Why Do Atheists Fear Christianity?
Prophet
unacceptable to the christian?
just wondering
raven1
wrote:
>Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>unacceptable to the christian?
>
>just wondering
If I had any idea what the above is supposed to mean, I might be able
to answer you.
Conan the bacterium
> just wondering
Hoooookay...anyone want to take a shot
at translating that into the Terran?
conan
Ralph
Gee Assman, I didn't know atheists feared Christianity. We fear the
lying cheating followers of Christianity but have no animosity against
the religion.
skye...@yahoo.com
Nobody here is "afraid" of christianity, [M]Adman.
We do, however, tend to be very wary of christians.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
panam...@hotmail.com
snip
ROFL! The very fact that you are bothering people in alt.atheism is
because it's actually the other way around.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
JohnN
If you define fear as laughing at them so hard one cries, then yes
atheists 'fear' christianity.
What a maroon.
JohnN
Eris
I think it is the whipping, back breaking in the rack, impaling,
crucifixion, pedophilia, torture, lynching, burning at the stake, etc.
You get the picture.
R Brown
"Prophet" <el...@priest.com> wrote in message
news:003d6587-0128-47d8...@i5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> unacceptable to the christian?
>
> just wondering
>
to your wild-ass dreams.
C'mon Adman, you can scare us better than this can't you?
Science just ignores you guys and that just pisses you right off, dunnit?
Impotence; thy name is creationist.
Sucks to be you.
Buddythunder
> On Sep 29, 4:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> Nobody here is "afraid" of christianity, [M]Adman.
>
> We do, however, tend to be very wary of christians.
Bingo. Christianity seems to make morally normal people do very odd
things indeed. Sometimes harmful things that would be unthinkable
except by the urging of their gods.
Genital mutilation seems to me a fair example.
Doc Smartass
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> Subject: Why Do Atheists Fear Christianity?
I'm afraid they'll steal my guitar and use it to make ugly music.
I'm afraid they'll steal my car and drive it too slow in the fast lane.
I'm afraid they'll open my Doritos, eat a few, lick the cheese powder off
the rest, then leave them sitting out so they'll get stale.
I'm afraid they'll pee in my toilet without lifting the seat.
I'm afraid they'll mess with the thermostat, making it warmer and trying to
fool me into thinking I'm in hell...then they tell me about their nifty
Escape Plan!
--
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Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
"Just when you think you've seen stupid, along comes religion." - J.L.
Mike Jones
> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> unacceptable to the christian?
>
> just wondering
Why do you keep asking the same fuckwit questions over and over again?
Checks x-posts...
Ah. Its because you're a fuckwit-troll.
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Yap
Yes, I do fear.......I fear the young with immature minds fall victim
to the lies of your religion.
ilbe...@gmail.com
The reasons atheists fear The Christian Faith or any semblence of
God :
1. It is a threat to their autonomy.
2. It is a threat to needing the freedom to live anyway they feel like
living ...which would not be acceptable to a highly moral Creator.
3. Christians represent standards of morals and ethics ... something
the freethinking atheist feels cramped by. They dont want to be
imposed by high ethical / moral standards.
4. Admitting or acknowledging God brings about humility to someone
higher than Self , so, it must not be done. Nothing can be higher or
more important than Self and self interests.
5. The pursuit of pleasure outweighs wanting to get to know The
Creator of the Universe who has shown himself to be personal and
approachable. Pleasure has become an addiction.
7. The atheists peers would chastise him for abandoning the atheist
faith. He would be mocked and take on the typical stigma of a
Christian .
8. Ones own family would mock him , disown him, or at least bring
discomfort to his new found allegiance to God .
9. The atheist doesnt want to be told what he can and cant do in
life.
10. The atheist is trapped by his own pride and ego...and feels a
must to continue being defiant toward God . He hopes God somehow
cant be real , so no accountability has to be given in the end.
ilbe...@gmail.com
> Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
> of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
> religion.
>
> -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
> Liberty.-
> Thomas Jefferson
Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .Our
forefathers knew our rights, dignity, and intrinsic worth was due to
being fashioned in the image of the Creator... and not some accidental
burped up Pond Protozoa from DEAD chemicals in the atmosphere.
Atheism doesnt have absolute moral laws...that is a Christian concept
and a reality . You have the right to not have any religion if you
like , but if youre a proclaimed atheist, then you too have a religion
you follow....a secular religion which incorporates a worldview,
constructs, tenets, and affirmative beliefs (secular humanism which
is atheistic) .
ilbe...@gmail.com
Yes you do. And you fear death and the final tally for your life
lived in defiance to God and his ways .
ilbe...@gmail.com
They are a threat to your autonomy , as is anything that has to do
with The Creator . You should be very wary of your pride and
rebellion -- not Christians.
ilbe...@gmail.com
A maroon is something red .
DanielSan
> On Sep 29, 6:03 pm, Prophet<el...@priest.com> wrote:
>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>> just wondering
>
> The reasons atheists fear The Christian Faith or any semblence of
> God
Exodus 20:16, idiot.
We don't fear the Christian faith.
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ilbe...@gmail.com
But not your religion of atheism that would believe it possible for
the faces on Mt. Rushmore to have arrived by the natural elements of
wind, sun, soil erosion, lightening strikes on rock, mud slides,
time, chance, and luck ??? Does this sound mature to you , or, a
necessary charade to avoid acknowledging a personal Creator for a
personal Cosmos ?
Father Haskell
For the same reason that we fear rabies and Montezuma's revenge.
Father Haskell
wrote:
> On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
> > of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
> > religion.
>
> > -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
> > Liberty.-
> > Thomas Jefferson
>
> Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .
If that were so, I should be able to buy beer on Sunday.
Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
Father Haskell
wrote:
If there was a god, you'd have more to fear than us.
huge
Blue laws. Another good reason to get Xinity in check.
--
Not on my time you don't.
DanielSan
Sorry, but how can something we don't believe in be a threat to our
"autonomy"?
Father Haskell
wrote:
>
> But not your religion of atheism that would believe it possible for
> the faces on Mt. Rushmore to have arrived by the natural elements of
> wind, sun, soil erosion, lightening strikes on rock, mud slides,
> time, chance, and luck ???
Prove that they weren't.
Brian E. Clark
642067...@c28g2000prj.googlegroups.com>,
deinococcus...@gmail.com says...
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> Hoooookay...anyone want to take a shot
> at translating that into the Terran?
"I shouldn't have mixed tequila with Nytol."
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Richo
Olrik
You're projecting, troll.
SortingItOut
Slavery, denial of civil rights....
Mickey
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:03:47 -0700 (PDT), Prophet <el...@priest.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> >unacceptable to the christian?
>
> >just wondering
>
> to answer you.
He starts right off with a faulty conclusion - that atheists
fear Christianity. It's only certain Christians that everyone
should fear. These people have a tendency to go ballistic
and hurt people. You can say the same thing about certain
Muslims, certain Jews, certain Buddhists, certain Hindus, etc.
Uncle Vic
> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> unacceptable to the christian?
>
> just wondering
>
I don't fear Xinsanity. But it sure seems that Christians fear atheists.
Could it be their fear that we might just be right?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
"Salvation is NOT dependent on whether we recieved
forgiveness from another person."
--Dimwit Dave (IllBeBauk) 9/27/10
Uncle Vic
wrote:
> On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
>> of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
>> religion.
>>
>> -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
>> Liberty.-
>> Thomas Jefferson
>
> Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .
Bwaaaahahahahaha! What "absolute moral laws"? The bible condones
slavery. It gives special rights to rapists. It suggests it is OK to
kill your own children for insubordination, something our teenagers do
all the time.
> Our
> forefathers knew our rights, dignity, and intrinsic worth was due to
> being fashioned in the image of the Creator... and not some accidental
> burped up Pond Protozoa from DEAD chemicals in the atmosphere.
Are you absolutely sure we were fashioned in the image of some creator?
Or was the creator fashioned in the image of us? The concept of a
jealous god would be consistent with the latter.
> Atheism doesnt have absolute moral laws
Right. Just common sense. Something Christians never heard of.
Uncle Vic
<brian...@address.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Or gone out with Zacharias Mulletstein and a can of bug spray.
Uncle Vic
wrote:
And I'm sure you fear Thor's hammer. And his final decision that you won't
be enjoying Valhalla when you die. Too bad, those Viking girls give great
ghost.
Uncle Vic
> On Sep 29, 6:35 pm, "skyey...@yahoo.com" <skyey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
What the fuck do I care? Christian laws and mores are your problem, not
mine.
Uncle Vic
> On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 7:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>> > unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>> > just wondering
>>
>> If you define fear as laughing at them so hard one cries, then yes
>> atheists 'fear' christianity.
>>
>> What a maroon.
>>
>> JohnN
>
> A maroon is something red .
>
Once again jesusboy doesn't get it.
Uncle Vic
> But not your religion of atheism
What religion of atheism? Are non-believers somehow believers? This
screwed-up logic is just so typical of you Christers. If you're going to
blow this shit out your ass, would you at least do us the common decency of
lighting it on fire?
Uncle Vic
> The reasons atheists fear The Christian Faith
1. It demonizes anyone who is not a Christian.
2. I think that about covers it...
Mickey
wrote:
> On Sep 29, 6:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
>
> 1. It is a threat to their autonomy.
How about your autonomy and disobeying your Bible which
tells you to nother bother people who don't want to hear your
message. You disobey your God every time you invade a
newsgroup that doesn't want you or your message.
> 2. It is a threat to needing the freedom to live anyway they feel like
> living ...which would not be acceptable to a highly moral Creator.
Oh, yeah, what a hedonistic life I've led. No drugs, no alcohol,
no wild parties. I did go to a lot of science fiction and fantasy
conventions where I ...I ... I bought a lot of ... books! And, I
managed to save enough after a year or two to visit England,
Scotland and Wales a few times. I blush to admit it, but I ...I
... I visited historical sights and museums! And, when I visited
my brother in California, I went to even more museums!!!!!!!
Oh, my golly gosh! I'm doomed!!!!
> 3. Christians represent standards of morals and ethics ... something
> the freethinking atheist feels cramped by. They dont want to be
> imposed by high ethical / moral standards.
As far as Christians representing standards of morality and
ethics, that's a crock. They don't represent such things anymore
than anyone else. You certainly don't, no matter how highly you
think of yourself. Isn't pride supposed to be a 'sin'?
> 4. Admitting or acknowledging God brings about humility to someone
> higher than Self , so, it must not be done. Nothing can be higher or
> more important than Self and self interests.
You don't know the meaning of humility. Who died and
made you 'God'? That is the way you behave. You doom
yourself.
> 5. The pursuit of pleasure outweighs wanting to get to know The
> Creator of the Universe who has shown himself to be personal and
> approachable. Pleasure has become an addiction.
You have yet to provide evidence that your poxy sky
fairy exists. And, we all know why. You can't. You have
no evidence. You just have faith in something someone
told you. And, he learned it from someone else back to
the first fool who fell for a so-called 'prophet'. Faith is
not evidence. It is just voices in your head, in many cases.
In most cases, faith is just believing what someone told
you - taking their word for it. Why? That isn't evidence
of anything.
> 7. The atheists peers would chastise him for abandoning the atheist
> faith. He would be mocked and take on the typical stigma of a
> Christian .
No problem here in alt.atheism. Not one active atheist
member of alt.atheism has ever been converted to a
religion of any kind. As far as mockery is concerned,
we save that for fools like you who allow fear and
mythology to rule your life.
> 8. Ones own family would mock him , disown him, or at least bring
> discomfort to his new found allegiance to God .
Hell, no. My family is Jewish. And, they haven't kicked me
out. One of my cousins became a Born Again Christian
when she went to college. When she became ill years later,
her parents took her in and cared for her until she was
strong enough to move out on her own. We have interesting
discussions during family visits. My same aunt and uncle
were upset when they learned I was an atheist. But, when
I mentioned that I'd been an atheist since the age of 12,
they figured that I was the same person they'd always known
and accepted this. Another aunt asked me if I was was a
good person. When I told her that I couldn't live with myself
if I wasn't, she accepted this.
Sorry to disappoint you. Not.
> 9. The atheist doesnt want to be told what he can and cant do in
> life.
The atheist lives by the laws of the land he/she lives in and
whatever personal philosophy they follow or no philosophy
at all. But, they are still law-abiding.
> 10. The atheist is trapped by his own pride and ego...and feels a
> must to continue being defiant toward God . He hopes God somehow
> cant be real , so no accountability has to be given in the end.
The fact that you make such an accusation all by itself
shows that you are the one with the pride and ego
problem. Atheists don't care what you believe, as long as
you keep it to yourself and not push it in anyone else's face.
My accountability is to myself, my family, my friends, my
country, my planet and humanity in general. Yours is to a
piddly mythology that you will stick to no matter how many
people you bother or hurt.
What happened to 6.?
Mickey
wrote:
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
> > lying cheating followers of Christianity but have no animosity against
> > the religion.
>
> Yes you do. And you fear death and the final tally for your life
> lived in defiance to God and his ways .
No, silly boy. It's you Christians who fear death. You don't
know if you're going to heaven or hell. Atheists understand
that death is merely the end to life. If we're lucky enough to
simply wear out, probably most of us welcome the end. If
I was sick and in pain, I know I would welcome the end.
Mickey
wrote:
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
>
> > We do, however, tend to be very wary of christians.
>
> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> > BAAWA Knight
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net
>
> They are a threat to your autonomy , as is anything that has to do
> with The Creator . You should be very wary of your pride and
> rebellion -- not Christians.
You just can't conceive of anyone not believing in your sky fairy.
Christians like you are so limited in your mental outlook - so
crippled. I feel sorry for you (when you aren't trying and failing
to frighten us with your childish nonsense).
Mickey
wrote:
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
> > atheists 'fear' christianity.
>
> > What a maroon.
>
> > JohnN
>
> A maroon is something red .
Ever hear of Bugs Bunny?
Mickey
It's a real pity that the men who carved the Presidents on
Mount Rushmore didn't live to see the idiocy you spout.
They'd laugh their heads off and call you an imbecile.
Mickey
You still have Blue Laws where you live?
Mickey
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> I don't fear Xinsanity. But it sure seems that Christians fear atheists.
> Could it be their fear that we might just be right?
>
we write. It might 'shake their faith'. That says it all.
Mickey
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sep 29, 7:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> >> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> >> > just wondering
>
> >> If you define fear as laughing at them so hard one cries, then yes
> >> atheists 'fear' christianity.
>
> >> What a maroon.
>
> >> JohnN
>
> > A maroon is something red .
>
> Once again jesusboy doesn't get it.
>
a deprived childhood he must have had.
Mickey
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > But not your religion of atheism
>
> What religion of atheism? Are non-believers somehow believers? This
> screwed-up logic is just so typical of you Christers. If you're going to
> blow this shit out your ass, would you at least do us the common decency of
> lighting it on fire?
>
knows he's failing yet again.
DanielSan
I couldn't imagine a childhood without Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky
Pig, and the rest of the Looney Tunes gang....
Mickey
> On 9/29/2010 11:36 PM, Mickey wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 2:08 am, Uncle Vic<addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> >> One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"<ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, JohnN<jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sep 29, 7:03 pm, Prophet<el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> >>>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>
> >>>>> just wondering
>
> >>>> If you define fear as laughing at them so hard one cries, then yes
> >>>> atheists 'fear' christianity.
>
> >>>> What a maroon.
>
> >>>> JohnN
>
> >>> A maroon is something red .
>
> >> Once again jesusboy doesn't get it.
>
> > His mommy didn't allow him to watch cartoons. What
> > a deprived childhood he must have had.
>
> I couldn't imagine a childhood without Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky
> Pig, and the rest of the Looney Tunes gang....
>
Boris and Natasha, the six foot metal munching Moon
Mice, Gidney and Cloyd, the Rumplestiltskin Man and
the Princess With A Nose Like a Casaba Melon. Ah, bliss!
Devils Advocaat
> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> unacceptable to the christian?
>
> just wondering
In response to your subject line, atheists don't fear Christianity,
but what annoys the atheist (and Christian alike) are fools that
parrot the lies of others against the warning given by St Augustine:
http://www.pibburns.com/augustin.htm
In response to your post, it would seem if I read what you have posted
correctly that would be a good reason for creationists to fear
atheists, if by counter-logic you mean logic that creationists find
unacceptable as it exposes the falsity of their own "logic".
DanielSan
I didn't get that much out of R&B, to be honest. I loved Dangermouse!
Yap
> On Sep 29, 8:23 pm, Yap <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
> > to the lies of your religion.
>
> But not your religion of atheism that would believe it possible for
> the faces on Mt. Rushmore to have arrived by the natural elements of
> wind, sun, soil erosion, lightening strikes on rock, mud slides,
> time, chance, and luck ??? Does this sound mature to you , or, a
> necessary charade to avoid acknowledging a personal Creator for a
> personal Cosmos ?
If you do not know about all the elements of nature, then you do
really need the help of your sky pixie.
For me and us atheists, we rely upon our mother nature and work with
human intelligence for advancement.
We also have come a long way without any deity help, and the Chinese
have been so for more than 5,000 years.
Obviously you have issue with reality, but unfortunately living as a
human.
Yap
That imbecile must have a 3-year old mentality to make that type of
statement?
AllSeeing-I
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 29, 6:35 pm, Ralph <mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/29/2010 7:03 PM, Prophet wrote:
>
> >> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> >> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> >> > just wondering
>
> >> Gee Assman, I didn't know atheists feared Christianity. We fear the
> >> lying cheating followers of Christianity but have no animosity against
> >> the religion.
>
> > Yes you do. And you fear death and the final tally for your life
> > lived in defiance to God and his ways .
>
> And I'm sure you fear Thor's hammer.
Thor was Seth.
He threw the war hammer in battle with giants.
Which Giants? The ones mentioned in the bible.
More confirmation the bible is correct.
--
I see you found your foolish error:
"Salvation is NOT dependent on whether we recieved
forgiveness from another person."
--Dimwit Dave (IllBeBauk) 9/27/10
Remember it
AllSeeing-I
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
> >> of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
> >> religion.
>
> >> -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
> >> Liberty.-
> >> Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> > there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .
>
> Bwaaaahahahahaha! What "absolute moral laws"?
Though shalt not murder
Though shalt not lie
Though shalt have no other gods be for me
those moral laws
AllSeeing-I
> On 30 Sep, 00:03, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> In response to your subject line, atheists don't fear Christianity,
> but what annoys the atheist (and Christian alike) are fools that
> parrot the lies of others against the warning given by St Augustine:
>
Every big organization will have their renegades
>
> In response to your post, it would seem if I read what you have posted
> correctly that would be a good reason for creationists to fear
> atheists, if by counter-logic you mean logic that creationists find
> unacceptable as it exposes the falsity of their own "logic".
No. Counter logic is evolution. It goes against everything bit of
logic we observe taking place on this planet,
Therefore, their desperation to pair evolution with science is
unacceptable to the christian. Christians and christianity expose this
counter logic and THAT is why they fear Christianity.
AllSeeing-I
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> Could it be their fear that we might just be right?
>
> Uncle Vic
> aa Atheist #2011
>
> forgiveness from another person."
> --Dimwit Dave (IllBeBauk) 9/27/10
The only thing we fear are lies. Like the one you corrected above and
have not apologized for.
Wombat
> On Sep 30, 12:35 pm, "skyey...@yahoo.com" <skyey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 29, 4:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
>
> > We do, however, tend to be very wary of christians.
>
> things indeed. Sometimes harmful things that would be unthinkable
> except by the urging of their gods.
>
> Genital mutilation seems to me a fair example.
Genital mutilation? Have you got the right religion?
Wombat
Wombat
> On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
> > atheists 'fear' christianity.
>
> > What a maroon.
>
> > JohnN
>
> A maroon is something red .
Add humour to the list of things that DILV does not understand.
Wombat
AllSeeing-I
> "Prophet" <el...@priest.com> wrote in message
>
> news:003d6587-0128-47d8...@i5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> to your wild-ass dreams.
> C'mon Adman, you can scare us better than this can't you?
> Science just ignores you guys and that just pisses you right off, dunnit?
> Impotence; thy name is creationist.
> Sucks to be you.
Evolution is ill-logical. It is counter logic. Evolution goes against
everything we see taking place on this planet. No other process on
this planet evolves to the point that it becomes nothing like what it
originally evolved from. Even lava is liquid rock.
Christians know this. So you fear them. They do not buy into the lie
your science has vomited onto the world stage. This lie that says God
used evolution to create is exposed by Christians, Brown.
Have you been watching the clock? Every time you look at it remember.
The last day will be here soon.
--
An Angel eXposing the lie of Evolution is
The All Seeing I
Devils Advocaat
> On Sep 30, 2:04 am, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 30 Sep, 00:03, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
> > In response to your subject line, atheists don't fear Christianity,
> > but what annoys the atheist (and Christian alike) are fools that
> > parrot the lies of others against the warning given by St Augustine:
>
> >http://www.pibburns.com/augustin.htm]
>
> Every big organization will have their renegades
>
admitting that you and your ilk are the renegades of Christianity?
>
> > In response to your post, it would seem if I read what you have posted
> > correctly that would be a good reason for creationists to fear
> > atheists, if by counter-logic you mean logic that creationists find
> > unacceptable as it exposes the falsity of their own "logic".
>
> No. Counter logic is evolution. It goes against everything bit of
> logic we observe taking place on this planet,
Poor maddy, logic is not something that is observed.
You would know this if you understood logic.
>
> Therefore, their desperation to pair evolution with science is
> unacceptable to the christian.
You do not have the authority to speak for all Christians on this
matter.
The only Christians that find evolution unacceptable are the
creationists and other minority fundamentalists.
> Christians and christianity expose this
> counter logic and THAT is why they fear Christianity.
It seems to me the fear is in you and your ilk, and not in the
atheists.
After all you and your ilk have continually failed to even demonstrate
that the theory of evolution is wrong.
DanielSan
> On Sep 29, 7:32 pm, "R Brown"<br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Prophet"<el...@priest.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:003d6587-0128-47d8...@i5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>> just wondering
>>
>> Wow! You really have been driven nuts by your failed attempt to bend science
>> to your wild-ass dreams.
>> C'mon Adman, you can scare us better than this can't you?
>> Science just ignores you guys and that just pisses you right off, dunnit?
>> Impotence; thy name is creationist.
>> Sucks to be you.
>
>
> Evolution is ill-logical. It is counter logic. Evolution goes against
> everything we see taking place on this planet. No other process on
> this planet evolves to the point that it becomes nothing like what it
> originally evolved from. Even lava is liquid rock.
Why do you keep smearing your lies about evolution all over the place?
AllSeeing-I
> On Sep 29, 6:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> God :
>
> 1. It is a threat to their autonomy.
> living ...which would not be acceptable to a highly moral Creator.
> the freethinking atheist feels cramped by. They dont want to be
> imposed by high ethical / moral standards.
> higher than Self , so, it must not be done. Nothing can be higher or
> more important than Self and self interests.
> Creator of the Universe who has shown himself to be personal and
> approachable. Pleasure has become an addiction.
> faith. He would be mocked and take on the typical stigma of a
> Christian .
> discomfort to his new found allegiance to God .
> life.
> must to continue being defiant toward God . He hopes God somehow
> cant be real , so no accountability has to be given in the end.
Correct on all accounts
raven1
>On Sep 29, 6:35 pm, Ralph <mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/2010 7:03 PM, Prophet wrote:
>>
>> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>> > unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>> > just wondering
>>
>> Gee Assman, I didn't know atheists feared Christianity. We fear the
>> lying cheating followers of Christianity but have no animosity against
>> the religion.
>
>Yes you do.
Wrong.
>And you fear death and the final tally for your life
>lived in defiance to God and his ways .
Very wrong.
raven1
>On Sep 29, 8:23 pm, Yap <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 30 Sep, 06:03, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>> > unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>> > just wondering
>>
>> Yes, I do fear.......I fear the young with immature minds fall victim
>> to the lies of your religion.
>
>But not your religion of atheism
Atheism isn't a religion, idiot.
>that would believe it possible for
>the faces on Mt. Rushmore to have arrived by the natural elements of
>wind, sun, soil erosion, lightening strikes on rock, mud slides,
>time, chance, and luck ??? Does this sound mature to you ,
No, it sounds like an idiotic strawman.
> or, a
>necessary charade to avoid acknowledging a personal Creator for a
>personal Cosmos ?
I see no reason to think that such a creator exists, and it wouldn't
change my life in any way if I thought otherwise.
raven1
<ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 29, 6:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>> just wondering
>
>The reasons atheists fear The Christian Faith or any semblence of
>God :
>
>1. It is a threat to their autonomy.
>2. It is a threat to needing the freedom to live anyway they feel like
>living ...which would not be acceptable to a highly moral Creator.
>3. Christians represent standards of morals and ethics ... something
>the freethinking atheist feels cramped by. They dont want to be
>imposed by high ethical / moral standards.
>4. Admitting or acknowledging God brings about humility to someone
>higher than Self , so, it must not be done. Nothing can be higher or
>more important than Self and self interests.
>5. The pursuit of pleasure outweighs wanting to get to know The
>Creator of the Universe who has shown himself to be personal and
>approachable. Pleasure has become an addiction.
>7. The atheists peers would chastise him for abandoning the atheist
>faith. He would be mocked and take on the typical stigma of a
>Christian .
>8. Ones own family would mock him , disown him, or at least bring
>discomfort to his new found allegiance to God .
>9. The atheist doesnt want to be told what he can and cant do in
>life.
>10. The atheist is trapped by his own pride and ego...and feels a
>must to continue being defiant toward God . He hopes God somehow
>cant be real , so no accountability has to be given in the end.
Wow. Do you really believe that bullshit? Why?
Jimbo
> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> unacceptable to the christian?
>
> just wondering
It's most likely the 2,000 year history of bloodshed, torture, forced
conversions, and murder.
"I find it more than a little insane to think that the very
organization that professes "love thy neighbor" is also the same
organization whose members have invented the most criminally ingenious
torture devices known to man."
Duke Frederrick Scalppelli, 1679 Statement made after the civil
authorities brought
This is why chrstianity, nor any other religion, can never be allowed
to also wield the power of the civil goverment. They have proven
time and again that they cannot be trusted..
Jimbo
wrote:
> On Sep 29, 6:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > just wondering
>
> God :
Is a figment of your overactive imaginations. We fear the idiotic
fanatical followers, not the religion, and it is not possible to fear
that which doesn't exist.
Jimbo
wrote:
> On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
> > of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
> > religion.
>
> > -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
> > Liberty.-
> > Thomas Jefferson
>
> Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .
Bullshit.
Jimbo
wrote:
>
> > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > just wondering
>
> > to the lies of your religion.
>
> But not your religion of atheism
There is no such thing as a religion of atheism.
Jimbo
> On Sep 29, 10:35 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
> > > of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
> > > religion.
>
> > > -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
> > > Liberty.-
> > > Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> > there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .
>
You would think that if his "bible" where the basis for human rights,
we would have had human rights for the last 3,500 years or so.
Instead it has only been the last 2 or three centuries that human
rights have even been considered outside of a few bright spots in
earlier history. Ironically, the greatest advances in our human right
came after governments, particularly those in the West, separated from
religion, and tossed out the bible as the documentary basis for our
laws.
Look at the middle east for an example of what the west would still be
like without that separation.
Jimbo
> On Sep 29, 10:39 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
>
> > > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > > just wondering
>
> > > atheists 'fear' christianity.
>
> > > What a maroon.
>
> > > JohnN
>
> > A maroon is something red .
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I suspect that when Bugs called Taz a "maroon", he was probably saying
"Marroon", which is sort of a slang that was used almost exclusively
in New York as "Bowery Slang", which simply meant "thick" (As in
thick headed) This was a local slang, and outside of Bugs Bunny that
somewhat popularized its usage, as far as I know it never made it to
the status of ever becoming an English word.
Maroon, on the other hand, has a few different definitions, from my
search on dictionary.com.
Jimbo
> On Sep 29, 10:53 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 10:35 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
> > > > of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
> > > > religion.
>
> > > > -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
> > > > Liberty.-
> > > > Thomas Jefferson
>
> > > Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> > > there are absolute moral laws that are the basis for Human Rights .
>
> > If that were so, I should be able to buy beer on Sunday.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
It varies from county to county, but yes, in some areas you sitll
can't buy liquor on Sunday.
Jimbo
The first two have been found in civil laws that predate your bible.
Jimbo
It doesn't seem that you fear to lie very much, non-seeing idiot.
tirebiter
> On Sep 29, 10:43 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
>
> > > > Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> > > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
> > > > just wondering
>
> > > to the lies of your religion.
>
> > the faces on Mt. Rushmore to have arrived by the natural elements of
> > wind, sun, soil erosion, lightening strikes on rock, mud slides,
> > necessary charade to avoid acknowledging a personal Creator for a
> > personal Cosmos ?
>
> Mount Rushmore didn't live to see the idiocy you spout.
> They'd laugh their heads off and call you an imbecile.
Some might still be alive. The work was stopped in 1941.
I Guess this idiotic analogy is akin to Ray Comfort's inability to
distinguish a coke can in a forest as not being a part of nature.
They both suffer from the same error. If you only use superficial
observation and nothing else to determine the origin of something,
you've got a very small chance of being right.
---
a.a. #2273
Zacharias Mulletstein
"Prophet" <el...@priest.com> wrote in message
news:003d6587-0128-47d8...@i5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
> unacceptable to the christian?
Because they know its true deep down inside.
Ralph
> On Sep 29, 6:15 pm, Andre Lieven<andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Because Christianity has a very long track record of denying all sorts
>> of people their basic rights, including the right to NOT have a
>> religion.
>>
>> -In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to
>> Liberty.-
>> Thomas Jefferson
>
> Thats so funny what you said. It is the Bible and the fact that
> forefathers knew our rights, dignity, and intrinsic worth was due to
> being fashioned in the image of the Creator... and not some accidental
> burped up Pond Protozoa from DEAD chemicals in the atmosphere.
> Atheism doesnt have absolute moral laws...that is a Christian concept
> and a reality . You have the right to not have any religion if you
> like , but if youre a proclaimed atheist, then you too have a religion
> you follow....a secular religion which incorporates a worldview,
> constructs, tenets, and affirmative beliefs (secular humanism which
> is atheistic) .
Why do you think Jefferson thought that way, Davey?
Ralph
For one thing Assman, that last item isn't a moral law. For another you
need to understand that other societies had laws such as this,
independent of the bible. For a couple, have you ever heard of Confucius
or The Code of Hammurabi
Ralph
> On Sep 29, 6:35 pm, Ralph<mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/2010 7:03 PM, Prophet wrote:
>>
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>
>> Gee Assman, I didn't know atheists feared Christianity. We fear the
>> lying cheating followers of Christianity but have no animosity against
>> the religion.
>
> lived in defiance to God and his ways .
I know that this will be far beyond the capacity of your tiny brain to
handle but give it a shot anyway. Atheists probably fear death the least
of any group. We know that the only thing that death brings is eternal
rest. The process of death concerns us, as it should but not the fact of
death.
Ralph
> On Sep 30, 1:04 am, Uncle Vic<addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"<ilbeba...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> On Sep 29, 6:35 pm, Ralph<mmman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2010 7:03 PM, Prophet wrote:
>>
>>>>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>>>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>>>> just wondering
>>
>>>> Gee Assman, I didn't know atheists feared Christianity. We fear the
>>>> lying cheating followers of Christianity but have no animosity against
>>>> the religion.
>>
>>> Yes you do. And you fear death and the final tally for your life
>>> lived in defiance to God and his ways .
>>
>
> Thor was Seth.
> He threw the war hammer in battle with giants.
>
> Which Giants? The ones mentioned in the bible.
>
> More confirmation the bible is correct.
ROTFLMAO!! Yeah, that is about the pinnacle of confirmation that the
bible is correct.
Ralph
> On Sep 29, 6:35 pm, "skyey...@yahoo.com"<skyey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 4:03 pm, Prophet<el...@priest.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>> just wondering
>>
>>
>> We do, however, tend to be very wary of christians.
>>
>> BAAWA Knight
>> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
>> skyeyes nine at cox dot net
>
> They are a threat to your autonomy , as is anything that has to do
> with The Creator . You should be very wary of your pride and
> rebellion -- not Christians.
Ignorant fool.
Ralph
> On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, JohnN<jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>> just wondering
>>
>> atheists 'fear' christianity.
>>
>> What a maroon.
>>
>> JohnN
>
> A maroon is something red .
A maroon is a joke about a creationist who posted long ago. It might
even have been Assman.
Ralph
Poor Christians, the strength they have is all based on something that
is not on earth.
Ralph
> On Sep 29, 8:23 pm, Yap<hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 30 Sep, 06:03, Prophet<el...@priest.com> wrote:
>>
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>> just wondering
>>
>> to the lies of your religion.
>
> But not your religion of atheism that would believe it possible for
> the faces on Mt. Rushmore to have arrived by the natural elements of
> wind, sun, soil erosion, lightening strikes on rock, mud slides,
> time, chance, and luck ??? Does this sound mature to you , or, a
> necessary charade to avoid acknowledging a personal Creator for a
> personal Cosmos ?
No, that doesn't sound mature. Sounds like the statement of a damn fool.
Ralph
> On Sep 30, 12:49 am, Uncle Vic<addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, Prophet<el...@priest.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>> just wondering
>>
>> Could it be their fear that we might just be right?
>>
>> --
>> Uncle Vic
>> aa Atheist #2011
>>
>> "Salvation is NOT dependent on whether we recieved
>> forgiveness from another person."
>> --Dimwit Dave (IllBeBauk) 9/27/10
>
> have not apologized for.
That is called a mistake, you god damn fool. Learn the difference
between the two.
Ralph
> On Sep 30, 2:04 am, Devils Advocaat<mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 30 Sep, 00:03, Prophet<el...@priest.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>>> just wondering
>>
>> but what annoys the atheist (and Christian alike) are fools that
>> parrot the lies of others against the warning given by St Augustine:
>>
>> http://www.pibburns.com/augustin.htm]
>
> Every big organization will have their renegades
>
>
>>
>> In response to your post, it would seem if I read what you have posted
>> correctly that would be a good reason for creationists to fear
>> atheists, if by counter-logic you mean logic that creationists find
>> unacceptable as it exposes the falsity of their own "logic".
>
> No. Counter logic is evolution. It goes against everything bit of
> logic we observe taking place on this planet,
>
> Therefore, their desperation to pair evolution with science is
> unacceptable to the christian. Christians and christianity expose this
> counter logic and THAT is why they fear Christianity.
>
>
:-))))))))).
Christopher A. Lee
I suggest you check your knowledge of popular culture.
Prophet
Lookie there! 10 double chins!
Prophet
one right answer in 90 posts
Devils Advocaat
> On 30 Sep, 10:35, AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 2:04 am, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On 30 Sep, 00:03, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>
> > > > unacceptable to the christian?
>
>
> > > In response to your subject line, atheists don't fear Christianity,
> > > but what annoys the atheist (and Christian alike) are fools that
> > > parrot the lies of others against the warning given by St Augustine:
>
> > >http://www.pibburns.com/augustin.htm]
>
> > Every big organization will have their renegades
>
> admitting that you and your ilk are the renegades of Christianity?
>
>
>
> > > In response to your post, it would seem if I read what you have posted
> > > correctly that would be a good reason for creationists to fear
> > > atheists, if by counter-logic you mean logic that creationists find
> > > unacceptable as it exposes the falsity of their own "logic".
>
> > No. Counter logic is evolution. It goes against everything bit of
> > logic we observe taking place on this planet,
>
>
> You would know this if you understood logic.
>
>
>
> > Therefore, their desperation to pair evolution with science is
> > unacceptable to the christian.
>
> You do not have the authority to speak for all Christians on this
> matter.
>
> The only Christians that find evolution unacceptable are the
> creationists and other minority fundamentalists.
>
> > Christians and christianity expose this
> > counter logic and THAT is why they fear Christianity.
>
> atheists.
>
> After all you and your ilk have continually failed to even demonstrate
> that the theory of evolution is wrong.
Curious how my previous post has been rated by a number of users as
poor and how maddy's post to which I was responding has been rated by
a similar number of users as excellent.
tirebiter
Except they wouldn'be atheists then, would they?
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His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
Doc Smartass
46cd-aa7c-a...@p26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
> But[head]
Yes, you are.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
"Just when you think you've seen stupid, along comes religion." - J.L.
Doc Smartass
4a95-85e8-3...@f26g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
> T[ard]
Yup, you are.
Doc Smartass
4a11-8b7b-d...@a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:
> T[CENSORED]
You're a ranting imbecile.
Doc Smartass
4f42-9a2d-8...@c16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 29, 7:03 pm, Prophet <el...@priest.com> wrote:
>> Could it be their desperation to pair counter-logic with science is
>> unacceptable to the christian?
>>
>> just wondering
>
> For the same reason that we fear rabies and Montezuma's revenge.
Hmmm. I had a hickie from a religious chick once...you think if the'd
broken the skin I'd have religion? =0
Seems to me a good case of Montezuma's should clean out even religion.
One of those "Everything MUST GO!" deals. It'd be cool if it worked like
that.
"Doctor, my son Dave is a religious idiot."
"Have him eat two Taco Bell 'chalupas' and call me in two days."