Jurassic Park Continuity Goofups
Ken Bair
> Mike Lorrain (mlor...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
>
> JP is a movie which does not stand up under scrutiny.
>
> Watch the door on the kid's car during the first T-rex scene, after the
> lawyer bolts. In at least one shot it is seen as closed, before the
> girl closes it.
>
> Doubtless one could make a career of finding these.
I'm sure every film has some errors. What I think is funny is how everybody
says that JP isn't a good film and then analyze it to death.
ken
LAURIE
The differences between a good film and an interesting film are many.
I've seen plenty of films with interesting aspects that I would not consider
to be anything even close to "good." JP is one of them. Bad script. Bad
acting. Bad plot. No character developement. But boy them dinosaurs are
neat-o!
George Kaplan
Scott Allen Mankey
the end. The raptors are about to eat everybody, then the T-Rex bursts in
and eats he raptors. Well, the first one the T-Rex picks up in his mouth
disappears for 1 frame about 3 frames after it gets picked up. You would
never spot it in realtime, but I can't understand how the animators let
this one slip by.
--
Scott
A termite walks into a bar and asks "Is the bartender here?"
Julian Jimenez
>
> One good JP goof that you can only spot with freeze frame, occurs towards
> the end. The raptors are about to eat everybody, then the T-Rex bursts in
> and eats he raptors. Well, the first one the T-Rex picks up in his mouth
> disappears for 1 frame about 3 frames after it gets picked up. You would
> never spot it in realtime, but I can't understand how the animators let
> this one slip by.
I've spotted this one too. On the PAL Laserdisc of JP it occurs at framne 35148. I'm not sure if
it's the same frame in the NTSC version but yes, the raptor definately disappears in that frame.
I'd like to know how you spotted it. Did you sit through the entire film using the frame advance
button?
Mr J.
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hoya
It is a good movie...I'm glad I have it in my collection...
another 'error' is kinda scientific...the T-Rex breath can kill a human!
It has enough bacteria to kill a human with one breath...go figure!
Fahad
Richard Ruffner
>
>od...@io.org (Chuck Kahn) writes:
>
>>In article <3jhhf6$p...@gulfa.ods.gulfnet.kw>,
>>ho...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw (hoya) wrote:
>>> > > JP is a movie which does not stand up under scrutiny.
>>> > >
>>> > > Watch the door on the kid's car during the first T-rex scene, after the
>>> > > lawyer bolts. In at least one shot it is seen as closed, before the
>>> > > girl closes it.
>
>have been menchioned before:
>
>1) It doesn't start raining until the stop by the sick tri-c, which means
>>after< the first stop at the T-rex paddick. But just before the cars leave
>the t-rex paddick (yes, the first time) the cars have raindrops all over the
>windows! And we have just seen an entirely clear blue sky... :(
>
>2) It is physically impossible to get an electric shock from hanging in an
>electric fence without touching the ground .. :(
Supposedly the ground wire runs through the fence.
>3) "This a UNIX-system... -I know this. This is easy..." ->NOT<-!
Does she actually say this is easy?
>
>4) The car doesnt _fall_ down though the branches of the tree. It _DRIVES_ down
>_on_ the side of the tree!
>
>5) How does a giant t-rex get in through a small door like the one in the main
>building? -And how can anyone in the same room not notice its presence until
>its two feet away?
I think it came through the plastic that was covering a wall that was under
construction.
>6) I think too much film ended up on the floor during the editing... _Why_ is
>the tri-c sick? Laura Dern examines its "dino droppings" (yuck) and its eyes,
>but we never get the answer... (in the book we do)
>
>7) -And how does the area in the t-rex paddick look? The t-rex can walk from
>its paddick across the fence and end up beside the cars, but the car that's
>pushed across the fence lands in a tree about 10 m. below...
>
>8) Michael Chrichton's entire message is lost in the movie. The point of the
>book is something like: "Don't try to control nature; it'll break loose and
>you can't control it" (that's still Malcolm's point in the movie). But the
>point in the film is: "Never hyre a computer scientist...". Sure, the dinosaurs
>breed, but it has _NO_ consequences!
>
>
>But apart from that i loved the movie...
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> "shit."
> -Gary Oldman, "LEON"
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Michael A. Flynn
> In article <3k4esv$9...@odin.diku.dk>, du...@diku.dk says...
> >
> >od...@io.org (Chuck Kahn) writes:
> >
> >>In article <3jhhf6$p...@gulfa.ods.gulfnet.kw>,
> >>ho...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw (hoya) wrote:
> >>> > > JP is a movie which does not stand up under scrutiny.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Watch the door on the kid's car during the first T-rex scene, after the
> >>> > > lawyer bolts. In at least one shot it is seen as closed, before the
> >>> > > girl closes it.
> >
> >As you can see, I've joined this thread rahter late, and I don't know if these
> >have been menchioned before:
> >
> >1) It doesn't start raining until the stop by the sick tri-c, which means
> >>after< the first stop at the T-rex paddick. But just before the cars leave
> >the t-rex paddick (yes, the first time) the cars have raindrops all over the
> >windows! And we have just seen an entirely clear blue sky... :(
> >
> >2) It is physically impossible to get an electric shock from hanging in an
> >electric fence without touching the ground .. :(
>
> Supposedly the ground wire runs through the fence.
>
Actually, it doesn't matter...he was touching more than 1 wire at the time, so he would actually complete a circuit and get fried. (Ever see a bird hit two hydro lines at the same time--zap--that's one fried bird).
> >3) "This a UNIX-system... -I know this. This is easy..." ->NOT<-!
>
> Does she actually say this is easy?
Yup...watched it two days ago...I almost fell out of my seat laughing when I heard it! Unix easy?!? Never!
> >
> >4) The car doesnt _fall_ down though the branches of the tree. It _DRIVES_ down
> >_on_ the side of the tree!
Never noticed this...I'll have to watch it again.
> >
> >5) How does a giant t-rex get in through a small door like the one in the main
> >building? -And how can anyone in the same room not notice its presence until
> >its two feet away?
>
> I think it came through the plastic that was covering a wall that was under
> construction.
This is true.
>
> >6) I think too much film ended up on the floor during the editing... _Why_ is
> >the tri-c sick? Laura Dern examines its "dino droppings" (yuck) and its eyes,
> >but we never get the answer... (in the book we do)
> >
> >7) -And how does the area in the t-rex paddick look? The t-rex can walk from
> >its paddick across the fence and end up beside the cars, but the car that's
> >pushed across the fence lands in a tree about 10 m. below...
> >
> >8) Michael Chrichton's entire message is lost in the movie. The point of the
> >book is something like: "Don't try to control nature; it'll break loose and
> >you can't control it" (that's still Malcolm's point in the movie). But the
> >point in the film is: "Never hyre a computer scientist...". Sure, the dinosaurs
> >breed, but it has _NO_ consequences!
> >
Well, in a way it does, since there now will be a semi-stable population of dinosaur's on that island...something the Costa Ricans probably won't be too keen on, since they actually own the island...
> >
> >But apart from that i loved the movie...
> >--
> >Jonas U, du...@diku.dk
> > "shit."
> > -Gary Oldman, "LEON"
>
> --
> Richard Ruffner, ECNE
> Lexis/Nexis, formerly
> Mead Data Central
> Dayton, OH
> rich...@meaddata.com
>
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Jeffrey Fritz
nsn...@iquest.net (Ned Snell) writes:
> Now that you brought up tree -- does anyone else wonder why Sam Neill
> and the kid scramble down the tree ahead of the car instead of simply
> moving to the other side of the tree and letting the car pass by?
I think it's the Jurassic Park equivalent of Indiana Jones running
from the rolling boulder. Same dramatic device.
Jeffrey Fritz
jfr...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
West Virginia University
z_vau...@titan.sfasu.edu
Their nerves have been fried from the T-Rex attack, Timmy is in shock and
afraid of heights, and would you have time to think about moving over? It is
possibly an equivalent to the Indy/boulder thing because he didn't quite have
time to think either. Suspend your disbelief is a much better "device".
Jonas Ussing
>>7) -And how does the area in the t-rex paddick look? The t-rex can walk from
>>its paddick across the fence and end up beside the cars, but the car that's
>>pushed across the fence lands in a tree about 10 m. below...
>I got the impression that the car fell off the other side of the road from
>where the T-Rex paddock is.
Hm. Interesting point of view, but I think the area on the other side of the
road is just flat forest, that's where the toilet is. (the toilet that gets
smashed up with Genaro inside...)
Ned Snell
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In article <3kjfqo$6...@odin.diku.dk>, du...@diku.dk (Jonas Ussing) says:
>
>wgi...@kbsi.com (Wes Gilpin) writes:
>
>>>7) -And how does the area in the t-rex paddick look? The t-rex can walk
from
>>>its paddick across the fence and end up beside the cars, but the car
that's
>>>pushed across the fence lands in a tree about 10 m. below...
>
>>I got the impression that the car fell off the other side of the road
from
>>where the T-Rex paddock is.
>
The car had to fall off the same side of the road that T-Rex came in
through because Our Heroes climb down using the fence cables T-Rex broke.
Peter Juul
I would still be VERY interested in knowing where they got the plants from.
The science-gal says, that they have been extinct for X years.
Since when do Mosquitoes suck DNA from PLANTS?
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my 2 cents...
I dont have a copy to check it, but I thought that the T-rex
was just before a bend in the road that looks over a canyon
of some sort... so the road stays level thorough a sort of
ravine. I dont know where I got the idea, maybe it's
described in the novel this way???
Carl
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JSM
>od...@io.org (Chuck Kahn) writes:
>
>As you can see, I've joined this thread rahter late, and I don't know if
these
>have been menchioned before:
>
from
>its paddick across the fence and end up beside the cars, but the car
that's
>pushed across the fence lands in a tree about 10 m. below...
>
Some of the production materials available show the layout of the T-Rex
paddock. A flat area (where the goat and the Rex are) is located next to a
precipice (where the car falls). Is this possible? Look around the world
and you'll see that it is. A fissure on a volcanic island can open up
creating just this type of scenario. Over time, the rain and waters
flowing through it will widen it and create the type of landscape
necessary to explain this supposed 'goof'.
John
Andy Bates
> In article <D5G0q...@dorite.use.com>
> nsn...@iquest.net (Ned Snell) writes:
>
> > Now that you brought up tree -- does anyone else wonder why Sam Neill
> > and the kid scramble down the tree ahead of the car instead of simply
> > moving to the other side of the tree and letting the car pass by?
>
> I think it's the Jurassic Park equivalent of Indiana Jones running
> from the rolling boulder. Same dramatic device.
Nope. Indy actually had a very good reason to run from the rolling
boulder, instead of under it (before it was on the ground) or around it:
if he hadn't, and had let it go ahead of him, it would have blocked the
exit and he would have been trapped. Notice that it blocks the cave
entrance when it stops.
Just a clarification on one of my favorite movies.
Andy Bates.
Kirk here
maf...@noether.math.uwaterloo.ca (Michael A. Flynn) writes:
> > >3) "This a UNIX-system... -I know this. This is easy..." ->NOT<-!
> >
> > Does she actually say this is easy?
>
> Yup...watched it two days ago...I almost fell out of my seat laughing when I heard it! Unix easy?!? Never!
>
By the way, what kind of idiotic Unix system is it???
I for sure have never seen anything like that except when I play a
classic flight sim. Do you get a system error if you crash into a
wall?????
But it is a GREAT movie!
Eskil
z_vau...@titan.sfasu.edu
Amen. Have fun with these movies, folks. If we didn't have escapist
entertainment, I don't know what I'd do. I'm sure those who have read great
adventure epics (_The Odyssey_etc.) don't sit and question the material. They
enjoy it for what it's worth. I don't think "Jurassic Park" is even close to a
masterpiece, but it's *fun*. I've said it a million times and I'll say it
again: SUSPEND YOUR DISBELIEF for a couple of hours, it's fun. You're going
to find a lot of mistakes, flubs, continuity mistakes, etc. if you pick apart
any film. I think "Jurassic Park" is getting a preponderance of flack because
it is so successful. I'm the type of person who leaves the room if people
start harping on little goof ups in films, but I am certainly open to critical
evaluation (which "Jurassic Park" has little room for much in depth analyzation
because of its escapist nature).
Try to have fun people. I don't want to sound preachy, this is just my
opinion. I further don't think you all are a bunch of idiots or anything, so I
don't wish to convey that sense.
Paul Vaughn SFASU
Jonas Ussing
>In article <3k4esv$9...@odin.diku.dk>, du...@diku.dk says...
>>
>>od...@io.org (Chuck Kahn) writes:
>>
>>>In article <3jhhf6$p...@gulfa.ods.gulfnet.kw>,
>>>ho...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw (hoya) wrote:
>>>> > > JP is a movie which does not stand up under scrutiny.
>>2) It is physically impossible to get an electric shock from hanging in an
>>electric fence without touching the ground .. :(
>Supposedly the ground wire runs through the fence.
Why would it do that? That would be about 100 times as complicated to make, and
absolutely pathetic, since there are no flying dinos in the T-rex paddick.
>>3) "This a UNIX-system... -I know this. This is easy..." ->NOT<-!
>Does she actually say this is easy?
Maybe not, but 13-year old girls cant even _spell_ UNIX.
>>5) How does a giant t-rex get in through a small door like the one in the main
>>building? -And how can anyone in the same room not notice its presence until
>>its two feet away?
>I think it came through the plastic that was covering a wall that was under
>construction.
hm.
>>But apart from that i loved the movie...
Still do.
>>Jonas U, du...@diku.dk
>Richard Ruffner, ECNE
>Lexis/Nexis, formerly
>Mead Data Central
>Dayton, OH
>rich...@meaddata.com
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Soren Ragsdale
: I would still be VERY interested in knowing where they got the plants from.
: The science-gal says, that they have been extinct for X years.
: Since when do Mosquitoes suck DNA from PLANTS?
It's certainly concievable that the sap could have covered a seed, or
even some pollen (OK, haploid genome, but at least it's SOMETHING), and
they could get it from there. Of course they didn't _say_ that. I seem
to remember there being an explanation in the book, but I forget exactly
what it was.
lestat
: By the way, what kind of idiotic Unix system is it???
: I for sure have never seen anything like that except when I play a
: classic flight sim. Do you get a system error if you crash into a
: wall?????
It is a real filing system they're using. I forget what it's
called. Basically for the technically impaired :-) That's the only reason
she could use it heh. I find it hard to believe that Nedry would have had
that crap on one of his machines though...
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Peter N Ivanov
|> rich...@meaddata.com (Richard Ruffner) writes:
|>
|> >In article <3k4esv$9...@odin.diku.dk>, du...@diku.dk says...
|> >>
|> >>od...@io.org (Chuck Kahn) writes:
|> >>
[stuff deleted]
|> >>3) "This a UNIX-system... -I know this. This is easy..." ->NOT<-!
|>
|> >Does she actually say this is easy?
|>
|> Maybe not, but 13-year old girls cant even _spell_ UNIX.
Now, I will not discuss how many 13 year old girls know how to spell UNIX,
and how many do not, but I think you are missing the point. You might be
an Unix guru, but this will NOT help you find a random program in an
unknown environment. Now, if the relevant program is active, and its
window is on top, you hardly need to know anything about Unix.
But then, how many of us would resist to boast of their knowledge of Unix,
even if it has nothing to do with the trivial task we make sound like a feat?
I remember fixing up a CONFIX.SYS file using a Advanced Fullscreen Debugger's
data window[1], in order to impress my boss (and not let him know how
insignificant the problem was)
Peter
[1] Ah, the old days...
meh...@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu
I guess an assumption could be made that - like today's mosquitoes -
the male of the species were flower lovers rather than blood
suckers like their female counterparts. Like bees and other
insects, male mosquitoes hop around from flower to flower, polinating
as they go along; I don't know why, though (nectar?)
Then again, I could be wrong...
-- Mark K. Ehlert
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P.S. Sorry about the horrid sentence structure and syntax.
Michael Rivero
NOt all insects are blood suckers. Ants often carry whole seeds back to
their nests (assuming they don't make a "sappy" mistake).
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That plus the fact that only the female mosquitoes suck blood. Or am
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> so...@GAS.UUG.Arizona.EDU (Soren Ragsdale) writes:
>
>>Peter Juul (rock...@diku.dk) wrote:
>>: I would still be VERY interested in knowing where they got the plants from.
>>: The science-gal says, that they have been extinct for X years.
>>: Since when do Mosquitoes suck DNA from PLANTS?
>
>>It's certainly concievable that the sap could have covered a seed, or
>>even some pollen (OK, haploid genome, but at least it's SOMETHING), and
>>they could get it from there. Of course they didn't _say_ that. I seem
>>to remember there being an explanation in the book, but I forget exactly
>>what it was.
>
> she thought only existed in some brazilian rain forests..
> --
Insiders from the film admit that it was a script mistake to even say that any
of the plants in the movie were extinct for millions of years. The plants in
the book were just tropical plants that closely resembled many extinct species.
I think the purpose of the line in the film when Ellie states something like
"Allan, this species of plant has been extinct for blah blah million years" was
to add contrast in her amazment of a measly extinct plant to her bedazzled
shock when she first sees the brachiosaur. The book didn't say anything about
cloning plants. The film script took the liberty including it for what reasons
I really don't know.
Paul Vaughn SFASU
Peter Juul
Oh, there was. In the book Ellie Sattler notices, that it is a plant, that
she thought only existed in some brazilian rain forests..
