On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:32:18 -0800 (PST), zeppo <
rgi...@telus.net> wrote:
>On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 1:07:19 PM UTC-8, Brian Smith wrote:
> Also think back to last TC with the
>> "We" talk. F7 and Jeremy says he's part of 4 or 5 "Wees" and the others are
>> all part of varying numbers of "Wees." If that isn't a first I'd love to be
>> reminded when it's happened before.
>>
>That was a load of rubbish. When there are only seven players left in the game,
>how can Jeremy be part of 4 or 5 different potential "voting blocks"? I don't
>know why he said that, but I bet Probst was sure glad that he did. In reality, the
>vote was very simple: three players who had been together since the beginning,
>along with one guy who was playing the numbers, booted the easiest target
>available. It was "Survivor End Game 101"
If someone is considering all the different combinations of final fives, final
fours, and final threes, and all the potential offers of "you and me and him
to the end," then yes, I think it's possible to have four or five "we's." How
many are being considered seriously and how much weight they are given
is another matter. I agree that the obvious choice -- Jeremy sticking with
his core alliance -- was the best one.
>> Wasn't Ciera's point that some people weren't playing for themselves early
>> enough in the game? That if you wait too long to make a move it will be too
>> late to take out the big threats?
>
>What Ciera really meant was: "I'm on the minority alliance, and have been saying a lot
>of stupid things around camp. Therefore, the only way that I'm going to survive is if
>the rest of you start booting your own alliance partners instead of me and my partners"
Yep. It's the classic outsider argument: "some of you insiders are on the
bottom, and you can use me to overthrow the hierarchy."
>I've got to give her credit for trying, but she was done as soon as she broke ranks
>with Andrew, and pulled enough votes together to boot Woo instead of Spencer.
It might look that way in retrospect, and she certainly had a tough row to hoe,
but one never knows... win an immunity necklace, a couple of idol blindsides at
the right times, Joe flips out of the Bayon cloud and brings Keith with him...
and suddenly Ciera is in the majority alliance. As the saying goes, "stuff
happens."
>IMO, she is not a "classic" goat because most of the strong players, with the exception
>of Kelley, viewed her as being too unpredictable and volatile to work with. As I've said
>before, Abi has shown herself to be very loyal to those who she trusts, but that's not
>how she was seen by several of the others.
The key phrase here is "those who she trusts." The problem with Abi is that it
takes very little to trigger her suspicion and distrust. As an alliance partner
she's "high maintenance," always needing reassurance.