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Armageddon Fred

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Jan 12, 2011, 11:50:24 PM1/12/11
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PD <thedrap...@gmail.com> wrote:

>How do you handle cold-calling salespeople?

That depends upon whther one is a Republican Christian or someone normal.
Looks like the solution for Republican Christians is to gun down 18 people.


PD

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Jan 13, 2011, 9:06:16 AM1/13/11
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On Jan 12, 10:50 pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Armageddon Fred) wrote:

Way to go, identifying the acts of a paranoid schizophrenic with a
whole group of people.
I'm not one of that group of people, by the way.

Peter Franks

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Jan 13, 2011, 1:14:24 PM1/13/11
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That's the liberal mentality: it's /always/ someone else's problem.

Tom McDonald

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Jan 13, 2011, 2:00:13 PM1/13/11
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So Sarah Palin is a liberal?

Peter Franks

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Jan 13, 2011, 2:30:44 PM1/13/11
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I don't know, does she exhibit the liberal mentality?

Tom McDonald

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Jan 13, 2011, 2:35:08 PM1/13/11
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Compare Palin's speech on the Tucson shootings to Obama's. I'd say one
is somewhat better and more appropriate to the moment than the other.

Then judge which one lays blame on others, and which one takes
responsibility. Luckily, Palin has finally finished nailin' the lid on
her presidential aspirations.

Peter Franks

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Jan 13, 2011, 3:57:18 PM1/13/11
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I heard neither; you'll have to comment on it. Not that either has
anything to do w/ my statement.

Olrik

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Jan 14, 2011, 12:27:51 AM1/14/11
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The conservative mentality : the solution to a problem is /always/ at
somebody else's expense.

Peter Franks

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Jan 14, 2011, 10:13:53 AM1/14/11
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How so?

Olrik

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Jan 14, 2011, 10:17:58 AM1/14/11
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Ecological cleanup, say.

Peter Franks

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Jan 14, 2011, 11:54:59 AM1/14/11
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Where ecological cleanup is truly justified (i.e. ignoring the 'green'
agenda), I'd proffer that the conservative mentality is to shackle the
perpetrator with the cleanup efforts and costs.

Do you have an example to the contrary?

RM v2.0

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Jan 17, 2011, 10:03:22 AM1/17/11
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"Peter Franks" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
news:igpv52$855$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
No, he has no clue what he is talking about. The Dems are the party of spend
others money. Conservatives are into less taxation, less govt and more
personal responsibility. In his example, BP should be entirely responsible
for the cleanup, not the taxpayers.


Peter Franks

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Jan 17, 2011, 6:58:52 PM1/17/11
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Yes, I guess not.

> The Dems are the party of spend
> others money. Conservatives are into less taxation, less govt and more
> personal responsibility. In his example, BP should be entirely responsible
> for the cleanup, not the taxpayers.

Agreed.

Bob T.

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Jan 17, 2011, 7:13:32 PM1/17/11
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Heh heh heh... "nailin".

- Bob T
>
> - Show quoted text -

Olrik

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Jan 18, 2011, 12:38:25 AM1/18/11
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Exxon went up to the US Supreme Court because they did not want to fully
pay:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill

Or take a look at this :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster


> The Dems are the party of spend
> others money. Conservatives are into less taxation, less govt and more
> personal responsibility. In his example, BP should be entirely responsible
> for the cleanup, not the taxpayers.

You'll pay anyway. Where do you think BP gets its money from?

Peter Franks

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Jan 18, 2011, 8:32:45 AM1/18/11
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How is that a demonstration of the "conservative mentality"???

>> The Dems are the party of spend
>> others money. Conservatives are into less taxation, less govt and more
>> personal responsibility. In his example, BP should be entirely
>> responsible
>> for the cleanup, not the taxpayers.
>
> You'll pay anyway. Where do you think BP gets its money from?

Mostly liberals I guess.

What's your point?

Loirbaj

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Jan 18, 2011, 9:52:33 AM1/18/11
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Our best president since Washington

Olrik

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Jan 18, 2011, 10:55:48 AM1/18/11
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<plonk>

Peter Franks

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Jan 18, 2011, 11:34:39 AM1/18/11
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Oh well, you won't be missed.

Back to my point: presuming that there are more liberals than
conservatives, and they buy gas in equal quantities, then BP most
definitely DOES get its money from liberals, and they are therefore the
ones the end up paying for it, mostly.

Now mind you, this is your circuitous logic, I've just fleshed it out.
Not that you are reading any more, and not that I care.

Good day.

Virgil

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Jan 18, 2011, 4:53:59 PM1/18/11
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In article
<6b3fa2de-b51c-4fd8...@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Our best president since Washington

You mean Nancy?

bpuharic

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Jan 18, 2011, 5:46:35 PM1/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:52:33 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj
<Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

>Our best president since Washington

his son said he was senile in office

Jeanne Douglas

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On Jan 18, 2:46 pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:52:33 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj
>
> <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >Our best president since Washington
>
> his son said he was senile in office

I've been saying that for years. Alzheimer's takes years to develop to
the point where it's obvious to all and, based on when it was
announced that Reagan had Alzheimer's, it was obvious he'd had it
while President.

JD

Christopher A. Lee

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Jan 18, 2011, 5:59:07 PM1/18/11
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We knew that at the time in England.

Budikka666

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Jan 18, 2011, 6:07:22 PM1/18/11
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Where is the Soul? (Oct 16 2007)

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Of What Use, Exactly, is the Pope? Seriously? (Jan 22 2010)

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Of What Use, Exactly, is Jesus? Seriously? (Jan 30 2010)

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Of What Use Exactly, is God? Seriously (Feb 3 2010)

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Of What Use Exactly, is the Bible? Seriously (Feb 7 2010)

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Smallest genome a lot smaller than smallest modern cell:

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Precambrian to cambrian:

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Early diversification:

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4-winged dinos:

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Human evolution:

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The woodpecker's tongue:

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Noah's ark never happened:

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http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/index.html

http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Sciacademy/riggins/newindex.htm

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Budikka

Doc Smartass

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Jan 18, 2011, 7:07:31 PM1/18/11
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Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in news:6b3fa2de-b51c-4fd8-afe9-
c6c892...@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:

> Our best president since Washington
>

Also not evolving.

Reagan was nothing compared to Lincoln, FDR, Ted Roosevelt, Jefferson, or
Jackson.

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Aimin' to Misbehave aa # 1939

Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/

Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/

A Christian has to be Adolf Hitler to be called militant.
All an atheist has to do is write a book. -- Tommy Holland

bpuharic

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Jan 18, 2011, 7:54:41 PM1/18/11
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yeah i agree. was sad. he was a nice guy but no common sense

bpuharic

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we need you guys HERE

Mike Jones

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Jan 18, 2011, 8:04:27 PM1/18/11
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Responding to Budikka666:

"We've got one that can SEE!" ;)

--
*=( http://www.churchofreality.org/

Christopher A. Lee

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Jan 18, 2011, 8:35:59 PM1/18/11
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He told foreign leaders about incidents from his movies as if they
were real - the one I remember was the claim that he was an army
photographer during the liberation of an extermination camp.

And then there were the two speeches a few months apart where he used
the bombing of a bar in Germany that was used by American servicemen,
one time on Syria and the other on Libya as justification for bombing
them. Each time he claimed "irrefutable evidence" - and a famous
letter to the editor in a British newspaper asked if it was the same
irrefutable evidence.

Even if it were just his speech-writer he should have remembered the
second time instead of embarrassing himself to the world.

Smiler

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Jan 19, 2011, 7:16:56 PM1/19/11
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It took you 234 years to realise your mistake?

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Father Haskell

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Jan 19, 2011, 7:32:19 PM1/19/11
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On Jan 18, 7:54 pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:50:08 -0800 (PST), Jeanne Douglas
>
> <hlwdj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 18, 2:46 pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:52:33 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj
>
> >> <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >> >Our best president since Washington
>
> >> his son said he was senile in office
>
> >I've been saying that for years. Alzheimer's takes years to develop to
> >the point where it's obvious to all and, based on when it was
> >announced that Reagan had Alzheimer's, it was obvious he'd had it
> >while President.
>
> >JD
>
> yeah i agree. was sad. he was a nice guy but no common sense

Third year in office. RJ said his first real clue was when
Ron foundered during debates, out of character for an
otherwise good speaker.

Father Haskell

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Jan 19, 2011, 7:34:06 PM1/19/11
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That pretty clinches it by anyone's definition.

bpuharic

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Jan 19, 2011, 7:36:03 PM1/19/11
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:16:56 +0000, Smiler <Smi...@JoeKing.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:54:58 -0500, bpuharic wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:59:07 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>> <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:46:35 -0500, bpuharic <wf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:52:33 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj
>>>><Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Our best president since Washington
>>>>
>>>>his son said he was senile in office
>>>
>>
>>>We knew that at the time in England.
>>
>> we need you guys HERE
>
>It took you 234 years to realise your mistake?

is it too late?

Christopher A. Lee

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Jan 19, 2011, 7:38:23 PM1/19/11
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Do we really want a colony where they make tea with cold salt water?

Father Haskell

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Jan 20, 2011, 5:08:52 PM1/20/11
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On Jan 18, 4:53 pm, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:
> In article
> <6b3fa2de-b51c-4fd8-afe9-c6c8925dd...@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> > Our best president since Washington
>
> You mean Nancy?

Or Nancy's astrologer.

Father Haskell

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Jan 20, 2011, 5:10:36 PM1/20/11
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On Jan 13, 9:06 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 10:50 pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Armageddon Fred) wrote:
>
> > PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >How do you handle cold-calling salespeople?
>
> > That depends upon whther one is a Republican Christian or someone normal.
> > Looks like the solution for Republican Christians is to gun down 18 people.
>
> Way to go, identifying the acts of a paranoid schizophrenic with a
> whole group of people.
> I'm not one of that group of people, by the way.

But wait... aren't you identifying the acts of a paranoid
schizophrenic
with the whole group of paranoid schizophrenics?

Father Haskell

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Jan 20, 2011, 5:12:34 PM1/20/11
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On Jan 18, 12:38 am, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2011-01-17 10:03, RM v2.0 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Peter Franks"<n...@none.com>  wrote in message
> You'll pay anyway. Where do you think BP gets its money from?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

BP = Anglo-Iranian Oil. We've been paying for BP's random acts of
fuckupery for a LONG time.

PD

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Jan 20, 2011, 5:18:04 PM1/20/11
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I'm not sure. I'd let Queen Eskra answer that for you, but she's
asleep now, and I don't want to let her out because she's out to kill
me.

Loirbaj

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restoProg219

Smiler

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Jan 20, 2011, 8:39:48 PM1/20/11
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Get that budget deficit under control and we'll talk.

Virgil

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In article
<85a73842-22c3-4899...@c13g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> restoProg

Reagan is dead! Evolution is alive and thriving.

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