‘DC’s Legends of Tomorrow’ Adds Muslim Superhero in Response to Trump

[David Amicus]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/08/03/dcs-legends-tomorrow-adds-muslim-superhero-response-trump/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_content=links&utm_campaign=20170803

I don't watch the series. I wonder if Muslims might take offence? She doesn't wear a burqa and freely associates with males she is not related to.

Will she be shown taking time out for the five daily prayers? Will she be shown fasting during Ramadan?

[jack]

Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.

[David Amicus]

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.

Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?

[jack]

Average high school girl in America. Don't know the character but gather she is american culturally. But seems as religious as most other kids. Whether she follows all the rules don't know the importance of that or how it matters do you care if all the Christian superheroes are strict adherents or not.

[David Johnston]

Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

When the Taleban find out they'll have her publicly whipped in a soccer stadium that was paid for by The West.

[David Johnston]

Actually she just turned up in something I got from the library. This is her talking to Miles Morales.

"My dad is a nightmare in two different languages. He'd ground me until menopause just for talking to you."

[David Johnston]

You have such strange fantasies.

[David Johnston]

In any case no. She's an American.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

Talking about a comic book hero? Just like Superman once fought nazis, surely she'd travel to Afghanistan to help the US put things right. Once there she'd run into the Taleban and they'd do to her what they did to so many others. Or maybe just execute her in the soccer stadium. That's their reality. I'll take my strange fantasies (how did you guess?) over that reality any day.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

That will stop the Taleban? And you accuse me of having strange fantasies.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

I wonder if dad thinks about honor killings.

[David Johnston]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:20:00 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> > > > > > Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?
> > > >
> > > > Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.
> > >
> > > When the Taleban find out they'll have her publicly whipped in a soccer stadium that was paid for by The West.
> >
> > You have such strange fantasies.
>
> Talking about a comic book hero? Just like Superman once fought nazis, surely she'd travel to Afghanistan to help the US put things right.

Why? It's not like the United States needs extra muscle.

>Once there she'd run into the Taleban and they'd do to her what they did to >so many others.

<snort> No they wouldn't. Not a single woman fighting for the American army has had that happen to her. Rape by the guys on her side, sure...

[David Johnston]

Why yes. It will Being in the United States is a fully effective way to stop the Taliban from doing one damn thing to you.

[David Amicus]

I remember a female US soldier in Iraq being raped by the enemy.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 6:27:52 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:20:00 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> > > > > > > Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.
> > > >
> > > > When the Taleban find out they'll have her publicly whipped in a soccer stadium that was paid for by The West.
> > >
> > > You have such strange fantasies.
> >
> > Talking about a comic book hero? Just like Superman once fought nazis, surely she'd travel to Afghanistan to help the US put things right.
>
> Why? It's not like the United States needs extra muscle.

But she's some sort of comic book hero, right?

>
> >Once there she'd run into the Taleban and they'd do to her what they did to >so many others.
>
> <snort> No they wouldn't. Not a single woman fighting for the American army has had that happen to her.

Lack of opportunity?

> Rape by the guys on her side, sure...

Citation needed.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

Where did you put those goal posts?

[David Johnston]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 6:27:52 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:20:00 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> > > > > > > > Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the Taleban find out they'll have her publicly whipped in a soccer stadium that was paid for by The West.
> > > >
> > > > You have such strange fantasies.
> > >
> > > Talking about a comic book hero? Just like Superman once fought nazis, surely she'd travel to Afghanistan to help the US put things right.
> >
> > Why? It's not like the United States needs extra muscle.
>
> But she's some sort of comic book hero, right?

Yes she is. So what? The United States already massively outguns their foes in Afghanistan. The problem isn't muscle.

> >
> > >Once there she'd run into the Taleban and they'd do to her what they did to >so many others.
> >
> > <snort> No they wouldn't. Not a single woman fighting for the American army has had that happen to her.
>
> Lack of opportunity?

Yes. And needless to say there wouldn't be more opportunity versus a girl who can shrink, stretch, grow, shrug off bullets and attack with superhuman strength.

>
> > Rape by the guys on her side, sure...
> Citation needed.

https://www.thenation.com/article/kbrs-rape-problem/

(Even among those cases where it clearly had jurisdiction, a close look at the DoD’s own stats reveals a far from stellar record: among the 684 sexual assault complaints lodged by US soldiers in the Middle East, only eighty-three cases have led to courts-martial. Meanwhile, last year alone, 2,688 sexual assaults were reported globally against women serving in the US Armed Forces; disposition of these cases is pending.

[David Johnston]

Same place they always were. Where she is. In (comic book) New York City.

[David Johnston]

You know they aren't all that common in North America.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 7:04:45 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 6:27:52 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:20:00 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When the Taleban find out they'll have her publicly whipped in a soccer stadium that was paid for by The West.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have such strange fantasies.
> > > >
> > > > Talking about a comic book hero? Just like Superman once fought nazis, surely she'd travel to Afghanistan to help the US put things right.
> > >
> > > Why? It's not like the United States needs extra muscle.
> >
> > But she's some sort of comic book hero, right?
>
> Yes she is. So what? The United States already massively outguns their foes in Afghanistan. The problem isn't muscle.

Was that a problem when Superman went to fight nazis?

>
> > >
> > > >Once there she'd run into the Taleban and they'd do to her what they did to >so many others.
> > >
> > > <snort> No they wouldn't. Not a single woman fighting for the American army has had that happen to her.
> >
> > Lack of opportunity?
>
> Yes. And needless to say there wouldn't be more opportunity versus a girl who can shrink, stretch, grow, shrug off bullets and attack with superhuman strength.

Won't stop the taleban from trying to do her in though. Maybe she can try on ISIS and be sold as a sex slave?

>
> >
> > > Rape by the guys on her side, sure...
> > Citation needed.
>
> https://www.thenation.com/article/kbrs-rape-problem/
>
> (Even among those cases where it clearly had jurisdiction, a close look at the DoD’s own stats reveals a far from stellar record: among the 684 sexual assault complaints lodged by US soldiers in the Middle East, only eighty-three cases have led to courts-martial. Meanwhile, last year alone, 2,688 sexual assaults were reported globally against women serving in the US Armed Forces; disposition of these cases is pending.

As a nation we've got some serious problems.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

I'd say one would be too common, but they're more common than that.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/09/honor-killings-united-nations-pakistan/85642786/
"The Department of Justice estimated in its 2014 report that based on U.S. demographics, 23 to 27 honor killings occur in the country each year."
But take some comfort from that fact that it's just an estimate.

[jack]

The comics tend to prefer super villains and aliens as opposed to the real thing. I doubt Marvel would involve Ms Marvel with the Taliban or ISIS as it would draw too much attention to the publisher.

[David Amicus]

In my community - this happened almost 40 years ago - East Indian (don't remember the religion) - parents arranged a marriage for their daughter. She liked another boy and married him. Her family had him killed. She then married the fellow her parents had arranged.

[David Johnston]

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:29:42 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 7:04:45 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 6:27:52 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:20:00 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:05:32 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When the Taleban find out they'll have her publicly whipped in a soccer stadium that was paid for by The West.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have such strange fantasies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Talking about a comic book hero? Just like Superman once fought nazis, surely she'd travel to Afghanistan to help the US put things right.
> > > >
> > > > Why? It's not like the United States needs extra muscle.
> > >
> > > But she's some sort of comic book hero, right?
> >
> > Yes she is. So what? The United States already massively outguns their foes in Afghanistan. The problem isn't muscle.
>
>
> Was that a problem when Superman went to fight nazis?

Yes. The Americans did not massively outgun the Nazis. They were actually taking substantial numbers of casualties.

[David Johnston]

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:31:50 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 7:07:45 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:00:55 PM UTC-6, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:05:33 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 9:05:32 PM UTC-6, David Johnston wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> > > > > > > Actually, DC is following in Marvel's path, which introduced a teenage superhero Pakistani-American girl about four years ago: Ms Marvel, taking the name of an earlier character with that same name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does pray fives a day? Fast during Ramadan? What is her interaction with male characters?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure she prays and fasts. She also fangirls Peter Parker in his Spider-Man guise and ships him and Captain Marvel because they're her favourite superheroes.
> > > >
> > > > Actually she just turned up in something I got from the library. This is her talking to Miles Morales.
> > > >
> > > > "My dad is a nightmare in two different languages. He'd ground me until menopause just for talking to you."
> > >
> > > I wonder if dad thinks about honor killings.
> >
> > You know they aren't all that common in North America.
>
> I'd say one would be too common, but they're more common than that.

And so are Christian parents killing their children. The point is you can't automatically assume that every father will kill his daughter if she steps out of line just because some do.

[jack]

And the family got away with the murder?

[David Amicus]

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:55:42 PM UTC-7, jack wrote:
> And the family got away with the murder?

No. Her brother who owned a fast food place hired two white guys to kill her husband. And for the payment it was set up that the two guys would steal from the fast food place late at night after it closed and no one was there. The brother and the white guys all went to prison. Nothing was done to the girl's father who wanted it done.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

Would Superman have fought the nazis even if American had massively outgunned them?

[David Johnston]

Nah. That would have just made him look like a bully.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

How about going to save the nazis' victims? Maybe our little girl muslim hero could save people from being burned alive by ISIS? Or save women from being sex slaves (on both sides?) Or maybe she could just speak out on how America is a great country because reasons?

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

I don't automatically assume it, I just think it's worthy of speculation.

[jack]

Send your ideas to Marvel.

[David Johnston]

In what way would he be any better at that than than millions of American soldiers occupying Germany?

>Maybe our little girl muslim hero could save people from being burned alive >by ISIS?

Ah now we're moving her from Afghanistan to Syria are we? Except she's still in high school and has a secret identity to protect so I'm inclined to think she'll stay in New York.

[David Amicus]

What are her superpowers?

[David Johnston]

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:

> > >Maybe our little girl muslim hero could save people from being burned alive >by ISIS?
> >
> > Ah now we're moving her from Afghanistan to Syria are we? Except she's still in high school and has a secret identity to protect so I'm inclined to think she'll stay in New York.
>
> What are her superpowers?

Elasticity, and size change. When she grows any part of herself that part gets strong. She can shrink to smaller than a mouse. Her elastic form is self-repairing.

Also correction, she doesn't technically live in New York. She lives in adjacent Jersey City.

[David Amicus]

Thanks! Reminds me of "Stretch Armstrong"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_Armstrong

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

Well, for one thing, she's a comic book character and can't be killed.

>
> >Maybe our little girl muslim hero could save people from being burned alive >by ISIS?
>
> Ah now we're moving her from Afghanistan to Syria are we?

And Iraq.

> Except she's still in high school and has a secret identity to protect so I'm inclined to think she'll stay in New York.

She can wear a hijab and no one will recognize her.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:20 PM UTC-4, jack wrote:
> Send your ideas to Marvel.

I'm more of a DC fan. I think this might say something about my personality. I think Marvel characters are a little more nuanced and I lack nuance.

[David Johnston]

Her father and her brother would recognize that she's disappeared.

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 11:34:29 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-6, David Amicus wrote:
>
> > > >Maybe our little girl muslim hero could save people from being burned alive >by ISIS?
> > >
> > > Ah now we're moving her from Afghanistan to Syria are we? Except she's still in high school and has a secret identity to protect so I'm inclined to think she'll stay in New York.
> >
> > What are her superpowers?
>
> Elasticity, and size change. When she grows any part of herself that part gets strong. She can shrink to smaller than a mouse. Her elastic form is self-repairing.

Very cool.

>
> Also correction, she doesn't technically live in New York. She lives in adjacent Jersey City.

That's a place that probably only exists in comic books. Look, here's what the world looks like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_World_from_9th_Avenue

[the...@bigmailbox.net]

That depends on how elastic she is. If she's really stretchy she could probably appear to be in several places at once.