It's OK if you don't believe in GOD but............
E.Bola
the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
assault those of different views?
I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
up your own belief structure.
It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
you use.
Mark K. Bilbo
<35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola):
> There is an internet cult named the
> Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack posters of
> religious and paranormal news groups.
Why are you pestering alt.atheism about this?
--
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EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
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monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
Denis Loubet
"E.Bola" <steel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com...
Nice bunch of generalizations, can I play?
"Why do you theists insist on flying airplanes into buildings?"
How was that?
--
Denis Loubet
dlo...@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
Christopher A. Lee
Are you really this stupid or just pretending?
ATHEISM ISN'T A BELIEF. ALL IT MEANS IS NOT BEING ANY KIND OF THEIST.
Or a belief structure.
The only people who imagine that are idiots who project their own need
for a religious belief structure onto everybody else.
You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment if you realised that not
believing in the deity of somebody else's religion is no different
than not believing in the Easter Bunny.
*A*T* *M*O*S*T* IT IS A *R*E*A*C*T*I*O*N* TO THE ACTIONS OF THEISTS
TOWARDS THOSE WHO DON'T SHARE THEIR BELIEF.
Even things like the Church of the Subgenius are reactions that there
wouldn't even be if you sociopaths and liars could only live and let
live.
Swiss Army
assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
me on a good day.
God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
understanding.
It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
Christopher A. Lee
wrote:
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
>assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
>buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
But not because of the non-event that is atheism.
You have to look for what people ARE not what they aren't, in order to
find motivations, justifications etc.
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
>me on a good day.
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
>understanding.
Sigh. Why do you imagine there is even anything to be (not)
understood?
It's not even an issue. Even for the only people for whom it could be
one - because theists daren't make it an issue for themselves even
though they imagine it should be one for everybody else.
>It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
>belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
> Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
>self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
Yet another liar lying about atheists, who can't understand the
difference between an initial action and a reaction that wouldn't even
happen.
Desdinova
news:13473-40...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net...
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
> buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool
Then don't.
> but you caught me on a good day.
Good for whom?
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> understanding.
So you're agnostic?
> It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth.
Atheists want the truth , not dogma and myths.
> Your belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
We don't have beliefs.
> Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> self-righteous,
The same can be said of theists.
> certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
Will you hold theists to the same standard?
--
Desdinova aa #2182
EAC Director of Research and Destroy, Black Helicopter Pilot
"Religion is what the common people see as true,
the wise people see as false, and the rulers see as useful."
-Seneca
Android Cat
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes
Why do people feel the need to keep adding alt.religion.scientology to their
pinhead/angel debates? We're overstocked with kooks as it is, thanks.
(Advice: Adding more newsgroups to a thread does *not* make your argument
more powerful.)
--
Ron of that ilk.
Denis Loubet
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD.
It's spelled loser.
> Zealots flew planes into
> buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
So which atheists flew planes into buildings? I forget...
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
> me on a good day.
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> understanding.
So how do you know it both exists and doesn't exist? Are you using some kind
of inhuman understanding? How does that work?
> It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
> belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
It doesn't matter what you believe, but it does, but not a lot?
Well, that covers just about all the bases. It's good to know you can really
take a stand.
> Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
Or maybe it's because we're sick and tired of being second-class citizens.
Dale
Some atheists have a chip on their shoulder, but atheism, not being a
person, doesn't need "strokes" to validate itself, and neither do most
atheists. The militant atheists I've known generally had a Catholic
upbringing, and are actually still mired in a kind of anti-Catholicism
rather than atheism per se, and I suppose there are some ex-Baptists and
ex-Pentecostals who are like that too. But for the most part, atheists are
people who've thrown away the crutches of belief. You've gotten yourself
into a frenzy of self-righteous judgment over one tiny little group which
only represents the thinking of that tiny little group.
JTEM
"E.Bola" <steel...@hotmail.com> wrote
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they
> have to assault those of different views?
I'm glad you crossposted this to alt.atheism, so that none of
the irony was lost.
Holden
So you came to alt.atheists and alt.slack to attack people who attack
people........
Holden
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes
> into buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool
Wow, you don't sound hostile or self-righteous at all............
Christopher A. Lee
wrote:
>In article <35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com>,
>steel...@hotmail.com says...
>> The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>> the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>> posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
>
>No, they just attack stupid beliefs. If you hold stupid beliefs, and
>you insist on spreading them around, especially to alt.atheism, you
>should expect to be ridiculed. Alt.atheism is our home. Here we don't
>have to pretend to respect idiotic beliefs or the idiots who hold them.
Which is hardly attacking them: it's a response.
O'Brien
Not all of us who attack religion are atheists. We may be atheists or
we may subscribe to any of a number of non-traditional philosophies,
but we all share a common goal of eliminating religion and the mindless
zealots who follow them so blindly.
Why should we sit back and just allow brainwashed fools to believe their
brainwashing nonsense, especially when they wish to impose their
cults' moral values on the rest of us? Why should we just sit there
while they go around trying to persuade others that the earth is flat
and the sky is hot pink? For too long they have hidden behind the
statement "it's my faith and you are forbidden from criticizing it".
We WILL criticize their ignorant beliefs. They are deluded and if they
were safely locked away in a mental hospital I could accept their
delusions but they are running loose spouting their propaganda and
infecting others with their lunacy. In the years before the 9/11
attacks, I'm sure the 19 soon-to-be-hijackers had non-moozlums tripping
over themselves not to criticize their fanaticism. After all, it was
their "faith" to believe in the destruction of America and the West,
so who was anyone to condemn them for it? Maybe if someone had sat
down and carefully explained to them that there WEREN'T 72 virgins
awaiting them in Heaven if they martyred themselves they might have
snapped out of the brainwash before it was too late.
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Avoid Independent Thinking: How is such independent thinking
manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is
provided by God's visible organization."
-- The Watchtower; 01-15-1983, p. 22
---------------------------------------------------------------
Vic Sagerquist
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
>assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
>buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
>me on a good day.
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
>understanding.
>It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
>belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
Funny, that's how we see it too. Except for the fact that no belief
changes any kind of reality.
> Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
>self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
>
Persecution tends to do that to you.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
E.Bola
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:12:53 -0400, swish...@webtv.net (Swiss Army)
> wrote:
>
> > Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> >assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
> >buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> But not because of the non-event that is atheism.
THERE IS NO NON-EVENT, IT IS ALL CONNECTED.
>
> You have to look for what people ARE not what they aren't, in order to
> find motivations, justifications etc.
WRONG! You have to look at what people are AND are not.
>
> > I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
> >me on a good day.
> > God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> >understanding.
>
> Sigh. Why do you imagine there is even anything to be (not)
> understood?
Now a glimmer of truth filters into your slack brain but I imagine it
won't last long.
>
> It's not even an issue. Even for the only people for whom it could be
> one - because theists daren't make it an issue for
> themselves
Atheists are making an issue out of the Theist issue aren't they
Einstein.
even
> though they imagine it should be one for everybody else.
>
> >It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
> >belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
> > Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> >self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
>
> Yet another liar lying about atheists, who can't
Callng someone a liar is quite aggresive. Defend your nonbeliefs
Atheists! ROTFLOL!
>understand the
> difference between an initial action and a reaction that wouldn't even
> happen.
Its a circle of hate and you are caught in it. Which came first, the
chicken or the egg, is a mute question at this point.
blujuju
<snip>
> Its a circle of hate and you are caught in it. Which came first, the
> chicken or the egg, is a mute question at this point.
The word is "moot" dear...
--
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E.Bola
> Why are you pestering alt.atheism about this?
Because a Atheist Cult called the Church of the Subgenius is pestering
other newgroups about this. alt.atheism and alt.slack are their home
groups. If you don't want these discussions here slap down ERIC V.
GILL and his flying monkeys.
E.Bola
They were idiots. Now dosen't that answer your question yet?
Mark K. Bilbo
<2ma85kF...@uni-berlin.de> we saw our hero "Holden"
<no...@ihatespam.com>:
Makes sense huh?
It's like Plastic Fake cross posting to bitch about cross posting...
E.Bola
> On 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700, steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola) wrote:
>
> >The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
> >the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
> >posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
> > Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
> >assault those of different views?
> > I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
> >up your own belief structure.
> > It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
> >any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
> >and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
> >you use.
>
> Are you really this stupid or just pretending?
Aggressive tart. Your following monologue demonstrates how ignorant
you are. Look I'll propve it to you.
>
> ATHEISM ISN'T A BELIEF. ALL IT MEANS IS NOT BEING ANY KIND OF THEIST.
A non-belief is still a belief. It means you believe in nothing but
yourself.
>
> Or a belief structure.
>
> The only people who imagine that are idiots who project their own need
> for a religious belief structure onto everybody else.
This is what Atheism does as well PKB
>
> You'd save yourself a lot of embarrassment if you realised that not
> believing in the deity of somebody else's religion is no different
> than not believing in the Easter Bunny.
To not believe in the Easter Bunny is to hold a belief that the
Easter Bunny dosen't exist.
It is still a belief structure but one based on negativity which we
see demonstrated on usenet every day.
>
> *A*T* *M*O*S*T* IT IS A *R*E*A*C*T*I*O*N* TO THE ACTIONS OF THEISTS
> TOWARDS THOSE WHO DON'T SHARE THEIR BELIEF.
Reaction, action, it is all just part of the cycle. Atheist under the
direction of ERIC V. GILL demonstrate that they can be just as
obnoxious as a bible thumper.
This dosen't make Atheism superior to other religions but instead
makes you just as pointless and stupid.
>
> Even things like the Church of the Subgenius are reactions that there
> wouldn't even be if you sociopaths and liars could only live and let
> live.
Are you trying to justify WHY you stalk posters in other newsgroups?
Is this your higher mission? ROTFLOL
Mark K. Bilbo
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
I see. I've been a regular in alt.atheism for some six years or more but
don't know what you're talking about. Yet you "see" some conspiracy going
on that involves my "home" ng?
Ooookay...
Bookman
Is your censorship campaign getting any results yet?
ESL!
--
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Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast)
Clue-Bat Wrangler
Keeper of the Nickname Lists
Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order
"I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/afa-b/
Mark K. Bilbo
> A non-belief is still a belief.
That's one of the stupider remarks I've seen this week...
E.Bola
> "Swiss Army" <swish...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13473-40...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net...
> > Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> > assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
> > buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> > I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool
>
> Then don't.
Fools can't be informed.
It seems you may be someone with an open mind.
>
> > but you caught me on a good day.
>
> Good for whom?
Good for you if you listen to points this thread makes.
>
> > God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> > understanding.
>
> So you're agnostic?
No, it is something else entirely
>
> > It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth.
>
> Atheists want the truth , not dogma and myths.
Then listen to what is being said here.
>
> > Your belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
>
> We don't have beliefs.
You have embraced the negative of a belief which is, alas, still a
belief. You belief that God dosen't exist. I would like to suggest
you take a college level philosophy class in logic.
>
> > Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> > self-righteous,
>
> The same can be said of theists.
That is true! If Atheism is to be the correct worldview then shouldn't
it have loftier goals than waddling with the ignorant in flamefests?
>
> > certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
>
> Will you hold theists to the same standard?
yes.
E.Bola
> Swiss Army wrote:
> > Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> > assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes
> <snip>
>
> Why do people feel the need to keep adding alt.religion.scientology to their
> pinhead/angel debates?
BECAUSE the Church of the Subgenius is STALKING scientologists~!!!
Look at the abuse sufered by Barbara Swartz here in your NG. This is
the result of the aggresive atheist tactics of ERIC V. GILL.
Scientologists did not come to alt.atheism looking for a fight but the
Atheists attacked your NG without provocation.
> We're overstocked with kooks as it is, thanks.
OH, the "KOOK" word leads me to believe you are a member of the
Subgenius cult pretending to be a scientologist.
> (Advice: Adding more newsgroups to a thread does *not* make your argument
> more powerful.)
Tell thaT TO eric v. gill
Desdinova
news:<XjQLc.6187$sx2....@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
> > "Swiss Army" <swish...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:13473-40...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net...
> > > Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> > > assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes
into
> > > buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
> >
> > > I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool
> >
> > Then don't.
>
> Fools can't be informed.
> It seems you may be someone with an open mind.
>
> > > but you caught me on a good day.
> >
> > Good for whom?
>
> Good for you if you listen to points this thread makes.
>
>
> >
> > > God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> > > understanding.
> >
> > So you're agnostic?
>
> No, it is something else entirely
>
Please explain.
> >
> > > It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth.
> >
> > Atheists want the truth , not dogma and myths.
>
> Then listen to what is being said here.
>
> >
> > > Your belief does change your immediate reality but not the big
picture.
> >
> > We don't have beliefs.
>
> You have embraced the negative of a belief which is, alas, still a
> belief.
> You belief that God dosen't exist.
I have lack of belief in god claims, not a belief in no gods. I am
*convinced* that gods do not exist. I will not be convinced otherwise until
scientifically credible evidence becomes available for proof of a god.
> I would like to suggest
> you take a college level philosophy class in logic.
>
Philosophy and logic are two different disciplines. I have studied critical
thinking and psychology in college.
I was a theist for 35 years.
Try George H. Smith's book "Atheism: The Case Against God". He cogently
demonstrates that gods are an impossibility.
> >
> > > Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> > > self-righteous,
> >
> > The same can be said of theists.
>
> That is true! If Atheism is to be the correct worldview then shouldn't
> it have loftier goals than waddling with the ignorant in flamefests?
>
Agreed. Flamefests are a waste of time. Honest debate is a worthwhile
pursuit.
> > > certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
> >
> > Will you hold theists to the same standard?
>
> yes.
--
Christopher A. Lee
<blu...@THEOBVIOUSpeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>"E.Bola" <steel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com...
>> Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:<gbkvf096990drq273...@4ax.com>...
>
><snip>
>
>> Its a circle of hate and you are caught in it. Which came first, the
>> chicken or the egg, is a mute question at this point.
>
>The word is "moot" dear...
What I don't understand, is why they feel they can get away with lying
about atheists, to atheists, and what they expect to achieve by it.
And by lying again when they are corrected.
It should be obvious that if they could only live and let live there
would be no reaction from ordinary decent people who just want to get
on with their own lives, and who happen not to believe in deities (but
so what, they don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny etc
either).
Cardinal Vertigo
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700 in episode>>There is an internet cult named the
>>Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack posters of
>>religious and paranormal news groups.
>
I think I can safely presume to speak for most of alt.slack when I say
"WHO CARES?"
Followup set.
--
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to
liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his
abuses in return for protection to his own."
- Thomas Jefferson
nu-monet v7.0
>
> Try George H. Smith's book "Atheism: The Case
> Against God". He cogently demonstrates that gods
> are an impossibility.
He should date one before he says that.
But I suppose that "gods" depends on your definition
of the word.
Could you call Spider-man a "god"? Or is he more a
"god-like being", or the P.C. "god-like enabled
arachnidally mutant-ably-endowed person"?
Much of the problem is semantic-philosophical. If
*people* define what a god is, then it isn't a god.
If a god(s) define what they are, *and* what people
are in relation to them, the gods, then they *are*
gods. (And this goes back way before Descartes.)
In other words, a *real* god doesn't care what you
think, it defines itself. If it throws a lightning
bolt at you, you *can* say that you were hit by a
lightning bolt, and no god was involved. And *it*
can say it threw a lightning bolt at you. In either
case, your hair is parted and your shoes are smoking.
Now, if the god can *force* you to accept its version
of things, well, damn, it *is* a god. You have to
agree, because you have no choice in the definition.
So what good is a god that doesn't kick your ass?
Not much. It is just silly to assume that gods or
God plays some game like "I'll convince you that I'm
not really here, even though I am here, just to see
if you will believe I'm here, even thought there is
no evidence that I am here" dumbass game of hide and
seek.
So there is only one choice left. Pretend that you
*do* define reality, and play by those rules, taking
responsibility for your decisions; or act like a
neurotic child, and be willing to surrender credit
for everything good that happens just so you can blame
the invisible monsters for it when something bad happens.
The only difference is that the responsibility takers
actually may accomplish something with their lives.
--
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Founder and High Priest
Church of Kali, U.S.A. (Reformed)
kathryn
Obviously
that's why they succeeded. Yup they were dumb as dirt.
Robibnikoff
He doesn't seem to be bothering anyone but you.
--------------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robibnikoff
>the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
Nobody cares. B'bye.
kathryn
> the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
> posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
> assault those of different views?
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
> up your own belief structure.
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
> any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
> and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
> you use.
Funnily enough a quick search of googles shows that most of the messages
containing "Eric V Gill" are by you.
stoney
(heavy sigh) Where do these moronic, dishonest, and ignorant trolls come
from?
[snip rampant idiocy]
stoney
I take it you've never heard of taking personal responsibility? Such is
the adult route, rather than the toddler route you've taken. Engage
filters or ignore the posts-idiot.
stoney
> Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<75ivf0p4dm5i00337...@4ax.com>...
>> On 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700, steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola) wrote:
>>
>> >The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>> >the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>> >posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
>> > Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
>> >assault those of different views?
>> > I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
>> >up your own belief structure.
>> > It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
>> >any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
>> >and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
>> >you use.
>>
>> Are you really this stupid or just pretending?
>
>
> Aggressive tart. Your following monologue demonstrates how ignorant
> you are. Look I'll propve it to you.
>
>
>>
>> ATHEISM ISN'T A BELIEF. ALL IT MEANS IS NOT BEING ANY KIND OF THEIST.
> A non-belief is still a belief. It means you believe in nothing but
> yourself.
Damn. I certainly hope you never spawn.
"bald is a hair colour," you say.
>> Or a belief structure.
>> The only people who imagine that are idiots who project their own need
>> for a religious belief structure onto everybody else.
>
> This is what Atheism does as well PKB
Gosh, such loving christian ignorance and lies.
A lack of theism isn't a motivator for anything, fuckwit.
{snip rest of drooling idiocy}
stoney
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:30:43 -0700, Enkidu <zwi6...@sneakemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com>,
>>steel...@hotmail.com says...
>>> The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>>> the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>>> posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
>>
>>No, they just attack stupid beliefs. If you hold stupid beliefs, and
>>you insist on spreading them around, especially to alt.atheism, you
>>should expect to be ridiculed. Alt.atheism is our home. Here we don't
>>have to pretend to respect idiotic beliefs or the idiots who hold them.
>
> Which is hardly attacking them: it's a response.
Of course it is. However, acknowledgement requires following the (cough)
'Commandment' against bearing false witness.
stoney
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:44:14 -0700 in episode
> <35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
> steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola):
>
>> A non-belief is still a belief.
>
> That's one of the stupider remarks I've seen this week...
And it took him/her a month of 'hard thought' to come up with it.
Amazing how rampant stupidity and Christians go cock in arse.
stoney
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD.
> Zealots flew planes into
> buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
Yes, theism is destructive whether it be Islam, or Christianity.
Oh my, please enlighten me as to how an atheist (no capital letter unless
it is the first word in a sentence) can be a zealot (no capital z as it
isn't the first word in the sentence). Note: Any response is sure to be
*very* entertaining! :D
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
> me on a good day.
{MMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH}
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> understanding.
> It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
> belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
> Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
Hearty applause to you for so aptly demonstrating you're not only a fool,
but a drooling idiot. I'm going to nominate your response for TQOTM under
the idiocy catagory. Rejoyce as you are commanded, slave!
Robibnikoff
>
>In article <o7TLc.52377$vN3....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
>thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL says...
>>
>> "E.Bola" <steel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com...
>> > "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
>> news:<pan.2004.07.22....@org.webmaster>...
>> > > Why are you pestering alt.atheism about this?
>> >
>> >
>> > Because a Atheist Cult called the Church of the Subgenius is pestering
>> > other newgroups about this. alt.atheism and alt.slack are their home
>> > groups. If you don't want these discussions here slap down ERIC V.
>> > GILL and his flying monkeys.
>>
>> Is your censorship campaign getting any results yet?
>
>Even eviler!
But not as evil as me! Wooooooooooooooo! <eyes twinkle> :D
stoney
> Swiss Army wrote:
>> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
>> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes
>> into buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>>
>> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool
>
> Wow, you don't sound hostile or self-righteous at all............
Theistic projection is often highly amusing.
>> me on a good day.
stoney
> "Denis Loubet" <dlo...@io.com> wrote in message news:<45ednbv5C5_...@io.com>...
>> "E.Bola" <steel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com...
>> > The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>> > the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>> > posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
>> > Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
>> > assault those of different views?
>> > I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
>> > up your own belief structure.
>> > It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
>> > any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
>> > and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
>> > you use.
>>
>> Nice bunch of generalizations, can I play?
>>
>> "Why do you theists insist on flying airplanes into buildings?"
>>
>> How was that?
>
>
> They were idiots. Now dosen't that answer your question yet?
Cool. So when are you slated to emulate them?
Cardinal Vertigo
[snip]
> So there is only one choice left. Pretend that you
> *do* define reality, and play by those rules, taking
> responsibility for your decisions; or act like a
> neurotic child, and be willing to surrender credit
> for everything good that happens just so you can blame
> the invisible monsters for it when something bad happens.
>
> The only difference is that the responsibility takers
> actually may accomplish something with their lives.
I'm a theist, and I approve of this message.
--
"Conspiracy theorising is fast becoming a legitimate means of
reporting on a government so secretive that unnamed Pakistani
security types may well be the best informed sources on the
Bush administration's domestic policies and strategems."
- Jonathan Raban
raven1
>There is an internet cult named
>the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
And you're mentioning this in alt.atheism why...?
blujuju
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:23:11 GMT, "blujuju"
> <blu...@THEOBVIOUSpeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"E.Bola" <steel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com...
> >> Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >news:<gbkvf096990drq273...@4ax.com>...
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >> Its a circle of hate and you are caught in it. Which came first, the
> >> chicken or the egg, is a mute question at this point.
> >
> >The word is "moot" dear...
>
> What I don't understand, is why they feel they can get away with lying
> about atheists, to atheists, and what they expect to achieve by it.
Probably because they're so used to lying to themselves that it's a natural
carry-over. Now what they expect to achieve is anyone's guess.
> And by lying again when they are corrected.
>
> It should be obvious that if they could only live and let live there
> would be no reaction from ordinary decent people who just want to get
> on with their own lives, and who happen not to believe in deities (but
> so what, they don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny etc
> either).
The thing with dieties is they're a good place to put blame, as in 'the
devil made me eat that cake' or 'it's god's will that those children
died' -it removes any smidge of responsibility from them and lays it square
in the lap(s) of whichever imaginary pal they choose.
Where all their hate comes from is probably frustration. And I'd bet on a
good bit of jealousy.
--
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wbarwell
> The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
> the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
> posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
> assault those of different views?
No we are so secure we can easily debunk fools.
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
> up your own belief structure.
No, its an attempt to tear down a dead and primitive mindset that
has had its day and needs to go. Bronze age tall tales of the giant sky
pixie.
True stupidity.
www.house.gov/reform/min/features/iraq_on_the_record/
A good portal to more lies and Bush stupidity is to be found at
www.failureisimpossible.com - Go to the index and go to
"L" for lies. All you need to know about Bush when you
step into the voting booth. Bush is a liar and surrounds
himself with fellow liars.
Cheerful Charlie
wbarwell
Mere simpering hysteria.
--
Senator Waxman's searchable database of iraq war lies.
Whatup Beeetch
spew from life's losers to give me that little boast of self esteem.
Mark K. Bilbo
<pan.2004.07.22....@localhost.localdomain> we saw our hero
"stoney" <sto...@localhost.localdomain>:
I'm hoping he can tell me what the wavelength of dark is...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
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monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
Mark K. Bilbo
<A4ULc.397$L4...@www.newsranger.com> we saw our hero Robibnikoff
<nos...@newsranger.com>:
> In article <35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com>, E.Bola
> says...
>>
>>"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
>>news:<pan.2004.07.22....@org.webmaster>...
>>> Why are you pestering alt.atheism about this?
>>
>>
>>Because a Atheist Cult called the Church of the Subgenius is pestering
>>other newgroups about this. alt.atheism and alt.slack are their home
>>groups. If you don't want these discussions here slap down ERIC V. GILL
>>and his flying monkeys.
>
> He doesn't seem to be bothering anyone but you.
And this "cult" seems to be visible only to him...
Two Beans
>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
>assault those of different views?
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
>up your own belief structure.
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
>any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
>and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
>you use.
Troll.
-2B
Mark K. Bilbo
<fLULc.408$L4....@www.newsranger.com> we saw our hero Robibnikoff
<nos...@newsranger.com>:
> In article <MPG.1b69b051e...@news.west.cox.net>, Enkidu says...
I got dibs on "debauched!"
Mark K. Bilbo
<MPG.1b69afefb...@news.west.cox.net> we saw our hero Enkidu
<zwi6...@sneakemail.com>:
> In article <pan.2004.07.22....@org.webmaster>, alt-
> ath...@org.webmaster says...
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:32:43 -0700 in episode
>> <35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
>> steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola):
>>
>> > "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
>> > news:<pan.2004.07.22....@org.webmaster>...
>> >> Why are you pestering alt.atheism about this?
>> >
>> >
>> > Because a Atheist Cult called the Church of the Subgenius is pestering
>> > other newgroups about this. alt.atheism and alt.slack are their home
>> > groups. If you don't want these discussions here slap down ERIC V.
>> > GILL and his flying monkeys.
>>
>> I see. I've been a regular in alt.atheism for some six years or more but
>> don't know what you're talking about. Yet you "see" some conspiracy
>> going on that involves my "home" ng?
>>
>> Ooookay...
>
> We've been meaning to let you in on it, Mark. Really, we were.
You mean you all started an evil cult and didn't invite me?
<pout>
Daniel Kolle
hard and said:
>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
>assault those of different views?
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
>up your own belief structure.
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
>any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
>and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
>you use.
Morons always shout the loudest and get noticed the quickest.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
Mark K. Bilbo
<7q70g0petvdssrkp1...@4ax.com> we saw our hero raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com>:
Apparently because we're all in a "cult" we didn't know we were part of...
Mark K. Bilbo
<13473-40...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net> we saw our hero
swish...@webtv.net (Swiss Army):
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
> buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
> me on a good day.
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> understanding.
> It dosen't matter what you believe because the truth is the truth. Your
> belief does change your immediate reality but not the big picture.
> Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated and
> self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
So don't let the door hit you on the ass...
Mark K. Bilbo
<12236-410...@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net> we saw our hero
truth...@webtv.net (Whatup Beeetch):
> I guess I left the trolls of alt.slack speechless. I want to hear some
> spew from life's losers to give me that little boast of self esteem.
Ah. So you'll reading your own posts a lot...
N'vok
> "Swiss Army" <swish...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13473-40...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net...
> > Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> > assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD.
>
Unless s/he thinks that we're plusher than theists...
Mark K. Bilbo
<MPG.1b69d8fb9...@news.west.cox.net> we saw our hero Enkidu
<zwi6...@sneakemail.com>:
> In article <pan.2004.07.22....@org.webmaster>, alt-
> ath...@org.webmaster says...
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:32:49 -0700 in episode
>> <pan.2004.07.22....@localhost.localdomain> we saw our hero
>> "stoney" <sto...@localhost.localdomain>:
>>
>> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:49:14 -0500, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:44:14 -0700 in episode
>> >> <35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
>> >> steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola):
>> >>
>> >>> A non-belief is still a belief.
>> >>
>> >> That's one of the stupider remarks I've seen this week...
>> >
>> > And it took him/her a month of 'hard thought' to come up with it.
>> > Amazing how rampant stupidity and Christians go cock in arse.
>>
>> I'm hoping he can tell me what the wavelength of dark is...
>
> And what a vacuum smells like...
Speaking of which, I wonder how much vacuum weighs...
Mark K. Bilbo
<MPG.1b69dbe62...@news.west.cox.net> we saw our hero Enkidu
<zwi6...@sneakemail.com>:
> Well, we wanted you to be able to deny everything if the Pope's evil
> henchmen caught you.
Damn. I hate being the designated driver...
Mark K. Bilbo
<53f24416.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
cair...@tiscali.co.uk (N'vok):
Or have more dense foliage?
Cardinal Vertigo
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:32:49 -0700 in episode
> <pan.2004.07.22....@localhost.localdomain> we saw our hero
> "stoney" <sto...@localhost.localdomain>:
>
>
>>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:49:14 -0500, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:44:14 -0700 in episode
>>><35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
>>>steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola):
>>>
>>>
>>>>A non-belief is still a belief.
>>>
>>>That's one of the stupider remarks I've seen this week...
>>
>>And it took him/her a month of 'hard thought' to come up with it. Amazing
>>how rampant stupidity and Christians go cock in arse.
>
> I'm hoping he can tell me what the wavelength of dark is...
That's an easy one. Anything longer than than 700 nm or shorter than
400 nm. Radio, microwave, infrared, ultraviolet, X-ray, gamma; all dark.
But just as some people can hear extreme frequencies others can't
detect, some mutant humans can actually see into the near-infrared or
the near-ultraviolet a tiny bit. So one person's "dark" might actually
be another person's very deep red or purple.
The sun is extremely bright in the infrared and ultraviolet spectra. If
bright sunlight is particularly intolerable to you, you might have
ultravision or infravision!
Unfortunately the mutation is, for practical purposes, useless. Even if
your retina responds to unusual wavelengths, the visual cortex isn't
very well-adapted for anything outside the visible spectrum. So the
only effect is an affinity for sunglasses. The mutation's actually sort
of maladaptive; if you're half-blinded by midday sun you're less likely
to notice a tiger stalking you.
Now, if you were lucky enough to get retinas that sense near-UV or
near-IR AND got some previously unknown mutation in your visual cortex
conducive to processing all the extra information your super-retinas
generated, you'd be all set. Most likely you'd see UV as purple and IR
as red.
You'd see everyone else's "red" as orange, everyone else's "blue" would
be your green, and so on. Of course, you'd never know. But you really
would be temporarily blinded by the midday sun; again, sort of maladaptive.
--
"I like the job. That's what I'll miss the most... I'm not sure
anybody ever liked this as much as I've liked it."
- Bill Clinton, on leaving the White House
Don Kresch
(E.Bola) let us all know that:
>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
>the Church of the Subgenius
PRABOB! Let there be SLACK!
Troll.
Don
---
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
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Mark K. Bilbo
<btg0g0117fbb6li40...@4ax.com> we saw our hero Don Kresch
<ROT13....@jv.ee.pbz.com>:
> In alt.atheism on 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700, steel...@hotmail.com
> (E.Bola) let us all know that:
>>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named the
>>Church of the Subgenius
>
> PRABOB! Let there be SLACK!
You need trousers?
Fred Garvin
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself.
Since you're the troll assclown that made the post of this thread it seems
to me YOU are the one that needs the strokes.
> Certainly any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally
> flawed and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many
> crutches you use.
The religous kooks are constantly trying to shove their beliefs down
everyone else's throats, so you were saying scroatbag???
Rev. Richard Skull
>spew from life's losers to give me that little boast of self esteem.
>
>
Then go to alt.fan.rushlimbagh
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
bob
<alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:48:30 +0000 in episode
><btg0g0117fbb6li40...@4ax.com> we saw our hero Don Kresch
><ROT13....@jv.ee.pbz.com>:
>
>> In alt.atheism on 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700, steel...@hotmail.com
>> (E.Bola) let us all know that:
>>>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named the
>>>Church of the Subgenius
>>
>> PRABOB! Let there be SLACK!
>
>You need trousers?
Atheism is just another religion. You are a doofus.
The_Sage
>Date written: 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700
>MsgID:<35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com>
>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron.
Being an Atheist has nothing to do with whether you are a militant.
>There is an internet cult named
>the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
>posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
So you are attacking back. I wonder if your attack will have any effect?
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
>assault those of different views?
Since all Atheists are not members of the Church of the Subgenius, your question
is nonsense.
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
>up your own belief structure.
Why don't you attack the Subgeniuses instead of the Atheists then?
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself.
You have provided no such evidence for such a hate-filled accusation.
>Certainly
>any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
>and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
>you use.
So why isn't the Church of the Subgenius on the verge of collapse?
The Sage
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Cardinal Vertigo
> In article <70m0g0ddt4f9qa644...@4ax.com>,
> than...@coldmail.nu says...
> And bald is just another hair color.
I'm bored, so I'll bite.
Atheism isn't a religion, but it IS a belief system.
It's impossible to logically prove the nonexistence of deity. You can
prove deity is UNLIKELY to exist all you like, but you can't flat-out
prove it doesn't exist (no, kook, I don't care about the revolutionary
proof you've got).
So a professing atheist can't have arrived at their belief in the
nonexistence of deity through logic alone. That extra step is called
belief.
An atheist, according to Webster, is "one who believes that there is no
deity." Notice that word "belief."
An agnostic is someone who recognizes the possibility, however remote,
that deity exists, but who is not committed to believing in either the
existence or the nonexistence of deity.
Many so-called believers are actually agnostic. Any "theist" who's
willing to acknowledge the intellectual possibility that their god/s
might not exist is an agnostic, not a theist. Many agnostics conduct
their entire lives according to the strictest of theist codes, but
aren't really theist.
You don't have to be a theist to conduct your life by a moral code you
think is proper, and that moral code can be remarkably theistic or even
monotheistic without requiring you to be a theist.
Atheists and theists are both completely detached from reason on the
issue of deity. Both cling blindly to something that can be neither
proven nor disproven. They shout out their elaborate and nonsensical
proofs or disproofs in a two-ring circus of zealotry.
The agnostic view is the only one informed by logic. Atheists and
theists are equally illogical or insane or whatever. And shut up about
your mathematical proof.
Since atheism is a belief system, it must be recognized as such by the
law and treated like any other belief system.
--
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed,
and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an
endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H.L. Mencken
HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer
"Cardinal Vertigo" <ver...@alexandria.cc> wrote in message
news:fBZLc.19138$Nx2....@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
> Enkidu wrote:
>
> > In article <70m0g0ddt4f9qa644...@4ax.com>,
> > than...@coldmail.nu says...
> >
> >>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:01:21 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
> >><alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:48:30 +0000 in episode
> >>><btg0g0117fbb6li40...@4ax.com> we saw our hero Don Kresch
> >>><ROT13....@jv.ee.pbz.com>:
> >>>
> >>>>In alt.atheism on 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700, steel...@hotmail.com
> >>>>(E.Bola) let us all know that:
> >>>>
> >>>>>The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
the
> >>>>>Church of the Subgenius
> >>>>
> >>>> PRABOB! Let there be SLACK!
> >>>
> >>>You need trousers?
> >>
> >>Atheism is just another religion. You are a doofus.
> >
> > And bald is just another hair color.
>
> I'm bored, so I'll bite.
>
> Atheism isn't a religion, but it IS a belief system.
>
It's impossible to logically prove the nonexistence of "Bob". You can
prove "Bob" is UNLIKELY to exist all you like, but you can't flat-out prove
he doesn't exist (no, Janor, I don't care about the revolutionary proof
you've got).
So a professing atheist can't have arrived at their belief in the
nonexistence of "Bob" through logic alone. That extra step is called
belief.
An atheist, according to Webster, is "one who believes that there is no
"Bob"." Notice that word "belief."
An agnostic is someone who recognizes the possibility, however remote, that
"Bob" exists, but who is not committed to believing in either the existence
or the nonexistence of "Bob".
Many so-called believers are actually agnostic. Any "theist" who's willing
to acknowledge the intellectual possibility that "Bob" might not exist is an
agnostic, not a theist. Many agnostics conduct their entire lives according
to the strictest of theist codes, but aren't really theist.
You don't have to be a theist to conduct your life by a moral code you think
is proper, and that moral code can be remarkably theistic or even
monotheistic without requiring you to be a theist.
Atheists and theists are both completely detached from reason on the issue
of "Bob". Both cling blindly to something that can be neither proven nor
disproven. They shout out their elaborate and nonsensical proofs or
disproofs in a two-ring circus of zealotry.
The agnostic view is the only one informed by logic. Atheists and theists
are equally illogical or insane or whatever. And shut up about your
mathematical proof.
Since atheism is a belief system, it must be recognized as such by the law
and treated like any other belief system.
--
The above post has been presented for entertainment purposes only.
Reader's discretion is advised.
Qinff
"HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer" <Sevent...@SlowOnTheUptake.edu> wrote in
message news:TYZLc.79$uC7...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
I had to run to the kitchen and throw a bunch of chicken grease over my left
shoulder in order to handle that one.
Dang those critters don't like coming back up outta the garbage disposal
real easy.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<sto...@localhost.localdomain> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<pan.2004.07.22....@localhost.localdomain>:
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0700, E.Bola wrote:
>
>(heavy sigh) Where do these moronic, dishonest, and ignorant trolls come
>from?
>
>
>[snip rampant idiocy]
There's a factory in Omaha, cranks them out by the gross.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
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Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
Mark K. Bilbo
<70m0g0ddt4f9qa644...@4ax.com> we saw our hero bob
<than...@coldmail.nu>:
And bald is a hair color.
Mark K. Bilbo
<fBZLc.19138$Nx2....@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com> we saw our hero
Cardinal Vertigo <ver...@alexandria.cc>:
> An atheist, according to Webster, is "one who believes that there is no
> deity." Notice that word "belief."
Notice Webster's is wrong.
Joe Cosby
> The militant Atheist is a oxymoron.
Whereas the militant troll is just a moron.
> There is an internet cult named
> the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
> posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
> assault those of different views?
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
> up your own belief structure.
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself. Certainly
> any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
> and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
> you use.
Dude you spend your waking life working out completely insane
vendettas. You are posting to alt.slack because you feel STUNG. You
feel stung because you have been SPNAKKED A DOZEN TIMES in a couple of
weeks of making an ass of yourself on alt.slack.
Your whole life is devoted to trying to get back at the kids that made
fun of you and hurt your iddo feelings.
And you are preaching to us about a BELIEF SYSTEM that needs crutches?
Your WHOLE FUCKING LIFE needs crutches. AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE
CRUTCHES.
Son, you NEED "Bob" more than anybody I have ever met.
Is "Bob" a crutch? OF COURSE HE IS.
Can we DEPEND on him? OF COURSE WE CAN'T.
Is it, therefore, COMPLETELY INSANE to worship him? INSANE AT BEST.
But from the short review of your life which you have SPEWED on
Usenet, COMPLETELY INSANE would constitute a HUGE IMPROVEMENT for you.
Limping along with a crutch would be a VAST GROWTH MOMENT for you.
YES, we're ALL FUCKED UP on "Bob". But you're ALL FUCKED UP on a
Usenet argument with somebody who you are so pathetically obssessed
with that you don't even know WHICH WAY IS UP anymore. You don't even
know WHICH WAY UP IS YOU anymore.
"Bob" can help you.
Or not.
Or maybe he can just take your money and laugh at you.
BUT HE COULDN'T POSSIBLY MAKE YOU ANY -WORSE- OFF THAN YOU ALREADY
ARE.
So what have you got to lose?
El Queso
> The militant Atheist is a oxymoron. There is an internet cult named
> the Church of the Subgenius who take it upon themselves to attack
> posters of religious and paranormal news groups.
As well as every other type of group and human.
> Are Athiest so insecure in their beliefs that they feel they have to
> assault those of different views?
Subgenii are not athiests, at least not all of the time. Some of us are
panthiests one moment and then we forget all that and just stick with
one saviour for a week or so before becoming burdened by our accumulated
pantheon again.
> I find attacks on other mindsets to be a defense mechanism to prop
> up your own belief structure.
I find your attack on a belief system to be a defense mechanism to keep
you from remembering your childhood behind that gloryhole.
> It seems atheism needs a lot of strokes to validate itself.
So does my cock.
Certainly
> any belief that require this much work to propogate is fatally flawed
> and will collapse from it's own weight regardless of how many crutches
> you use.
You are more boring than any troll I have responded to in quite some
time. I'm bored. I think you should just... never mind. I don't care.
El Queso
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes into
> buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you caught
> me on a good day.
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> understanding.
No it isn't. His name is Larry and he is an asshole.
Queso
E.Bola
> <AVULc.411$L4....@www.newsranger.com> we saw our hero Robibnikoff
> <nos...@newsranger.com>:
>
> > In article <13472-410...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>, Whatup
> > Beeetch says...
> >>
> >>Mr.Bilbo are you aware of the Church of the Subgenius and have you
> >>witnessed them recruiting in alt.atheism? Eric V. Gill runs this group
> >>and rarely uses his real name.
> >>I suggest you contact ERIC and ask him to explain what he does.
> >>eric...@yahoo.com
> >
> > WebTV - Says it all.
>
> What do they *put in those things?
Something that you can't hack mother fucker.
Martin Willett
> Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
> assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD. Zealots flew planes
> into buildings, an Atheist can be a Zealot as well.
>
> I usually wouldn't waste time trying to inform a fool but you
caught
> me on a good day.
> God both does and does not exist. God/not-God is beyond human
> understanding.
> Your belief does change your immediate reality but not the big
> picture. Atheists here appear to be hostile, aggressive, frustrated
> and self-righteous, certainly this is not the hallmark of Truth.
Gibbering bullshit.
"God/not-God is beyond human understanding." How come you can
understand that concept and know what is the limit of human
understanding?
Belief doesn't change reality, if it did casinos would ban all but
confirmed agnostics from playing. Your belief can only change your
behaviour, it cannot change anything beyond that. At least that is
what the evidence that I am aware of implies.
Truth has nothing to prove. Truth is a human concept not an animated
spirit capable of being on somebody's side or informing their views.
Truth cannot be possessed or wielded or protected or destroyed. Truth
just is.
--
Martin Willett
Mark K. Bilbo
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
Why on earth would I want to?
Robibnikoff
>
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:27:57 -0700 in episode
><35c5fc3b.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
>steel...@hotmail.com (E.Bola):
>
>> "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-a...@org.webmaster> wrote in message
>> news:<pan.2004.07.22....@org.webmaster>...
>>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:52:00 +0000 in episode
>>> <AVULc.411$L4....@www.newsranger.com> we saw our hero Robibnikoff
>>> <nos...@newsranger.com>:
>>>
>>> > In article <13472-410...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>, Whatup
>>> > Beeetch says...
>>> >>
>>> >>Mr.Bilbo are you aware of the Church of the Subgenius and have you
>>> >>witnessed them recruiting in alt.atheism? Eric V. Gill runs this
>>> >>group and rarely uses his real name.
>>> >>I suggest you contact ERIC and ask him to explain what he does.
>>> >>eric...@yahoo.com
>>> >
>>> > WebTV - Says it all.
>>>
>>> What do they *put in those things?
>>
>>
>> Something that you can't hack mother fucker.
>
>Why on earth would I want to?
This guy is a real paranoid freakazoid, isn't he?
--------------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robibnikoff
Ahem, if you must use vulgarity, try to do it properly. "Motherfucker" is one
word.
Christopher A. Lee
wrote:
Somebody should ask the webtv loonies why they spend good money on
equipment that can only be used with one particular Internet provider,
and then violate their terms and conditions with behaviour that leads
to termination of service.
E.Bola
>
> Are you really this stupid, or just pretending?
I'm stupid enough to know who the fuck you are! How stupid must you be
to not know who knows all about your pedophile ring.
>
> You need to realise just how irrelevant your beliefs are outsiode
> your religion.
Hey buttwipe! You are shoving your Atheist hogwash all over usenet,
stalker.
>
> Fuck off and die, asshole.
You wish that would happen because you can't stand the heat. You can
dish it out but can't take it. WOW! no surprise there!! ROTFLOL
> eric...@yahoo.com
> dean...@yahoo.com
> dean...@aol.com
> sn...@aol.com
> sn...@yahoo.com
>
>
> ERIC V. GILL leads atheist stalkers who abuses paranormal and
> religious groups
>
>
> The Church of the Subgenius is led by ERIC V. GILL. His greatest claim
> to fame is he drew a few fonts that are still popular. Eric uses
> alt.atheism and alt.religion.recovery as recruiting grounds for his
> stalker minions. This group of usenet stalkers can be heard yelling
> KOOK or perpetually having skeptic or atheist commentary in newsgroups
> where they don't belong. This group the Church of the Subgenius
> appears to be involved with hacking, harassment and slander. Their
> worst offenses involve stealing emails, calling victims employers,
> canceling ISP's, publicizing personal information and other activitieswhat that can only be
> called stalking.
>
> This group collects money and may not be straight up with the IRS.
> This stalker collective calls itself a religion and may have illegal
> tax exempt status. The Church COS has meetings called Xdays where
> they gather to fornicate, do drugs and exchange Pedophilia.
>
>
> The FBI would be interested in the activities of this usenet gang
> which may include identity theft.
>
> Here is a listing of people who to the best of my knowledge are
> involved in this internet stalking of people they call kooks.
>
> Dennis McClain Furmanski
> Eric V. Gill
> Dean Humphries
> David Green
>
>
>
>
> It is your duty to report these stalkers to the authorities for crimes
> they have commited against you. These sick individuals will never let
> you alone. They will call your boss, wife, and neighbors with
> deflamatory lies about you.
> Really you are in a deathmatch with these stalkers it is time you
> fought back with everything you haVE! How many years have they stalked
> you? How many phone numbers have you been through? They have obsessed
> on me for over ten years !
Robibnikoff
Cardinal Vertigo
[snip]
> Yet it is not a belief system. It is simply the lack of on single
> specific belief, the belief that there is a god or gods. You can tell
> nothing at all about what I DO believe from knowing only one thing I do
> not believe. If you tell me you do not believe in supply-side
> economics, do I know anything about what you DO believe? No, I don't.
Well, thanks for straightening me out.
Oh, and you're all kooks, by the way.
--
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to
liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his
abuses in return for protection to his own."
- Thomas Jefferson
Robibnikoff
>
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:19:30 -0700 in episode
><53f24416.04072...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
>cair...@tiscali.co.uk (N'vok):
>
>> "Denis Loubet" <dlo...@io.com> wrote in message
>> news:<gc6dnQph0PU...@io.com>...
>>> "Swiss Army" <swish...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>> news:13473-40...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net...
>>> > Look at the lusher Atheist accusing others of assumptions while
>>> > assuming that the poster is a believer in GOD.
>>>
>>
>> Unless s/he thinks that we're plusher than theists...
>
>Or have more dense foliage?
Well, we HAVE had a lot of rain lately ;)