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Zob's Thoughts on Titans Return Voyager-Class "Octone" (Octane)

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Zobovor

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18 Haz 2017 22:01:4218.06.2017
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The wife was at Target yesterday and called me at home to read off a tally of the Transformers they had in stock. (She knows I've been hunting for Sixshot.) I actually wasn't expecting them to have anything new (I'd only just barely read reports of Octone and Blitzwing hitting U.S. retail) but I'm not complaining. Happy Father's Day to me!

I've already bought this toy twice, once as wrong-colors Optimus Prime and again as G2-colors Optimus Prime. Now, finally, we get to the version of the toy that it had always been designed to represent. I'd expected it to be more or less a straight redeco of Optimus Prime with a different robot head. There's actually a substantial amount of remolding that I hadn't counted on, and while the end result isn't a completely different toy experience, they made enough changes that the toy's functionality has actually been altered.

Note that the toy is marketed as MURK(TM) & DECEPTICON OCTONE (TM). Hasbro's taken to calling the character Tankor in recent years, having lost the Octane trademark, but the name Octone with an "o," rhymes with touch-tone phone, was actually Takara's name for the G1 character, so there's a precedent of sorts. (I imagine they could have probably gotten away with calling him "Octain," which is how his name has been misspelled in IDW's "The Ark.") Imma call him just-plain-Octane (or maybe that should be just-plane-Octane) if nobodu objects.

He comes packaged in robot mode, and he's a pretty boy. Mostly light grey with some purple, and a dash of dark grey and dark blue for accents. Low-key, not in-your-face, but still clearly a Decepticon. He's also got a couple of yellow stripes on his abdomen, which appear on no previous version of the toy or character. He comes packages with the shoulder towers in the up position, but I think they're meant more to emulate the Laser Optimus look, so you can easily tuck them away and make him more Octane-able. No review of Octane would be complete without mentioning that his Sunbow animation model was cribbed from Optimus Prime's, so the fact that he does still look like Optimus Prime (especially in the legs) is strangely appropriate.

Design-wise, he's the same as Prime from the waist down, but he's got a different abdomen button and a different chest, the same V-shape chest but without the chest windows. (On the G1 toy, the chest formed the cab of the truck mode, and this toy tries to pay service to that.) Weirdly, his CG model on his package shows his entire torso and pelvis in that dark blue color, rather than just the chest and abdomen as on the finished toy. The arms are unchanged, and the fists are black plastic that's been painted purple to try to approximate the G1 character's original color mapping. Not a perfect color match, but they tried. He's got the exact same pop-up shoulder doodads as Prime. On the Prime toys, they helped to bulk up the helmet, though it's really not necessary for Octane. Octane did have purple sticky-up things on his shoulders in robot mode, and remolding them could have helped approximate that, but instead he's got a vestigial pair of Optimus ears. (Actually, it would be nice if you could stick them about halfway up, because that would be a really good look for him.)

Surprisingly, Octane gets all-new wings. What's more, they don't have the hinge down the center of each wing, so you couldn't tuck these bad boys away even if you wanted to. The hinges do allow for a couple of different configurations, so you can either have them standing up on his back parallel to each other (like The G1 Sixswhot toy) or sticking out to either side as far as possible (like he appeared in G1 animation, somehow even able to fit inside Sandstorm helicopter-mode cabin with those things poking out).

He comes with the same black dual-barreled gun as both iterations of Prime (it reminds me a little of the quad-barreled gun that came with the Generations edition of Octane/Tankor from 2008)which means I have three of these black guns now that I'll never be able to tell apart (Octane's does have some very small pock marks on the underside, a sign of mold degradation). Meanwhile, he ditches the sword in favor of a new, dark grey rifle. It takes its cues from Octane's flamethrower from the G1 days, and except for the missing shark fin on the top of the gun, it looks a lot like his original weapon. There are two holes on either side that are too loose to connect another weapon, which seems like a missed opportunity.

Murk transforms into Octane's head, and it's a reuse of the Diac figure that came with Optimus Prime. (Curiously, Octane's own instructions show pictures of Darkmoon turning into Astrotrain's head. Guess somebody forgot to update the template they had on file.) The mini-figure is entirely light grey with a purple head. Octane's head sculpt is great, perfectly capturing the look of the character from his Sunbow days. (Octane appeared in Marvel Comics with these weird, bulging goggles, possibly an early, rejected animation design. The third-party guys will have to come up with a replacement face if you want a Marvel-accurate Octane toy.)

I just want to stop and appreciate the robot mode. He's the right height to pal around with characters that he's likely to be associated with (Astrotrain and Blitzwing, or conversely, Sandstorm) and it's such a good-looking toy. I'm concerned about the way the lower legs are covered entirely in light grey paint, though. I thought that gated molds were Hasbro's go-to solution for making different parts on the sprue into different colors?

Transformation to truck mode is no big surprise if you've bought either of the previous Prime versions. Arms form the cab, but you practically need an engineering degree to figure out how to stuff the tail fin in between the cab halves. On the CG illustrations, there are another couple of yellow swatches that appear on the cab hood that aren't present on the finished toy. (Now their true purpose becomes clear—to help cement the faux relationship between the robot abdomen and the truck cab that it allegedly turns into. Shame they dropped this from the final version; it's a clever idea.) Balance the robot head on top of the hinge for the opening canopy, and you can finally reenact the scene from "Starscream's Ghost" when Octane gets stuck in mid-transformation and becomes a tanker truck with wings and a head. Actually, you might be stuck with a truck-with-wings anyway, because in addition to that engineering degree, you need a PhD in physics to figure out how to properly wedge the wings inbetween the robot legs for the truck mode. (Octane's wings are designed to lock to the robot legs, but they're not designed to snap together the same way the Prime wings are.) The stripes on the sides of the tanker trailer are foil stickers again, just like with G2 Prime. No problems with them peeling off, at least as of right now.

This is the best truck mode we've ever gotten for Octane, by far. The G1 toy's tanker truck configuration was a sad excuse for a vehicle, with barely-discernible front windows and gigantic robot arms poking out of either side. Even the Universe toy from 2008 wasn't really satisfying because it was so far-removed from the style of truck that Octane was supposed to be. This is a good, solid tanker truck mode, with a long-nosed truck cab, a clearly-defined tanker trailer, and it's in the right colors for the character. No chrome, like the G1 toy had, but it matches his animation colors, at least. (The tabs that connect the robot forearms to the hinged panels bother me a little, since both parts are painted grey, and that means paint is destined to come off the connector tabs. I wish they'd masked off the tabs before they got painted.)

The jumbo jet mode also gets some changes that I hadn't been expecting, since I always assumed the jet modes for the Prime toys were designed with Octane eventually in mind (though, maybe I should say jet mode, singular, since Hasbro doesn't acknowledge that the jet mode for the G2-inspired toy exists at all). Where Prime got a jet nose that was long and angular, Octane's is round and stubby, reminding me a little of the child-safe, nubby version of the Blast Off/Movor space shuttle. It's great, of course, and it fits Octane perfectly. It also means that the windows are so tiny that they're paint applications this time instead of foil stickers. So, that's a plus. With both versions of the toy side-by-side in jet mode, you can really appreciate how much longer and majestic Octane's wings are compared to Prime's. This thing actually looks like it can fly. The arms are, of course, ridiculously large, hanging there like preposterously oversized turbines, but that's the way the G1 toy was designed. In some ways it's become Octane's signature look, so I can't really say it doesn't fit the character.

Again, though, he's got paint problems. Both nosecone halves are made of dark blue plastic but are painted entirely light grey. I like that Hasbro took the extra step to ensure that his color profile would read correctly in all three modes, but good gravy, how am I supposed to keep this toy looking pristine and beautiful?

Reusing the toy as Optimus Prime was a pretty business-savvy move on Hasbro's part. It allowed them to keep one of their star players in circulation, and produce a toy (well, a couple of toys, really) that would make lots of little kids happy based on the name recognition alone. This, here, is what this toy design was born to do, though. And it does it so well. I love all of G1, and I'm capable of getting excited over just about any update of a character who was born from 1984-1990 (really, extent that date to 1995, because I love G2 just as much), but I'm especially fond of Octane. He really is one of my favorite characters from G1 lore, and I'm so delighted that they've finally done him justice.


Zob (gonna go cover him in Saran Wrap now)

banzait...@gmail.com

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18 Haz 2017 23:49:3418.06.2017
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Octone dropped?! When the hell did this happen?? I haven't seen so much as a preorder for him on bbts. I feel like Michael Douglas in Romancing the Stone finding out the Doobie Brothers broke up.


> gonna go cover him in Saran Wrap now

Don't you mean Ziploc bag?

-Banzaitron

Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.

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19 Haz 2017 02:04:3319.06.2017
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He's been in stores for like 4-5 weeks now, I saw him back in May.

Zobovor

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20 Haz 2017 19:44:3820.06.2017
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On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 8:01:42 PM UTC-6, Zobovor wrote:

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As a follow-up, I'd just like to add that Octane's head doesn't look too bad on Galvatron. It's approximately the right color, even. It kind of makes Galvatron look like he does in some episodes when his helmet crest is drawn extra-stubby, like in "Starscream's Ghost." It's not perfect, but it's a little better than the weird salad fork mask.


Zob (wondering when I'll find Blotzwong now)

banzait...@gmail.com

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21 Haz 2017 00:09:0921.06.2017
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I am a huge galvatron fan, so I sprung for the toyhax sticker kit, which came with a nice 3D printed helmet. Definitely recommended f you are looking to improve the toys head.

-Banzaitron. (Too busy lately to post much. Don't know how u guys do it)

Zobovor

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21 Haz 2017 01:13:1921.06.2017
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On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 10:09:09 PM UTC-6, banzait...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am a huge galvatron fan, so I sprung for the toyhax sticker kit, which came
> with a nice 3D printed helmet.

I was looking at that one and it's very attractive. Can you still transform the toy with the helmet in place?

> -Banzaitron. (Too busy lately to post much. Don't know how u guys do it)

I have a bot do it for me.


Zob (syntax error)

banzait...@gmail.com

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7 Tem 2017 01:06:287.07.2017
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Sorry, never answered your question. Life has been a bit nuts lately, which has kept me away from important things like att posts.
So, you have to remove his head to transform him, so I would say no? If you are referring to the headmaster figure, that's also a no. The head piece splits in two and is pretty easy to put back on.

-Banzaitron

Zobovor

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7 Tem 2017 01:40:227.07.2017
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On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 11:06:28 PM UTC-6, banzait...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry, never answered your question.

No worries!

> The head piece splits in two and is pretty easy to put back on.

This may be something I will have to spend money on in the near future.


Zob (I'll find a way to squeeze it in-between all the damn Schleich animals I've been collecting lately)

banzait...@gmail.com

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7 Tem 2017 16:59:487.07.2017
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> I'll find a way to squeeze it in-between all the damn Schleich animals I've been collecting lately

My god, you are an, well, an animal

-Banzaitron

Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.

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8 Tem 2017 10:50:098.07.2017
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Are you at least turning those animals into Maximals and Predacons?

David Connell

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18 Tem 2017 11:24:2718.07.2017
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I highly recommend the set - the stickers add some nice detail, and the helmet, unlike some other fixes, makes Galvatron look right without neutering the Titan Master functionality. Well worth the price.

David Connell

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18 Tem 2017 11:25:2018.07.2017
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Blaster or Soundwave?

Gustavo Wombat

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9 Ağu 2017 22:37:559.08.2017
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Zobovor <zm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Note that the toy is marketed as MURK(TM) & DECEPTICON OCTONE (TM).
> Hasbro's taken to calling the character Tankor in recent years, having
> lost the Octane trademark, but the name Octone with an "o," rhymes with
> touch-tone phone, was actually Takara's name for the G1 character, so
> there's a precedent of sorts. (I imagine they could have probably gotten
> away with calling him "Octain," which is how his name has been misspelled
> in IDW's "The Ark.") Imma call him just-plain-Octane (or maybe that
> should be just-plane-Octane) if nobodu objects.

Also, Murk is just Mark, but they couldn't get the trademark. I don't know
who Mark is, but he's probably just some guy named Mark. Sort of like Coach
Hazard, who comes with Blitzwing, probably having a first name. Coach Phil
"Choke" Hazard.

> He comes packaged in robot mode, and he's a pretty boy. Mostly light
> grey with some purple, and a dash of dark grey and dark blue for accents.
> Low-key, not in-your-face, but still clearly a Decepticon. He's also
> got a couple of yellow stripes on his abdomen, which appear on no
> previous version of the toy or character. He comes packages with the
> shoulder towers in the up position, but I think they're meant more to
> emulate the Laser Optimus look, so you can easily tuck them away and make
> him more Octane-able.

They get in the way of arm movement. I do rotate them so the gray "front"
is on the inside, so at least they match the chestplate in color.

> Surprisingly, Octane gets all-new wings. What's more, they don't have
> the hinge down the center of each wing, so you couldn't tuck these bad
> boys away even if you wanted to. The hinges do allow for a couple of
> different configurations, so you can either have them standing up on his
> back parallel to each other (like The G1 Sixswhot toy) or sticking out to
> either side as far as possible (like he appeared in G1 animation, somehow
> even able to fit inside Sandstorm helicopter-mode cabin with those things poking out).

The wings and they many joints around them are a little loose on my copy.
They sag if you poke at them. There are pegs and slots to hold them in
place, but not very good ones.

> He comes with the same black dual-barreled gun as both iterations of
> Prime (it reminds me a little of the quad-barreled gun that came with the
> Generations edition of Octane/Tankor from 2008)which means I have three
> of these black guns now that I'll never be able to tell apart (Octane's
> does have some very small pock marks on the underside, a sign of mold degradation).

I think I would have rather had an Octane with a sword than one with a
really recognizable Optimus Prime gun. And even if I don't want an Octane
with a sword, you can always find someone who needs a sword.

That said, two of the guns would be very nice on the shoulders of
QuickSwitch, to make him look different from Six Shot -- and a bit like
Powermaster Optimus Prime... Also, a lot of the modes look better with more
weapons.

> I just want to stop and appreciate the robot mode. He's the right height
> to pal around with characters that he's likely to be associated with
> (Astrotrain and Blitzwing, or conversely, Sandstorm) and it's such a
> good-looking toy. I'm concerned about the way the lower legs are covered
> entirely in light grey paint, though. I thought that gated molds were
> Hasbro's go-to solution for making different parts on the sprue into different colors?

Was he ever really with Astrotrain and Blitzwing?

I assume he was somewhere in the background of Triple Takeover, doing
something awesomely Octaney with his new empire, and then it just fell
apart and didn't merit reporting in the Cartoon. He probably met up with
Mark there.

> Again, though, he's got paint problems. Both nosecone halves are made of
> dark blue plastic but are painted entirely light grey. I like that
> Hasbro took the extra step to ensure that his color profile would read
> correctly in all three modes, but good gravy, how am I supposed to keep
> this toy looking pristine and beautiful?

It's battle damage. It will make him look tough.

> Reusing the toy as Optimus Prime was a pretty business-savvy move on
> Hasbro's part. It allowed them to keep one of their star players in
> circulation, and produce a toy (well, a couple of toys, really) that
> would make lots of little kids happy based on the name recognition alone.
> This, here, is what this toy design was born to do, though. And it does
> it so well. I love all of G1, and I'm capable of getting excited over
> just about any update of a character who was born from 1984-1990 (really,
> extent that date to 1995, because I love G2 just as much), but I'm
> especially fond of Octane. He really is one of my favorite characters
> from G1 lore, and I'm so delighted that they've finally done him justice.

This is a really good update, and the best version of the mold.

I know there's a Scourge version out there, but I don't like the Optimus
wings, so it doesn't feel like a must have. I mean, RID Scourge's original
toy is still awesome, so he doesn't need this update.

Now, if we got a Toxitron... that would be worth hunting down.

> Zob (gonna go cover him in Saran Wrap now)

Who am I kidding, I'll buy the Source version too...


--
I wish I was a mole in the ground.

Gustavo Wombat

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10 Ağu 2017 04:32:0210.08.2017
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Gustavo Wombat <gustav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Zobovor <zm...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Note that the toy is marketed as MURK(TM) & DECEPTICON OCTONE (TM).
>> Hasbro's taken to calling the character Tankor in recent years, having
>> lost the Octane trademark, but the name Octone with an "o," rhymes with
>> touch-tone phone, was actually Takara's name for the G1 character, so
>> there's a precedent of sorts. (I imagine they could have probably gotten
>> away with calling him "Octain," which is how his name has been misspelled
>> in IDW's "The Ark.") Imma call him just-plain-Octane (or maybe that
>> should be just-plane-Octane) if nobodu objects.
>
> Also, Murk is just Mark, but they couldn't get the trademark. I don't know
> who Mark is, but he's probably just some guy named Mark. Sort of like Coach
> Hazard, who comes with Blitzwing, probably having a first name. Coach Phil
> "Choke" Hazard.

The coach doesn't have an identified name, does he? And we don't know where
Hazard came from, so I'm thinking this is really very likely.

I still don't know where Mark/Murk comes from though. Did Octane ever have
any relationship with someone human sized?

Actually, I don't understand the IDW Titanmasters at all. They are tiny
robots who carve off a larger robots face and stick it to their own back,
and then they shove their heads into the larger robot's neck? And grant
them super powers? And whoever carved off Rodimus's face decided to take
the name for himself? And the Titanmaster who did it to Bugly went a step
further and created a little suit of armor to resemble the real Bugly's
body?

Zobovor

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10 Ağu 2017 08:04:2310.08.2017
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On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 2:32:02 AM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:

> The coach doesn't have an identified name, does he? And we don't know where
> Hazard came from, so I'm thinking this is really very likely.

Either that, or it's the Small Soldiers crossover that nobody asked for.

> I still don't know where Mark/Murk comes from though. Did Octane ever have
> any relationship with someone human sized?

The only human-sized creature I recall Octane interacting with was Abdul Fakkadi. That's a very exotic name, so maybe he goes by Mark Thompson sometimes for tax purposes.


Zob (all those off-shore bank accounts aren't going to fund themselves)
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