Matt Harvey Is Demoted to the Mets’ Bullpen

[*ernie]

Harvey says on a scale of 1 to 10, he's a 10 as far as being "pissed
off". Who cares if he's pissed? He has sucked since 2015 and should be
grateful he hasn't been shipped to the minors. If the Met's can get
anything for him in a trade, they should do it immediately.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/21/sports/baseball/matt-harvey-mets-bullpen.html

ernie k.
already...@hotmail.com

[Bob4Health]

I have defended every chance he gets, but at this point, he needs to follow the directions of the professionals that actually pay his salary. If he won't do his job, than they should legally be allowed to fire him with no severence.


He can't be sent to the minors, but the Mets have more better starters than him now. Maybe he can relearn to pitch. Right now, with this temper tantrum in evidence, his value as a trade parter is greatly reduced. No team wants an egotistic that can't perform.

[matt....@gmail.com]

On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 4:06:51 PM UTC-4, Bob4Health wrote:
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 8:30:28 AM UTC-7, *ernie wrote:
> > Harvey says on a scale of 1 to 10, he's a 10 as far as being "pissed
> > off". Who cares if he's pissed? He has sucked since 2015 and should be
> > grateful he hasn't been shipped to the minors. If the Met's can get
> > anything for him in a trade, they should do it immediately.
> >
> >
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/21/sports/baseball/matt-harvey-mets-bullpen.html
> >
> > ernie k.
> > already...@hotmail.com
>
> I have defended every chance he gets, but at this point, he needs to follow the directions of the professionals that actually pay his salary. If he won't do his job, than they should legally be allowed to fire him with no severence.
>

Not sure where that came from. He didn't like the idea at all (I wouldn't either if I were him) but he clearly took the role and said he would learn from it.

>
> He can't be sent to the minors, but the Mets have more better starters than him now. Maybe he can relearn to pitch. Right now, with this temper tantrum in evidence, his value as a trade parter is greatly reduced. No team wants an egotistic that can't perform.

He can be sent to the minors, any player can. But with 5 years of service time, he'd be forced to approve it or become a free agent.

With that said, I don't see him learning anything at the minor league level. Whatever is wrong with Matt appears to be mechanical, not an injury or anything wrong with his body. I think he can be fixed, whether or not the Mets are willing to take that time, I don't know.

[ruben safir]

On 04/24/2018 11:39 AM, matt....@gmail.com wrote:
> With that said, I don't see him learning anything at the minor league level. Whatever is wrong with Matt appears to be mechanical, not an injury or anything wrong with his body. I think he can be fixed, whether or not the Mets are willing to take that time, I don't know.

why do you say that? I don't know that at all. Physically, he is not
the same person he was before, for starters.

[Bob4Health]

After years, of hearing Mets announcers trying to turn everthing into a silver lining, watching him look lost the other night pitching the 9th
inning, it was amazing to hear the Mets announcers saying "This looks troublesome."

Callaway did leave him in with Familia ready to come in, and he did induce a ground ball double play.

Harvey had no command of many of pitchers, it was like watching a little league pitcher at times. He's got to embrace the idea that he has to pitch to one batter at a time, and throw strikes. His career may be over without a mental adjustment. He doesn't seem to recognize he's not the same person that threw a baseball years ago. The radar gun does not lie. The strike zone
hasn't changed. Harvey doesn't seem to recognize that he's not the same pitcher, or for that fact, human being he was in his youth.

He's got to be logical, and use his experience, and throw strikes. Instead, he's angry at everyone, who at this point are gambling on him with long odds. This will further make future employment impossible for him. He will not be coaching material at any level seems to have learned nothing.

Callaway is clearly trying to get that message across, who sees theirs still potential.

[*ernie]

I remember as a kid back in the late 60s reading in the NY POST about
some soccer team trading one of their players for a soccer ball. I was
thinking maybe the Mets could get a box of baseballs for Harvey.

[Ruben Safir]

matt....@gmail.com <matt....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 4:06:51 PM UTC-4, Bob4Health wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 8:30:28 AM UTC-7, *ernie wrote:
>> > Harvey says on a scale of 1 to 10, he's a 10 as far as being "pissed
>> > off". Who cares if he's pissed? He has sucked since 2015 and should be
>> > grateful he hasn't been shipped to the minors. If the Met's can get
>> > anything for him in a trade, they should do it immediately.
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/21/sports/baseball/matt-harvey-mets-bullpen.html
>> >
>> > ernie k.
>> > already...@hotmail.com
>>
>> I have defended every chance he gets, but at this point, he needs to follow the directions of the professionals that actually pay his salary. If he won't do his job, than they should legally be allowed to fire him with no severence.
>>
>
> Not sure where that came from. He didn't like the idea at all (I wouldn't either if I were him) but he clearly took the role and said he would learn from it.
>
>>
>> He can't be sent to the minors, but the Mets have more better starters than him now. Maybe he can relearn to pitch. Right now, with this temper tantrum in evidence, his value as a trade parter is greatly reduced. No team wants an egotistic that can't perform.
>
> He can be sent to the minors, any player can. But with 5 years of service time, he'd be forced to approve it or become a free agent.
>
> With that said, I don't see him learning anything at the minor league level.

He can definetely practice his mechanics down there.