Straight-edge Idiots Re: Time Article on Straight Edge
Lord Fjuckhead
Jeffrey LaPadula wrote:
> Time
> August 30, 1999
>
> The Mutant Brady Bunch;
> Meet Salt Lake City's clean-cut, anti-drug street
> gang-and tremble
>
> Steve Lopez/Salt Lake City
>
> Things didn't quite work out for Josh Anderson in the
> Mormon church. Nor did a nondenominational Christian
> upbringing light the way for Randy Haselton.
> But neither teen gave up entirely on structure and
> clean living in Utah. The boys hooked up with Straight
> Edge, an anti-drug gang of middle-class kids, and
> discovered new passions. Josh became a vegan and
> firebombed a McDonald's; Randy enjoys beating the tar
> out of people.
>
> When the Olympics come to Salt Lake City in 2002, the
> phrase "Let the Games begin" may take on a whole new
> meaning. Randy, 19, has been known to wield a samurai
> sword and says, in the spirit of true sportsmanship,
> "You know that if you've hit a kid in the head with a
> bat and he drops, you don't hit him again." Josh, now
> 20, is probably not the best guy to run through Salt
> Lake with the Olympic torch. He has no regrets about
> taking down that McDonald's.
>
> He is probably going to cool it from now on, though,
> he said recently, as he and his fiance prepared to be
> married by a Mormon bishop.
>
> What next, Amish teens slashing car tires with garden
> hoes?
>
> Salt Lake City has a problem far more interesting than
> tornadoes and gold-medal scandals. Some would have you
> believe that if you bite into a burger or light a
> cigarette in the Utah capital, you risk being pummeled
> by one or more of an estimated 50 to 100 Straight Edge
> kids, and there might not be a more terrifying image
> than marauding teens who look like the tattooed,
> mutant kin of the Brady Bunch. The threat,
> fortunately, turns out to be an exaggeration. But
> Mormon Elder Alexander Morrison, fearing that Straight
> Edge could lure teenagers because it shares some
> philosophies with the church, uses three words to sum
> up a warning he sent to church leaders:
> "Steer them clear."
>
> It is unclear how Salt Lake City, of all places, wound
> up with the most
> crime-happy crew within Straight Edge, an unstructured
> international movement of young people, many of them
> pacifists who don't get high or sleep around and would
> never dream of calling themselves gang members. Even
> Utah's nonviolent Straight Edgers, who constitute the
> vast majority of the state's several hundred members,
> are clueless as to what went wrong here.
>
> Maybe it's just that in Utah, joining a social order
> devoted to clean living doesn't exactly distinguish
> you. Firebombing meat and leather outlets, using pipe
> bombs on a fur-trading office and setting minks free,
> however-as Straight Edgers and closely linked animal
> liberationists have been accused of doing over the
> past several years-tend to drop you from consideration
> for membership in the church choir.
>
> It is possible that more light will be shed on the
> subject next month,
> when
> the first of three Straight Edgers goes on trial for
> the murder last
> Halloween of Bernardo Repreza Jr., 15, a Hispanic
> youth. Repreza, whose
> father moved here from California to get his son away
> from violence,
> was
> attacked with a bat, a knife and police batons. "I
> don't understand,"
> Bernardo Repreza Sr. says of a bizarro culture in
> which having a beer
> is
> taboo but clubbing someone to death is A-O.K. "It's
> the most ridiculous
> thing I've ever heard."
>
> Local police say Repreza and some buddies got into an
> exchange of taunts with kids on the street. Police
> insist it was neither gang related nor racially
> motivated, but in the brawl that ensued, Straight
> Edgers squared off against non-Straight Edgers, and
> racial slurs were heard.
>
> With the Olympics coming to town, "some people are
> trying to downplay
> [the
> Straight Edge threat]," says James Yapias, a
> correctional and
> educational
> consultant. Others suggest that the group would get
> more attention if
> the
> bad guys were black or Hispanic. Nonsense, say police.
> Of the 200
> gang-related felonies last year in Salt Lake County,
> only three were by
> Straight Edgers. They might be the oddest gang, but
> they're not the baddest.
>
> They don't even have guns.
>
> Randy Haselton, who has multiple arrests for fighting,
> says Edgers won't back down if anyone "talks sh__."
> But as for cruising around looking to beat people up,
> he says, "that's a lot of crap."
>
> "Yes, and it's just by coincidence," mocks Salt Lake
> County sheriff's deputy Brad Harmon, "that if
> something happens, they've got samurai swords, chains
> and knives in the trunk."
>
> "I'm not going to say we haven't started fights,"
> Randy admits. "We don't do drugs. We get our rush from
> fights."
>
> Last year, outside a pizza joint, University of Utah
> student Mike Orthner says, "I asked a stranger for a
> light, and he said, 'We don't believe in that.'" Next
> thing Orthner knew, he was clocked with brass
> knuckles, and "some wacko" was waving a sword. Assault
> charges against Randy, who claimed he "didn't hit
> anybody with it," were dropped for lack of evidence.
>
> For all his willingness to pound his chest, Randy is
> utterly unable to articulate his political purpose.
> Josh Anderson at least has a cause.
>
> He
> says he drifted to Straight Edge, and the hard-core,
> punk rock-like
> music
> that is part of the scene, after his mother was
> ostracized by the
> Mormon
> church for coming out as a lesbian. He listened to a
> band named Earth
> Crisis, read books on animal liberation and became a
> vegan. One night
> in
> 1996, he and some Straight Edge mates drove by a
> McDonald's still under
> construction. "We joked and said it would be neat if
> we burned it down," he says. And so they did, going in
> with gasoline cans. "I had a Molotov cocktail. I
> waited until everyone was out in the car. I threw it
> and ran."
>
> This was a vegan act and not Straight Edge, says Josh,
> who has completed probation. Asked why Utah Straight
> Edgers are prone to violence, he says, "Maybe because
> this isn't the most exciting town, and a lot of kids
> need a cause."
>
> But it's not the violent fringe that interests
> University of Utah assistant professor Theresa
> Martinez. It's the nonviolent majority. "Thank God
> someone is coming out and saying we need structure,"
> says Martinez, whose Straight Edge e-mail pals tell of
> alienation and disillusionment. Ryan Spellecy, 26, a
> teaching assistant at the University of Utah and a
> longtime Straight Edger and pacifist, says the
> organization constitutes a rebellion against a culture
> that glorifies heroin chic and the idea that you have
> to smoke or wear Guess? jeans to be cool.
>
> But as gang-force detectives Robin Howell and Troy
> Siebert pull up to a
> perfect tract house in suburban Kearns on an assault
> investigation, imagine the horror of John Lim, a mail
> carrier who has tried to steer his three sons clear of
> Straight Edge. The detectives are in Lim's garage now,
> breaking down his stepson Jesse, 20, with a splendid
> good-cop, bad-cop routine. Jesse admits throwing a
> pipe at another kid during a fight at a cemetery, but
> he downplays the gravity of what police are calling a
> possible felony assault and swears that he is not a
> Straight Edger.
>
> "Oh, yes, he is," his father says, emerging from the
> house. And so are Jesse's two brothers, Lim adds with
> regret. Jesse, outed as a tough guy, tells all to the
> cops, a quiver in his throat. If he goes to jail
> instead of going on the Mormon mission abroad that
> he's been counting on, Lim says, it's his own fault.
> "I sure wish I understood what this Straight Edge was
> all about."
>
> --
> "The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not
> made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or women
> for men."
> - Alice Walker
>
> If just 2,000 of the world’s estimated 600,000+ vegans influenced one
> person to become vegan every five years on average, and these new
> vegans, in turn, also influenced one new person every five years.
> Although the change would be imperceptible at first, by 2057 more than
> 15% of the US population would be vegan. Alternatives to animal products
> would be cheap and plentiful. People would have no excuse not to be
> vegan. And at that pace, by 2068, the entire US population would be
> vegan.
>
> Please check out http://www.factoryfarming.com
> Please check out http://www.veganoutreach.org
> Please check out http://www.notmilk.com
> Please check out http://www.meat.org
> For your health, for the environment, and most of all for the animals!
> Please go vegan.
>
> Ready to try eating vegan? Go to http://www.vegweb.com for great vegan
> recipes!
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Ian Plakias
can't go to a show without seeing some short haired pussy teeny boppers
whining about not doing drugs and being militantly wuss-like, now I
can't go into the DEATH METAL newsgroup and escape it! Enough is
enough. Fuck those idiots! Hardcore is for people who want to pretend
they are different and extreme, without actually being so.
And let's not forget this is a DEATH METAL newsgroup, not hardcore.
Fuck veganism! You know that all these straight edgers are a bunch of
fucking hypocrites! They hate meat and milk and all that shit, but they
don't think twice about scarfing devil dogs and doritos. YOU ARE NOT
FOOLING ANYONE!! Now go eat your milk and cookies. And if you try to
take my tobacco from me, I'll break your skinny, malnourished asses!
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> don't think twice about scarfing devil dogs and doritos.
Fuck yeah man! HAIL SATAN!!!! Death to str8 edge geeks!!!! Long live doritos!
Lord Fjuckhead
XYOUTHGRL7 wrote:
> death metal sucks !
Thank you, Ms. Authority on Sucking. Hardcore has been dead and sucking
for more than 10 years. How's that new Rancid?
Eat My Shorts And Die
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>
> XYOUTHGRL7 wrote:
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> > death metal sucks !
>
> Thank you, Ms. Authority on Sucking. Hardcore has been dead and sucking
> for more than 10 years. How's that new Rancid?
>
I like when people say that modern day punk/hardcore sucks, and then when
they have to name a band to show they know something they say Rancid, or
some other band who has nothing to do with the real underground
punk/hardcore scene. It's awesome. Keep up the good work.
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Lord Fjuckhead
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Eat My Shorts And Die
> I saw Sick of It All on MTV2 a few hours ago...
Umm, I think you should go back and read what I said about Rancid. Go do
that. Ok, done? Same thing applies to SOIA. Try again, jackass.
Lord Fjuckhead
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Lord Fjuckhead wrote:
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> Green Day make this country what it is.
No, verb conjugation do.
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Eat My Shorts And Die
> Green Day make this country what it is.
>
That's funny, I coulda swore people like you make this country what it is.
Oliver Grendel Holmes
Eat My Shorts And Die wrote:
> Lord Fjuckhead <FUCKYOUgo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Green Day make this country what it is.
> >
>
> That's funny, I coulda swore people like you make this country what it is.
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