa9>o,T<0xc3><0xa9>l<0xc3><0xa9>mesure,Objets APRS,SMS,...) en test.
2016-10-14 14:02:53 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:>Impl<0xc3><0xa9>mentation du protocole APRS sur plateforme Arduino/ESP8266 by F5OPV
2016-10-14 14:03:06 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:)F5OPV-Wx1!4353.00N100052.00W_Wx: Tshack: 27.39<0xc2><0xb0>C / PA: 1004.56hPa / Hshack: 40.57%
2016-10-14 14:03:13 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:T#022,22,139,085,000,101,01000100
2016-10-14 14:03:15 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK::F5OPV    :Message de test # 22
2016-10-14 14:03:17 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:{{zTrame Data-Perso experimentale # 22 [Unsupported experimental]
2016-10-14 14:03:18 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:!4354.50N/00048.72WIClient APRS-IS embarqu<0xc3><0xa9> (M<0xc3><0xa9>t<0xc3><0xa9>o,T<0xc3><0xa9>l<0xc3><0xa9>mesure,Objets APRS,SMS,...) en test.
2016-10-14 14:07:55 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:>Hardware: Wemos D1 Mini WiFi Board / Firmware: Aquitania_WW v1.11
2016-10-14 14:08:05 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:)F5OPV-Wx1!4353.00N100052.00W_Wx: Tshack: 27.47<0xc2><0xb0>C / PA: 1004.64hPa / Hshack: 40.51%
2016-10-14 14:08:12 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:T#023,23,139,085,000,101,01000100
2016-10-14 14:08:13 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK::F5OPV    :Message de test # 23
2016-10-14 14:08:15 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:{{zTrame Data-Perso experimentale # 23 [Unsupported experimental]
2016-10-14 14:08:17 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:!4354.50N/00048.72WIClient APRS-IS embarqu<0xc3><0xa9> (M<0xc3><0xa9>t<0xc3><0xa9>o,T<0xc3><0xa9>l<0xc3><0xa9>mesure,Objets APRS,SMS,...) en test.

Heikki Hannikainen

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Oct 15, 2016, 2:40:27 AM10/15/16
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2016, Pierre F5OPV wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> it seems to me that objects and items comments aren't upgraded on aprs.fi maps,
> though they are on aprs-is network. (cf station F5OPV-Wx1 below)
>
> Any way to get it upgraded, Hessu ?

Hi,

F5OPV-Wx1 is using a weather station symbol, and the APRS parser used by
aprs.fi (Ham::APRS::FAP, open source) does not parse comments and comment
extensions for weather stations - instead, it tries to interpret it as
weather data:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=F5OPV-IOT&limit=5&view=decoded

This is apparently to avoid ambiguity between weather parsing and other
information stored in the comment; for example, a car's course and speed
can be encoded the same way as a weather stations' wind direction and
speed. It's a bit silly, but the APRS specification (APRS101.PDF) says "In
this case, the Weather Report is identified with the weather symbol /_ or
\_ in the APRS Data." - the symbol is actually used to decide weather the
packet is parsed as a weather report or not.

I'll discuss with Tapio, who originally wrote that code, and other parser
authors if that can be relaxed.

In the mean time, you can switch the symbol character to something else
than '_' to have comments parsed.

> 2016-10-14 13:58:04 UTC: F5OPV-IoT>APZ40,TCPIP*,qAC,T2DENMARK:)F5OPV-Wx1!4353.00N100052.00W_Wx: Tshack: 27.44<0xc2><0xb0>C / PA: 1004.51hPa / Hshack: 40.67%

- Hessu

Heikki Hannikainen

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Oct 15, 2016, 2:42:26 AM10/15/16
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Heikki Hannikainen wrote:

> F5OPV-Wx1 is using a weather station symbol, and the APRS parser used by
> aprs.fi (Ham::APRS::FAP, open source) does not parse comments and comment
> extensions for weather stations - instead, it tries to interpret it as
> weather data:
>
> http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=F5OPV-IOT&limit=5&view=decoded

and this was the link I actually wanted to paste, pointing to the code:

https://github.com/hessu/perl-aprs-fap/blob/master/FAP.pm#L1477

The decoded format shows that the 'comment' field was not decoded from the
packet, due to the WX symbol.

- Hessu

Pierre F5OPV

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Oct 15, 2016, 6:04:04 AM10/15/16
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Thank you Hessu for links about FAP and traffic analysis sentence I didn't knew .

I will change aprs symbol for wx item.

Hats off for the quality of your aprs.fi website.
Find it very promising for Hamradio Internet Objects display (wx, telemetry, sms, remote control and monitoring of ham gear, .............) .

73 de f5opv





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