This NEW MASH movie by Altman
Mark O'Neill
Kellerman(who, strangely, is starting to look like Loretta Swit and
visa/versa). Here I write to all the MASH stars and producers about a
plausible reunion for the show(like I'm going to actually convince
them) and now the original cast from the movie may do one. This is
poetic injustice. I still think Gelbart and Reynolds could outdo
Altman.
I don't know about the rest of you, but except for the
cinematography, I hated the movie. None of it was funny, and any
attempts at humor were mean-spirited.
I do wonder this, however....will Gary Burghoff return as Radar?
It would be strange, knowing he went on to exist in the series after
the movie.
Larry Coressel
movie.
I don't see the humor as mean-spirited, or at least no more than some
thing in the early days of the series. I see it as more
anti-establishment and anti-war. War itself is mean-spirited.
But having said that, I think a new M*A*S*H film would be just stupid.
The movie is strong on it's own. The original movie says more in 2
hours than the show said in 10 1/2 years, and doesn't really need a
sequel.
I wouldn't be a bit suprised if this is just an odd rumor.
LC
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: I wouldn't be a bit suprised if this is just an odd rumor.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's genuine talk. I *would* be surprised if
it were to be a sequel featuring original castmembers rather than a
remake. They got Mel Gibson to remake MAVERICK. They recast THE BRADY
BUNCH and got two or three movies out of it. But they got Matthau and
Lemmon into THE ODD COUPLE II and that sank without a trace.
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more people likely wanted to see Matthau/Lemmon in GOM 3 than that.
Also, while some MASH fans are divided on books vs. film vs. TV, I think
fans of TOC have a unifying force in Klugman and Randall. By the time
TOC 2 came out, IIRC, Jack and Tony already had done a reunion movie,
whatever its merits, and had in the 70's and 80's actually been on the
road with TOC, Simon's original play. In the public mind, TOC is K&R
rather than M&L. And after all, that's more than fair. M&L had so many
great films together, and TOC 1 is merely their first. Perception in the
mass entertainment media is reality. When the 1982 New OC series came
on, I had no problem with Ron Glass as Felix. But trying to watch Demond
Wilson play often-irresponsible Oscar was tough, with him having played
the reverse-parent so often on Sanford & Son.
As to a MASH sequel, it would have to be strong or even brilliant on its
own merits. No verbal trashing of the TV show--that's what this group is
for. :) Altman better not rely one wit on nostalgia, because while his
is a great film, it is a great film without sentiment behind its
admiration, at least IMHO. People like it, and rightly so. But no one
discusses what theater they were in when they first saw it. Despite the
series unevenness and flaws, people who were there remember the five W's
and H of GFA, Goodbye Radar, all the way through to Abysinnia, Henry.
Perhaps he should merely reassemble the cast, but make a different film
altogether. After all, what is the rental gap between Last Picture Show
and Texasville?
As a once-great comedian said before his overt politicization, that's
only my opinion--I could be wrong.
Larry Coressel
> I *would* be surprised if it were to be a sequel featuring original castmembers rather than a remake.
I think a remake would be even more ridiculous. As we've mentioned
before, the TV series was already a "remake" of sorts. It seems to me
that if they really are looking to do a sequel to Altman's MASH, it
would be to spite the TV series.
I'd rather see someone do a new film or series of films of Joseph
Heller's CATCH-22 if they really want to do another anti-war dramady.
LC
halpiemeister
> I wouldn't be surprised if there's genuine talk. I *would* be surprised if
> it were to be a sequel featuring original castmembers rather than a
> remake. They got Mel Gibson to remake MAVERICK. They recast THE BRADY
> BUNCH and got two or three movies out of it. But they got Matthau and
> Lemmon into THE ODD COUPLE II and that sank without a trace.
When I hear that Altman may being doing a sequel to the MASH movie,
what springs to mind is that scene in his movie The Player when Buck
Henry is pitching the idea of a sequel to The Graduate. It's just a
laughable concept. Perhaps that is what he intends, to make a satire
of ridiculous Hollywood sequels.
Ironywaves
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As a fan of the M*A*S*H film and novel before the television series
appeared, I'd love to see this... I don't know how it would turn out, but
it'd be a hoot to see Gould and Sutherland back together!
Will
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Larry Coressel
> As a fan of the M*A*S*H film and novel before the television series
> appeared, I'd love to see this... I don't know how it would turn out, but
> it'd be a hoot to see Gould and Sutherland back together!
> Will
I'm also a fan of the novel and the film, and can't imagine how this
could possibly work. If you want to see Gould and Sutherland back
together again, check out the movie S*P*Y*S. There's probably a
reason Altman did NOT want to direct that one!
LC
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: "halpiemeister" <alh...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
:> When I hear that Altman may being doing a sequel to the MASH movie,
:> what springs to mind is that scene in his movie The Player when Buck
:> Henry is pitching the idea of a sequel to The Graduate. It's just a
:> laughable concept. Perhaps that is what he intends, to make a satire
:> of ridiculous Hollywood sequels.
:
: As a fan of the M*A*S*H film and novel before the television series
: appeared, I'd love to see this... I don't know how it would turn out, but
: it'd be a hoot to see Gould and Sutherland back together!
If Altman is indeed making a sequel to M*A*S*H with the intent of
satirizing how stupid movie sequels are (which sounds exactly like Altman
to me), then while it'll prolly be a gas it won't be something you want to
revere as a sequel to M*A*S*H.
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LoL. I remember S*P*Y*S!
The vision I was having of a M*A*S*H remake a few weeks ago, when I scored a
new copy of the novel, *was* a remake, with actors of an appropriate age,
and for once, based more faithfully of the original text, much as Ring
Lardner originally envisioned it.
It's been twenty years since any new M*A*S*H has been produced, and I'm
thinking the time is right. This would *not* be an Altman picture, but a
restatement, with new actors... who do you think would be right for the
roles of Trapper, Hot Lips, et al, out of today's actors?
Will
Ironywaves
True. I much prefer the thought of a brand new version, going right back to
the novel, taken "seriously", which shouldn't be directed by Altman, *or*
the creators of the television version, who took M*A*S*H off into their
unique visions... the right director and cast could bring M*A*S*H to the
next generation... and the television spin off could probably last a dozen
years or so..!
The *wrong* director would give a *wink and a nod* version, and blow it.
Similarly, it would be almost certain Altman would use the film to make a
statement on how he was *wronged* by television, et cetera.
Whoever does it, hopefully Duke will return..! Well, Klinger would be nice,
as well, but then that already dilutes my concept of taking it directly back
to the novel...
Will
Joseph Nebus
>When I hear that Altman may being doing a sequel to the MASH movie,
>what springs to mind is that scene in his movie The Player when Buck
>Henry is pitching the idea of a sequel to The Graduate. It's just a
>laughable concept. Perhaps that is what he intends, to make a satire
>of ridiculous Hollywood sequels.
There's the problem ... I enjoyed the characters in M*A*S*H The
Movie, and the actors, and the directing, and I wouldn't mind seeing more
of them -- *but* is there anything to say about them and their place in
life that wasn't already expertly said by The Movie or the series? So
what's left? (One of my minor epiphanies -- actually M*A*S*H related --
was around age 13 or so, when I thought a followup to the Captain Tuttle
episode would be great, only to realize there was *absolutely* *no* need
for such a thing.)
As for satirizing Hollywood ... is there any aspect of Hollywood
which hasn't been wrung dry? The only absurd things left are incidents
from the real world involving vivid personalities, and that's hard to fit
thematically into a M*A*S*H-based story.
So I'd like to see it, but I can't say I see how it'd be something
to see.
Joseph Nebus
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Vicky LaDoucer
in front of a camera? She sure isn't as sexy for male viewers now as she
was back in '67.
Robert E. Morris
Hmmm. If Buddy Sorrell from the old 'Dick Van Dyke' was modelled after
Mel Brooks, does that mean his airhead-ish wife Pickles was modelled
after Anne Bancroft?
Vicky LaDoucer
lady at the time the DVDS was being thought up. If Buddy's wife is based
on Mel's real life wife its probably the latter's first Mrs. and not
Mrs. Robinson.
JayZ755
be truly mobile. They could remake some old Star Trek scripts.
Jay
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Robert E. Morris
based on someone like Anne Bancroft.
For those who don't know, the mains on the DVDS were based on Carl
Reiner's family and coworkers on 'Your Show Of Shows'.
Rob Petrie = Carl Reiner
Laura Petrie = Mrs. Reiner ( aka, the 'I'll have what she's having' lady
from When Harry Met Sally )
Richie = Rob Reiner ( Who, as a teen, apparently grabbed TV Mom-sub MTM
in a rude place )
Alan Brady = Sid Caesar
Sally Rogers = Imogene Coca
Buddy Sorrell = Mel Brooks
Mel Cooley was more indirect, since his inspiration was apparently not
Sid's assistant, but one of the sponsor's assistants.
Oh, yeah--and the theme song has words, just like MASH's.
RNeill22
>From: bright...@webtv.net (Robert E. Morris)
>
>Alan Brady = Sid Caesar
>
I've also heard Carl Reiner acknowledge that Alan Brady was based as much on
Jackie Gleason as on Sid Caesar.
Larry Coressel
Pure genius.
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position of responsibility in Starship Federation?"
"He was drafted..."
LC
Will Dockery
Does anyone know of an actual link with info on this supposed film..?
Will
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