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Andrew

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Oct 7, 2016, 12:43:15 AM10/7/16
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1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
pattern; it possesses a code, a language,
and an information storage mechanism.

2) All codes are created and developed by
a *conscious mind*. There is no natural
process known to science that creates
information in code format.

3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
designed and created by a most awesome
super-intelligent entity. He in our Creator.




Andrew

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Oct 7, 2016, 2:18:24 AM10/7/16
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"Bob Officer" wrote in message news:9p421n....@news.alt.net...
> I guess you never listened the recording of a
> millisecond pulsar?

I heard the Vela pulsar. Which one do you like?

> Delusions abound when it comes to religion.

Yes, consider what the religionists did to Jesus.

They murdered Him.

He was innocent.


bil...@m.nu

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Oct 7, 2016, 7:54:20 AM10/7/16
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:43:11 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
Did your god really create people with a code that would lead to a
linage that is as stupid as yours>

Tom McDonald

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Oct 7, 2016, 4:26:20 PM10/7/16
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A. DNA is a molecule.

B. A molecule made of chemicals.

C. Chemicals that arose by stellar nucleosynthesis over billions of years.

D. Therefore your silly belief is silly. And boring. So fucking boring.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 7, 2016, 4:32:32 PM10/7/16
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He's got nothing bit baseless assertions, most of which are false.

Like most creationists (all?), he doesn't seem to understand that
science researches and discovers _how_ it happened.

So that if there actually is a god, that is _how_ it did it.

It's like saying...

"A dropped pebble doesn't fall to the ground with a constant rate of
acceleration due to gravity - my god does it".

Andrew

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Oct 7, 2016, 7:07:43 PM10/7/16
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"Tom McDonald" wrote in message news:nt90cs$6ng$1...@dont-email.me...
> On 10/6/2016 11:43 PM, Andrew wrote:
>> 1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
>> pattern; it possesses a code, a language,
>> and an information storage mechanism.
>>
>> 2) All codes are created and developed by
>> a *conscious mind*. There is no natural
>> process known to science that creates
>> information in code format.
>>
>> 3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
>> designed and created by a most awesome
>> super-intelligent entity. He in our Creator.
>>
> A. DNA is a molecule.
>
> B. A molecule made of chemicals.
>
> C. Chemicals that arose by stellar nucleosynthesis
> over billions of years.

Did you think that the information in code format
as there is_in_the DNA molecule ~also~ arose by
stellar nucleosynthesis?

Information is an immaterial entity which cannot be
created by molecules. The information that defines
life forms existed first and then DNA which carries
that information was created afterward.

DNA has information that is stored and retrieved for
a functional, observable purpose. This complies with
linguistics law. These immaterial properties *cannot*
be produced by that which is material only.

It is absolutely impossible for 'nature by itself' to be
the creator of DNA. Science here has thus shown us
that life is "unquestionably and unequivocally" the
product of an intelligent and supernatural causation.

This is clear, positive and unequivocal evidence for
anyone who is honest, and who wants to know the
truth. We have a most awesome Creator ---> God.

>
> D. Therefore your silly belief is silly. And boring.
> So fucking boring.

Yet it is verily the truth.


Andrew

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Oct 7, 2016, 7:08:52 PM10/7/16
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<bil...@m.nu> wrote in message news:b53fvb9jdvphfgq07...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
>>1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
>> pattern; it possesses a code, a language,
>> and an information storage mechanism.
>>
>>2) All codes are created and developed by
>> a *conscious mind*. There is no natural
>> process known to science that creates
>> information in code format.
>>
>>3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
>> designed and created by a most awesome
>> super-intelligent entity. He in our Creator.
>
> Did your god really create people with a code
> that would lead to a linage that is as stupid as
> yours

We were born in a Fallen world.

This is the last generation since
the Fall.

The human race has experienced
*devolution* since the Fall.

Which means that we have been
going downhill genetically.



Tom McDonald

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Oct 7, 2016, 7:32:09 PM10/7/16
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On 10/7/2016 6:07 PM, Andrew wrote:
> "Tom McDonald" wrote in message news:nt90cs$6ng$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 10/6/2016 11:43 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>> 1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
>>> pattern; it possesses a code, a language,
>>> and an information storage mechanism.
>>>
>>> 2) All codes are created and developed by
>>> a *conscious mind*. There is no natural
>>> process known to science that creates
>>> information in code format.
>>>
>>> 3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
>>> designed and created by a most awesome
>>> super-intelligent entity. He in our Creator.
>>>
>> A. DNA is a molecule.
>>
>> B. A molecule made of chemicals.
>>
>> C. Chemicals that arose by stellar nucleosynthesis
>> over billions of years.
>
> Did you think that the information in code format
> as there is_in_the DNA molecule ~also~ arose by
> stellar nucleosynthesis?

Yup. And it was organized by well-known chemical, physical laws.

> Information is an immaterial entity which cannot be
> created by molecules. The information that defines
> life forms existed first and then DNA which carries
> that information was created afterward.

By chemical laws. No intelligence necessary.

> DNA has information that is stored and retrieved for
> a functional, observable purpose. This complies with
> linguistics law. These immaterial properties *cannot*
> be produced by that which is material only.
>
> It is absolutely impossible for 'nature by itself' to be
> the creator of DNA. Science here has thus shown us
> that life is "unquestionably and unequivocally" the
> product of an intelligent and supernatural causation.
>
> This is clear, positive and unequivocal evidence for
> anyone who is honest, and who wants to know the
> truth. We have a most awesome Creator ---> God.

No, it's clear, positive and unequivocal evidence for your god-bothering
having fucked your brain.

>> D. Therefore your silly belief is silly. And boring.
>> So fucking boring.
>
> Yet it is verily the truth.
>
Prove it. With actual facts. You have never done it in all your time
here; I do not expect you to have gotten smarter and more informed in
the meantime.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 7, 2016, 7:52:41 PM10/7/16
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It's truly pathetic he has been given examples from abiogenesis
research, where proto cells formed in the lab by duplicating natural
processes, evolved nucleic acids over subsequent generations when the
originals were formed without them.

Even if he really is too stupid to understand this, he knows that his
nonsense is hotly contested - yet he treats it as if it were
undisputed fact.

>>> D. Therefore your silly belief is silly. And boring.
>>> So fucking boring.
>>
>> Yet it is verily the truth.

Any time a religionist calls what are merely his religious beliefs
"truth", they are lying.

bil...@m.nu

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Oct 7, 2016, 8:46:52 PM10/7/16
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:08:47 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
Thank you for admitting that you are a complete moron and have no hope
of anything in life <or death>

Smiler

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Oct 7, 2016, 8:51:44 PM10/7/16
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:08:47 -0700, Andrew wrote:

> <bil...@m.nu> wrote in message
> news:b53fvb9jdvphfgq07...@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>
>>>1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
>>> pattern; it possesses a code, a language, and an information
>>> storage mechanism.
>>>
>>>2) All codes are created and developed by
>>> a *conscious mind*. There is no natural process known to science
>>> that creates information in code format.
>>>
>>>3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
>>> designed and created by a most awesome super-intelligent entity.
>>> He in our Creator.
>>
>> Did your god really create people with a code that would lead to a
>> linage that is as stupid as yours
>
> We were born in a Fallen world.

Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.

> This is the last generation since the Fall.

Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.

> The human race has experienced *devolution* since the Fall.

Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.

> Which means that we have been going downhill genetically.

Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.

Have you nothing better?

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

dale

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Oct 7, 2016, 8:55:16 PM10/7/16
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did the Human Genome Project map consciousness "fully" map consciousness?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genome_Project

if not, I don't think Philosophical Dualism of the Mind is satisfied
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism_(philosophy_of_mind)

don't think this was a qualified retort, wasn't meant to be, just adding
some considerations

--
dale | http://www.dalekelly.org

Smiler

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Oct 7, 2016, 8:58:58 PM10/7/16
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I suspect that the opposite is true; He has gotten stupider and less
informed in the meantime.

W.T.S., 9-n-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

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Oct 8, 2016, 2:17:24 AM10/8/16
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"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote in
news:ZIqdncdrtN9Ft2XK...@earthlink.com:

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-to-
creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

< https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ibEaIPtMk>

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

W.T.S., 9-n-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

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Oct 8, 2016, 2:24:01 AM10/8/16
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W.T.S., 9-n-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

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Oct 8, 2016, 2:25:51 AM10/8/16
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"Andrew86" <andrew...@usa.net> Farted out in news, again:

W.T.S., 9-n-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

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Oct 8, 2016, 2:29:23 AM10/8/16
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"Andrew86" <andrew.8...@Lying.Bozo> defecated in news, again:

W.T.S., 9-n-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*

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Oct 8, 2016, 2:37:23 AM10/8/16
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"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote in
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Nope, "Andrew86" still hasn't educated himself:

Andrew

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Oct 8, 2016, 4:50:34 AM10/8/16
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"Smiler" wrote in message news:nt9fus$aka$3...@gioia.aioe.org...
> Andrew wrote:
>> <bil...@m.nu> wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>
>>>>1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
>>>> pattern; it possesses a code, a language, and an information
>>>> storage mechanism.
>>>>
>>>>2) All codes are created and developed by
>>>> a *conscious mind*. There is no natural process known to science
>>>> that creates information in code format.
>>>>
>>>>3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
>>>> designed and created by a most awesome super-intelligent entity.
>>>> He in our Creator.
>>>
>>> Did your god really create people with a code that would lead to a
>>> linage that is as stupid as yours
>>
>> We were born in a Fallen world.
>
> Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.
>
>> This is the last generation since the Fall.
>
> Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.
>
>> The human race has experienced *devolution* since the Fall.
>
> Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.
>
>> Which means that we have been going downhill genetically.
>
> Merely your stupid unevidenced belief.

No, rather based upon solid evidence:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html

http://www.cell.com/trends/genetics/pdf/S0168-9525(12)00194-1.pdf


Andrew

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Oct 8, 2016, 4:54:02 AM10/8/16
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<bil...@m.nu> wrote in message news:ieggvb51b6f7ouk71...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>><bil...@m.nu> wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>
>>>>1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a
>>>> pattern; it possesses a code, a language,
>>>> and an information storage mechanism.
>>>>
>>>>2) All codes are created and developed by
>>>> a *conscious mind*. There is no natural
>>>> process known to science that creates
>>>> information in code format.
>>>>
>>>>3) Therefore these facts show that DNA was
>>>> designed and created by a most awesome
>>>> super-intelligent entity. He in our Creator.
>>>
>>> Did your god really create people with a code
>>> that would lead to a linage that is as stupid as
>>> yours
>>
>>We were born in a Fallen world.
>>
>>This is the last generation since
>>the Fall.
>>
>>The human race has experienced
>>*devolution* since the Fall.
>>
>>Which means that we have been
>>going downhill genetically.

===

> Thank you for admitting that you
> are a complete moron and have no
> hope of anything in life <or death>


I perceive that my words went way
over your head.

If you have a question, please don't
be afraid to ask; rather than making
a fool out of yourself.


bil...@m.nu

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Oct 8, 2016, 8:37:05 AM10/8/16
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 01:53:57 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
Problem is you dont even know what you said, I mean after all you are
a retarded theist that believes in fairies

Smiler

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Oct 8, 2016, 1:05:35 PM10/8/16
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No evidence there, merely opinion.
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