Received Form SSA-821-BK
None2Special
way since his disability progressed. They have his disability insurance
listed as income, and his final short term disability payments from his
prior employer back in 05. This form asks for pay rates, etc...but he
has no hourly pay rate. What the heck is up with this? Should we
complete this ourselves, or take it to the local office, or call the 800
#? Jack, you've helped us in the past with issues, why would we get
this now and what would you suggest we do? Just receiving this is
stressful, not to mention the fear of screwing up his benefits by
completing something wrong.
Jack
They should have sent some type of explanation, e.g., earnings are
showing up in our system, a 3rd party reported that you have returned
to work, etc.
I would complete the form and state emphatically that he hasn't worked
in any way since his established onset date. Repeat the statement
multiple times throughout the form. Where they ask for "Employer,"
say "None."
It could be that the final disability pmts. from his employer somehow
showed up as wages and the system triggered the 821. In item 2 where
they ask you to explain why earnings are showing up, say "I do not
know," and repeat the statement that you have not worked since onset
date.
If possible, make a copy of the completed 821 for your records.
None2Special
The form states in box 2 "You Reported A Change In Work Activity" which
is not true for him in any way. I returned to work. I was previously a
stay at home mom, went to school, got my degree and started my career.
We have another family member that stays with us now to help out. I
called them last year to report my return to work status because they
said I had to report if I would make more than 10k a year...and then it
would write off the 1 for 2 I earn. They haven't stopped my payments
and haven't stated if there is something else I had to do for myself.
He still receives an extremely small amount from his LTD carrier
MetLife, which files it partially as earned income on a W2. The SSA-821
pre-sheet lists his income since he went out of work...including his
final half year wages, then this partial met-life payment for each year
since. What confuses me, is how to properly fill out each section that
asks for details for each of these company listings....especially date
work started, ended, hourly pay, etc. Each one states I stopped working
within 6 months because:
It's not like he worked to earn anything as a paid job in order to use
TWP or TTW or anything like that. Are they trying to put this towards
those limited trial periods?
So with the 2 different situations, how should I respond? I know this
form is for him and I won't mention the spouse benefit on it...and I
guess I can wing those fields I mentioned before. What about the spouse
bene? I just want to make sure I handle this the right way, obviously
I'm the one doing the business and I don't want to screw him...or our
family.
Jack
I am looking at a 2009 version of the SSA-821-BK.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-821.pdf
____________
The box 2 you talk about regarding "You Reported A Change In Work
Activity" must be on a pre-form unless my eyes are failing. I can't
find it on the 821. At any rate:
SSA-821-BK
Item II, 1, check "no."
Item II, 2, enter "I presume that any postings were for wages earned
prior to onset as well payments from employer's insurance carrier.
Otherwise, I don't know."
Item II, 3. A., Tell them in remarks section that there has been no
work activity since onset date.
You can repeat this for the B. and C. or just leave them blank.
Ignore the reference to 6 months. This pertains to people who
actually did work, but then stopped again in 6 months. Under certain
conditions, this work can be an unsuccessful work attempt. In your
case, there was no work activity so it's inapplicable.
Item 4. Leave boxes blank and enter in the "no" box: "I did no work
activity since onset date."
Item 5. Next to "no" block enter, "N/A did not work since onset."
Item 6. You could enter LTD pmts. (I assume that husband was not
govt. employee because those types of disability pmts. could reduce
his SSDI.)
Item 7. "N/A did not work since onset."
Item 8. Check the two "no" blocks
______
There can be no TWP issue if he hasn't worked since onset.
Also, regarding II.2., he could add that you reported your own
projected earnings which they misidentified as his, but I don't know
whether I'd want to open that can of worms. If you dutifully reported
your earnings and they made no reduction in the spouse's benefit amt.,
then it might be best to let it lie. Anyway, the issue with the 821
is his supposed work activity, not yours.
JW
Jack
(Jack) wrote:
>
>Item 4. Leave boxes blank and enter in the "no" box: "I did no work
>activity since onset date."
Correction: Make the entry next to the box, not in it.
None2Special
:) I figured that, thanks for clarification for anyone else who might
receive these also.
None2Special
Hi again,
The box 2 I mentioned, is actually part I #2...which they typed in "You
Reported A Change In Work Activity". Sorry that I missed that it was in
their part I section.
Everything you suggested matches perfectly with the form in my hand, and
your suggestions make perfect sense for our circumstances. I'm not
going to mention my income as you're right, it has nothing to do with his.
As for my income, with your experience, what is the best way to report
this income and make sure they receive and document it correctly? Up
until now, I faxed my first pay stubs to the local office with a cover
page explaining what it was and my opinion on my future earnings as she
requested. Since they first asked for the fax over the phone, we have
not heard anything further. I have not sent them additional faxes, but
I have just now hit the yearly threshold they said would then cause the
reduction of 1 for 2. Should I fax my most recent pay stub showing this
information, keep record of the fax, and if hear nothing more go back
onto the quiet mode?
Thanks.
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
>The box 2 I mentioned, is actually part I #2...which they typed in "You
>Reported A Change In Work Activity". Sorry that I missed that it was in
>their part I section.
Enter somewhere: " I did not report any work activity. There has been
no work activity since onset date."
>As for my income, with your experience, what is the best way to report
>this income and make sure they receive and document it correctly? Up
>until now, I faxed my first pay stubs to the local office with a cover
>page explaining what it was and my opinion on my future earnings as she
>requested. Since they first asked for the fax over the phone, we have
>not heard anything further. I have not sent them additional faxes, but
>I have just now hit the yearly threshold they said would then cause the
>reduction of 1 for 2. Should I fax my most recent pay stub showing this
>information, keep record of the fax, and if hear nothing more go back
>onto the quiet mode?
>
>Thanks.
When the issue pertains to disabled beneficiaries and TWPs / SGA, the
law requires them to give a receipt. Disabled beneficiaries should
insist on it.
You're talking now about work deductions under the earnings test for
non-disabled title II auxiliary beneficiaries. Send them whatever you
have as well as your own statement. Keep copies. Scanning through
the regulations and POMS, I couldn't find any requirement for them to
issue a receipt. For peace of mind, you might want to ask for a
receipt. If they don't accommodate you, then just let it rest.
None2Special
Thanks so much for your help with this. We now know how to return this
letter, and also to CYA with my earnings for title II aux ben.
:) Take care Jack.
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
>Thanks so much for your help with this. We now know how to return this
>letter, and also to CYA with my earnings for title II aux ben.
If you're sure that a withholding of your aux. benefit is is order and
they fail to make it within a reasonable period of time, you might
want to inquire further.
This is because even if you did everything right and you are without
fault in causing the overpayment, they'll still try to recover unless
recovery would defeat the purpose of title II or be against equity and
good conscience. These two legal concepts are discussed here:
http://ftp.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/404/404-0508.htm
§404.508 Defeat the purpose of Title II.
_________
http://ftp.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/404/404-0509.htm
§404.509 Against equity and good conscience; defined.
_________
When a family has at least two younger children and a spouse is
employed, it's often better for the spouse not to apply for benefits.
This will ensure that the disability max will be paid.
Relayer
> When a family has at least two younger children and a spouse is
> employed, it's often better for the spouse not to apply for benefits.
> This will ensure that the disability max will be paid.
Which is exactly what my idiot ex did. And she did npt qualify,
thereby shooting herself in the foot.
Jack
wrote:
I think that this lady wasn't working at first.
Also, I think that the local office didn't explain to her the
ramifications of going to work.
Jack
wrote:
And shooting the kids in the foot too because their benefits were
figured as if she were taking her full slice of the maximum pie even
tho her slice was reduced or cancelled altogether because of work
activity.
The local office should do a better job of explaining all the various
situations that can affect total family benefits.
Warf
fd4fba...@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
Was that your first, second, third or fourth ex?
Relayer
> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in news:89d95d22-f8af-4b97-a799-
> fd4fbaac9...@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Jul 8, 8:59 am, Sometimes-It's-Windswept@Jack's-Hill (Jack) wrote:
>
> >> When a family has at least two younger children and a spouse is
> >> employed, it's often better for the spouse not to apply for benefits.
> >> This will ensure that the disability max will be paid.
>
> > Which is exactly what my idiot ex did. And she did npt qualify,
> > thereby shooting herself in the foot.
>
> Was that your first, second, third or fourth ex?
I don't have multiple ex's. I have however, unlike you, have actually
had sex with a woman. Actually, more than one. I'll call you "Righty"
as left handers are typically known to be more intelligent.
Warf
2b53d3...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 8, 6:37 pm, Warf <Warf@Starship_Enterprise.com> wrote:
>> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in news:89d95d22-f8af-4b97-a799-
>> fd4fbaac9...@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Jul 8, 8:59 am, Sometimes-It's-Windswept@Jack's-Hill (Jack) wrote:
>>
>> >> When a family has at least two younger children and a spouse is
>> >> employed, it's often better for the spouse not to apply for benefits.
>> >> This will ensure that the disability max will be paid.
>>
>> > Which is exactly what my idiot ex did. And she did npt qualify,
>> > thereby shooting herself in the foot.
>>
>> Was that your first, second, third or fourth ex?
>
> I don't have multiple ex's. I have however, unlike you, have actually
> had sex with a woman. Actually, more than one.
Dream on and enjoy your fantasy. It's obviously all you have during the
short time interval beween now and when your lights go out.
> I'll call you "Righty"
> as left handers are typically known to be more intelligent.
Not everyone can be as intellectually gifted as you. Those of us who are
less gifted simply have to struggle through life as best we can. On the
bright side, I'll be pursuing my continuing struggle as well as the
pleasures of life long after you have reached room temperature.
Relayer
> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in news:2fff62e8-ea54-4d44-a037-
> 2b53d356c...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 6:37 pm, Warf <Warf@Starship_Enterprise.com> wrote:
> >> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in news:89d95d22-f8af-4b97-a799-
> >> fd4fbaac9...@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > On Jul 8, 8:59 am, Sometimes-It's-Windswept@Jack's-Hill (Jack) wrote:
>
> >> >> When a family has at least two younger children and a spouse is
> >> >> employed, it's often better for the spouse not to apply for benefits.
> >> >> This will ensure that the disability max will be paid.
>
> >> > Which is exactly what my idiot ex did. And she did npt qualify,
> >> > thereby shooting herself in the foot.
>
> >> Was that your first, second, third or fourth ex?
>
> > I don't have multiple ex's. I have however, unlike you, have actually
> > had sex with a woman. Actually, more than one.
>
> Dream on and enjoy your fantasy. It's obviously all you have during the
> short time interval beween now and when your lights go out.
>
> > I'll call you "Righty"
> > as left handers are typically known to be more intelligent.
>
> Not everyone can be as intellectually gifted as you. Those of us who are
> less gifted simply have to struggle through life as best we can.
I know. I feel for you eight (and I don't mean hand)
Twayne
In news:i1ap6v$v0p$3...@news.eternal-september.org,
Warf <Warf@Starship_Enterprise.com> typed:
...
Twayne
Relayer <relay...@aol.com> typed:
You let warf suck you into it again in a legitimate poster's post, relayer.
You used to have a redeeming value but ...
Relayer
> Innews:c37c8830-9e78-45bb...@j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,
> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> typed:
>
> - Show quoted text -
I had someone in "real life" say the same thing to me about dying last
week. In reality, Gary is intelligent and while an awful lot of people
on the internet hate him, I don't. He's quite knowledgeable in
acoustics and quite frankly, I am too tired and sick to comment on him
further. I was surprised with his on-line reputation as he seems to
hate and degrade everyone, whereas he knows nothing about any of us.
Q
news:f7e3ba1a-051e-419e...@s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 11, 10:12 am, "Twayne" <nob...@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote:
>> Innews:c37c8830-9e78-45bb...@j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.co
>> m, Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> typed:
Who the fuck do you think you are kidding? That's not a conclusion that
anyone of sound mind would reach after reading the recent barrage of
childish, ad-hominem, defamatory attacks by the resident gutter turds in
this cesspool. Like it or not, you and all of the other gutter this
cesspool have exposed themselves for what they are, despite their cowardly
anonymity, which at best is likely to be only temporary .
Relayer
>
> - Show quoted text -
Me saying "I had someone in "real life" say the same thing to me about
dying last
week. In reality, Gary is intelligent and while an awful lot of
people
on the internet hate him, I don't. He's quite knowledgeable in
acoustics and quite frankly, I am too tired and sick to comment on
him
further. I was surprised with his on-line reputation as he seems to
hate and degrade everyone, whereas he knows nothing about any of us. "
My mind is not sound with that statement?
Although I do have PTSD as a result of my surgery.
None2Special
That is exactly the case. I would not have taken a piece of my
children's pie had it been explained that there was a family max that
they were going to receive anyways. Especially knowing I would be going
back to school to prepare for a larger future of uncertainty. And then
my future career was going to cancel out part of what they should be
receiving from their father's disability.
But we're an honest family and made sure the local office knew the
entire story. They decided it was in my best interest to have it filed
and split including me. Of course, we didn't know the ramifications of
this action.
The one other thing I don't remember, if the max is met this year, does
it stop it for all future years as well? Or when January comes around,
does the family max kick back in until I meet the annual limit?
Jack, now that we've returned the SSA-821-BK, I now want to make sure I
properly have my income to date and future estimate documented. What
would you suggest as the best way to do that? They advised before they
would not issue receipts of any sort for it. They also advised any
overpayment would require reimbursement. Is faxing the local office an
ok way to do this? Or should I send it in via certified priority
mail...like we have with any other paperwork for my husband? And if by
mail, to the local office, or the same Baltimore location that the
SSA-821 went to?
Thanks again.
Jack
They will continue to adjust your benefit amt. based on your estimate
of earnings. In other words, if you are in deductions now based on
your earnings and you continue to work at that level, the max won't be
restored. You probably know also that your employer (if you're not
self-employed) sends SSA a W-2 at the end of the yr. and adjustments
are made if the amt. differs from estimates.
On the other issue, frankly I'm surprised that you did not return the
821 to the local office because they are the primary evaluators of
work activity even for disabled beneficiaries. (The DDS gets involved
in cases involving unsuccessful work attempts because these involve a
judgment of whether work stopped within six months due to worsening of
the impairment.) At any rate, for your work activity estimates as a
non-disabled aux, deal with the local office. I wouldn't incur the
cost of priority mail even tho they're not giving receipts, but keep
copies of everything. Rather than cert.mail, I'd first call the local
office and report estimated work activity and tell them you will
follow-up with a fax or snail mail. Ask for the rep's name even if
(s)he provides only a first name.
________
Earnings Test For Non-Disabled Beneficiaries
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/subchapterlist!openview&restricttocategory=03025
Q
news:16450d61-482b-427a...@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 12, 8:48 pm, Q <Q...@Q-continuum.com> wrote:
>> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote
>> innews:f7e3ba1a-051e-419e-a45a-8da51b8
> f3...@s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 11, 10:12 am, "Twayne" <nob...@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote:
>> >> Innews:c37c8830-9e78-45bb...@j4g2000yqh.googlegroups
>> >> .co m, Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> typed:
With regard to the issue of who know what about whom, here's a reality
chack for you.
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Barf trolls Usenet to get the attention he should have gotten from
Mama Kathryn. For ya see, mama K was not a very good mama. She pretty
much ignored Barfy and let him raise himself. Crocodile mamas are
better mamas. Mama frogs are better mamas. Hell, even mama tsetse
flies are better mamas!!! Not everyone is cut out to be a good
parent.
Can I get an amen from ya?
But there's a ray of sunshine. As Barfy's trolling here increases,
the incidence of stalking at Newton Beach playgrounds and schoolyards
decreases. Pedophilia's a heinous crime. Even gentle Jesus preached
violence against pedos. They tied millstones around their necks and
cast them into the sea. White pedos were dumped into the Dead Sea
while black pedos went into the Black Sea. Segregation was still
being practiced in those days.
Now gimme another amen!
None2Special
>
> They will continue to adjust your benefit amt. based on your estimate
> of earnings. In other words, if you are in deductions now based on
> your earnings and you continue to work at that level, the max won't be
> restored. You probably know also that your employer (if you're not
> self-employed) sends SSA a W-2 at the end of the yr. and adjustments
> are made if the amt. differs from estimates.
Thanks for that info.
> On the other issue, frankly I'm surprised that you did not return the
> 821 to the local office because they are the primary evaluators of
> work activity even for disabled beneficiaries. (The DDS gets involved
This is where they said to return it in their packet.
> in cases involving unsuccessful work attempts because these involve a
> judgment of whether work stopped within six months due to worsening of
> the impairment.) At any rate, for your work activity estimates as a
> non-disabled aux, deal with the local office. I wouldn't incur the
> cost of priority mail even tho they're not giving receipts, but keep
> copies of everything. Rather than cert.mail, I'd first call the local
> office and report estimated work activity and tell them you will
> follow-up with a fax or snail mail. Ask for the rep's name even if
> (s)he provides only a first name.
ok. That's what I did when I first reported that I was starting work.
I do have the rep's information. About how often would you suggest I
re-submit information? The last estimate she did was based on and for
last year. I haven't heard anything since then. I don't want to open a
can of worms in any way, but I also want to make sure I'm doing it right.
>
> ________
> Earnings Test For Non-Disabled Beneficiaries
>
> https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/subchapterlist!openview&restricttocategory=03025
Thanks for the link, it helped somewhat.
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
>On Tue, Jul-13-2010 11:26 AM, Jack wrote:
>>
>> They will continue to adjust your benefit amt. based on your estimate
>> of earnings. In other words, if you are in deductions now based on
>> your earnings and you continue to work at that level, the max won't be
>> restored. You probably know also that your employer (if you're not
>> self-employed) sends SSA a W-2 at the end of the yr. and adjustments
>> are made if the amt. differs from estimates.
>
>Thanks for that info.
>
>> On the other issue, frankly I'm surprised that you did not return the
>> 821 to the local office because they are the primary evaluators of
>> work activity even for disabled beneficiaries. (The DDS gets involved
>
>This is where they said to return it in their packet.
I know. I should have worded it differently to say that it was
surprising to learn that they didn't request return to the local
office.
>> in cases involving unsuccessful work attempts because these involve a
>> judgment of whether work stopped within six months due to worsening of
>> the impairment.) At any rate, for your work activity estimates as a
>> non-disabled aux, deal with the local office. I wouldn't incur the
>> cost of priority mail even tho they're not giving receipts, but keep
>> copies of everything. Rather than cert.mail, I'd first call the local
>> office and report estimated work activity and tell them you will
>> follow-up with a fax or snail mail. Ask for the rep's name even if
>> (s)he provides only a first name.
>
>ok. That's what I did when I first reported that I was starting work.
>I do have the rep's information. About how often would you suggest I
>re-submit information? The last estimate she did was based on and for
>last year. I haven't heard anything since then. I don't want to open a
>can of worms in any way, but I also want to make sure I'm doing it right.
You should advise them whenever there has been a change in your pay.
>> ________
>> Earnings Test For Non-Disabled Beneficiaries
>>
>> https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/subchapterlist!openview&restricttocategory=03025
>
>Thanks for the link, it helped somewhat.
Link was offered because I don't really have a good grasp of the
earnings test. It's a non-disability issue in which I was rarely
involved and even then it was many, many moons ago. E.g., you'll see
references to grace periods and I don't know whether this pertains
only to primary beneficiaries who are drawing old-age retirement
benefits, or also includes title II auxiliaries like yourself. That's
just one example.
None2Special
Thanks for the help on all of this. We received a response saying:
"This letter is only a decision about how your work affects your
disability payments. The law also requires us to review your medical
condition to make sure you are still disabled under our rules."
It then says the file will be forwarded to the DDS in our state, if they
need additional info they'll tell us, and we'll receive another letter
when the review is finished. So, does this mean we aren't going to get
the short or long form, but are being thrown into a full review?
On top of this, we've had our answering machine full of automated
messages about the TTW program and how it would prevent medical reviews.
WTH? Are they trying to make people second guess their condition's
progression and own doctor's statements? What should we really expect?
SixStringStu
"None2Special" <none2s...@invalid.not> wrote in message
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hasn't improved.
If you have looked into TTW? Understand that at the end of nine months it
could possibly trigger a full CDR, so it's best to get it out of the way.
;-)
Understand also, that if you have been on disability for more then two
years, your work might not trigger a CDR as long as your income is far
enough below SGA. Regular reporting and paying of your taxes works both ways
for us "working, but honesty is ALLWAYS the best policy.
HTH
Johnny
> "None2Special" <none2spec...@invalid.not> wrote in message
>
> news:i5bfev$ejm$1...@none2special.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On Fri, Jul-16-2010 12:28 PM, Jack wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:41:20 -0400, None2Special
Have things changed since 2005? Because my buddy Jeff had his
disability terminated after working, part time, for 12 months. He only
worked 3 days a week(24 hours) at slightly above min wage, but got a
notice from SSA that he was no longer eligible to receive benefits.
The dummy never appealed, but just last year he reapplied, when he
should have just needed to be redetermined? That's what a DDS employee
told him he had to do. Then he spoke with the local office, got
expedited benefits?, and then lost those.They(SSA) said since his
original claim in which he was disabled and got approved, they felt he
was no longer disabled.He had already "reapplied" and was turned down,
he appealed that decision. He's waiting to go before an ALJ, but man,
it's taking a LONG time:-( Quite a screwed up affair to say the
least. Johnny
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
The local office sounds a bit disorganized and confused. You said
that the beneficiary did no work. The letter they sent you applies to
those people who have worked and completed the TWP but their earnings
were below the SGA level, and they have a MIE impairment (medical
improvement expected). Those folks get CDRs, not merely the short
form questionnaire. Same is true for a certain minority of MIPs
(medical improvement possible) whose work was under SGA.
In the other kind of review situation, a regularly-scheduled medical
review, i.e., where no work has been performed, the system pulls up
the file according to a chronological schedule based on whether you're
MIE, MIP, or MINE. At that point, further data are entered to help
them decide whether it would be worthwhile to do a CDR and terminate
benefits. If not, they send you the short form questionnaire, 90% of
which result in deferrals. It costs about $100 to process a short
form vs. 10X that much to do a CDR. So if they think that you haven't
improved medically, they send you the short form. This is enough to
satisfy Congress.
To answer your question, if the DDS realizes that your case has
erroneously been identified as a work CDR and it is not time for the
regularly scheduled medical review, they will tell you to forget the
whole matter. If they realize that your case has erroneously been
identified as a work CDR but your MIP or MINE review is due -- I
presume that you're not MIE as they usually get CDRs every 18 months
-- they will have your case profiled to decide whether a CDR is
worthwhile. A significant majority of MIPs and MINE's receive the
short form questionnaire. Your answers for the most part will
determine whether they do a CDR. If they do send the short form, I
can furnish a link that shows how they evaluate your answers. If they
think that you are a good candidate for a CDR, you'll get the long
form and a CDR is imminent.
The problem is that the DDS defers to the local office in most work
activity issues. If the DDS fails to see that you did no work and are
not due a work CDR, they will do a work CDR.
The TTW is purely voluntary. Ignore the pressure, or if it bothers
you, tell them to cease as you are unable to work.
None2Special
Thanks, that helps clarify what to possibly expect. We'll take the wait
and see approach. The condition for him has worsened since onset and
will continue to progress. There is no improvement possible as it's a
long term degrading disease with no cure.
None2Special
> You will most likely go into a full CDR. Not to worry if your condition
> hasn't improved.
> If you have looked into TTW? Understand that at the end of nine months it
> could possibly trigger a full CDR, so it's best to get it out of the way.
> ;-)
>
> Understand also, that if you have been on disability for more then two
> years, your work might not trigger a CDR as long as your income is far
> enough below SGA. Regular reporting and paying of your taxes works both ways
> for us "working, but honesty is ALLWAYS the best policy.
> HTH
>
>
We're always honest about our situation. My husband will be in a steady
progression until he's out of our lives. It's been 5 years since they
finally started paying his SSDI, after we honestly provided everything
they wanted.
It's just the ignorance within the system that is bugging me. I work,
not him. I report earnings, including the part of his LTD insurance
that must be reported and it causes an issue. Again, more ignorance,
stress and aggravation.
SixStringStu
"Johnny" <jrf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:907d607a-2072-4854...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
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Did he report his work activity. And was it less then two years that he had
been on disability?
Johnny
Have to ask him about that, get back with the details :-) Johnny
Jack
As Stu noted, and I overlooked, work activity per se shall not trigger
a CDR if the beneficiary has been on the rolls for at least 24 months.
The review that SSA is contemplating may be the regularly-scheduled
review, even though their correspondence to you suggests that it is
based on work activity. If this is actually the regularly-scheduled
review and your husband's impairment is rated as MINE, they will
probably send the short form.
None2Special
Thanks Jack, and others that have replied too. I'll wait and see what
happens with his case. If they start a CDR and I receive the forms,
I'll make sure to hop on here again as I'm sure I'll have questions.
None2Special
Hi again Jack,
We were sent the SSA-454-BK, with directions to return it to the local
office by mail. For some reason they sent 2 copies and 2 return
envelopes mailed 1 day apart. This is a lot to fill in. Now what?
This is absurd, so much money being wasted by them to confirm what
everyone already knows.
What is the best way to proceed with this? Obviously return this form
completed asap, but is there anything to make sure we do to keep this in
order?
Thanks
Jack
Can't explain why they sent duplicate 454s; it sounds like another
botch job. Also cannot explain why they did not send SSA-827s which
is your authorization or permission to contact the medical sources.
Just complete the 454s to the best of your ability, making sure to
include all medical sources who are treating for the disabling
conditions.
None2Special
Ok, we did find the SSA-827, 2 copies in each packet. There is also a
field observation report form that says to be used in lieu of
SSA-3367...which obviously we don't complete...but it seems the local
office does. Should we just mail this in their envelope, or somehow go
sit in line at the office all day?
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
Mail everything to the designated office.
None2Special
Ok, thanks for the help again. This is just nuts, all because I went to
work. So, let's stress out the spouse and the person with the
disability all over again. Just a rant to vent. Take it easy.
Jack
news:i8nt2p$9el$1...@none2special.eternal-september.org:
Why are you whining about the consequences of a situation that you
created unnecessarily? You should have just continued to sit on your fat
ass and collect your free money like a good little societal parasite.
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
In FY 2004 3.6% of cases went to CDR and the CDR cessation rate was
11.4%
http://www.ssa.gov/oig/ADOBEPDF/audittxt/A-07-05-15094.htm
Compared to 60-70% of initial claims denied. This is because of a
1984 legal requirement called the medical improvement review standard
which requires SSA to jump through more legal hoops in CDRs.
The URL is not clear as to whether these full medical CDRs include
only those that arose from the regularly-scheduled reexams, or also
those full medical CDRs that were triggered by work activity , i.e.,
TWP was used up, work was not SGA, but the person was on the rolls for
less than two years. At any rate, your description of your husband's
case suggests that his odds of cessation are less than 11%.
None2Special
Thanks, that eases my mind as I fill out these forms today for him.
It's the multiple levels of incompetence I'm seeing that makes it very
stressful when I have to think about my family's well-being. Hell, if
they would find him a cure and a way to repair all of the damage done
already, he would be happy to get back to his old self. But, we know
that's a fantasy in our lifetime and he'll continue to progress in the
downward spiral.
Jack
<none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
>Thanks, that eases my mind as I fill out these forms today for him.
>It's the multiple levels of incompetence I'm seeing that makes it very
>stressful when I have to think about my family's well-being.
Yeah, our big, bloated govt. is so efficient.
(Sarcasm off)
> Hell, if
>they would find him a cure and a way to repair all of the damage done
>already, he would be happy to get back to his old self. But, we know
>that's a fantasy in our lifetime and he'll continue to progress in the
>downward spiral.
It's bad enough when a debilitating illness hits the geezer set, but
when it hits a younger individual in his/her working prime with a
family to support . . . .
None2Special
> On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 10:04:38 -0400, None2Special
> <none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, that eases my mind as I fill out these forms today for him.
>> It's the multiple levels of incompetence I'm seeing that makes it very
>> stressful when I have to think about my family's well-being.
>
> Yeah, our big, bloated govt. is so efficient.
>
> (Sarcasm off)
>
Yea, just love it. ;)
>> Hell, if
>> they would find him a cure and a way to repair all of the damage done
>> already, he would be happy to get back to his old self. But, we know
>> that's a fantasy in our lifetime and he'll continue to progress in the
>> downward spiral.
>
> It's bad enough when a debilitating illness hits the geezer set, but
> when it hits a younger individual in his/her working prime with a
> family to support . . . .
It's then more than just an oh my...it's an oh shit and many other
expletives and cry sessions in the shower. I'm glad we have a country
like ours in general, it's the BS whoopsies that get old.
K, I'm off the soapbox now. Thanks for the help again, it's always
appreciated.
Michael Moffett
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:43:01 -0400, None2Special
> <none2s...@invalid.not> wrote:
>
> >We received form SSA-821-BK for my husband. He has not worked in any
> >way since his disability progressed. They have his disability insurance
> >listed as income, and his final short term disability payments from his
> >prior employer back in 05. This form asks for pay rates, etc...but he
> >has no hourly pay rate. What the heck is up with this? Should we
> >complete this ourselves, or take it to the local office, or call the 800
> >#? Jack, you've helped us in the past with issues, why would we get
> >this now and what would you suggest we do? Just receiving this is
> >stressful, not to mention the fear of screwing up his benefits by
> >completing something wrong.
>
> They should have sent some type of explanation, e.g., earnings are
> showing up in our system, a 3rd party reported that you have returned
> to work, etc.
>
> I would complete the form and state emphatically that he hasn't worked
> in any way since his established onset date. Repeat the statement
> multiple times throughout the form. Where they ask for "Employer,"
> say "None."
>
> It could be that the final disability pmts. from his employer somehow
> showed up as wages and the system triggered the 821. In item 2 where
> they ask you to explain why earnings are showing up, say "I do not
> know," and repeat the statement that you have not worked since onset
> date.
>
> If possible, make a copy of the completed 821 for your records.
HI JACK I was not sure how to reach you or add you as a friend or anything but you seem to understand this stuff and I am on the verge of a heart attack I think. I just put a post up asking for help if you have time and see it could you please find it in your heart to maybe give me a little advice?? Thank you so much for your time and help!!
Michael Moffett
jer...@juno.com
person who used to work at Social Security appears to have died. The
private newsgroup he created no longer functions and he does not post
there. He had the good info and knew what he was talking about. The
fact he has not posted for so long seems to indicate he is no longer
around--otherwise he would still be postiing on his private group.
Geraldine Abrahamson
news:7km5j9p43ipn83ues...@4ax.com:
-----Moffett bull-crap snipped---
> Not sure who contacted you (who called themselves "Jack"), but the
> person who used to work at Social Security appears to have died. The
> private newsgroup he created no longer functions and he does not post
> there. He had the good info and knew what he was talking about. The
> fact he has not posted for so long seems to indicate he is no longer
> around--otherwise he would still be postiing on his private group.
are failing, Geraldine.
In a post to this cesspool late last year, your fellow gutter turd, self-
proclaimed sociopath and life-long societal parasite, James Stuart Hodges
(aka sixstringstu), stated the following:
"I spoke with our Jack the other day, he's doing as best he can and still
taking care of the warrior princess."
Also, your beloved "WayBack, BroJack Jack Shitwad Wesolowski" is still
trolling and spamming several newsgroups on the Usenet. One of the nyms
that he is currently using is CC Rider. Look him up. I'd give you a few
hints on where to find him, but it's apparent that your deteriorating
mental faculties could use some exercise.
Jack Wesolowski, a 70-year old, mentally-ill, retired SSD worker, foul-
mouthed bigot, racist, liar, spammer and troll.
Here's an to psychopath Jack Wesolowski from rec.sport.boxing
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.boxing/msg/336baad3954b6f51?...
http://tinyurl.com/7ldhq3b
"Way Back Jack, his mother licks my crack,
Then she sucks my dick until it's yellah.
An' his mother-fuckin' fathah doesn't so much as bother
To use some spittle when he's bung-holin' little
Boys, before they're rollin' in the shower, their 'nads all a'
swollen,
While our perverted faggot Jack laps up all their bloody turds.
He's a real low-life fellah, whose perversion escapes mere words
And one from alt.native, May 4, 2002.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.native/msg/0f12476019613f13?dmode=...
http://tinyurl.com/6ugweze
Brother Jack is a racist bigot
His mouth is a toxic old spigot
He spews out his hate
He never can wait
To find some more dolts who will dig it!
We know a white jerk named Jack
Who really wants to be black
He calls himself "brother"
Wears clothes from his mother(*)
The truth is he's just a hack
We see his rantings as racist bile
His words typically ugly and vile
The master of hate
Thank God he won't mate
Let us leave him alone for awhile
Jack Wesolowski, aka
CC Rider
Bob Cain (resurrected)
joe momma
farting boar
diane roselles
dr jackal
Repeal Obama
Mothzer Roselles
Xavier
Amber Travsky
Vladimir Tschenko Badenovsky
Off the moonbat
A liberal's worst nightmare
Swatting Moonbatz
Ruth Chilton
That Sleazy Cunt Piglosi
Obama Nation is Abomination
ObamaNation=Abomination
Let it Rock
Nobama
Repeal Obama
Mother Roselles
Swatting Moonbatz
Amber Travsky
Gary Sokolisch
Weary Bruiser 1 reti...@home.net
Vladimir Badenovsky
Mike Gibson's Ghost
Gary Sokolosch
Gary Sakolich
THE REAL GARY
GARY IN ANIMAL RESEARCH
GARY THE "ENGINEER"
Calhoun
Bobby Fuller
Calhoon
Jack (windswept@home.)
JackW (windswept@home)
Windswept@home. (jack)
BroJack
Bro Jack
brojac...@my-deja.com
waybackjack
way back jack
jackweso
JackWesolowski
jackw...@email.msn.com (brojac...@my-deja.com)
Jack Wesolowski (wesolow...@freewwweb.com)
BroJ...@windswept.net (BroJack)
Windswept@Home (Jack W)
jackw...@email.msn.com (brojac...@my-deja.com)
Jack from waaaayyyyyBack
John F Wesolowski
3045 Old Washington Rd
Westminster, MD 21157
(410) 876-6914
http://tinyurl.com/6cv8t2e
jer...@juno.com
>> <dci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>-----Moffett bull-crap snipped---
>
>
You are the self-proclaimed sociopath (as documented by your
nym-shifting postings) AND by your own posted admissions in this group
that you do NOT buy insurance to cover unanticipated future expenses.
You expect the public to pick up the cost of your medical and other
expenses. Hence, you ARE the parasite on society.
Geraldine Abrahammson
4ax.com:
>>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:04:31 -0700 (PDT), Michael Moffett
>>> <dci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>self->proclaimed sociopath and life-long societal parasite
"In a post to this cesspool late last year, your fellow gutter turd,
"I spoke with our Jack the other day, he's doing as best he can and still
taking care of the warrior princess.""
>
to your disingenuous drivel. So, the laugh's on your failing memory,
Gerald/Geraldine Abrahamson. .
> You are the self-proclaimed sociopath (as documented by your
> nym-shifting postings) AND by your own posted admissions in this group
> that you do NOT buy insurance to cover unanticipated future expenses.
> You expect the public to pick up the cost of your medical and other
> expenses. Hence, you ARE the parasite on society.
coverage I have had in the past or what I have now. Secondly, you really
shouldn't believe everything that you read on the UseNet. Lastly, I
don't expect society to pick up the cost of any of my expenses. Medicare
isn't something that I chose. It was forced upon me by the government.
If you are not on Medicare yet, you will be, and at that point according
to your own line of reasoning you will be a parasite on society too.
jer...@juno.com
<Geraldine@Jim&Suzie'sFloridaShithole.> wrote:
>
>First of all, Geraldine, you know nothing watsoever about what insurance
>coverage I have had in the past or what I have now. Secondly, you really
>shouldn't believe everything that you read on the UseNet. Lastly, I
>don't expect society to pick up the cost of any of my expenses. Medicare
>isn't something that I chose. It was forced upon me by the government.
>If you are not on Medicare yet, you will be, and at that point according
>to your own line of reasoning you will be a parasite on society too.
health insurance and/or other medical coverage PAID BY YOU. I asked
that question specifically to learn if you were following your own
rules. Medicare is incorporated into virtually ALL medical insurance
policies in order for the companies to avoid costs and increase
profits by shifting those costs to the govt, so Medicare covers most
people.
You said NO, you did NOT have health insurance.
Hence, by your own admission, you ARE a parasite on society. I cited
that fact and publicly identified YOU as a parasite on society because
you were NOT paying your own way because you did not INTEND to do so.
So go away, Parasite. We know what you really are. It is YOUR choice.
jer...@uno.who
news:lkvaj99a39m29g38g...@4ax.com:
with truth and fact because you NEVER cite references.
jer...@juno.com
>It's impossible to confront the fabricated drivel in your pontifications
>with truth and fact because you NEVER cite references.
It was YOUR posting, so is it true--or not? LOL !! You can't keep your
pile of BS from toppling and killing you. ROFLMAO !!!
jer...@uno.me
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:08:02 GMT, jer...@uno.who wrote:
>
>>It's impossible to confront the fabricated drivel in your pontifications
>>with truth and fact because you NEVER cite references.
>
> You mean you can NOT keep track of all the BS you have spread around?
the post about which you are lying are you unable to comprehend?
> It was YOUR posting, so is it true--or not? LOL !!
I'm certainly not going to comment on your fabricated BS rendition of the
content that you claim it contains.
> You can't keep your pile of BS from toppling and killing you. ROFLMAO !!!
ago. So, either provide the requested reference or admit to being the BS'er
and coward that everyone knows you are.
jer...@juno.com
>jer...@juno.com wrote in news:jrmdj9lmk2i8hmlfq...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:08:02 GMT, jer...@uno.who wrote:
>>
>>>It's impossible to confront the fabricated drivel in your pontifications
>>>with truth and fact because you NEVER cite references.
>>
>> You mean you can NOT keep track of all the BS you have spread around?
>
>I meant what I said. Exactly what part of the request for a reference to
>the post about which you are lying are you unable to comprehend?
quoted it in my response to you--calling YOU a parasite on society.
You know you posted it. If you can't find it, that is YOUR problem.
>> It was YOUR posting, so is it true--or not? LOL !!
>
>I can't comment on a post for which you refuese to provide a reference, and
>I'm certainly not going to comment on your fabricated BS rendition of the
>content that you claim it contains.
me calling you what you are. If you can NOT find the postings with the
word "parasite" in this newsgroup, then you are the biggest documented
fool on the Internet.
>> You can't keep your pile of BS from toppling and killing you. ROFLMAO !!!
>
>If piled-high BS were able to kill, you would have been dead a long time
>ago. So, either provide the requested reference or admit to being the BS'er
>and coward that everyone knows you are.
leaves only YOU as the spreader of BS.
jer...@uno.who
news:9b9gj9dpvust2358h...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:14:54 GMT, jer...@uno.me wrote:
>
>>jer...@juno.com wrote in
>>news:jrmdj9lmk2i8hmlfq...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:08:02 GMT, jer...@uno.who wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's impossible to confront the fabricated drivel in your
>>>>pontifications with truth and fact because you NEVER cite
>>>>references.
>>>
>>> You mean you can NOT keep track of all the BS you have spread
>>> around?
>>
>>I meant what I said. Exactly what part of the request for a reference
>>to the post about which you are lying are you unable to comprehend?
>
> The part where you said you did NOT have insurance. You posted it. I
> quoted it in my response to you--calling YOU a parasite on society.
> You know you posted it. If you can't find it, that is YOUR problem.
produce it, your assertions are just fabricated BS, for which you are well
known, and have no basis in fact.
>>> It was YOUR posting, so is it true--or not? LOL !!
>>
>>I can't comment on a post for which you refuese to provide a
>>reference, and I'm certainly not going to comment on your fabricated
>>BS rendition of the content that you claim it contains.
>
> You don't want to comment on your own postings where YOU got caught by
> me calling you what you are.
provide the subject, author and date of the post, or simply the message ID,
so that I can look it up and expose you as the BS'er and liar that you are.
> If you can NOT find the postings with the
> word "parasite" in this newsgroup, then you are the biggest documented
> fool on the Internet.
"parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any my time reading
through them in order to find comments that you claim were made, but refuse
to reference, then you are the biggest documented fool on the Internet.
>>> You can't keep your pile of BS from toppling and killing you.
>>> ROFLMAO !!!
>>
>>If piled-high BS were able to kill, you would have been dead a long
>>time ago. So, either provide the requested reference or admit to being
>>the BS'er and coward that everyone knows you are.
>
> The fact I am not dead is proof I am not spreading BS (per you). That
> leaves only YOU as the spreader of BS.
exists only between your ears.
jer...@juno.com
>Quite the contrary, Geraldine. It's your problem because if you refuse to
>produce it, your assertions are just fabricated BS, for which you are well
>known, and have no basis in fact.
>>>I can't comment on a post for which you refuese to provide a
>>>reference, and I'm certainly not going to comment on your fabricated
>>>BS rendition of the content that you claim it contains.
>>
>> You don't want to comment on your own postings where YOU got caught by
>> me calling you what you are.
>
>I'd love to comment on your BS and your twisting of the truth. Just
>provide the subject, author and date of the post, or simply the message ID,
>so that I can look it up and expose you as the BS'er and liar that you are.
newsgroup. Deal with it.
>> If you can NOT find the postings with the
>> word "parasite" in this newsgroup, then you are the biggest documented
>> fool on the Internet.
You know they are real because you did, factually, find them.
>There are upward of 1000 postings to this cesspool which contain the word
>"parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any my time reading
>through them in order to find comments that you claim were made, but refuse
>to reference, then you are the biggest documented fool on the Internet.
Others? I slammed your posting(s)--HARD. Factually. Based on the facts
contained in YOUR postings (i.e. NOT my opinion). Now you want me to
PROVE it was you? LOL !!! My response was to one of your nyms. I am
not going to bother to figure out which one. I don't bother to
remember all your nyms. You mean YOU can't remember which of your nyms
was used to post what, where, OR when? ROFLMAO !!!
You are a public joke and everyone knows it. You are AFRAID.
Go ahead Parasite, make our day even more hilarious!!
jer...@uno.u
news:bmoij9peum0vm57ao...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:18:47 GMT, jer...@uno.who wrote:
>
>>Quite the contrary, Geraldine. It's your problem because if you
>>refuse to produce it, your assertions are just fabricated BS, for
>>which you are well known, and have no basis in fact.
>
> LOL !!
>
>>>>I can't comment on a post for which you refuese to provide a
>>>>reference, and I'm certainly not going to comment on your fabricated
>>>>BS rendition of the content that you claim it contains.
>>>
>>> You don't want to comment on your own postings where YOU got caught
>>> by me calling you what you are.
>>
>>I'd love to comment on your BS and your twisting of the truth. Just
>>provide the subject, author and date of the post, or simply the
>>message ID, so that I can look it up and expose you as the BS'er and
>>liar that you are.
>
> I cite YOUR posting(s)--and my response(s) to it (them)--in THIS
> newsgroup. Deal with it.
capable of twisting words, taking statements out of context and fabricating
lies.
>>> If you can NOT find the postings with the
>>> word "parasite" in this newsgroup, then you are the biggest
>>> documented fool on the Internet.
>
> I don't have to find them. You want them found. So, you look for them.
cesspool containg the word "parasite" did not exist. I simploy did a quick
google-groups search for the word "parasite" that was used in posts to this
cesspool, and estimated that there were upward of 1000. So the laugh is on
you, scumbag.
>>There are upward of 1000 postings to this cesspool which contain the
>>word "parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any my time
>>reading through them in order to find comments that you claim were
>>made, but refuse to reference, then you are the biggest documented
>>fool on the Internet.
>
> contained in YOUR postings (i.e. NOT my opinion).
life, all you are capable of doing is twisting words, takeing statements
out of context and fabricating lies for the purpose of creating what you
think is a legitimate argument.
> Now you want me to PROVE it was you?
reference to the post which you claim exists so that I can show that your
latest claims are in fact just the most recent example of the bull-shit
fabrications and lies that you have been spewing in this cesspool for the
past several years.
> LOL !!! My response was to one of your nyms. I am
> not going to bother to figure out which one. I don't bother to
> remember all your nyms. You mean YOU can't remember which of your nyms
> was used to post what, where, OR when? ROFLMAO !!!
shit that you throw out when you don't have a legitimate argument. The
fact of the matter is that you don't need to remember any of my nyms.
After all, as you have recently said, all that is necessary in order to
find the post that you claim exists, is to search for the word "parasite"
contained in posts to this cesspool.
> You are a public joke and everyone knows it.
and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of shit, but
that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
`
> You are AFRAID.
Afraid of what?
> Go ahead Parasite, make our day even more hilarious!!
job, if you don't mind I'll just sit on the sidelines and laugh.
jer...@juno.com
>What kind of bull-shit reply is that.
>I simploy did a quick google-groups search for the word "parasite" that was used in posts to this
>cesspool
previously. You didn't bother to look more closely because you knew
what it contained--which you do not deny.
>>>There are upward of 1000 postings to this cesspool which contain the
>>>word "parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any my time
>>>reading through them in order to find comments that you claim were
>>>made, but refuse to reference, then you are the biggest documented
>>>fool on the Internet.
What you have NOT stated is how many of those were by me in response
to you. ROFLMAO !! Well, Parasite, what say you now?
>>I slammed your posting(s)--HARD. Factually. Based on the facts
>> contained in YOUR postings (i.e. NOT my opinion).
>You're only capable of slamming someone in your dreams, douchebag. In real
>life, all you are capable of doing is twisting words, takeing statements
>out of context and fabricating lies for the purpose of creating what you
>think is a legitimate argument.
exist to live off the work of others. You ARE a "taker"--not a
"maker".
>I never asked you to prove anything. I simply asked you to provide a
>reference to the post which you claim exists so that I can show that your
>latest claims are in fact just the most recent example of the bull-shit
>fabrications and lies that you have been spewing in this cesspool for the
>past several years.
it yourself.
>After all, as you have recently said, all that is necessary in order to
>find the post that you claim exists, is to search for the word "parasite"
>contained in posts to this cesspool.
identified you ARE a parasite on society--and it detailed "how and
why" you ARE a parasite.
>The only public joke in this cesspool is you; but because you are stupid
>and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of shit, but
>that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
>
>> You are AFRAID.
>
>Afraid of what?
publicly identified. SHAME is the reason.
>> Go ahead Parasite, make our day even more hilarious!!
>
>It's hard to outdo a clown like you. So, since you are doing such a good
>job, if you don't mind I'll just sit on the sidelines and laugh.
because you are TOO AFRAID to identify yourself and use your real
e-mail address. I am NOT AFRAID of you. You are the publicly-
documented clown and coward. Go away, little girl, or you might start
to annoy to your parents--and they will put you to bed for your nap.
jer...@uno.uno
news:43hlj9dpfil3tqs0o...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 00:44:00 GMT, jerryab@uno.u wrote:
>
>>What kind of bull-shit reply is that.
>
> It is your kind of bull-shit. And you lap it up.
what's my kind of bull shit, that's just another one of your bull-shit
opinions.
>>I simploy did a quick google-groups search for the word "parasite"
>>that was used in posts to this cesspool
>
> Which means YOU FOUND IT.
posts to this cespool that contain the word "parasite".
>Just like you found that 2011 post previously
2011 is no longer accessible, and the present new google groups search
engine does not have the same capabilities.
> You didn't bother to look more closely because you knew
> what it contained--which you do not deny.
looking more closely. Also, it's not possible to deny something that you
either can't or won't produce.
>>>>There are upward of 1000 postings to this cesspool which contain the
>>>>word "parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any my
>>>>time reading through them in order to find comments that you claim
>>>>were made, but refuse to reference, then you are the biggest
>>>>documented fool on the Internet.
>
> You are the biggest parasite on the Internet--as stated previously.
> What you have NOT stated is how many of those were by me in response
> to you. ROFLMAO !! Well, Parasite, what say you now?
>>>I slammed your posting(s)--HARD. Factually. Based on the facts
>>> contained in YOUR postings (i.e. NOT my opinion).
>
> This point is NOT refuted by you. Anywhere.
allegations.
>>You're only capable of slamming someone in your dreams, douchebag. In
>>real life, all you are capable of doing is twisting words, takeing
>>statements out of context and fabricating lies for the purpose of
>>creating what you think is a legitimate argument.
>
> Parasite, you have not posted any such thing. You ARE a parasite. You
> exist to live off the work of others. You ARE a "taker"--not a
> "maker".
earned every penny that I have.
>>I never asked you to prove anything. I simply asked you to provide a
>>reference to the post which you claim exists so that I can show that
>>your latest claims are in fact just the most recent example of the
>>bull-shit fabrications and lies that you have been spewing in this
>>cesspool for the past several years.
>
> You got your reference. YOUR problem if you don't follow up and find
> it yourself.
responsibility to either back it up with proof or accept the fact that you
have exposed yourself as as the bull shitter and liar that you are.
>>After all, as you have recently said, all that is necessary in order
>>to find the post that you claim exists, is to search for the word
>>"parasite" contained in posts to this cesspool.
>
> And you, Parasite, found it. You KNOW you got caught. That posting
> identified you ARE a parasite on society--and it detailed "how and
> why" you ARE a parasite.
lies, Parasite.
>>The only public joke in this cesspool is you; but because you are
>>stupid and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of
>>shit, but that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
>>
>>> You are AFRAID.
>>
>>Afraid of what?
>
> You are afraid, Parasite. Of EVERYTHING. You do NOT want to be
> publicly identified. SHAME is the reason.
want to be identified as Carol M. Lucier, like Jack who did not want to be
identified as John F. Wesolowski, like, Bob who did not want to be
identified as Robert Lloyd Haugh, like SixStringStu who did not want to be
idetified as James Stuart Hodges, like Cheryl who did not want to be
identifed as Cheryl Ann Benson, Relayer whose real name escapes me at the
moment, etc., etc., etc.
>>> Go ahead Parasite, make our day even more hilarious!!
>>
>>It's hard to outdo a clown like you. So, since you are doing such a
>>good job, if you don't mind I'll just sit on the sidelines and laugh.
>
> Yet, here you are, in this newsgroup, spamming it with your many nyms
> because you are TOO AFRAID to identify yourself and use your real
> e-mail address.
real names either. What do you think that they are all afraid of?
> I am NOT AFRAID of you. You are the publicly-documented clown and coward.
> Go away, little girl, or you might start
> to annoy to your parents--and they will put you to bed for your nap.
because the UseNet and the world will be better off without a low-life
Parasite, bull-shitter, liar, spammer and troll like you.
jer...@juno.com
>The old goole groups search engine that existed in
>2011 is no longer accessible, and the present new google groups search
>engine does not have the same capabilities.
>
>> You didn't bother to look more closely because you knew
>> what it contained--which you do not deny.
>
>The current new google groups search engine doesn't have the capability of
>looking more closely. Also, it's not possible to deny something that you
>either can't or won't produce.
>>>>>There are upward of 1000 postings to this cesspool which contain the
>>>>>word "parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any my
>>>>>time reading through them in order to find comments that you claim
>>>>>were made, but refuse to reference, then you are the biggest
>>>>>documented fool on the Internet.
>>
>> You are the biggest parasite on the Internet--as stated previously.
>
>Unsubstantiated bull-shit allegations are cheap,
here. Just go away and the adults will to discuss things that are far
beyond your capability.
>>>>I slammed your posting(s)--HARD. Factually. Based on the facts
>>>> contained in YOUR postings (i.e. NOT my opinion).
>>
>> This point is NOT refuted by you. Anywhere.
>
>It's not a point. It's just one more of your bull-shit, unsubstantiated
>allegations.
>>>You're only capable of slamming someone in your dreams, douchebag. In
>>>real life, all you are capable of doing is twisting words, takeing
>>>statements out of context and fabricating lies for the purpose of
>>>creating what you think is a legitimate argument.
>>
>> Parasite, you have not posted any such thing. You ARE a parasite. You
>> exist to live off the work of others. You ARE a "taker"--not a
>> "maker".
>
>You just hang onto that delusion, Parasite, because, unlike you, I've
>earned every penny that I have.
>> You got your reference. YOUR problem if you don't follow up and find
>> it yourself.
>
>No, Parasite, it's your problem. You made the allegation, so it's your
>responsibility to either back it up with proof or accept the fact that you
>have exposed yourself as as the bull shitter and liar that you are.
said "no insurance" and was going to then rely on others to pay for
your healthcare and other costs. You ARE the parasite on society.
>>>After all, as you have recently said, all that is necessary in order
>>>to find the post that you claim exists, is to search for the word
>>>"parasite" contained in posts to this cesspool.
>>
>> And you, Parasite, found it. You KNOW you got caught. That posting
>> identified you ARE a parasite on society--and it detailed "how and
>> why" you ARE a parasite.
>
>And that's just another one of your delusions and unsubstantiated bull-shit
>lies, Parasite.
keeps repeating it over and over and over and over and over....
PARASITE !! ROFLMAO !!
>>>The only public joke in this cesspool is you; but because you are
>>>stupid and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of
>>>shit, but that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
>>>
>>>> You are AFRAID.
>>>
>>>Afraid of what?
>>
>> You are afraid, Parasite. Of EVERYTHING. You do NOT want to be
>> publicly identified. SHAME is the reason.
>
>You mean like your gutter-turd associates such as Earthpots who did not
>want to be identified as Carol M. Lucier, like Jack who did not want to be
>identified as John F. Wesolowski, like, Bob who did not want to be
>identified as Robert Lloyd Haugh, like SixStringStu who did not want to be
>idetified as James Stuart Hodges, like Cheryl who did not want to be
>identifed as Cheryl Ann Benson, Relayer whose real name escapes me at the
>moment, etc., etc., etc.
very carefully omitted, was the fact most posters use the a valid
e-mail address AND consistently use the same one every time they post.
YOU do NOT. You are AFRAID. Run away little Parasite.
>>>> Go ahead Parasite, make our day even more hilarious!!
>>>
>>>It's hard to outdo a clown like you. So, since you are doing such a
>>>good job, if you don't mind I'll just sit on the sidelines and laugh.
Parasite. Run away....
>> Yet, here you are, in this newsgroup, spamming it with your many nyms
>> because you are TOO AFRAID to identify yourself and use your real
>> e-mail address.
>
>None of your gutter-turd associates used their real e-mail addresses or
>real names either. What do you think that they are all afraid of?
they post.
>> I am NOT AFRAID of you. You are the publicly-documented clown and coward.
>
>No, Parasite, you have that sole honor.
>
>> Go away, little girl, or you might start
>> to annoy to your parents--and they will put you to bed for your nap.
>
>My parents are deceased, and I look forward to the day that you are too,
>because the UseNet and the world will be better off without a low-life
>Parasite, bull-shitter, liar, spammer and troll like you.
you will die before I do. Your parents told us that fact. Have a short
life, Parasite. The universe will be better off with you NOT in it.
jer...@uno.me
news:p32oj9ttte7bd8m7q...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 17:58:45 GMT, jer...@uno.uno wrote:
>
>>The old goole groups search engine that existed in
>>2011 is no longer accessible, and the present new google groups search
>>engine does not have the same capabilities.
>>
>>> You didn't bother to look more closely because you knew
>>> what it contained--which you do not deny.
>>
>>The current new google groups search engine doesn't have the
>>capability of looking more closely. Also, it's not possible to deny
>>something that you either can't or won't produce.
>
> Use something other than Google....
search results. For ecample, a list of all articles posted by your beloved
Jack, regardless of the newsgroup to which they were posted, that contains
the phrase "warrior princess.
>>>>>>There are upward of 1000 postings to this cesspool which contain
>>>>>>the word "parasite', and if you think that I am going to waste any
>>>>>>my time reading through them in order to find comments that you
>>>>>>claim were made, but refuse to reference, then you are the biggest
>>>>>>documented fool on the Internet.
>>>
>>> You are the biggest parasite on the Internet--as stated previously.
>>
>>Unsubstantiated bull-shit allegations are cheap,
>
> There were no problems on this newsgroup until you started posting
> here.
pissing match between SixStringStu and Mike Gibson. If you don't remember
it, you can look it up.
> Just go away and the adults will to discuss things that are far
> beyond your capability.
situation that you and your fellow gutter turds created, then you go away.
>>>>>I slammed your posting(s)--HARD. Factually. Based on the facts
>>>>> contained in YOUR postings (i.e. NOT my opinion).
>>>
>>> This point is NOT refuted by you. Anywhere.
>>
>>It's not a point. It's just one more of your bull-shit,
>>unsubstantiated allegations.
>
> Which has not yet been refuted by you.
Message-ID is in and of itself a refutation of your fabricated lies, false
claims and bull-shit allegations.
>>>>You're only capable of slamming someone in your dreams, douchebag.
>>>>In real life, all you are capable of doing is twisting words,
>>>>takeing statements out of context and fabricating lies for the
>>>>purpose of creating what you think is a legitimate argument.
>>>
>>> Parasite, you have not posted any such thing. You ARE a parasite.
>>> You exist to live off the work of others. You ARE a "taker"--not a
>>> "maker".
>>
>>You just hang onto that delusion, Parasite, because, unlike you, I've
>>earned every penny that I have.
>
> ROFLMAO !!
governmental handouts, not I.
>>> You got your reference. YOUR problem if you don't follow up and find
>>> it yourself.
>>
>>No, Parasite, it's your problem. You made the allegation, so it's
>>your responsibility to either back it up with proof or accept the fact
>>that you have exposed yourself as as the bull shitter and liar that
>>you are.
>
> LOL !! Trying to call me a parasite? ROFLMAO !! You are the one who
> said "no insurance" and was going to then rely on others to pay for
> your healthcare and other costs. You ARE the parasite on society.
until hell freezes, Parasite, but until you provide (eg Message-IDs) they
will be nothing more than bull-shit lies and unsubstantiated allegations.
>>>>After all, as you have recently said, all that is necessary in order
>>>>to find the post that you claim exists, is to search for the word
>>>>"parasite" contained in posts to this cesspool.
>>>
>>> And you, Parasite, found it. You KNOW you got caught. That posting
>>> identified you ARE a parasite on society--and it detailed "how and
>>> why" you ARE a parasite.
>>
>>And that's just another one of your delusions and unsubstantiated
>>bull-shit lies, Parasite.
>
> Wow, like a 3-year-old who just heard Daddy say a naughty word--and
> keeps repeating it over and over and over and over and over....
> PARASITE !! ROFLMAO !!
example.
>>>>The only public joke in this cesspool is you; but because you are
>>>>stupid and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of
>>>>shit, but that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
>>>>
>>>>> You are AFRAID.
>>>>
>>>>Afraid of what?
>>>
>>> You are afraid, Parasite. Of EVERYTHING. You do NOT want to be
>>> publicly identified. SHAME is the reason.
>>
>>You mean like your gutter-turd associates such as Earthpots who did
>>not want to be identified as Carol M. Lucier, like Jack who did not
>>want to be identified as John F. Wesolowski, like, Bob who did not
>>want to be identified as Robert Lloyd Haugh, like SixStringStu who did
>>not want to be idetified as James Stuart Hodges, like Cheryl who did
>>not want to be identifed as Cheryl Ann Benson, Relayer whose real name
>>escapes me at the moment, etc., etc., etc.
>
> Noted you did NOT say *I* was afraid.
> Another key point, which you very carefully omitted, was
> the fact most posters use the a valid e-mail address
> AND consistently use the same one every time they post.
> YOU do NOT. You are AFRAID. Run away little Parasite.
Here are the email addresses of a few of your gutter-turd associates.
Windswept@home (Jack)
Drought@Jack's.Hill. (Jack)
ExGymRat@Home. (Jack)
"earthpots" <eart...@nospam.com>
"Bob" <t...@the.the>
"Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com>
"SixStringStu" <SixStr...@NoReply.com>
"SixStringStu" <6Stri...@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> Go ahead Parasite, make our day even more hilarious!!
>>>>
>>>>It's hard to outdo a clown like you. So, since you are doing such a
>>>>good job, if you don't mind I'll just sit on the sidelines and
>>>>laugh.
>
> Go ahead and sit on the sidelines--but do NOT post. Run away, little
> Parasite. Run away....
>>> Yet, here you are, in this newsgroup, spamming it with your many
>>> nyms because you are TOO AFRAID to identify yourself and use your
>>> real e-mail address.
>>
>>None of your gutter-turd associates used their real e-mail addresses
>>or real names either. What do you think that they are all afraid of?
>
> But they do use the SAME name and real, valid e-mail addresses when
> they post.
Windswept@home (Jack)
Drought@Jack's.Hill. (Jack)
ExGymRat@Home. (Jack)
"earthpots" <eart...@nospam.com>
"Bob" <t...@the.the>
"Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com>
"SixStringStu" <SixStr...@NoReply.com>
"SixStringStu" <6Stri...@invalid.invalid>
>>> I am NOT AFRAID of you. You are the publicly-documented clown and
>>> coward.
>>
>>No, Parasite, you have that sole honor.
>>
>>> Go away, little girl, or you might start
>>> to annoy to your parents--and they will put you to bed for your nap.
>>
>>My parents are deceased, and I look forward to the day that you are
>>too, because the UseNet and the world will be better off without a
>>low-life Parasite, bull-shitter, liar, spammer and troll like you.
>
> You can look forward to whatever you want. But it is far more likely
> you will die before I do. Your parents told us that fact.
> Have a short life, Parasite.
fucked the whore who squated, spread her legs, grunted and squirted you out
head first onto the cement floor of a public toilet.
> The universe will be better off with you NOT in it.
jer...@juno.com
>The laugh is on you, Parasite, because you're the one on SSD collecting
>governmental handouts, not I.
*insurance* for which I paid premiums. I suffered a loss that
qualified for compensation under that insurance. I filed a claim, it
was eventually verified as being a valid claim, and that insurance is
now paying me for that loss. That is not a handout--unless you call
everyone who collects ANY insurance payment as getting a handout.
Which means unemployment insurance, SSDI, and any and all payouts by
insurance companies (car, life, health, home, business, etc) are also
"handouts"-- using your definition. ROFLMAO !!!
So, have you made YOUR payments today? Remember, you ARE a parasite if
you have EVER taken any payments from any insurance.
>>>>>The only public joke in this cesspool is you; but because you are
>>>>>stupid and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of
>>>>>shit, but that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
people names--which you have been doing for YEARS. You sometimes use
it in your nym-naming. Another of your favorites is shit hole. Well,
at least we know where you live--in a shit hole.
>>>>>> You are AFRAID.
>>>>>
>>>>>Afraid of what?
>>>>
>>>> You are afraid, Parasite. Of EVERYTHING. You do NOT want to be
>>>> publicly identified. SHAME is the reason.
>>>You mean like your gutter-turd associates such as Earthpots who did
>>>not want to be identified as Carol M. Lucier, like Jack who did not
>>>want to be identified as John F. Wesolowski, like, Bob who did not
>>>want to be identified as Robert Lloyd Haugh, like SixStringStu who did
>>>not want to be idetified as James Stuart Hodges, like Cheryl who did
>>>not want to be identifed as Cheryl Ann Benson, Relayer whose real name
>>>escapes me at the moment, etc., etc., etc.
>>
>> Noted you did NOT say *I* was afraid.
>
>I didn't say that it was raining either.
you) would acknowledge they were (afraid or not afraid). So, by your
actions--and not your words--we KNOW you are *afraid*.
>> Another key point, which you very carefully omitted, was
>> the fact most posters use the a valid e-mail address
>> AND consistently use the same one every time they post.
>> YOU do NOT. You are AFRAID. Run away little Parasite.
>
>That's just another one of your bull-shit lies.
>Here are the email addresses of a few of your gutter-turd associates.
>Windswept@home (Jack)
>Drought@Jack's.Hill. (Jack)
>ExGymRat@Home. (Jack)
>"earthpots" <eart...@nospam.com>
>"Bob" <t...@the.the>
>"Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com>
>"SixStringStu" <SixStr...@NoReply.com>
>"SixStringStu" <6Stri...@invalid.invalid>
kicked you out. As he is dead, he can not provide us a response as to
his real e-mail address. But he was PUBLICLY accurately responding
and/or replying to the questions asked in this group. Then you made
this group unusable for those who needed to ask questions and get
usable answers. So he took his info and went private--where you could
not follow. One valid reason for *him* to not use his real e-mail
address would be to keep from getting inundated with huge volumes of
e-mail to which he could not respond (due to to volume).
>I don't take orders from lying scumbags and Parasites like you.
>>>None of your gutter-turd associates used their real e-mail addresses
>>>or real names either. What do you think that they are all afraid of?
head. As I have posted previously, you ARE being watched.
>> But they do use the SAME name and real, valid e-mail addresses when
>> they post.
>
>Repeating the same bull-shit lie twice doesn't make it true.
>Windswept@home (Jack)
>Drought@Jack's.Hill. (Jack)
>ExGymRat@Home. (Jack)
>"earthpots" <eart...@nospam.com>
>"Bob" <t...@the.the>
>"Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com>
>"SixStringStu" <SixStr...@NoReply.com>
>"SixStringStu" <6Stri...@invalid.invalid>
posting.
>What drugs do you take that enable you to communicate with the dead?
inherited. May you die VERY soon--and you have no insurance (as that
would be a "handout"). Have a very short remaining life, Parasite.
>> The universe will be better off with you NOT in it.
>
>The afterlife will be better off with Parasites like you in hell.
going to hell--Satan already has your name on his list of welcomed
residents.
jer...@uno.who
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:45:54 GMT, jer...@uno.me wrote:
>
>>The laugh is on you, Parasite, because you're the one on SSD collecting
>>governmental handouts, not I.
>
> Irrefutable proof I have won this pseudo-discussion/argument. SSDI is
> *insurance* for which I paid premiums. I suffered a loss that
> qualified for compensation under that insurance. I filed a claim, it
> was eventually verified as being a valid claim, and that insurance is
> now paying me for that loss. That is not a handout--unless you call
> everyone who collects ANY insurance payment as getting a handout.
> Which means unemployment insurance, SSDI, and any and all payouts by
> insurance companies (car, life, health, home, business, etc) are also
> "handouts"-- using your definition. ROFLMAO !!!
has proven is that you are a pathological liar who wouldn't recognize a
legitimate proof it were staring you in the face.
> So, have you made YOUR payments today? Remember, you ARE a parasite if
> you have EVER taken any payments from any insurance.
given. I didn't ask for either and I have no control over either.
The government gives and the government takes away. Fortunately, unlike
you, Parasite, I am quite capable of taking care of myself and I don't need
the government to take care of me.
>>>>>>The only public joke in this cesspool is you; but because you are
>>>>>>stupid and full of yourself, you don't see it. You are also full of
>>>>>>shit, but that's a bit redundant, isn't it, Geraldine?
>
> More proof of your immaturity. Geraldine? LOL !! Repeatedly calling
> people names--which you have been doing for YEARS. You sometimes use
> it in your nym-naming. Another of your favorites is shit hole. Well,
> at least we know where you live--in a shit hole.
from the government. So, if you think that I live in a shit hole, I
certainly wouldn't want to see the shit hole in which you reside.
>>>>>>> You are AFRAID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Afraid of what?
>>>>>
>>>>> You are afraid, Parasite. Of EVERYTHING. You do NOT want to be
>>>>> publicly identified. SHAME is the reason.
>
> LOL !! You really ARE afraid !!
>>>>You mean like your gutter-turd associates such as Earthpots who did
>>>>not want to be identified as Carol M. Lucier, like Jack who did not
>>>>want to be identified as John F. Wesolowski, like, Bob who did not
>>>>want to be identified as Robert Lloyd Haugh, like SixStringStu who did
>>>>not want to be idetified as James Stuart Hodges, like Cheryl who did
>>>>not want to be identifed as Cheryl Ann Benson, Relayer whose real name
>>>>escapes me at the moment, etc., etc., etc.
>>>
>>> Noted you did NOT say *I* was afraid.
>>
>>I didn't say that it was raining either.
>
> You also did not DENY you were afraid. Big strong heroes (that is, NOT
> you) would acknowledge they were (afraid or not afraid). So, by your
> actions--and not your words--we KNOW you are *afraid*.
>>> Another key point, which you very carefully omitted, was
>>> the fact most posters use the a valid e-mail address
>>> AND consistently use the same one every time they post.
>>> YOU do NOT. You are AFRAID. Run away little Parasite.
>>
>>That's just another one of your bull-shit lies.
>>Here are the email addresses of a few of your gutter-turd associates.
>>Windswept@home (Jack)
>>Drought@Jack's.Hill. (Jack)
>>ExGymRat@Home. (Jack)
>>"earthpots" <eart...@nospam.com>
>>"Bob" <t...@the.the>
>>"Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com>
>>"SixStringStu" <SixStr...@NoReply.com>
>>"SixStringStu" <6Stri...@invalid.invalid>
>
> Jack knew what to do when you got out of line in the private group--he
> kicked you out. As he is dead, he can not provide us a response as to
> his real e-mail address. But he was PUBLICLY accurately responding
> and/or replying to the questions asked in this group. Then you made
> this group unusable for those who needed to ask questions and get
> usable answers. So he took his info and went private--where you could
> not follow. One valid reason for *him* to not use his real e-mail
> address would be to keep from getting inundated with huge volumes of
> e-mail to which he could not respond (due to to volume).
>
have exposed you as a bald-faced liar many times in the past as well as
several times during this exchange. Nonetheless, you just keep on lying,
lying lying. Absolutely fascinating.
>>I don't take orders from lying scumbags and Parasites like you.
>
> You do it EVERY day.
>>>>None of your gutter-turd associates used their real e-mail addresses
>>>>or real names either. What do you think that they are all afraid of?
>
> You and your retribution against them.
email address long, long before I tripped and fell into this cesspool.
> You are in this FAR over your head.
scared off by a piss-ant Parasite like you.
> As I have posted previously, you ARE being watched.
the cows come home.
>>> But they do use the SAME name and real, valid e-mail addresses when
>>> they post.
>>
>>Repeating the same bull-shit lie twice doesn't make it true.
>>Windswept@home (Jack)
>>Drought@Jack's.Hill. (Jack)
>>ExGymRat@Home. (Jack)
>>"earthpots" <eart...@nospam.com>
>>"Bob" <t...@the.the>
>>"Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com>
>>"SixStringStu" <SixStr...@NoReply.com>
>>"SixStringStu" <6Stri...@invalid.invalid>
>
> Your Alzheimer's is showing. You repeated yourself--in the same
> posting.
followed suit with the same reply, just in case you missed the first one.
>>What drugs do you take that enable you to communicate with the dead?
>
> Both your parents died relatively young. So those are the genes you
> inherited.
all that young.
> May you die VERY soon--and you have no insurance (as that
> would be a "handout"). Have a very short remaining life, Parasite.
government. In case you haven't been paying attention to current events,
everyone is now forced by the government to either have health insurance or
pay a fine.
>>> The universe will be better off with you NOT in it.
>>
>>The afterlife will be better off with Parasites like you in hell.
> You are the parasite, per your declarations above.
> You are the one going to hell--Satan already has your name
> on his list of welcomed residents.
jer...@juno.com
>> So, have you made YOUR payments today? Remember, you ARE a parasite if
>> you have EVER taken any payments from any insurance.
>
>Medicare premiums are stolen from the Social Security money that I am
>given. I didn't ask for either and I have no control over either.
>The government gives and the government takes away. Fortunately, unlike
>you, Parasite, I am quite capable of taking care of myself and I don't need
>the government to take care of me.
Social Security parasite !! YOU are a TAKER, NOT a Maker.
>> More proof of your immaturity. Geraldine? LOL !! Repeatedly calling
>> people names--which you have been doing for YEARS. You sometimes use
>> it in your nym-naming. Another of your favorites is shit hole. Well,
>> at least we know where you live--in a shit hole.
>I pay more in property tax each year than the handouts that you receive
>from the government. So, if you think that I live in a shit hole, I
>certainly wouldn't want to see the shit hole in which you reside.
>>>> Noted you did NOT say *I* was afraid.
>>>
>>>I didn't say that it was raining either.
didn't mention that fact.
>> You also did not DENY you were afraid. Big strong heroes (that is, NOT
>> you) would acknowledge they were (afraid or not afraid). So, by your
>> actions--and not your words--we KNOW you are *afraid*.
>
>I didn't say it was snowing either.
people. You didn't mention that fact either.
>>>> Another key point, which you very carefully omitted, was
>>>> the fact most posters use the a valid e-mail address
>>>> AND consistently use the same one every time they post.
>>>> YOU do NOT. You are AFRAID. Run away little Parasite.
>>>
>>>That's just another one of your bull-shit lies.
e-mail addresses all the time. You have done it for EVERY response in
this exchange. Then you cite YOUR OWN use of fake e-mail addresses as
proof--due to the volume of your postings.
>> Jack knew what to do when you got out of line in the private group--he
>> kicked you out. As he is dead, he can not provide us a response as to
>> his real e-mail address. But he was PUBLICLY accurately responding
>> and/or replying to the questions asked in this group. Then you made
>> this group unusable for those who needed to ask questions and get
>> usable answers. So he took his info and went private--where you could
>> not follow. One valid reason for *him* to not use his real e-mail
>> address would be to keep from getting inundated with huge volumes of
>> e-mail to which he could not respond (due to to volume).
>>
>
>I think that qualifies as your biggest single load of bull shit to date. I
>have exposed you as a bald-faced liar many times in the past as well as
>several times during this exchange. Nonetheless, you just keep on lying,
>lying lying. Absolutely fascinating.
never document those claims with facts. Then we see your oxymoron
claims. You state "I thinK"--now THERE is an oxymoron.
>>>I don't take orders from lying scumbags and Parasites like you.
>>
>> You do it EVERY day.
>
>Ignorance is bliss.
>>>>>None of your gutter-turd associates used their real e-mail addresses
>>>>>or real names either. What do you think that they are all afraid of?
>>
>> You and your retribution against them.
>
>Another blatant lie. The truth of the matter is that they were using fake
>email address long, long before I tripped and fell into this cesspool.
posting here. So that means you created the cesspool. And the easiest
way to take care of a cesspool is to get rid of the shit. So when you
go away, so does the cesspool
>> You are in this FAR over your head.
>
>If that's a veiled threat, let me just say that I'm way too old to be
>scared off by a piss-ant Parasite like you.
ha-ha....
>> As I have posted previously, you ARE being watched.
>
>I have nothing to hide, so you and your gutter-turd friends can watch until
>the cows come home.
names and forwarding sites? As I stated previously, YOU are AFRAID !!
>> Your Alzheimer's is showing. You repeated yourself--in the same
>> posting.
>
>You repeated yourself with the same bull-shit lie in the same posting, so I
>followed suit with the same reply, just in case you missed the first one.
>
>>>What drugs do you take that enable you to communicate with the dead?
>>
>> Both your parents died relatively young. So those are the genes you
>> inherited.
>
>Young is relative, but I don't think that most people would consider 95+
>all that young.
Which also means YOU have been a TAKER for 30+ years.
>> May you die VERY soon--and you have no insurance (as that
>> would be a "handout"). Have a very short remaining life, Parasite.
>
>I do have Medicare, not by choice, but because it is forced upon me by the
>government. In case you haven't been paying attention to current events,
>everyone is now forced by the government to either have health insurance or
>pay a fine.
>>>> The universe will be better off with you NOT in it.
>>>
>>>The afterlife will be better off with Parasites like you in hell.
are not competition, but rather an appetiser (for him, anyway). So he
will welcome you.
>> You are the parasite, per your declarations above.
>
>You mean per your gull-shit declarations above.
comprehend whatever you post? NOPE !!
>> You are the one going to hell--Satan already has your name
>> on his list of welcomed residents.
>
>If so, then it's right below yours.
are not competition, but rather a mere appetiser (for him, anyway). So
he will welcome you. Enjoy the pineapple....you will have an eternity
to experience them continuously.
jer...@uno.who
old nonsensical drivel and worn out lies.
BTW, do you compose your bull-shit replies yourself or are there other
inmates in the asylum who help you?
jer...@juno.com wrote in
news:5eftj91kf4ibe92i9...@4ax.com:
jer...@bullshitters.com
What's the matter, Geraldine.
Cat got your tongue?
jer...@uno.who wrote in news:6PC%u.3$a3...@fx12.iad:
Jack
news:7km5j9p43ipn83ues...@4ax.com:
> Not sure who contacted you (who called themselves "Jack"), but the
> person who used to work at Social Security appears to have died. The
> private newsgroup he created no longer functions and he does not post
> there. He had the good info and knew what he was talking about. The
> fact he has not posted for so long seems to indicate he is no longer
> around--otherwise he would still be postiing on his private group.
longer posting to his now-defunct private circle jerk means that he is
either no longer around or dead. Do I have that non-sequitur correct,
Geraldine?
Try this link on for size....Geraldine.
http://www.guestbookcentral.com/guestbook.cfm?guestbook=28243
You do know where your beloved foul-mouthed psychopath, bigot, racist,
liar, spammer and troll attended grammar school, high school and
college....don't you Geraldine?
Now scroll down to the following post
Date: 05/20/2014
Guest: 4 (Reference ID: 1960680)
Name: Jack Wesolowski
Email Address: None
Location: Rolling Hills of N. Central Md.
Homepage: None
Low and behold, here's another
Date: 12/31/2013
Guest: 8 (Reference ID: 1897659)
Name:Jack Wesolowski
Email Address:None
Location:The Rolling Hills Of N. Central Md.
Homepage: None
There are no email addresses or homepages specified either of those two
posts, but just keep scrolling......Geraldine. And, be sure to note the
numerous other other posts by your beloved as you scroll down the page and
backward in time.
Ah....., finally a post by your beloved of particular interestet.
Date: 06/13/2011
Guest:
37 (Reference ID: 1836122)
Name: Jack Wesolowski
Email Address: None
Location: None
Homepage: http://groups.google.com/group/socialsecuritydisability
You do recognize that link....don't you......Geraldine?
It's the link to your beloved's now-defunct private circle jerk.
Unfortunately, there's still no email address.
But enlightenment is on the way......so just keep scrolling, Geraldine.
Date: 09/18/2005
Guest: 167 (Reference ID: 1046161)
Name: Jack Wesolowski
Email Address: bro...@sbcglobal.net
Location: Carroll County, MD
Homepage:
None
You do know who brojack is, don't you, Geraldine? If not, perhaps the
following link will refresh your failing memory.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/alt.social-security-
disability/subject$3Abrojack
http://tinyurl.com/lnuw59q
In the future, Geraldine, do you homework and avoid exposing yourself as
the PARASITE, ignoramus and/or liar that you are.
jer...@juno.com
>> Not sure who contacted you (who called themselves "Jack"), but the
>> person who used to work at Social Security appears to have died. The
>> private newsgroup he created no longer functions and he does not post
>> there. He had the good info and knew what he was talking about. The
>> fact he has not posted for so long seems to indicate he is no longer
>> around--otherwise he would still be postiing on his private group.
>
>In other words, the fact that jack-off Jack "Shitwad" Wesolowski is no
>longer posting to his now-defunct private circle jerk means that he is
>either no longer around or dead. Do I have that non-sequitur correct,
>Geraldine?
Security. That person was not Wesolowski because Wesoloski never
worked for the Social Security Administration--as documented by his
own failed work history. You might be Wesolowski....
Jack
4ax.com:
> person who used to work at Social Security appears to have died. The
> private newsgroup he created no longer functions and he does not post
> there. He had the good info and knew what he was talking about. The
> fact he has not posted for so long seems to indicate he is no longer
> around--otherwise he would still be postiing on his private group.
In other words, the fact that jack-off Jack "Shitwad" Wesolowski is no
longer posting to his now-defunct private circle jerk means that he is
either no longer around or dead. Do I have that non-sequitur correct,
Geraldine?
thegra...@gmail.com
jer...@juno.com
wrote:
>FYI...If anyone has SSI disability and has a Domestic Partner the premium you have to pay on the health coverage will show up as income.
jer...@juno.com
Marriage is a federal right granted under the US Constitution to those
who wish to get married.
Thus, people who were illegally denied the right to get married can
now do so. Upon marriage, the premium paid for health coverage would
no longer be considered income.
jer...@hoho.net
news:jmatoa1ub7kb0kj5v...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT), thegra...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>>FYI...If anyone has SSI disability and has a Domestic Partner the
>>premium you have to pay on the health coverage will show up as income.
>
> The original post is from 2010.
>
> Marriage is a federal right granted under the US Constitution to those
> who wish to get married.
>
Here are ome quotes from John Roberts, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
regarding what is and what isn't written in the US Constitution.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/26/here-are-the-11-most-devastating-
quotes-from-john-roberts-gay-marriage-dissent/
"This Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea
should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to
say what the law is, not what it should be. The people who ratified the
Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but
merely judgment."
"The truth is that today’s decision rests on nothing more than the
majority’s own conviction that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry
because they want to, and that “it would disparage their choices and
diminish their personhood to deny them this right.” Whatever force that
belief may have as a matter of moral philosophy, it has no more basis in
the Constitution than did the naked policy preferences adopted in Lochner."
"The majority’s decision is an act of will, not legal judgment. The right
it announces has no basis in the Constitution or this Court’s precedent.
The Constitution itself says nothing about marriage, and the Framers
thereby entrusted the States with “[t]he whole subject of the domestic
relations of husband and wife.”"
"Stripped of its shiny rhetorical gloss, the majority’s argument is that
the Due Process Clause gives same-sex couples a fundamental right to marry
because it will be good for them and for society. If I were a legislator, I
would certainly consider that view as a matter of social policy. But as a
judge, I find the majority’s position indefensible as a matter of
constitutional law."
"Although the majority randomly inserts the adjective “two” in various
places, it offers no reason at all why the two-person element of the core
definition of marriage may be preserved while the man-woman element may
not. Indeed, from the standpoint of history and tradition, a leap from
opposite-sex marriage to same-sex marriage is much greater than one from a
two-person union to plural unions, which have deep roots in some cultures
around the world. If the majority is willing to take the big leap, it is
hard to see how it can say no to the shorter one. It is striking how much
of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a
fundamental right to plural marriage.
When asked about a plural marital union at oral argument, petitioners
asserted that a State “doesn’t have such an institution.” But that is
exactly the point: the States at issue here do not have an institution of
same-sex marriage, either."
"Those who founded our country would not recognize the majority’s
conception of the judicial role. They after all risked their lives and
fortunes for the precious right to govern themselves. They would never have
imagined yielding that right on a question of social policy to
unaccountable and unelected judges. And they certainly would not have been
satisfied by a system empowering judges to override policy judgments so
long as they do so after “a quite extensive discussion.”"
footbal...@verizon.net
jer...@juno.com
wrote:
>I don't really know on page 1 box 2 if I mark even thou I'm at same job from get go.
then give them all the work details requested on the form, including
copies of pay stubs.
jer...@hoho.net
news:sj6oebhcese7rmrcb...@4ax.com:
parasites like you, Geraldine. In the box for "name and address of payer"
just put "US Taxpayers" and in the "amount" box, put the amount of the
monthly handout that you receive from the government that you receive for
sitting on your fat, lazy ass and doing absolutely nothing.
jer...@juno.com
As you have never *earned* a paycheck, you are only able to comment
about your own experiences (or lack thereof).
This request (assuming it is a valid one) concerns reporting *earned*
income while receiving benefits. As we have already established, I
have *earned* my benefits. A person is eligible to receive SSDI on
their own record when they have *earned* it (i.e. worked sufficient
quarters to be eligible for benefits). The SSA agrees I have both
*earned* my eligibility and *qualified* to receive those benefits
because I am disabled under the rules set by the SSA.
You are a parasite on society with nothing to contribute. Then again,
that is the definition of a parasite (you).
jer...@hoho.net
news:57tqebdgibk7cnt9q...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:06:34 -0000 (UTC), jer...@hoho.net wrote:
>
>>Parasite Gerald Abrahamson, aka jer...@juno.com wrote in
>>news:sj6oebhcese7rmrcb...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:02:29 -0700 (PDT), footbal...@verizon.net
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't really know on page 1 box 2 if I mark even thou I'm at same
>>>>job from get go.
>>>
>>> Have you worked and gotten a paycheck? If yes, check the YES box and
>>> then give them all the work details requested on the form, including
>>> copies of pay stubs.
>>>
>>
>>In the "type of payment" column, "Other" is the appropriate box for
>>parasites like you, Geraldine. In the box for "name and address of
>>payer" just put "US Taxpayers" and in the "amount" box, put the amount
>>of the monthly handout that you receive from the government that you
>>receive for sitting on your fat, lazy ass and doing absolutely
>>nothing.
>
> <chuckle><chuckle>
>
> As you have never *earned* a paycheck, you are only able to comment
> about your own experiences (or lack thereof).
to project your experience as a societal parasite on folks like me who
actually work for the money that we receive and who pay the taxes that
the government hands out to lazy-ass parasites like you.
> This request (assuming it is a valid one) concerns reporting *earned*
> income while receiving benefits. As we have already established, I
> have *earned* my benefits. A person is eligible to receive SSDI on
> their own record when they have *earned* it (i.e. worked sufficient
> quarters to be eligible for benefits). The SSA agrees I have both
> *earned* my eligibility and *qualified* to receive those benefits
> because I am disabled under the rules set by the SSA.
benefits because you can't accept the fact that you are a lazy-ass
societal parasite who lives on govenmental handouts. The unpleasant
truth, that you can't confront, is that the money that you receive from
the government, for doing nothing other than sitting on your fat ass, is
by definition a handout, regardless of what white-washed politicall-
correct label that SSA assigns to it.
> You are a parasite on society with nothing to contribute. Then again,
> that is the definition of a parasite (you).
millions of others like me, who actually work for the money that we
receive, the government wouldn't have the money, that we pay in taxes, to
hand out to lazy-ass societal parasites like you.
jer...@juno.com
>> <chuckle><chuckle>
>>
>> As you have never *earned* a paycheck, you are only able to comment
>> about your own experiences (or lack thereof).
>
>As you know nothing about my work and income history, you are only able
>to project your experience as a societal parasite on folks like me who
>actually work for the money that we receive and who pay the taxes that
>the government hands out to lazy-ass parasites like you.
NOT have a job.
>> This request (assuming it is a valid one) concerns reporting *earned*
>> income while receiving benefits. As we have already established, I
>> have *earned* my benefits. A person is eligible to receive SSDI on
>> their own record when they have *earned* it (i.e. worked sufficient
>> quarters to be eligible for benefits). The SSA agrees I have both
>> *earned* my eligibility and *qualified* to receive those benefits
>> because I am disabled under the rules set by the SSA.
>
>
>You need to hang onto the delusion that you have earned some sort of
>benefits because you can't accept the fact that you are a lazy-ass
>societal parasite who lives on govenmental handouts. The unpleasant
>truth, that you can't confront, is that the money that you receive from
>the government, for doing nothing other than sitting on your fat ass, is
>by definition a handout, regardless of what white-washed politicall-
>correct label that SSA assigns to it.
actually DID work, became disabled, were verified as disabled by the
SSA, and then paid the insurance benefits they had become eligible to
receive. They PAID THE PREMIUMS for that insurance. Exactly the same
as paying for car, health, life, and other insurance. Let me guess:
You do NOT have ANY insurance--because you ARE a Parasite.
>> You are a parasite on society with nothing to contribute. Then again,
>> that is the definition of a parasite (you).
>
>I've contributed plenty and continue to do so. If it weren't for me and
>millions of others like me, who actually work for the money that we
>receive, the government wouldn't have the money, that we pay in taxes, to
>hand out to lazy-ass societal parasites like you.
parasite, which has been documented. Thus, you ARE Parasite.
jer...@hoho.net
news:5kdtebp2a10c3c3jc...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:07:50 -0000 (UTC), jer...@hoho.net wrote:
>
>>> <chuckle><chuckle>
>>>
>>> As you have never *earned* a paycheck, you are only able to comment
>>> about your own experiences (or lack thereof).
>>
>>As you know nothing about my work and income history, you are only
>>able to project your experience as a societal parasite on folks like
>>me who actually work for the money that we receive and who pay the
>>taxes that the government hands out to lazy-ass parasites like you.
>
> I know you post all days and times of the week. So that means you do
> NOT have a job.
>
incorrect conclusion. Your repeated and continued use of nonsequiturs
indicates that you either never took Logic 101 or that you took it and
didn't learn anything.
>>> This request (assuming it is a valid one) concerns reporting
>>> *earned* income while receiving benefits. As we have already
>>> established, I have *earned* my benefits. A person is eligible to
>>> receive SSDI on their own record when they have *earned* it (i.e.
>>> worked sufficient quarters to be eligible for benefits). The SSA
>>> agrees I have both *earned* my eligibility and *qualified* to
>>> receive those benefits because I am disabled under the rules set by
>>> the SSA.
>>
>>
>>You need to hang onto the delusion that you have earned some sort of
>>benefits because you can't accept the fact that you are a lazy-ass
>>societal parasite who lives on govenmental handouts. The unpleasant
>>truth, that you can't confront, is that the money that you receive
>>from the government, for doing nothing other than sitting on your fat
>>ass, is by definition a handout, regardless of what white-washed
>>politicall- correct label that SSA assigns to it.
>
> ROFLMAO !! You don't work,
> collect welfare,
WRONG AGAN......strike 2
> and then blame others who
> actually DID work, became disabled, were verified as disabled by the
> SSA, and then paid the insurance benefits they had become eligible to
> receive.
ROFLMAO !!
> They PAID THE PREMIUMS for that insurance.
can't accept the unpleaasant truth that the money that parasites like you
receive from the government is in fact a handout.
> Exactly the same
> as paying for car, health, life, and other insurance.
health, life and other insurance, in which case I pay nothing. The fact of
the matter is that what you refer to as insurance premiums are actually
taxes that the governmnet takes from everyone who works so that it can
provide handouts to lazy-ass societal parasites like you.
> Let me guess:
> You do NOT have ANY insurance--because you ARE a Parasite.
state law. I have homeowner's insurance for protection in case some
parasite like you trespasses on my property, trips over his shoelace and
trys to sue me. I also have professional liability insurance for backup
protection in my business dealings. Last but not least, I have an umbrella
policy because of the additional protection that it provides and because
it's dirt cheap.
>>> You are a parasite on society with nothing to contribute. Then
>>> again, that is the definition of a parasite (you).
>>
>>I've contributed plenty and continue to do so. If it weren't for me
>>and millions of others like me, who actually work for the money that
>>we receive, the government wouldn't have the money, that we pay in
>>taxes, to hand out to lazy-ass societal parasites like you.
>
> So far, we have not seen any proof you work OR contribute.
because you claim that you haven't seen something doesn't either mean or
prove that it doesn't exist.
> You ARE a parasite, which has been documented.
> Thus, you ARE Parasite.
You're the one, not me, who lives in a government-subsidized shithole and
who lives off handouts from the government.
jer...@juno.com
>Parasite Gerald Abrahamson aka jer...@juno.com wrote in
>news:5kdtebp2a10c3c3jc...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:07:50 -0000 (UTC), jer...@hoho.net wrote:
>>
>No it does not mean that I do not have a job. That's your inference and
>incorrect conclusion. Your repeated and continued use of nonsequiturs
>indicates that you either never took Logic 101 or that you took it and
>didn't learn anything.
>WRONG....strike 1
Ump says you made a wild pitch.
>> collect welfare,
Insurance payments aren't welfare. That is not my opinion. The IRS
says so.
>WRONG AGAN......strike 2
Insurance payments still aren't welfare despite your wailing.
>> and then blame others who
>> actually DID work, became disabled, were verified as disabled by the
>> SSA, and then paid the insurance benefits they had become eligible to
>> receive.
>
>WRONG YET AGAIN....strike 3....and you're out, PARASITE.
>ROFLMAO !!
>> They PAID THE PREMIUMS for that insurance.
>
>That's just a lame, pathetic excuse that is used by parasites like you who
>can't accept the unpleaasant truth that the money that parasites like you
>receive from the government is in fact a handout.
>> Exactly the same
>> as paying for car, health, life, and other insurance.
>
>It's not at all the same. I can choose to not drive, to not purchase
>health, life and other insurance, in which case I pay nothing. The fact of
>the matter is that what you refer to as insurance premiums are actually
>taxes that the governmnet takes from everyone who works so that it can
>provide handouts to lazy-ass societal parasites like you.
extremely important. Let's see--you FORGOT (AGAIN !!). Only *what* did
you FORGET? Ah, we shall get there--eventually !! ROFLMAO !!!
>> Let me guess:
>> You do NOT have ANY insurance--because you ARE a Parasite.
>
>Guess again, Geraldine. I have auto insurance because it's required by
>state law. I have homeowner's insurance for protection in case some
>parasite like you trespasses on my property, trips over his shoelace and
>trys to sue me. I also have professional liability insurance for backup
>protection in my business dealings. Last but not least, I have an umbrella
>policy because of the additional protection that it provides and because
>it's dirt cheap.
by you, on this very board.
You have AUTO INSURANCE--because the state requires it. WHY does the
*state* REQUIRE IT? I know why--but, DO *YOU*? Now for the fun part:
Have you EVER collected on YOUR auto insurance, for ANY reason? If
yes, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR definition).
You have HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE. You *claim* it is JUST to "protect"
you against others suing you for injuries/harm they suffer on your
property--as a result of your negligence and inability to maintain a
safe and nonharmful property and structure. If you have ever filed a
claim, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR definition).
You have an UMBRELLA INSURANCE POLICY. That must be to protect you
from your own stupidity falling and hitting you over and over again.
CHEAP is good, but FREE is almost best. If you have ever filed a
claim, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR definition).
Now for the fun part !! You stated you have a PAYING JOB. This can not
be verified, of course. But, if we accept your claim as true, then YOU
are funding my SSDI payment every month. And YOU have, right now, the
exact same INSURANGE coverage I had. Thus, SSDI is *not* welfare, by
your own statements, cited above. YOU, PERSONALLY, pay for ALL the
above-cited
And we still have NOT seen whether you have HEALTH INSURANCE. So you
KNOW you are screwed on that one. Because if you HAVE health insurance
through work, that is part of your "total compensation package". And
if you have EVER filed a claim, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR
definition).
>> So far, we have not seen any proof you work OR contribute.
>
>I don't need to prove anything to pissant parasites like you. Also, just
>because you claim that you haven't seen something doesn't either mean or
>prove that it doesn't exist.
NOT work--because you ARE a parasite. And that is your name: Parasite.
>> You ARE a parasite, which has been documented.
>
>All that's been documented are your false claims.
>
>> Thus, you ARE Parasite.
>
>You're the one, not me, who lives in a government-subsidized shithole and
>who lives off handouts from the government.
have worked, earned income, AND paid taxes for an extended period of
time. I *earned* those benefits (those who work and pay--EARN). We
have NOT seen any proof you work OR earn anything. You can claim
anything you want--in writing. That does not make it true. You are a
child living in his mom's basement. Nothing more. Now THAT is pitiful.
jer...@hoho.net
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:45:15 -0000 (UTC), jer...@hoho.net wrote:
>
>>Parasite Gerald Abrahamson aka jer...@juno.com wrote in
>>news:5kdtebp2a10c3c3jc...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:07:50 -0000 (UTC), jer...@hoho.net wrote:
>>>
>>No it does not mean that I do not have a job. That's your inference
>>and incorrect conclusion. Your repeated and continued use of
>>nonsequiturs indicates that you either never took Logic 101 or that
>>you took it and didn't learn anything.
>
> Took, and passed, Logic 101. So it isn't *my* logic that is flawed.
>>WRONG....strike 1
>
> Ump says you made a wild pitch.
>>> collect welfare,
>
> Insurance payments aren't welfare. That is not my opinion. The IRS
> says so.
>
>>WRONG AGAN......strike 2
>
> Insurance payments still aren't welfare despite your wailing.
>
to the fact that the government takes money from people like me who work
and earn the money that they receive, and hands it out to lazy-ass
parasites like you who refuse to work.
>>> and then blame others who
>>> actually DID work, became disabled, were verified as disabled by the
>>> SSA, and then paid the insurance benefits they had become eligible
>>> to receive.
>>
>>WRONG YET AGAIN....strike 3....and you're out, PARASITE.
>>ROFLMAO !!
>
> You are still a parasite, Parasite.
>
I work and earn the money that I receive
Parasite don't work and get governmental handouts.
Therefore you are the Parasite, Geraldine
ROFLMAO !!
>>> They PAID THE PREMIUMS for that insurance.
>>
>>That's just a lame, pathetic excuse that is used by parasites like you
>>who can't accept the unpleaasant truth that the money that parasites
>>like you receive from the government is in fact a handout.
>
> Nope. And the proof will be shown in a couple paragraphs.
>
alone formulate one. ROFLMAO !!
>>> Exactly the same
>>> as paying for car, health, life, and other insurance.
>>
>>It's not at all the same. I can choose to not drive, to not purchase
>>health, life and other insurance, in which case I pay nothing. The
>>fact of the matter is that what you refer to as insurance premiums are
>>actually taxes that the governmnet takes from everyone who works so
>>that it can provide handouts to lazy-ass societal parasites like you.
>
> Pay nothing = get nothing. Fair. However, you omitted something
> extremely important. Let's see--you FORGOT (AGAIN !!). Only *what* did
> you FORGET? Ah, we shall get there--eventually !! ROFLMAO !!!
>
nonsensical drivel in circles.
>>> Let me guess:
>>> You do NOT have ANY insurance--because you ARE a Parasite.
>>
>>Guess again, Geraldine. I have auto insurance because it's required
>>by state law. I have homeowner's insurance for protection in case
>>some parasite like you trespasses on my property, trips over his
>>shoelace and trys to sue me. I also have professional liability
>>insurance for backup protection in my business dealings. Last but not
>>least, I have an umbrella policy because of the additional protection
>>that it provides and because it's dirt cheap.
>
> And now we see you do not believe in your own written statements, made
> by you, on this very board.
>
difference between the words have and had.
> You have AUTO INSURANCE--because the state requires it. WHY does the
> *state* REQUIRE IT? I know why--but, DO *YOU*? Now for the fun part:
> Have you EVER collected on YOUR auto insurance, for ANY reason? If
> yes, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR definition).
>
Logic 101 Grade: F-
> You have HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE. You *claim* it is JUST to "protect"
> you against others suing you for injuries/harm they suffer on your
> property--as a result of your negligence and inability to maintain a
> safe and nonharmful property and structure. If you have ever filed a
> claim, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR definition).
>
Logic 101 Grade: F-
> You have an UMBRELLA INSURANCE POLICY. That must be to protect you
> from your own stupidity falling and hitting you over and over again.
> CHEAP is good, but FREE is almost best. If you have ever filed a
> claim, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR definition).
>
Logic 101 Grade: F-
> Now for the fun part !! You stated you have a PAYING JOB. This can not
> be verified, of course. But, if we accept your claim as true, then YOU
> are funding my SSDI payment every month.
> And YOU have, right now, the
> exact same INSURANGE coverage I had.
disability insurance that I voluntarily signed up for and voluntarily pay
for. There is nothing voluntary associated with the handouts that you
receive from the government. The fact that I could apply for governmantal
handouts and become a societal parasite like you means other than that.
just that.
> Thus, SSDI is *not* welfare, by
> your own statements, cited above.
> YOU, PERSONALLY, pay for ALL the above-cited
The taxes that the goverment collects from people like me, who work for
the money that they receive, and hands it out to lazy-ass parasites like
you who refuse to work, does not involve a volutary choise. And, it's
the issue of voluntary choice that distinguishes whether someoneone is
receiving insurance benefits or governmental handouts.
> And we still have NOT seen whether you have HEALTH INSURANCE.
haven't seen them doesn't mean that they don't exist.
> So you
> KNOW you are screwed on that one. Because if you HAVE health insurance
> through work, that is part of your "total compensation package". And
> if you have EVER filed a claim, then you ARE a parasite (by YOUR
> definition).
>
>>> So far, we have not seen any proof you work OR contribute.
>>
>>I don't need to prove anything to pissant parasites like you. Also,
>>just because you claim that you haven't seen something doesn't either
>>mean or prove that it doesn't exist.
>
> Then we do not have to accept the claims you have made, above.
not accept.
> You do
> NOT work--because you ARE a parasite. And that is your name: Parasite.
>>> You ARE a parasite, which has been documented.
>>
>>All that's been documented are your false claims.
>>
>>> Thus, you ARE Parasite.
>>
>>You're the one, not me, who lives in a government-subsidized shithole
>>and who lives off handouts from the government.
>
> Because I am on SSDI, I have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, I
> have worked, earned income, AND paid taxes for an extended period of
> time.
> I *earned* those benefits (those who work and pay--EARN).
benefits to which you refer were not earned. They were given to you,
just like the handouts that you are receiving.
> We have NOT seen any proof you work OR earn anything.
> That does not make it true.
claim that you are incpable of both logical and rational thought is well
documented and is beyond dispute.
> You are a child living in his mom's basement.
my basement. Initially the neighbors complained about the stench, but I
was able tho convince them that it was just a dead cat that got trapped
under the house. It took a couple of years for the stench to fade to the
point that the neighbors don't complain about it any more. The SSA
continues to deposit her monthly social security benefits into her bank
account which I, as a co-signer on her account, am able to access and use
to buy all of the alcohol and drugs that I, and all of the whores that I
regularly fuck, can consume before passing out.
> Nothing more. Now THAT is pitiful.
subsidized shithole and lives on govenmental handouts.
tmadi...@gmail.com
> We received form SSA-821-BK for my husband. He has not worked in any
> way since his disability progressed. They have his disability insurance
> listed as income, and his final short-term disability payments from his
> prior employer back in 05. This form asks for pay rates, etc...but he
> has no hourly pay rate. What is the heck up with this? Should we
> complete this ourselves, or take it to the local office, or call the 800
> #? Jack, you've helped us in the past with issues, why would we get
> this now and what would you suggest we do? Just receiving this is
> stressful, not to mention the fear of screwing up his benefits by
> completing something wrong.
QUESTION: WHY DO I HAVE TO SHOW HOW MUCH I MADE WHEN I WASN'T RECEIVING DISABILITIES? I GOT THAT SAME LATER AND IM SCARED
I got that form SSA-821 a month after SSA reinstated my disabilities. They cut it off for a year because I got an online teaching job, and I made money-. I never stop looking for work that can accommodate my disability. My brain and my Master degree stil good. I don't want to depend on the government, so a week before they cut my disabilities I was offered an amazing job making 95k a year. It was like a miracle since I have been looking for a job for 5 years.
At the job, I was asked to take a regular health physical examination, and I was scared they will reject me because of my bank and knew disability, but they didn't test my walking and I kept it secret. But sure enough, 3 months into the job they noticed my walking and I also have ADHD (which i havent report that to SSA), so i got a one year contract and they could't fire me. BUt they stop giving me job and by month 5, my boss told me they wont renew the term (everyone in my department work year per year, and everyone got renew but me). I tried then tried to tell them about my desability and that it was not fair, and they just gave me the walk around, and lied that was an budget problem-- which was not because after I left they put my job back on their site as open.
I most have a god helping me, because a month before my last day at that job, I got a letter from SSA telling me that at the end of the next month I will get my Disability check.
Three months I have been receiving disability. Again I began applying for a job that could take me; I dont want to give up. Disability money is only good ot pay my rent but not food or bills.
Then after 3 month I got a letter from SSA telling me that they know I made money, and they want to know how much and see my pay check. Im terrified because I made 4K a month. It might sound like a lot, but my rent was $1500 and paying bills, kids, car food in New York everything is expensive. That job I lost was a dream job and I'm debastated I lost it.
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE FORM. IF I SUBMIT IT I FEEL THIS IS IT! I HAVENT DONE IT FOR 3 MONTHS AND I'M STILL RECEIVING BENEFITS. I'M 63, IF THEY CUT IT, IM GOING TO BE LIEAVING IN THE STREET. IF SSA CUTS MY BENEFIT I HAVE NO ONE. I WILL LITERATELY LIVE IN MY CAR.-- I TRIED CALIGN A LAYER, AND ASS, AND NO IDEA.. I NOT GOING TO SUMIT IT AND SEE HOW LONG IT LAST.