Don Knotts RIP
Michael O'Connor
Michael O'Connor
Justin Pate
"Michael O'Connor" <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Correction. He was 81.
>
Strange. I had another one of those "Visualize the person before they die"
things today. For some reason as I was driving home I was thinking of Mr.
Furley on Three's Company drinking a shot then showing pain on his face and
afterward saying "Smooth!"
Michael O'Connor
Why can't you have one of those deja vu moments about OJ Simpson, or
Michael Jackson, or the people who ran Enron into the ground, or even
the guy who invented telemarketing?
Darren McGavin (always a favorite of mine) died today also, but his
passing will likely slip thru the cracks due to the passing of Don
Knotts getting all the media coverage. Did you have a premonition
about him too?
Moe Berg
Very sorry to hear about both of them. Maybe the recent popularity of
"A Christmas Story" as the successor to "It's a Wonderful Life" as the
Christmas movie that gets run into the ground every year will get
Darren McGavin some notice. Then again, maybe not. I just heard them
mention Don Knotts on CNN and there was no mention of Darren. Maybe
they haven't forgiven him for "Kolchak the Night Stalker," although as
far as I'm concerned, there's nothing to forgive.
Trevor Stenson
Yes, very sad about the passing of the two of them. I mostly remember
Knotts for the Andy Griffith show (in repeats) and various Disney or
Disney-type live action movies from when I was a kid. I have to admit
to loving the Apple Dumpling Gang when I was 9.
I'm am not that familiar The Night Stalker (which was supposed to be
great), but I know of Darren McGavin from numerous roles as a character
actor. I don't remember River Boat (as opposed to liver boat). I do
especially remember him being in some X-files episodes, and of course as
the Father in a Christmas Story. I see the story on the news on abc
news online, so I think it won't get lost with the Don Knotts passing.
I had a look at their credits on IMDB and McGavin has a much credit
longer list even if perhaps more are in supporting roles.
When I first read Darren McGavin, I thought in my head of Gavin Mcleod,
and couldn't help but morbidly think "I guess his luck ran out". Let's
hope it doesn't for years.
TS
mt
"Moe Berg" <moebe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Night stalker was classic Tv, but you are right he will most likely get
passed over in the news, too bad. ill miss them both
Paul Morris
> great), but I know of Darren McGavin from numerous roles as a character
> actor. I don't remember River Boat (as opposed to liver boat). I do
> especially remember him being in some X-files episodes, and of course as
> the Father in a Christmas Story. I see the story on the news on abc
> news online, so I think it won't get lost with the Don Knotts passing.
>
The Night Stalker was pretty good - I always liked how he was so exasperated
all the time. Did that way better than Jack Klugman, or Joe even!. It's
still on TV here once in a while. He was in The X-Files as Chris Carter said
Night Stalker was the inspiration for the X-Files. All sane people know that
this is just a smoke screen to but off the scent: the real inspiration was
The Invaders.
PM
Trevor Stenson
"Paul Morris" <sect...@btinternet.com> wrote:
He was in The X-Files as Chris Carter said
> Night Stalker was the inspiration for the X-Files. All sane people know that
> this is just a smoke screen to but off the scent: the real inspiration was
> The Invaders.
>
> PM
I thought the invaders was the inspiration for the Apple Dumpling Gang?
TS
Moe Berg
> Darren McGavin (always a favorite of mine) died today also, but his
> passing will likely slip thru the cracks due to the passing of Don
> Knotts getting all the media coverage. Did you have a premonition
> about him too?
Looks like you were right about poor Darren. Our major metropolitan
newspaper had almost a full page about Don Knotts, which he deserved,
but not a single sentence about Darren McGavin. However, the paper did
mention that another favorite of mine, Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar from
Babylon 5), died about four days ago. Maybe Darren will be mentioned
next week.
Paul Morris
"Moe Berg" <moebe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It can vary. Certainly The Guardian over here can takes days, or even weeks.
Though they are indeed a law unto themselves - may be a bad example.
PM
teem
on another positive note newspaper wis,Both were featured on the 2nd
page of my Akron Beacon Journal,Dons' was more of a story.It reall
pissed me off when Tommy Bondpassed last year you know,Butch from
theOUr GANG films.When Porky passed,there was more coverage,but not
very much.
Dr. Mabuse
catchphrases have entered our vocabulary, similar to SCTV.
"Do you know where he heard that word?"...(sotto voce over the phone:
"Well, from his father!") "No! He heard it from YOUR SON!" "WHAT??
WHAT?? WHAAAAAAAT????"
And my husband's favourite: "HO! HO! HO!!! And what's your name,
little boy?"
Wanda
George Hiebert
"Trevor Stenson" <kit...@shaw.ca> wrote
> When I first read Darren McGavin, I thought in my head of Gavin Mcleod,
> and couldn't help but morbidly think "I guess his luck ran out". Let's
> hope it doesn't for years.
LOL, had the very same reaction, Gavin McLeod popped in my head when I heard
the news.
Trevor Stenson
> >
>
> It can vary. Certainly The Guardian over here can takes days, or even weeks.
> Though they are indeed a law unto themselves - may be a bad example.
>
> PM
CNN.com recently had both obits listed side by side, so maybe as I'd
hoped he won't be forgotten on this day.
TS
Bill Tuthill
>>
>> Darren McGavin (always a favorite of mine) died today also, but his
>> passing will likely slip thru the cracks due to the passing of Don
>> Knotts getting all the media coverage. Did you have a premonition
>> about him too?
>
> Very sorry to hear about both of them. Maybe the recent popularity of
> "A Christmas Story" as the successor to "It's a Wonderful Life" as the
> Christmas movie that gets run into the ground every year will get
> Darren McGavin some notice. Then again, maybe not.
It's a classic movie, more so for lines like "just a crummy commercial"
and "fuuuuudge" than for the BB gun schtick.
What surprised me is that the director of "Christmas Story", Bob Clark,
also directed "Porkys" and "Porkys II".
That would be like the director of "Y Tu Mama Tambien" also directing
a Harry Potter movie!
Paul Morris
"Trevor Stenson" <kit...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Thinking on it: those newspaper organs who have forgotten may well face a
headless motorcyclist with more than just a "chopper".
PM
Trevor Stenson
> > "A Christmas Story" as the successor to "It's a Wonderful Life" as the
> > Christmas movie that gets run into the ground every year
....
> That would be like the director of "Y Tu Mama Tambien" also directing
> a Harry Potter movie!
I really like a Christmas story, my sister got me into watching it a
decade or more ago. It was a Christmas tradition for her family to rent
the movie every year.
It is my recollection that it was not immediately as popular as it is
now. Now TBS shows it all Christmas Day long. I even bought a VHS copy
for my mom a few years back as it is set in the time she would have been
growing up more or less (I knew she'd enjoy the Red Rider and Little
Orphan Annie references).
Still, I wouldn't put in the classic category with movies like "It's a
Wonderful Life", the Allistar Simms' "A Christmas Carol" or even "A
Charlie Brown Christmas" or the original "Grinch".
Plus there are certain gun-toting racist undertones in the movie that I
find troublesome.
There - that should offend the group and I'm serious about that one, but
I don't have time or space to defend that comment right now.
_Trev
Justin Pate
Trevor Stenson wrote:
> Plus there are certain gun-toting racist undertones in the movie that I
> find troublesome.
>
Bill Tuthill
>
> Plus there are certain gun-toting racist undertones in the movie that I
> find troublesome.
Are you referring to the fight scene with Scott Farkas ("he had yellow
eyes, I tell you, yellow eyes!") or to the ending scene where the movie
makes fun of the Chinese L / R pronunciation?
Trevor Stenson
Hi,
No I don't find the Chinese pronunciation thing offensive. First
generation Chinese immigrants do that. I read something where a few
japanese-people were offended at the L/R thing and the tall/short thing
in the elevator in "Lost in Translation". I believe they wanted to
boycott or picket or something, but it was so ridiculous that it never
caught on. The most offensive thing about L.I.T. was that Scarlet
Johanson's character was a whiney young rich girl with no real problems
and a lifetime of...we'll that is another subject. Billy Murray's
character and acting where brilliant btw.
My problem with "A Christmas Story" is outlined in my Masters Thesis:
"A Christmas Story: The dominance of the KKK in Indiana Politics during
the Great Depression and their rule by threat of armed violence".
It is not as riveting as my PhD thesis:
"Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer: Consumerism in Western Culture and It's
relationship to Social Darwinism and Eugenics".
Cheers,
;)
Trev
Bill Tuthill
I did, a little. It's probably the weakest scene in the movie.
> Johanson's character was a whiney young rich girl with no real problems
> and a lifetime of...well that is another subject. [LIT] Billy Murray's
> character and acting where brilliant btw.
Agreed. He was great in Groundhog Day also.
> My problem with "A Christmas Story" is outlined in my Masters Thesis:
> "A Christmas Story: The dominance of the KKK in Indiana Politics during
> the Great Depression and their rule by threat of armed violence".
"I hate Illinois Nazis!" --John Belushi in The Blues Brothers
The movie was filmed in Toronto, which enhanced its KKK undertones,
and provided some good snow scenes.
> It is not as riveting as my PhD thesis:
> "Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer: Consumerism in Western Culture and It's
> relationship to Social Darwinism and Eugenics".
I'm glad you Canadians have revamped the distinction between its and it's,
which in 'Merican never made sense to me.
Trevor Stenson
Do you find it offensive because it is the weakest link in the movie or
because of the Chinese L/R pronunciation?
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Hey, I'm not going to argue the Toronto thing, I'm from Edmonton, AB. I
do hear, however, that there snow is kind of soot-filled. The soot
accounted for the yellow eyes of Scott Farkus (after the onset of
jaundice), and was collected for use in the Dad vs. Furnace scenes.
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A Christmas Story story:
Someone I knew from when I lived in Cincinnati was visiting AZ on
vacation. She went to a party at which Ralphie (Scott Billingsley) was
heard to say: "This party is soooo Phoenix".
Hey Pal, you were the kid from "A Christmas Story" not Robert Redford -
if your not having fun, there is a Ho-Jo's down the road.
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Enough with the Grammar! Can someone recommend me a stand-along
newsreader for the Mac, other than MT-newswatcher, that has a
grammar/spell checker?
Although, I doubt it will correct all my typos and grammar errors as I
usually shoot these things off in the morning before I've had my two
morning cups of coffee. Plus I can just be plain lazy at those things.
Cheers,
Trev
Bill Tuthill
>
> Do you find [Chinese restaurant] offensive because it is the weakest link
> in the movie or because of the Chinese L/R pronunciation?
It seems slighly racist, and very hackneyed, kind of like marijuana jokes
after watching the 9th Cheech & Chong movie. The beheading of the duck too.
However it is great that a Chinese restaurant was open on Christmas day!
> Hey, I'm not going to argue the Toronto thing, I'm from Edmonton, AB.
> I do hear, however, that there snow is kind of soot-filled. The soot
> accounted for the yellow eyes of Scott Farkus (after the onset of
> jaundice), and was collected for use in the Dad vs. Furnace scenes.
Trevor, if you are this funny *before* your morning coffee, my stomach
muscles couldn't stand reading your posts *after* your two cups.
Scott Farkus the actor (Zack Ward) appears as Gilbert Blythe's friend
in the Canadian TV film "Ann of Green Gables", my daughter discovered.
He is billed as Scut Farkus on IMDB. Despite his soot-induced yellow
eyes, his career has really taken off!
Justin Pate
Bill Tuthill wrote:
> Trevor Stenson <kit...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Do you find [Chinese restaurant] offensive because it is the weakest link
> > in the movie or because of the Chinese L/R pronunciation?
>
> It seems slighly racist, and very hackneyed, kind of like marijuana jokes
> after watching the 9th Cheech & Chong movie. The beheading of the duck too.
If that bothers you, I hope you are a vegetarian.
Trevor Stenson
>
> Scott Farkus the actor (Zack Ward) appears as Gilbert Blythe's friend
> in the Canadian TV film "Ann of Green Gables", my daughter discovered.
> He is billed as Scut Farkus on IMDB. Despite his soot-induced yellow
> eyes, his career has really taken off!
Hi,
That Scott Farkus/Green Gables connection is very interesting. I'll
have to look for him the next time my wife makes me watch that show. I
can't picture him off-hand.
I do know that in the sequel mini-series, Anne of Avonlea, there are a
couple future "Kids in the Hall" with minor rolls. Dave Foley & Bruce
McCulloch I believe. Anyway, it is impossible to take them seriously
having watched KITH.
As an aside, Anne of Green Gables is HUGE in Japan, which goes back to
an affection in Japan for the original children's book(s).
Of course over there they call it "Anne of Gleen Gables".
Ok, you're right that is hackneyed. It is also just plain wrong.
I'll will now eat a bug.
Apologetically,
TS