Donald Trump - quintessential American

anal...@hotmail.com

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:40:39 AM2/9/16

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The USA is the largest assembly of humans in history without a conscience.

This is not some "troll" ranting - its a scientific observation.

The quintessential representative of that is Donald Trump.

He tried to use eminent domain to get a woman to sell her house in Atlantic City for one of his projects. She refused to sell, went to court and won.

And Trump says - " I let it go and it turned out to be a good thing, because Atlantic City collapsed after that and I saved a lot of money by not going ahead with the project".

He says OPENLY that the USA should use stronger forms of torture than waterboarding and his yahoos roar with delight and the lapdog press questions him on that as if walking on eggs.

If Hindu-Americans don't wake up and star taking over, the world faces very dark days.

Richard Tobin

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Feb 9, 2016, 10:20:03 AM2/9/16

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In article <fdb08f7d-127f-4b94...@googlegroups.com>,

<anal...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The quintessential representative of that is Donald Trump.
>
>He tried to use eminent domain to get a woman to sell her house in
>Atlantic City for one of his projects. She refused to sell, went to
>court and won.

See also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Forbes_%28farmer%29

-- Richard

Janet

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Feb 9, 2016, 12:36:54 PM2/9/16

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In article <n9d00o$1fho$2...@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
says...

see also

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-bullied-a-90-year-old-
woman-over-scottish-golf-course-2015-6?r=US&IR=T

Janet

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Feb 9, 2016, 1:09:31 PM2/9/16

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I'm perplexed by Donald Trump's success so far in the presidential race.
Regardless of his policies he seems totally unfitted to be a politician.
Political leadership requires persuasion and compromise. He doesn't seem
too good at either.

Looking to the future:

President Elect Trump fails to attend the official Inauguration because
he objects to some aspect of it and holds his own ceremony elsewhere.

When he wants to do something that is outside Presidential powers and
Congress won't change the law to empower him, he will attempt to fire
all congresscritters who disagree with him.

Donald Trump, International Statesman -- a serious contradiction in
terms. I would not envisage him bringing peace to the world.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

David Kleinecke

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Feb 9, 2016, 1:30:55 PM2/9/16

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Dont despair. many USians would agree with you. I have yet to meet any
Californian Trump supporters (I have met one Cruz supporter).

Tony Cooper

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Feb 9, 2016, 2:09:32 PM2/9/16

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Living in Republican-dominated Florida, and having a circle of friends
who are old-fart conservatives, I know several supporters of Cruz.

I haven't met a Trump-For-President supporter, but I've met a lot of
people who not-so-grudgingly say he makes some good points.

I know many Rubio supporters, and I have to control myself around
them. I don't want to ruin long-standing friendships over political
discussions, but I can't understand the appeal.

I'm not in any of those three groups.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Sam Plusnet

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Feb 9, 2016, 2:59:52 PM2/9/16

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In article <10akbb9nahrvnucms...@4ax.com>,
ma...@peterduncanson.net says...

> I'm perplexed by Donald Trump's success so far in the presidential race.
> Regardless of his policies he seems totally unfitted to be a politician.
>
>

I imagine that a section of the electorate are disenchanted with all
main-stream politics and are looking for a John Wayne figure to ride to
the rescue.

Trump qualifies because he doesn't have a political background and he
does have the hair.

BCD

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Feb 9, 2016, 3:13:25 PM2/9/16

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On 2/9/2016 10:09 AM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>
> I'm perplexed by Donald Trump's success so far in the presidential race.
> Regardless of his policies he seems totally unfitted to be a politician.
> Political leadership requires persuasion and compromise. He doesn't seem
> too good at either.

> [...snippage...]

***O'er the years, I've noticed that we Americans will sometimes get
into a mood for what can best be called a "protest vote," and will
consequently vote for whatever best seems to poke traditional
politics/politicians in the eye, though the candidate or the proposed
law be unlikely or whimsical. Does "Proposition 13" mean anything to
non-Californians? Many would say that the passage of Prop 13 qualified
as this sort of protest vote (others would strongly maintain that it was
and is the best thing that ever happened to the state). Again in
free-spirited California: The election of Mr. Schwarzenegger as governor
could be regarded as partaking of this spirit (and, again, others ...);
and, glancing outside of California, one thinks of Jesse Ventura.
Surely there are many more such examples. I can see Mr. Trump being
elected should this sort of spirit of protest sweep the nation.
"Desperate times," the voters will say, "call for desperate measures."
The wise politician will never let the electorate deem the times to be
desperate!

Best Wishes,

--BCD

Peter T. Daniels

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Feb 9, 2016, 3:38:30 PM2/9/16

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On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:09:31 PM UTC-5, PeterWD wrote:

> I'm perplexed by Donald Trump's success so far in the presidential race.
> Regardless of his policies he seems totally unfitted to be a politician.

He's not a politician, he's a celebrity (with lousy taste in architecture).
He's been a TV star for many years.

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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Feb 9, 2016, 4:15:49 PM2/9/16

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In the newsgroup alt.usage.english, in article
<fdb08f7d-127f-4b94...@googlegroups.com>,
anal...@hotmail.com posted:
>
> Donald Trump - quintessential American

*About the use of "eminent domain":

Oops!... Bush Family Used Eminent Domain to Build Texas
Baseball Park

thegatewaypundit.com, February 7, 2016

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/oops-bush-family-used-eminent-domain-to-build-ball-park/

*About waterboarding:

Trump: ISIS Is Chopping Off Heads And We Worry About Waterboarding

realclearpolitics.com, November 23, 2015

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/23/trump_isis_is_chopping_off_heads_and_we_worry_about_waterboarding.html

Donald Trump stands by waterboarding debate answer

cnn.com, February 7, 2016

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/07/politics/donald-trump-tapper-waterboarding-new-hampshire/

*About "If Hindu-Americans don't wake up and star taking
over, the world faces very dark days.":

Excellent comment.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://bit.do/jaimaharaj

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Feb 10, 2016, 1:06:52 PM2/10/16

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One does not have to be a hindutva to deplore these matters.

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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Feb 10, 2016, 2:37:02 PM2/10/16

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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> - Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti

Donald Trump on N.H. victory, North Korea threat

CBS This Morning
YouTube
Wednesday, February 10, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNG-KxSm7js

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj

anal...@hotmail.com

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Feb 10, 2016, 6:34:01 PM2/10/16

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But my Hindu background has enabled me to see what no American, Chomsky included has seen or is equipped to see - average Americans have an appetite for committing mayhem against distant foreign countries - turning Goebbels on his head, who said

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

The USA has the potential for violence (and has actually carried out that level of violence) that exceeds that of Nazi Germany - BECAUSE THE WAR-LOVING PEOPLE need very little goading from their war-loving leaders.

To this day, the Viet Nam war is not regarded as bestial and immoral - a lot of Americans only regret that more violence was not used to "win" ("librul" Jimmy Carter "The destruction was mutual. We went to Vietnam without any desire to capture territory or impose American will on other people. I don't feel that we ought to apologize or castigate ourselves or to assume the status of culpability. ").

The leftist pap from Chomsky that average Americans are OK but are misled by their leaders is wrong. Its all of one piece. And the love of war (fought by others or by machines on their behalf - ( Americans have a healthy respect for enemies that shoot back and few of the warmongers of military age actually want to serve ) ) skews the way you expect - blacks love it less than whites, Southerners love it more than the rest of the country and so forth.

As somebody put it -

'America's psychopathic strategy of "devouring the world, one country at a time."
'

is here and present and is being acted upon (and will continue to be acted upon even if "librul" Bernie Sanders get selected).

The USA needs to be changed radically - otherwise they are going to provoke something with Russia and end it all for them and for the rest of the world.

Trump, the cunt Hillary, Obama, Bernie - they are all isomorphic when it comes to the defining essence of the USA - mindless violence.

David Kleinecke

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Feb 10, 2016, 6:52:02 PM2/10/16

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On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:34:01 PM UTC-8, anal...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 1:06:52 PM UTC-5, David Kleinecke wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-8, anal...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 7:40:39 AM UTC-5, anal...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > The USA is the largest assembly of humans in history without a conscience.
> > > >
> > > > This is not some "troll" ranting - its a scientific observation.
> > > >
> > > > The quintessential representative of that is Donald Trump.
> > > >
> > > > He tried to use eminent domain to get a woman to sell her house in Atlantic City for one of his projects. She refused to sell, went to court and won.
> > > >
> > > > And Trump says - " I let it go and it turned out to be a good thing, because Atlantic City collapsed after that and I saved a lot of money by not going ahead with the project".
> > > >
> > > > He says OPENLY that the USA should use stronger forms of torture than waterboarding and his yahoos roar with delight and the lapdog press questions him on that as if walking on eggs.
> > > >
> > > > If Hindu-Americans don't wake up and star taking over, the world faces very dark days.
> > >
> > >
> > > (1) The USA has been immune to large-scale attack for around two centuries (war of 1812 was the last time).
> > >
> > > (2) The US has almost never been not involved in a war in all its existence - one can count 140 or so wars - even if we give it a free pass for its internal genocides.
> > >
> > > (3) Countless millions have been killed in their own land by the US in wars of choice - using the war-machine from hell that leaves ecological damage for decades.
> > >
> > > (4) the "best", highly paid minds are perpetually at work making killer machines with gargantuan military budges that increase every year.
> > >
> > > (5) There are military bases everywhere - a huge Navy with single ships that can carry enough firepower to basically render a country like Russia non-functional in hours. These ships are always out there - nobody knows what weapons they are carrying at any time.
> > >
> > > (6) Given these glaring, undeniable facts - Trump tells cheering, whooping infantile Americans that we need torture to protect us - and not a peep is heard from any sane mind.
> > >
> > > "Why do they hate us?"
> > >
> > > "It is for our freedoms of course, dummy."
> >
> > One does not have to be a hindutva to deplore these matters.
>
> But my Hindu background has enabled me to see what no American, Chomsky included has seen or is equipped to see - average Americans have an appetite for committing mayhem against distant foreign countries

Well - "average Americans" are very hard to find. Assuming by "average"
you mean "most" I think you are wrong. Most people in the US have no
interest whatsoever - hostile or friendly or ... in distant foreign
countries and very few of them want to commit mayhem.

In the case of Da'ish they don't view it as a distant country they view
Da'ish (incorrectly, of course) as a horde of terrorists running amuck
through the streets. They know that because the Fox Network told them.

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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Feb 10, 2016, 8:19:46 PM2/10/16

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In article
<6735d040-91db-4322...@googlegroups.com>,
David Kleinecke <dklei...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> [...]
> In the case of Da'ish they [most Americans] don't view it

> as a distant country they view Da'ish (incorrectly, of
> course) as a horde of terrorists running amuck through
> the streets. They know that because the Fox Network told
> them.

"Fox Network told them"? Obama himself intends to destroy
those Islamic, Muslim terrorists:

Say no to fear: US president vows to destroy Da'ish

By Agencies
The Express Tribune, Pakistan
November 23, 2015

Kuala Lumpur: US President Barack Obama on Sunday said
they will 'destroy' Da'ish (Islamic State group) as he
insisted panicked citizens must not succumb to fear
wrought by a 'handful of killers', rather they had to
address the broader issues that exist in a tiny fraction
of the Muslim community.

"Destroying [Islamic State] is not only a realistic goal,
we're going to get it done," he said at a news conference
in Kuala Lumpur after a meeting of Asian leaders in
Malaysia.

Continues at:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/996559/say-no-to-fear-us-president-vows-to-destroy-daish/

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://tinyurl.com/JaiMaharaj

Robert Bannister

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Feb 11, 2016, 6:14:33 PM2/11/16

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On 11/02/2016 7:33 am, anal...@hotmail.com wrote:

> The USA needs to be changed radically - otherwise they are going to
> provoke something with Russia and end it all for them and for the
> rest of the world.

While I agree with a lot of what you have said, Russia, or more
particularly, Russia under Putin, needs no provocation. How many
thousands of Syrians have they murdered already to keep their hold on a
Mediterranean port?
--
Robert B.

anal...@hotmail.com

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All countries do evil things, but the USA is unique in that its evil stems both from the elite and the lumpenbourgeoisie. Except in the AngloZionist sphere of influence - Russia is viewed as a paragon.

I saw this somewhere:

"I read of a blogger doing a survey asking americans on the street, "should we nuke Russia", 80% of them said yes. He did the same in Russia asking if they should nuke america, 90% said, NO. Just goes to show that there's a lot of special kind of stupid people in america"

The survey of Americans whether a nuclear attack should be launched on Russia is on youtube.

Nothing of value has come out of the USA in all its existence, except perhaps automatic transmission.

anal...@hotmail.com

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On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 7:40:39 AM UTC-5, anal...@hotmail.com wrote:

.
>
> If Hindu-Americans don't wake up and star taking over, the world faces very dark days.

Maybe it will start with this:

http://www.bustle.com/articles/141712-who-is-sri-srinivasan-antonin-scalias-possible-replacement-is-a-renowned-judge