Coffee Thread II: The Recurrence
Rodger Donaldson
<dsda...@DSDAPC03.okladot.state.ok.us> wrote:
>Paul Joslin used the following in his .sig:
>
> YOU KNOW YOU'RE TOO STRESSED IF...
> You wonder if brewing is really a necessary step for the
> consumption of coffee.
>
>Silly question. Ever hear of chocolate-covered coffee beans?
>Of course you did. Now go sit in the corner.
At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
--
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n0 sPaM
> YOU KNOW YOU'RE TOO STRESSED IF...
> You wonder if brewing is really a necessary step for the
> consumption of coffee.
>
> Silly question. Ever hear of chocolate-covered coffee beans?
Ooh. Chocolate-covered carbonated coffee beans. MmmMmmMMMmmMMmMmMMMmmMm.
Replace `nospam' in my address to write me
Paul Thomas
In article <slrn70isn8....@orwell.weta.dyn.ml.org>,
Rodger Donaldson <rod...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
No. It was real coffee. And it worked, kind of. At least, it was
a rush -- although hyperventilation may have contributed there.
-- paul
[1] We have a small (very) team of Unix bods at the looniversity where
I work. We have no VMS bods. Guess what platform supports most of
our academics and postgraduates? Sigh.
Peter Gutmann
rod...@ihug.co.nz (Rodger Donaldson) writes:
>On 23 Sep 1998 13:14:50 GMT, Mike Andrews
><dsda...@DSDAPC03.okladot.state.ok.us> wrote:
>>Paul Joslin used the following in his .sig:
>>
>> YOU KNOW YOU'RE TOO STRESSED IF...
>> You wonder if brewing is really a necessary step for the
>> consumption of coffee.
>>
>>Silly question. Ever hear of chocolate-covered coffee beans?
>>Of course you did. Now go sit in the corner.
>At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
StN once tried snorting NoDoz[0]. He ate instant. One of his ex-grapefruit
complained that when he kissed her it tasted like coffee, and told him to
choose between her and coffee. He chose coffee.
Peter.
[0] "Snorting NoDoz was not a happening scene".
Andreas Buzh Skau
>Rodger Donaldson <rod...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>> At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
>
>sinuses, one should at least do it in style. It shouldn't be too tough
>to find some decent beans and a bean grinder.
Anybody with a degree in chemics want to make some crystalized coffe for
snorting/dropping/smoking?
>My SO recently, upon hearing my complaints that I was craving coffee,
>made the mistake of offering me some instant that his roommate had in the
>cupboard.
Now, now. Instant isn't all that bad.
In fact, a couple of spoonfulls in a box of Battery [0] will do wonders for
ones alertness.
Buzh
[0] ~130mG caffeine, ~210KJ / 350mL, before the instant is applied.
http://www.fjortis.net/yatzee/ - Skien Yatzeeforening
Andreas Skau [a...@nospam.tim.no],
Leif Nixon
> Then I explained to him that I refused touch, or even
> acknowledge, anything with the word "instant" in its
> description.
Reminds me of when I was totally out-boggled when a friend
of mine told me of the American concept of "instant
oatmeal". Jhesus, what's the point?
Didn't take more than six months before it turned up in
Sweden, though.
--
Leif Nixon Rational SoftLab
-------------------------------------------------
E-mail: ni...@softlab.se Phone: +46 13 23 57 61
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Andrew Snare
Peter> StN once tried snorting NoDoz[0]. He ate instant. One of
Peter> his ex-grapefruit complained that when he kissed her it
Peter> tasted like coffee, and told him to choose between her and
Peter> coffee. He chose coffee.
On the school bus a few years back one of the guys was convinced that
snorting chilli-powder wouldn't be that bad. It was 20min to the next
stop after he did that. If he hadn't been an asshole maybe I would've
felt sorry for him. Instead I ended up chuckling to myself the entire
20min, and then a little bit after. It was definitely a sight to see. :)
- Andrew
--
no .sig
Rodger Donaldson
>In article <slrn70isn8....@orwell.weta.dyn.ml.org>,
>Rodger Donaldson <rod...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
>
My apologies for this slur on your manhood...
>And it worked, kind of.
Yeah, but not well enough for you to ever be cajoled into it again...
>[1] We have a small (very) team of Unix bods at the looniversity where
>I work. We have no VMS bods. Guess what platform supports most of
>our academics and postgraduates? Sigh.
Be thankful. *Your* VMS herd has been running, what, a year now with no
admin? We, on the other hand, are dependant on head office to keep sundry
VMS boxen going, and lose one every week or two. Not Good.
And I shouldn't even go into the KL disaster...
--
Rodger Donaldson rod...@ihug.co.nz
"How do I set my laser printer for stun?"
- William Tansil
Charlie Stross
on Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:17:01 +1200,Rodger Donaldson
the supplicant <rod...@ihug.co.nz> implored:
>At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
Uh, would that be:
J|C>N ?
(for values of J == "Jar")
The semantics could probably do with working on ...
-- Charlie
Rodger Donaldson
>Rodger Donaldson <rod...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>> At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
>
>Now that's a little much! Instant!? If one is going to destroy one's
>sinuses, one should at least do it in style. It shouldn't be too tough
>to find some decent beans and a bean grinder.
Paul has corrected me - it was The Real Thing. It still didn't sound like
much fun.
Hmm. Which reminds me...
[rodgerd@orwell rodgerd]$ head /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Coffee
COFFEE-HOWTO
Georgatos Photis, <g...@ceid.upatras.gr>
v0.5, 15 January 1998
One of the most bothering remarks on software, I have ever heard, is
weather this or that thing can make coffee. So, Linux DOES make cof
fee. And it tastes good, instead!
Good to see some *ix traditions of sillyness live on.
--
Rodger Donaldson rod...@ihug.co.nz
"Are you prepared to meet your maker,
and ask for your money back?"
Jenny With the Axe
>StN once tried snorting NoDoz[0]. He ate instant. One of his ex-grapefruit
>complained that when he kissed her it tasted like coffee, and told him to
>choose between her and coffee. He chose coffee.
I would prefer having my SO tasting of coffee to having him taste of
cigarettes. But maybe that's just me...
--
Jenny With the Axe (and the Temper) http://www.algonet.se/~jenny-h/
Goddess of delusions
"Scary, isn't it? A naked man running around looking for a sheep"
Edward J. Powell
:
: My SO recently, upon hearing my complaints that I was craving coffee,
: made the mistake of offering me some instant that his roommate had in the
: of my particular kitchen cupboard that is full of real coffee. Then I
: explained to him that I refused touch, or even acknowledge, anything with
: the word "instant" in its description.
: I think he's learned.
Ah, but it's a decision between caffeine now and no caffenine for [insert
timeperiod here], instant will do in a pinch.
Now, Postum... that stuff scares the hell out of me.
--
Ed Powell -- Twilight Zone Reject
http://www.visi.com/~epowell Finger for PGP public key
"When SysAdmins Attack!" This Sunday, on Fox.
void
>
>On the school bus a few years back one of the guys was convinced that
>snorting chilli-powder wouldn't be that bad. It was 20min to the next
>stop after he did that. If he hadn't been an asshole maybe I would've
>felt sorry for him. Instead I ended up chuckling to myself the entire
>20min, and then a little bit after. It was definitely a sight to see. :)
And you're not going to describe the luser's reaction for the enjoyment of
the group?
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
rich
A friend of mine with a penchant for cultivating and crafting his own
hot sauces (he had a garden with a variety of peppers and other fire
producing things) related a story to me one time about a company dinner
at a steakhouse.
Apparently a PHB who was at the meeting had to "prove" to everyone that
he was able to handle his hot sauces so he grabbed a bottle of Dave's
Insanity and proceeded to lather his corn-fed Porterhouse with this
liquid fire. He then cut a piece and popped it into his mouth.
An hour later, he regained consciousness in the back seat of a
cow-orker's car. Further Deponent Sayeth Not.
--
Fortune vomits on my eiderdown yet again.
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<jec...@rtfm.netset.com> writes
> Then I
>explained to him that I refused touch, or even acknowledge, anything with
>the word "instant" in its description.
Could be worse - the I-word could be conjoined to the D-word.
Reminds me of the time I drove nonstop[1] up to Edinburgh to
look into a major network-failure. On arrival the ueberluser
of the site concerned noticed my somewhat fraggled state,
and announced:
"Bet you'd like a coffee: is Decaffeinated OK?"
I was within an electron's-width of getting straight back in
the car...
[1]350 miles or so, but part of it is enjoyably-twisty roads.
--
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I'm only plucking pheasants 'cause the pheasant-plucker's late"
Peter da Silva
Charlie Stross <charlie @ nospam . antipope . org> wrote:
>Uh, would that be:
>J|C>N ?
C|N>S
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <pe...@baileynm.com>
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'U`
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Q Stephens
:>In article <36098...@athena.netset.com>, Rebecca Gray
:><jec...@rtfm.netset.com> writes
:>> Then I
:>>explained to him that I refused touch, or even acknowledge, anything with
:>>the word "instant" in its description.
:>
:>Could be worse - the I-word could be conjoined to the D-word.
:>
:>Reminds me of the time I drove nonstop[1] up to Edinburgh to
:>look into a major network-failure. On arrival the ueberluser
:>of the site concerned noticed my somewhat fraggled state,
:>and announced:
:>
:>"Bet you'd like a coffee: is Decaffeinated OK?"
:>
:>I was within an electron's-width of getting straight back in
:>the car...
I'm not surprised at your reaction: fsck the decaf - they offered you
*coffee*?! Something 'medicinal' should have been the order of the
day.
qts
Usenet users, please reverse the elements of my given address to get my real one.
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
Stephens <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes
Nice idea, but i knew i had to drive back afterwards...(and
howling down the A.68[1] at high speed at night is something
best enjoyed sober)
[1]main road from Edinburgh to Newcastle. Lots of nice blind
crests and sharp bends. Every few miles there are signs saying
things like "84 people killed on this road since 1996"
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.html
"...No, you fool! Botticelli isn't a wine, Botticelli's a *cheese*!..."
Q Stephens
:>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:57:48 GMT, Edward J. Powell <epo...@visi.com> wrote:
:>
:>>Ah, but it's a decision between caffeine now and no caffenine for [insert
:>>timeperiod here], instant will do in a pinch.
:>
:>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
:>rather than instant.
<UI>
Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
</UI>
Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink. Top hole, even.
Adam J. Thornton
Peter Gutmann <pgu...@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>StN once tried snorting NoDoz[0]. He ate instant. One of his ex-grapefruit
BT,DT.
It works fine. For sufficiently painful values of "fine."
But you *are* awake afterwards.
Adam
[0] NMF
--
ad...@princeton.edu
"There's a border to somewhere waiting, and a tank full of time." - J. Steinman
Rodger Donaldson
>Ah, but it's a decision between caffeine now and no caffenine for [insert
>timeperiod here], instant will do in a pinch.
Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
rather than instant.
--
Rodger Donaldson rod...@ihug.co.nz
I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public
Andrew Snare
Me> On the school bus a few years back one of the guys was convinced
Me> that snorting chilli-powder wouldn't be that bad. It was 20min
Me> to the next stop after he did that. If he hadn't been an asshole
Me> maybe I would've felt sorry for him. Instead I ended up
Me> chuckling to myself the entire 20min, and then a little bit
Me> after. It was definitely a sight to see. :)
Ben> And you're not going to describe the luser's reaction for the
Ben> enjoyment of the group?
From memory I think he became a little violent. No-one was game to be
within a metre or so of him (which causes problems on a crowded school
bus). However, that could be due to the amount of mucus he managed to
extract from his nose (while in obvious pain) and deposit on the
various seats in his immediate vicinity. In nice little piles (dare I
say "slag heaps"? Ooh..not quite:). I distinctly recall being amazed
at how much mucus[cluck] there was up his nose.
Amazingly, there was no reaction from the driver. But then again, this
kind of thing really wasn't that unusual for our bus.
Jenny With the Axe
>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>rather than instant.
Instant mixed in hot chocolate will do, though. For some reason my
cow-orkers find this weird.
--
Jenny With the Axe (and the Temper) http://www.algonet.se/~jenny-h/
Goddess of delusions
"Scary, isn't it? A naked man running around looking for a sheep..."
Rodger Donaldson
>rod...@ihug.co.nz (Rodger Donaldson) writes:
>
>>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
>>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>>rather than instant.
>
>Instant mixed in hot chocolate will do, though. For some reason my
>cow-orkers find this weird.
I did once try instant and Milo[1]. Didn't really think that much of it.
[1] Instant hot chocolate, basically.
--
Rodger Donaldson rod...@ihug.co.nz
"What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people have
stopped banging their heads against?"
Rodger Donaldson
>On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:43:07 +1200, Rodger Donaldson wrote:
>:>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
>:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>:>rather than instant.
>
><UI>
>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
></UI>
Depends on the tea leaf and preparation. More to the point, I like the
*taste* of coffee. If I just wanted caffiene, I could gobble no-doze.
>Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink.
Says you.
--
Rodger Donaldson rod...@ihug.co.nz
"I don't see what all the fuss is about. She was just an unemployed
kindergarten teacher".
- on Diana, Princess of Wales
Måns Nilsson
>rod...@ihug.co.nz (Rodger Donaldson) writes:
>
>>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>>rather than instant.
>
>cow-orkers find this weird.
I tried this in military service (which I left rather quickly, for pacifistic
reasons.) It seemed ok in a pinch there and then, but compared to The Real Thing
it fell flat to the ground.
On the other hand, I can see where this comes from. (in the case of Jenny)
There is no coffee culture in Sweden north of the Scanian border. Even though
we consume more coffee in this country per capita than any other land in the world
apart from Finland, the main part off the consumption seems to take place in
Scania[0] because the "coffee" in the north looks like tea. Not as catastrophic as
US coffee, but barely drinkable.
Zoégas[1], please take over the others! Make them do what they claim!
--
Måns Nilsson Unixtekniker
icq 14169016 GSM 070 8344045
All these footnotes are not to be regarded as present by swedes.
[0] Southmost province in Sweden.
[1] Only coffee-producing company in Sweden. The others make tea.
Leif Nixon
> There is no coffee culture in Sweden north of the Scanian
> border. Even though we consume more coffee in this country
> per capita than any other land in the world apart from
> Finland, the main part off the consumption seems to take
> place in Scania[0] because the "coffee" in the north looks
> like tea. Not as catastrophic as US coffee, but barely
> drinkable.
Rubbish. You've obviously never tasted laplandish 'kokkaffe'
with coffee cheese and salt stirred in.
Jeff Gostin
2:15 in the morning.]
Rebecca Gray <jec...@rtfm.netset.com> wrote:
: Now that's a little much! Instant!?
Instant coffee is the NT of the Coffee World. Yech. No thanks. :)
My favorite pure bean is Sumatran. Good stuff, and not terribly expensive
(~$9/lb, US). Grind on the finer side of ADC[0] for the stronger cup. Drink
straight. Enjoy.
What can I say? I'm a coffee snob. Columbian is too... pedestrian for me,
though I'll drink the stuff if it's all that's available. Other preferences,
all in the $8 - $10/LB range:
- Guatamalan
- Kenya AA
- Costa Rican
- Jamaican Blue (YUM!, but -damn-, it's -expensive-, $50-$75/LB).
You think, with the nice PHB/SalesDweeb/Marketdroid perks
companies[1] give out, they could buy some decent fscking coffee... Not this
dirt-cheap No-Name-Coffee-in-a-packet crap. If we worshipped the
chicken^W^W^Wdid our jobs with the same attention to detail that they used
when buying coffee....
... oh wait. Nevermind. We have active braincells. Forgive me. A momentary
lapse of insanity.
--J
[0] Automatic Drip Coffee... you have no idea how many lusers^Wpeople would
ask me what this meant back in my barista days. Now _there_ was a fun job.
[1] Now, if you don't work for one of said companies, I suppose you're lucky
to even -get- coffee. :)
Matt McLeod
Q Stephens <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:43:07 +1200, Rodger Donaldson wrote:
>
>:>
>:>>Ah, but it's a decision between caffeine now and no caffenine for [insert
>:>>timeperiod here], instant will do in a pinch.
>:>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
>:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>:>rather than instant.
>
>
>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
>
></UI>
>
I quite agree (at least with the second part - I've no idea
what the relative caffeine content of various teas and coffees
are). Perhaps I'm just a heretic, but generally I prefer tea
to coffee.
Of course, the fact that around here we have nice tea[1] and crap
coffee[2] might have something to do with it.
Matt
[1] various Twinings and Dilmah stuff
[2] el-cheapo Nescafe. can't stand the stuff
--
Matt McLeod "A baseball cap and a love of rap
A BOFH for all seasons might need sympathy but still
<m...@natasha.apana.org.au> possibly a homeboy could be
http://203.56.191.14/~mjm/ a dickhead pure and simple?"
TISM
Matt McLeod
Rodger Donaldson <rod...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>On 25 Sep 1998 06:58:01 +0200, Jenny With the Axe <jen...@algonet.se> wrote:
>>rod...@ihug.co.nz (Rodger Donaldson) writes:
>>
>>>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>>>rather than instant.
>>
>>cow-orkers find this weird.
>
>
>[1] Instant hot chocolate, basically.
Isn't Milo a malted chocolate thing? Might do better with straight
cocoa instead.
--
Matt McLeod "A satisfied customer?
A BOFH for all seasons We ought to have him stuffed!"
<m...@natasha.apana.org.au> Basil Fawlty
http://203.56.191.14/~mjm/
Martin Hylerstedt
> In <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk> "Q Stephens" <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes:
> And if you're drinking tea it'd better be a herbal one or a semi-toxic green
> chinese tea (Nicolai drinks one which smells a *lot* like creosote).
Lapsang Souchong, perchance?
Here at w*rk we have just those fruity little teabags, or
Hazardous Material(tm) coffee, but that's the way I like my
coffee. And none of that "let's meet and have a chat over a cup
of coffee"! Coffe should be consumed at a steady pace at the desk.
Maybe I should unrecover back to my former place of work
(nursing academy) and snatch an IV stand...
Calle Dybedahl
> [1] The company which also sells radioactive LSD.
*boggle* Why? I mean, what could you possibly use it for that cyanide
wouldn't do just as well?
--
Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
qdt...@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
Chris Richardson
>par...@kairos.algonet.se (Par Leijonhufvud) writes:
>
>> [1] The company which also sells radioactive LSD.
>
>*boggle* Why? I mean, what could you possibly use it for that cyanide
>wouldn't do just as well?
Apologies in advance. I'm a pharmacist, so I can't help saying things
like this.
You'd use radioactive LSD for doing pharmacokinetic, pharmacodynamic or
other (cell transport etc.) studies where you didn't have a reliable or
sensitive enough assay for LSD or you wanted to look at metabolites of
the stuff. You just collect the various samples at the end of the
experiment, homogenise them, measure the radioactivity and - correcting
for decay, of course - work out what happened to the LSD you put into the
rat/rabbit/luser/cell culture system.
Radioactive LSD wouldn't be much of a lart. Depending on the isotope
you're working with (I'd guess an isotope of carbon, or possibly
tritium), you'd have to put so much LSD into someone to have an effect
due to the radioactivity that the length of their trip could be measured
in millennia. LSD is quite active stuff. Bloody active stuff.
<Sigh> Professional drivel over with.
foop
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-- Dr. Internet
Jonathan Guthrie
> [1]main road from Edinburgh to Newcastle. Lots of nice blind
> crests and sharp bends. Every few miles there are signs saying
> things like "84 people killed on this road since 1996"
Is there a place to take a ticket before you enter that road? If so,
do NOT take the little tag that says "85".
--
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Alex Madden
>In <s9v3e9g...@ide.hk-r.se> Martin Hylerstedt <m...@ide.hk-r.se> writes:
>>Lapsang Souchong, perchance?
>
>Indeed - he gets strange looks when people smell what he is drinking.
>
>>of coffee"! Coffe should be consumed at a steady pace at the desk.
>
>is no *way* I'm going to touch the brown-water-Nestle-made crap they give us
>as "coffee". I've got an emergancy pot of Cafe Direct instant sitting in my
>desk draw just in case I run out of real coffee (which has happened once
>before when the cow-orkers I share the coffee machine forgot to buy more
>coffee and I wasn't going to buy any more for a while). Cafe Direct is probably
>the only instant I'll actually drink (rather than watering the nearest plant
>with it as I would do for pretty much all of the other instants out there)
>as it actually tastes of decent coffee rather than dark brown water. Even
>better, its a Fair Trade product (I try to use Fair Trade products were ever
>possible - it not only makes sense from an ethical point of view, the products
>often taste a *lot* better than their non-Fair Trade equivalents).
I said this last time, I was wondering where I could say it again. Beat me
too it, Hot Java Lava [1] is my most recent discovery, OK about 18 months
ago.
Alex
[1] Taylors of Harrogate, very strong, Tesco sells it.
--
"In a world without fences, who needs Gates?" - Scott McNealy
Eric The Read
> In <s9v3e9g...@ide.hk-r.se> Martin Hylerstedt <m...@ide.hk-r.se> writes:
> >Lapsang Souchong, perchance?
>
> Indeed - he gets strange looks when people smell what he is drinking.
That stuff's become my 2nd tier Tea Of Choice(tm). This really great
green tea I picked up the last (and so far, only) time I was in San
Francisco's Chinatown is the first, but I ration myself very strictly
with that, since I have no idea when I'll be able to get more.
> Even better, its a Fair Trade product (I try to use Fair Trade products
> were ever possible - it not only makes sense from an ethical point of
> view, the products often taste a *lot* better than their non-Fair Trade
> equivalents).
What's Fair Trade? Sounds something like organic, except over here, the
word `organic' is very fuzzy, and can refer to something with no more
than a passing acquaintance with mulch.
-=Eric
Q Stephens
:>In article <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk>, Q
:>Stephens <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes
:>>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:31:48 +0100, Tanuki the Raccoon-dog wrote:
:>>:>I was within an electron's-width of getting straight back in
:>>:>the car...
:>>
:>>I'm not surprised at your reaction: fsck the decaf - they offered you
:>>*coffee*?! Something 'medicinal' should have been the order of the
:>>day.
:>
:>Nice idea, but i knew i had to drive back afterwards...(and
:>howling down the A.68[1] at high speed at night is something
:>best enjoyed sober)
:>
:>[1]main road from Edinburgh to Newcastle. Lots of nice blind
:> crests and sharp bends. Every few miles there are signs saying
:> things like "84 people killed on this road since 1996"
You drove 350 miles there, went to work, and drove on at the end of
the day? I've done that road and know it too well. The company for
which you worked must have been total cheapskates (I'm assuming you
went to friends/relations).
Claire Speed
>In <xkfaf3o...@valdemar.col.hp.com> "Eric The Read" <emsc...@mail.uccs.edu> writes:
>>What's Fair Trade? Sounds something like organic, except over here, the
>>word `organic' is very fuzzy, and can refer to something with no more
>A Fair Trade product isn't necessarily an organic one, although it often
>is (over here anything labelled as "organic" has to be certified so and the
>criteria are fairly strict). "Fair Trade" essentially means that the growers
>aren't completely ripped off. They have things such as a minimum price to at
>least cover the cost of production (there are times when coffee is left to
>rot as its cheaper not to harvest it). The company selling the coffee over
>here (which is made up from Oxfam trading, Equal Exchange, Traidcraft and
>Twin Trading) doing things like investing in the community which produce their
>coffee and working for the growers in the market.
It's nice to see that other people think this is an idea worth supporting -
I've been trying to buy fairly traded products for a while now.
Unfortunately, the only product I've ever seen in a supermarket is the Cafe
Direct coffee, which I'm not keen on. I much prefer the Campaign instant
coffee.
When I worked at the uni there was a traidcraft shop next door which was open
12-2, mon-fri during term time. That was enough for me to get in there and
stock up on all the rice, nuts, sugar, tea bags, chocolate (70%), museli,
honey and peanut butter I needed. Now I've left there, though, it's much
harder. I keep meaning to phone the company direct and see if they will do
orders over the phone for people who just want one person's stock (rather
than a shop's worth). I hope so, because the supermarket basmati rice isn't
a patch on the fairly traded one and neither is the peanut butter.
Claire
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Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
>:>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:57:48 GMT, Edward J. Powell <epo...@visi.com> wrote:
>:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
>:>rather than instant.
>
>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
></UI>
>
>Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink. Top hole, even.
Lapsang-souchong, old thing? Or perhaps a cup of Earl Grey? I'll get
someone to warm the pot. And would you perhaps like a buttered scone?
--
//Tanuki// - putting the fun back into being pretentious.
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<thor...@unico.com.au> writes
>Usually there *is* real coffee, since we have a grinder, frozen coffee
>beans and a percolator here... but sometimes I can't be bothered making
>another pot.
>
>I should bring in a plunger.
I infer, by the context, that you're refering to a "Cafetiere".
<UI>
Here in the UK, a "plunger" is a stick-with-a-big-rubber-disc-on-
the-end that is used to unblock sinks etc.
</UI>
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
Nope - i just like driving, specially on twisty roads in someone
else's[1] car...
And if *you* saw how much I charge[2] for such a visit, you'd probably
like it too...
[1]Avis car-rental, though i tend to change rental companies every
six months, or sooner if they get to realise the things[3] I get
up to with their cars...
[2]"If you have to ask how much, you can't afford me"
[3]like taking cars back with rear doors that won't open,
after "yumping" them.
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"Please wait while Windows loads BloodShield. The LART-wizard will then
guide you through the remaining procedures"
Christian Bauernfeind
Paul Joslin <paul....@sdrc.com> writes:
>
> Was it Fred Brooks or Jon Bentley who observed that every major project should
> plan on building a prototype and throwing it away? And added the corollary
> that the prototype is never thrown away - it gets 'enhanced'. MS OS come to
> mind.
Brooks. But the corollary is not his, at least not in this wording.
"The Mythical Man Month" is much too straight a book for that kind of
cynicity[1]. Cf. also "Second System" in the jargon file[3].
Christian
[1] I'll be surprised if this turns out to be an actual[2] word.
[2] Actual, as in, present in some dictionary. It is a word now.
[3] As well as the book[4] of course.
[4] TMMM. No point in looking in both the jargon file and TNHD(3E).
--
Christian Bauernfeind
Not speaking for Siemens
Not even working for IBM
e-mail: v2ba...@fishkill.ibm.com
Lars Hecking
> I would prefer having my SO tasting of coffee to having him taste of
> cigarettes. But maybe that's just me...
As a principle, SOs[1] tasting of cigarettes don't last more than a few
hours. And only if I'm completely[2] and utterly[2] drunk.
[1] For possibly small values of SO.
[2] For irritatingly large values of $*[3]
[3] $* as in arg list to [n]
[n] NAF
> Jenny With the Axe (and the Temper) http://www.algonet.se/~jenny-h/
> Goddess of delusions
> "Scary, isn't it? A naked man running around looking for a sheep"
--
There is a Massachusetts law requiring all dogs to have their hind legs
tied during the month of April.
Jens Goerke
> In article <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk>,
> >Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink. Top hole, even.
> I quite agree (at least with the second part - I've no idea
> what the relative caffeine content of various teas and coffees
> are). Perhaps I'm just a heretic, but generally I prefer tea
> to coffee.
I second that. Since switching from coffee to tea my stomach has
ceased to act up, although I prefer to use tablespoons instead of
teaspoons when preparing my Darjeeling, so my tea is denser than
most people's coffee.
Jens, having ordered another kg of Darjeeling First Flush this week
--
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Disclaimer: Not only do I speak for myself; I am myself.
Paul Mc Auley
| jec...@rtfm.netset.com (Rebecca Gray) writes:
| > Then I explained to him that I refused touch, or even
| > acknowledge, anything with the word "instant" in its
| > description.
| Reminds me of when I was totally out-boggled when a friend
| of mine told me of the American concept of "instant
| oatmeal". Jhesus, what's the point?
My father-in-law had an amusing tale of how our indigenous flour/oatmeal/etc
company had done a run of ... microwaveable porridge. Apparently it had to
be either repackaged or junked (I can't remember which) when it turned out
that the instructions did not include removal from the (metal) can before
nuking. Strangely enough I've never seen it in the real world.
Paul.
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--- Paul Mc Auley <pmca...@iol.ie>
-- Datagram for Mongo! Datagram for Mongo!
Alexander Schreiber
wrote about Re: Coffee Thread II: The Recurrence:
>On 25 Sep 1998 10:08:45 GMT, a signature included by par...@kairos.algonet.se
>(Par Leijonhufvud) said:
>
>Par> --
>Par> Par Leijonhufvud parlei(at)algonet.se
>Par> Unfortunately, development was stopped on the production version of
>Par> [life], and we've been supporting and kluging the demo version for the
>Par> last 4 billion years. -- Paul Tomblin
>
>Was it Fred Brooks or Jon Bentley who observed that every major project should
>plan on building a prototype and throwing it away? And added the corollary
>that the prototype is never thrown away - it gets 'enhanced'. MS OS come to
>mind.
<UI type="book pointer" ui-level="small">
Frederick P. Brooks : The Mythical Man-Month
It got reprinted 1995 - with all the original essays and some new ones.
</UI>
I just finished reading my copy of it. It should be a required reading for
everybody writing code not fitting onto a single A4 page [1]
<selfLART reason="providing UI">
WHACK !! Ouch ...
WHACK !!! OUCH !!
</selfLART>
[1] using normal 10 point font
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Edward J. Powell
:
: For a caffeine fix, I had the option of Coke Classic. No, when I say I'm
: craving coffee, it's because I want the flavour of real, good coffee. So
: instant does not work for me.
Ah. Well, the difference between "I love coffee" and "I need caffeine now
or you die" should have been made.
: > Now, Postum... that stuff scares the hell out of me.
:
: Never heard of it. Should I ask?
Described as "coffee-flavoured hot beverage". Advanced Coffee Substitute,
for lack of a better way of describing it.
I haven't had the guts to try it myself... although it is sold at the
grocery stores near me[1].
[1] Minneapolis metro area [2]
[2] Where there appears to be a lack of a.s.r readership, which sucks. [3]
[3] Sucks because there isn't any opportunity for an ASR-Minneapolis at
Brits Pub. Dammit.
--
Ed Powell -- Twilight Zone Reject
http://www.visi.com/~epowell Finger for PGP public key
"When SysAdmins Attack!" This Sunday, on Fox.
Lady Kayla
Donaldson) wrote:
[...instant coffee and...]
>I did once try instant and Milo[1]. Didn't really think that much of it.
>
>[1] Instant hot chocolate, basically.
Milo is nothing like hot chocolate. It's got _malt_ in. *blech* The
kids love the stuff. Luckily the supply I brought over from .au (and
the additions provided by random visitors recently) has lasted long
enough that I haven't had to try and find an equivalent over here.
Anybody seen Milo for sale in the UK? Somebody did mention the name,
but they said that it didn't float. The kids won't drink[1] it if it
doesn't float on cold milk.
Lady Kayla
[1] actually, they eat the Milo with a spoon and then drink the milk
that's left *shudder*
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See http://www.vom.tm/ for our wedding pictures.
Kill Me Now
Jenny With the Axe wrote in message ...
:rod...@ihug.co.nz (Rodger Donaldson) writes:
:
:>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice
between instant and just
:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others.
Hell, I'll drink tea
:>rather than instant.
:Instant mixed in hot chocolate will do, though. For some
reason my
:cow-orkers find this weird.
Best use of instant coffee: mix a couple of heaping
tablespoons in to brownie batter. YUM!
My ex- (French, go figure) used to mix instant coffee into
cold milk and drink it down.
Candy Girl
Fluffy
> Message-ID: <y4dsohg...@sdrc.com>
Nice meow!
Carl Patten
<Postum stuff snipped>
:
: I haven't had the guts to try it myself... although it is sold at the
: grocery stores near me[1].
:
: [1] Minneapolis metro area [2]
: [2] Where there appears to be a lack of a.s.r readership, which sucks. [3]
: [3] Sucks because there isn't any opportunity for an ASR-Minneapolis at
: Brits Pub. Dammit.
You just need to ask, Ed. Lead the way!
--
Carl Patten
Systems Administrator
Trimodal Inc.
Minneapolis, MN
Måns Nilsson
>mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se (Måns Nilsson) writes:
>
>> There is no coffee culture in Sweden north of the Scanian
>
>Rubbish. You've obviously never tasted laplandish 'kokkaffe'
>with coffee cheese and salt stirred in.
Trouble is, I have. Based on this, I made the statement.
Kokkaffe might be okay in a hiking situation, where campfires and such
are the rule of the day. Not else. And then I always order special
"kokmalet" (ground less fine for boiling purposes) Zoégas, just to
preserve some dignity.
--
Måns Nilsson Unixtekniker
icq 14169016 GSM 070 8344045
Well through his second pint of Real Coffee for today[0], with a side order
of Laphroaig.
[0] Not counting the brown fluid they provide at work.
Måns Nilsson
>In article <slrn70mjg4....@bartlet.df.lth.se> in alt.sysadmin.recovery, dated 25 Sep 1998 08:02:13 GMT, Måns Nilsson (mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se) wrote:
>
>: Zoégas[1], please take over the others! Make them do what they claim!
>
>: [1] Only coffee-producing company in Sweden. The others make tea.
>
>So what does Gevalia make, in Gaevle?
They call it coffee, but it bears more resemblence to tea, at least in colour.
The taste is, erm, not like tea. Or coffee.
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-- Hag, "Tomorrow is Yesterday", stardate unknown
Matthew Crosby
Lady Kayla <wi...@megabitch.tm> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:35:04 +1200, rod...@ihug.co.nz (Rodger
>Donaldson) wrote:
>[...instant coffee and...]
>>I did once try instant and Milo[1]. Didn't really think that much of it.
>>
>>[1] Instant hot chocolate, basically.
>
>Milo is nothing like hot chocolate. It's got _malt_ in. *blech* The
>kids love the stuff. Luckily the supply I brought over from .au (and
>the additions provided by random visitors recently) has lasted long
>enough that I haven't had to try and find an equivalent over here.
>
>Anybody seen Milo for sale in the UK? Somebody did mention the name,
>but they said that it didn't float. The kids won't drink[1] it if it
>doesn't float on cold milk.
Try asian markets.
Seriously.
For some strange reason, Milo is amazingly popular in much of SE and S Asia,
and I've seen it in a large number of Asian places over here, often imported
from India or Thailand (which in turn is imported from Oz) and printed in
Hindi or Thai.
--
Matthew Crosby cro...@cs.colorado.edu
Disclaimer: It was in another country, and besides, the wench is dead.
Kai Henningsen
> Okay. Since nothing is specified as to what to replace `nospam' with,
> we can safely assume that this may be represented as s/nospam//.
> If we assume no case sensitivity, that makes it <NoSpam@NOSPAM.>, and
> if we assume case sensitivity, that makes it <@.>. In either case,
> my sendmail chokes on it.
I think you've confused the polarities there.
Kai
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- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu)
Richard Kaszeta
> I haven't had the guts to try it myself... although it is sold at the
> grocery stores near me[1].
>
> [1] Minneapolis metro area [2]
> [2] Where there appears to be a lack of a.s.r readership, which sucks. [3]
Actually, there are quite a few asr readers in the twin cities... we
even have sponsored the occasional outing... the appropriate mailing
list is asr...@winternet.com.
> [3] Sucks because there isn't any opportunity for an ASR-Minneapolis at
> Brits Pub. Dammit.
I'm up for it. I'm sure I could dredge up a handful more people.
--
Richard W Kaszeta Graduate Student/Sysadmin
bo...@me.umn.edu University of MN, ME Dept
http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta
Brian Kantor
department stockroom last time I was over there. I'll have to check.
- Brian
"Vote Cthulhu. Why choose the lesser evil?"
Brian Kantor
>better, its a Fair Trade product (I try to use Fair Trade products were ever
>possible - it not only makes sense from an ethical point of view, the products
>often taste a *lot* better than their non-Fair Trade equivalents).
Ahah! [Pounces on another linguistic difference...]
Over on this side of the pond, "Fair Trade" usually means "price fixed by
manufacturer at artificially high level". What does it mean over there?
- Brian
"...two countries separated by a common language."
Q Stephens
:>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:38:45 +0100 (BST), Q Stephens <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> wrote:
:>>On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:43:07 +1200, Rodger Donaldson wrote:
:>
:>>:>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
:>>:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
:>>:>rather than instant.
:>>
:>><UI>
:>>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
:>></UI>
:>
:>Depends on the tea leaf and preparation. More to the point, I like the
:>*taste* of coffee. If I just wanted caffiene, I could gobble no-doze.
:>
:>>Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink.
:>
:>Says you.
I do say. An afternoon cup of Earl Grey is absolutely top hole...
Q Stephens
:>In <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk> "Q Stephens" <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes:
:>>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
:>
:>This is true, but tea also has lots of tanin in it - which reduces the
:>absorbtion of caffeine AFAIR.
:>
:>And if you're drinking tea it'd better be a herbal one or a semi-toxic green
:>chinese tea (Nicolai drinks one which smells a *lot* like creosote).
Just Earl Grey or Lapsang. I'm not a connoisseur.
Q Stephens
:>Q Stephens wrote:
:>
:>><UI>
:>>
:>>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
:>>
:>></UI>
:>
:>ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/news/answers/caffeine-faq
:>
:>Naturally, there's going to be some variation - a real cup of navvies'
:>tea will likely have somewhat more caffeine than Merkin love-canoe
:>coffee, but I prefer my coffee heading towards Dutch strength. I'll also
:>take a decent instant over a badly brewed (i.e. much of Merka, northern
:>England, etc.) coffee.
It does depend upon the relative concentrations, of course, but I
like my drinks strong and sweet.
Ob ASR: I had a work-experience lad under my wing. Asked him to go
make us all [1] some coffee [2]. Naturally he aced the test by
putting in one teaspoonful of sugar and *three* of coffee powded into
each mug. It was undrinkable.
[1] Including himself - I'm not *that* cruel, mostly
[2] Instant, but this was in my .gov.uk days.
Peter Gutmann
wi...@megabitch.tm (Lady Kayla) writes:
>Milo is nothing like hot chocolate. It's got _malt_ in. *blech* The
>kids love the stuff. Luckily the supply I brought over from .au (and
>the additions provided by random visitors recently) has lasted long
>enough that I haven't had to try and find an equivalent over here.
>[1] actually, they eat the Milo with a spoon and then drink the milk
>that's left *shudder*
Bizarre. Everyone knows you leave Milo until it cakes, then break off chunks
and eat them. The milk you give to the cat.
Peter.
Jeff Gostin
: <walks to break room, inspects freezer, returns> 1 1/2 large bags of
: Guatamalan Antigua, 2 large bags of French
: Roast, 1 1/2 large bags of Columbian Decaf. There should be similar
: stock in the other break area on this floor, and in the 1st floor
: break room. Would that be acceptable?
Disco! At least we know the coffee is good. How's the rest of the company?
As good/better than the coffee, I hope? ;)
--J
Måns Nilsson
>Måns Nilsson <mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se> wrote:
>> In article <6ufmbs$ciq$2...@artemis.backbone.ou.edu>, Mike Andrews wrote:
>>>In article <slrn70mjg4....@bartlet.df.lth.se> in alt.sysadmin.recovery, dated 25 Sep 1998 08:02:13 GMT, Måns Nilsson (mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se) wrote:
>>>
>>>: Zoégas[1], please take over the others! Make them do what they claim!
>>>
>>>: [1] Only coffee-producing company in Sweden. The others make tea.
>>>
>>>So what does Gevalia make, in Gaevle?
>
>> They call it coffee, but it bears more resemblence to tea, at least in colour.
>> The taste is, erm, not like tea. Or coffee.
>
>absolute heaven in comparison to what we typically get over here [0].
>That's the coffee club from which I make my coffee purchases, and I find
>it's the only thing I can tolerate [1]. If Gevalia is crap over there, I
>think I really need to visit in order to try to _good_ stuff. I'd probably
>never leave...
I understand your situation. When I was in USA on vacation a few years back
I felt that even Gevalia or Löfbergs Lila could make valuable additions to my
coffee consumption, as they were far above the average diner coffe that I
managed to find. However, Zoégas is unsurpassed. What is it then?[0]
It is dark roasted, almost like espresso roast, and it comes in several
varieties, of which I prefer the two darkest; Skånerost and Mollbergs Blandning[1]
Has your interest been waken I could send you some. Beans or ground vacuum-
packed are available. If you would like to try yourself the address of the factory is:
Zoégas Kaffe AB
PO Box 7073
S-250 07 Helsingborg
Sweden
I used to work across the road, just 250 metres away. The aroma, the aroma.....
>
>[0] the States, obviously
I guessed so.
[0] Swedes, pls disregard this. <swedish>Jag vet, det är självklarheter.</swedish>
[1] Scania Roast (from the southmost province in Sweden) and
Mollbergs Mixture, from a hotel in Helsingborg, where the factory is.
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-- Kirk, "Errand of Mercy", stardate 3198.9
Q Stephens
:>In article <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk>, Q
:>Stephens <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes
:>>On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:43:07 +1200, Rodger Donaldson wrote:
:>>:>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:57:48 GMT, Edward J. Powell <epo...@visi.com> wrote:
:>>:>Instant well *never* do in a pinch. Given a choice between instant and just
:>>:>about any other warm beverage, I'll take the others. Hell, I'll drink tea
:>>:>rather than instant.
:>>
:>><UI>
:>>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
:>></UI>
:>>
:>>Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink. Top hole, even.
:>
:>Lapsang-souchong, old thing? Or perhaps a cup of Earl Grey? I'll get
:>someone to warm the pot. And would you perhaps like a buttered scone?
:}
Spiffing. Does one prefer milk or cream in one's tea?
Q Stephens
:>In article <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk>, Q
:>Stephens <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes
:>>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:36:24 +0100, Tanuki the Raccoon-dog wrote:
:>>:>[1]main road from Edinburgh to Newcastle. Lots of nice blind
:>>:> crests and sharp bends. Every few miles there are signs saying
:>>:> things like "84 people killed on this road since 1996"
:>>
:>>You drove 350 miles there, went to work, and drove on at the end of
:>>the day? I've done that road and know it too well. The company for
:>>which you worked must have been total cheapskates (I'm assuming you
:>>went to friends/relations).
:>
:>Nope - i just like driving, specially on twisty roads in someone
:>else's[1] car...
Hehehe.
:>And if *you* saw how much I charge[2] for such a visit, you'd probably
:>like it too...
You charge full rate for travel? I salute a true bofh.
Edward J. Powell
:
: Actually, there are quite a few asr readers in the twin cities... we
: even have sponsored the occasional outing... the appropriate mailing
: list is asr...@winternet.com.
<insert long string of profanity here, mixed in with "you never post you
bastards"...> :P
Q Stephens
:>"Q Stephens" <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes:
:>> Spiffing. Does one prefer milk or cream in one's tea?
:>
:>Well - at least one prefers neither milk nor sugar - why contaminate
:>good tea with anything?
Taste - it's the difference between good and better.
Joe Thompson
(Rebecca Gray) wrote:
> My SO recently, upon hearing my complaints that I was craving coffee,
> made the mistake of offering me some instant that his roommate had in the
> cupboard. Once I stopped choking on hysterical laughter, I reminded him
> of my particular kitchen cupboard that is full of real coffee. Then I
> explained to him that I refused touch, or even acknowledge, anything with
> the word "instant" in its description.
Given the depth, breadth and tenaciousness of your coffee snobbery, I'm
surprised he's still intact and ambulatory after committing such heresy.
I'm not much better actually. I'm poking along on Folger's at work right
now, but whoa boy when I get the espresso machine for my desk...
They only *think* I'm insane now. Nobody's seen me on a serious caffeine rush.
> I think he's learned.
Well, at least he's known to be trainable now <g, d, r f, fa[0]> -- Joe
[0] ...far, far away.
--
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sp...@orion-com.com | http://kensey.home.mindspring.com/
Charlottesville, VA | O- He-Who-Grinds-the-Unworthy
| I have brown eyes AND I VOTE!
Joe Thompson
<jgo...@shell2.ba.best.com> wrote:
> You think, with the nice PHB/SalesDweeb/Marketdroid perks
> companies[1] give out, they could buy some decent fscking coffee... Not this
> dirt-cheap No-Name-Coffee-in-a-packet crap.
In my old department the coffee of choice was this c-i-a-p called "Blue
Mountain." No, not *that* BM. I think either:
a) the coffee person was trying to fool us, or
b) the coffee company was, or
c) a) and b)
-- Joe
Joe Thompson
(Rebecca Gray) wrote:
> Edward J. Powell <epo...@visi.com> wrote:
> > Rebecca Gray (jec...@rtfm.netset.com) wrote:
> > : Edward J. Powell <epo...@visi.com> wrote:
> > : > Now, Postum... that stuff scares the hell out of me.
> > :
> > : Never heard of it. Should I ask?
>
> > Described as "coffee-flavoured hot beverage". Advanced Coffee Substitute,
> > for lack of a better way of describing it.
>
> Um. The phrase "run in fear" leaps to mind.
I have been desperate enough for a caffeine fix to actually drink a
Starbucks frappucino. Somebody please just shoot me now. Rebecca, I
trust your aim. And by the way, this is a mercy killing, so none of your
usual tricks...
(Actually they're not all that bad, just don't drink more than one at a
sitting.) -- Joe
Joe Thompson
Raccoon-dog <Tanuki@canis^Hmajor.da^Hemon.co.uk> wrote:
> Lapsang-souchong, old thing?
This is the thing for which I am eternally grateful to James Michener. -- Joe
Joe Thompson
> jec...@rtfm.netset.com (Rebecca Gray) writes:
>
> > Then I explained to him that I refused touch, or even
> > acknowledge, anything with the word "instant" in its
> > description.
>
> Reminds me of when I was totally out-boggled when a friend
> of mine told me of the American concept of "instant
> oatmeal". Jhesus, what's the point?
Instant grits are an offense to every right-thinking inhabitant of the
American South. -- Joe
Jeffrey M. Vinocur
Joe Thompson <sp...@orion-com.com> wrote:
>In article <360c5...@athena.netset.com>, jec...@rtfm.netset.com
>(Rebecca Gray) wrote:
>
>I have been desperate enough for a caffeine fix to actually drink a
>Starbucks frappucino.
>
>sitting.) -- Joe
Actually, they're pretty decent (I prefer the mocha, personally).
The problem is that they cost a bloody fortune. However, there
have been times when I'm willing to pay for caffeine ;-)
--
Jeff Vinocur * je...@foad.org
Everybody already knows that I *am* a snooty Brit.
--Alistair J. R. Young, in the Monastery
Arthur Hagen
In article <slrn70isn8....@orwell.weta.dyn.ml.org>, rod...@ihug.co.nz writes:
> On 23 Sep 1998 13:14:50 GMT, Mike Andrews
> <dsda...@DSDAPC03.okladot.state.ok.us> wrote:
> >
> >Silly question. Ever hear of chocolate-covered coffee beans?
> >Of course you did. Now go sit in the corner.
>
> At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
How on earth do you snort coffee beans?
--
*Art
Lars Hecking
> I second that. Since switching from coffee to tea my stomach has
> ceased to act up, although I prefer to use tablespoons instead of
> teaspoons when preparing my Darjeeling, so my tea is denser than
> most people's coffee.
I have tasted such tea and survived ... even after after a night
with gobs of intoxicating liquids ...
> Jens, having ordered another kg of Darjeeling First Flush this week
<g> I'll skip that this year. Still have so much left after accidentally
getting three kg instead of two last year. From the same source, presumably.
Oh, *cluck*.
--
If life is a stage, I want some better lighting.
Arthur Hagen
In article <dgfavyqenzpbhx....@goodnews.nildram.co.uk>, "Q Stephens" <s...@mardlin.oc.ku> writes:
> Ob ASR: I had a work-experience lad under my wing. Asked him to go
> make us all [1] some coffee [2]. Naturally he aced the test by
> putting in one teaspoonful of sugar and *three* of coffee powded into
> each mug. It was undrinkable.
Yeah, that's *way* too much sugar.
I use two teaspoons of coffee for normal coffee (when I'm out of real
coffee and have to use the instant crap), and three when tired.
Sugar is something best used for cooking, not for coffee.
However, I asked my s.o. to make me some instant coffee the other day.
She asked how many spoons, and I replied "two". It tasted curiously
strong, and once I had climbed down the wall again, I got a Clue, and
asked her what kind of spoons she had used. Tablespoons...
Regards,
--
*Art
Arthur Hagen
> You're kidding. Please tell me you're kidding. Because Gevalia is
> absolute heaven in comparison to what we typically get over here [0].
Gevalia Coffee, like Absolut Vodka, shows that Swedish marketing is
world class. The products are low-class cheaply made swill that
natives prefer to stay away from. But they sell well outside
Scandinavia, because of marketing.
Good coffee is supposed to be strong and black, but not bitter[1].
Gevalia fails on all accounts.
Another great Swedish marketing ploy is the renaming of cowberries
to "lingonberries", because the former was unsellable in English-
speaking countries.
Sure, Sweden has lots of *good* products too, but Gevalia (and Absolut)
aren't them.
Of course, *good* coffee is made in a kettle or a perculator, and
not those fancy useless machines that have become popular. If your
coffee becomes bitter if the grounds have been in contact with the
hot water for too long, you use inferior quality coffee (like Gevalia).
And "latte" and flavours? Well and fine, but it has nothing to
do with coffee. At least not for Scandinavians, who consume more
coffee per head than any other country in the world, including Brazil.
I think the average coffee consumption among adult Scandinavians
is as high as the IOC's doping limit for athletes.
[1]: Contrary to popular belief, strong and bitter are two different
things when it comes to coffee.
> [1] Well, there's the European Coffeehouse Collection, from which I make my
> other coffee purchases. But that's owned by Gevalia. Supposedly, the
> coffee is from all sorts of coffee houses spread across Europe. I've
> found them to be quite yummy.
Try to see where the coffee beans in the blends come from, and have
your local coffee house burn you a nice blend. You'll probably have a
nice surprise. My advise is Kenyan top grade mixed with Venezuelan.
And stay away from Puerto Rican coffee - I've never had *one* good
cup of that vile (and heavily marketed) stuff.
--
*Art
Jeff Shultz
:>In article <slrn70isn8....@orwell.weta.dyn.ml.org>, rod...@ihug.co.nz wrote:
:>>At the other extreme, a friend once tried snorting instant...
:>
:>I've heard it's possible to make freebase caffeine with pulverized
:>viverin[0], some baking soda, and a microwave oven.
:>
:>[0]Merkin caffeine-based pep pills.
:>
I wouldn't snort the stuff... but when I was in the field in the
Army[1], I was known to just pour the packets of instant that came in
our MRE's [2] down my throat.
It didn't taste any worse than if I'd poured it in hot water and
drank it.
[1] 1986-1998 - but you really didn't want to know that, did you?
[2] MRE - Meals Ready to Eat, the military's standard field ration.
Also known as Meals Rejected by Ethiopians, although the newer ones
are actually quite tasty.
Jeff Shultz
Once and (probably) future tech support type.
Jeff Shultz
:>
:>Try Oxfam - they do a lot of Fair Trade stuff.
:>
:>--
:>Simon Burr si...@bpfh.net
:> "Stalinist oranges never turn to mush" - Eddie Izzard (sortof)
Okay.... never having been to the UK, and 2 1/2 years out of Europe
[1], can I ask what "Fair Trade" stuff is?
[1] US Army, Augsburg, GE 1991-1996
Richard Letts
> Paul Joslin used the following in his .sig:
> YOU KNOW YOU'RE TOO STRESSED IF...
> You wonder if brewing is really a necessary step for the
> consumption of coffee.
> Silly question. Ever hear of chocolate-covered coffee beans?
> Of course you did. Now go sit in the corner.
he's obviously not read the FAQ
RjL
Jenny With the Axe
>Kokkaffe might be okay in a hiking situation, where campfires and such
>are the rule of the day. Not else. And then I always order special
>"kokmalet" (ground less fine for boiling purposes) Zoégas, just to
>preserve some dignity.
Kokkaffe can be *good*. Thing is, you can use a lot more coffee in
kokkaffe than in brewed coffee before it tastes too strong/bitter. If
you don't believe me, come up northwise some time and taste the stuff
Ingvar boils...
Still, I use a Pedro for the daily dose. It's fairly quick and easy
and far better than electrical brewers.
--
Jenny With the Axe (and the Temper) http://www.algonet.se/~jenny-h/
Goddess of delusions
"Scary, isn't it? A naked man running around looking for a sheep..."
Chris Adams
><UI>
>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
></UI>
You've obviously never tasted my coffee...
It never fails to amuse me that the little Melitta coffee makers suggest that
you use something like one or two tablespoons. Personally, I grind the beans
down to a dust-like level and pack that sucker up almost to the top. Just
enough room for the water...
Leif Nixon
>
> In article <6ufmbs$ciq$2...@artemis.backbone.ou.edu>, Mike Andrews wrote:
> >In article <slrn70mjg4....@bartlet.df.lth.se> in alt.sysadmin.recovery, dated 25 Sep 1998 08:02:13 GMT, Måns Nilsson (mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se) wrote:
> >
> >: Zoégas[1], please take over the others! Make them do what they claim!
> >
> >: [1] Only coffee-producing company in Sweden. The others make tea.
> >
> >So what does Gevalia make, in Gaevle?
>
> They call it coffee, but it bears more resemblence to tea, at least in colour.
> The taste is, erm, not like tea. Or coffee.
Bull. I dare you to tell the difference (in a blind test)
between Gevalia dark roast and Zoega's Mollbergs
blandning.
--
Leif Nixon Rational SoftLab
-------------------------------------------------
E-mail: ni...@softlab.se Phone: +46 13 23 57 61
-------------------------------------------------
Peter da Silva
Arthur Hagen <a...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>Gevalia Coffee, like Absolut Vodka, shows that Swedish marketing is
>world class. The products are low-class cheaply made swill that
>natives prefer to stay away from. But they sell well outside
>Scandinavia, because of marketing.
Sort of like ABBA?
>Of course, *good* coffee is made in a kettle or a perculator,
I suppose so, if "good" means "boiled and burned".
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <pe...@baileynm.com>
`-_-' "Milloin halasit viimeksi suttasi?"
'U`
"Tell init(8) to lock-n-load, we're goin' zombie slaying!"
Shalom Septimus
Leijonhufvud) wrote:
>The company which also sells radioactive LSD.
Of course here in Merkia you'd need to execute a DEA Form 222 to get
it, as it's a controlled substance in Schedule I. They are about the
only (legal) supplier I know of for C-I substances.
On 25 Sep 1998 14:15:11 +0100, fo...@sg4.pcy.kcl.ac.uk (Chris
Richardson) wrote:
> Martindale's Extra Pharmacopoeia
I have coveted this book for about 3 years now. Fisrt time I saw it
(at a cancer hospital where I was volunteering), I leafed through it,
then read various bits in more detail, then called the publisher and
inquired as to how much.
US$375 !?
Said the hell with it. (I've seen it for sale online for $ 299, but
even so... I've never spent more than $94 for a book in my life.) One
of these days, though...
Richard
><UI>
>Tea has more caffeine than coffee.
></UI>
It may well, it makes a diffrence how it is brewed. It seems to me
that coffee in the states is served weak (based only on my visit to
Chicago).
Afterall if you put coffee in a glass mug you should not be able to
see through it.
Tea seemed to come from a can, with sugar and lemon added (yuck).
>Besides which, tea is a d*mn fine drink. Top hole, even.
Orange Peko(sp?) brewed strong, would be my choice.
--
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Jan Ingvoldstad
> Bull. I dare you to tell the difference (in a blind test)
> between Gevalia dark roast and Zoega's Mollbergs
> blandning.
This reminds me of the people who can't tell the difference between
MP3 and CD sound, and thus dares others to tell the difference (in a
blind test) between MP3 and CD sound.
One doesn't have to be a genious to understand that people who enjoy
coffee and drink a lot of it (and perhaps also have a developed sense
of smell and taste) will be able to tell two different coffee blends
from eachother, just like I'm able to tell MP3 and CD sound on a
moderately good stereo.
J<>I
--
Rimmer: "How come he never ever knows anything? He's supposed to
have an IQ of 6000!"
Holly: "6 000 's not that much. 's only the same IQ as 12 000 car
park attendants."
Ned Brickley
Hagen) wrote:
>How on earth do you snort coffee beans?
First you take a small supply of fresh coffee beans.
Then cover them with a sterile cloth.
Then place a small flat solid object over the cloth.
Take the nearest luser, bring them to the prepared work area and bring
its head down onto the flat object with as much force as you can
muster.
Repeat as needed until the coffee beans have been reduced to a fine
powder.
Now dispose of the luser in the prescribed manner, remove the hard
flat object and then uncover the beans.
Using the edge of a razor blade, cut the powdered beans into seperate
long lines.
Take a small hollow tube, insert one end into your nostril.
Place the other end next to the first line of powdered coffee.
Place a finger against the nostril that does not have the tube in it,
pressing firmly to close it off. Now inhale sharply through the tube.
You have now inhaled coffee beans.
--
***It has been determined that you can get far more***
***cooperation from a luser using a kind word and a 2X4***
***then with a kind word alone***
Måns Nilsson
>mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se (Måns Nilsson) writes:
>
>>
>> In article <6ufmbs$ciq$2...@artemis.backbone.ou.edu>, Mike Andrews wrote:
>> >In article <slrn70mjg4....@bartlet.df.lth.se> in alt.sysadmin.recovery, dated 25 Sep 1998 08:02:13 GMT, Måns Nilsson (mans...@bartlet.df.lth.se) wrote:
>> >
>> >: Zoégas[1], please take over the others! Make them do what they claim!
>> >
>> >: [1] Only coffee-producing company in Sweden. The others make tea.
>> >
>> >So what does Gevalia make, in Gaevle?
>>
>> They call it coffee, but it bears more resemblence to tea, at least in colour.
>> The taste is, erm, not like tea. Or coffee.
>
>between Gevalia dark roast and Zoega's Mollbergs
>blandning.
>
>Leif Nixon Rational SoftLab
>-------------------------------------------------
>E-mail: ni...@softlab.se Phone: +46 13 23 57 61
>-------------------------------------------------
Clearly to the north of Hallandsåsen[0]. You have obviously not
understood the wisdom of Zoégas. The trick is to make it on Scanian
water. Second trick is to practice a lot, and thus become accustomed
to the nuances so completely hidden from those preferring Gevalia.
As soon as there is a good opportunity, we shall meet and test this.
I am at the present living in exile in Stockholm, and, while the water
is suboptimal here the taste of Zoégas still outperforms those
brown fluids.
--
Måns Nilsson Unixtekniker
icq 14169016 GSM 070 8344045
One does not thank logic.
-- Sarek, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.4
[0] ridge separating Scania from the rest of Sweden
Stephen Harris
: from eachother, just like I'm able to tell MP3 and CD sound on a
: moderately good stereo.
This makes me laugh. I've got a Sony Minidisc player. People ask me
"does it sound as good?". I answer "I don't care - I use it on the train
and underground, where the background noise destroys any audio quality.
I use it because it's easy and better than tape".
Shuts them up :-)
--
rgds
Stephen
Dickon Hood
sp...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) wrote:
: Instant grits are an offense to every right-thinking inhabitant of the
: American South. -- Joe
There are left-thinking ones?
--
Dickon Hood
Due to binaries posted to non-binary newsgroups, my .sig is
temporarily unavailable. Normal service will be resumed as soon as
possible. We apologise for the inconvenience in the mean time.
Peter Gutmann
sw...@mpn.com (Stephen Harris) writes:
>Shuts them up :-)
I get this as well with my lo-fi: "I'm listening to Morbid Angel on it, d'you
think I even notice the quality of the stereo?".
Peter.
Jan Ingvoldstad
> This makes me laugh. I've got a Sony Minidisc player. People ask me
> "does it sound as good?". I answer "I don't care - I use it on the train
> and underground, where the background noise destroys any audio quality.
> I use it because it's easy and better than tape".
>
> Shuts them up :-)
I wasn't exactly writing about people who listen to music on the
subway or whatever. I was more on to the people who listen to this in
the confines in their home -- on their "hi-fi" -- and still can't tell
the difference.
The only thing these persons seem to notice in the difference between
stereo sets is the heavy thumping bass. It doesn't matter if the
sound is vivid and clear.
I ain't a "true" stereophile[0] or coffee-lover, but I can both hear
and smell the differences between different stereos and different
coffees. It's okay that some people don't hear or smell the
difference, but it really gets to me that they think that's how it has
to be for everybody else, too.
They are lusers of music and coffee, that's what they are.
---------------
[0] I've only spent around 1k quid[1] on my set, not 10k or 50k.
[1] But since it was bought in Norway, that'll be the equivalent of
about two thirds of that in the UK. :)
Stephen Harris
: I wasn't exactly writing about people who listen to music on the
: subway or whatever. I was more on to the people who listen to this in
: the confines in their home -- on their "hi-fi" -- and still can't tell
: the difference.
Yes, but the parallel holds. People can't tell the difference between
vinyl and CD, or CD and MP3 because the rest of the equipment just isn't
up to it. I know I can't tell the difference (except vinyl has a lot more
background hiss and scratch). Equally, I can't tell the difference
between CD and Minidisc on a train, due to background noise.
But then, getting new (cheap) headphones for the walkman does make a big
difference - they rarely have a sound response even similar to each other.
--
rgds
Stephen
(null)
[...]
> However, I asked my s.o. to make me some instant coffee the other
> day. She asked how many spoons, and I replied "two". It tasted
> curiously strong, and once I had climbed down the wall again, I got
> a Clue, and asked her what kind of spoons she had used.
> Tablespoons...
ITYM "Luser Scaring Strength".
One luser watched me make coffee like this and complained that I
drank too much coffee, and I should cut down. I swear I didn't kill
him on the spot for getting between me and the kettle.
When I got back to my desk, I washed it down with a can of Pepsi Max.
The luser didn't come near me all day.
Usually I don't bother with instant "coffee", but sometimes I need
the hit, and we haven't got a filter machine in the place yet.
--
Peter Corlett, Moseley, Birmingham, England. Tel. +44 7050 603311
"We in the House of Lords are never in touch with public opinion.
That makes us a civilised body." - A Woman of No Importance
(null)
> Mike Andrews (dsda...@DSDAPC03.okladot.state.ok.us) wrote:
[...]
>> Silly question. Ever hear of chocolate-covered coffee beans?
> Umm... That's a nice thing. I wonder where you can buy those in
> Israel. And I think you can.
[...]
I'd be tempted to post you some, but I suspect that the package would
be stored in some fairly nasty (hot) places on its travels and
wouldn't arrive in the same sort of condition as they were sent.
You might prefer to make your own. From the Caffeine FAQ:
Chocolate covered espresso beans
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You won't get single, glossy beans, but the taste is there!
1. Put dark roast coffee beans on a waxpaper-covered baking sheet.
2. Melt some chocolate by puting a container with the chocolate in a
pan of boiling water, stir the chocolate when it is getting hot.
Some experimentation regarding what chocolate to use is in place.
I used chocolate chips of from Girardelli. One should probably
aim for dark and not too sweet chocolate.
3. Pour the chocolate over the beans and smear it so that each bean
is covered - you should have a single layer of covered beans not
too far apart.
4. When the beans have cooled off a little bit, put the sheet in the
fridge/freezer.
5. When solid, break off a piece and enjoy.
Joe Thompson
Shultz" <jbsh...@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote:
> [2] MRE - Meals Ready to Eat, the military's standard field ration.
> Also known as Meals Rejected by Ethiopians, although the newer ones
> are actually quite tasty.
"MRE's -- three lies for the price of one!" -- Joe
Joe Thompson
<dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:
> In message <spam-26099...@user-37kba8p.dialup.mindspring.com>
> sp...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) wrote:
>
> : Instant grits are an offense to every right-thinking inhabitant of the
> : American South. -- Joe
>
> There are left-thinking ones?
They're endangered, but not extinct. -- Joe
Joe Thompson
> Gevalia Coffee, like Absolut Vodka, shows that Swedish marketing is
> world class. The products are low-class cheaply made swill that
> natives prefer to stay away from. But they sell well outside
> Scandinavia, because of marketing.
When I buy vodka, I buy Stolichnaya. No Absolut. And God help us all, no
Popov. And Smirnoff... blech.
I'm trying desperately to find a reliable source for Starka paper vodka. -- Joe