Hi All and JBQ,
I quickly surf the Bluedroid source code which is released under
"Apache License, Version 2.0 ".
I see SBC audio codec is integrated as a default A2DP Bluetooth codec, but is there any restriction to integrate other Vendor Specific A2DP codecs as part of A2DP profile in Bluedroid?
Many thanks,
Ash
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If I would want to work on making my own API where should I look for? Where's the jni interface now?
Hi Manuel
I don't have more info on the BLE schedule at this time.
Thanks
Matthew
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Manuel Naranjo<naranjo...@gmail.com <mailto:naranjo.manuel@gmail.com>> wrote:android-platform@googlegroups.__com
Matthew,
BLE will be the next major feature we are going to add.
Any ETA on this? Will it make it for the next Android major release?
(~6 months), or are you planning on a shorter release cycle for this?
Regards,
Manuel
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Hi Dave,Checkout the Smart Utilities from Nordic. They can be found on play store for free and enables BLE on Samsung Galaxy S3 (unfortunately only some heartrate monitor + proximity, but you can scan and connect etc).
On Friday, 23 November 2012 18:44:04 UTC+1, dave w wrote:Joining this thread because BLE is of utmost importance to me. Disappointed to find the SGS3 I just purchased, despite being advertised as 'Smart BT ready', is not actually ready (or at least not active). I am increasingly using BLE devices in my research program and so far have been forced to iOS because of the lack of support for Android. Surely consumers will (and have) started complaining about this too, especially once things like the Pebble watch, one of the largest Kickstarter campaigns in history, starts shipping early next year (presumably). I'd really like to keep an eye on this because, as of right now, lack of BLE (BT4.0) on Android devices means I'm forced to distribute iOS devices to my team. That kind of dirty feeling doesn't scrub off easily.
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:30:58 PM UTC-5, mark diener wrote:Matthew, I am going to purchase a Google Nexus 7 tablet because it supposedly has bluetooth 4.0 broadcom 4330 chipset inside it.
Nobody at google play could actually answer that question and the online specs only say "Bluetooth", while trade publications indicate 4.0. Not so for Nexus 10 Tablet with JB4.2, it has BT 3.0HS supposedly.
Any chance you guys inside the inner sanctum at google could confirm to another engineer the Bluetooth 4.0/BLE level inside Nexus 7 JB4.2 and/or Nexus 10 JB4.2?
It would really help since Broadcom has a BLE SDK at http://code.google.com/p/broadcom-ble/ seems to be gearing up to this end and
Many thanks,
Mark Diener
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Hi Dave,
Checkout the Smart Utilities from Nordic. They can be found on play store for free and enables BLE on Samsung Galaxy S3 (unfortunately only some heartrate monitor + proximity, but you can scan and connect etc).
On Friday, 23 November 2012 18:44:04 UTC+1, dave w wrote:
Joining this thread because BLE is of utmost importance to me. Disappointed to find the SGS3 I just purchased, despite being advertised as 'Smart BT ready', is not actually ready (or at least not active). I am increasingly using BLE devices in my research program and so far have been forced to iOS because of the lack of support for Android. Surely consumers will (and have) started complaining about this too, especially once things like the Pebble watch, one of the largest Kickstarter campaigns in history, starts shipping early next year (presumably). I'd really like to keep an eye on this because, as of right now, lack of BLE (BT4.0) on Android devices means I'm forced to distribute iOS devices to my team. That kind of dirty feeling doesn't scrub off easily.
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:30:58 PM UTC-5, mark diener wrote:
Matthew, I am going to purchase a Google Nexus 7 tablet because it supposedly has bluetooth 4.0 broadcom 4330 chipset inside it.Nobody at google play could actually answer that question and the online specs only say "Bluetooth", while trade publications indicate 4.0. Not so for Nexus 10 Tablet with JB4.2, it has BT 3.0HS supposedly.Any chance you guys inside the inner sanctum at google could confirm to another engineer the Bluetooth 4.0/BLE level inside Nexus 7 JB4.2 and/or Nexus 10 JB4.2?It would really help since Broadcom has a BLE SDK at http://code.google.com/p/broadcom-ble/ seems to be gearing up to this end andMany thanks,
Mark Diener
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:53:57 PM UTC-6, Matthew Xie wrote:
Where i can find TI(wl1251) implementation of vendor lib?
Thanks.
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On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:53:22 UTC-5, Matthew Xie wrote:Hi Manuel
I don't have more info on the BLE schedule at this time.ThanksMatthew
Hi Matthew. Thanks for your candid answer. That BLE has (finally!) percolated up is indeed good news!
We can understand that you as a developer may not know the release date. But there must (or should) be somebody inside Google that knows.We would like that person to speak up. Please ask your manager to speak up, or have them contact me. I need to know how many tens of thousandsof iPhones I will have to buy to use before I can start using Android in medical apps (actually its' more like tens than thousands, but that's just forthe little research group I work in; worldwide, the number of iPhone/iPad sales that are being made merely because Google dropped the ball on BLEprobably *is* in the tens of thousands ... per month). And everytime somebody starts up a new project, the number goes up. AND THESE PEOPLEWILL NEVER COME BACK TO ANDROID.
Please, have your manager speak up, or contact me by email (Google knows it).
Thank you.
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On Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:03:05 UTC+1, mark diener wrote:Ian:
If you magically are contacted by Google with a tentative BLE release date,
please make like Oliver Twist and SHARE your information.
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Rumours say that next version of Android to be launch in may will be 4.3 and not 5.0. I am afraid that BLE won't be supported in may and that we might have to wait for key Lime Pie in autumn...
Rumours say that next version of Android to be launch in may will be 4.3 and not 5.0. I am afraid that BLE won't be supported in may and that we might have to wait for key Lime Pie in autumn...
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What news? I saw that they would be releasing 4.3 rather then 5 at I/O, but that doesn't mean they won't release BLE.I think we are all jaded because of bad experience of Nexus Bluetooth, but Google is now serious about Bluetooth because Glass uses Bluetooth. And according to FCC, Glass's Bluetooth includes BLE, so the new desire to make Bluetooth work on Nexus should extend to BLE too.So, I'm still betting that we see BLE at I/O.
is there a law against speculations and hope? because nobody here said that what matthew said lead to any certitude...
Le vendredi 3 mai 2013 16:27:11 UTC+2, Pedro Carneiro a écrit :Please lets cut the speculation. What was said by Matthew was that during the IO we gonna learn if BLE support will or won't be on the next android release. He has not confirmed that it will be there and either not confirmed that we gonna see an android release during the IO. We shall not let our expectations biase what was said. In the end, this is why google people generally avoid to giving any hint on sensitive information to the public.
Em quinta-feira, 2 de maio de 2013 13h15min51s UTC-3, Cyril CATALDO escreveu:English is not my mother language but I understand from these words that BLE will be supported on next android version. Personally I don't take if it's called 4.3 or 5.0But google could reveal a new android version during IO and still make it available in october only. I hope I am just pessimistic and that my phone will be BLE in summer !thanks anyway Matthew. let's wait 2 weeks. it won't be long now.
Here's the Bluetooth session at I/O where (presumably) any remaining questions will be resolved...(Note Mathew listed as presenter.)
Tom
Hi,I am using Bluedroid in Android JB 4.2 release. I am unable to determine if "Wideband Speech - HFP 1.6"is supported on the stack.(I am not familiar much with Bluetooth. If it helps, I am using JB 4.2 on AR6233/IMX6 paltform).Best Regards,Sandeep
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:12:21 PM UTC+5:30, Felix Lösch wrote:Dear Matthew,
I have currently problems using the new Bluedroid stack with MyPhoneExplorer app because of missing Serial Port Profile (SPP) in the new blueetooth stack. Are there any plans of implementing SPP in bluedroid in the future?
If so, when will it be released?
Best regards,
Felix
Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 21:53:57 UTC+1 schrieb Matthew Xie:
I will answer the questions as I can.We don't have resource to maintain both Bluedroid stack and bluez stack. Blue support is stopped after 4.2.BLE will be the next major feature we are going to add.Other a2dp codec can be added. We only implemented SBC because it's mandatory.Vendor need to implement bt_vendor_interface_t. The interface defines the way vendor lib and bluetooth stack interact to bring up and config the Bluetooth Controller. The defintion is in external/bluetooth/bluedroid/hci/include/bt_vendor_lib.h.
We don't have other document, it all in the code, fully open-source. Please see bt_vendor_lib.h on the meanings of the opcode, such as BT_VND_OP_POWER_CTRL.
device/common/libbt/src/bt_vendor_brcm.c contains broadcom implementation of vendor lib.hardware/qcom/bt/libbt-vendor/src/bt_vendor_qcom.c contains qualcomm implementation of vendor lib.
ThanksMatthew
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:35:59 AM UTC-8, Pavan - ಪವನ್ wrote:
Matthew, Can you help answer the rest of questions?
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, ASHISH <ashish...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All and JBQ,
I quickly surf the Bluedroid source code which is released under "Apache License, Version 2.0 ".
I see SBC audio codec is integrated as a default A2DP Bluetooth codec, but is there any restriction to integrate other Vendor Specific A2DP codecs as part of A2DP profile in Bluedroid?
Many thanks,
Ash
On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:55:52 UTC, Pavan - ಪವನ್ wrote:
Hello Google Gurus,I see that BT on 4.2 JB MR has introduced a new stack called bluedroid, and understand a lot of code is from broadcom, So I have these basic questions :-1. Is bluedroid the way forward ? Or will the vendors have option to switch to BlueZ ?I see even packages/apps/Bluetooth.apk JNI only looks up to bluetooth.default (i.e bluedroid) & NOT to legacy libbluedroid (system/bluetooth) - Why ?2. Why was the decision taken to move away from BlueZ ?Is the decision technical ? What is that which you found in BRCM stack which was missing in BlueZ?Previously there were strong suggestions NOT to have proprietary stacks for technologies since they introduce a LOT of fragmentation in Android - Which I am guessing Google guys don't want.3. Seeing that no new APIs have been introduced, nor the framework seems to be updated, Any plans for BLE in near future ?Or new profiles.4. Please let us know if there is any documentation for platform developers to port this stack to rest of the world BT vendors.i.e What are the basic implementation required forlibbt-vendor.so ?If we get most profiles working in 2 functions (op BT_VND_OP_POWER_CTRL & faking success BT_VND_OP_FW_CFG) Is that good enough ?--
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BTM_WBS_INCLUDED for wideband speech related code
This connection limitation is not platform specific but BT protocol specific. The LT_ADDR used is 3 bits in size (last known in 2.1 spec), which allows you to have a maximum of 7 devices connect to your device. Please confirm with the latest spec.
As far as BlueDroid is concerned and adoption of this BRCM stack, I believe OEMs want to be Bluetooth Smart Ready. I don’t think BlueZ used in Android is BLE conscious even.
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Jayanta
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