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Shmuel Metz
Nov 10, 2014, 3:36:01 AM11/10/14
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There is a Japanese cabbage pancake called Okonomiyaki, whose name
translates to something like however you want it, meaning that you
select the toppings you want. I got curious and looked for local
(Northern Virginia suburbs of DC) restaurants. What to my wondering
eyes should appear but that they translate it as "however *we* want
it"; the topping is seafood whether that's what you want or not. It
wouldn't be so bad if the name meant something else, but I'm
frustrated.
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translates to something like however you want it, meaning that you
select the toppings you want. I got curious and looked for local
(Northern Virginia suburbs of DC) restaurants. What to my wondering
eyes should appear but that they translate it as "however *we* want
it"; the topping is seafood whether that's what you want or not. It
wouldn't be so bad if the name meant something else, but I'm
frustrated.
--
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Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
Peter H. Coffin
Nov 10, 2014, 12:25:06 PM11/10/14
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:51:41 -0500, Shmuel Metz wrote:
> There is a Japanese cabbage pancake called Okonomiyaki, whose name
> translates to something like however you want it, meaning that you
> select the toppings you want. I got curious and looked for local
> (Northern Virginia suburbs of DC) restaurants. What to my wondering
> eyes should appear but that they translate it as "however *we* want
> it"; the topping is seafood whether that's what you want or not. It
> wouldn't be so bad if the name meant something else, but I'm
> frustrated.
Sad irony indeed. Some seafood on the thing is likely to be tough to
> There is a Japanese cabbage pancake called Okonomiyaki, whose name
> translates to something like however you want it, meaning that you
> select the toppings you want. I got curious and looked for local
> (Northern Virginia suburbs of DC) restaurants. What to my wondering
> eyes should appear but that they translate it as "however *we* want
> it"; the topping is seafood whether that's what you want or not. It
> wouldn't be so bad if the name meant something else, but I'm
> frustrated.
avoid; having katsuobushi on top, the thin-shaved smoked fish flakes, is
so ingrained into part of the presentation that asking for it without is
kind of like asking for buffalo wings with no sauce.
Makes 2.
100g (about 1 cup) flour
160ml (about 2/3 cup) water or broth
2 eggs
300g (~4 cups) shredded cabbage
You'll get a little better behavior from the batter if you mix a little
corn or potato starch into the flour; you don't want it to toughen up
much.
Mix up the flour, water, and eggs into a batter. Divide cabbage into two
piles on a hot oiled griddle (200C/400F) or put half in a skillet. Cover
each (or the one) with half the batter. Squish down with a spatula and
top with whatever your choice of topping may be. Sausage, tofu cubes,
bacon bits, salad shrimp, whatever. Cook for about 3 minutes, flip over,
and cook for about 4 minutes, then flip again for another 3. Plate, add
sauce and whatever else you want (I'm a big fan of mayo and steak sauce
here as well as the katsuobushi)
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Brian Kantor
Nov 10, 2014, 12:31:20 PM11/10/14
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In article <545feffd$4$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>,
"however the chef wants it" as it varies from restaurant to restaurant
and from region to region in Japan. Some I have found quite delicious
and some were downright disgusting. Nearly all of them featured squid
or octopus, and obligatory bonito flakes waving in the breeze.
My limited experience with Japanese food is that nearly every dish is
either entirely vegetarian, has seafood of some sort in it, or is pork.
That doesn't include the meat patty in the typical bento box, which
was almost always horse.
Nevertheless, I'm still fond of my local Izikaya. San Diego apparently
has a large enough asian population that poor Japanese restaurants don't do
well, and the good ones flourish.
- Brian
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>There is a Japanese cabbage pancake called Okonomiyaki, whose name
>translates to something like however you want it, meaning that you
>select the toppings you want. I got curious and looked for local
>(Northern Virginia suburbs of DC) restaurants. What to my wondering
>eyes should appear but that they translate it as "however *we* want
>it"; the topping is seafood whether that's what you want or not. It
>wouldn't be so bad if the name meant something else, but I'm
>frustrated.
I'm of the opinion that Okonomiyaki would be better translated as
>There is a Japanese cabbage pancake called Okonomiyaki, whose name
>translates to something like however you want it, meaning that you
>select the toppings you want. I got curious and looked for local
>(Northern Virginia suburbs of DC) restaurants. What to my wondering
>eyes should appear but that they translate it as "however *we* want
>it"; the topping is seafood whether that's what you want or not. It
>wouldn't be so bad if the name meant something else, but I'm
>frustrated.
"however the chef wants it" as it varies from restaurant to restaurant
and from region to region in Japan. Some I have found quite delicious
and some were downright disgusting. Nearly all of them featured squid
or octopus, and obligatory bonito flakes waving in the breeze.
My limited experience with Japanese food is that nearly every dish is
either entirely vegetarian, has seafood of some sort in it, or is pork.
That doesn't include the meat patty in the typical bento box, which
was almost always horse.
Nevertheless, I'm still fond of my local Izikaya. San Diego apparently
has a large enough asian population that poor Japanese restaurants don't do
well, and the good ones flourish.
- Brian
Richard Bos
Nov 10, 2014, 12:38:12 PM11/10/14
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br...@karoshi.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) wrote:
> My limited experience with Japanese food is that nearly every dish is
> either entirely vegetarian, has seafood of some sort in it, or is pork.
> That doesn't include the meat patty in the typical bento box, which
> was almost always horse.
Erm. Kobe beef? I associate Japanese food with beef much more than with
> My limited experience with Japanese food is that nearly every dish is
> either entirely vegetarian, has seafood of some sort in it, or is pork.
> That doesn't include the meat patty in the typical bento box, which
> was almost always horse.
pork.
Richard
Peter H. Coffin
Nov 10, 2014, 6:25:06 PM11/10/14
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On 10 Nov 2014 09:31:19 -0800, Brian Kantor wrote:
> My limited experience with Japanese food is that nearly every dish is
> either entirely vegetarian, has seafood of some sort in it, or is pork.
Even the vegetarian stuff USUALLY has fish in it. Japanese Buddhists
> My limited experience with Japanese food is that nearly every dish is
> either entirely vegetarian, has seafood of some sort in it, or is pork.
seem to think of fish as a smarter-than-average-carrots vegetable, and
they're not really too sure about birds. Dashi (bonito stock) is used
pervasively in Japanese food, probably more than the US uses corn syrup.
Dashi, soy sauce, and mirin, together are almost the essense of Japanese
seasoning. Consequently, most Western-style vegetarians end up either
crazy with frustrated rage and hunger or just give up and eat only plain
rice for the rest of their time there.
> That doesn't include the meat patty in the typical bento box, which
> was almost always horse.
sort that walks around on four legs, it's probably pork, beef, or horse
in that order. (Not Kobe beef though. That's *expensive*, Pound for
pound, Nccyr laptops are cheaper.) A good restaurant bento will probably
be rice, soup, a cut of fish or cephalopod, a vegetable side (with a
sauce that has dashi in it), and pickle. It's not a meal without pickle.
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Shmuel Metz
Nov 11, 2014, 5:18:58 PM11/11/14
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In <slrnm61t26....@nibelheim.ninehells.com>, on 11/10/2014
to contain invertebrates that I don't eat.
at 11:22 AM, "Peter H. Coffin" <hel...@ninehells.com> said:
>Sad irony indeed. Some seafood on the thing is likely to be tough
>to avoid; having katsuobushi on top, the thin-shaved smoked fish
>flakes, is so ingrained into part of the presentation that asking
>for it without is kind of like asking for buffalo wings with no
>sauce.
Fish is not an issue for me, but anything labelled seafood is likely
>Sad irony indeed. Some seafood on the thing is likely to be tough
>to avoid; having katsuobushi on top, the thin-shaved smoked fish
>flakes, is so ingrained into part of the presentation that asking
>for it without is kind of like asking for buffalo wings with no
>sauce.
to contain invertebrates that I don't eat.
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