Amber Frey--Suspect??
Maggie
right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a kick if she really
did it? The business about her visiting the hospital nursery after the baby's
birth (if true) is really creepy. No wonder she didn't want anyone digging
into her past. From New York Daily News:
The credibility of a key witness in the California missing-persons case of Laci
Peterson may have taken a seismic hit.
The witness, Amber Frey, wearing nothing but a thong and the braces on her
teeth, is appearing in pictures now available in The National Enquirer on
supermarket newsstands across the country.
Frey is the blond massage therapist who announced in a press conference last
month that she'd been having an affair with Scott Peterson, whose
eight-months-pregnant wife, Laci, went missing on Christmas Eve. With Modesto
Police by her side, the 29-year-old woman told the world she hadn't known Scott
Peterson was married.
But now a woman named Michelle Hart has come forward, telling the tab that Frey
had an affair with her husband, while she was pregnant.
"Amber knew the whole time that my husband was married and that I was pregnant
with our child," Hart said. "I pleaded with her to let him go, but it was no
use."
Chillingly, Hart also claims to have found a record indicating the leggy Frey
had visited the hospital nursery just one hour after her child, now 4, was
born.
A spokesman for Modesto District Attorney Jim Brazelton told us, "The case is
still in the hands of the police." A spokesman for the Modesto Police, Det.
Doug Ridenour, did not answer detailed questions about Frey's usefulness as a
witness, or even whether she might now be considered a suspect.
Scott Peterson has maintained his innocence, and says he had gone fishing. On
the day before Christmas.
Maggie
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so."--Douglas Adams.
jan49
> Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the
> all-clear right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a
> kick if she really did it? The business about her visiting the
> hospital nursery after the baby's birth (if true) is really creepy.
> No wonder she didn't want anyone digging into her past. From New
> York Daily News:
I always wonder if these people think they are living in a vaccum. Honest to
god, don't they know this is a tabloid culture -- and if someone has
something on them, it's GONNA COME OUT???
--
Jan
Atheist #2028
"I need to be able to move the right people to the right place at the
right time to protect you, and I'm not going to accept a lousy bill out
of the United Nations Senate." - Pres. GW Bush, South Bend, Ind., Oct.
31, 2002
jan49
> Chillingly, Hart also claims to have found a record indicating the
> leggy Frey had visited the hospital nursery just one hour after her
> child, now 4, was born.
May I also use this post as a way to voice my disgust over the use of the
word, "leggy," to describe .. well, ANYTHING? Short of a spider, perhaps.
Desi
Maggie wrote in message <20030207134719...@mb-fo.aol.com>...
>Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the
all-clear
>right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a kick if she
really
>did it? The business about her visiting the hospital nursery after the
baby's
>birth (if true) is really creepy. No wonder she didn't want anyone
digging
>into her past. From New York Daily News:
>
>Yes, the gossip section of the NYDN. LOL
Here's the second part the NR carried and it is time for tin foil hats,
I like the part that says triggered by the brain. Hilarious.
"Missing Pregnant Woman's Husband Fails Lie Detector."
Synopsis:
Scott Peterson "lied through his teeth" when he said he did not murder
his wife Laci, according to a leading lie detection expert. He's a
classic deceiver and he's guilty as hell, concluded Alfred Starewich,
who scientifically analyzed stress levels in Peterson's voice during his
nationally televised statements to Diane Sawyer.
Starewich told The ENQUIRER that Peterson's deception levels were "off
the charts" on all the major points of the investigation into his wife's
disappearance.
...He uses a high-tech psychological stress evaluator known as Diogenes
D6000P, an instrument that measures tremors in a person's vocal cords
"triggered by the brain, where lies come from."
"Voice analyses are accepted as probable cause by judges for the
purposes of issuing search warrants," said Starewich. In my opinion,
there is probable cause to arrest Scott Peterson.
DON GENTILE
Maggie
> Chillingly, Hart also claims to have found a record indicating the
> leggy Frey had visited the hospital nursery just one hour after her
> child, now 4, was born.
jan said:
May I also use this post as a way to voice my disgust over the use of the
word, "leggy," to describe .. well, ANYTHING? Short of a spider, perhaps.
>>
***Hey. *I'm* kinda leggy.
Maggie > black widow
jan49
> jan said:
> May I also use this post as a way to voice my disgust over the use of
> the word, "leggy," to describe .. well, ANYTHING? Short of a spider,
> perhaps. >>
maggie said:
> ***Hey. *I'm* kinda leggy.
>
> Maggie > black widow
:))
Bobby Smith
"jan49" <jrodak_@_inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:TcT0a.26300$vm2.12856@rwcrnsc54...
> Maggie wrote:
> > Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the
> > all-clear right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a
> > kick if she really did it? The business about her visiting the
> > hospital nursery after the baby's birth (if true) is really creepy.
> > No wonder she didn't want anyone digging into her past. From New
> > York Daily News:
>
> I always wonder if these people think they are living in a vaccum. Honest
to
> god, don't they know this is a tabloid culture -- and if someone has
> something on them, it's GONNA COME OUT???
>
>
>
> --
> Jan
> Atheist #2028
Here's a bit more of the Ne story that someone typed
out on another group.
Scott's Mistress Stole Another Mom-to-be's Hubby
by David Wright
(Article includes four pictures of a semi-naked Amber Frey, smiling with
braces). Caption, "Her Shocking Secret Life."
1. Enquirer has learned that Amber Frey was involved with another married
man whose wife was also expecting a child. Amber is a massage therapist.
2. 27 year old Michelle Hart of Fresno watched TV and recognized Amber as
the woman who had an affair with her husband. She claims that Amber is no
innocent. Michelle said Amber ran off with her husband when she was seven
months pregnant. Amber knew the whole time that the husband was married and
that Michelle was pregnant.
3. Police now want to re-interview Amber in view of recent developments.
Jilted wife said "I see Amber on TV and she is acting all innocent".." I
screamed at the TV this is BS." The affair took place four years ago.
Michelle became suspicous after Amber left a message on their answering
machine. Michelle then confronted her husband he denied it at first, then
admitted everything, saying they had met at the gym.
4. Michelle's husband was under Amber's spell and before she had the baby
left to move in with Amber. Amber thrrew a baby shower and invitied all her
friends and co-workers. She told friends she was having the shower for
Michelle's husband's baby. "Our child never saw any of the gifts". "She was
keeping them for when she had a child of her own.
5. After Michelle had her child she decided to confront Amber in an final
attempt to rescue her marriage. Michelle called her when she knew Amber was
not with her husband. She pleaded with Amber to let her husband go. Michelle
said some pretty nasty things about Amber and her husband.
6. Little did Michelle know when she said the nasty stuff that Amber was
setting her up and was recording Michelle. She then played back the tape for
Michelle's husband. The affair ended three months later.
7. Michelle found a baby book her husband was keeping and he had recorded
that Amber actually came to the hospital and saw the baby boy when he was
just an hour old. When Michelle read that she " just wanted to kill her." A
few moths later Amber and the husband broke up.
The End
Bobby
yaffaDina
Ah, he admitted the affair when he was found out.
>
> 4. Michelle's husband was under Amber's spell
Ah -- that explains why this woman's *husband* (the married man!) had an
affair when his wife was pregnant. It wasn't his fault. So, Scott can
relax now, this married man, too, was under the spell of another woman
while his wife was pregnant. It's all so clear now.
yD
...snipped ...
mothra...@hotmail.com
Well, but so what? We already know she had an affair with a married
man. It still doesn't make her a prostitute, or her place of employment
a "massage parlor." I wonder what took Michelle so long to air her
dirty laundry? Nobody here has claimed Amber is a saint; the only leaps
to speculate have been on the other side, and those speculations were
wrong.
Martha
mothra...@hotmail.com
Well, yeah. How does the fact that Amber Frey has had more than one
affair with a married man indicate *anything* about her guilt in a
possible murder, or Scott Peterson's innocence?
Martha
Desi
mothra...@hotmail.com wrote in message <3E4421...@hotmail.com>...
If this affair is true, which I have my doubts being only the NE reports
it,
it show no guilt whatsoever.
desi
Lady Taker
<mothra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, yeah. How does the fact that Amber Frey has had more than one
> affair with a married man indicate *anything* about her guilt in a
> possible murder, or Scott Peterson's innocence?
>
> Martha
Hasn't Scott packed his jammies and tooth brush and run away? Hasn't he
left his family standing around trying desperately to explain his escap...
er... "seminar"? Is Amber still in town? Does her father know where she
is? Is she still working? Inquiring minds want to know.
--
Giselle
Sarah Monroe
>it,
>it show no guilt whatsoever.
>
>desi
>
>
>
Aren't these people trying to hang Amber the same people that insisted Chandra
Levy was the Virgin Mary when it came out about her attraction for married men?
Gms
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting
complain to me, I will demonstrate.
Sarah Monroe
>affair when his wife was pregnant. It wasn't his fault. So, Scott can
>relax now, this married man, too, was under the spell of another woman
>while his wife was pregnant. It's all so clear now.
>yD
>
>...snipped ...
>
>
>
>
Yup, how the hell does a woman *steal* somebody's man? Takes two to tango.
Maggie
> > Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the
> > all-clear right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a
> > kick if she really did it? The business about her visiting the
> > hospital nursery after the baby's birth (if true) is really creepy.
> > No wonder she didn't want anyone digging into her past. From New
> > York Daily News:
>
> I always wonder if these people think they are living in a vaccum. Honest
to
> god, don't they know this is a tabloid culture -- and if someone has
> something on them, it's GONNA COME OUT???
by David Wright
The End
>>
***Thank you so much for posting this here. The NE never seems to put these
crime stories on their website, and I can't get a peek at them at the
supermarket until Tuesday. Interesting stuff. Sounds like her polyester suit
is the least of Amber's unadvised choices.
My funny face
fear of a successful relationship?? I dunno. I think it's rather a twist that
she tends to gravitate toward married men,.. with pregnant wives. Is it
coincidence?
I'm not saying she had anything to do with Laci's disappearance,.. just that
it's qwirky. That's all.
If she was my neighbor, I think, if I had a boyfriend I wanted to get rid of,..
I'd tell her he was a great lover,.. then I'd be SURE to be rid of him, all the
quicker.
Amber means caution,..
:)
MFF
I am trying to become the person I imagine myself to be, have patience.
My funny face
the mother to the baby,.. a step-mother... Not really KILLING anyone...
But, if it's true that the baby book mentioned that Amber wanted to KILL that
mom,.. that's creeeeepy.
Alex
20030207134719...@mb-fo.aol.com...
> Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the all-clear
> right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a kick if she really
> did it? The business about her visiting the hospital nursery after the baby's
> birth (if true) is really creepy.
Well it at least explains why she was so nervous at her press conference.
And she _was_ a little hesitant (just a little) in extending her sympthies to
her family "as well as" Laci.
> No wonder she didn't want anyone digging
> into her past. From New York Daily News:
>
> The credibility of a key witness in the California missing-persons case of Laci
> Peterson may have taken a seismic hit.
>
> The witness, Amber Frey, wearing nothing but a thong and the braces on her
> teeth, is appearing in pictures now available in The National Enquirer on
> supermarket newsstands across the country.
>
> Frey is the blond massage therapist who announced in a press conference last
> month that she'd been having an affair with Scott Peterson, whose
> eight-months-pregnant wife, Laci, went missing on Christmas Eve. With Modesto
> Police by her side, the 29-year-old woman told the world she hadn't known Scott
> Peterson was married.
>
> But now a woman named Michelle Hart has come forward, telling the tab that Frey
> had an affair with her husband, while she was pregnant.
>
> "Amber knew the whole time that my husband was married and that I was pregnant
> with our child," Hart said. "I pleaded with her to let him go, but it was no
> use."
>
> Chillingly, Hart also claims to have found a record indicating the leggy Frey
> had visited the hospital nursery just one hour after her child, now 4, was
> born.
Hints of "Fatal Attraction" (where Glenn Close takes the daughter for an
afternoon)?
> A spokesman for Modesto District Attorney Jim Brazelton told us, "The case is
> still in the hands of the police." A spokesman for the Modesto Police, Det.
> Doug Ridenour, did not answer detailed questions about Frey's usefulness as a
> witness, or even whether she might now be considered a suspect.
>
> Scott Peterson has maintained his innocence, and says he had gone fishing. On
> the day before Christmas.
Allright, but then there's a different problem. How did Amber get rid of the body?
Was her car seen in the neighborhood? I guess she could have kidnapped Laci
at gunpoint or have overpowered her in her pregnant state (less likely).
The only way would be if she and Scott were in on it together. I think that alone
can explain his lack of emotion, his lack of concern, bewilderment, etc.
I mean, he's acting as if he knows _something_.
On balance, it still looks that Scott did it on his own, but a 29-year old
stripper with a penchant for married women and perhaps morbid fantasies
about killing their wives and kids and have them to herself...
Something to think about.
Alex
jan49
> On balance, it still looks that Scott did it on his own, but a
> 29-year old stripper with a penchant for married women and perhaps
> morbid fantasies
> about killing their wives and kids and have them to herself...
So which is it -- she likes married men with pregnant husbands? Or married
women?
---
Jan, atheist in total disbelief over the gender-bending goin' on in atc
Alex
jan49 <jrodak_@_inorbit.com> schreef in berichtnieuws ei_0a.23654$2H6.529@sccrnsc04...
> Alex wrote:
>
> > On balance, it still looks that Scott did it on his own, but a
> > 29-year old stripper with a penchant for married women and perhaps
> > morbid fantasies
> > about killing their wives and kids and have them to herself...
>
> So which is it -- she likes married men with pregnant husbands? Or married
> women?
She's a freak. :-)
I meant married men, of course.
Alex
Alex
Desi <de...@cts.com> schreef in berichtnieuws b211eb$7b7$0...@pita.alt.net...
And any other thoughts too, I'll bet.
> "Voice analyses are accepted as probable cause by judges for the
> purposes of issuing search warrants," said Starewich. In my opinion,
> there is probable cause to arrest Scott Peterson.
As soon as he comes back from Mexico. :-)
Alex
Longtime Lurker
<mothra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3E4421...@hotmail.com...
> Well, yeah. How does the fact that Amber Frey has had more than one
> affair with a married man indicate *anything* about her guilt in a
> possible murder, or Scott Peterson's innocence?
>
> Martha
I agree. Nothing we have heard indicates Amber is involved with Laci's
disappearance.
When LE said that they didn't consider Amber a suspect I thought that meant
she probably had an alibi for the relevant times. IMO she could verify her
whereabouts from evening of Dec 23rd to the afternoon of the 24th (approx)
and that is why LE eliminated her as a suspect.
Longtime Lurker
Roseagh
in all the threads on here...but one has now hit home, so to speak.
I work on the front desk of a large hotel here in Wellington, New
Zealand. A gentleman arrived very early this morning, (2am) he looks
like the twin of Scott Peterson!!
I almost fell over, esp. when he spoke in an american accent and his
first name is Scott. He has a white line on his wedding finger, but no
wedding band.
Not much luggage, and the bags looked brand new. He is booked in for an
indefinate stay.
He said he owns a gardening business and is looking to set up here.
Could it be that he isn't in Mexico??
Racheal
Maggie
news:3E4421...@hotmail.com...
> Well, yeah. How does the fact that Amber Frey has had more than one
> affair with a married man indicate *anything* about her guilt in a
> possible murder, or Scott Peterson's innocence?
>
> Martha
lurker said:
I agree. Nothing we have heard indicates Amber is involved with Laci's
disappearance.
When LE said that they didn't consider Amber a suspect I thought that meant
she probably had an alibi for the relevant times. IMO she could verify her
whereabouts from evening of Dec 23rd to the afternoon of the 24th (approx)
and that is why LE eliminated her as a suspect.
>>
***Well, the NE story may be completely false, but they did get those pictures
from somewhere, as guppy pointed out. And *if* the story is true, we now know
that Amber is a pretty good liar, a thief and a stalker. Sure makes me want to
take another look at that alibi. And I've always wondered if the cops really
checked out where she was on the night of the 23rd/24th, or if they just
cleared her for the day of the 24th. I posted several days ago that I could
imagine a scenario where she and Scott got rid of Laci on the night of the
23rd, then she panicked when the press started following her and so she went
public repudiating Scott. Not a bad plan in the (admittedly) unlikely event
that that's what happened.
Threnody
Oh COOL! Did you contact your local law enforcement? It'd only take a
few minutes for them to ask him for some proper ID and a passport. And
then we all get to speculate some more. This is so FUN!
I think it's time for a rewrite of one of my favorite songs:
Doo-wop, doop-a-doo-bee doo-wop, doop-a-doo-bee
Doo-wop, doop-a-doo-bee doo-wop, doop-a-doo-bee...
BOW!
Well he offed his pregnant wife
And faked out law enforcement
And he ran all around Cali
Playing "Look At Me!"
Yeah, he sells a lot of bullshit
Mr. Fertilizer Hotshot
Tell me,
Where in the world is Scotty -- San Diego?
His lover thought him single
But now she's back in the limelight
About the same damn time
He hopped the border line
Now a spotting in New Zealand
By a flight desk clerk in W-town
Tell me,
Wasn't Scotty somewhere in Mexico?
He's a bastard, a cheater, a liar, a sneak
And he's gonna trip up
And we're all gonna CHEER!
=======================================================================
cr...@austin.TAKETHISOUTrr.com | Please remove the obvious to reply
"Certainly, exposure to opera at an early age did not inspire me to
stab someone and sing about it." Nancy Rudins, alt.true-crime
=======================================================================
Maggie
***From the KGO in SF website:
Jackie Peterson says she talks to her son everyday, but wouldn't say where he
is right now. She says he may be traveling abroad to Mexico, Egypt, or Spain
making sales calls for his employer. Jackie Peterson is also angry with police.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/020703_nw_missing_woman.html
****This is the first I've heard about Scott Peterson being an international
sales rep. The Modesto Bee article about his job said his territory was
California and Arizona. I wonder if Scott really was in the habit of
disappearing for weeks at a time and had told his family he was making
international sales calls while he as gone.
Sure would like to believe you, Rachael. What last name is this guy registered
under and what did he list as a home address?
Rachel
Hi again, his last name in Parker, and his home addy is in Oakland,
California. The Manager of the hotel is looking at the photos of him on
line and is considering mentioning it to the police, but because he
isn't wanted for anything, there is no reason to. What do you think??
Rachael
Maggie
***I can't imagine why your local police would be interested. You can contact
the Modesto police department by email or phone at the addresses/numbers on the
following site:
http://www.modestogov.com/cityInfo/contact.htm
If that doesn't get you a response, the reporter at the Modesto Bee that is
following the story most closely is Ty Phillips:
Let us know what happens.
Maggie
***Is this his address?
5937 Taft Ave
OAKLAND, CA 94618
Rachel
Maggie wrote:
> << << > Rachael said:
>
>
> ***Is this his address?
>
> 5937 Taft Ave
> OAKLAND, CA 94618
>
> Maggie
Nope...is that Scotts mums address??
R
Desi
Rachel wrote in message <3E44A70D...@this.place>...
Bawhahahahaah Mags is nuts again. She gets to take home the trolls
she feeds shit to
This one is hilarious
{{{{{{{{ARCHIEVED{{{{{
formica63
"Roseagh" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
news:3E448F82...@this.place...
Hi Rachel,
I was in Wellington a month ago, got into town around midnight on an Aust.
passport from Sydney. Do you know who flies in at night apart from
Qantas/Air Pacific?
Whereabouts in Wellington are you? I know the city fairly well and this
would be a good way to verify you're in NZ. No need for the name of the
hotel.
I can't imagine anyone selling much fertilizer in Wellington, what with that
amazing volcanic soil and all ...
Form.
Michael Snyder
How does... well... ANYTHING indicate anything about Scott's guilt?
Michael Snyder
Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506$8fcf...@news.wanadoo.nl>...
How did Scott?
>Was her car seen in the neighborhood?
Was Scott's?
> I guess she could have kidnapped Laci
>at gunpoint or have overpowered her in her pregnant state (less likely).
I guess Scott could have too. Zero evidence...
>The only way would be if she and Scott were in on it together.
Oh, you are un-fucking-believable!!!!
Michael Snyder
Desi wrote in message ...
Can you say "double standard"?
Rachel
Hey Form
I work in a hotel that is on the corner of Featherston/Grey St, we have
a neat little restaurant called the Arizona attached to us (great food)
....I thought it was strange that he said gardening, but then again,
with the Wairarapa just over the hill from here, that is good for
farming (heaps of fresh fruit and vegs/market gardens) and the vineyards
are just over the strait in Marlborough. A good central location for
all sorts of business ventures.
Come to NZ often??
Rach
ponyduck
knew Scott was going to Mexico and don't seem too concerned about it
at the moment. They also said he's expected back tomorrow (I assume
Sat.). We'll see if he shows up.
--pony
El Magnifico & Co
formica63
"Rachel" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
news:3E44BE61...@this.place...
Yes, pretty often. I love Wellington, and have good friends in Wellington
with whom I can stay. I went to the Wairarapa in January, actually, and I
also got very sunburnt at a restaurant on the water, just near where you
work.
Form.
Kasey1
little spurious. First of all, notice that the first post is signed
by "Racheal", which seems a little misspelled to me. When answering
the post about the Oakland address, the poster uses a different poster
name from the first post, which is spelled "Rachel". Sounds a little
funky to me...watch for bait.
jan49
> Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506
> How did Scott?
>
>> Was her car seen in the neighborhood?
>
> Was Scott's?
I hope so. He lived there.
("do do do do do do do")
Snyder, hang it up ... at least for the weekend.
--
Jan
Atheist #2028
Maggie
> << << > Rachael said:
>
>
> ***Is this his address?
>
> 5937 Taft Ave
> OAKLAND, CA 94618
>
> Maggie
rachael said:
Nope...is that Scotts mums address?? >>
***It's the address of a Scott Parker in Oakland.
jan49
> << Maggie wrote:
>> << << > Rachael said:
>>
>>
>> ***Is this his address?
>>
>> 5937 Taft Ave
>> OAKLAND, CA 94618
>>
>> Maggie
>
> rachael said:
> Nope...is that Scotts mums address?? >>
>
> ***It's the address of a Scott Parker in Oakland.
We really do think alike, Maggie. I went straight away to Yahoo's "People
Search" as soon as I read that post.
:)
In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register at
hotels overseas?
Longtime Lurker
"Desi" <de...@cts.com> wrote in message news:b22afm$mnu$0...@pita.alt.net...
>
> Bawhahahahaah Mags is nuts again. She gets to take home the trolls
> she feeds shit to
>
> This one is hilarious
>
>
> {{{{{{{{ARCHIEVED{{{{{
Troll or not the headers show that "Rachel" is posting from NZ
Longtime Lurker
>
>
>
mothra...@hotmail.com
If you've really lurked a long time, you'll recall that David
Westerfield couldn't possibly be interested in little girls because he
wore a suit to court and looked like he was accustomed to dressing that
way. Class bias is a nasty thing, clouding the mind like absinthe.
Martha
mothra...@hotmail.com
Well, in all the books, people hiding under a fake name always keep
their real initials, so that fits, and giving an address in the same
general part of the country as the real SP lives in would be smart, too.
Gosh, this is thrilling! I do hope it's our Scott!
Martha
mothra...@hotmail.com
Oh, don't be such an old fuddy-duddy! Sometimes I sign my posts
"Maratha." Don't you think this is fun?!
Maratha
mothra...@hotmail.com
>
> >Ah -- that explains why this woman's *husband* (the married man!) had an
> >affair when his wife was pregnant. It wasn't his fault. So, Scott can
> >relax now, this married man, too, was under the spell of another woman
> >while his wife was pregnant. It's all so clear now.
> >yD
> >
> >...snipped ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Yup, how the hell does a woman *steal* somebody's man? Takes two to tango.
>
I have a feeling these "pregnant husbands" might have been out looking
for a little action *because* their wives were pregnant.
Martha
Maggie
>> << << > Rachael said:
>>
>>
>> ***Is this his address?
>>
>> 5937 Taft Ave
>> OAKLAND, CA 94618
>>
>> Maggie
>
> rachael said:
> Nope...is that Scotts mums address?? >>
>
> ***It's the address of a Scott Parker in Oakland.
jan said:
We really do think alike, Maggie. I went straight away to Yahoo's "People
Search" as soon as I read that post.
:)
In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register at
hotels overseas?
>>
***Yeah--I've wondered the same thing. But, on the off-chance Rach(a)el is
legit......
jan49
You're such a show-off.
--
Ja'an
Maggie
Longtime Lurker >>
***Exactly. And, she's posted on at least one NZ message board. Could be a
troll, but doesn't cost me anything to help her out if she's not.
jan49
> << > << Maggie wrote:
>>> << << > Rachael said:
>>>
>>>
>>> ***Is this his address?
>>>
>>> 5937 Taft Ave
>>> OAKLAND, CA 94618
>>>
>>> Maggie
>>
>> rachael said:
>> Nope...is that Scotts mums address?? >>
>>
>> ***It's the address of a Scott Parker in Oakland.
>
> jan said:
> We really do think alike, Maggie. I went straight away to Yahoo's
> "People Search" as soon as I read that post.
>
> :)
>
> In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register
> at hotels overseas?
> >>
>
> ***Yeah--I've wondered the same thing. But, on the off-chance
> Rach(a)el is legit......
Oh, I think she's legit. Why would she lie about working in a hotel in NZ? I
think the chances she's got Our Scott in her grasp are slim, but I'm sure
she's who she says she is.
Maggie
> We really do think alike, Maggie. I went straight away to Yahoo's
> "People Search" as soon as I read that post.
>
> :)
>
> In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register
> at hotels overseas?
> >>
>
maggie said:
> ***Yeah--I've wondered the same thing. But, on the off-chance
> Rach(a)el is legit......
jan said:
Oh, I think she's legit. Why would she lie about working in a hotel in NZ? I
think the chances she's got Our Scott in her grasp are slim, but I'm sure
she's who she says she is.
>>
***Sorry--I mis-wrote. What you said.
mothra...@hotmail.com
>
> mothra...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Kasey1 wrote:
> >>
> >> Ummm, I HAVE been lurking here a while, and I think this sounds a
> >> little spurious. First of all, notice that the first post is signed
> >> by "Racheal", which seems a little misspelled to me. When answering
> >> the post about the Oakland address, the poster uses a different
> >> poster name from the first post, which is spelled "Rachel". Sounds
> >> a little funky to me...watch for bait.
> >
> > Oh, don't be such an old fuddy-duddy! Sometimes I sign my posts
> > "Maratha." Don't you think this is fun?!
> >
> > Maratha
>
> You're such a show-off.
>
> --
> Ja'an
Na'an? Is that yo'u?
Martha
formica63
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
news:20030208095806...@mb-mu.aol.com...
> << > << Maggie wrote:
> >> << << > Rachael said:
> >>
> >>
> >> ***Is this his address?
> >>
> >> 5937 Taft Ave
> >> OAKLAND, CA 94618
> >>
> >> Maggie
> >
> > rachael said:
> > Nope...is that Scotts mums address?? >>
> >
> > ***It's the address of a Scott Parker in Oakland.
>
> jan said:
> We really do think alike, Maggie. I went straight away to Yahoo's "People
> Search" as soon as I read that post.
>
> :)
>
> In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register at
> hotels overseas?
> >>
>
> ***Yeah--I've wondered the same thing. But, on the off-chance Rach(a)el
is
> legit......
Well, I've booked into a hotel in Wellington without showing any id, though
not Rachel's hotel. I can't see any reason for asking for id. Rachel
certainly seems to be from Wellington and her answer to me rang true, at
least in terms of what a local might say (Wairarapa, location, etc). I also
do know that planes fly into Wellington late, which makes 2am plausible,
which it would not be, for instance, in Sydney, where we have a curfew.
Does anyone know exactly when Scott left CA?
Form.
Maggie
<< Well, I've booked into a hotel in Wellington without showing any id, though
not Rachel's hotel. I can't see any reason for asking for id. Rachel
certainly seems to be from Wellington and her answer to me rang true, at
least in terms of what a local might say (Wairarapa, location, etc). I also
do know that planes fly into Wellington late, which makes 2am plausible,
which it would not be, for instance, in Sydney, where we have a curfew.
Does anyone know exactly when Scott left CA?
>>
***He reportedly checked out of a hotel in Guadalajara sometime Wednesday--I
don't have a more exact time. According to Rachel, Scott Parker showed up in
NZ at 2:00 a.m. local time Friday (I think Friday).
HudsonGrl
>From: maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
>Date: 2/8/2003 8:58 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <20030208095806...@mb-mu.aol.com>
>
>In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register at
>hotels overseas?
> >>
>
>***Yeah--I've wondered the same thing. But, on the off-chance Rach(a)el is
>legit......
>
they have always asked for ID in any hotel i have checked into overseas. me
thinks someone is trolling.
Hudson
jan49
> Well, I've booked into a hotel in Wellington without showing any id,
> though not Rachel's hotel. I can't see any reason for asking for id.
Could be an American thing. It's standard procedure to get ID here ..
probably for reasons just like this.
formica63
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
> form said:
> << Well, I've booked into a hotel in Wellington without showing any id,
though
> not Rachel's hotel. I can't see any reason for asking for id. Rachel
> certainly seems to be from Wellington and her answer to me rang true, at
> least in terms of what a local might say (Wairarapa, location, etc). I
also
> do know that planes fly into Wellington late, which makes 2am plausible,
> which it would not be, for instance, in Sydney, where we have a curfew.
> Does anyone know exactly when Scott left CA?
> >>
>
> ***He reportedly checked out of a hotel in Guadalajara sometime
Wednesday--I
> don't have a more exact time. According to Rachel, Scott Parker showed up
in
> NZ at 2:00 a.m. local time Friday (I think Friday).
Actually, it would be Saturday, 2 am (she posted at 4pm Sydney time, which
is 6pm in NZ). That would be 5 am Friday, PST. It's 13 hours or so from
SF/LAX to Sydney, 3 hours to Wellington. He could fly Qantas, Air New
Zealand, or United, and would have to change flights in Sydney or Melbourne,
Aust. or Auckland, NZ as jumbos can't fly into Wellington. He might have to
go via Hawaii, which stretches things out some. Flights to NZ from here are
very frequent.
Basically, the times seem perfectly plausible for him to leave the US on
Thursday, most likely from LAX (I have done this many times, with flights at
about 1pm). I'm assuming not many here have been to Wellington. It's not
teeming with US tourists, trust me.
Form.
Maggie
> << Well, I've booked into a hotel in Wellington without showing any id,
though
> not Rachel's hotel. I can't see any reason for asking for id. Rachel
> certainly seems to be from Wellington and her answer to me rang true, at
> least in terms of what a local might say (Wairarapa, location, etc). I
also
> do know that planes fly into Wellington late, which makes 2am plausible,
> which it would not be, for instance, in Sydney, where we have a curfew.
> Does anyone know exactly when Scott left CA?
> >>
>
maggie said:
> ***He reportedly checked out of a hotel in Guadalajara sometime
Wednesday--I
> don't have a more exact time. According to Rachel, Scott Parker showed up
in
> NZ at 2:00 a.m. local time Friday (I think Friday).
form said:
Actually, it would be Saturday, 2 am (she posted at 4pm Sydney time, which
is 6pm in NZ). That would be 5 am Friday, PST. It's 13 hours or so from
SF/LAX to Sydney, 3 hours to Wellington. He could fly Qantas, Air New
Zealand, or United, and would have to change flights in Sydney or Melbourne,
Aust. or Auckland, NZ as jumbos can't fly into Wellington. He might have to
go via Hawaii, which stretches things out some. Flights to NZ from here are
very frequent.
Basically, the times seem perfectly plausible for him to leave the US on
Thursday, most likely from LAX (I have done this many times, with flights at
about 1pm). I'm assuming not many here have been to Wellington. It's not
teeming with US tourists, trust me.
>>
***One modification of your timeline. He checked out of a hotel in
Guadalajara, Mexico on Wednesday afternoon (according to a news article I just
read). I would think he would fly from there to Mexico City, spend the night,
then fly out of the country from there (via either Hawaii>Australia>NZ or just
Australia>NZ). I can't believe he really would have returned to the US before
making the trip. This jibes with his mom's story that she hadn't heard from
him in 2 days--he was busy travelling.
Michael Snyder
jan49 wrote in message ...
>Michael Snyder wrote:
>> Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506
>> How did Scott?
>>
>>> Was her car seen in the neighborhood?
>>
>> Was Scott's?
>
>
>I hope so. He lived there.
At the time when she disappeared, sweets?
>("do do do do do do do")
Yeah, I've noticed. The quality of your content has, forgive my
french, gone down the crapper since you've been gone. What's up?
Family trouble?
Michael Snyder
mothra...@hotmail.com wrote in message <3E451A...@hotmail.com>...
Ahem: the only one displaying a _pattern_ of behavior here is Amber.
You gals sure are eager to defend her, and concentrate the blame on
any guy within view...
Lane Closure
>probably for reasons just like this.
>
A recent American thing, actually. As recently as 10 years ago, I remember the
only "ID" hotels and motels asked for was for you to write down your license
plate number on the registration card.
I'm no globe-trotter, but I've done a bit of overseas travel, and in my case I
checked into hotels in the UK without being asked for ID, but Italy wanted not
only photo ID, they also wanted to keep my passport at the front desk (I
declined). So it apparently varies from locale to locale.
jan49
> jan49 wrote in message ...
>> Michael Snyder wrote:
>>> Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506
>>> How did Scott?
>>>
>>>> Was her car seen in the neighborhood?
>>>
>>> Was Scott's?
>>
>>
>> I hope so. He lived there.
>
> At the time when she disappeared, sweets?
Yes, Scott lived there at the time Laci disappeared.
(rolling eyes)
HudsonGrl
>Date: 2/8/2003 10:05 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <20030208110555...@mb-mq.aol.com>
>
>A recent American thing, actually. As recently as 10 years ago, I remember
>the
>only "ID" hotels and motels asked for was for you to write down your license
>plate number on the registration card.
>I'm no globe-trotter, but I've done a bit of overseas travel, and in my case
>I
>checked into hotels in the UK without being asked for ID, but Italy wanted
>not
>only photo ID, they also wanted to keep my passport at the front desk (I
>declined). So it apparently varies from locale to locale.
i san speak for having to show ID in Spain and France. but, maybe it even
varies from hotel to hotel?
Hudson
Rachel
formica63 wrote:
> "Rachel" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
> news:3E44BE61...@this.place...
>
>>formica63 wrote:
>>
>>>"Roseagh" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
>>>news:3E448F82...@this.place...
>>Come to NZ often??
>
>
> Yes, pretty often. I love Wellington, and have good friends in Wellington
> with whom I can stay. I went to the Wairarapa in January, actually, and I
> also got very sunburnt at a restaurant on the water, just near where you
> work.
>
> Form.
Not "Tugboat on the Bay"?? or was it the "Shed" near Queens Wharf??
R
Rachel
jan49 wrote:
> Maggie wrote:
>
>><< Maggie wrote:
>>
>>><< << > Rachael said:
>>>
>>>
>>>***Is this his address?
>>>
>>>5937 Taft Ave
>>>OAKLAND, CA 94618
>>>
>>>Maggie
>>
>>rachael said:
>>Nope...is that Scotts mums address?? >>
>>
>>***It's the address of a Scott Parker in Oakland.
>
>
>
> We really do think alike, Maggie. I went straight away to Yahoo's "People
> Search" as soon as I read that post.
>
> :)
>
> In any case, do they not ask for identification when people register at
> hotels overseas?
>
> --
> Jan
> Atheist #2028
>
Not always, depends on how they are paying and if it is paid for by a
company.
Rach
Rachel
> "Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
> Basically, the times seem perfectly plausible for him to leave the US on
> Thursday, most likely from LAX (I have done this many times, with flights at
> about 1pm). I'm assuming not many here have been to Wellington. It's not
> teeming with US tourists, trust me.
>
> Form.
True Form, the only time we get an influx of american people here is
when one of the big cruise ships come into port, which they have been
doing during the summer.
Perhaps you should try this hotel (where I work) It would be good to
meet anther atc person :)
As for the Scott Parker that is here...he hasn't left his room all day,
(Saturday) and has only made one call to the states.
Rachel
Alex
fD21a.64880$Ik.26...@typhoon.sonic.net...
>
> Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506$8fcf...@news.wanadoo.nl>...
> >Allright, but then there's a different problem. How did Amber get rid of the body?
>
> How did Scott?
His fishing trip with the "umbrellas"? How does little Amber physically handle a dead,
pregnant woman?
> Oh, you are un-fucking-believable!!!!
Actually, you are unbelievably stupid. (I didn't think I'd use the word, but
I guess this occasion warrants it.)
Alex
Michael Snyder
jan49 wrote in message <20a1a.31043$2H6.626@sccrnsc04>...
>Michael Snyder wrote:
>> jan49 wrote in message ...
>>> Michael Snyder wrote:
>>>> Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506
>>>> How did Scott?
>>>>
>>>>> Was her car seen in the neighborhood?
>>>>
>>>> Was Scott's?
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope so. He lived there.
>>
>> At the time when she disappeared, sweets?
>
>Yes, Scott lived there at the time Laci disappeared.
>
>(rolling eyes)
It's been my impression that Scott was 90 miles away at the time Laci disappeared.
(casting eyes to heaven)
Maggie
> Basically, the times seem perfectly plausible for him to leave the US on
> Thursday, most likely from LAX (I have done this many times, with flights at
> about 1pm). I'm assuming not many here have been to Wellington. It's not
> teeming with US tourists, trust me.
>
> Form.
rachel said:
True Form, the only time we get an influx of american people here is
when one of the big cruise ships come into port, which they have been
doing during the summer.
Perhaps you should try this hotel (where I work) It would be good to
meet anther atc person :)
As for the Scott Parker that is here...he hasn't left his room all day,
(Saturday) and has only made one call to the states. >>
***Wanna email me the number?
sherman
<mothra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3E4519...@hotmail.com...
> Rachel wrote:
> >
> > Maggie wrote:
> > > Rachael said:
interest
> > > in all the threads on here...but one has now hit home, so to speak.
> > >
> > > I work on the front desk of a large hotel here in Wellington, New
> > > Zealand. A gentleman arrived very early this morning, (2am) he looks
> > > like the twin of Scott Peterson!!
> > > I almost fell over, esp. when he spoke in an american accent and his
> > > first name is Scott. He has a white line on his wedding finger, but no
> > > wedding band.
> > > Not much luggage, and the bags looked brand new. He is booked in for
an
> > > indefinate stay.
> > >
> > > He said he owns a gardening business and is looking to set up here.
> > >
> > > Could it be that he isn't in Mexico??
> > > >>
> > >
> > > ***From the KGO in SF website:
> > >
> > > Jackie Peterson says she talks to her son everyday, but wouldn't say
where he
> > > is right now. She says he may be traveling abroad to Mexico, Egypt, or
Spain
> > > making sales calls for his employer. Jackie Peterson is also angry
with police.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/020703_nw_missing_woman.html
> > >
> > > ****This is the first I've heard about Scott Peterson being an
international
> > > sales rep. The Modesto Bee article about his job said his territory
was
> > > California and Arizona. I wonder if Scott really was in the habit of
> > > disappearing for weeks at a time and had told his family he was making
> > > international sales calls while he as gone.
> > >
> > > Sure would like to believe you, Rachael. What last name is this guy
registered
> > > under and what did he list as a home address?
> > >
> > > Maggie
> >
> > Hi again, his last name in Parker, and his home addy is in Oakland,
> > California. The Manager of the hotel is looking at the photos of him on
> > line and is considering mentioning it to the police, but because he
> > isn't wanted for anything, there is no reason to. What do you think??
> >
>
> Well, in all the books, people hiding under a fake name always keep
> their real initials, so that fits, and giving an address in the same
> general part of the country as the real SP lives in would be smart, too.
>
> Gosh, this is thrilling! I do hope it's our Scott!
>
> Martha
This is true. Although the more exact terms would be "usually". They
usually utilize the same initials and/or use some of the same name/s and/or
reverse them. This would make a good pseudonym. For instance, he could use
the name: Peter Scott. Parker sounds like a winner though.
Gee, now if we could only find out the telephone number he called in the
States???
Rachael?
Pretty Please,
Sherm.
Rachel
> States???
>
> Rachael?
>
> Pretty Please,
> Sherm.
To you and Maggie....
If I were to do that, I would be breaking our Privacy Act and I could be
fired, so I will not do that, but the area code is "559".....
It is Sunday 10am here now, and he has gone out, dressed very casually,
but not looking like a tourist (no camera etc)
Rachel
HudsonGrl
>Date: 2/8/2003 3:50 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <jgua4vk1bud2icod9...@4ax.com
>
>Rachel..if you are going to be a private detective for the
>newsgroup....you have got to snoop and take a few chances
>We all have our lips sealed..and we hope you are not a troll :)
if she really wants to play private detective, how 'bout doing something
helpful and notifying the modesto police department. posting on a newsgroup is
pretty useless. i still say trolling.
Hudson
sherman
cybersleuth, it gets real creepy when what you are saying may be the real
thing, up close and personal. If this is all true down under, it would be
in the best interest of Laci's family to be able to deliver info to the
police there. Or one of the reporters covering the case or - to the police.
It might not hurt to notify the administration of the hotel either. For
Scott to flee to avoid prosecution is a crime. Harboring him is as well.
Spooky.
And, of course, exciting. sherm.
"Rachel" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
news:3E4571DF...@this.place...
tiny dancer
"Alex" <avdeele...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:3e455a7b$0$57481$8fcf...@news.wanadoo.nl...
Ah, finally another convert! ;)
td
>
>
Maggie
>True Form, the only time we get an influx of american people here is
>when one of the big cruise ships come into port, which they have been
>doing during the summer.
>Perhaps you should try this hotel (where I work) It would be good to
>meet anther atc person :)
>
>As for the Scott Parker that is here...he hasn't left his room all day,
>(Saturday) and has only made one call to the states. >>
>
>***Wanna email me the number?
>
>
>Maggie
nicki said:
Let us know Maggie....
What fun if this lady ~really~ does have Scott in her hotel. She
should contact the National Enquirer..they would pay big $$$$ for her
info.
I just saw Mrs Levy on television ..she has joined the search for Laci
today in Modesto...
I guess Scott was too busy to join the volunteers..
>>
***Hi nicki. You know--those Texas volunteers are pretty good. Late last
year, they found the body of a kid from around here who had been missing for a
month. Supposedly the police had searched the area near where he was found
three or four times. I'm not sure if it's the same group that found Danielle
van Dam, but I know they also found some other semi-famous missing person.
Can't remember who, though. At any rate--they have a pretty good track record.
Maggie
> <mothra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3E4519...@hotmail.com...
>
> Gee, now if we could only find out the telephone number he called in the
> States???
>
> Rachael?
>
> Pretty Please,
> Sherm.
rachel said:
To you and Maggie....
If I were to do that, I would be breaking our Privacy Act and I could be
fired, so I will not do that, but the area code is "559".....
It is Sunday 10am here now, and he has gone out, dressed very casually,
but not looking like a tourist (no camera etc) >>
***Hmmm. 559, huh? Not sure what that indicates. If he had called 619 (San
Diego), I'd think it really was Scott, phoning mom--she said yesterday that he
usually calls every day. If the guy in the hotel is Scott Parker from Oakland,
I'd expect 510. We know Scott Peterson has been spending some time in Fresno,
but I can't believe he's in touch with Amber. Of course, he could certainly
have some other friends there.
Keep us updated.
Chocolic
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
> Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the
all-clear
> right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a kick if she
really
> did it? The business about her visiting the hospital nursery after the
baby's
> birth (if true) is really creepy. No wonder she didn't want anyone
digging
> into her past. From New York Daily News:
>
> The credibility of a key witness in the California missing-persons case
of Laci
> Peterson may have taken a seismic hit.
>
> The witness, Amber Frey, wearing nothing but a thong and the braces on
her
> teeth, is appearing in pictures now available in The National Enquirer on
> supermarket newsstands across the country.
>
> Frey is the blond massage therapist who announced in a press conference
last
> month that she'd been having an affair with Scott Peterson, whose
> eight-months-pregnant wife, Laci, went missing on Christmas Eve. With
Modesto
> Police by her side, the 29-year-old woman told the world she hadn't known
Scott
> Peterson was married.
>
> But now a woman named Michelle Hart has come forward, telling the tab
that Frey
> had an affair with her husband, while she was pregnant.
>
> "Amber knew the whole time that my husband was married and that I was
pregnant
> with our child," Hart said. "I pleaded with her to let him go, but it was
no
> use."
>
> Chillingly, Hart also claims to have found a record indicating the leggy
Frey
> had visited the hospital nursery just one hour after her child, now 4,
was
> born.
>
> A spokesman for Modesto District Attorney Jim Brazelton told us, "The
case is
> still in the hands of the police." A spokesman for the Modesto Police,
Det.
> Doug Ridenour, did not answer detailed questions about Frey's usefulness
as a
> witness, or even whether she might now be considered a suspect.
>
> Scott Peterson has maintained his innocence, and says he had gone
fishing. On
> the day before Christmas.
>
>
>
> Maggie
>
I just knew there was more to her than originally published.
Maybe it was that hair.
Chocolic <ducking
jan49
Well???
How did he pay and who paid?
:)
Chocolic
<mothra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3E4421...@hotmail.com...
> Desi wrote:
> >
> > Maggie wrote in message
<20030207134719...@mb-fo.aol.com>...
> > >Sounds like the Modesto cops may be regretting giving old Amber the
> > all-clear
> > >right after her tearful press conference. Wouldn't it be a kick if
she
> > really
> > >did it? The business about her visiting the hospital nursery after
the
> > baby's
> > >birth (if true) is really creepy. No wonder she didn't want anyone
> > digging
> > >into her past. From New York Daily News:
> >
> > >
> >
> > Here's the second part the NR carried and it is time for tin foil hats,
> > I like the part that says triggered by the brain. Hilarious.
> >
> > "Missing Pregnant Woman's Husband Fails Lie Detector."
> >
> > Synopsis:
> >
> > Scott Peterson "lied through his teeth" when he said he did not murder
> > his wife Laci, according to a leading lie detection expert. He's a
> > classic deceiver and he's guilty as hell, concluded Alfred Starewich,
> > who scientifically analyzed stress levels in Peterson's voice during
his
> > nationally televised statements to Diane Sawyer.
> >
> > Starewich told The ENQUIRER that Peterson's deception levels were "off
> > the charts" on all the major points of the investigation into his
wife's
> > disappearance.
> >
> > ...He uses a high-tech psychological stress evaluator known as Diogenes
> > D6000P, an instrument that measures tremors in a person's vocal cords
> > "triggered by the brain, where lies come from."
> >
> > "Voice analyses are accepted as probable cause by judges for the
> > purposes of issuing search warrants," said Starewich. In my opinion,
> > there is probable cause to arrest Scott Peterson.
> >
>
> Well, yeah. How does the fact that Amber Frey has had more than one
> affair with a married man indicate *anything* about her guilt in a
> possible murder, or Scott Peterson's innocence?
>
> Martha
Probably no more than making Scott a murderer because he had an affair.
Amber not only had more than one affair, both the wives were in their 7th
month of pregnancy. It may be a coincidence, but still very odd.
Chocolic
jan49
> jan49 wrote in message <20a1a.31043$2H6.626@sccrnsc04>...
>> Michael Snyder wrote:
>>> jan49 wrote in message ...
>>>> Michael Snyder wrote:
>>>>> Alex wrote in message <3e446e6e$0$53506
>>>>> How did Scott?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Was her car seen in the neighborhood?
>>>>>
>>>>> Was Scott's?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope so. He lived there.
>>>
>>> At the time when she disappeared, sweets?
>>
>> Yes, Scott lived there at the time Laci disappeared.
>>
>> (rolling eyes)
>
> It's been my impression that Scott was 90 miles away at the time Laci
> disappeared. (casting eyes to heaven)
Of course, no one really knows what time Laci disappeared.
Chocolic
"My funny face" <myfun...@aol.comNoDuh> wrote in message
news:20030207204824...@mb-fx.aol.com...
> Mybe Amber saw the baby at the hospital because she was fantasizing about
being
> the mother to the baby,.. a step-mother... Not really KILLING anyone...
>
> But, if it's true that the baby book mentioned that Amber wanted to KILL
that
> mom,.. that's creeeeepy.
>
> I am trying to become the person I imagine myself to be, have patience.
No, Michelle said after reading that Amber had visited the baby, Michelle
just wanted to kill her. That's how I read it.
Chocolic
Kris Baker
or not, but here's something interesting:
http://www.usextradition.com/newzealand_bi.htm.
There's no death penalty in New Zealand, right? Therefore,
if Scott Peterson *were* in NZ when charged with a capital
offense, NZ is not obligated to extradite.
Shades of Ira Einhorn.
Kris
Maggie
I just knew there was more to her than originally published.
Maybe it was that hair.
Chocolic <ducking
>>
***Nah. It was probably that cheap polyester suit. She shouda kept it on.
Maggie
http://www.usextradition.com/newzealand_bi.htm.
Shades of Ira Einhorn.
>>
***New Zealand is also where Dr. Elizabeth Morgan sent her daughter Hillary
(with her parents) to hide her from the husband she said abused her (Hillary).
JC
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
Calls from here (Aus) to NZ are quite cheap - so I called. I figured out the
name of the hotel (I think), rang them and asked to speak to "Scott Parker".
There is no Scott Parker registered, I was told, but there is another Parker
registered. I thought the clerk said they have a "C." Parker registered, but
I had trouble understanding her; she spoke very fast and seemed a bit
nervous.
In any case, she connected me to the only "Parker" they do have registered.
A man answered the phone, and it sounded to me like a non-American accent. I
asked him his name. He seemed very obliging, and told me his name is "Truman
(not his real first name) Parker". I asked him where he was from, and he
said Melbourne. He sounded Australian to me, and the pitch and cadence of
his voice sounded nothing like Scott Peterson's (from tv interviews). He
sounded relaxed and friendly, and asked me who I was looking for and I just
said sorry, I think they connected me to the wrong room. He was very polite
and so was I. We hung up. (I mean, I didn't really want to say I thought he
was possible a wife murderer on the lam from California.)
I didn't want to cause a problem to anybody in any way, and was very
cautious all the way around, but only wanted to figure out if the guy there
was/is Scott Peterson. Again, I didn't want to go too far and possibly get
"Rachel" in trouble, cause I suspect she really does work there, even if she
is just having a bit of fun with atc at the moment. (Didn't want any RL
nastiness to rear its ugly head, due to repercussions and whatnot.)
Rachel, was it you I spoke to by any chance? Hm? Or what's the deal?
JC
sherman
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
And, it's about that slack jaw. Sherm
Stacia
>> 4. Michelle's husband was under Amber's spell and before she had the baby
>> left to move in with Amber. Amber thrrew a baby shower and invitied all her
>> friends and co-workers. She told friends she was having the shower for
>> Michelle's husband's baby. "Our child never saw any of the gifts". "She was
>> keeping them for when she had a child of her own.
>>[snip]
>>
>> 7. Michelle found a baby book her husband was keeping and he had recorded
>> that Amber actually came to the hospital and saw the baby boy when he was
>> just an hour old.
If these two items are true, they are certainly creepy.
>Well, but so what? We already know she had an affair with a married
>man. It still doesn't make her a prostitute, or her place of employment
>a "massage parlor." I wonder what took Michelle so long to air her
>dirty laundry?
This is the sort of thing I can see CNN skipping over. It's tabloid
material, it proves nothing but it's interesting.
However, like you said, it doesn't say anything about Amber's possible
guilt. In fact, to me it indicates she is *less* likely to be a murderer.
If her history with married men and their wives had been violent then that
would be one thing, but instead it's just the sordid, cliched bimbo type
behavior we've all heard before. A little freaky with the baby shower and
visiting the baby thing, but I imagine the tabloid played that up just to
inject a hint of suspicion that Amber was wacky enough to want to steal
Laci's baby.
Now, that would be a story - Amber kidnapping Laci to "steal" the baby,
and poor dumb Scott covering up for Amber because he thinks she did Laci
in. But I think that's more likely the plot to a Lifetime movie than
reality.
* * *
Stacia * sta...@world.std.com * http://world.std.com/~stacia/
"Perhaps it was the spring. And something in her eyes
that was much older than Manhattan, Kansas."
formica63
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
> << > form said:
> > << Well, I've booked into a hotel in Wellington without showing any id,
> though
> > not Rachel's hotel. I can't see any reason for asking for id. Rachel
> > certainly seems to be from Wellington and her answer to me rang true, at
> > least in terms of what a local might say (Wairarapa, location, etc). I
> also
> > do know that planes fly into Wellington late, which makes 2am plausible,
> > which it would not be, for instance, in Sydney, where we have a curfew.
> > Does anyone know exactly when Scott left CA?
> > >>
> >
> maggie said:
> > ***He reportedly checked out of a hotel in Guadalajara sometime
> Wednesday--I
> > don't have a more exact time. According to Rachel, Scott Parker showed
up
> in
> > NZ at 2:00 a.m. local time Friday (I think Friday).
>
> form said:
> Actually, it would be Saturday, 2 am (she posted at 4pm Sydney time, which
> is 6pm in NZ). That would be 5 am Friday, PST. It's 13 hours or so from
> SF/LAX to Sydney, 3 hours to Wellington. He could fly Qantas, Air New
> Zealand, or United, and would have to change flights in Sydney or
Melbourne,
> Aust. or Auckland, NZ as jumbos can't fly into Wellington. He might have
to
> go via Hawaii, which stretches things out some. Flights to NZ from here
are
> very frequent.
>
> Basically, the times seem perfectly plausible for him to leave the US on
> Thursday, most likely from LAX (I have done this many times, with flights
at
> about 1pm). I'm assuming not many here have been to Wellington. It's not
> teeming with US tourists, trust me.
> >>
>
> Guadalajara, Mexico on Wednesday afternoon (according to a news article I
just
> read). I would think he would fly from there to Mexico City, spend the
night,
> then fly out of the country from there (via either Hawaii>Australia>NZ or
just
> Australia>NZ). I can't believe he really would have returned to the US
before
> making the trip. This jibes with his mom's story that she hadn't heard
from
> him in 2 days--he was busy travelling.
>
I don't think he could fly direct from Mexico City to Aust. As far as I
know, you can fly here from Santiago or Buenos Aires, but not Mexico City.
Via Hawaii is still via the US, but much more cumbersome than via LAX or SF.
Form.
formica63
"Rachel" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
I guess the latter -- I had delicious scallops and we were right beside a
dock with a Dominion Post boat docked there.
Form.
formica63
"Rachel" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
> formica63 wrote:
> > "Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
>
> > Basically, the times seem perfectly plausible for him to leave the US
on
> > Thursday, most likely from LAX (I have done this many times, with
flights at
> > about 1pm). I'm assuming not many here have been to Wellington. It's
not
> > teeming with US tourists, trust me.
> >
> > Form.
>
> True Form, the only time we get an influx of american people here is
> when one of the big cruise ships come into port, which they have been
> doing during the summer.
> Perhaps you should try this hotel (where I work) It would be good to
> meet anther atc person :)
It's a date, though I'll stay for free in Karori. : )
Form.
Stacia
>>From: nicki nick...@nospamyahoo.com
>>Rachel..if you are going to be a private detective for the
>>newsgroup....you have got to snoop and take a few chances
>>We all have our lips sealed..and we hope you are not a troll :)
>if she really wants to play private detective, how 'bout doing something
>helpful and notifying the modesto police department. posting on a newsgroup is
>pretty useless. i still say trolling.
The name doesn't bother me - we all use aliases on Usenet, especially
when posting about work ;) What bothers me is that people don't usually
stumble across Usenet accidentally, it's not a hugely popular part of the
Internet.
But I'm not incredibly bothered. If Scott's in NZ, we'll find out
eventually.
formica63
"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
news:6wh1a.87$n45.8...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
There is no death penalty in NZ, and it is certainly less likely to oblige
the US govt. than Australia, also with no death penalty but currently #1
bumboy in the Pacific.
Form.
formica63
"JC" <jonesi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e45b4fa$0$16712$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
Great minds think alike. I was going to do this myself!
Form.
Desi
Rachel wrote in message <3E4571DF...@this.place>...
Seems you may have already broken your Privacy Act and the terms of your
employment and invaded the privacy of this guest by publishing
someone's name and address on the internet, who more than likely is an
innocent person, that is, if there is indeed a Scott Parker from
Oakland, staying there. Had your really believed this, you would have
sent an
email tip in to LE, not put it here.
desi
jan49
> Great minds think alike. I was going to do this myself!
Really? I was going to cover the Oakland, CA, angle <g>
Desi
Stacia wrote in message ...
>mothra...@hotmail.com writes:
>
>>> 4. Michelle's husband was under Amber's spell and before she had the
baby
>>> left to move in with Amber. Amber thrrew a baby shower and invitied
all her
>>> friends and co-workers. She told friends she was having the shower
for
>>> Michelle's husband's baby. "Our child never saw any of the gifts".
"She was
>>> keeping them for when she had a child of her own.
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>> 7. Michelle found a baby book her husband was keeping and he had
recorded
>>> that Amber actually came to the hospital and saw the baby boy when
he was
>>> just an hour old.
>
> If these two items are true, they are certainly creepy.
Very unbelievable, how many woman go to a baby shower where the
mom-to-be isn't there and they don't know her? It was more than four
years ago, did Amber plan to have a baby two years later?
And how many expectant fathers, or fathers for that matter, keep a baby
book? And newborn babies are not put on display in the nurseries after
just an hour.
desi
Rachel
> "Rachel" <nos...@this.place> wrote in message
> news:3E4558A1...@this.place...
>
>>meet anther atc person :)
>
>
> It's a date, though I'll stay for free in Karori. : )
>
> Form.
O MY GAWD!!!
Where here??? Not by the park at the south end?? I overlook the park in
Karori.... :)
Rachel
Rachel
Desi wrote:
> Seems you may have already broken your Privacy Act and the terms of your
> employment and invaded the privacy of this guest by publishing
> someone's name and address on the internet, who more than likely is an
> innocent person, that is, if there is indeed a Scott Parker from
> Oakland, staying there. Had your really believed this, you would have
> sent an
> email tip in to LE, not put it here.
>
> desi
I posted his name, not his address, nor his phone number.
I have sent an email via the website to laci's parents.
Rachel
WTH is LE??