at top right corner or at right top corner

[Leza Wang]

Hi
Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)

1) At top right corner OR At right top corner
2) At bottom left corner OR At left bottom corner

Thanks a lot indeed.

[Guy Barry]

"Leza Wang" wrote in message
news:356929ff-5a90-457f...@googlegroups.com...

>
>Hi
>Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)
>
>1) At top right corner OR At right top corner
>2) At bottom left corner OR At left bottom corner

The first alternative is more idiomatic in each case. I wouldn't say the
other version is wrong, but it sounds unnatural to me.

--
Guy Barry

[Harrison Hill]

Me too.

[Derek Turner]

None of them is idiomatic. At THE top right-HAND corner etc.

Though all of your versions would be understood.

[Nick Spalding]

Harrison Hill wrote, in
<f2524852-5236-4037...@f8g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
on Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:43:50 -0800 (PST):

And me.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I agree about the "the", but omitting the "-hand" is now so common that
it can be regarded as idiomatic. (Omitting the "the" would also be
idiomatic in a minimalist version: "at top right" sounds OK to me.)

Any suggestions (other than "that's just the way it is") why "top" has
to come before "right"?


--
athel

[Paul Wolff]

Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> writes

>On Jan 27, 5:24 pm, "Guy Barry" <guy.ba...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Leza Wang"  wrote in message

>> >Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)
>>
>> >1) At top right corner  OR  At right top corner
>> >2) At bottom left corner OR At left bottom corner
>>
>> The first alternative is more idiomatic in each case.  I wouldn't say the
>> other version is wrong, but it sounds unnatural to me.
>
>Me too.

They're all wrong. The phrases are meant to be unambiguous, and to
distinguish one corner from all the others. The shape with the corners
is usually a rectangle, but it needn't be. There are definitely corners
there, and the phrase always identifies the selected corner as "the"
corner. You need to include the definite article in each case.

At /the/ top right corner, or at /the/ bottom left corner, would be the
more common phrases. I think most BrE speakers tend to put top and
bottom before left and right, but it isn't an absolute rule.

In contrast, the phrases top left, top right, bottom left, and bottom
right, if used on their own, always seem to come out that way. Perhaps
that's because a top and a bottom can be independent objects, and a
structure can have more than one top, and more than one bottom, so left
top, or right top, could be misunderstood as distinguishing between the
two tops.
--
Paul

[Derek Turner]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:17:50 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

>
> I agree about the "the", but omitting the "-hand" is now so common that
> it can be regarded as idiomatic. (Omitting the "the" would also be
> idiomatic in a minimalist version: "at top right" sounds OK to me.)

Though not to me (BrE)

[Dr Nick]

I think I'm with Derek. I'd understand "in the top right corner", but I
think I'd always say "in the top righthand corner".

[R H Draney]

Athel Cornish-Bowden filted:

>
>On 2013-01-27 18:12:23 +0000, Derek Turner said:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:19:27 -0800, Leza Wang wrote:
>>>
>>> 1) At top right corner OR At right top corner 2) At bottom left corner
>>> OR At left bottom corner
>

>Any suggestions (other than "that's just the way it is") why "top" has
>to come before "right"?

Same reason (that *is* in fact just the way it is) that you tell the garage
you're hearing a noise from the "left front tire"....r


--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

[John Varela]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:17:50 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

> Any suggestions (other than "that's just the way it is") why "top" has
> to come before "right"?

There is a hierarchy of adjectives that all native speakers know
implicitly and that I understand someone has codified.

For example, one would say "a tall, green tree" but never "a green,
tall tree". We all know that but I for one can't explain it. It just
is.

--
John Varela

[Stan Brown]

Agreed. I would accept "at top right" (omitting "the" and "corner")
or "at the top right corner".

--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
--Mark Twain
Stan Brown, Tompkins County, NY, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com

[Mike Barnes]

Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>:
>I remember it as "TRuBLe" (Top Right, Bottom Left), as that is the order
>used in CSS to specify border-widths

Surely that's "top, right, bottom, left"? I never heard that mnemonic
before, and it wouldn't have suited me. I instinctively use an image-
based rather than a text-based model: I start at the top and proceed
clockwise.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

[Derek Turner]

On 27/01/2013 18:48, R H Draney wrote:
> Same reason (that*is* in fact just the way it is) that you tell the garage

> you're hearing a noise from the "left front tire"....r

(BrE) The nearside front tyre OR front nearside

[R H Draney]

Derek Turner filted:

Hontoh?...given that you lot drive from the right, the "nearside" tyre is the
one farthest from you?...

Instead of "left" or "right", we often say "driver's side" or "passenger
side"....r

[James Silverton]

I can safely say that I have never used "driver's side" or "passenger
side" except when I am discussing a car. There is also the possibility
of Transpondian confusion.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

[Jerry Friedman]

On Jan 27, 11:17 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden <acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr>
wrote:

> On 2013-01-27 18:12:23 +0000, Derek Turner said:
>
> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:19:27 -0800, Leza Wang wrote:
>
> >> Hi Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)
>
> >> 1) At top right corner  OR  At right top corner 2) At bottom left corner
> >> OR At left bottom corner
>
> >> Thanks a lot indeed.
>
> > None of them is idiomatic. At THE top right-HAND corner etc.
>
> > Though all of your versions would be understood.
>
> I agree about the "the", but omitting the "-hand" is now so common that
> it can be regarded as idiomatic.

...

Indeed, not adding the redundant "-hand" is idiomatic, although adding
it is now common, for a sufficiently long sense of "now"--bare "Ryght"
appears in this sense in 1489 (Caxton) and "righthande" in 1587 (one
F. Clement). Certainly "right corner" (which happens to be Caxton's
phrase) can be ambiguous and sometimes needs a "hand" or some such,
but I don't think there's any problem with "top right corner".

In British English, "top right-hand corner" is maybe 20 or 25 percent
more common than "top right corner" according to Google ngrams.

http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=top+right+corner%2Ctop+right-hand+corner&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=

In American English, "top right corner" is around twice as common.

(I hardly ever say "right-hand" and "left-hand"--if I need to avoid
ambiguity, I do it some other way. However, I hear them often.)

--
Jerry Friedman

[Mike L]

On 29 Jan 2013 12:23:22 -0800, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
wrote:

>Derek Turner filted:
>>
>>On 27/01/2013 18:48, R H Draney wrote:
>>> Same reason (that*is* in fact just the way it is) that you tell the garage
>>> you're hearing a noise from the "left front tire"....r
>>
>>(BrE) The nearside front tyre OR front nearside
>
>Hontoh?...given that you lot drive from the right, the "nearside" tyre is the
>one farthest from you?...

Yes. It's near the kerb, not near the driver. The side from which you
mount a horse. Opposite is "off side".

>Instead of "left" or "right", we often say "driver's side" or "passenger
>side"....r

I think that's becoming usual here, too.

--
Mike.

[John Varela]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:27:50 UTC, Derek Turner <frd...@cesmail.net>
wrote:

Wait a minute! Don't "nearside" and "farside" refer respectively to
the sides from which one does or does not mount a horse? When it
comes to autos, the British driver "mounts" his right-hand drive
vehicle from the side opposite to the one from which he would mount
a horse. So in automotive usage, aren't nearside and farside
ambiguous? Or reversed? Or best avoided?

--
John Varela

[John Varela]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:23:22 UTC, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
wrote:

Oops. I should have read ahead. You beat me to it.

--
John Varela

[John Varela]

If it has reference to the curb instead of to mounting, then
shouldn't it be port and starboard?

--
John Varela

[musika]

It's "offside" - "farside" would be too comic.

--
Ray
UK

[R H Draney]

John Varela filted:

You definitely want to avoid them if you're having something amputated...my
mother's surgeon displayed the only trace of a sense of humor we ever saw in him
by marking "don't cut here!" before she was put under...the correct porcellus
plorans domum was dutifully removed....r

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

It's a damn sight clearer. I've always hated "nearside" and "offside",
which are just plain obscurantist.



--
athel

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2013-01-28 18:16:33 +0100, Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> In message <Alean5Ao...@34klh41lk4h1lk34h3lk4h1k4.invalid>

> Mike Barnes <mikeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>:
>>> I remember it as "TRuBLe" (Top Right, Bottom Left), as that is the order
>>> used in CSS to specify border-widths
>
>> Surely that's "top, right, bottom, left"?
>

> I suppose.

>
>> I never heard that mnemonic
>> before, and it wouldn't have suited me. I instinctively use an image-
>> based rather than a text-based model: I start at the top and proceed
>> clockwise.
>

> Funny things, mnemonics. I remember it as top right, bottom left. I
> think of those corners of the rectangle and that tells me the order.
> Then I translate that to "TRouBLe" if I need to tell someone else the
> order. So I have two mnemonics, one for how I remember it and one for
> how I tell everyone else to remember it.

I've spent a lot of time thinking of new mnemonics in the past week --
I had two credit cards stolen a couple of weeks ago (following an
extreme bit of stupidity on my part), and I now have two new ones with
different PINs, together with a withdrawal card that I previously
didn't use. So now I have three secret numbers to learn.

--
athel

[Guy Barry]

"Athel Cornish-Bowden" wrote in message
news:amt25g...@mid.individual.net...

>It's a damn sight clearer. I've always hated "nearside" and "offside",
>which are just plain obscurantist.

Particularly since the offside is nearer to the driver than the nearside.

On a similar point, it's been noted that the inside lane of a motorway is on
the outside, and the outside lane is on the inside.

--
Guy Barry

[Guy Barry]

"Athel Cornish-Bowden" wrote in message

news:amt2nf...@mid.individual.net...

>I've spent a lot of time thinking of new mnemonics in the past week --
>I had two credit cards stolen a couple of weeks ago (following an extreme
>bit of stupidity on my part), and I now have two new ones with different
>PINs, together with a withdrawal card that I previously didn't use. So now
>I have three secret numbers to learn.

How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers? There are things like the
Major mnemonic system, which assigns one or more letters to each digit, but
I don't know if that's widely used. I generally don't have trouble
remembering numbers, so it's never been an issue for me.

--
Guy Barry

[Mike Barnes]

Athel Cornish-Bowden <athe...@yahoo.co.uk>:

>I had two credit cards stolen a couple of weeks ago (following an
>extreme bit of stupidity on my part), and I now have two new ones with
>different PINs, together with a withdrawal card that I previously
>didn't use. So now I have three secret numbers to learn.

Would you like a reliable and secure way of having a different PIN for
every card, that makes minimal demands on your memory? Here's what I do.
I derive the PIN from the card number using a simple algorithm. For
example, my algorithm might be the 4th, 6th, 1st, and 3rd digits, and I
use that for every card. So for card number 3228 9505 3563 0967 the PIN
would be 9032. When I get a new card I change the PIN to match the card
number. Then as long as can remember the *method* (not hard) I've got
the PIN for any card, no matter how rarely I use it.

[Guy Barry]

"Mike Barnes" wrote in message
news:UYYPIov8...@34klh41lk4h1lk34h3lk4h1k4.invalid...

>Would you like a reliable and secure way of having a different PIN for
>every card, that makes minimal demands on your memory? Here's what I do.
>I derive the PIN from the card number using a simple algorithm. For
>example, my algorithm might be the 4th, 6th, 1st, and 3rd digits, and I
>use that for every card. So for card number 3228 9505 3563 0967 the PIN
>would be 9032.

Nice idea, but shouldn't that be 8532?

--
Guy Barry

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I use A = 1, B = 2 … I = 9, O = 0. Then I think of phrases in which any
other letters are ignored, as well as any surplus letters after the
necessary set of numbers has been defined. So "Guy Barry lives in Bath"
would mean 7219.


--
athel

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Banks in the UK allow you to change the PIN, but banks in France don't,
so you're stuck with the PIN they give you.

However, it's a nifty idea.


--
athel

[Guy Barry]

"Athel Cornish-Bowden" wrote in message

news:amt5o7...@mid.individual.net...

>
>> How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers? There are things like the
>> Major mnemonic system, which assigns one or more letters to each digit,
>> but I don't know if that's widely used. I generally don't have trouble
>> remembering numbers, so it's never been an issue for me.
>
>I use A = 1, B = 2 … I = 9, O = 0. Then I think of phrases in which any
>other letters are ignored, as well as any surplus letters after the
>necessary set of numbers has been defined. So "Guy Barry lives in Bath"
>would mean 7219.

Interesting. Have you come across the Major system?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system

It assigns consonants to each digit, but on a phonetic basis, so that groups
of consonants that sound similar are assigned to the same digit (e.g. 0 is
"s", "z" and soft "c"). Then vowels can be added at will to create a word
or sequence of words.

--
Guy Barry

[John Varela]

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:21:23 UTC, "Guy Barry"
<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers?

If you get to choose your own number, one way is to use the last two
digits of each of two historic dates. So 1066 and 1588 would yield
6688. That example doesn't yield the most random-looking PIN, but at
least it's memorable.

--
John Varela

[Mike L]

And Athel's right: the old horsey terms are all very well and
enjoyable for horses, though even there "left" and "right" would work
fine, but we don't need them for cars.

--
Mike.

[R H Draney]

Guy Barry filted:

"When he killed the Mudjokivis,
Of the skin he made him mittens,
Made them with the fur side inside,
Made them with the skin side outside.
He, to get the warm side inside,
Put the inside skin side outside;
He, to get the cold side outside,
Put the warm side fur side inside.
That's why he put the fur side inside,
Why he put the skin side outside,
Why he turned them inside outside."
-- Anon, after Longfellow

[Guy Barry]

"John Varela" wrote in message
news:51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-z950qkuddI9k@localhost...

>
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:21:23 UTC, "Guy Barry"
><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers?
>
>If you get to choose your own number, one way is to use the last two
>digits of each of two historic dates.

If you get to choose your own number, you don't need a mnemonic. You simply
choose a number that's memorable in the first place. Mnemonics are devices
for memorizing things that are difficult to remember. In Athel's case, he
can't choose his own number.

Speaking for myself, I tend to find that once I've learned a PIN number my
fingers take over anyway. The main difficulty is re-training them not to
type the old number whenever the PIN changes.

--
Guy Barry

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2013-01-30 19:14:51 +0100, "Guy Barry" <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> said:

> "Athel Cornish-Bowden" wrote in message
> news:amt5o7...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers? There are things like
>>> the Major mnemonic system, which assigns one or more letters to each
>>> digit, but I don't know if that's widely used. I generally don't have
>>> trouble remembering numbers, so it's never been an issue for me.
>>
>> I use A = 1, B = 2 … I = 9, O = 0. Then I think of phrases in which any
>> other letters are ignored, as well as any surplus letters after the
>> necessary set of numbers has been defined. So "Guy Barry lives in Bath"
>> would mean 7219.
>
> Interesting. Have you come across the Major system?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system

I have now. It's a better system than mine, because it allows you to
put the vowels where you like. Mine only allows U and Y to be put
anywhere you like, and that's rather limiting. However, I wasn't
proposing for it to be used by everyone.

>
> It assigns consonants to each digit, but on a phonetic basis, so that
> groups of consonants that sound similar are assigned to the same digit
> (e.g. 0 is "s", "z" and soft "c"). Then vowels can be added at will to
> create a word or sequence of words.


--

athel

[Guy Barry]

"Athel Cornish-Bowden" wrote in message

news:amutmv...@mid.individual.net...

>
>On 2013-01-30 19:14:51 +0100, "Guy Barry" <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk>
>said:

>> Interesting. Have you come across the Major system?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system
>
>I have now. It's a better system than mine, because it allows you to put
>the vowels where you like. Mine only allows U and Y to be put anywhere you
>like, and that's rather limiting. However, I wasn't proposing for it to be
>used by everyone.

There are quite a few such systems in use. Yours seems to be a variant of
the dominic system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_dominic_system

Lewis Carroll also devised his own system, similar to the Major system in
that it only used consonants, but with the interesting feature that it
incorporated rhyme. There's a post about it here:

http://blog.mnemotechnics.org/lewis-carrolls-memory-techniques-1066.html

Personally I would find the effort of coming up with such mnemonics harder
than remembering the number itself, but that's just the way my memory works.

--
Guy Barry

[Tony Cooper]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:56:56 -0000, "Guy Barry"
<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"John Varela" wrote in message
>news:51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-z950qkuddI9k@localhost...
>>
>>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:21:23 UTC, "Guy Barry"
>><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers?
>>
>>If you get to choose your own number, one way is to use the last two
>>digits of each of two historic dates.
>
>If you get to choose your own number, you don't need a mnemonic. You simply
>choose a number that's memorable in the first place.

Isn't a mnemonic simply a means of making the number memorable? Your
comments seems rather circular.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

[Guy Barry]

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
news:tv5lg8h1gge4ful9m...@4ax.com...

>
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:56:56 -0000, "Guy Barry"
><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"John Varela" wrote in message
>>news:51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-z950qkuddI9k@localhost...

>>>If you get to choose your own number, one way is to use the last two
>>>digits of each of two historic dates.
>>
>>If you get to choose your own number, you don't need a mnemonic. You
>>simply
>>choose a number that's memorable in the first place.
>
>Isn't a mnemonic simply a means of making the number memorable? Your
>comments seems rather circular.

No, I don't think so. John Varela was suggesting picking a number that's
memorable in its own right.

Mnemonics are devices that aid the memory, like "Richard Of York Gave Battle
In Vain" for the colours of the rainbow. If you can already remember the
colours of the rainbow, the mnemonic is of no use to you.

--
Guy Barry

[John Varela]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:56:56 UTC, "Guy Barry"

<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> "John Varela" wrote in message
> news:51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-z950qkuddI9k@localhost...
> >
> >On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:21:23 UTC, "Guy Barry"
> ><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> How do you come up with mnemonics for numbers?
> >
> >If you get to choose your own number, one way is to use the last two
> >digits of each of two historic dates.
>
> If you get to choose your own number, you don't need a mnemonic. You simply
> choose a number that's memorable in the first place.

Like your birthday or anniversary?

> Mnemonics are devices
> for memorizing things that are difficult to remember.

Such as a four-digit number that isn't a birthday or anniversary.

> In Athel's case, he
> can't choose his own number.

So that calls for a different technique, doesn't it?

> Speaking for myself, I tend to find that once I've learned a PIN number my
> fingers take over anyway. The main difficulty is re-training them not to
> type the old number whenever the PIN changes.

--

John Varela

[John Varela]

Every electrical engineer and technician knows that "bad boys rape
our young girls but Violet gives willingly".

The value of a resistor is encoded with bands of color. Black=0,
Brown=1, red=2,...gray=8, and white=9. (It's actually more
complicated than that, but that's the base idea.)

--
John Varela

[Tony Cooper]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:42:38 -0000, "Guy Barry"

<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
>news:tv5lg8h1gge4ful9m...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:56:56 -0000, "Guy Barry"
>><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>"John Varela" wrote in message
>>>news:51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-z950qkuddI9k@localhost...
>
>>>>If you get to choose your own number, one way is to use the last two
>>>>digits of each of two historic dates.
>>>
>>>If you get to choose your own number, you don't need a mnemonic. You
>>>simply
>>>choose a number that's memorable in the first place.
>>
>>Isn't a mnemonic simply a means of making the number memorable? Your
>>comments seems rather circular.
>
>No, I don't think so. John Varela was suggesting picking a number that's
>memorable in its own right.
>
>Mnemonics are devices that aid the memory, like "Richard Of York Gave Battle
>In Vain" for the colours of the rainbow. If you can already remember the
>colours of the rainbow, the mnemonic is of no use to you.

The mnemonics in John's example are the events that happened on the
dates. The numbers 66 are remembered as being the last two digits of
the event that happened in whatever '66 he has in mind. It could be
the Battle of Hasting in 1066 or his marriage in 1966.

(Not that he was married in 1966, but he could have been. I'm sure
something significant happened in some other century with the last two
digits of his marriage year.)

[John Varela]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:06:18 UTC, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The mnemonics in John's example are the events that happened on the
> dates. The numbers 66 are remembered as being the last two digits of
> the event that happened in whatever '66 he has in mind. It could be
> the Battle of Hasting in 1066 or his marriage in 1966.

I did cite 1066. And all that.

> (Not that he was married in 1966, but he could have been. I'm sure
> something significant happened in some other century with the last two
> digits of his marriage year.)

Nothing else of any significance ever occured in any year ending in
59. At least, that I know of.

--
John Varela

[Tony Cooper]

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:37:26 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <keap4...@drn.newsguy.com>

> R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>As I understand it, labeling like that is the usual practice.

I've scrubbed in on many surgical procedures, and seen this done many
times when the surgery is on a limb. Some of the notations are funny
as hell.

[harolddo...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 at 12:19:27 PM UTC-5, Userme wrote:
> Hi
> Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)
>
> 1) At top right corner OR At right top corner
> 2) At bottom left corner OR At left bottom corner
>
> Thanks a lot indeed.

I have tried everything to set google as my default browser but nothing works. Can you help me?

[Ken Blake]

Google is not a browser (it's a search engine), therefore it can not be
made your default browser.


--
Ken

[Tony Cooper]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT), harolddo...@gmail.com
wrote:

It's a search engine, not a browser, but you can set Google as the
home page for your browser.

Argggh....just noticed that I'm responding to post made in 2013.

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 17:20:57 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT), harolddo...@gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, January 27, 2013 at 12:19:27 PM UTC-5, Userme wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)
>>>
>>> 1) At top right corner OR At right top corner
>>> 2) At bottom left corner OR At left bottom corner
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot indeed.
>>
>>I have tried everything to set google as my default browser but nothing works. Can you help me?
>
>It's a search engine, not a browser, but you can set Google as the
>home page for your browser.

Google Chrome is the web browser.

Download & install Google Chrome:

https://www.google.com/chrome/

After you install it, you ought to be able to make it your "default
browser".

[Ken Blake]

On 4/7/2020 2:30 PM, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 17:20:57 -0400, Tony Cooper
> <tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT), harolddo...@gmail.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, January 27, 2013 at 12:19:27 PM UTC-5, Userme wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> Which one is correct (I am getting so confused about this)
>>>>
>>>> 1) At top right corner OR At right top corner
>>>> 2) At bottom left corner OR At left bottom corner
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot indeed.
>>>
>>>I have tried everything to set google as my default browser but nothing works. Can you help me?
>>
>>It's a search engine, not a browser, but you can set Google as the
>>home page for your browser.
>
> Google Chrome is the web browser.

Google Chrome is *a* web browser. There are many others, and Google can
be the default search engine in any of them.

--
Ken

[Ken Blake]

Ugh. Thanks for pointing that out. I (obviously) missed it.


--
Ken

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 16:40:36 -0700, Ken Blake <k...@invalidemail.com>
wrote:

"Google Chrome" is *THE* web browser that Harold is trying to make his
default browser.

NYER.

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT), harolddo...@gmail.com
wrote:

You have Google Chrome downloaded? I have supplied the link.

1. Start menu

2. Default programs

3. Set your default programs

4. Choose "Chrome" on the left

5. Click "OK"

[Ken Blake]

Maybe. There's certainly a chance that you are right, but there's no way
you can be sure about that based on what he asked.



--
Ken

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 17:12:26 -0700, Ken Blake <k...@invalidemail.com>

Oh, admit it. He is trying to make "Google" his default browser.

What else could it be?

[Ken Blake]

Moreover, when he says "I have tried everything to set google as my
default browser but nothing works," it substantially reduces the chances
that you're right. If he were talking about Chrome, he would probably
not have had a problem setting it as the default.

One other point: in my experience, when someone is talking about Chrome,
he says "Chrome," not "Google." I've never heard someone say "Google"
when he meant "Chrome."


--
Ken

[Ken Blake]

What it could be and what I think it probably is is that he doesn't know
the difference between a browser and a search engine.


But unlike you, I'm not sure sure I'm right. Note that I said "probably."

But since this was a reply to a question that was asked in 2013, we'll
probably never find out what he meant.


--
Ken

[Mack A. Damia]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 17:42:02 -0700, Ken Blake <k...@invalidemail.com>

Harold wrote that TODAY, April 7.

[Lewis]

In message <hf4jjn...@mid.individual.net> Ken Blake <k...@invalidemail.com> wrote:
> One other point: in my experience, when someone is talking about Chrome,
> he says "Chrome," not "Google." I've never heard someone say "Google"
> when he meant "Chrome."

I've heard people say google when they meant the Internet.

"I got on google yesterday and saw you posted baby pictures."


--
I'm from a predominately black family --Eddie Murphy

[Spains Harden]

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 2:25:13 AM UTC+1, Lewis wrote:
> In message <hf4jjn...@mid.individual.net> Ken Blake <k...@invalidemail.com> wrote:
> > One other point: in my experience, when someone is talking about Chrome,
> > he says "Chrome," not "Google." I've never heard someone say "Google"
> > when he meant "Chrome."
>
> I've heard people say google when they meant the Internet.
>
> "I got on google yesterday and saw you posted baby pictures."

Well exactly. If people can't tell whether it is 2013 or 2020, it is a
bit rich to split hairs over nomenclature.

How about file sharing. Do you upload a file from somebody else's
computer? Download it? Both? Neither? Are you on the internet when
you file share?

[Peter Moylan]

On 08/04/20 16:45, Spains Harden wrote:
>
> How about file sharing. Do you upload a file from somebody else's
> computer? Download it? Both? Neither? Are you on the internet when
> you file share?

Simples. It depends on the location of the FTP server. A transfer from
server to client is a download. A transfer from client to server is an
upload. And if you don't know where the server is, or if you don't even
know what FTP is, then you are sufficiently clueless as to not to know
whether it is an upload or a download.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

[Lewis]

In message <r6kns7$pc9$1...@dont-email.me> Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> On 08/04/20 16:45, Spains Harden wrote:
>>
>> How about file sharing. Do you upload a file from somebody else's
>> computer? Download it? Both? Neither? Are you on the internet when
>> you file share?

> Simples. It depends on the location of the FTP server. A transfer from
> server to client is a download. A transfer from client to server is an
> upload. And if you don't know where the server is, or if you don't even
> know what FTP is, then you are sufficiently clueless as to not to know
> whether it is an upload or a download.

Since servers are not required and ftp is well and deservedly dead*
this is not a helpful definition.

The person/computer/node that has the file is uploading it to the person
who is receiving the file; the receiver is downloading.

*yes yes, some ancient servers linger on, and probably will until the
heat-death of the universe.

--
Oh look, good intentions!

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:42:19 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 08/04/20 16:45, Spains Harden wrote:
> >
> > How about file sharing. Do you upload a file from somebody else's
> > computer? Download it? Both? Neither? Are you on the internet when
> > you file share?
>
> Simples. It depends on the location of the FTP server. A transfer from
> server to client is a download. A transfer from client to server is an
> upload. And if you don't know where the server is, or if you don't even
> know what FTP is, then you are sufficiently clueless as to not to know
> whether it is an upload or a download.

Perhaps this is clueless, but if something comes from somewhere onto
my hard drive and my storage, I've downloaded it, and if I put something
out into the ether, I've uploaded it.

If I used a "The Cloud," things there I would also have uploaded.

[RH Draney]

What do you call it when I copy or move a file from one computer to
another elsewhere in the house across my wifi network?...r

[Jerry Friedman]

Crossloading?

--
Jerry Friedman

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

There are many FTP servers in ordinary peoples' homes. Very few of the
owners are aware of this.
Those servers are in Digital TV recorders and can be used for moving
recordings to and from the box using an FTP client on a computer.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

[Peter T. Daniels]

"Copy" or "Move" (as in W10).

Copy is the default onto another drive (Shift-Copy to Move), Move is the
default for going from one folder to another on the same drive. (Copy-
Paste is needed to copy to another folder on the same drive. Or you
could Copy to another drive and then Move to the new location.)