OT interresting video interview about the israely and libanon....
Petem
you wont see the propaganda with the same eyes after watching this...
Tom
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
>
> you wont see the propaganda with the same eyes after watching this...
>
>
>
>
to in the interview, to be subjucted to islamic law and rules? No
school, no job, can't drive or go to the store without a man? I doubt
it!As for Chebba farms, if you go to war with your neighbor and lose
the war and land then too bad. You shouldn't have gone to war in the
first place. Losers don't get to write the history books.
Mark Leuck
"Petem" <Pete...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
>
> you wont see the propaganda with the same eyes after watching this...
Umm I'd like to hope you aren't a fan of Galloway, if so thats pretty bad
Petem
"Tom" <m...@ter.hed> wrote in message
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Fascist usually don't either...
Petem
touch a few soft point......
I don't know if the American and Israeli people know about how most of the
rest of the world see the invasion of Lebanon by Israel as a fascist move..
Israel is loosing a lot of point right now,and the Usa at the same
time...and Canada too cause Harper follow blindly
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Mark Leuck
> not a fan,it was the first time I heard of him,but in that interview he
did
> touch a few soft point......
He's a serious nutcase, and no better than the terrorists he supports
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006370177,00.html
> I don't know if the American and Israeli people know about how most of the
> rest of the world see the invasion of Lebanon by Israel as a fascist
move..
So what do you propose they do when they send over 1,000 rockets to you then
kidnap 2 soldiers?
> Israel is loosing a lot of point right now,and the Usa at the same
> time...and Canada too cause Harper follow blindly
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks? soon they will have to do the
same things we are doing
Petem
> So what do you propose they do when they send over 1,000 rockets to you
> then
> kidnap 2 soldiers?
the inverse has been true too,Israel is holding tousand of lisbanon poeple
in prison with out being prooved guilty of anything,they are the one that
started bombarding innocent people,after that 2 israely soldier been
kidnaped,then libanon asnwered back with rockets,you too seem to have a very
short time memory...is Leuck a jewish name?I am begining to think so,open
your eyes....
By the way did you knew that a family of seven,yup seven, canadian been
killed in the 2nd day of the bombarding by israel..they were visiting
relative in the south of libanon,they are not criminal or terorist,4 of them
were born in canada,(4 kids) and israel had no reason to bombard there
house,there were no military action at all,same for the 4 UN soldier killed
by israel,they called 10 time the leader of the israel army telling them
they were bombarding a UN observatory post,and still the ass hole killed the
4 man 1 was a canadian,just for that i am willing to go there and killed 1
israely...and i am not a terrorist,just someone that cant stand that kind of
action...
Jew suffered like hell in the 2nd war and they are using it now to do
anything......for how long the rest of the world will suffer cause of the
facist leader of the 2nd war and from now from the same type of action from
the israel and american leader...
> Who cares what the rest of the world thinks? soon they will have to do the
> same things we are doing
is the rest of the world interfering with the live of people on all another
continent?nope,well then i dont think they will have too
Mark Leuck
>
> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Wuydnf2VaP0VdEDZ...@comcast.com...
> > So what do you propose they do when they send over 1,000 rockets to you
> > then
> > kidnap 2 soldiers?
>
> the inverse has been true too,Israel is holding tousand of lisbanon poeple
> in prison with out being prooved guilty of anything,they are the one that
> started bombarding innocent people,after that 2 israely soldier been
> kidnaped,then libanon asnwered back with rockets,you too seem to have a
very
> short time memory...is Leuck a jewish name?I am begining to think so,open
> your eyes....
Afraid not, before the kidnapping they were getting nailed by over 1,000
rockets this year.
I'm not jewish however that seems to be a rather curious question from you,
as far as opening my eyes ask yourself this.. Over a million arabs live in
Israel, guess how many jews live in the surrounding arab countries? Once you
have the answer to that you might find you are the one who needs his eyes
opened
>
> By the way did you knew that a family of seven,yup seven, canadian been
> killed in the 2nd day of the bombarding by israel..they were visiting
> relative in the south of libanon,they are not criminal or terorist,4 of
them
> were born in canada
Hezzbolah seems to like to hang around the local population, they use them
as a shield and anyone visiting a potential war zone can't blame someone
else when they get blown up.
,(4 kids) and israel had no reason to bombard there
How do you know?
> house,there were no military action at all,same for the 4 UN soldier
killed
> by israel,they called 10 time the leader of the israel army telling them
Yes and several days before the commanding officer (a canadian) was
complaining that Hezzbolah was using them as a shield while attacking Israel
> they were bombarding a UN observatory post,and still the ass hole killed
the
> 4 man 1 was a canadian,just for that i am willing to go there and killed 1
> israely...and i am not a terrorist,just someone that cant stand that kind
of
> action...
Well that says it all, btw here's a video of your hero a few months ago
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476
Petem
>
> "Petem" <Pete...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zMpDg.39312$sY1.4...@weber.videotron.net...
>>
>> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Wuydnf2VaP0VdEDZ...@comcast.com...
>> > So what do you propose they do when they send over 1,000 rockets to you
>> > then
>> > kidnap 2 soldiers?
>>
>> the inverse has been true too,Israel is holding tousand of lisbanon
>> poeple
>> in prison with out being prooved guilty of anything,they are the one that
>> started bombarding innocent people,after that 2 israely soldier been
>> kidnaped,then libanon asnwered back with rockets,you too seem to have a
> very
>> short time memory...is Leuck a jewish name?I am begining to think so,open
>> your eyes....
>
> Afraid not, before the kidnapping they were getting nailed by over 1,000
> rockets this year.
can you proove your point here?never heard of that..
>
> I'm not jewish however that seems to be a rather curious question from
> you,
> as far as opening my eyes ask yourself this.. Over a million arabs live in
> Israel, guess how many jews live in the surrounding arab countries? Once
> you
> have the answer to that you might find you are the one who needs his eyes
> opened
when you act like dogs you get what you deserve and thats why they cant live
somewhere else then between them...
and when you say live in Israel,surely not with the jews,they live in there
small "bidonville" and they have to bow like slave to there master,they are
treated like non-humain
>
>>
>> By the way did you knew that a family of seven,yup seven, canadian been
>> killed in the 2nd day of the bombarding by israel..they were visiting
>> relative in the south of libanon,they are not criminal or terorist,4 of
> them
>> were born in canada
>
> Hezzbolah seems to like to hang around the local population, they use them
> as a shield and anyone visiting a potential war zone can't blame someone
> else when they get blown up.
>
> ,(4 kids) and israel had no reason to bombard there
>
> How do you know?
they were from montreal,and before the raid from Isreal south libanon was no
war region..
>
>> house,there were no military action at all,same for the 4 UN soldier
> killed
>> by israel,they called 10 time the leader of the israel army telling them
>
> Yes and several days before the commanding officer (a canadian) was
> complaining that Hezzbolah was using them as a shield while attacking
> Israel
still the israel govt could have send man on the terrain and leave the UN
observatory alone,but no they were to afraid to have there ass kicked,they
prefered to kill innocent man,father of 3,how do you think the kids of this
man (the canadian) will react later when they will see a jew?
>
>> they were bombarding a UN observatory post,and still the ass hole killed
> the
>> 4 man 1 was a canadian,just for that i am willing to go there and killed
>> 1
>> israely...and i am not a terrorist,just someone that cant stand that kind
> of
>> action...
>
> Well that says it all, btw here's a video of your hero a few months ago
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476
>
his not my hero,but you seem that resort to demolish a man reputation,then
to answer legitimate question,and give some good argumentation,for me this
proove your lack of argument..
its like i would have used the fact that Bush act like a real bully when he
is with the other leaders of the free world by calling them :hey ! Blair!
and he use 4 letter words to exprime hiself,prooving he has no
voculabory,that doesnt give me any more force in my argument,or when cameras
are in front of him but he think they are nor recording,start to give the
finger to the camera...that would just proove that i dont know much about
the rest of the subject...
Galaway can do as he like,act like cat ,act like a dog,but he sure know how
to point to the world how some leader act like facist...
Mark Leuck
>
>
> > I'm not jewish however that seems to be a rather curious question from
> > you,
> > as far as opening my eyes ask yourself this.. Over a million arabs live
in
> > Israel, guess how many jews live in the surrounding arab countries? Once
> > you
> > have the answer to that you might find you are the one who needs his
eyes
> > opened
>
>
> when you act like dogs you get what you deserve and thats why they cant
live
> somewhere else then between them...
> and when you say live in Israel,surely not with the jews,they live in
there
> small "bidonville" and they have to bow like slave to there master,they
are
> treated like non-humain
Wrong, Nazareth and Jerico are both mixed Arab/Jew cities, have been for
decades and mostly Palestinians. I still think its rather odd you wonder if
I'm Jewish, sounds like something more than you let on
>
> >
> >>
> >> By the way did you knew that a family of seven,yup seven, canadian
been
> >> killed in the 2nd day of the bombarding by israel..they were visiting
> >> relative in the south of libanon,they are not criminal or terorist,4 of
> > them
> >> were born in canada
> >
> > Hezzbolah seems to like to hang around the local population, they use
them
> > as a shield and anyone visiting a potential war zone can't blame someone
> > else when they get blown up.
> >
> > ,(4 kids) and israel had no reason to bombard there
> >
> > How do you know?
>
> they were from montreal,and before the raid from Isreal south libanon was
no
> war region..
Try asking the UN
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr013.pdf
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr014.pdf
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr015.pdf
BTW those troops have been there since 1977, they do nothing to stop
Hezzbolah, they just sit there which is what the supposed 15,000
"peacekeepers" will do (ie: nothing)
>
>
> >
> >> house,there were no military action at all,same for the 4 UN soldier
> > killed
> >> by israel,they called 10 time the leader of the israel army telling
them
> >
> > Yes and several days before the commanding officer (a canadian) was
> > complaining that Hezzbolah was using them as a shield while attacking
> > Israel
>
> still the israel govt could have send man on the terrain and leave the UN
> observatory alone,but no they were to afraid to have there ass kicked,they
> prefered to kill innocent man,father of 3,how do you think the kids of
this
> man (the canadian) will react later when they will see a jew?
Odd how you have no problems wanting to kill jews but when Hezbollah does it
you say nothing, I guess its okay of THEY do it
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06845878.htm
> >
> >> they were bombarding a UN observatory post,and still the ass hole
killed
> > the
> >> 4 man 1 was a canadian,just for that i am willing to go there and
killed
> >> 1
> >> israely...and i am not a terrorist,just someone that cant stand that
kind
> > of
> >> action...
> >
> > Well that says it all, btw here's a video of your hero a few months ago
> >
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476
> >
>
>
> his not my hero,but you seem that resort to demolish a man reputation,then
> to answer legitimate question,and give some good argumentation,for me this
> proove your lack of argument..
I don't have to resort to anything, he does it all himself
This from yesterday
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1228#
This from early this year, nice tights...
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1228#
Funny tho, unlike YOU at least George hasn't threatened to kill anyone
alarman
> live
>> somewhere else then between them...
>> and when you say live in Israel,surely not with the jews,they live in
> there
>> small "bidonville" and they have to bow like slave to there master,they
> are
>> treated like non-humain
Thre is something wrong with you.
js
Petem
> Wrong, Nazareth and Jerico are both mixed Arab/Jew cities, have been for
> decades and mostly Palestinians. I still think its rather odd you wonder
> if
> I'm Jewish, sounds like something more than you let on
jew and muslim in those city dont live in the same place,and muslim have to
be home by 9 and dont have the right to go out when they want
>
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> By the way did you knew that a family of seven,yup seven, canadian
> been
>> >> killed in the 2nd day of the bombarding by israel..they were visiting
>> >> relative in the south of libanon,they are not criminal or terorist,4
>> >> of
>> > them
>> >> were born in canada
>> >
>> > Hezzbolah seems to like to hang around the local population, they use
> them
>> > as a shield and anyone visiting a potential war zone can't blame
>> > someone
>> > else when they get blown up.
>> >
>> > ,(4 kids) and israel had no reason to bombard there
>> >
>> > How do you know?
>>
>> they were from montreal,and before the raid from Isreal south libanon was
> no
>> war region..
>
> Try asking the UN
>
> http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr013.pdf
>
29th of july...
> http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr014.pdf
>
30th july
> http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr015.pdf
>
31th july
the attack was allready begun at those dates..but before the initial attack
south libanon was not a war zone...
so the canadian there had every right to be there..but thats ok,they were
only dual citizen of canada and libanon,they were arab,christian arab,but
still they were arab aka bullet magnet...
> BTW those troops have been there since 1977, they do nothing to stop
> Hezzbolah, they just sit there which is what the supposed 15,000
> "peacekeepers" will do (ie: nothing)
>
so? if they were doing nothing as you said why kill them..? so there would
be no witness to the crime of war Isarael will do later?
> Odd how you have no problems wanting to kill jews but when Hezbollah does
> it
> you say nothing, I guess its okay of THEY do it
>
> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06845878.htm
>
well ONE mortar hit is a an error,bombarding till a post is destroyed is not
an error,same as in 1996
quote from the same artcle...
"In 1996, during Israel's Grapes of Wrath campaign in Lebanon, Israeli
bombed a UNIFIL compound in the southern village of Qana, killing 106
civilians sheltering inside."
thats typical of Israel as we can see....killing civilian...nice...
>> his not my hero,but you seem that resort to demolish a man
>> reputation,then
>> to answer legitimate question,and give some good argumentation,for me
>> this
>> proove your lack of argument..
>
> I don't have to resort to anything, he does it all himself
>
> This from yesterday
>
> http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1228#
>
> This from early this year, nice tights...
>
> http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1228#
>
> Funny tho, unlike YOU at least George hasn't threatened to kill anyone
and what about George? no he never said that he wanted to kill anyone,he act
as a leader in front of camera and mike that he knows are recording,but we
all seen it that when the mike are cut and the camera are down,he act way
differently,that's really hypocrite..at least some other are straight,they
don't talk differently when in front of a camera and then swath when not
recorded
but still that's not the reason I posted the link to the video,its because
this guy had the nerve to tell mister Bush and his Jew friend that the
attack they are doing at Lebanon right now is plainly a fuck war for 2
prisoner while Israel still hold thousand of innocent man...
what would the Use do if the inverse was true?now tell me....
Mark Leuck
>
> but still that's not the reason I posted the link to the video,its because
> this guy had the nerve to tell mister Bush and his Jew friend that the
> attack they are doing at Lebanon right now is plainly a fuck war for 2
> prisoner while Israel still hold thousand of innocent man...
>
> what would the Use do if the inverse was true?now tell me....
"Jew friend"?
Seek help soon
alarman
The scary thing is that there are a lot more like him.
js
Mark Leuck
Petem
there must be a reason...better ask yourself why........
Allan Waghalter
between Israel and its Arab neighbors, the following
two sentences really say it all:
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would
be no more violence.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would
be no more Israel.
"Petem" <Pete...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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alarman
I do, every day, but I haven't found the answer.
The only one the even remotely fits is that it is easier for people like you
to appease the Muslims, than to do what is right, and necessary; to stand up
to them. Appeasement didn't work in 1939, and it won't work now.
The Jews are neither the problem nor the enemy. It is a decided lack of
moral courage that plagues most of the world today, just as it did when
Hitler began his reign of terror. To believe otherwise makes you either a
fool or a coward. Which is it?
js
Ranger
"Allan Waghalter" <awagh...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Regardless of your feelings about the current crisis
> between Israel and its Arab neighbors, the following
> two sentences really say it all:
>
> If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would
> be no more violence.
>
> If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would
> be no more Israel.
Well said, Allen.
Pretty hard to argue with that. ( rationally, anyway)
Rick
Mark Leuck
>
> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Zf6dnUMRAs1u50LZ...@comcast.com...
> >
> >>
> >> js
> >
> > Sad but true
> >
> >
>
> there must be a reason...better ask yourself why........
Why usually involves improper diet, lack of sleep, poor parenting, drugs,
booz, voting for lefty candidates... etc
Everywhere Man
Israel doesn't, and will never back down from thugs, but if many
stateside jews had their way we'd have Al Gore or John Kerry as
President and Israel would wind up getting wiped off the map.
Maybe if bombs were dropping on NY or Hollywood they'd have a different
way of thinking. We just avoided another 9-11 and the libs STILL
promote appeasing the terrorists. Libs are so blinded by their hatred
of the Bush Administration they completely avoid any sense of rational
thought.
This is World War III and we are handling it like the Watts riots.
Osama is not Rodney King, and no, we all just can't get along.
The muslim world is no friend of ours yet we spend freely in their
corner stores.
Spend the extra quarter for the soda and buy from someone who doesn't
wish us dead.
Mark Leuck
"Everywhere Man" <alarmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1155600237.1...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> alarman wrote:
> > "Petem" <Pete...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > there must be a reason...better ask yourself why........
> >
> > I do, every day, but I haven't found the answer.
> >
> > The only one the even remotely fits is that it is easier for people like
you
> > to appease the Muslims, than to do what is right, and necessary; to
stand up
> > to them. Appeasement didn't work in 1939, and it won't work now.
> >
> > The Jews are neither the problem nor the enemy. It is a decided lack of
> > moral courage that plagues most of the world today, just as it did when
> > Hitler began his reign of terror. To believe otherwise makes you either
a
> > fool or a coward. Which is it?
> > js
>
>
> Israel doesn't, and will never back down from thugs
I think they just did
> but if many stateside jews had their way we'd have Al Gore or John Kerry
as
> President and Israel would wind up getting wiped off the map.
True and I never could understand that, maybe it was because of Truman being
the first leader to recognize the state of Israel
> Maybe if bombs were dropping on NY or Hollywood they'd have a different
> way of thinking. We just avoided another 9-11 and the libs STILL
> promote appeasing the terrorists.
4 planes didn't do it so I doubt bombs will
> Libs are so blinded by their hatred
> of the Bush Administration they completely avoid any sense of rational
> thought.
So true
> This is World War III and we are handling it like the Watts riots.
> Osama is not Rodney King, and no, we all just can't get along.
> The muslim world is no friend of ours yet we spend freely in their
> corner stores.
I know some muslims at "corner stores" and they do not think like that Tom
Petem
"Allan Waghalter" <awagh...@prodigy.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
lp%Dg.12363$gY6....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> Regardless of your feelings about the current crisis
> between Israel and its Arab neighbors, the following
> two sentences really say it all:
>
> If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would
> be no more violence.
>
> If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would
> be no more Israel.
>
>
That's exactly the propaganda they've been telling every one since day 1
how would you feel if a bunch of Islamism would come and buy land in the
US,then they would have enough people to fill,let's say,almost all of the
east cost and Washington dc...then declare themselves independent and want
to have Washington as there most holy site and that no one that is not
Muslim will have the right to live there...
for how long do you think you would fight them?
just one question,do you know Ben Gourion?
do you know what he did on the 14 of may 1948?
do you know Theodore Herzl?
Do you know the Balfour declaration of 1917?
do you know Sir Arthur Balfour?
go read about those name and event,then come back to me and tell me that the
Jew had the right to take the holy land for themselves,how by massive
emigration helped by the Brits at first and then the Usa,the Jew started to
take all the place...
they took by force the holy land of 3 religion, help by one of the
other(christianism,Surely to get rid of the Jews too..)
I have nothing against any Jew that live around me,I do have something
against the Israel govt...
Like someone said here in a newspaper
I am not a anti-Semite,I am a antisionist....and I was not before a few
month ago ,when I started to read on the subject,when I realized that a
group of immigrant in Palestine took control over the land to create
Israel..and that could have easily been describe as terrorism..
I know that if I would do so in Quebec right now,declare independence and
start a war over this,the Canadian govt would call me a terrorist..
the difference here is that the Jew won the war,lets say they would have
loose,they would be declared as terrorist in the history books..
Petem
"Everywhere Man" <alarmi...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1155600237.1...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
that sound like racism to me...
why not kill them all,no the constitution would not allow,lets castrate them
all,that way no reproduction,they will all go after some time....no
better,take all there stuff and put them on a boat to bring them back on
there land!yeah! that's the solution..
Petem
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
orOdnVw2yfJ3bH3Z...@comcast.com...
that's pretty good argumentation,we can see how deep is your knowledge...I
am impress..
Everywhere Man
Do you have any animosity towards the French Resistance for killing
Nazis, or the Canadian military for practically spearheading the
Normandy invasion?
Should your country hang it's head in shame for participating during
WWII? Was DeGaulle just as bad as Olmert? If your train of thought were
employed during WWII the French would still be goosestepping and kids
would be graduating from Hitler High. Muslim extremists are just as
dangerous as the Nazis were. You cannot appease terrorists.
BTW, history did not begin in 1947. Jews and Arabs have been fighting
over that chunk of land since the beginning of time.
You want a solution? Start dropping hams and pork sausage links instead
of bombs so both sides will have to stay indoors.