CSM is the daddy - En Ami is the proof
Daniel Perez
subtext of dialogue and action in "En Ami". Throughout the entire
episode, while CSM was psychologically manipulating Scully for getting
the disk containing the cancer cure, he obviously had fatherhood on his
mind.
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Exhibit A
CSM cures the little boy of cancer, leaves a Goochland, Virginia paper
on Scullys doorstep, distracts Mulder from the case with the fake
e-mails and manipulates Scully into seeing the little boy who was cured
of cancer the exact same way she was; with a chip in the back of the
neck. Why? For the purpose of awakening deep feelings of motherhood
within Scully.
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Exhibit B.
In the office building, CSM tells Scully that she's a "woman of
compassion" and says the following;
"In the end, a man finally looks at the sum of his life, to see what
he'll leave behind. Most of what I've worked to build is in ruins.
And now that the darkness descends, I find I have no real legacy"
What does Smoking Man mean by "no real legacy"? That he has no one to
carry out his wishes for the project to continue. CSM shot his son
Jeffery Spender in "One Son" and we learned that Mulder is also CSM's
son in "Amor Fati", but there's no way that Mulder would carry on CSM's
work. Therfore CSM was longing for another chance to continue, even
beyond death, and that would mean another son.
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Exhibit C
In the following exchange between CSM and Scully after CSM throws out
his cigarettes while riding the Sedan, we see more evidence;
CSM: No sacrifice is truly altruistic. We give, expecting to recieve.
Scully: What exactly is it you expect to recieve?
CSM: Your trust. You question my sincerity. You think I'm heartless.
Would it soften your opinion of me if I confessed that I've always had
particular affection for you?
A sharp glance by Scully at CSM.
CSM: I assure you my intentions are honorable. I have affection for
Mulder too. My affection for you is special. I held your life in my
hands. Your cancer was terminal and I had the cure. Can you imagine
what that's like? To have the power to extinguish a life in order to
save it and let it flourish? Now to give you that power, so you can do
the same.
Throughout this entire exchange of manipulating Scullys trust he
confessed that he had a "particular" and "special" affection for her.
"Particular" is defined as "distinctinve, special, fastidious", meaning
that CSM was paying very close attention to Scully's life, possibly
stalking her through is information channels. He also threw in the
line "I have affection for Mulder too" in order to keep her from
panicking and leaving. CSM also said his intentions are "honorable".
Everything known about CSM tells us he is never to be trusted and that
he doesn't know the meaning of the word "honorable".
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Exhibit D
The next day, the exchange in the Sedan between CSM and Scully
continues;
CSM: You've been at the wheel too long. Would you like me to drive?
Scully: I might, if you let me know where we're going
CSM: Knowing that, would you feel comfortable? You'd trust me? How
long did it take Mulder to win your trust?
Scully: I've always trusted Mulder.
CSM: You're not being honest with yourself. Think back. There was a
time when you feared for your future, for your career, when you were
first parterned with this man. I've told you, I've studied you for
years. And if you would permit me, I'd like to make an observation.
You're drawn to powerful men, but you fear their power. You keep your
guard up, a wall around your heart. How else you explain a fearless
devotion to a man obsessed, and yet, a life alone. You'd die for
Mulder, but you won't allow yourself to love him.
Scully: Wow. I'm learning a whole other side to you. You're not just
a cold blooded killer, you're pop psychologist as well.
CSM: I've been a destroyer all my life. Before I die, I'd like to
prove I'm capable of something more.
Obviously CSM was stalking Scully when he said; "I've told you, I've
studied you for years". CSM's observation that "Scully is drawn to
powerful men, but fears their power" and that "she keeps her guard up,
a wall around her heart" was CSM's wish for a relationship between him
and Scully. All of CSM's other women are now dead or missing;
Cassandra Spender, Teena Mulder and Diana Fowley. Therefore he
pursued Scully as a last chance to continue his legacy, not with a
cancer cure given to Scully, but with a son(or daughter).
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Exhibit E
When CSM and Scully visit the 118 year old Margarie Butters he refers
to Scully in his introduction as "my very good friend".
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Exhibit F
When CSM and Scully finally arrive at the house in Milford,
Pennsylvania, Scully is asleep in the passenger seat. CSM puts on a
pair of gloves, possibly to remove traces of fingerprints. CSM looks at
the sleeping Scully and gently moves the bangs of hair out of her face
with with his fingers; he looks as if he wants to kiss her.
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Exhibit G
Scully wakes up in bed, shocked to find herself in a pair of pajamas
and her clothes hanging in a closet. CSM has had a past history of
taking Scully to a far away place and removing her clothes. We saw it
in Fight the Future when Scully was taken to Antartica, stripped naked
and packed into a cocoon to become an alien digestive. Scully begins
to panic at the possibility that something happened.
The next scene shows CSM offering Scully a cup of morning coffee as she
storms toward the door to leave.
CSM: How do you take your coffee.
Scully: Unadulterated, thank you.
Scully takes the coffee from CSM and dumps it out the window.
Scully: You drugged me!
CSM: I did nothing of the sort.
Scully: How did the hell did I get out of my clothes and into bed?
CSM: I carried you. You've been up for over 30 hours. You were
delerious. I only wanted to make you comfortable.
Scully: Where are we?
CSM: Milford, Pennsylvania
Scully: Well that wasn't part of the deal. I don't know what you're up
to.
We know from the previous exibits leading up to the "Scully waking up
in pajamas scene" that CSM obviously impregnated Scully. Assuming that
CSM was too ill from his disease to "perform", it's very possible that
CSM had Scully impregnated by invitro fertilization with CSM's seed and
one of Scully's missing eggs. When Scully is offered the coffee, she
says "Unadulterated, thank you". "Adulterated" is defined as "adding
undesirable ingredients to". By saying "unadulterated" Scully is
saying she wants her coffee "undefiled" or "uncontaminated" unlike what
she assumes happened to her during the night. The next exhibit backs
up the impregnation scenario.
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Exhibit H
While at dinner, CSM explains the cancer cure science to Scully and the
expected contact. In the course of that converstation he tell's Scully
that he's a "lonely man", becomes emotional and leaves the room.
CSM: That which makes miracles, can also make great evil There are
those who would use this power for their own purposes. To choose who
will live and who will die. Theoretically, I can be cured. Everything
I've told you but wanting to make right. I'm a lonely man, Dana.
CSM becomes emotional, gets up from the table.
CSM: Excuse me.
It's very possible that CSM had some deep feelings of guilt for having
Scully impregnated bubble up inside of him, a man who has manipulated
everything to his advantage, even his past relationships with Cassandra
Spender, Teena Mulder and Diana Fowley. A obvious sign of an
emotional split personality, with a dominant personality that's evil
and destroys everything while having a second and lesser personality of
longing and wanting to be normal and loved like everyone else. The two
contrasting personalies twist the very soul of CSM into a pretzel.
It was mentioned in another Usenet post that "En Ami" was a Monster of
the Week Episode with CSM as the "monster". In a way, that
description is right if you look at this episode from the point of view
of the story about Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, split personalities within
one man constantly at war with each other. The episode was described
by William B. Davis as being inspired by Shakespeare's Richard III.
Looking into the CSM/Scully impregnation scenario reveals that "En Ami"
is a combination of Richard III with Jekyll & Hyde.
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Exhibit I
When CSM is outside the restaraunt, he talks to his henchman about
Cobra, the contact with the cancer cure.
CSM: Cobra hasn't shown.
Henchman: What do you want to do?
CSM: Wait. What else can we do?
Henchman: What trust you won, Scully won't stick around forever.
CSM looks away with a troubled look.
Henchman: What's wrong?
CSM: Just do your damn job.
Obviously when the Henchman brought up the subjects of "trust" and
"Scully" in the same sentence, it troubled CSM deeply. When the
Henchman asked what was wrong, CSM told him to "do his damn job" to
hide his feelings of guilt for impregnating Scully.
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Exhibit J
When Scully is sent to meet Cobra, Cobra is assassinated by CSM's
henchman after Scully gets the disk. Scully almost meets a similar
fate, but is saved when CSM kills the henchman. He was protecting his
"legacy" that's now inside of Scully.
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Exhibit K
When Mulder and Scully check out the now abandoned office building
their dialogue gives us more clues when they enter CSM's empty office.
Scully: He was here! These were his offices! What the hell is this?
Mulder: He used you.
Scully: Mulder, he laid it all out for me. I recorded it. I mailed
you the tape. This old woman Margarie Butters. I met her, I saw her
pictures, her birth certificate....
Mulder: You saw what you needed to see in order to make you believe.
Scully: What about this boy? This boy with cancer? You can't deny
that. That's undeniable proof.
Mulder: Even if we could convince his parents to let us march him out,
how long before that chip in his neck mysteriously dissappears. This
was a perfectly executed con, Scully. The only thing I can't figure
out is why you're still alive.
Bingo, Mulder hit it on the head with out realizing it by saying "The
only thing I can't figure out is why you're still alive". Because
Scully is carrying CSM's baby. It gets more interesting.
Scully: Mulder, I looked into his eyes. I swear what he told me was
true.
Mulder: He did it all for himself, to get the science on that disk.
His sincerity was a mask, Scully. The man's motives never changed.
Scully: You think he used me to save himself, at the expense of the
human race.
Mulder: He knows what that science is worth, how powerful it is. He'd
let nothing stand in his way.
Scully: You may be right. But for a moment I saw something else in
him. A longing for something more than power, maybe for something he
could never have.
After Scully's last piece of dialogue, CSM throws the disk with the
cancer cure into a lake and lights up a Morley, knowing that he has
doomed himself to die in a few months. The lines spoken by Scully, "I
swear what he told me was true", "you think he used me to save himself"
and "I saw something else in him, a longing for something more than
power. Maybe for something he never had" were subconscious clues of
Scullys impregnation by CSM without Scully ever being aware of it.
Conclusion?
The only reason Scully smiled at the end of "Requiem" when she said
"she's pregnant" is that she assumes the baby is Mulders. "Requiem" is
defined as "service for the dead". CSM was murdered by Krycek.
"Service for the dead" symbolizes CSM's impregnation of Scully. We
now know that the dead CSM is the father and will be reborn like a
phoenix through Scully.
Yours truly
Daniel Perez
Konrad Douglas Frye
>The proof that CSM is the father of Scully's baby is encoded within the
>subtext of dialogue and action in "En Ami". Throughout the entire
>episode, while CSM was psychologically manipulating Scully for getting
>the disk containing the cancer cure, he obviously had fatherhood on his
>mind.
The CSM was dying.
All the viagra in the world wasn't going to help him. <g>
Besides, he doesn't posess the kind of DNA necessary to create the
super!child. His delusions of becoming super-human in 'Amor Fati' fizzled
out and I believe he recognized that by the time 'En Ami' rolled around. I
just don't see him raping Scully given the way William B. Davis wrote
their interaction in the episode.
I do think he restored Scully's fertility however. I've stated suggested
an explanation for that several times now. CSM is no fool - he knows that
Mulder and Scully's genetic offspring would be of immense genetic value
(as well as being a valuable bargaining chip). He likely had plans to make
off with the kid had he not taken that unfortunate tumble down the stairs.
Besides, we got this pregnancy story line because David is going to be
away until February. Imho, there was little point in introducing the story
line if they're not going to reveal that Mulder is the father. 1013 has to
make sure that Mulder is on everyone's minds while he's away and they've
done it in fairly spectacular fashion.
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Konrad Frye (k f r y e @ e s c a p e . c a)
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SEB FISHER
Excellent work, I can't really fault any of these observations, and I guess it
makes CSM the best bet right now, certainly from my point of view (even though
no one else has really put forward any credible argument to suggest another
father).
Seb
Daniel J. Craven
> In the following exchange between CSM and Scully after CSM throws out
> his cigarettes while riding the Sedan, we see more evidence;
>
> CSM: No sacrifice is truly altruistic. We give, expecting to recieve.
>
> Scully: What exactly is it you expect to recieve?
>
> CSM: Your trust. You question my sincerity. You think I'm heartless.
> Would it soften your opinion of me if I confessed that I've always had
> particular affection for you?
>
> A sharp glance by Scully at CSM.
>
> CSM: I assure you my intentions are honorable. I have affection for
> Mulder too. My affection for you is special. I held your life in my
> hands. Your cancer was terminal and I had the cure. Can you imagine
> what that's like? To have the power to extinguish a life in order to
> save it and let it flourish? Now to give you that power, so you can do
> the same.
>
> Throughout this entire exchange of manipulating Scullys trust he
> confessed that he had a "particular" and "special" affection for her.
> "Particular" is defined as "distinctinve, special, fastidious", meaning
> that CSM was paying very close attention to Scully's life, possibly
> stalking her through is information channels. He also threw in the
> line "I have affection for Mulder too" in order to keep her from
> panicking and leaving. CSM also said his intentions are "honorable".
> Everything known about CSM tells us he is never to be trusted and that
> he doesn't know the meaning of the word "honorable".
I've heard a lot of people say that he quickly said he has affection for
Mulder to keep Scully from knowing what he meant, but I don't see it that
way at all. WBD didn't play it that way, and he wrote it, so he ought to
know what he intended. Besides that, we've seen that it is true that he
does have affection for Mulder. It wasn't a lie. The lie was the fact that
he couldn't tell Scully why he actually chose her because she would've known
that he was using her to get to the info because he had been breaking into
her e-mail for however long and impersonating her through said e-mail.
I don't really want to spend time on the rest of the stuff because there is
too much for me and my laziness to write about, but let's just say that I
disagree with the rest of your "proof" as well. It is all circumstantial at
best, unrelated more commonly. You did obviously put some thought into
this, though, and I commend you for that. Most people never put thought
into anything : )
We'll just have to agree to disagree...
Daniel J. Craven
No credible arguments for another father? What do you want? They are
obviously implying it is Mulder's baby. Scully would be horrified if it was
anything else. She could be sleeping with somebody else, which is
plausible, but still less likely than even CSM-as-father, because of the
timing. They introduced this thread in order for people to be more aware of
Mulder even during his absence. This is to keep his spirit in everybody's
minds and to give more fuel to Scully's determination to find him.
She says she has to find Mulder. After that she tells Skinner why, by
saying that she's pregnant. People have questioned why she told her boss
that, and the only reason would be if it was Mulder's, because they were so
upset about it and saying the would find him.
TaffyKulp
this...
Mulder is CSM's son, so giving Scully back some of her immature eggs, and
prodding her into a relationship with Mulder, "You can't let yourself love
him," serves his purpose as well. A grandchild.
Even if it was his child, who is to say that this child would follow in his
footsteps.
Also, if Scully had been pregnant for that long, she would have known. She
would have had symptoms sooner.
Instead I surmise that he returned eggs to her overies. One egg matures each
month, giving her many months to concieve Mulder's baby.
Maureen Goldman
> We know from the previous exibits leading up to the "Scully waking up
> in pajamas scene" that CSM obviously impregnated Scully. Assuming that
> CSM was too ill from his disease to "perform", it's very possible that
> CSM had Scully impregnated by invitro fertilization with CSM's seed and
> one of Scully's missing eggs
Doesn't in vitro take lengthy preparation for the woman receiving the
implant? I thought that there were hormones involved so that the womb
will be receptive - not something that can be done on the spur of the
moment, at any rate. (Not knowledgeable about this sort of thing.)
SEB FISHER
.>No credible arguments for another father? What do you want? They are
>obviously implying it is Mulder's baby. Scully would be horrified if it was
>anything else. She could be sleeping with somebody else, which is
>plausible, but still less likely than even CSM-as-father, because of the
>timing. They introduced this thread in order for people to be more aware of
>Mulder even during his absence. This is to keep his spirit in everybody's
>minds and to give more fuel to Scully's determination to find him.
>
>She says she has to find Mulder. After that she tells Skinner why, by
>saying that she's pregnant. People have questioned why she told her boss
>that, and the only reason would be if it was Mulder's, because they were so
>upset about it and saying the would find him.
>
>
this morning on why they must have slept together, and that I too think the
ending scene indicates at least that she thinks it is Mulders.
I just thought that the original posting was a pretty good effort, even if it
wasn't water tight in everybody's eyes, but then show me something that is on
this subject. I just meant that most of us are speculating about our feeling
that it is Mulders, where as this post trys pretty effectively to go beyond
that with evidence.
And when I said I couldn't fault his points, I meant that each example he gave
from the narrative/script did seem to support the associated statement. Thats
all.
Hope this clarifys my position on the matter.
Seb
Hurt by the assumption he is anti the Mulder child scinerio
Kim
<re CSM impregnating Scully via IVF>
>Doesn't in vitro take lengthy preparation for the woman receiving the
>implant? I thought that there were hormones involved so that the womb
>will be receptive - not something that can be done on the spur of the
>moment, at any rate. (Not knowledgeable about this sort of thing.)
Correct.
This is done via hormone injections.
*~*~*~*~*~*
Kim
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Mihoneybee
yes, but CSM could have advanced technology...ya know, he has connections with
the ALIENS:)
<<This is done via hormone injections.>>
*~*Jenny*~*
"there's a girl on the car in the parking lot, she says 'hey man come on and
take shot, can't you see my walls are crumbling!'"-adam duritz
"if my eyes blind, who'll see the best in me?" jakob dylan
LMControl
What a loser....
LMControl
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ImRastro
> The lie was the fact that
>he couldn't tell Scully why he actually chose her because she would've known
>that he was using her to get to the info because he had been breaking into
>her e-mail for however long and impersonating her through said e-mail.
And that's exactly what I never bought about the episode. He never needed
Skully for any of it. I always thought there had to be anouther reason. This
one make sence
Daniel Perez
<taff...@aol.com> wrote:
> I'm not convinced, and I don't have time to go point by point, but consider
> this...
>
> Mulder is CSM's son, so giving Scully back some of her immature eggs, and
> prodding her into a relationship with Mulder, "You can't let yourself love
> him," serves his purpose as well. A grandchild.
>
> Even if it was his child, who is to say that this child would follow in his
> footsteps.
The child could follow in CSM's footsteps if the baby is a clone of CSM
created from CSM's DNA and one of Scully's eggs. I tend to believe
that Jefferey Spender was also a clone of the CSM as the result of the
technology of the alien/human hybrid/cloning program. This is why CSM
didn't have much trouble putting a bullet through Jeffery's brain.
CSM's first attempt at reproducing himself by having an affair with
Teena Mulder which resulted in the birth of Fox Mulder. Ma Mulders DNA
won that battle with Mulder exposing the conspiracy and ruining CSM's
and the Syndicates plans.
CSM's second attempt was cloning himself with his DNA and one of
Cassandra Spender's eggs to create Jefferey Spender. Jefferey
eventually turned on CSM by siding with Mulder as the result of the
experiments on Cassandra.
CSM's third attempt may succeed because CSM isn't around to be exposed
because he let Krycek kill him to fulfill his last conspiracy, to
reproduce himself via Scully. It's also possible that CSM's last wish
with his other co-horts and conspirators is to pass on all of his power
to his offspring and condition his child from the beginning to accept
the responsiblity of CSM's power, without the burden of CSM's sins
being exposed by somebody because he will already be dead and forgotten
by Mulder and Scully.
It's possible that we may see a future scene set about thirty years
from now showing Scully's child lighting up a Morley and inhaling from
a cancer stick, just like the CSM.
Yours truly,
Daniel Perez
Daniel Perez
Goldman <inksl...@FOGsunshine.net> wrote:
> > Daniel Perez <t3armaged...@usa.net> wrote:
> > We know from the previous exibits leading up to the "Scully waking up
> > in pajamas scene" that CSM obviously impregnated Scully. Assuming that
> > CSM was too ill from his disease to "perform", it's very possible that
> > CSM had Scully impregnated by invitro fertilization with CSM's seed and
> > one of Scully's missing eggs
>
> Doesn't in vitro take lengthy preparation for the woman receiving the
> implant? I thought that there were hormones involved so that the womb
> will be receptive - not something that can be done on the spur of the
> moment, at any rate. (Not knowledgeable about this sort of thing.)
Perhaps that's another explanation of why CSM was in Scully's apartment
in "Closure". CSM could have slipped those hormones into Scullys food
in the refrigerator before she came home and found him sitting in the
chair.
Yours truly,
Daniel Perez
Konrad Douglas Frye
>The child could follow in CSM's footsteps if the baby is a clone of CSM
>created from CSM's DNA and one of Scully's eggs.
Do people still believe in this kind of crude genetic determinism?
>I tend to believe that Jefferey Spender was also a clone of the CSM as
>the result of the technology of the alien/human hybrid/cloning program.
>This is why CSM didn't have much trouble putting a bullet through
>Jeffery's brain.
The CSM is a cold blooded killer. He put a bullet in Jeffy's head because
little Jeffy ticked him off.
<snipped a lot of crazy talk>
Don't take this the wrong way but I think you're nuts. <g>
Konrad Douglas Frye
>Perhaps that's another explanation of why CSM was in Scully's apartment
>in "Closure". CSM could have slipped those hormones into Scullys food
>in the refrigerator before she came home and found him sitting in the
>chair.
IVF is a little more complex than that I'm afraid.
Emily Titon
day of 5/25/00 6:31 AM, Tara Charnow, who maybe can be reached at
ta...@erols.com is alleged to have written:
>> The CSM is a cold blooded killer. He put a bullet in Jeffy's head because
>> little Jeffy ticked him off.
I hope not - I liked Jeffy ;)
The innocent one...
Erasure's song "Ship of Fools" reminds me of him...
> No evidence. No body seen.
He could've just fired a "You're on thin ice" warning shot...
Love,
<E>
--
"If you expose the man, expose his crimes, then you destroy the destroyer's
ability to destroy" -- Alex Krycek, The X-Files, "Tunguska"
Bast Black
I have never doubted for a moment Scully is carrying a baby created
by CSM. What were are seeing here is the X-File retelling of
Rosemary's Baby. Scully *thinks* it's Mulder's because she has a
good reason to think it's his. Hint: they's been getting it on. But she
can't explain it, nor does she want to look a gift horse in the mouth.
I bet she will refuse to have a paternity test. It's *her* baby. Damn it.
She will soon learn her well is dry, and Baby X is not a miracle from
God. Her choice is simple: It's this baby, or not baby at all.
Scully will carry it because she is it's mother, and she believes
her baby will not be evil. Even if it is CSM's, Mulder is Spawn of CSM,
and he's not evil, is he?
Here's what I think is what most likely happened in En Ami:
CSM at some point slipped Scully a "Ruthie" had her artificially
inseminated with "something" while she was drugged.
Maybe it really is his baby, or maybe it's hybrid. I'm voting it's
a genetically engineered Super Human that, thanks to mom,
it going to immune to the Black Oil. (Scully is valuable to CSM that way)
I'm also beginning to suspect that Mulder himself is the by-product
of CSM's covert breeding program to produce the Super Human.
Did CSM not say, "I created Mulder."
HOLYMOTHERFUCKINGSHIT! He was being literal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally, we have figured out what CSM's secret agenda has been
all these years. The reason Mulder is so important to the Project,
and thus must be "protected" and was allowed to investigate X-Files
instead even if he was a major thorn in foot, is because he was
expected to be the Super Human.
In Amor Fati, CSM almost wet his pants when Mulder finally
started to deliver as the Super Human. But Mulder's body couldn't
handle the Super Charged brainwaves of a Super Human. CSM, being
the greedy arrogant bastard that he is, thought he's better than
Mulder and he could be the Super Human instead.
Boy was he wrong. *snort*
Telepathy did not happen for CSM at all. In fact, the only thing
Mulder's grey-matter did for CSM is give him a death sentence.
Old Smokey's body was woefully unable to handle the Super
Human DNA, and thus he began to deteriorate rapidly.
So what is an evil Cigarette Smoking Asshole to do?
Try one last time to create his beloved Super Human.
Perhaps Baby X is really a combination of Mulder's DNA,
and Gibson's DNA, taken during both of their brain surgeries.
Of course, CSM would have thrown a bit of himself in the mix in
because he's a vain bastard that way. ;p
Baby X may not have any Scully in it, but I think CSM would
take advantage of her immunity to the Black Oil. I mean,
why else would he chose her to be the mother of his "Jesus?"
bB,
I smell "Dune."
Dtanyol
>>> The CSM is a cold blooded killer. He put a bullet in Jeffy's head because
>>> little Jeffy ticked him off.
>
>
>He could've just fired a "You're on thin ice" warning shot...
Hey! Maybe JEFFY is Scully's backdoor man!
Jadzia
> I have never doubted for a moment Scully is carrying a baby created
> by CSM. What were are seeing here is the X-File retelling of
> Rosemary's Baby. Scully *thinks* it's Mulder's because she has a
> good reason to think it's his. Hint: they's been getting it on. But she
> can't explain it, nor does she want to look a gift horse in the mouth.
> I bet she will refuse to have a paternity test. It's *her* baby. Damn it.
well nice thought but, I heard WBD said in an interview he was shocked that
some people on the net think he is the father of Scully's kid. He doesn't
believe it and neither do I. I do think maybe he gave her back the ability
to have a child, I do think Mulder is the father. En Ami happened in March,
and Scully would have known something was up before then. I too have had a
child and I can tell you you know when you have a bun in the oven.
hot toddy
>I heard WBD said in an interview he was shocked that
>some people on the net think he is the father of Scully's
>kid. He doesn't believe it and neither do I.
Actually, that's not what he said at all. If you
want to read said interview for yourself, go to:
http://www.canoe.com/TelevisionXFiles/may24_cancerman.html
If you don't want to take the time to read it all,
here's the part you're referring to:
"The Canadian is also amused by the speculation
swirling around the announcement that Dana Scully
(Gillian Anderson) is with child, or perhaps alien. "
"'I was so shocked to find out she was pregnant
that I don't have a theory, but some people on the
'Net think I'm responsible.'"
Todd
just trying to get the facts straight
Spooky's Toy
Hey, it's a free country, man. If the facts don't want to be straight, I
say don't force them. Let them love who they're going to love, okay?
Spooky's Toy
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CoC cog SWILS BSS
Sick!Otter <psy<cho<path
"We open doors with the X-Files, which lead to other doors." (Requiem)
"He offered me three wishes. For the first, I asked for a stout-hearted
mule. For the second, a magic sack that was always full of turnips. Did
I mention this was fifteenth century France?" (Je Souhaite)
Maureen Goldman
> well nice thought but, I heard WBD said in an interview he was shocked that
> some people on the net think he is the father of Scully's kid.
Of course William B. Davis doesn't think he's the father of Scully's
child. It's CSM who might be.
(I can't help thinking that he has been surprised on other occasions
with the directions the stories have taken.)
Ash XF
half brother (CSM) or Half niece/nephew (Jeffy)
---Ashley
Muriel Gray
Ash XF wrote in message <20000526002132...@ng-bd1.aol.com>...
anyone can be a candidate for paternity.
MJG
Bast Black
>well nice thought but,...
Thanks! :)
>...I heard WBD said in an interview he was shocked that
>some people on the net think he is the father of Scully's kid. He doesn't
>believe it and neither do I. I do think maybe he gave her back the ability
>to have a child, I do think Mulder is the father. En Ami happened in
>March, and Scully would have known something was up before then. I
>too have had a child and I can tell you you know when you have a bun in
>the oven.
Well nice thought but, <g> in EW, CC said he didn't tell anyone about the
Baby X plot, and it was not revealed to anyone (even the cast and crew)
until the last day of shooting.
Obviously, he was attempted to foil the SpoilerWhores.
So you can forget that theory about WBD not knowing about the baby
plot twist as being any indicator that it is Mulder's child instead.
bB
dmunz
> The proof that CSM is the father of Scully's baby is encoded within the
> subtext of dialogue and action in "En Ami". Throughout the entire
> episode, while CSM was psychologically manipulating Scully for getting
> the disk containing the cancer cure, he obviously had fatherhood on his
> mind.
>
> Exhibit A
> CSM cures the little boy of cancer, leaves a Goochland, Virginia paper
> on Scullys doorstep, distracts Mulder from the case with the fake
> e-mails and manipulates Scully into seeing the little boy who was cured
> of cancer the exact same way she was; with a chip in the back of the
> neck. Why? For the purpose of awakening deep feelings of motherhood
> within Scully.
>
> --------------
> Exhibit B.
> In the office building, CSM tells Scully that she's a "woman of
> compassion" and says the following;
>
> "In the end, a man finally looks at the sum of his life, to see what
> he'll leave behind. Most of what I've worked to build is in ruins.
> And now that the darkness descends, I find I have no real legacy"
>
> What does Smoking Man mean by "no real legacy"? That he has no one to
> carry out his wishes for the project to continue. CSM shot his son
> Jeffery Spender in "One Son" and we learned that Mulder is also CSM's
> son in "Amor Fati", but there's no way that Mulder would carry on CSM's
> work. Therfore CSM was longing for another chance to continue, even
> beyond death, and that would mean another son.
>
> --------------
> In the following exchange between CSM and Scully after CSM throws out
> his cigarettes while riding the Sedan, we see more evidence;
>
> CSM: No sacrifice is truly altruistic. We give, expecting to recieve.
>
> Scully: What exactly is it you expect to recieve?
>
> CSM: Your trust. You question my sincerity. You think I'm heartless.
> Would it soften your opinion of me if I confessed that I've always had
> particular affection for you?
>
> A sharp glance by Scully at CSM.
>
> CSM: I assure you my intentions are honorable. I have affection for
> Mulder too. My affection for you is special. I held your life in my
> hands. Your cancer was terminal and I had the cure. Can you imagine
> what that's like? To have the power to extinguish a life in order to
> save it and let it flourish? Now to give you that power, so you can do
> the same.
>
> Throughout this entire exchange of manipulating Scullys trust he
> confessed that he had a "particular" and "special" affection for her.
> "Particular" is defined as "distinctinve, special, fastidious", meaning
> that CSM was paying very close attention to Scully's life, possibly
> stalking her through is information channels. He also threw in the
> line "I have affection for Mulder too" in order to keep her from
> panicking and leaving. CSM also said his intentions are "honorable".
> Everything known about CSM tells us he is never to be trusted and that
> he doesn't know the meaning of the word "honorable".
>
> Exhibit D
> The next day, the exchange in the Sedan between CSM and Scully
> continues;
>
> CSM: You've been at the wheel too long. Would you like me to drive?
>
> Scully: I might, if you let me know where we're going
>
> CSM: Knowing that, would you feel comfortable? You'd trust me? How
> long did it take Mulder to win your trust?
>
> Scully: I've always trusted Mulder.
>
> CSM: You're not being honest with yourself. Think back. There was a
> time when you feared for your future, for your career, when you were
> first parterned with this man. I've told you, I've studied you for
> years. And if you would permit me, I'd like to make an observation.
> You're drawn to powerful men, but you fear their power. You keep your
> guard up, a wall around your heart. How else you explain a fearless
> devotion to a man obsessed, and yet, a life alone. You'd die for
> Mulder, but you won't allow yourself to love him.
>
> Scully: Wow. I'm learning a whole other side to you. You're not just
> a cold blooded killer, you're pop psychologist as well.
>
> CSM: I've been a destroyer all my life. Before I die, I'd like to
> prove I'm capable of something more.
>
> Obviously CSM was stalking Scully when he said; "I've told you, I've
> studied you for years". CSM's observation that "Scully is drawn to
> powerful men, but fears their power" and that "she keeps her guard up,
> a wall around her heart" was CSM's wish for a relationship between him
> and Scully. All of CSM's other women are now dead or missing;
> Cassandra Spender, Teena Mulder and Diana Fowley. Therefore he
> pursued Scully as a last chance to continue his legacy, not with a
> cancer cure given to Scully, but with a son(or daughter).
>
> --------------
> Exhibit E
> When CSM and Scully visit the 118 year old Margarie Butters he refers
> to Scully in his introduction as "my very good friend".
>
> --------------
> Exhibit F
> When CSM and Scully finally arrive at the house in Milford,
> Pennsylvania, Scully is asleep in the passenger seat. CSM puts on a
> pair of gloves, possibly to remove traces of fingerprints. CSM looks at
> the sleeping Scully and gently moves the bangs of hair out of her face
> with with his fingers; he looks as if he wants to kiss her.
>
> --------------
> Exhibit G
> Scully wakes up in bed, shocked to find herself in a pair of pajamas
> and her clothes hanging in a closet. CSM has had a past history of
> taking Scully to a far away place and removing her clothes. We saw it
> in Fight the Future when Scully was taken to Antartica, stripped naked
> and packed into a cocoon to become an alien digestive. Scully begins
> to panic at the possibility that something happened.
>
> The next scene shows CSM offering Scully a cup of morning coffee as she
> storms toward the door to leave.
>
> CSM: How do you take your coffee.
>
> Scully: Unadulterated, thank you.
>
> Scully takes the coffee from CSM and dumps it out the window.
>
> Scully: You drugged me!
>
> CSM: I did nothing of the sort.
>
> Scully: How did the hell did I get out of my clothes and into bed?
>
> CSM: I carried you. You've been up for over 30 hours. You were
> delerious. I only wanted to make you comfortable.
>
> Scully: Where are we?
>
> CSM: Milford, Pennsylvania
>
> Scully: Well that wasn't part of the deal. I don't know what you're up
> to.
> We know from the previous exibits leading up to the "Scully waking up
> in pajamas scene" that CSM obviously impregnated Scully. Assuming that
> CSM was too ill from his disease to "perform", it's very possible that
> one of Scully's missing eggs. When Scully is offered the coffee, she
> says "Unadulterated, thank you". "Adulterated" is defined as "adding
> undesirable ingredients to". By saying "unadulterated" Scully is
> saying she wants her coffee "undefiled" or "uncontaminated" unlike what
> she assumes happened to her during the night. The next exhibit backs
> up the impregnation scenario.
>
> --------------
> Exhibit H
> While at dinner, CSM explains the cancer cure science to Scully and the
> expected contact. In the course of that converstation he tell's Scully
> that he's a "lonely man", becomes emotional and leaves the room.
>
> CSM: That which makes miracles, can also make great evil There are
> those who would use this power for their own purposes. To choose who
> will live and who will die. Theoretically, I can be cured. Everything
> I've told you but wanting to make right. I'm a lonely man, Dana.
>
> CSM becomes emotional, gets up from the table.
>
> CSM: Excuse me.
>
> It's very possible that CSM had some deep feelings of guilt for having
> Scully impregnated bubble up inside of him, a man who has manipulated
> everything to his advantage, even his past relationships with Cassandra
> Spender, Teena Mulder and Diana Fowley. A obvious sign of an
> emotional split personality, with a dominant personality that's evil
> and destroys everything while having a second and lesser personality of
> longing and wanting to be normal and loved like everyone else. The two
> contrasting personalies twist the very soul of CSM into a pretzel.
>
> It was mentioned in another Usenet post that "En Ami" was a Monster of
> the Week Episode with CSM as the "monster". In a way, that
> description is right if you look at this episode from the point of view
> of the story about Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, split personalities within
> one man constantly at war with each other. The episode was described
> by William B. Davis as being inspired by Shakespeare's Richard III.
> Looking into the CSM/Scully impregnation scenario reveals that "En Ami"
> is a combination of Richard III with Jekyll & Hyde.
>
> -------------
> Exhibit I
> When CSM is outside the restaraunt, he talks to his henchman about
> Cobra, the contact with the cancer cure.
>
> CSM: Cobra hasn't shown.
>
> Henchman: What do you want to do?
>
> CSM: Wait. What else can we do?
>
> Henchman: What trust you won, Scully won't stick around forever.
>
> CSM looks away with a troubled look.
>
> Henchman: What's wrong?
>
> CSM: Just do your damn job.
>
> Obviously when the Henchman brought up the subjects of "trust" and
> "Scully" in the same sentence, it troubled CSM deeply. When the
> Henchman asked what was wrong, CSM told him to "do his damn job" to
> hide his feelings of guilt for impregnating Scully.
>
> -------------
> Exhibit J
> When Scully is sent to meet Cobra, Cobra is assassinated by CSM's
> henchman after Scully gets the disk. Scully almost meets a similar
> fate, but is saved when CSM kills the henchman. He was protecting his
> "legacy" that's now inside of Scully.
>
> --------------
> Exhibit K
> When Mulder and Scully check out the now abandoned office building
> their dialogue gives us more clues when they enter CSM's empty office.
>
> Scully: He was here! These were his offices! What the hell is this?
>
> Mulder: He used you.
>
> Scully: Mulder, he laid it all out for me. I recorded it. I mailed
> you the tape. This old woman Margarie Butters. I met her, I saw her
> pictures, her birth certificate....
>
> Mulder: You saw what you needed to see in order to make you believe.
>
> Scully: What about this boy? This boy with cancer? You can't deny
> that. That's undeniable proof.
>
> Mulder: Even if we could convince his parents to let us march him out,
> how long before that chip in his neck mysteriously dissappears. This
> was a perfectly executed con, Scully. The only thing I can't figure
> out is why you're still alive.
>
> Bingo, Mulder hit it on the head with out realizing it by saying "The
> only thing I can't figure out is why you're still alive". Because
> Scully is carrying CSM's baby. It gets more interesting.
>
> Scully: Mulder, I looked into his eyes. I swear what he told me was
> true.
>
> Mulder: He did it all for himself, to get the science on that disk.
> His sincerity was a mask, Scully. The man's motives never changed.
>
> Scully: You think he used me to save himself, at the expense of the
> human race.
>
> Mulder: He knows what that science is worth, how powerful it is. He'd
> let nothing stand in his way.
>
> Scully: You may be right. But for a moment I saw something else in
> him. A longing for something more than power, maybe for something he
> could never have.
>
> After Scully's last piece of dialogue, CSM throws the disk with the
> cancer cure into a lake and lights up a Morley, knowing that he has
> doomed himself to die in a few months. The lines spoken by Scully, "I
> swear what he told me was true", "you think he used me to save himself"
> and "I saw something else in him, a longing for something more than
> power. Maybe for something he never had" were subconscious clues of
> Scullys impregnation by CSM without Scully ever being aware of it.
>
> Conclusion?
>
> The only reason Scully smiled at the end of "Requiem" when she said
> "she's pregnant" is that she assumes the baby is Mulders. "Requiem" is
> defined as "service for the dead". CSM was murdered by Krycek.
> "Service for the dead" symbolizes CSM's impregnation of Scully. We
> now know that the dead CSM is the father and will be reborn like a
> phoenix through Scully.
>
> Yours truly
>
>
> Daniel Perez
Well done. Almost 18 years later and we now know.
FWIW
DLM
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