Mets turned down by another GM candidate, Mike Chernoff, as source says team doesn't know what it's looking for

*ernie

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Oct 15, 2018, 10:55:54 PM10/15/18

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Even George Steinbrenner didn't have this kind of problem finding a
GM. Fred Wilpon must have some reputation among baseball people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mets-turned-down-by-another-gm-candidate-mike-chernoff-as-source-says-team-doesnt-know-what-its-looking-for/ar-BBOr1O8

ernie k.
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tmp

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Oct 16, 2018, 8:54:40 AM10/16/18

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Of course, what really should be happening is a search for a new owner. But we all know that will never happen. So around and around we go....

*ernie

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Oct 16, 2018, 11:22:03 PM10/16/18

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On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:54:38 -0700 (PDT), tmp <tmps...@gmail.com>
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Too bad that there's not a way to rid a team of unpopular owners who
fail over and over. New York City could target the Wilpons and the
Dolans for eminent domain, and then re-sell the teams to competent
ownership. If only.

ruben safir

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Oct 17, 2018, 6:24:20 AM10/17/18

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On 10/16/18 11:22 PM, *ernie wrote:
> Too bad that there's not a way to rid a team of unpopular owners who
> fail over and over. New York City could target the Wilpons and the
> Dolans for eminent domain, and then re-sell the teams to competent
> ownership. If only.

I don't hold the remorse for the Wilpons that others do. They have been
fine as owners. They have WS runs in 2015, and 2000, and competitive
teams in and around 2006 ... teams like this one have been the
exception, not the run. I don't want George Steinbrenner ownership,
although the Yankees as they are run know, have been impressive.

I want to develop a core of ballplayers that I care about and root for
over decades. If I have any complaint, it is that this team doesn't
have the talent pipeline that the RedSox, Yankees and Dodgers
consistently have. It has been better with Degrom, Harvey, Syndergard,
Wheeler, Matz, Fuemillia, Fuller, Conforto, Nimmo, Collin McHugh,
D'Arnaud, Lugo, Gsellesman

These are all Mets developed players most of which they didn't trade away.

tmp

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Oct 17, 2018, 8:21:19 AM10/17/18

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Well, since the Wilpons took over sole ownership in 2002, the team has had losing records in 11 of the 17 seasons since then. There is no way to look at that as a positive accomplishment.

I agree that the biggest problem is the lack of a consistent pipeline of talent coming up through their minor league system, especially position players, which is their primary weakness now. Conforto and Nimmo are a start, but it's not enough.

It all starts at the top.

Bob4Health

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Oct 17, 2018, 10:21:50 PM10/17/18

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Sadly, with the end of the reserve clause, there's very little to motivate a player to stay with one team, and every reason to leave. It's like working in high tech in the 80s and 90s. If you stayed anywhere too long, people asked what was wrong with you.

Building fan loyalty doesn't seem to be a value. Like everything else in life. player have in essence become disposable. But, above all,
Baseball remains a business, but this business is absolutely dependent on their customers, and developing a religious-like love, based on pure emotions for a bunch of athletes playing a game.

As such, it would seem that it would be much more logical to invest in keeping players that fans are familiar with. Never trade a fan favorite, it just makes no business sense.

It will only make the customers hate the corporation and management.

The Mets did put together some competitive teams. And, this year, if they didn't have all these damn injuries, just a few less, they would have been competitive. A few good bats makes the whole lineup better.

If the team had been basically healthy, people would be talking about what a brilliant manager Callaway was.