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Watch a Japanese Guy in a Tuxedo Slowly Transform War for Cybertron Unicron
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Zobovor
Aug 8, 2019, 8:24:23 AM8/8/19
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The video includes time=lapse photography, so it's only about two minutes long. It gives you a feel for the toy's design (all those collapsing panels!) and really gives you a sense of scale, though:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/exclusive-watch-a-japanese-man-in-a-tuxedo-slowly-tran-1836967381
Zob (stole that article title almost verbatim)
https://io9.gizmodo.com/exclusive-watch-a-japanese-man-in-a-tuxedo-slowly-tran-1836967381
Zob (stole that article title almost verbatim)
Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.
Aug 8, 2019, 7:43:30 PM8/8/19
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Well this is a little less impressive to me now. He's very panel. He's completely a shellformer. To me this makes Armada Unicron look better. The little spiky things have to be added on, and just hang there. The entire shell folds into his backpack and legs. I'm just not as impressed. He's an upscaled Energon Unicron with seemingly less gimmickry and more panels. At least Armadacron had missiles, and some of the robot formed some of the planet. Though I bet this guy has a voice and soundbox somewhere.
I know, I know, I'm negative. But I just want the inner robot to do something besides a basic unfold. The inner robot is only slightly more complicated than a Pretender inner robot, but without the extra mode.
banzait...@gmail.com
Aug 9, 2019, 12:30:46 AM8/9/19
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I gotta believe that with 20 days and still under 2,500 backers, the guy who came up with this idea is nervous about his career.
-Banzaitron
-Banzaitron
Zobovor
Aug 9, 2019, 1:27:21 AM8/9/19
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On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 5:43:30 PM UTC-6, Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People. wrote:
> Well this is a little less impressive to me now. He's very panel. He's completely a shellformer.
The animation for Unicron in the movie cheats a lot. We see some elements of his transformation, but he still magically changes shape a lot. His planet mode is completely spherical, but he has no spherical body parts when he's a robot. This is the first time they've tried to develop an authentic-looking Unicron toy that actually exists in three-dimensional space. I feel like at least some shellformer is inevitable.
> Well this is a little less impressive to me now. He's very panel. He's completely a shellformer.
> At least Armadacron had missiles, and some of the robot formed some of the planet.
> I know, I know, I'm negative. But I just want the inner robot to do something besides a basic unfold. The inner robot is only slightly more complicated than a Pretender inner robot, but without the extra mode.
I just can't believe how many people are actively against this project ever coming to fruition. I can understand people not being able to afford this thing, because it's insanely expensive. But it's honestly like people don't even want it to *exist.*
Zob (are people going to get mad when we get Titan-class Scorponok, too?)
Zobovor
Aug 9, 2019, 1:47:34 AM8/9/19
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On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 10:30:46 PM UTC-6, banzai...@gmail.com wrote:
> I gotta believe that with 20 days and still under 2,500 backers, the guy who came up with this idea is nervous about his career.
Six hundred bucks is a lot of money to expect the average citizen to be able to cough up on such short notice. I have every confidence that there will be a great number of last-minute backers. We weren't even warned that this toy was coming. John Warden never even hinted about its existence. Nobody had a chance to factor this toy into their budgets.
> I gotta believe that with 20 days and still under 2,500 backers, the guy who came up with this idea is nervous about his career.
I don't think that anybody's career is going to tank if this toy doesn't get made. Toy companies frequently spend time on research and development on products that never end up seeing the light of day. Granted, Unicron is a much more involved project than most. But, if the toy never gets produced, he'll just go down in history as yet another unmade Unicron toy, like the G1 prototype or the Beast Wars Neo version.
Zob (Unicron only costs the same as 30 Deluxe-class toys, and I'm pretty sure most of us have at least that many)
Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.
Aug 9, 2019, 8:37:23 PM8/9/19
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Maybe if it did more than just move around. We have a lot of Deluxes now that have pretty great poseability.
Perhaps if a 3rd party company makes some connectors so Unicron can be the core of a combiner that uses the other titans as limbs.... Metroplex and Fort Max as legs, Trypticon and Omega Supreme as arms...
Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats
Aug 10, 2019, 6:45:03 PM8/10/19
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If it cribbed more from the Cybertron Primus design, I would like it more, even if it was a little less authentic in each mode. Good transformation > authenticity, at least in my book.
As it is, it reminds me of the Darth Vader Death Star transformer, but without a cape.
Zobovor
Aug 11, 2019, 8:34:29 PM8/11/19
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On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:45:03 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
> Really shellformery. It doesn't really impress me beyond its size
I remember a time when the fandom was positively clamoring for G1 Unicron to get made into a toy. When he was consistently at the top of the Trannies votes. When people got so angry when BotCon was offering a cold cast statue in 2002 instead of a transformable toy.
> Really shellformery. It doesn't really impress me beyond its size
...Have I slipped into an alternate universe when none of that ever happened? It seems like we're finally getting the huge, transformable Unicron that (I thought) everybody wanted, only the collective fandom response seems to be, "Meh, no thanks."
> and I have way too much crap in my house as it is.
...I seem to be the world's only Unicron Apologist.
> Do I really need two cats, when one is so clearly superior?
> If it cribbed more from the Cybertron Primus design, I would like it more,
> even if it was a little less authentic in each mode.
> As it is, it reminds me of the Darth Vader Death Star transformer, but
> without a cape.
Honestly, I'm beginning to think you guys would have been happy with something like this:
https://tformers.net/i/a/energon/mcEnergon-unicron.jpg
Zob (just spent $20 on the tiny Marissa Faireborn figure that came with Masterpiece Delta Magnus, and not regretting it at all)
Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.
Aug 12, 2019, 12:42:08 AM8/12/19
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On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 7:34:29 PM UTC-5, Zobovor wrote:
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:45:03 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
>
> > Really shellformery. It doesn't really impress me beyond its size
>
> I remember a time when the fandom was positively clamoring for G1 Unicron to get made into a toy. When he was consistently at the top of the Trannies votes. When people got so angry when BotCon was offering a cold cast statue in 2002 instead of a transformable toy.
>
> ...Have I slipped into an alternate universe when none of that ever happened? It seems like we're finally getting the huge, transformable Unicron that (I thought) everybody wanted, only the collective fandom response seems to be, "Meh, no thanks."
>
But we've had some transformable Unicrons since then, and we want a $500 version to be better than what we've already gotten.
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:45:03 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
>
> > Really shellformery. It doesn't really impress me beyond its size
>
> I remember a time when the fandom was positively clamoring for G1 Unicron to get made into a toy. When he was consistently at the top of the Trannies votes. When people got so angry when BotCon was offering a cold cast statue in 2002 instead of a transformable toy.
>
> ...Have I slipped into an alternate universe when none of that ever happened? It seems like we're finally getting the huge, transformable Unicron that (I thought) everybody wanted, only the collective fandom response seems to be, "Meh, no thanks."
>
Yes it's prettier and has more articulation, but how will it balance without it's special stand? Can it balance? It's actually too big to play with and doesn't have much interaction with other collection pieces.
> > and I have way too much crap in my house as it is.
>
> Yes, but this wouldn't be crap. It would be the centerpiece of a collection. It's the sort of thing you buy a small piece of furniture specifically to put on display. Or, conversely, get some really strong fishing line and hang it from your ceiling.
>
> ...I seem to be the world's only Unicron Apologist.
>
> > Do I really need two cats, when one is so clearly superior?
>
> You're asking a guy who has six cats. It's hard to rank them in order of superiority. Terra gobbles like a turkey and is obsessed with smelling my hair after I get out of the shower. Oreo is the biggest bitch I've ever met, but I've trained her to tolerate getting picked up despite hating it. Blue just seems to exist to eat chicken, but my wife loves him for some reason. LuLu is like 17 years old and doesn't even bother run away from me anymore. Cocoa and Caramello are like twins, except Cocoa follows me everywhere I go and Mello has no personality. He just makes noises like a squeaky toy when anybody tries to handle him. He's the most superfluous and pointless of the lot, which means that in 15 years he'll be the only one left.
>
> > If it cribbed more from the Cybertron Primus design, I would like it more,
> > even if it was a little less authentic in each mode.
>
> I didn't have a clear memory of how Primus transformed so I had to go hunt down pictures. Seems like he's just wearing chunks of the planet mode on his back and on his legs. That's fine for a character who never really had a canonical robot design to begin with, I guess, but it wouldn't have worked for Unicron, who has square-shaped body parts as a robot.
>
> > As it is, it reminds me of the Darth Vader Death Star transformer, but
> > without a cape.
>
> I never bought that one. Had to look him up, too. That one seems to just dismantle the Death Star shell, which ends up in pieces all over his arms and legs. It's one possible approach, certainly, but that would have been unacceptable with Unicron.
>
Cappeca
Aug 12, 2019, 11:13:14 AM8/12/19
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Em domingo, 11 de agosto de 2019 21:34:29 UTC-3, Zobovor escreveu:
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:45:03 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
>
> > Really shellformery. It doesn't really impress me beyond its size
>
> I remember a time when the fandom was positively clamoring for G1 Unicron to get made into a toy. When he was consistently at the top of the Trannies votes. When people got so angry when BotCon was offering a cold cast statue in 2002 instead of a transformable toy.
>
Then Armada came, and that dream came true!
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:45:03 PM UTC-6, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:
>
> > Really shellformery. It doesn't really impress me beyond its size
>
> I remember a time when the fandom was positively clamoring for G1 Unicron to get made into a toy. When he was consistently at the top of the Trannies votes. When people got so angry when BotCon was offering a cold cast statue in 2002 instead of a transformable toy.
>
> It would be the centerpiece of a collection. It's the sort of thing you buy a small piece of furniture specifically to put on display.
> ...I seem to be the world's only Unicron Apologist.
>
> > Do I really need two cats, when one is so clearly superior?
>
> You're asking a guy who has six cats.
>
The way I see it, this will be like the "voting" for Optimus Prime as the first Masterpiece figure. Numbers will reach 8000, whether we actually have 8000 backers or not. It's a good thing it's gonna be made, and for the next six months after its release all we'll see in the fandom will be pictures of people's living rooms with the monstrosity as the center piece. Pictures of Unicron and cats, Unicron and small babies, Unicron and any Galvatron incarnation, Unicron and any matrix, Unicron and other Unicrons, silly jokes with Unicron and Armada Unicron where they call the smaller one "son" or "little brother", Unicron eating anything, like an apple or a tennis ball, or a bigmac, Unicron slapping the Primus toy in planet mode, Unicron against the movie poster, recreations of the movie poster with Unicron and some other toys, Unicron, Unicron and more Unicron. And that's not even addressing the creative fans putting Unicron in a baby chair in their car, or sarcastic fans taking photos of their own Unicron making jokes about it being expensive or a shellformer because they're too cool for toys. Lots of unboxing, video reviews, at least one person will repaint one into Armada Unicron, and one person will completely destroy one Unicron.
Because every single fan will feel the real need to milk down that whole fucking $600 in internet validation, up to the last cent.
Zobovor
Aug 12, 2019, 7:24:33 PM8/12/19
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On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:13:14 AM UTC-6, Cappeca wrote:
> Then Armada came, and that dream came true!
Armada Unicron is a good toy. But it's not a great toy. It was an acceptable Unicron in 2003 in the same way that Energon Roadblock was an acceptable Grapple update or Energon Downshift was a pretty good Wheeljack update. There was a time before 2006, before Classics and all that came after it, when we were hungry for whatever bones Hasbro deigned to throw at us. (Armada Sideswipe with a Battlecharger head sculpt? Yes, please, thank you, may we have another?)
> Then Armada came, and that dream came true!
Times have changed. Standards have changed. We're getting Titan-class of the heavy hitters in the Transformers universe now (Predaking, Omega Supreme, etc.), and Unicron needs to be bigger than that.
> ...which absolutely no one but you guys would appreciate. It's a tough decision, to say the least.
It's up to each individual fan to decide whether Unicron is something that's worth owning to them. I know there are Star Wars fans who have life-sized statues of Darth Vader and own replica lightsabers and helmets and things, which I personally have no interest in. But, I only get one lifetime on this planet, and I feel like Unicron needs to be in there somewhere. That's something I don't want to miss out on.
> People are very excited about this over TFW, for instance. Not so much on Reddit, though.
> No one needs more than 0 cats. All you need is a dog.
> Because every single fan will feel the real need to milk down that whole fucking $600 in internet validation, up to the last cent.
There's some good stop-motion animation out there that recreates scenes from the movie. I'm sure Unicron will factor into lots of new stop-motion videos.
Zob (wouldn't dare display a $600 toy in the living room)
Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.
Aug 12, 2019, 8:31:08 PM8/12/19
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On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:24:33 PM UTC-5, Zobovor wrote:
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:13:14 AM UTC-6, Cappeca wrote:
>
> > Then Armada came, and that dream came true!
>
> Armada Unicron is a good toy. But it's not a great toy. It was an acceptable Unicron in 2003 in the same way that Energon Roadblock was an acceptable Grapple update or Energon Downshift was a pretty good Wheeljack update. There was a time before 2006, before Classics and all that came after it, when we were hungry for whatever bones Hasbro deigned to throw at us. (Armada Sideswipe with a Battlecharger head sculpt? Yes, please, thank you, may we have another?)
>
Armada Unicron might have 2 pretty big wings, but he also uses his feet, and shoulders, and forearms to form parts of the planet shell. It's not an egg around a robot like Siege Unicron. Armada Unicron has a lot of missiles, he has sounds, he still has a rudimentary chomping, he has a moon Minicon and a few Minicon ports, a Minicon compartment in his belly for Minicons he's eaten.
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:13:14 AM UTC-6, Cappeca wrote:
>
> > Then Armada came, and that dream came true!
>
> Armada Unicron is a good toy. But it's not a great toy. It was an acceptable Unicron in 2003 in the same way that Energon Roadblock was an acceptable Grapple update or Energon Downshift was a pretty good Wheeljack update. There was a time before 2006, before Classics and all that came after it, when we were hungry for whatever bones Hasbro deigned to throw at us. (Armada Sideswipe with a Battlecharger head sculpt? Yes, please, thank you, may we have another?)
>
He has articulated shoulders, elbows, hips, knees, ankles, wrists neck, and fingers. Sure Siege Unicron might have all that articulation, but how much of it can he use without the stand? How much more is an extra elbow or knee joint worth when he has a quarter of a planet on the back of each leg stacked less efficiently than stacking Doritos. With all those panels, they do stack but they are a huge chunk that seems like it could have been done smoother.
> Times have changed. Standards have changed. We're getting Titan-class of the heavy hitters in the Transformers universe now (Predaking, Omega Supreme, etc.), and Unicron needs to be bigger than that.
>
> > ...which absolutely no one but you guys would appreciate. It's a tough decision, to say the least.
>
> It's up to each individual fan to decide whether Unicron is something that's worth owning to them. I know there are Star Wars fans who have life-sized statues of Darth Vader and own replica lightsabers and helmets and things, which I personally have no interest in. But, I only get one lifetime on this planet, and I feel like Unicron needs to be in there somewhere. That's something I don't want to miss out on.
>
> > People are very excited about this over TFW, for instance. Not so much on Reddit, though.
>
> I tried the Reddit group for a while but it's just people posting pictures of their toys. Over and over and over. It really gets old fast.
>
> > No one needs more than 0 cats. All you need is a dog.
>
> Dogs chew up toys!
>
> > Because every single fan will feel the real need to milk down that whole fucking $600 in internet validation, up to the last cent.
>
> You could be right about all of that, honestly. Me, I'll write a review, I'm sure, because that's what I do, but then I'll just find a shelf to put him on (or, more realistically, keep him in his box).
>
You're going to keep him in is box? He's not even a statue then, he's a box! If he's in the box he might as well be a $600 oversized Funko Pop!
> There's some good stop-motion animation out there that recreates scenes from the movie. I'm sure Unicron will factor into lots of new stop-motion videos.
>
>
> Zob (wouldn't dare display a $600 toy in the living room)
A few weeks ago I sold some Meteorbs Cometroid and Astro-lion I had. Guy was really excited. I'd actually buy a Unicron Meteorb.
Zobovor
Aug 12, 2019, 11:29:14 PM8/12/19
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On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:31:08 PM UTC-6, Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People. wrote:
> Armada Unicron might have 2 pretty big wings, but he also uses his feet, and shoulders, and forearms to form parts of the planet shell. It's not an egg around a robot like Siege Unicron.
But the compromise is that the only parts of Armada Unicron that form a round planet are the shell pieces that form his wings. Half his planet mode is rounded. The other half doesn't look right, because it's folded-up robot pieces.
> Armada Unicron might have 2 pretty big wings, but he also uses his feet, and shoulders, and forearms to form parts of the planet shell. It's not an egg around a robot like Siege Unicron.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Armada Unicron was terrible. I loved him when he first came out. But, these days he's more like a starter Unicron. He was My First Unicron.
> He has articulated shoulders, elbows, hips, knees, ankles, wrists neck, and fingers. Sure Siege Unicron might have all that articulation, but how much of it can he use without the stand?
> Unicron is a giant statue that is also a different giant statue. It needs a freaking stand.
I wish more Transformers came with stands. Masterpiece Tracks did, and now I want one for every single Masterpiece toy.
> We'll see who is the sucker when it's 125 degrees outside and you have to take the dog out then play Easter egg hunt to find it's turd. Know how many times a day I have to take the cats out? Know how hard it is to locate a cat turd?
> You're going to keep him in is box? He's not even a statue then, he's a box! If he's in the box he might as well be a $600 oversized Funko Pop!
Back in 1987, for a really long time I actually kept my Fortress Maximus in the original box. I stowed him away in the Styrofoam tray and everything. It just seemed like a handy way of keeping him safe. And then one day, after like a year or two, I decided that was silly and threw all the packaging away.
...A boxed G1 Fortress Maximus could have paid for, like, two Unicrons.
> It'd be cool if he came with some WST versions of Titans. If we got a 2 inch transforming Metroplex and Trypticon, or Scorponok.
Zob (I annihilated the world; you will be relieved, I hope, to learn that I didn't mean it)
Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.
Aug 15, 2019, 6:58:03 PM8/15/19
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On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 10:29:14 PM UTC-5, Zobovor wrote:
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:31:08 PM UTC-6, Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People. wrote:
>
> > Armada Unicron might have 2 pretty big wings, but he also uses his feet, and shoulders, and forearms to form parts of the planet shell. It's not an egg around a robot like Siege Unicron.
>
> But the compromise is that the only parts of Armada Unicron that form a round planet are the shell pieces that form his wings. Half his planet mode is rounded. The other half doesn't look right, because it's folded-up robot pieces.
>
> Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Armada Unicron was terrible. I loved him when he first came out. But, these days he's more like a starter Unicron. He was My First Unicron.
>
I just worry that this new Unicron has lost the play value and it's all about looks and nothing else. I don't want display pieces. I want to display my toys. I want function over form. I think that's where we disagree.
> On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:31:08 PM UTC-6, Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People. wrote:
>
> > Armada Unicron might have 2 pretty big wings, but he also uses his feet, and shoulders, and forearms to form parts of the planet shell. It's not an egg around a robot like Siege Unicron.
>
> But the compromise is that the only parts of Armada Unicron that form a round planet are the shell pieces that form his wings. Half his planet mode is rounded. The other half doesn't look right, because it's folded-up robot pieces.
>
> Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Armada Unicron was terrible. I loved him when he first came out. But, these days he's more like a starter Unicron. He was My First Unicron.
>
> > He has articulated shoulders, elbows, hips, knees, ankles, wrists neck, and fingers. Sure Siege Unicron might have all that articulation, but how much of it can he use without the stand?
>
> The bigger a toy is, the heavier it is. You can balance most Deluxe-class toys on one leg, but not when you get much bigger than Leader-class. Without the stand, Unicron will probably need to have both feet on the ground at all times. But, that doesn't make him any different from Metroplex, Fortress Maximus, Trypticon, Predaking, Omega Supreme, etc.
>
> > Unicron is a giant statue that is also a different giant statue. It needs a freaking stand.
>
> I really think the stand is intended more for planet mode. And, since they were including it anyway, they might as well integrate it so you can utilize it in robot mode as well.
>
> I wish more Transformers came with stands. Masterpiece Tracks did, and now I want one for every single Masterpiece toy.
>
> > We'll see who is the sucker when it's 125 degrees outside and you have to take the dog out then play Easter egg hunt to find it's turd. Know how many times a day I have to take the cats out? Know how hard it is to locate a cat turd?
>
> My cats poop in litter boxes. I never have any trouble finding their poop.
>
> > You're going to keep him in is box? He's not even a statue then, he's a box! If he's in the box he might as well be a $600 oversized Funko Pop!
>
> Let me rephrase. I'm going to *store* him in the box. I'm not going to keep him on a shelf and let him collect dust.
>
> Back in 1987, for a really long time I actually kept my Fortress Maximus in the original box. I stowed him away in the Styrofoam tray and everything. It just seemed like a handy way of keeping him safe. And then one day, after like a year or two, I decided that was silly and threw all the packaging away.
>
> ...A boxed G1 Fortress Maximus could have paid for, like, two Unicrons.
>
> > It'd be cool if he came with some WST versions of Titans. If we got a 2 inch transforming Metroplex and Trypticon, or Scorponok.
>
> Or maybe a really tiny Quintesson spiral cruiser that could crash through his eyeball.
>
>
> Zob (I annihilated the world; you will be relieved, I hope, to learn that I didn't mean it)
I almost want Unicron just as a place to put this....
banzait...@gmail.com
Aug 17, 2019, 1:11:21 AM8/17/19
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All of this discussion, while entertaining, is ultimately fodder. The demand just wasn’t there. Unless Hasbro lowers the backing number significantly (like in half), this thing will never see the light of day.
I am a bit surprised at the disdain for the Armada toy. Relative to today’s titan class standards, the armada Unicron is of superior quality in every way (and cheaper, even when adjusted for inflation.). Don’t forget about the light up eyes!!!
-Banzaitron
I am a bit surprised at the disdain for the Armada toy. Relative to today’s titan class standards, the armada Unicron is of superior quality in every way (and cheaper, even when adjusted for inflation.). Don’t forget about the light up eyes!!!
-Banzaitron
Irrellius Spamticon of the Potato People.
Aug 17, 2019, 9:02:59 AM8/17/19
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Maybe what we need is just an oversized Armadacron?
Zobovor
Aug 17, 2019, 11:14:27 AM8/17/19
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On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 11:11:21 PM UTC-6, banzai...@gmail.com wrote:
> All of this discussion, while entertaining, is ultimately fodder. The demand just wasn’t there. Unless Hasbro lowers the backing number significantly (like in half), this thing will never see the light of day.
You're talking like it's over. There are still two weeks to go. Something I keep seeing coming up over and over from fans on the message boards is that Hasbro didn't give people a lot of time to plan or prepare for this. There are lots of folks who live paycheck to paycheck. They have budgets. They have bills to pay. It's very difficult to just cough up an extra $575 in only two months.
> All of this discussion, while entertaining, is ultimately fodder. The demand just wasn’t there. Unless Hasbro lowers the backing number significantly (like in half), this thing will never see the light of day.
We're going to see a significant last-minute influx of supporters in the final days of the crowdfunding campaign. Just give people a chance to scrape together that kind of money.
> I am a bit surprised at the disdain for the Armada toy.
Zob (sad face)
banzait...@gmail.com
Aug 17, 2019, 11:15:37 PM8/17/19
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I am still skeptical of your theory that everyone is pulling together cash. This is America, you don’t actually need to have money to buy stuff. In fact, you couldn’t buy this item with cash if you wanted to. You’d ultimately have to use some sort of credit card.
Don’t get me wrong, As a backer I hope I am 100% wrong and you are 100% right. I am going to be seriously disappointed if this doesn't make.
-Banzaitron
Don’t get me wrong, As a backer I hope I am 100% wrong and you are 100% right. I am going to be seriously disappointed if this doesn't make.
-Banzaitron
Zobovor
Aug 18, 2019, 12:01:21 AM8/18/19
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On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 9:15:37 PM UTC-6, banzai...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am still skeptical of your theory that everyone is pulling together cash.
I don't mean literal cash as in physical bills. But there are fans on the message boards right now who are saying that they just bought a house or a kidney or a baby or something, and their monthly budget simply doesn't allow for an extra $575. That kind of money's got to come from somewhere. I mean, sure, there are probably people who are blowing $600 on toys every month, so it's not an issue for them.
> I am still skeptical of your theory that everyone is pulling together cash.
The big question, of course, is what are we all going to do with that $575 if we don't end up spending it on Unicron? Hmm, if only there was some OTHER toy that was around $500 that we could all buy instead. Could it be that this is actually some elaborate ploy to get people to purchase Masterpiece Optimus Prime 3.0?
Zob (if the Unicron thing falls through, I think I'll just get that unofficial reissue G1 Scorponok on eBay)
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Aug 18, 2019, 2:31:32 AM8/18/19
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On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 11:01:21 PM UTC-5, Zobovor wrote:
> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 9:15:37 PM UTC-6, banzai...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > I am still skeptical of your theory that everyone is pulling together cash.
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> I don't mean literal cash as in physical bills. But there are fans on the message boards right now who are saying that they just bought a house or a kidney or a baby or something, and their monthly budget simply doesn't allow for an extra $575. That kind of money's got to come from somewhere. I mean, sure, there are probably people who are blowing $600 on toys every month, so it's not an issue for them.
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I'm betting the scalpers are holding off hoping Hasbro announces what the price will be for those who don't preorder through crowdfunding. If Hasbro charges $800 for those who don't get in before the deadline, then the people who bought it at $575 can make a decent chunk of change selling them at $625+60 shipping.
> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 9:15:37 PM UTC-6, banzai...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > I am still skeptical of your theory that everyone is pulling together cash.
>
> I don't mean literal cash as in physical bills. But there are fans on the message boards right now who are saying that they just bought a house or a kidney or a baby or something, and their monthly budget simply doesn't allow for an extra $575. That kind of money's got to come from somewhere. I mean, sure, there are probably people who are blowing $600 on toys every month, so it's not an issue for them.
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> The big question, of course, is what are we all going to do with that $575 if we don't end up spending it on Unicron? Hmm, if only there was some OTHER toy that was around $500 that we could all buy instead. Could it be that this is actually some elaborate ploy to get people to purchase Masterpiece Optimus Prime 3.0?
>
They did sooo many MP-10, there's green camo, red camo, shoe deco, 7-11 deco, How can they generate 40 different color schemes of MP-44 at $500+ a pop and expect anyone to get more than 1?
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> Zob (if the Unicron thing falls through, I think I'll just get that unofficial reissue G1 Scorponok on eBay)
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