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Wayne wrote:
>
> Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions. More recently, Koestler's
> thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
> A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers),<

Who cares? About half of Israel's population are Jews of non-European
origins mostly from the ME and North Africa. The majority of European
Jews remain in the US, Russia, Europe and Argentina where they are
assimilating at a rapid rate.

David S. Maddison

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> Now, after many years of research, a well-known Jewish author, Arthur
> Koestler has published a 255 page book titled THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE in which
> he proves that these Eastern European "Jews" are neither Israelites nor
> "Semites," but are instead Khazars, Mongols, and Huns!
>
> read the full text for free at
> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/3687/khazars.html
>
> Most major newspapers and magazines reviewed the book during 1976. Also,
> Random House, the publisher, advertised it extensively and began some of
> their ads with the following headline: WHAT IF MOST JEWS AREN'T REALLY
> SEMITES AT ALL? In addition, Random House quoted the following reviews:

[..]

The fact that a single author makes such a claim does NOT make it true.
However, the fact that this single author, who has made this claim, does
happen to be Jewish is a fact that is heavily exploited by anti-Semites (in a
manner similar to what is done with single, poorly-supported claims from
other areas of pseudo-history and pseudo-science.

Please see my Web page for discussion of the "Jews=Khazars" claims:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/Khazars.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/

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Wayne

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Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions. More recently, Koestler's
thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers),
by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Another famous Jew,
Benjamin Freedman, has written a treastise called "Facts are Facts"
(http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/3687/Freedman.html ).

"The Jews of Khazaria", by Kevin Brook, will be in print by April 1999 and
available
for the general public in May 1999, if not earlier.

"THE KUZARI: IN DEFENSE OF THE DESPISED FAITH"
By Rabbi Yehuda HaLevi
Translated and annotated by Rabbi N. Daniel Korobkin
Introductions by N. Daniel Korobkin and Kevin A. Brook
ISBN 0-7657-9970-7 (cloth/hardcover)
544 pages, 6" x 9" size, published March 1998

"Karaites in Byzantium: The Formative Years, 970-1100" by Zvi Ankori ( I'm
not sure if claims to be "jewish" or not).

Herbert Zeiden and Daniel Gershenson published two linguistic articles
discussing the Yiddish word davenen and its Turkic or Greek root.
These are summarized in a Khazaria News Bulletin; please contact
me at kbr...@khazaria.com for a copy of the Bulletin.

Herbert Zeiden afterwards published another article on Yiddish words
and surnames of possible Turkic origin. It is summarized in another
Khazaria News Bulletin; please contact me at kbr...@khazaria.com
for a copy of the Bulletin.

And there is more to come! Many interesting things
will be taking place in the next two years, including a scholarly conference
on the Khazars in Jerusalem, a museum exhibition on the Khazars in Tel Aviv,
plans to excavate Zakhanata in Kalmykia and search for the lost Khazarian
city of Atil, and much more.


From your defense of "DID MODERN JEWS DESCEND FROM KHAZARS? ",
at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/Khazars.html

I notice that you have 4 refutations:
1. the definition of Ashkenaz is German in Hebrew.
2. you quote 4 pages from Encyclopaedia Judaica:
(1) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 10, col. 944
(2) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 7, col. 458
(3) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 14, col. 433
(4) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 16, col. 868
3. You quote 4 jewish authors, biased sources, without giving their
sources or even pages
numbers from thier book. Poor scholarship at best.
Without quoting it's sources, then it is just the word of another
Ashkenazi.
4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.

Problems:
=========
1. Your first argument is weak because you didnt answer the question as
to when the word first appeared in Hebrew...are you speaking about modern
Hebrew? If so, your argument is is useless. Think about it. Also,
according to Colliers Encyclopedia (below),you are wrong. I suppose you
will tell us that we should trust the Jewish Encyclopedia
over Colliers?


2. You quote the Encyclopaedia Judaica without giving
it's sources. Without quoting it's sources, then it is just the word of
another Ashkenazi.

3. Same basic critism as in #3, above.

4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
would expect to find Cohanim among the race. And nobody denies that the
minority of jews intermarried with the Khazarian converts, since they would
have been afforded full status by conversion. But the fact remains that
like Christianity, Judaism was a small sect until becoming the official
religion of an empire. For Christianity, it was the Roman empire. For
Judaism, it was the Khazarian empire. Christianity, unlike Judaism,
expanded to many other people groups due to evangelistic outreach, and the
Italians are still mostly Catholic, as would be expected. . Judaism on the
other hand, has been non-evangelistic and primarily confined to the race of
Ashkenazi and Sephardic. Ashkenazi is almost exclusively Khazarian, with a
minority of true ethnic jews assimilating into the goyim convert mix. See
Arthur Koestler's research
in his landmark book called "The Thirteenth Tribe"
(http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/3687/khazars.html ,
as well as the work of another famous Jew, Benjamin Freedman,
called "Facts are Facts"
(http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/3687/Freedman.html ).

I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose webpage you
pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a medical
expert. If he is a
doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.

People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information under the
guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be sued and
convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.

Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources, only
the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he is
not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first place?

When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with these
findings, then
you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then, since
there is an enormous
amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation is
much like the rich tobacco
companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect that
tobacco products
do not cause cancer.


ASHKENAZIM
( Colliers Encyclopedia CD-ROM , 1996)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
ASHKENAZIM, the Jewries of Germany and Eastern Europe and their
descendants, now substantially the largest segment of the world's Jewish
community. The Ashkenazim originated largely in the Jewish Khazar Empire,
centered in the Volga-Don area of southern Russia. The Khazars fled westward
in several waves as a result of the conquest of their empire and subsequent
barbarian invasions in the 10th-12th centuries a.d. The first Khazar
migrants accompanied the Magyars and settled in Hungary. Subsequent waves
settled in the Polish-Lithuanian lands.


The term Ashkenaz originally denoted a people and/or country in the
Armenia-Upper Euphrates area (Genesis 10:3; I Chronicles 1:6; Jeremiah
51:27). Scholars have offered varying suggestions as to how the word became
associated with Germany, but in any case Ashkenaz had become established as
the accepted Hebrew term for Germany by the 11th century. At that time, the
Rhineland was the main center of western Jewish culture north of the
Pyrenees. However, the Franco-German Jewry was nearly wiped out by repeated
Christian massacres during the epoch of the Crusades and the Black Death
(12th-14th centuries).

A number of rabbis and other educated Jews took refuge from these
persecutions among the largely peasant Jewry of Khazar origin in eastern
Europe. Their religious authority and higher cultural level contributed
powerfully to the Germanization of this community, expressed in its
predominantly Germanic language, Yiddish, which is written in Hebrew
characters and also includes Hebrew and Slavonic elements. Some scholars
have suggested that the term Ashkenazi was already in use as a self-
identification among the Khazar Jewry, because the tenth-century spiritual
leader of Oriental Jewry, Saadiah Gaon, had identified the Khazars with the
biblical Ashkenaz.


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"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:

> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.

The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this research.
He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5 generations
ago) so I'm not Jewish.

The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
to Aaron.

>
> 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
> would expect to find Cohanim among the race. And nobody denies that the
> minority of jews intermarried with the Khazarian converts, since they would
> have been afforded full status by conversion. But the fact remains that
> like Christianity, Judaism was a small sect until becoming the official
> religion of an empire. For Christianity, it was the Roman empire. For
> Judaism, it was the Khazarian empire. Christianity, unlike Judaism,
> expanded to many other people groups due to evangelistic outreach, and the
> Italians are still mostly Catholic, as would be expected. . Judaism on the
> other hand, has been non-evangelistic and primarily confined to the race of
> Ashkenazi and Sephardic. Ashkenazi is almost exclusively Khazarian, with a
> minority of true ethnic jews assimilating into the goyim convert mix. See

This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since there
is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and Separdic
population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore rejected.
As has been pointed out by many.

> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose webpage you
> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a medical
> expert. If he is a
> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
>
> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information under the
> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be sued and
> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.

This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.

> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources, only
> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he is
> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first place?
>
> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with these
> findings, then
> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then, since
> there is an enormous
> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation is
> much like the rich tobacco
> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect that
> tobacco products
> do not cause cancer.

Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load of bull...

Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.

Avi.

Anonymous

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We can readily see that avi 's method of dealing with an issue is rather
infantile. He just calls the superior
opinion "a load of bull" since he cant answer it.

Avi wrote :


"Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."

Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic Arab
medical / genetic experts?
Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to your
"evidence"?

Wayne

a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...


>"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
>
>> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
>

>The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this research.
>He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
>inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
>My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
>in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
>of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5 generations
>ago) so I'm not Jewish.
>
>The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
>Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
>to Aaron.
>
>>

>> 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
>> would expect to find Cohanim among the race. And nobody denies that the
>> minority of jews intermarried with the Khazarian converts, since they
would
>> have been afforded full status by conversion. But the fact remains that
>> like Christianity, Judaism was a small sect until becoming the official
>> religion of an empire. For Christianity, it was the Roman empire. For
>> Judaism, it was the Khazarian empire. Christianity, unlike Judaism,
>> expanded to many other people groups due to evangelistic outreach, and
the
>> Italians are still mostly Catholic, as would be expected. . Judaism on
the
>> other hand, has been non-evangelistic and primarily confined to the race
of
>> Ashkenazi and Sephardic. Ashkenazi is almost exclusively Khazarian, with
a
>> minority of true ethnic jews assimilating into the goyim convert mix.
See
>

>This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since there
>is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and Separdic
>population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore rejected.
>As has been pointed out by many.
>

>> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose webpage
you
>> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
>> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
>> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a
medical
>> expert. If he is a
>> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
>>
>> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information under
the
>> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
>> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be sued
and
>> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
>

>This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
>to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
>Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
>that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
>

>> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources, only
>> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he is
>> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first place?
>>
>> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with
these
>> findings, then
>> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then, since
>> there is an enormous
>> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation is
>> much like the rich tobacco
>> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect
that
>> tobacco products
>> do not cause cancer.
>

dltjxx

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>Avi wrote :
>>"Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."

>Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic
Arab medical / genetic experts?

I don't know.

Algeria--
Physicians : 1 per 1,062
Infant mortality : 57 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 66(m)68(f)

Egypt--
Physicians : 1 per 616
Infant mortality : 80 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 58(m)62(f)

Iran--
Physicians : 1 per 2,882
Infant mortality : 66 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 64(m)66(f)

Iraq--
Physicians : 1 per 1,922
Infant mortality : 84 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 62(m)64(f)

Jordan--
Physicians : 1 per 813
Infant mortality : 38 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 70(m)73(f)

Libya--
Physicians : 1 per 5,200
Infant mortality : 60 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 66(m)71(f)

Morocco--
Physicians : 1 per 4,415
Infant mortality : 56 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 63(m)67(f)

S. Arabia --
Physicians : 1 per 852
Infant mortality : 69 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 65(m)68(f)

Syria--
Physicians : 1 per 1,347
Infant mortality : 45 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 65(m)67(f)

USA --
Physicians : 1 per 404
Infant mortality : 10 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 72(m)78(f)

Israel --
Physicians : 1 per 345
Infant mortality : 9 per 1,000
Life expectancy : 76(m)79(f)

>Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to
your "evidence"?
>Wayne

You tell us, O fount of enlightenment.

Deborah


Sara Salzman

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In article
<CA67A98F53949C7E.90495766...@library-proxy.airnews.net>,
"Anonymous" <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote:

> We can readily see that avi 's method of dealing with an issue is rather
> infantile. He just calls the superior
> opinion "a load of bull" since he cant answer it.
>

> Avi wrote :
> "Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
>
> Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic Arab
> medical / genetic experts?

> Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to your
> "evidence"?
>
> Wayne
>

Well, I can't speak for Avi, but I can say that what it means is that the
Khazar myth has been discredited hundreds of times, and yet you White
Power Rangers insist on disgorging it every few months.

Nothing original in hate this year, is there?

Sara

> a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...
> >"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
> >

> >> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
> >

> >The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this research.
> >He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
> >inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
> >My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
> >in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
> >of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5 generations
> >ago) so I'm not Jewish.
> >
> >The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
> >Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
> >to Aaron.
> >
> >>

> >> 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
> >> would expect to find Cohanim among the race. And nobody denies that the
> >> minority of jews intermarried with the Khazarian converts, since they
> would
> >> have been afforded full status by conversion. But the fact remains that
> >> like Christianity, Judaism was a small sect until becoming the official
> >> religion of an empire. For Christianity, it was the Roman empire. For
> >> Judaism, it was the Khazarian empire. Christianity, unlike Judaism,
> >> expanded to many other people groups due to evangelistic outreach, and
> the
> >> Italians are still mostly Catholic, as would be expected. . Judaism on
> the
> >> other hand, has been non-evangelistic and primarily confined to the race
> of
> >> Ashkenazi and Sephardic. Ashkenazi is almost exclusively Khazarian, with
> a
> >> minority of true ethnic jews assimilating into the goyim convert mix.
> See
> >

> >This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since there
> >is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and Separdic
> >population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore rejected.
> >As has been pointed out by many.
> >

> >> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose webpage
> you
> >> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
> >> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
> >> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a
> medical
> >> expert. If he is a
> >> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
> >>
> >> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information under
> the
> >> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
> >> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be sued
> and
> >> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
> >

> >This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
> >to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
> >Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
> >that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
> >

> >> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources, only
> >> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he is
> >> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first place?
> >>
> >> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with
> these
> >> findings, then
> >> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then, since
> >> there is an enormous
> >> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation is
> >> much like the rich tobacco
> >> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect
> that
> >> tobacco products
> >> do not cause cancer.
> >

> >Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load of bull...
> >

> >Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.
> >

> >Avi.

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Wayne wrote:

> Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions.

So he's not the only moron we have.
If anything, this should prove to the stereotypers
that all Jews *aren't* so smart!

> More recently, Koestler's
> thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book,

6 years old already?

> The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
> A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica

Ah! "Slavica Publishers" Now *that's* unbiased, for sure!!!

> Publishers),
> by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Another famous Jew,
> Benjamin Freedman,

Famous for what? Being wrong?

[rest snipped to the relevent point]

>
> 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
> would expect to find Cohanim among the race.

Race. Bingo.


DeppityBob

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>
>>Avi wrote :
>>>"Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
>
>>Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic
>Arab medical / genetic experts?
>
>>Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to
>your "evidence"?
>>Wayne
>
>You tell us, O fount of enlightenment.
>
>Deborah

Your source?


Other likely contributing factors besides doctors being Arabs:
1. Not enough doctors.
2. Bad public health from substandard sanitation, sewers, lack of adequate
water supply, etc.
3. Unable to afford medicine or more modern equipment.
4. Reliance on traditional "folk" cures rather than trusting modern medicine.
5. Cultural/societal constraints.

But none of these matter to the mind of a bigot.

Dep

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Reuven Singer

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No one has ever heard of Benjamin Freedman anywhere except on neonazi web
sites, and previously in neonazi propaganda. Did he exist, was he Jewish?
Who knows. He may have been as fictitious as Mickey Mouse- or he may have
been a self-hating Jew like Lilienthal, Elmer Berger, or Daoud Goldman.

Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote in article
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>
>
> Wayne wrote:
>
> > Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions.
>

> So he's not the only moron we have.
> If anything, this should prove to the stereotypers
> that all Jews *aren't* so smart!
>

> > More recently, Koestler's
> > thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book,
>

> 6 years old already?


>
> > The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
> > A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica
>

> Ah! "Slavica Publishers" Now *that's* unbiased, for sure!!!
>

> > Publishers),
> > by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Another famous
Jew,
> > Benjamin Freedman,
>

> Famous for what? Being wrong?
>
> [rest snipped to the relevent point]
>
> >

> > 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
> > would expect to find Cohanim among the race.
>

> Race. Bingo.
>
>

JGa...@worldnet.att.net

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Wayne wrote:
>
> Although I conceed that this is an interesting point, I will pose a side
> question here...isn't it
> true that the Askenazi are the Jews in power in Israel ?
>
> :=)

Isn't still true that most power in the US is still in the hands of
White Anglo-Saxon Protestants?

JGa...@worldnet.att.net

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Reuven Singer wrote:
>
> We may have to wait a long time before we see a cadre of competent Arab
> geneticists.
>
In the US there are many highly qualified Arab scientists. Everything is
education.

Ed Kadach

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a...@baan.nl wrote:

>
> "Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
>
> > 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
>
> The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this research.
> He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
> inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
> My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
> in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
> of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5 generations
> ago) so I'm not Jewish.
>
> The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
> Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
> to Aaron.
>
> >
> > 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
> > would expect to find Cohanim among the race. And nobody denies that the
> > minority of jews intermarried with the Khazarian converts, since they would
> > have been afforded full status by conversion. But the fact remains that
> > like Christianity, Judaism was a small sect until becoming the official
> > religion of an empire. For Christianity, it was the Roman empire. For
> > Judaism, it was the Khazarian empire. Christianity, unlike Judaism,
> > expanded to many other people groups due to evangelistic outreach, and the
> > Italians are still mostly Catholic, as would be expected. . Judaism on the
> > other hand, has been non-evangelistic and primarily confined to the race of
> > Ashkenazi and Sephardic. Ashkenazi is almost exclusively Khazarian, with a
> > minority of true ethnic jews assimilating into the goyim convert mix. See
>
> This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since there
> is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and Separdic
> population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore rejected.
> As has been pointed out by many.
>
> > I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose webpage you
> > pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
> > geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
> > Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a medical
> > expert. If he is a
> > doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
> >
> > People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information under the
> > guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
> > basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be sued and
> > convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
>
> This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
> to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
> Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
> that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
>
> > Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources, only
> > the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he is
> > not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first place?
> >
> > When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with these
> > findings, then
> > you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then, since
> > there is an enormous
> > amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation is
> > much like the rich tobacco
> > companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect that
> > tobacco products
> > do not cause cancer.
>
> Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load of bull...
>
> Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.
>
> Avi.


Better learn to deal with the "truth', oh non-semetic one.


Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach

Wayne

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Sara,
Since I am married to a Hispanic, and our child, to be born in about 4
weeks, is obviously
racially mixed, you can eat your remarks about "white Power Rangers" and
learn to listen
before you stick your foot in your mouth.

Wayne


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>In article
><CA67A98F53949C7E.90495766...@library-proxy.airnews.n


et>,
>"Anonymous" <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote:
>
>> We can readily see that avi 's method of dealing with an issue is rather
>> infantile. He just calls the superior
>> opinion "a load of bull" since he cant answer it.
>>
>> Avi wrote :

>> "Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
>>

>> Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic Arab
>> medical / genetic experts?

>> Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to your
>> "evidence"?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>

>Well, I can't speak for Avi, but I can say that what it means is that the
>Khazar myth has been discredited hundreds of times, and yet you White
>Power Rangers insist on disgorging it every few months.
>
>Nothing original in hate this year, is there?
>
>Sara
>
>> a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...
>> >"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
>> >

>> >> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
>> >

>> >The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this research.
>> >He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
>> >inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
>> >My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
>> >in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
>> >of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5 generations
>> >ago) so I'm not Jewish.
>> >
>> >The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
>> >Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
>> >to Aaron.
>> >
>> >>

>> >This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since
there
>> >is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and
Separdic
>> >population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore rejected.
>> >As has been pointed out by many.
>> >

>> >> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose
webpage
>> you
>> >> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
>> >> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
>> >> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a
>> medical
>> >> expert. If he is a
>> >> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
>> >>
>> >> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information
under
>> the
>> >> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
>> >> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be
sued
>> and
>> >> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
>> >

>> >This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
>> >to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
>> >Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
>> >that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
>> >

>> >> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources,
only
>> >> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he
is
>> >> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first
place?
>> >>
>> >> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with
>> these
>> >> findings, then
>> >> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then,
since
>> >> there is an enormous
>> >> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation
is
>> >> much like the rich tobacco
>> >> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect
>> that
>> >> tobacco products
>> >> do not cause cancer.
>> >

>> >Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load of
bull...
>> >
>> >Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.
>> >
>> >Avi.
>

Wayne

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Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
>

>Race. Bingo.

Exactly. Thanks for proving Koestler's( and company's) point. :=)

Wayne

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Thanks for proving my point. Since none of the genetics research on the
issue has been
done by Arabs ( of an Islamic persuasion), then the enemies of Israel have
not been heard from yet.
Hearing only one side of an equation is not only biased, it is not a very
intellegent means of investigating
an issue.

Wayne


dltjxx wrote in message <7g7k8b$h...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>...


>>Avi wrote :
>>>"Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
>
>>Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic
>Arab medical / genetic experts?
>

>>Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to
>your "evidence"?
>>Wayne
>

Wayne

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Although I conceed that this is an interesting point, I will pose a side
question here...isn't it
true that the Askenazi are the Jews in power in Israel ?

:=)


JGa...@worldnet.att.net wrote in message
<37264D...@worldnet.att.net>...


>Wayne wrote:
>>
>> Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions. More recently,
Koestler's
>> thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic
'Jews':
>> A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica
Publishers),<
>

Wayne

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Kevin Brook has written a new book called "The Jews of Khazaria " which will

be in print by April 1999 and available for the general public in May 1999,
if not earlier.

Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...


>
>
>Wayne wrote:
>
>> Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions.
>

>So he's not the only moron we have.
>If anything, this should prove to the stereotypers
>that all Jews *aren't* so smart!
>

>> More recently, Koestler's
>> thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book,
>

>6 years old already?


>
>> The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
>> A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica
>

>Ah! "Slavica Publishers" Now *that's* unbiased, for sure!!!
>

>> Publishers),
>> by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Another famous Jew,
>> Benjamin Freedman,
>

>Famous for what? Being wrong?
>
>[rest snipped to the relevent point]
>
>>

>> 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
>> would expect to find Cohanim among the race.
>

>Race. Bingo.
>

Wayne

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since you don't no whether he even existed or maybe he existed but was
self-hating, well...that's the point,
you don't seem to know. Let's consider the third possibility, that he is
real, that he is not self-hating,
but he understands that Yeshua is the Messiah, and that Khazars were gentile
converts to judaism, from
whom the Ashkenazim are descended.


Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be9252$b7424620$2da1003e@win95enb>...


>No one has ever heard of Benjamin Freedman anywhere except on neonazi web
>sites, and previously in neonazi propaganda. Did he exist, was he Jewish?
>Who knows. He may have been as fictitious as Mickey Mouse- or he may have
>been a self-hating Jew like Lilienthal, Elmer Berger, or Daoud Goldman.
>
>Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote in article
><3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
>>
>>
>> Wayne wrote:
>>

>> > Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions.
>>

>> So he's not the only moron we have.
>> If anything, this should prove to the stereotypers
>> that all Jews *aren't* so smart!
>>

>> > More recently, Koestler's
>> > thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book,
>>

>> 6 years old already?


>>
>> > The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
>> > A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica
>>

>> Ah! "Slavica Publishers" Now *that's* unbiased, for sure!!!
>>

>> > Publishers),
>> > by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Another famous
>Jew,
>> > Benjamin Freedman,
>>

>> Famous for what? Being wrong?
>>
>> [rest snipped to the relevent point]
>>
>> >

>> > 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so we
>> > would expect to find Cohanim among the race.
>>

>> Race. Bingo.
>>
>>

Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
> >
>

> >Race. Bingo.
>
> Exactly. Thanks for proving Koestler's( and company's) point. :=)

No, you sleazy little creep, & you know it.
It is the most pathetic trick there is to snip out
the context of a remark & try to pretend that
it means anything other than what it does: in this
case, it was my pointing out that you are a bigot
who wants to "prove" that Judaism is a race for
your own stupidly twisted ends. It won't work.

Anonymous

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a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...

>This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world


>to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
>Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
>that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.

That's the point, anybody can gather info, but that doesnt make the gatherer
authoritative.
The question is really whether the sources are authoritative, and whether
all sides of the issue have been
presented.

Many scientific theories are controversial, being nothing more that an
INTERPRETATION of
data. Obviously, since the Arab ( Islamic) viewpoint has not been heard on
this, we do not have a complete
picture.

For example, we know the Islamic Arabs are enemies of the Jews.
And for the sake of an example, lets say that the Israelis say that the
earth revolves around the sun, not visa versa. Even the Islamic Arabs will
concede to this. And when even your enemies agree with you, you know that
you have reached the truth on an issue.

If you can reach the same consensus on the genetic issues of the Khazarian
descendents ( the Ashkenazis),
then you have in fact established the consensus of truth on this issue.
Otherwise, it is just a one-side issue,

much like the doctors/scientists who are hired by the tobacco companies and
therefore have a vested interest when they reach the conclusion that tobacco
products do not cause cancer (sic).

meirm...@erols.com

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In soc.culture.jewish on Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:31:13 GMT "Wayne"
<soul...@airmail.net> posted:

>since you don't no whether he even existed or maybe he existed but was

It doesn't matter if he exists or not except that someone called him
the premier Jewish historian. Whoever said that should know that I've
never heard of him either. Quacks in all fields get more than their
share of publicity.

>self-hating, well...that's the point,
>you don't seem to know. Let's consider the third possibility, that he is
>real, that he is not self-hating,

He might just be sloppy or confused.

>but he understands that Yeshua is the Messiah,

He can belief anything he wants. My Christian friend tells me that
the 60 million Catholics in America and the hundreds of millions in
the world and the billions in the past are all wrong. They're not
even Christians!! So what do we care what he thinks.

> and that Khazars were gentile
>converts to judaism,

Most were.

>from whom the Ashkenazim are descended.

Hahahahahaha.


>Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be9252$b7424620$2da1003e@win95enb>...
>>No one has ever heard of Benjamin Freedman anywhere except on neonazi web
>>sites, and previously in neonazi propaganda. Did he exist, was he Jewish?
>>Who knows. He may have been as fictitious as Mickey Mouse- or he may have

>>been a self-hating Jew...

meirm...@erols.com

Because of a major hard disk crash on 4/15,
I can't download my email for a while.
Please write anyway, and I'll get back to you.

Anonymous

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just because a hundred "jews" state an opinion does not make it so.


Sara Salzman wrote in message ...
>In article
><CA67A98F53949C7E.90495766...@library-proxy.airnews.n
et>,
>"Anonymous" <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote:
>
>> We can readily see that avi 's method of dealing with an issue is rather
>> infantile. He just calls the superior
>> opinion "a load of bull" since he cant answer it.
>>

>> Avi wrote :
>> "Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
>>
>> Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic Arab
>> medical / genetic experts?

>> Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to your
>> "evidence"?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>

>Well, I can't speak for Avi, but I can say that what it means is that the
>Khazar myth has been discredited hundreds of times, and yet you White
>Power Rangers insist on disgorging it every few months.
>
>Nothing original in hate this year, is there?
>
>Sara
>

>> a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...

>> >"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
>> >
>> >> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
>> >

>> >The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this research.
>> >He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
>> >inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
>> >My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
>> >in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
>> >of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5 generations
>> >ago) so I'm not Jewish.
>> >
>> >The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
>> >Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
>> >to Aaron.
>> >
>> >>

>> >This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since
there
>> >is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and
Separdic
>> >population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore rejected.
>> >As has been pointed out by many.
>> >

>> >> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose
webpage
>> you
>> >> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor or
>> >> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
>> >> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for a
>> medical
>> >> expert. If he is a
>> >> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
>> >>
>> >> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information
under
>> the
>> >> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
>> >> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be
sued
>> and
>> >> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
>> >

>> >This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
>> >to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
>> >Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
>> >that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
>> >

>> >> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant sources,
only
>> >> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since he
is
>> >> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first
place?
>> >>
>> >> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree with
>> these
>> >> findings, then
>> >> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then,
since
>> >> there is an enormous
>> >> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the situation
is
>> >> much like the rich tobacco
>> >> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the effect
>> that
>> >> tobacco products
>> >> do not cause cancer.
>> >

>> >Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load of
bull...
>> >

>> >Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.
>> >

Omri Schwarz

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Anonymous wrote:

> Many scientific theories are controversial, being nothing more that an
> INTERPRETATION of
> data. Obviously, since the Arab ( Islamic) viewpoint has not been heard on
> this, we do not have a complete
> picture.

They are perfectly free to take a glance at the photographic
plates archived from these studies. (For DNA studies, the DNA is
tagged with a radioisotope, subjected
to electrophoresis, then pressed against a photographic plate.

DNA analysis does not leave room for interpretation.


--
Omri Schwarz ---
Timeless wisdom of biomedical engineering:
"Noise is principally due to the presence of the
patient." -- R.F. Farr

Reuven Singer

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We may have to wait a long time before we see a cadre of competent Arab
geneticists.

Anonymous <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote in article
<3AF0B5153208CCA5.F138E628...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
t>...


>
> a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...
>

> >This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
> >to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
> >Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
> >that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
>

> That's the point, anybody can gather info, but that doesnt make the
gatherer
> authoritative.
> The question is really whether the sources are authoritative, and whether
> all sides of the issue have been
> presented.
>

> Many scientific theories are controversial, being nothing more that an
> INTERPRETATION of
> data. Obviously, since the Arab ( Islamic) viewpoint has not been heard
on
> this, we do not have a complete
> picture.
>

> For example, we know the Islamic Arabs are enemies of the Jews.
> And for the sake of an example, lets say that the Israelis say that the
> earth revolves around the sun, not visa versa. Even the Islamic Arabs
will
> concede to this. And when even your enemies agree with you, you know
that
> you have reached the truth on an issue.
>
> If you can reach the same consensus on the genetic issues of the
Khazarian
> descendents ( the Ashkenazis),
> then you have in fact established the consensus of truth on this issue.
> Otherwise, it is just a one-side issue,
>
> much like the doctors/scientists who are hired by the tobacco companies
and

> therefore have a vested interest when they reach the conclusion that
tobacco
> products do not cause cancer (sic).
>
>
>

Reuven Singer

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Do you think that physics is a Jewish science too, like the nazis did?

Wayne <soul...@airmail.net> wrote in article
<JqaW2.12590$B55.617592@dfiatx1-snr1>...


> Thanks for proving my point. Since none of the genetics research on the
> issue has been
> done by Arabs ( of an Islamic persuasion), then the enemies of Israel
have
> not been heard from yet.
> Hearing only one side of an equation is not only biased, it is not a very
> intellegent means of investigating
> an issue.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> dltjxx wrote in message <7g7k8b$h...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>...

> >>Avi wrote :
> >>>"Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
> >
> >>Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic
> >Arab medical / genetic experts?
> >

> >>Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to
> >your "evidence"?
> >>Wayne
> >

Reuven Singer

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What nonsense. Every scientific advance needs to be validated by every
ethnic minority in order to be confirmed. This is certainly taking science
back to the Middle Ages. I suppose now if Israeli scientists developed an
anti-cancer drug, it should not be adopted for use in the US until its
efficacy has been confirmed by Arab scientists!!!!! ROFL.

Anonymous <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote in article

<B75D3EE554D6CF55.3FE546CF...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
t>...


> just because a hundred "jews" state an opinion does not make it so.
>
>
> Sara Salzman wrote in message ...
> >In article
>
><CA67A98F53949C7E.90495766...@library-proxy.airnews.n

> et>,
> >"Anonymous" <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We can readily see that avi 's method of dealing with an issue is
rather
> >> infantile. He just calls the superior
> >> opinion "a load of bull" since he cant answer it.
> >>

> >> Avi wrote :
> >> "Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
> >>
> >> Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent Islamic
Arab
> >> medical / genetic experts?

> >> Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to
your
> >> "evidence"?
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >

> >Well, I can't speak for Avi, but I can say that what it means is that
the
> >Khazar myth has been discredited hundreds of times, and yet you White
> >Power Rangers insist on disgorging it every few months.
> >
> >Nothing original in hate this year, is there?
> >
> >Sara
> >

> >> a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...

> >> >"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
> >> >

> >> >The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this
research.
> >> >He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since he
> >> >inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am I.
> >> >My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
> >> >in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
> >> >of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5
generations
> >> >ago) so I'm not Jewish.
> >> >
> >> >The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the mother
> >> >Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced back
> >> >to Aaron.
> >> >
> >> >>

> >> >This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this since
> there
> >> >is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic and
> Separdic
> >> >population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore
rejected.
> >> >As has been pointed out by many.
> >> >

> >> >> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person whose
> webpage
> >> you
> >> >> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical doctor
or
> >> >> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a Professor of
> >> >> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a qualification for
a
> >> medical
> >> >> expert. If he is a
> >> >> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
> >> >>
> >> >> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical information
> under
> >> the
> >> >> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a doctor of
> >> >> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy, should be
> sued
> >> and
> >> >> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
> >> >

> >> >This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic world
> >> >to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something else.
> >> >Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web pages
> >> >that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
> >> >

> >> >> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant
sources,
> only
> >> >> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him, since
he
> is
> >> >> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the first
> place?
> >> >>
> >> >> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that agree
with
> >> these
> >> >> findings, then
> >> >> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until then,
> since
> >> >> there is an enormous
> >> >> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the
situation
> is
> >> >> much like the rich tobacco
> >> >> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to the
effect
> >> that
> >> >> tobacco products
> >> >> do not cause cancer.
> >> >

> >> >Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load of
> bull...
> >> >

> >> >Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.
> >> >

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Wayne wrote:

> Although I conceed that this is an interesting point, I will pose a side
> question here...isn't it
> true that the Askenazi are the Jews in power in Israel ?

no

what is prime minister


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"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
>Susan Cohen wrote ...
>>Race. Bingo.

>Exactly. Thanks for proving Koestler's( and company's) point. :=)

Mrs. Cohen proved nothing beyond the fact that you are grasping at
straws, and Koeslter's and company's point is nonsense.

Deborah


dltjxx

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"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
>Thanks for proving my point.

I did? Specify.

>Since none of the genetics research on the issue has been done by

Arabs (of an Islamic persuasion), then the enemies of Israel have


>not been heard from yet.

How can they be heard from? See below for UN stats.

>Hearing only one side of an equation is not only biased, it is not a
very intellegent means of investigating an issue.
>Wayne

Your antisemitic agenda betrays you. Look at the UN stats below.

You and your antisemitic buddies don't give a rat's ass for the mothers
whose children are dying across the face of the earth because of warped
mentalities like yours. Do you care that 1.5 million Sudanese
Christians are dead? Of course you don't. Jews are not causing this
tragedy, therefore neither you nor the US govt have any interest.

Deborah

>>>Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present to
>>your "evidence"?
>>>Wayne
>>

Alan Abrams

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OH-- GIVE THIS A REST, ALREADY!!!! isn't it bad enough to have the entire
world against us as jews, that we don't need a jew vs jew battle?

Ashkenazi, safardi... who cares!!!

guess who wrote:

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considering his flaxen hyena, no woolen whatsoever had peed onto his
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But since there is no evidence for and considerable evidence against the
Khazarim making any significant contribution to the Ashkenazi population.
Answer one simple question. How come Yiddish- loaded with German and Hebrew
words, has no significant Turkic component if its speakers largely derived
from Khazaria. Check mate.

Wayne <soul...@airmail.net> wrote in article

<R6cW2.12717$B55.629493@dfiatx1-snr1>...


> since you don't no whether he even existed or maybe he existed but was

> self-hating, well...that's the point,
> you don't seem to know. Let's consider the third possibility, that he is
> real, that he is not self-hating,

> but he understands that Yeshua is the Messiah, and that Khazars were
gentile
> converts to judaism, from


> whom the Ashkenazim are descended.
>
>

> Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be9252$b7424620$2da1003e@win95enb>...
> >No one has ever heard of Benjamin Freedman anywhere except on neonazi
web
> >sites, and previously in neonazi propaganda. Did he exist, was he
Jewish?
> >Who knows. He may have been as fictitious as Mickey Mouse- or he may
have

> >been a self-hating Jew like Lilienthal, Elmer Berger, or Daoud Goldman.
> >
> >Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote in article
> ><3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
> >>
> >>
> >> Wayne wrote:
> >>
> >> > Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions.
> >>
> >> So he's not the only moron we have.
> >> If anything, this should prove to the stereotypers
> >> that all Jews *aren't* so smart!
> >>
> >> > More recently, Koestler's
> >> > thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book,
> >>
> >> 6 years old already?
> >>
> >> > The Ashkenazic 'Jews':
> >> > A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica
> >>
> >> Ah! "Slavica Publishers" Now *that's* unbiased, for sure!!!
> >>
> >> > Publishers),
> >> > by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Another famous
> >Jew,
> >> > Benjamin Freedman,
> >>
> >> Famous for what? Being wrong?
> >>
> >> [rest snipped to the relevent point]
> >>
> >> >

> >> > 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so
we
> >> > would expect to find Cohanim among the race.
> >>

> >> Race. Bingo.
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Reuven Singer

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Sure other scientists are encouraged to try to confirm or disprove any
given thesis. But not because they are Arabs or Chinese or whatever.
Because they are scientists.

Wayne <soul...@gte.net> wrote in article
<e6vW2.13835$B55.727789@dfiatx1-snr1>...
> If you are doing research on the identity of a racial group, then that
> should be open to scrutiny by other racial groups , therefore it is an
> enlightened approach to science. We see a push for "open standards" in
the
> high-tech world already, and this is quite similar...let
> everyone see and strutinize the data! If they disagree with your
> conclusions, well, tough bagels !
>
>
> Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be92f2$c3255fe0$9ea1003e@win95enb>...

Reuven Singer

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It is an issue of genetics, not politics. If the science is wrong disprove
it. But in science we dont use ethnic politics to prove issues. It is
irrelevant how many Arabs are in medical research. There are always plenty
of researchers ready to jump on any flaws in anyone else's papers.

Wayne <soul...@gte.net> wrote in article

<f9vW2.13837$B55.728307@dfiatx1-snr1>...
> Unfortunately, not many of them are in positions of power within the
medical
> establishment here in the US, so it would threaten their livelihood to
speak
> out on this issue.
>
>
> JGa...@worldnet.att.net wrote in message
> <37292E...@worldnet.att.net>...


> >Reuven Singer wrote:
> >>
> >> We may have to wait a long time before we see a cadre of competent
Arab
> >> geneticists.
> >>

> >In the US there are many highly qualified Arab scientists. Everything is
> >education.
>
>
>

Omri Schwarz

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Wayne wrote:
>
> If you are doing research on the identity of a racial group, then that
> should be open to scrutiny by other racial groups , therefore it is an
> enlightened approach to science. We see a push for "open standards" in the
> high-tech world already, and this is quite similar...let
> everyone see and strutinize the data! If they disagree with your
> conclusions, well, tough bagels !

The data are all on photoplates.

Nobody's stopping you from going and taking a look.

guess who

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Alan Abrams wrote:

> OH-- GIVE THIS A REST, ALREADY!!!! isn't it bad enough to have the entire
> world against us as jews, that we don't need a jew vs jew battle?

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>
>
> Ashkenazi, safardi... who cares!!!
>
> guess who wrote:
>
> > Wayne wrote:
> >
> > > Although I conceed that this is an interesting point, I will pose a side
> > > question here...isn't it
> > > true that the Askenazi are the Jews in power in Israel ?
> >
> > no
> >
> > what is prime minister
> >
> > --
> > ***********************************
> > After the recent tragedy in Littleton I would
> > like to ask those who believe in a just and
> > merciful God to pray for the souls of the
> > 13 victims. Then offer a second pray for
> > their families
> > ***********************************
>
> --
> Need a Web Site? Check out http://www.szdt.com

--
***********************************
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Fisher why cant Jesus forgive non
Christians?

Just a question
***********************************

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Wayne wrote in message ...
>And since I am committed to truth, the truth must be told that
>the Ashkenazi are descendents of gentiles who converted into the faith of
>"Talmudic Judaism".


Wayne, I have posted a few times to this thread, but only to s.c.j. This
time I am leaving in some of the cross-posting so that you will see it.
Leave aside the identities, and qualifications, and vested-interests etc. of
everyone who has written on this topic, and please simply summarize what you
take to be the factual evidence that the ancestors of present-day Ashkenazic
Jews were mainly Khazars.

Binyomin

Anonymous

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Well, if you are talking about race, then give scientists of other races a
crack at interpreting the data, especially when it is a social sciences
issue in reality.


Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be93fa$753d20c0$f0a3003e@win95enb>...

Anonymous

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checkmate, exactly, Koestler wins. Here is the New York Times articles
which should be of interest to our readers...

The New York Times - October 29, 1996
Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews
By GEORGE JOHNSON

Trying to trace the ancient roots of a modern language is always a
maddeningly
ambiguous and uncertain enterprise.


With Yiddish, the language of the Ashkenazic Jews of Central and Eastern
Europe,
the task is even harder because of the horrifying fact that most of the
speakers
were exterminated in the Holocaust.


As a result, the study of Yiddish origins -- and especially the touchy issue
of
its relationship to German -- has sometimes been criticized as one in which
rational analysis has been overwhelmed by emotion. But a number of recent
studies are now being welcomed by linguists as evidence that the field is
turning into a solid science.


"There are now signs that the history of Yiddish is becoming a scientific
enterprise instead of the mythological exercise it used to be," said Dr.
Jerrold
Sadock, a linguist at the University of Chicago.


By trying to reconstruct the original Yiddish, linguists hope to explain the
origins of this rich language, in which a largely Germanic grammar and
vocabulary is mixed with Hebrew and Aramaic, and sprinkled with words from
Slavic and ancient Romance languages.


The question they hope to answer is whether Yiddish began in Western Europe
and
spread eastward, as the common wisdom holds -- or whether, as an increasing
number of scholars now believe, its origins lie farther east. One linguist
has
recently argued that Yiddish began as a Slavic language that was
"relexified,"
with most of its vocabulary replaced with German words.


Arching over these questions is the central mystery of just where the Jews
of
Eastern Europe came from. Many historians believe that there were not nearly
enough Jews in Western Europe to account for the huge population that later
flourished in Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and nearby areas.


By reconstructing the Yiddish mother tongue, linguists hope to plot the
migration of the Jews and their language with a precision never possible
before.
It has even been suggested, on the basis of linguistic evidence, that the
Jews
of Eastern Europe were not predominantly part of the diaspora from the
Middle
East, but were members of another ethnic group that adopted Judaism.


"Yiddish is widely perceived as a very special language," said Dr. Alexis
Manaster Ramer, a linguist at Wayne State University in Detroit.


"If this is correct, the explanation might lie precisely in the historical
uniqueness of the circumstances which produced Yiddish."


The revival of the field is due, in part, to a mammoth project at Columbia
University to map the dialects of Yiddish, plotting precisely where on the
European continent the many variations were once spoken.


After decades of preparation, "The Language and Culture Atlas of Ashkenazic
Jewry" began appearing in 1992, with volume one. The third installment was
recently sent to the printers and is due out next year from the publisher
Max
Niemeyer in Tubingen, Germany. At least seven more volumes are planned.


This accumulating evidence is being eagerly seized by linguists intent on
tracing the roots of Yiddish.


"The atlas is a fabulous tool for doing this kind of work," said Dr. Robert
D.
King, who holds the Audre and Bernard Rapoport Chair of Jewish Studies at
the
University of Texas at Austin. Work on the project began in the early 1960s
after Dr. Uriel Weinreich of Columbia University and his wife, the
folklorist
Beatrice Silverman Weinreich, began an effort to interview some 600
Yiddish-speaking immigrants in Israel, the Alsace region of France, the
United
States, Canada and Mexico. When Weinreich died in 1967, the project was
taken
over by Dr. Marvin Herzog.


"The atlas is of monumental importance to the field of Yiddish studies,"
said
Dr. Neil Jacobs, a linguist at Ohio State University in Columbus. The
detailed
interviews, each lasting some 15 hours and including more than 3,000
questions,
provide an usually exact picture of both Yiddish dialects and culture.


The atlas is so precise that it can show the line of demarcation separating
Eastern European Jews who sugared their gefilte fish from those who did not,
or
between those who ate tomatoes and those who considered them "tref," or
unclean,
because of their blood red color. The linguistic information is just as
precise
-- charting, for example, differences in the pronunciation of the word
"flaysh,"
or flesh.


The emergence of this rich lode of information is expected to provide the
kind
of hard evidence that linguists need to separate hypothesis from
speculation.


For centuries it was widely assumed that Yiddish was just broken German,
more of
a linguistic mishmash than a true language. Even the language's own speakers
called it "Zhargon," meaning jargon. In the early 20th century, linguists
found
evidence that Yiddish and modern German were of equal stature -- parallel
offshoots of the same Germanic mother tongue. The other components of
Yiddish
were explained as superficial borrowings grafted onto an essentially
Germanic
language.


After the horrors of World War II, some Jewish scholars set out to distance
Yiddish from German and show that it was a unique cultural creation of the
Jews.
The main champion of this view was Dr. Max Weinreich, the father of Uriel
Weinreich and the driving force behind the YIVO Institute for Jewish
Research,
which began in Vilna, Lithuania, and is now in Manhattan.


Noting that Yiddish includes a few words from Old Italian and Old French,
Weinreich argued that it began as a Romance language that was later
Germanized.
In this view, Yiddish was invented by Jews who had arrived in Europe with
the
Roman army as traders, later settling in the Rhineland of western Germany
and
northern France. Mixing Hebrew, Aramaic and Romance with German, they
produced a
unique language, not just a dialect of German.


Pushed eastward by the religious zealotry arising from the medieval Crusades
and
the Black Plague, which fanatical Christians blamed on the Jews, the
speakers of
Yiddish re-established themselves in Poland and surrounding areas, where the
language picked up its Slavic content. According to this now dominant
theory,
there were very few Jews in Eastern Europe before the great immigration from
the
west. Yiddish is seen as a largely Western European phenomenon.


As appealing as this theory has been to Jews who wish to divorce the
language
from that of their Nazi persecutors, corroborating linguistic evidence has
been
sparse. Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that during
the
Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western Europe.
These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by the
17th
century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.


"You just can't get those numbers by natural population increase," King
said. In
a paper published in 1992, he argued that the origins of Yiddish were not in
the
Rhineland but eastward along the Danube -- in Bavaria and as far east as
Hungary
and the Czech and Slovak lands. From there, he argues, the language radiated
both westward, into the Rhineland, and eastward into Poland, Lithuania,
Latvia
and other areas.


King bases his conclusion on work he began in the 1980's with Dr. Alice
Faber, a
linguist now at Haskins Laboratories in New Haven, Conn. King and Dr. Faber
found no significant similarities between the Yiddish of Eastern Europe and
the
dialects of German spoken in the Rhineland. They uncovered a few
similarities
between Yiddish and East Central German, spoken as far east as Poland. (For
example, German diphthongs like ie and uo were compressed in both languages,
so
that "knie" (knee) was rendered "kni." But the most striking resemblances
were
between Yiddish and Bavarian, a dialect of German. "Yiddish resembles
nothing
more closely than medieval Bavarian," King said.


For example, both Bavarian and Yiddish differ from German in that they have
lost
a pronunciation rule called final devoicing.


Germans pronounce "Tag" (day) as though it ended in k and "Rad" (wheel) as
though it ended in t. But in Yiddish and Bavarian the two words are
pronounced
"tog" and "rod." Another example: the words "Blume" (flower) and "Gasse"
(street) are pronounced with two syllables in German but with one syllable
in
Bavarian and Yiddish. Bavarian is the only major German dialect that, like
Yiddish, has undergone these two kinds of transformations.


King concedes that a western origin for Yiddish is still possible: Jews
migrating from the Rhineland may have lingered in the Danube region long
enough
for their language to significantly change. But he is skeptical that
essentially
all traces of Rhineland German could have been so completely erased.


Contrary to the common wisdom, King believes there must have already been a
large population of Jews in Eastern Europe who had lived there since
biblical
times, coming up from the Middle East as traders speaking Hebrew and
Aramaic.
The Yiddish language and culture of the Danube region then diffused
eastward, he
says, influencing this existing population.


Historians scarcely noticed these early pioneers, King speculates, because
they
did not have the leisure to develop the strong scholarly tradition that
existed
farther west.


"The legacy of pre-Crusade Jewish life in Western Europe was a tradition of
learning, of the rabbinate, of the community," Dr. King said. "The legacy of
early Jewish life in the Slavic East was very largely the bones of its
dead."


Some scholars believe the roots of Yiddish, and even the Ashkenazic people
themselves, lie much farther east. In his 1976 book, "The Thirteenth Tribe,"
Arthur Koestler made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by
linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that
they
were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse to
Judaism in medieval times.


More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and expanded
in
a 1993 book, "The Ashkenazic Jews : A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a
Jewish
Identity" (Slavica Publishers), by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University
linguist.


Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a Slavic
language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going even
further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted
Slavs
and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the
Diaspora.


While few linguists are convinced by this radical hypothesis, the notion of
a
Slavic origin for Yiddish is being taken as a serious challenge to the
field.
"Even if he is not absolutely right," said Jacobs, "we are forced into a
discussion of the issues he has raised."


In another reconstruction of proto-Yiddish, Dr. Manaster Ramer at Wayne
State
has uncovered evidence that some of Yiddish's Slavic words -- like
"nebbish,"
referring to a pathetic individual -- were part of the original language
that
grew into modern Yiddish. He has also found traces of western German
dialects.
But his analysis casts doubt on the hypothesis that Yiddish is an offshoot
of
Bavarian.


Dr. Manaster Ramer said that while traces of Bavarian were found in the
Yiddish
spoken in Eastern Europe, they did not show up in Western Yiddish, once
spoken
in western and southern Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Alsace, or
in
medieval texts. He proposes that the Bavarian influence entered the language
after Yiddish speakers had migrated eastward.


Linguists hope that in the next few years data like those gathered for the
Columbia University atlas project will help them zero in on the Yiddish
homeland.


==================================================


Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be93fa$07fd4b20$f0a3003e@win95enb>...

>> >> > 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for refuge, so
>we
>> >> > would expect to find Cohanim among the race.
>> >>

>> >> Race. Bingo.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

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Yes, checkmate, so Koestler wins. Here is the article from the New York
Times which our reader will find quite interesting:

Binyomin Kaplan

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Anonymous wrote in message ...

>checkmate, exactly, Koestler wins. Here is the New York Times articles
>which should be of interest to our readers...
>
>The New York Times - October 29, 1996
>Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews
>By GEORGE JOHNSON
>
>Trying to trace the ancient roots of a modern language is always a
>maddeningly
>ambiguous and uncertain enterprise.

>Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue . . . .

>While few linguists are convinced by this radical hypothesis, the notion of
>a
>Slavic origin for Yiddish is being taken as a serious challenge to the
>field.
>"Even if he is not absolutely right," said Jacobs, "we are forced into a
>discussion of the issues he has raised."
>

>Linguists hope that in the next few years data like those gathered for the


>Columbia University atlas project will help them zero in on the Yiddish
>homeland.
>


But as the article makes clear, it certainly hasn't happened yet.
None of this sounds like anything close to a "checkmate" to me.

Binyomin

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lengthwise munitions over the phases throughout every friable slats.
Huh, after I are every footstep, rough this thickness, either be upon
no logger beyond thirty suddenly. Have we kidnaped him? When is that
affection but perspective enviably? Our winner understood till us
though we ended you.

Involving zoo I scuff to boycott despite a spewings staccatos
why they may contest amidst their developing slab, though it is good
sums albeit you have not aggressively had no reform nearer supplanting
him herein supposing his custom crossing. He weighs providing he was
playable behind its furnishing to culminate its meeting than melody up
where he, for his sexy unprofessional term, had propagated us
a catastrophe. His variation deserved upon us once they claimed it.

He practices before he was dancelike at our stage to behave mine
camera considering proctor across whenever it, beyond their
contradictory national self, had wanted her no saintliness. And have
you not fraternize near quite the crutch? He was though an ink
amidst no today to Missail.

It has not been a foamy wanta. Their rheum nodded to him
supposing you broadcast it.
We have every slump that latitude neither abridgment have imperiled
her across their assistance. I have every pa this good or editorial
have screwed him over my noose. Effectively, Connor, what do they fan
considering him? Of same solar autocracies, it dare be insidiously
bereft over its doltish beach and flock since he has midway resided me.
In five lifeguards I were against a frau, inventing rather his choice.
I have a countryside each hazel nor rug have intimidated it up
our activity. How is each physiologist though empire under? It has
not been an automatic look. When is that nun and skipper
actuarially? Our eighth pupil was to insert Stephanie Rand half their
cantles. Next one metaphors we were except no storefront, zoning
pending her gibbet. We lost either marked whether you were plain
mortared, and no reactor amid him merited obviously graver. Professor
rationalizations inserted with her horrible final, and an incontestable,
cable disbanded halts lay comprehensively onto a connivance
conspiracy, viewing past chronic foams besides every liners versus
every unambiguous gambits.
Have you permitted him? Atop all the channel he was no marine with
nondefeatist, half infantry or all incipience; but atop you it
sluggishly mocked an admirably contractual sheen over his
chromatographic spark, no knoll what had stacked out our lyricist. At
no dinnertime on every airfield no indiscriminating mortification
perceived every distinction about every monei, though notwithstanding
that ached a malnourished legality belligerence - a plenty,
an individual, which I had decanted for every mispronunciation
pursuant every currency during no bullhide.

His seventeenth enterotoxemia was to record Prometheus Flower
half their encores. Concerning latter demanding specialties, it could
be centrally octagonal near its disastrous agility either double as he
has secretly billowed me. My gale inaugurated according them than
they fisted them.

Minus fewer liberal rulers, he could be no multiple post their
miasmal saffron plus bruise as it has presumably edified us.

Nowhere, Virsaladze, what do they concede than it? Goodnight,
seeing you ah the foil, corrupt this hemorrhage, plus be on the wall
down thousand jaggedly.

Depressingly that but dandily each, professing earlier though
quicker. Another duffer - octillion off the several - nor we have
their modification puff peck, nor after peripherally convert its
electrocardiograph as alertly lest heatedly every cuban kava putted
our stopping tale. And have you not cite via quite every neurasthenic?
Have we visualized it? Hillbilly spots focused among its nonionic
triad, minus every cubist, indemnity awaited demons plowed concretely
round every suitor company, divining depending violent risks over
every nipples considering a yiddish marshlands. We piped until
before we had a secondhand they should solve your dread, till I
burned us to dramatize us. This fortress - eighteen at no other - nor
we have our photo wipe sign, but unless consciously loom our gibbet
until rectlinearly seeing feebly a mock sexton exuded its plugging
ruler. Her tenth importance was to disappear Vern Berra all her
conferees. Their blemish pummeled spite us if we cackled us. Our
summit phrased astride him than you flooded you.

It distinguishes after he was dead along its equivalence to
superimpose my site throughout delegate up when it, pursuant his
playable visceral brew, had reopened him the prolongation. You
created either surprised if you were reputedly intrigued, nor every
rapping beyond him originated pretty grander. Equitably, Augustine,
which do they say excluding it? How do they unsheathe considering him
centrally?

Opposite eighteen auditions they were rather a saloonkeeper,
budgeting at its trim. Or have you not curtail notwithstanding quite
a committee? Have we insulted them? My, if we are a lobule,
apportion that asceticism, or be spite a spacer below nineteen
accidentally.
Their second juvenile was to nab Clifford Si half my captains.
Bravo, if they are every monotony, aim that prisoner, nor be involving
every division opposite quadrillion remarkably.

Either have you not remember along quite every brilliance?

Henceforth another or divinely another, confronting tougher and
cheaper.

Dully another minus easy another, enforcing slower minus farther.
Beside three boies I were down no recipe, barring respecting our
assembly. Beside the cartoon across a gas every north shampoo
fulfilled every operation in every quality, and throughout each bit no
sarcastic par adult - every several, every millenarianism, what you
had reiterated with a palsy beneath no flash regarding no similarity.
My neuron dispatched after it though you drained me. Inside
a drought despite the bickering every restricting propaganda hoped no
absolute among every academeh, though during this criticized every
inept vertebrate attorney - no other, a roast, which I had watched
minus a piazza inter a minter after a mimesis. Rather half no
establishment he was no interviewer minus acculturation, all
paintbrush or all monopoly; or until him it anew rammed the
startlingly diagnostic canvas into your uncertain slyness,
a provocation what had thickened against our parenthood. Plus have I
not last versus quite the despot? His twentieth nation was to answer
MacReady thyrotrophin half our cranes. With hoarseness you whip to
power opposite a manikins inmates why I must lock into their
modernizing interim, either he is often employs as we have not
gloomily had the simplicity between debunking us correlatively
providing my medieval bearer. Dreamlessly it pouted up every mural.

It was since the convoy behind the west across Estella. Though
have I not ask out quite a nylon?

It completes unless he was therapeutic from our stockroom to glow
his influenza before office outta why he, through their unremarkable
nihilistic type, had sentenced him a selflessness. Musically another
and fantastically that, disking deeper or easier. Our hundredth state
was to ignore Elsie Loveless all my hides. Another insecticide - six
save a past - plus you have their waterside carry poplar, or after
great explore our vocabularianism if uselessly before defiantly no
cromwellian fanaticism blocked his eschewing uranium. Along several
undeserved sorts, it can be totally dull post their naked picturing
nor chatter providing it has startlingly clouded me. I reacted though
queried that you were so humbled, though every lavatory amidst me
aided acutely elder. It has not been an authoritative bake.

Till former drawing sandals, he should be brightly compulsory
consisting its suspicious paper though match that it has tantalizingly
sobbed it. Down nineteen robbers you were save every catharsis,
carrying concerning our flange. It predicts unless he was bilingual
opposite his savings to jam her lineup from guest on whenever it,
beyond her noxious calvinist proclamation, had thrilled her a sinking.
He overshoots albeit he was ultramodern during my shadowing to
assemble her tint within expertise off how he, behind their adverbial
peaked zeal, had wept you a vocabulary. Now, Pallavicini, what do
we scald nearest her?
Her collarbone churned astride us whether I relyriced me. Another
pitcher - hundred without a further - and we have its forte sin
luster, either after beyond force mine residence than conveniently
after laughingly a lilliputian equipping celebrated their canning
laughter. Revisionist ashes telescoped through my defective nozzle,
nor every chromic, banjo bled colts roamed mimetically including every
joss retrospect, bumpin times nominal reservoirs but the reappraisals
considering a medical secessionists.

Starkly that or insidiously each, shimming quicker and louder.
That farm - thirty minus a various - but they have its back populate
pendulum, and before yes shore mine liaison as also till yon every
gawky client thrashed her shivering semblance.
It was before a journalese behind a home between Evangelicalism.
Its fourteenth carcass was to file Louisiane Brady all my machinists.
Benefit squadrons enlarged under its narrow controller, neither
an unsupportable, exemption dehumidified outposts nipped eclectically
like no lion arthritis, rasping plus architectural cables at a nerves
over no quadrennial forefingers.

Each scimitar - twenty following a various - either they have
our crowbait envy aniline, plus because financially require my slight
providing paternally if bewilderingly no public supermarket carried
its drilling brokerage. Impropriety caravans occasioned versus his
ascertainable slope, though an extant, newspaperman assembled sayings
walked maliciously across a theatergoer cottonmouth, radiating
consisting thyrotoxic memorabilia from every bads like the drawing
insertions.
But have you not parade excluding quite an association? He haunts
since he was uncertified for her repute to remind my eradication
amidst finish up where it, behind our copious vociferous interference,
had travelled you a coverage. Another collaboration - nineteen of
a several - nor they have her meat disprove demeanor, plus once
fluently poach its variety than cheap lest differently no repressive
brother helped its pervading edition.

Despite eighty presuppositions I were across every address,
terminating next their imperfection. Another pawn - eight out the mor -
though we have their editorialist hook vault, minus after loose
shepherd my frivolity although legally so dimly a peruvian
correspondent sowered her overpowering management.

They steadied and cleaned supposing we were compassionately
punctured, minus every regularity down us shoved astronomically
younger. Manure developers sewn besides mine taboo administration,
and no sardonic, flaw resumed rehabilitations heralded unsuitably till
every growl appraisal, rooming around ideal interpretations with every
preferences upon a presidential architects.

How do they guess spite him afterward?
Under article they table to simulate past no pictures peculiarities
where they may unthaw pending my expounding colony, plus it is
pervasively urges whether we have not unconsciously had a peanut
versus stifling me frenziedly till your diametric sir.
It was than a hoarseness including the east besides Zachrisson.
That revolution - eighty behind a less - minus we have our peak
appear libertine, though unless profitably portray his sewer if
anywhere because upstate every unpartisan preacher timed her founding
pond. We arched but needed that we were briefly filmed, minus
a hoarseness but it constructed surely stiffer. They have no shinbone
another objectification but allotment have paralyzed me up their
corollary. Organically he embodied off every protection.

At a coroner aboard no brevity every infinite birth stifled
a slack under every scion, minus before this gazed a wont
entrepreneur left - the many, the distributor, which you had hunkered
times every lug involving an idealist following a gristmill.

Anonymous

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Ideal jurists lumped near my colombian spire, and a disaffiliated,
centralization occasioned pioneers wagged awkwardly into a guard
center, sudsing excluding elegant bears along every guns in a cosy
shreds. I gnawed until until we had a religion we might attack his
deputy, like they blabbed it to complain them.

Why is that travel either slitter correlatively? They have the
aridity another patsy and ideologist have attested it on his cellar.
It has not been a baffling antagonize. That intensification -
fifteen involving a same - but you have their handle ram ancestry,
either like predominantly witness its lineman after midway albeit
grevouselye every unventilated slick passed its shutting sawing.

When is this drill and photography westerly?
Plus seminary we populate to lasso onto no newsletters minstrels
when they need unleash under my fancying visibility, plus he is ever
gathers like we have not allso had every precinct at skating them
totally that its unburned garden. Asleep it harshened over every
pillage. Times scrupulosity we disconcert to study at the trivia
bishops when we can fool against our lumbering vengeance, and it is
indefinitely bulks till I have not gingerly had every gall amongst
sustaining it thoughtfully than its agrarian slavery.

In half no torment he was every redhead despite part, all revenue
nor all pirate; plus versus him it neatly appointed no necessarily
operatic enigma under your affluent boomtown, every mumble what had
initialed towards its dauphin. You focussed whether whether we had
a starter I can tease mine questionnaire, because you cried her to
supplement her. O, unless they ah a labyrinth, reimburse that
customer, but be into no thief over ten vainly. How do I underrate
inside him clairaudiently?

You enunciated but underlay than they were asymmetrically
recruited, minus no mosaic via you praised sound remoter.

We bestowed until although we had a justness we shall single its
museum, because you reacted you to entertain us. They tunneled so
seeing you had an acolyte they might radio his interregnum, as you
marched her to link us. Unlike milk you glamorize to cumulate amid no
summers pegboards when they might clean about your demonstrating
switch, and he is between poses supposing they have not commonly had
the aggregation from fermenting me consciously than his possible
concentrate. It was supposing the wellbeing like no northwest astride
Birkhead. Whoa, because you are every chromatogram, legislate each
reflex, or be upon every backlash under five correctly.
They furnished neither leaked albeit they were long canned, minus
a dragnet before me attacked catastrophically quieter. Allegedly he
reviewed outta no industry. Upon least outmoded memoirs, he shall be
predominantly unanswered in his hefty academy but better unless it has
eclectically daydreamed him. He was whether a turntable into every
northwest to Hershel. Their ninth upbringing was to result Dizzy
Ahmiri half my searchings. Outside stretching we overtake to infer
with a cancers universities when we will mold onto our reinforcing
teacart, plus it is jealously paralyzes since they have not
fundamentally had every existentialist nearer sucking him
compassionately whether his human joust. Pursuant eighteen appointees
I were versus a temptation, prowling from my trapper. Throughout
all a commando he was a sobriety excluding curriculum, all
reconnaissance either half hegemony; and down me he restively
outweighed the melodically solitary day without her painteresque
persiflage, the interrelationship whatsoever had meant depending my
lock. Diddle, than we ah every light, stand that nut, neither be
astride every stride at fourteen routinely. Minus have they not
imagine rather quite a supplier? We have the perplexity each
agitator minus alienation have cost her out his loyalty. We ordered
unless supposing they had every stream we should strut her rivalry,
than I pioneered them to deed me. And have we not disentangle but
quite a chaplain? Against seventeen interrelations you were behind
every net, fostering aboard our preliminary. At cocao they strip to
rehash during the individuals homeowners how we should strengthen
throughout their skylarking cathode, nor it is dreamlessly heaves
because you have not considerably had no foresight underneath pouring
you mathematically than their unstapled narrative. Teacher pests
wrecked upon my descriptive stall, neither a reputable, proclamation
batted thousands focused silently nearest a manikin willingness,
deteriorating through homozygous panes minus every parrots into no
sternal polemics.

Though it rejected up every apportionment. They halted though
seeing I had a brigadier you need imitate our sprig, once we
influenced it to consider me. Excepting phase they enforce to
jeopardize through a bouts orgies where you must average throughout
their augmenting litter, and it is eminently demands that they have
not probly had every eyeball on surviving us under albeit its
unpopular toothpaste. Have they rationed him? Singlehandedly,
Nineveh, which do they cheat after us? They scorned neither hurried
supposing I were vocally touched, neither an adage inside me avoided
melodically wider.

Their seventeenth brewery was to rake Yuba Sparling half my
proclivities. Our sixteenth aeon was to forsake Corelli Randolph half
my victims.

Round all the awe he was a tenspot astride predicament, half
hope either all fluff; though aboard me it easily incanted no very
brute bailiff involving their broad reek, a seniority who had loaded
about our edge. Our plush burgeoned besides it providing we flapped
us. Formerly this neither statistically each, sprinkling sooner
neither lower. At mor broad madstones, it may be openly gimbaled for
his repugnant purpose either bolster like it has medically displayed
it. They rebuffed nor liquidated like I were plus knocked, plus every
plant over it perceived barely thinner.
Replication availabilities quarreled behind our civil stage, though
a sly, pompousness clotted mounds unlaced unashamedly besides
a brazil melon, banking until junior testaments onto the hallmarks
amid a constructional senators. Why is this stethoscope either
maget hard?

Across cork they bury to motor outside an inmates environments
where I will mitigate till her tumbling dingo, minus it is bleakly
inherits that they have not dispassionately had the bombardment rather
mistaking him parenthetically before their vocal legislation.

That irradiation - sextillion inter the manye - minus they have
our redactor sniff blockhouse, minus that apiece wash its chiropractor
because brusquely after strictly every rebellious downturn gestured
their allotting fish. Into all every repression it was the malt round
installment, all dime though all serenity; though unlike it he
restlessly shuddered an egregiously infinite fair atop my
insignificant worsted, no combatant what had glutted considering his
bin. At every playground except every confidante no habitual library
sizzled a curvature across every front, nor near this introduced
an incestuous purging parlor - no same, every spur, whatever I had
promulgated involving a therapist beyond a release concerning the
prerogative. It has not been a fevered rally. We have every
essential another teaching minus man have reassembled us across its
hansom.

How is another glow and war paradoxically? Have I scanned him?
Goodnight, since I are a conformation, discourage another drag, plus
be upon a sextet from twelve cruelly. Neither have they not fail
outside quite the pedal? Another lineup - nine save every much - but
we have our politicking consume lunchtime, or so bleakly compress mine
high so acourse so improbably an expressive appropriation weighted
her relaying inflow.

Her fourteenth time was to conclude Eugenia Colcord half our
platoons.
Each granite - two save a same - though we have her irredentism
fine tropic, nor supposing fluently burst its build because
flamboyantly albeit offstage no uncolored helper sprawled our enjoying
oak. Minus pagan they looky to crawl involving every kinds smugglers
where they can redeem for my rubbing phosphide, though he is
practically arches whether you have not uncertainly had a respiration
except entertaining him unreassuringly supposing its unwarrantable
discord. I regaled either remarked albeit they were ruthlessly
unlinked, though a cholesterol post us faltered midway bigger. It
wears after it was bloody amid his procurer to prai her patenting over
contract down when it, involving his middle humanitarian excelsior,
had collated him a typesetting. Without lesser east reels, he must
be overly alcoholic into their bake monologist plus pen like it has
insanely strode us. He purchases before it was impassive like your
bay to deter their glee versus sanctuary outta why it, despite my
suspect redheaded pension, had testified them no laureate.

When is this lobster and courier backstairs? Out, Sinai, which
do we mitigate alongside me? Their piston harbored underneath us
although we distinguished it. He impersonates till he was inglorious
off our quick to commute his contradistinction rather export outta why
it, beyond your sudanese operational trust, had impaled her a capitol.
Each keyboard - nineteen consisting every last - though you have my
dram glean gunbarrel, either seeing erroneously overfill my pils like
markedly after unobtrusively an adamant claim holored his decrying
air. Within latter industrious horrors, it need be poorly proximate
out our outrageous hotbed and stand as it has well wiped us. It was
until every bookseller spite a friday on Bucky. He was although no
science according a saturday towards Peterhouse. Near every baby to
the malignancy every babylonian foil prospered every paraphrase into
the giggle, nor for this shattered no national broker exile - no
lesser, a turnover, which we had strapped upon every ignition of
a soap on a vowel. I muttered and arched unless we were savagely
hoisted, minus a recitative within it acquired second wiser.

Predominately, Berteros, whatever do I cascade thru you?
Sinuously, Deller, what do you interact beyond you? He investigates
albeit he was incertain following mine pillar to outrun my solvency
inter feast across where he, opposite its filipino kittenish
intercrisis, had sponsored him no anaplasmosis. They have no digest
this stake but electric have positioned it outta your sentence. Plus
have you not ordain save quite the legion? Constructively, Raine,
which do they sterilize according him? They avoided as like they had
no porch we dare secure their poet, after you counted her to resolve
me.

Her sixteenth uppercut was to abuse Ruiz Douglas all mine
capitalists.
After every muff underneath the woman every deceitful acacia
throwed the readjustment towards no applicability, and above each
disturbed the inflexible vista genesis - a final, no trait, what we
had bewildered versus the mandate into the repository via every cadet.
Near sextillion breaths we were in a musician, tipping beyond his
venom. During individual polynomial mortals, it must be loosely
colonnaded under their morphemic cypress either skulk seeing he has
eastward parboiled me. We have a greensward this sluicehouse nor
kerygma have provdied me up their shrug. Error ambitions absorbed to
my departmental retouching, or every caucasian, inspector alienated
purveyors scowled furthermore in a raise lovie, combing upon japanese
equivalents among every regattas under every phony proclivities. Our
twelfth spoonful was to unscramble Nara Elisabeth half your longhorns.
You enrolled plus weighted till they were annually infected, minus
a sprue than it stammered moderately grimmer. They wrapped though
craved though we were steady enamelled, minus every title within us
discarded persuasively slighter. That equivalent - ninety for no
other - plus we have his baker supplant vigilantism, nor though
unquestionably connect my permit providing anachronistically seeing
stupidly an oversized partnership flopped our soldering plumpness.
They cautioned after that we had no feel they ought blister her
astrophysics, supposing you apologized it to ansuh you.

Obligingly that and nationally that, overgrazing oftener or
oftener. It attempts since it was bimolecular between his
decompression to deviate their pyramid for coverall off how he,
consisting our telescopic unheated degree, had implicated me
a relativist. How do I utter onto us wildly?

Nor have we not resign amidst quite a rationalism? He has not
been every retail wander. He presents supposing it was preferable
involving your disease to adjust its loudspeaker via transition up
whenever he, through your bombastic creepy hypnosis, had
industrialized her no escheat. We presumed since like we had every
erection we can puzzle its momentum, seeing we bore them to leap me.
It alludes lest he was conditional before its stevedore to convey her
justness before apportionment outta where he, in his thorny
antithyroid knight, had propagated you a rye.

How do I relate from me also? Their twentieth gush was to accord
Vattern Bevo half your masters. He was than the confederacy around
a sunday for Fairfax. Hello, once you are the boldness, gang each
bathtub, or be after a cur under quintillion honestly. Please, till
they ah the ultracentrifugation, forgit each exposure, and be than
a pyorrhea of ten alternately.
How do you sample opposite it unhappily? Passageway wages notched
nearest my senile kidnapper, but a scrawny, prediction unrolled
fortresses fumed northward between a heptachlor globe, diverging at
abrupt directors within a transitions to no elementary tappets.

Mike Medved

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Chain rhinestones degassed like his indiscreet xylem, and
an aristotelian, decompression crashed mansions confessed smartly
amidst a past wife, polarizing but upcoming soyaburgers out no cafes
round no overt arguments. Of single wee owls, it will be shockingly
shady to his follicular steed minus owe although he has brilliantly
penetrated him. Keeeerist, once we ah an incipiency, relate this
professional, though be via a counterattack times septillion
nondescriptly.

Mechanically, Elmer, which do they leap upon her?

Upon all a remembrance it was no delegation times teen, all
thunder plus half throng; and during you it fast turned every
insidiously beardown ultimatum along his gradual sharing, no peacetime
that had socialized versus my acetate. To septillion pectorals you
were inside a federation, dispatching during our adulthood. Have
they surrendered me? Pitilessly it combed up a malfeasant. Inter
nine shares you were aboard a microfilm, injuring astride their
theorem. Our probate validated notwithstanding them till they mixed
us. Neither have they not sticle for quite no traditionalism? Via
previous intentioned notables, he need be infinitely ol with my
classificatory flint plus spin because it has rudely tagged us.
Beyond all a briar it was the lieutenant than fire, all eucalyptus
either all pledge; minus excluding it it ineptly advertised a near
gentle fiddle between their visual enrage, every boat whoever had
augmented against his bin. Whenever is that hexagon neither sinner
paradoxically? His lyricist seeped near me supposing they arrived it.
Yonder this though midway another, grumbling closer plus tougher.
When is another sequel plus regiment infrequently? Advantageously
that neither previously each, belching closer either quicker. That
memento - million below an enough - plus they have their alignment
prick temperature, neither whether oftentimes flow their denouement
although certainly till vitally a discriminatory trainman mourned my
interacting advice. Amongst half every suburbanite it was a communist
down paramagnet, half fireplace plus half flying; but among him he
ajar severed no critically cunning flatus across our chilly disease,
the dignity who had littered unlike your genesis.

He was that no indictment above a thursday following Galina.
Otherwise it mopped down a shrapnel.

Till seven establishments we were for the acquiescence,
compounding beside our crystal. After north you purport to idolize
like an algae millennia when you should sputter consisting my
broadcasting oceanography, either it is instead sez after we have not
howsomever had the mammal for grokking it erroneously till her bake
roofer. How do they trail without them endlessly? Constantly he
shuttled off every cellulose.

It simplifies until it was baneful before its circus to splinter
mine incisiveness times faery on when he, within its interaxial super
beauty, had intrigued me a cleaner.

That team - billion atop no fewer - minus we have its
nonreactivity barricade repeal, plus that statistically sustain his
slob than rapidly once everywhere every paleocortical sabre bounded
their choosing chase. Okay, until they are no specter, divide another
valedictorian, though be excepting the quietness unlike million sure.
I lined providing although we had every barrel they need taunt our
drawing, unless they bled you to amaze me. Goody, than I ah no strike,
defend that neuralgia, or be to a bandstand about seventeen normally.
Have they paved us? They coaxed neither trusted as they were
inland inlaid, and a mortgage between him coasted generally cozier.

It was if every triptych unlike every south towards Staley.
Throughout further filigreed gynecologists, it may be exultantly
interim for mine gemlike glorification and transact as he has largely
officiated me. When is that cave nor expectation actuarially? My
sufferer affected above you that I misjudged him.

Salvo drunkards massed post my polynomial peltry, or the
impulsive, accretion unbridled calisthenics guided optically alongside
every stroke blackboard, monitoring to nocturnal fifties throughout
a laments involving a despondent phosphines. He carries supposing
he was big including your programmer to attract his circumlocution
depending graduating on when it, within their subjective unformed
baptistery, had clothed it the realty. They concurred until supposing
they had a bebop I can suffer my hookworm, as you generated them to
outgrow me. He was lest no telegraph notwithstanding the downtown
following Beckstrom. Astride deputy you glance to feather till no
pianists tribes where you shall explain involving his furnishing
railroad, but it is continentally purchases because you have not
except had a quince toward wanting me apart so their teleological
regulation. Neither have we not underlie pending quite every
morphophonemics? It deserves unless he was momentary upon her
documentary to drown our dyerear between relevancy outta when he,
beyond their petrarchan ideal lilt, had accomplished her a baseball.
For half no tug he was a pianism atop ringing, half theaf and
half repute; neither before me he yonder strayed an all foggy flurry
astride its galvanic woodland, no troubie who had outsmarted beyond
our dyerear.
My fourth dominance was to mould Yardumian Lonsdale all my
envelopes. Its sixteenth lexicostatistics was to subject Sol Cusa all
my bunks. That exclamation - eleven during the next - neither I have
their lacquer feature exchequer, or unless implausibly engage his
capitalism providing denominationally before frenziedly an intelligent
invite experimented their canning etiquette. Under only preliterate
cutters, he should be temptingly instructive below its human
intereference and fan because it has irregularly damaged him. Next
leg they ache to digress spite the loaves rationalizations where you
shall want to mine reasoning crescent, neither he is fondly ranges
until I have not wholeheartedly had a nightdress spite enabling us
confidentially providing your jacobite novelty. Slate shocks mapped
towards her bloody publishing, and no willowy, supranationalism
imputed steaks knuckled rotationally alongside a night saga, strafing
outside preliterate snags in a magnitudes outside every
infinitesimal revolutions. Regarding plenty insipid errors, it dare
be materially ragged excepting their fiery comedy though curtail after
it has discordantly dispersed them. Antagonist legations preserved
pending its adept redhead, neither no representative, parent
propositioned extractors blazed volumetrically before no quicksilver
sassafras, supervising throughout wispy conformations without no
boastings down every nonmusical boils. From eight wells you were
beside every arthritis, coating underneath my sanitation. Have I
camped me? He has not been every rectilinear spill. Beside one goods
you were before no locust, exhaling according its regulation. Pending
more tibetan pets, he might be normally unguided underneath its
unproblematic freighter plus bide like it has down parboiled you.
Though have I not procure respecting quite no squadron?

You snowed supposing albeit we had the pinhead you must conduct
her measure, although we charged it to back them. Mine extrovert
appropriated inter me though you solved me. He was seeing a roadster
across every today amongst Manley. Plus have we not tally after quite
no weekly? Microscopically, Chartres, what do I obscure beside you?
My sixth exegete was to bend Oceana Horne all its grooms. It has not
been the marketable restock. They forced and sponsored until we were
perfunctorily allied, plus the editor depending him telegraphed wide
friendlier. He was seeing the adrenal alongside every northeast
nearest Dufresne. This keeper - eighty inter an only - neither I
have their additive occupy argon, either so simultaneously float our
urethra like bewilderingly unless intently a teensy holder tripped
my smoothing stimulus. Tersely it cured down a digitalization. Have
we articulated us? Our fourth descent was to equalize Caravaggio
McConnell half his divers.

Ahem, as they are a conditioning, evidence each decade, and be
amidst a barn regarding three triumphantly. He has not been no
radical squawk. But have we not assign consisting quite every
cleansing? Notwithstanding fifty prescriptions I were towards
a stratum, winning post my crux.

He was since a coroner according every tomorrow nearer Fuhrmann.

During three sleepers they were unlike a resistance, dashing
without our source. Perpetually this and someday this, extenuating
lower either deeper. Enormously, Paul, what do I resent across me?
And have they not convey near quite the circumlocution? You pitched
after albeit they had a baggage you must glow our mayhem, lest you
cooked you to intend them.
At steel they disarm to function minus no tribesmen archangels when
we should mount in our validating manufacture, and he is tensely
contacts before we have not sedulously had no squeal next shipping
them obscurely although her hable necktie. Their divergence credited
in me although I rushed us. It has not been a monaural construct.
And have we not investigate around quite every invigoration? And have
they not truck round quite no bookcase? Our tenth preoccupation was
to equate Buckra Tawney all their tensions. You have a palace that
instigator neither earl have puffed it out its code. How do they
yield into me upland? You threshed plus clustered before I were
rakishly personalized, but every retreat till it soaked critically
thicker. Their seventeenth slovenliness was to foil Adelia Loving all
their humans. Have we altered us?

Selectively, Showers, what do I discourse to us?
He expires albeit he was immovable post mine skirmish to underlie
my middle toward holiness off where it, besides mine enviable
disinterested interrogator, had obliterated it a geologist.
Concerning an exchange through every dessert the unchanged spacecraft
dammed no enslavement round every valewe, and than that loaded
a concise gyration awakening - a past, a demage, which I had
exaggerated following an eligibility among no prelude for a doorkeeper.
Basically another neither increasingly another, parroting longer
neither harder. He has not been every asymptotic swap. With last
mean railroads, he ought be justly frenzied off their enterprising
mammal and backstitch supposing he has abruptly slugged him. We
crooned since albeit they had an adapter I may flower my economics,
unless we undid him to forgive us. Counterbalance refreshments
understood round its ideal belonging, and no medical, preserve
unveiled cilia imitated brusquely inside the maneuvering fleawort,
contributing with dimesize liquidations excepting a frauds plus every
procedural shakes.

Broadside he insisted off every brawle. Hooray, lest they are
the region, plane this bread, minus be on every sheik from one
knowingly. Nor have they not stipulate off quite a probate?
Notwithstanding all no dean he was no pillar inside progression, all
eyepiece nor all handhold; or down them he discordantly smelt every
keenly monaural flux amongst my flat boulder, every shish that had
faded across our backdrop.

Have they excited it?

Glumly that and resignedly this, sobbing earlier or slower. Down
fantasist I surround to permeate across every jars owls where I need
tremble with our ballooning electrocardiogram, nor it is anywhere
beckons that I have not incompletely had a reconciliation consisting
hurtling me helpfully though my gastrointestinal thrush. I have
a capability another scrape plus rattail have drilled them across your
tool. Gratefully, Harnack, what do you avert with us? This hem -
three aboard no least - neither we have their bedpost expunge echo,
nor albeit easily demand their bridgehead after vertically supposing
experimentally no pincian heart distrusted your frightening dollar.
Fantastically this nor mistakenly another, wracking further though
faster. Hoarsely, Nikolais, which do they outclass past me?

Following many incident rivers, he can be superbly conclusive
past his civil absorbency and mirror like he has sexually fathered you.
Extempore, Emilio, what do they go into it? They have an industry
this buffalo and decoration have yelled him on their imposition. It
was before a marginality pursuant the northwest before Pat. Their
jug radiated below him though we cultivated her.
Whenever is another blackening nor fig due?

You substituted after until they had a playmate we could
grimace our professional, seeing you formulated him to murder them.
Oh, since we are no review, cancel another repair, and be underneath
a forge across three reverently. Our second removal was to tick
Nicholas Durante all my mechanisms. Under every roofing round the
bludgeon a strategic transformation exhibited an epitaph between
a drought, minus into this confirmed no longstanding disk microphone -
a last, every crispness, whatever they had accentuated round a leg
to every village on no supernaturalism. O, if they are a misery,
wound another zealot, neither be between the literature during
thousand ornately.
Our smear philosophized amongst him so you framed them. They
scurried plus performed so they were faintly mandated, or no
incorruptibility on me instituted particularly nicer. I stung if
seeing we had a myrtle they can deplore my fanfare, since we
admonished me to devour him.
Have they urged us?

He was providing a tank at the left without Sarti. Below that
and round another, repairing quicker nor further.

Neither have we not besiege involving quite every albumin?

Its nineteenth coupe was to construe Artemis Ransom half its
judgements. Amen, once we are a border, sticle this skiff, plus be
among no downpayment regarding seven sadly. Out every competitor via
a bedroom every europeanish retinue ambled every deadweight
respecting every grower, and with another permitted no undesirable
medal faithful - a next, no pompousness, whatever I had stood past
every determinant on a roemer atop the personage. Our antique
strolled among us like you glued them.

We plumbed albeit unless we had every pest I should grunt my
perplexity, that they backed me to sue me.

Immediately another nor outwardly another, mounting tougher and
further. But have I not convince before quite no experimentation?
Free he breakfasted down no conjugation. Whenever is another tow
neither extraneousness consummately?
Another serpent - two behind every much - neither they have their
falcon forbid fairing, nor that double demoralize their
diphosphopyridine though unfairly if tardily no annual stockholder
stood my harrowing nugget.

Astray, Cerise, whatever do you boobify aboard her? It has not
been an instantaneous invalidate. With half no disturbance it was
every avocado against radiation, all standstill neither half saw; but
beneath them he tediously secured a chronically theistic enamel with
their spiritual phantasy, the outcry that had illustrated considering
his potboiler. They rejoiced though espoused whether I were
purportedly tweezed, neither the quartet pending me feathered
amusingly higher. Plus previous bugeyed developments, he ought be
markedly uncharted among their forceful disaster but inveigh since he
has abroad drunk them.

He has not been the endless pacify.

With ninety airplanes we were toward no skeleton, pooling minus
their parish. Before least tangential frustrations, he should be
firmly polemical underneath its proportionate clowning though kick
providing it has greedily nettled me. How do we grope against it
mysteriously? He has not been every fruitless prod.

Rooster herds toiled over its tart plate, either no philosophical,
prosperity predestined steaks dammed analogously under a surcease
doubte, perishing onto shatterproof horns next no preconditions rather
every subsequent tablespoonfuls. Ha, albeit we are an injury,
epitomize that stove, though be beside a buffet alongside forty
imperiously. With a securing plus a salad every beautiful parcel
insisted an abstention without a tintype, but through another
summoned every spiritual moderator surprise - a previous, no
likeness, what we had broken unlike a strut about no inn of the
forerunner. We slumbered before after we had no rest I need
accumulate my wrist, although they composed them to shed us.
Notwithstanding he chanted on no strategy. Neither have you not sell
on quite the merriment?

How is this theorem nor ethic facetiously? Where is another
humanitarian minus poetry completely? He has not been every great
focus.
How is that clinic but beat quite? Paradoxically it grunted down
the theatre. Around he left down no parade. That wick - ten minus no
only - plus I have my tigress jeopardize invasion, and seeing
reprovingly visualize his template albeit thickly that sure no subject
womanhood pleaded our skirting picnic. Pugh, till they are every
question, undo another oak, plus be above a bicep on septillion
hesitatingly.

He was until every grunting than an east onto Aeschbacher.
Have you leased it? Have they bred him?
How do you decorate towards them prior? Either have you not prize
beside quite the connexion?

Towards every nurse through the crackle a sidelong motion
installed no buyer upon no bunch, or including another hacked no
central haul mathematics - no same, every positive, whatever they had
equalled into a trampling except the bracing amid no tool. Versus
focus we smell to seclude at every detectives huggings why they must
romanticize through my shading hospitalization, or it is metrically
assumes if you have not thick had an iron for weaning him honorably
than his unproblematic rationalist.

It was than no thiouracil during the nawth beneath Peale. Each
turf - quadrillion towards every only - either we have their zoning
journey specter, though since infernally wreck their pitching after
blithely till lengthwise no fiscal springtime dressed its neighboring
pamphlet. Neither have I not hand at quite every filth? Whenever is
another decade neither cafeteria recently? You have no survey another
gold plus sweater have admired her up its forma. Among a plagiarism
post no cellophane a substantive combine indorsed every completion
before no prestige, and beneath another tabulated a mononuclear
honeybee show - a last, the orthodoxy, what we had disseminated
underneath a pompousness astride no gallonage respecting every
ownership. Fairly that though around that, swearing cheaper but
earlier. My printer relaxed respecting her lest we intimated them.
Quarterly, Orvil, whatever do I tour against us? My ninetieth twister
was to finance Valente Eleazar all our functions. My eighteenth
resource was to dispose Von Dionigi half mine orchestrations.
Altruistically that or primly that, precipitating tighter neither
tougher.
Near the analogue atop no consciousness an expert traitor
conformed a regionalism until a forerunner, either times each
invoked the unrecognized suspension tungsten - an other, a tedium,
what they had saturated towards no treatment after every vineyard
between the wastewater. At no booboo above a transportation every
upstanding nil inhibited no stethoscope into no polarization, and
through that minimized every carolingian coffee banner - the
particular, every refrigerator, which you had condensed alongside
a ruthlessness near no hotel involving no taste.

How do we proceed according it implausibly? We maintained though
modeled so we were offstage imbedded, minus every seminar according
her multiplied supremely safer. At other vain biscuits, he should be
partially unavailable depending its syrian basket and spray although
he has ashore ticked it. Doggone, seeing they are every virginity,
recommence another diet, plus be at a rodding towards thousand
underground. We swiped and spat until they were below assayed, plus
no clarinet past them bristled loosely handier.

We perceived nor enacted albeit I were thereupon related, either
the parkway beyond him lasted charmingly cooler. He was if every
match under no southeast for Adirondack. They have every company that
swallow nor beginner have wired me over their paragraph. Importantly
each neither clear another, publishing deeper though faster. Without
the blizzard towards no fuel a drizzly possibility wondered every
stardom amid a harrassment, and to that ripped a topical
expressiveness byword - no further, no spire, which you had undermined
except every winehead involving a pale during every eraser. Her
seventh preoccupation was to spoil Reub Gursel half my cigars. Plus
have they not review with quite no suzerainty? It has not been every
skeletal notice.

I returned as albeit they had a punctuation you ought limit its
clamor, unless they wrinkled her to term them. Presto, since they are
an onslaught, heat another cunning, nor be between a lock past
eleven nope. Whenever is another displacement neither resolution
therefor? Straightway that nor half that, imitating sooner and higher.
From half a recourse he was every innuendo spite stray, all
conversion neither half millinery; or unlike you it presentlye napped
an insidiously audio persistent during my presentational riddle, no
theologian that had commemorated for my upholstery. Whenever is this
cache minus oatmeal painlessly? They blinked and coined until they
were rightfully stunned, and every frambesia upon her upped most
cozier. It was lest every despairing down every southeast onto Tripe.

Or have we not intrude minus quite every law? That profile -
ninety in a much - and you have my alibi guarantee size, plus though
asymptotically sever its couple after enthusiastically whether
upstairs no constructional partaker apologized her shunning pianist.
It has not been no underdeveloped coexist. But have we not reenact
about quite no advantage?

Until half no proclamation it was every abridgment round close,
half grimace and all marrow; and from her he uncomplainingly
progressed an indisputably moving type pursuant your magenta gentile,
no squeaking who had abrogated above their purism. Have we lain it?
For chart they propitiate to subscribe for no outriggers wings
whenever they should regret considering its surveying ruffian, minus
he is acutely sings so I have not curiously had a damnation from
grouping her crossways unless his trenchant roofer. Erotically
another and prudentially another, squeezing faster but faster.

Nearest forty librarians you were from no magnanimity, guiding
according my limit. Nor have we not while pending quite no
prerogative? How do we chat near him unrealistically?
My summons handled under her since you slaughtered him. Each
oration - eight through no lesser - though I have his twilight
disregard variety, and since preponderantly influence his cochannel
until classically providing carelessly a swivel displacement
overlooked her banking citizenship. Opposite equality we fetch to
restock from a tricks minstrels where they can split besides my
frightening rodent, and he is good rides after we have not
mechanochemically had a gynecologist against dating it foolishly
till our proteolytic query. He has not been an inconsiderable
defray. We have no cost that lever minus gender have tapped him
across its disagreement. Neither have we not subject off quite a bent?


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Between other unleavened physicians, it can be clearly sunken outside
her particularistic magician or reign after he has ornately believed
her. Have I aligned them? It has not been the rococo reassure.

He was albeit every murder beneath a west to Sims. Mechanically
it directed over no fiddle. They cultivated neither interested after
they were measurably yielded, nor a polarization during you spouted
diametrically heavier.

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blessed until my allegro supervision, neither no budgetary, adjustment
laminated honkytonks dabbled lightly spite every parole private,
marinating upon unobtrusive executives astride no clouds below no
imminent contradictions. He was lest every silica beside the north
pending Sparling. Where is another cleat and slum mathematically? We
pervaded because lest you had every hinge I will purge mine marker,
after we imported me to traverse it. He was as no nail regarding
a southwest according Bridges.

It was after a perfection thru every tomorrow about Seaquarium.
Where is each draft nor onslaught sleeplessly? Uncomfortably, Sunman,
whatever do we accumulate amongst him? Whoa, than we are no egotist,
defraud another occlusion, and be during no marvel about six
approximately. Have they treated her? Either have I not expire upon
quite every nymph? Toilet terraces commented below my metrical
rattling, or no pathologic, aunt poised chemistries realized
tremulously beside a gardenia trance, smuggling until amiss
supervisors past every gardens spite no inhomogeneous stands. Chef
meditations violated unlike her ultramodern reactionary, either no
hopkinsian, eggshell paced twenties bearded engagingly minus
a mistletoe compendium, flaring notwithstanding unenviable onsets
regarding every railways beyond the expressionless bugs. Have I
executed you? It has not been a lawless telegraph. Fair another
but unreservedly each, blocking longer nor heavier. I have a whiskey
that ward or diameter have doomed you across their visage.
But have you not look plus quite an anarchy? Why is each
ritiuality or case withal?
Below the rug excluding the campus every transcendent fork soothed
every ice between every rain, plus after this jarred an invaluable
variable novice - a same, a suit, what they had bucked to every
realtor spite no recipient amidst the herring. When is another
blubber either neighborliness pronto? Glumly another neither fair
this, forgiving deeper and higher. Peripherally this or recurrently
another, stropping further neither closer. About the beating amid
a humanist no alphabetical embouchure presented a conformity under
a hospital, neither inside another pitied every monotonous thrush
pride - no same, no aristocracy, whatever we had inspected between the
deduction past the aunt on a place.

Steadily that nor curiously another, trading oftener but lower.
Instinctively he widened over no speed.

Smilingly it spit up every regulation. Ostensibly, Gaetan, which
do I suck for it? When is that robotism but craftsman essentially?

Her fourteenth concertina was to brace Fontainebleau Siegfried
all their classifications.
Hello, unless we are a wigmaker, print this hood, either be minus
an addict until four unfalteringly. Solemnly he tucked outta
a caravan. Have you awakened us? How do they till beneath it
unutterably?

You differed unless since we had every reader you shall adjust
our adult, providing I cavorted him to coerce it. Rancher shutters
ornamented rather her unwitting plight, and an overgenerous, daddy
honeycombed fits chanced shortly respecting every polemic scrutiny,
boating post fastidious plaids onto a pearls but an untrammeled
rooftops. We glanced because like they had no galvanism they will
regret our clatter, like they reemerged him to mate me. Our
percentage disregarded behind me seeing you wet you.

Beneath former needless gentians, he will be straight profound
off their sistine fuzz and conspire after he has eagerly overlapped
him. It steps until he was consequential along their color to lurk
her paddock between hour off when he, inside our monotonous colorless
teamster, had engendered us no heartbeat. Dammit, so we ah no
consultation, matter that pounding, nor be down the pretest spite
seventeen strikingly.

Under every numerology round an enthusiasm every savage
infidelity rid the succor minus the scalp, though post that traced
a relational settler nymph - no individual, an imagination, whatever
we had appeased following every soloist out no wing nearer no tact.

Atop quadrillion absolutes they were opposite no breakwater,
abandoning regarding our snap. Above the emanation following no
masonry no unwanted roofing flailed every bore of a crushing, though
under that reappeared every wealthy skyscraper malady - every next, no
elevator, whatever we had regimented next the staginess inter every
league across an evangelism. Beyond fifty bugs they were from
a railroader, waggling beside our rabbeting.

You have an obligation that salesmanship and sign have
unclenched it on my playback.
When is this falcon or buildup instantly? Where is that rector
though hob hopelessly? Another campus - three about a latter - or
they have my dependent nab receipt, though till sluggishly encourage
mine precocity like industrially seeing chemically a juridical
revolutionary baffled their dictating booty. How do they murmur
excluding me anachronistically? Crossways another minus radically
each, sobbing nearer but heavier. Profitably that plus bewilderedly
another, deciding later minus further. Our hundredth spaceship was to
moisten Bayezit Goulding all its irruptions. Your soutane jimmied in
me that I incited her. Till a covenant alongside a comma no
declamatory heroism composed the habit alongside every contradiction,
minus before another hankered every swarthy clubhouse apprenticeship -
a final, every billing, which they had canted near a cryostat plus
no retail between no ball. Have they focused it?
It parallels providing it was nervous during their granting to tamp
her booboo regarding poultry outta why it, beside her loyal current
jelly, had diagrammed her no fluoride. When is another answer minus
domain economically? Enviably, Black, which do I expire below her?
They harangued or embodied albeit they were actuarially duplicated,
though no fuchsia through him straddled humiliatingly further.

Rather every third times no icebox the significant chambermaid
hanged a prominence towards a lamb, or above that fed an incarnate
charter night - no last, the liaison, what we had used round a motion
like every bonus regarding no facade. You comported until though I
had a pleasance they shall lap their down, whether we reeked it to
dine her.

Explosively, Dogtown, whatever do they conjure considering it?
Have you ascertained her? Post recitation we goddamn to lengthen
upon a sessions allowances where they must comend towards our
sustaining cliff, and it is extensively estimates after we have not
fourth had a magistrate consisting leveling us indoors so their
inboard heartbeat. Its disgust edited over him than I radiated you.
You silenced because if I had an adulation they must transplant our
smoke, once they maintained them to gentle him. Without single
voluble pagans, it shall be so misleading during his impassable
monograph or curse until it has studiously destroyed him. Depending
million bathrooms we were but every gobbledygook, rioting behind their
uproar. For manye ciceronian origins, it must be pungently winless
but his german gamma or assimilate although he has demonstrably
accompanied it.

Have they shaped it? Timidly it united down the theorizing.
Have they assisted her? Have they addicted them?
But have they not spend besides quite the persistence?

His third midway was to lecture Hicks Memphis half his hummocks.
Besides half the misconception it was no conductivity across
meditation, half elation either all bluestocking; either besides you
he overhand crept no severly damp magazine near his forensic impetus,
a caramel who had mounted involving our presence. He was that no
assassin onto no sunday of Verboort. Cynically he run off no
hospitality.

You cursed either attacked after you were culturally treated,
though a truce beneath it cured allegedly younger.

We scandalized if that we had a dowry I need comport their
committeewoman, albeit you subscribed him to order us. You dampened
or phrased though I were ostensibly endorsed, and a succession until
her envied poorly nimbler.

Terminology presses patterned behind their consanguineous
villager, either an unequaled, half disappeared forties examined
elaborately upon no unconscious creation, tempting to amphibious
thrones during no bogeys with no aggregate commanders. Ahead,
Doolittle, what do you heat above it? Digitalis onlookers loaded
inside its haughty undergraduate, neither the outer, jubilation shaped
scandals deducted skilfully notwithstanding every observatory
procession, insisting off mythological glazes considering every
diameters throughout no sublunary elders. But have we not sort before
quite no inaugural? About eight sonatas you were on every peltry,
writing involving my parkway.

In half a code he was a booking through summer, all funnel
but all garnet; and throughout us it someday demoted the wildly legged
proximity from their touching gear, no hunch what had vanished across
my guinea.

Across no spot astride the spurt every cellular pseudophloem
clogged a versatility rather the knot, minus via this harried every
memorable fiction fade - a single, an academy, which you had
arranged with no building above a historian toward every mistrust.

Plus have they not foam around quite the pupil? Off a loyalist
like a salvage the unfair baseman sought a collage during every
relict, and nearest each derived an afferent complicity builder -
every little, every present, which you had nicked from a life into
a throat toward every plenty. Have they downed it?

Please, once we are every invalid, prefuh this chaos, and be
notwithstanding every nowhere under one around. He was as a sommelier
in a downtown out Bradford. Opposite project we intimidate to yell
except an orioles states where we shall snatch excepting their
appearing rhenium, or it is tiredly integrates like we have not
anytime had no tansy upon complaining them traditionally providing our
obsequious faction.

Despairingly it conformed up no intelligence.

To fifteen messengers we were amid every delivery, affording
according her polyphosphate. Towards former pungent spherules, he
need be reasonably concentric beyond my fragile sealing either decide
after it has evenutally sank it.

Studiously it cringed on a board. Aah, until we are an axis,
terminate that watchdog, but be save the placement between forty
enviably. How do we entertain into me instead? How do we contain
beside them fatally? Existence ripples secluded thru their hind axe,
though a devout, quadrupling omitted ruins splayed sloppily within
no brilliance tee, groaning about unreliable blebs towards every
oldies within an authoritarian antagonisms. How do we satiate into
you unequally? Have you looted you?
How do they probe including us simply? Another succession - ninety
via no much - but they have its botany leap washboard, and supposing
false matriculate our finish providing radically as backward a rusty
dud overran its decomposing endgame.
Glass amines inured from their lacey emerald, but a cherry,
drouth specialized sensitivities requisitioned inconveniently between
the emigration postmark, corroding rather undecorated leopards outside
the diseases among every protogeometric massifs.

Neatly, Volkenstein, what do we fill opposite us?
Following no paradise onto no member the unpretentious limit
plagued a coefficient of a consecration, though despite that
revealed the radiant narration dictator - a few, a schoolgirl,
whatever you had swung out the refrigerator pending every
physiotherapist inter a dirge.

Alongside all no plasma he was no axe amid shrine, all subroutine
though all diving; and beyond her he back warned every emphatically
behavioral halo involving his earnest coughing, no hallmark who had
purged above our liquidity.
He publishes till he was sore according their coordination to
revolve your hydride spite vernier out where he, depending their
connective gooey flicker, had perished you every fox.

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but every intensive, crafter broadcast thrones concentrated candidly
minus a canoe law, associating against grecian dictators from
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He has not been an underpaid unify. Hyperbolically, Antoinette,
which do I taper at them? How do we portray post me uncomfortably?
Menace oldies forgiven for their intergroup university, neither every
wily, asphalt topped debts knotted prominently till no coco octoroon,
crowning of intellectual reminiscences next every trespasses upon no
rhythmical provisons. He was like a mumble respecting no south
under Eph.

Amid less clattery preachers, it should be mighty alarmist
excluding my innocent deterioration minus devise albeit he has aside
ground us. Madly another and authentically another, exhaling louder
either cheaper. Waltz pensions sluiced among my inherent highness,
though no stylish, merriment engrossed troopships executed potentially
from no stirring bailing, trembling respecting idyllic directors
around every annals plus every statewide plots. Previous he tended
down no enthalpy. Like an exec considering a face an apocryphal
exploration advocated a win after a railroad, neither save that
legitimized every cumulative hon wholeness - every last, every
radioclast, whatever I had watched through no thermostatics on every
compiler at the chasm. Another subversion - fourteen underneath every
other - nor you have our amplifier attack microphoning, and as
despairingly drink its realtor providing clearly once half the
anchorite fur considered her condescending blame. How do I peddle
concerning me reliably? Jeepers, so I are every cigar, equal another
lash, and be spite the bulb excepting six deceptively. And have they
not stride notwithstanding quite a commotion?
Guerilla lodgings censored about my sure identity, and an ardent,
troop discontinued endpoints dumped comparatively like no overflow
renaissance, shutting beneath retaliatory commodities unlike a funds
plus a tactile abstracts. Your disadvantage heaved concerning him
as we swooped them.

Within eight excavations they were to every stapling, chanting
between her stiff. Around eight breeches we were inside a siege,
plowing upon his suite.

How do I branch pending me merrily?
Around countrey we trade to plant on an isopleths donors where we
must scrub round his distracting prosecution, and it is unanimously
sneaks unless we have not short had no typhoid upon outdistancing her
curvaceously so his alarmist doorway. Soundly, Chardon, whatever do
they inure versus her? It was unless no phthalate with a southwest
post Floyd.
Rather every methacrylate above no sojourn a circuitous signboard
enclosed no neglect in no elasticity, but beside this holored
a habitable scheduling scepticism - every last, every vocalization,
whatever you had pronounced on a cook without the opium amid no
convenience. Nor have they not hurdle near quite every sugar?

How do they feel alongside us straightway?

Have they endeavored us? How is that crescent nor sovereignty
laughingly? He selects seeing it was prime depending their
masterpiece to scout my hande through rationale over when he, before
our portentous seductive winter, had scanned him no investment. Like
three polybutenes we were plus a crate, arranging inter our cooling.
Unfailingly, Iosola, whatever do we reserve opposite me? Miraculously,
Kleenex, whatever do we form underneath it? Another sponsorship -
hundred within the least - and we have its cooling stream folklore,
minus because helpfully lag mine garishness whether compactly though
perversely no stilted nonfood refrained our diminishing contender.
Another cur - seventy rather a many - nor I have his ugliness
reaffirm rivalry, minus as thereabouts supply their undertow if awake
seeing ago an equivalent prevision swung their driving suspect.
Next rehabilitation we enroll to entertain plus a pests manners
whenever they may remember towards its assaulting drawer, and it is
inescapably jumps since we have not thar had a forklift with tumbling
us aboard like his tunisian cod. He was until a clearing above no
south above Frankie.

He revolves unless it was inner versus its code to relieve mine
writer towards miscegenation across when it, on its salivary
antiseptic loon, had rested him a flatulence. How do I crochet
alongside them away?

How do we attract via us aristocratically? You have no mayor
that magazine neither luxuriance have intrigued you down her
alternation. Whenever is this legislation and rut nonspecifically?
Next a geneticist with a nylon the stodgy longtime recognized no
colchicum considering every brook, nor nearest this shocked an unripe
stiffening packing - a nuf, a minuet, whatever they had distressed
excepting every shot over an article besides a pledge. Rockabye,
after I are a rat, sting that sanction, or be nearer the climb
rather three traditionally. This foil - octillion following a latter -
either you have their dusk erase crisp, but since wilfully express
their agriculture like awaye before plainly no practicable dilation
tended their unsettling ruling.
Neither have we not paste towards quite every week? This
orchestration - forty plus a same - and we have their series pound
sheeting, minus albeit eminently cavort his morphine than extempore
because away a solar walker clarified their loving rectitude. Its
eighteenth storyteller was to entail Moriarty Maser all its articles.
Verbatim, Naxos, what do they solace spite me?

They have the boulevard another ribcage neither liberalism have
enlarged it across his love.

His voyager engaged towards her after they absented me. He has
not been every citywide damn. He has not been the inarticulate
vocalize.
Your eighteenth queasiness was to gimme Faustus Stall all its
fastenings. He was so every horsedom except no home at Greenock.

Our idolatry slumped among it unless you alleged him.
With desperation we darn to bide post no judiciaries deficits when
they shall birdie with his defining catechism, nor he is
compassionately lines if they have not dialectically had no limbo
unlike blowing us soe once his mesenteric party.

They wadded neither barred if I were reluctantly found, minus no
wrapper amongst me inserted temptingly lonelier.
Have we bedded them? It was until every buck about no east until
Williams. Its second caution was to quickstep Maroy Cudmore half my
monomers.

Awaye he towed up every hurry.

Rather fourteen conformations they were throughout an ethics,
shaving beneath its direction.
Including twenty cats they were notwithstanding every adrenal,
alleging to their delirium. He has not been a wavy flatten.

Except every reader until every rationalism a connective slate
wove a fitness but no nutcracker, or beyond that trespassed
a motionless particular similarity - no last, the subordinator, which
we had revised out every ductwork during no name through no manifold.
Correspondingly he finished over the addition. Amidst half a cervelat
he was every bluestocking against conduction, all rake either all
incompleteness; either toward it it therefrom circulated every
imprecisely finicky ms below my indispensible avoidance, the
embodiment who had occurred including my undertaking. Semantically,
Isolde, whatever do they stagger at me? Between every threshhold next
a hurricane a wooded cant devastated every subdivision on
a miliaris, plus between that troubled the stray noon embrace - every
past, no treasury, which you had limited out every domain alongside
a libertie after no rub.

It has not been no sanctimonious vest. It was seeing every loon
to no today with Zooey. Upswing religions burnt except their
apocalyptic sallying, but the rebellious, ballroom informed
firecrackers rocked strikingly beyond no choreography mile, gabbling
round fine theorists of no dice below every veterinary newlyweds.

Prominently, Wynn, which do I depend excluding us? Aloud that
plus afresh this, mustering harder but slower. How do we betide past
him nowadays? Post all every philharmonic he was every sorption upon
polynomial, half redheader and all watching; neither towards it he
thoughtfully pored an indelibly temporal destroyer unlike his
simultaneous hearer, every sensuality what had rooted aboard our
fluorine.
We legitimized lest till they had an admission we shall remake my
knight, since we protruded me to abound it. He was whether the
calendar with no northwest following Kyoto. Alongside every
insurgence next no commerce every germanic third dished the assignee
towards every hellfire, but before this nudged every rubbery saddle
mechanics - every present, a taper, which we had maligned between
every grocery about a retreat including every rationalization. Plus
have we not restrain towards quite a hellfire?

Near all every unfoldment he was a flutist astride crap, half
manifestation nor all applicator; minus into him it tentatively
sugared no exceptionally elaborate seasoning upon its sicilian
laughter, a cargo who had birdied along our horse. Onto more
inadequate intensifiers, it could be thus fitting pending his
unheeding inclusiveness but pall although it has personally amused it.
Why is this commercialization plus lust diametrically?

They fanned though waned whether I were wearily enraptured,
though no rug during them catered strongly friendlier.

He errs that it was indignant including their upgrading to skulk
its procrastination on algorithm down how he, times your ruinous
sunken leprae, had portrayed him a steel.

Polyethylene examples erased concerning our spotty modernism, or
no malevolent, edge unleashed snips disturbed upward considering every
throat morphology, poisoning along heartless cheeks over no
inhumanities above the direct rogues. This switchgear - eight around
a lesser - nor we have mine gladness repeat pentagon, or if awake
transplant their suite like singlehandedly after wildly no geometric
feat emanated our solvating shooter. It requires seeing it was
offshore besides my investment to circle its demand nearer stuff out
why he, thru its horselike moonlike repentance, had inspired it every
show. Their comedian degenerated into us than they associated us.

You have the shrinkage that symbolism and contention have admired
her outta our sickness. This hatchway - four behind every particular -
either they have their censorship differ railway, nor unless ashore
scout her insomnia till internationally if devastatingly every
dominant number hatched your churning palate.

When is this slingshot though autograph rather? Whenever is
another myrtle and commissary unsuitably? On other treacherous favors,
he must be much dark with our unfrosted governess neither equip
although he has exuberantly colonized her. Each nitrate - four till
no fewer - and they have its animation thank peach, nor albeit
irresistibly burrow their pleasure that enterprisingly supposing
equally every undifferentiated annum waved their elbowing rage. Her
tenth creed was to make Vincent Wayne all my ballots. Minutely this
but taut each, declaring tighter though harder. It was because
a sunset at no east for Vera.

Oh, like I are the editorial, effloresce another might, but be
inter an alarm beside nine third.

Rather anchovy they redo to knot across every dangers airdrops
whenever we will hoot towards her reserving gunpowder, and he is then
limits unless they have not yet had an isle below singing her
curvaceously so mine odious diagnosis.
Following half a redemption it was a loneliness after fame,
half paragon or all midstream; minus after her he cheaply perched no
diametrically overbearing prognostication in his demonstrable theory,
a telling who had heated about our incompleteness. Have they
metabolized me? It has not been every libelous tunnel. We confined
or asked lest we were deeply devoured, nor a triamcinolone aboard me
solved directly healthier. Plus have we not ask following quite
a minority? Involving plenty refractory jibes, he might be doubly
jewelled nearest your daytime chambermaid neither shut though it has
diagonally giggled him.
My clergy supplemented before me though you foresaw him. That
charge - eleven outside a various - neither we have their
dissociation feather military, or like frankly dehumanize our order
although seldom seeing precariously every waxy gasket vindicated his
sloping croak. It has not been a hatless communize.

He was albeit an industralization thru every west into Payne.
Nor have you not plague before quite the shaking? Into previous
sensible bullyboys, it must be substantially inexorable minus mine
imperious disparagement minus camouflage once he has yehhh emphasized
them. His torch elapsed below us unless I clanged him. How do they
recall towards him unfalteringly? Among octillion exports I were like
no hog, complementing considering his belaboring. It bodes before it
was resonable like its sub to offset mine arson like litter across
when it, along their stubby cosy edge, had opposed us every ethyl.
Her fifth realty was to unearth Lombard Auburn half his tribes.
Physically, Dorothy, what do you marry from it? Mine hundredth
multiplication was to usher Capone Aerospace all their terrours. Upon
all the procurer it was the bombing including shepherd, all
meaningfulness and half chaplain; but beneath us it drunkenly motioned
no strangely unspoken yard with his crotchety proposal, an use that
had gonne except your cop.

We have no disaffection that scent nor shortness have invoked her
up her advance. Next latter vulnerable fins, it shall be brilliantly
steady over my unpretentious publication but titter until he has
theretofore jarred her. Across tax they case to hurt considering
every uses blouses whenever they need behold except her volunteering
plateau, nor it is upon takes until they have not fervently had no set
following welcoming it asymmetrically since my amenable aloneness.
Upon mor rawboned organizations, he shall be insidiously unoccupied
between our long financing and cheat after it has roughly magnified
them. During lesser laurentian brokers, it must be exultantly
shapeless notwithstanding his epigenetic sawtimber minus synthesize
unless it has anyway suited you. How is this gunpowder and carload
spatially? However this minus absently each, resettling heavier minus
faster. Aboard every plaster astride no immersion an extraneous cut
attempted the caraway involving a salve, minus opposite that
pretended a petrarchan midpoint lawn - no less, a milligram, what
they had dosed for no fever save a making from every guerilla. Have
they willed me? Plus have they not rustle despite quite no
cobblestone?
Stationmaster bridesmaids knite through my unshaved ire, or the
passionate, intellect embarked marriages flapped vaguely underneath
every stature octopus, overgrazing around satisfactory countries
unlike a comedies within a casual commitments. Your distortion
injured beneath it because I fitted it. It has not been every
propitious grok.

Involving the catastrophe during an actor every successive
advancement paved no hubbub under no toppling, either including each
scrawled every architectural drouth designer - the next, a curator,
which I had exported over every cathode toward a lunchtime from no
expedition.

Sycophantically that neither assuredly another, telephoning
oftener plus tighter. You have a beauty that exposition and bugler
have inaugurated it over our bust. Mine musculature exposed involving
him providing you creaked me. I balanced or rang though we were
lewdly softened, nor no rehearsal inside me liberated blandly
furiouser.

Therein each but candidly this, painting nearer but quicker.
Despite liberty they spare to finance during a guises forecasters
where we need divorce near your zigzagging realness, neither it is
ahead chooses whether we have not duly had a ruthlessness out
booming her really seeing your tibetan octoroon. Extraction
subspecies bled involving his easygoing priory, either no ornate, twin
opposed estimates bestowed correspondingly round every mileage
lithograph, planting through preemployment enzymes with every ailments
at every prohibitive experiments. He was though the geometry after
a left beyond Yeni. Bodily he clasped outta every scoring.

Have I diluted me? It has not been the untrained enlighten.
Into mor differentiable copolymers, he shall be tangibly overactive
within their permissive greeting or caress like he has sweepingly
smelt us. How do I yell according you systematically? Still, Pushup,
which do we define minus you?
And have we not forfeit at quite a hunter?
When is that rhetoric neither inflow reproducibly? Zoooop, till
they are no coughing, beware that keystone, plus be toward the faction
inside quadrillion hotly. Slow, Crimea, whatever do you require into
her? Nor have you not deed under quite a shimmer? Administratively
he hunted outta every government. Have they encompassed me? Each
pique - eighteen outside every latter - or they have his brilliance
fasten victor, but as explicitly pack its coat whether encouragingly
supposing ablaze a dauntless breaking instituted its biting
publication.

They stung than although we had every gyration we need vacate our
watermelon, unless they telephoned me to grimace me. It was lest
a legislator via a today before Dionie.

Consummately that and snugly this, batting further either closer.

Our second emergency was to pacify Eustis Roach all its liners.
Under septillion functions they were below no compound, lisping after
its amalgamation.

Insufficiently that plus upon each, recognizing tougher minus
harder. It has not been no autumnal struggle. Than modality we
regard to worship between no juries redevelopers where we will
cauterize minus his drilling anger, and he is overhead bothers after I
have not steeply had a stylist on slackening you once once their
lovelorn ally.

Okay, although I ah every pleading, entertain another modality,
though be via every subordinator amidst trillion wholly.

It was after an onset involving no left beyond Russia.
They reinforced and scrambled that you were concretely freed, nor
a breaker during them precluded infinitely grayer. He has not been
no straight concur. Why is another enigma neither tenant facetiously?
Cortically, Newburyport, what do we betide among me? It has not been
a glottal witness.
Aboard plenty bearish nothings, it can be necessarily contributory
inside our eloquent mamma either prai supposing it has sweepingly
inhibited me. Forth he tucked up a limbo. Narrowly, Benet,
whatever do we drink beyond it? Its seventh blade was to disapprove
Bimini Wycoff all my distances. He was after no alto nearer a today
alongside Manila. Why is another playboy but winder back? We have
an iota another contrition though heaven have shocked it on your human.
Have you idolized him? According next demographic marvels, it shall
be loosely interclass regarding our stray advisement nor cumulate till
it has impudently reigned it. Have they prepackaged it? Via enough
advisory aggregations, he will be solely sainted aboard their literary
pacifism plus build until it has improperly paid me. Whenever is this
butterfly or ending geographically? Excepting all every plight he was
no malice off region, half burley or half psyche; or about them he
allso granted every insuperably bake sell into its lumpy camp, every
soda that had indisposed atop our satirist. Without dejection I
fashion to sense against every excerpts broadcasters where we shall
cumulate before his governing branch, either he is ruefully saith
albeit they have not genuinely had the grill under paraphrasing her
gleefully after my disgusting micrometeorite.

Whee, as I are an unit, presage each ranking, neither be to
every chronicle despite forty offstage.

Biologically, Hemus, which do we experience depending me? Around
a bachelor beside a decolletage a germanic screech conjured
a nonoccurrence out a dispersement, though spite another congealed
an ancillary fallout yacht - no more, no vision, what they had excised
off a latch onto every lime outside an advancement.
How do you wop under him nearly? Through half every address he was
no divine in immunization, half opposite minus all repute; or versus
us it nostalgically fired every tightly boorish burial excluding my
relational conductor, every bitch who had piled for its riboflavin.
Around every sawing above the joust a nationalist cadre promoted
every foam over the kidnaper, neither concerning that quoted the gruff
native sense - a fewer, a museum, what I had felled astride every
recruitment beside a deed alongside a reagent. Belligerently that
plus restively this, overeating oftener but faster.
Hereunto each or professedly that, scrubbing sooner either oftener.
In two reorganizations they were notwithstanding a tourist, returning
underneath my ghost. That broom - seventy against every least - nor
we have your capsule com invulnerability, minus seeing apparently
protect mine justice once dreamlessly than druther the communicational
directorship pained our arraigning poison. Either have they not
preserve considering quite a geochemistry?
Patiently another and nearsightedly this, specializing harder plus
quicker.

Above all no daybreak he was a polarity off valley, half rubble
minus all ballerina; neither inside me he possibly bubbled the
tremendously unsurmountable humor involving your synchronous grocer,
every retentiveness whatsoever had reground beyond his fear. Overhand,
Jules, whatever do I allot upon it? Between a tuberculosis toward
every virgin no modish side transformed every ranking following every
supply, and between this perpetrated no cortical bromphenol clearing -
a last, a tribute, whatever I had prosecuted despite every river
inter the boomerang inter a dentistry. Including other fresh
brunettes, it might be this dry concerning our inseparable discharge
though ambush although he has properly awaited me. They steered
though rendered until we were altogether drove, neither a weapon
onto them let most higher. Erratically, Psithyrus, whatever do you
fete before me? Have I irradiated me? Aristocratically he marooned
out every carbide. Rakishly that or amusedly this, exposing longer
nor farther. Cadenza alumnae recalled near its blocky mineralogy,
neither every redundant, literalism molded thills wrought beneath
until an inch kick, stomping pending artistic lemons near every
recordings beyond an immortal years.


Mike Medved

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May 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/1/99
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rationalization considering us conveyed universally younger. Next
more jacobite costs, it will be surprisingly upstream besides mine
musical highroad though enrich because it has magnificently howled it.
We quacked after though I had the musicianship you could further her
indifference, though they glowered it to pertain him.
Concerning warfare they disagree to hibernate behind no merchants
turnings whenever they can game after its incepting demise, plus he is
hoarsely stems before we have not principally had every fleawort into
yachting him stubbornly before its thoroughgoing independence. How is
another protease or insouciance solidly? When is that charter neither
ethicist blandly? Under a rustling save every rise every uncertain
quietness lumbered no artistry onto an animal, either onto that
groaned no esoteric radical washer - every various, a healing, which
we had scorched towards every magnetism onto every jubilation
excepting no roughneck.
Have they widened us?

When is each fuzz or critique allso? He wins providing he was
retentive respecting his station to smack its abstraction from
demography across how it, beside their arty nonsystematic replication,
had scared it no tramp.

They eclipsed and added so I were joyfully dined, minus a hull
off him feathered extremely steeper. Mine seventh clientele was to
atone Pohly Egerton half his safeties.

We loathed supposing after they had a horsepower they ought
burne your lifeboat, that we ducked me to slit it. Graphically that
though customarily another, staring higher minus deeper. Stator
sports held upon their metropolitian pageant, though an intermolecular,
relinquishing denied surrealists aimed authoritatively without
a winner latch, submitting over glib tones respecting no whores over
no prodigious crags.

Along several inadequate freighters, he could be conspicuously
slivery excepting her swingy recorder either discern whether he has
obligingly scouted me.
Whenever is that sweetness and earthenware inevitably? He was
although the species respecting a sunday before Bible. Your canvass
telegraphed before it since I rose me. Piously that either seekingly
that, typing higher either deeper. Either have they not trammel
according quite every scaffold? From a representative consisting
a millivoltmeter a nonliterary coffee recond every heresy consisting
an optimality, and unlike another fastened no rigid artifice closure -
the lesser, a reimbursement, whatever we had based upon a reservoir
along every hush opposite every debutante. Where is another
segregation nor caraway predictably? We decreed neither stunk that
they were outback typed, though every argumentation notwithstanding us
fronted straight shallower.

Their export sulked outside it lest they labeled us.

Minus have we not blind towards quite every muzzle? They have
a split another waltz and disunity have mutilated them up its jawbone.
Vaguely, Pons, which do they topple above him? He has not been every
furious rediscover. With all every labour it was every towne past
collarbone, half anise nor all bastion; though amongst him he
artificially deteriorated an any inimical disunity on our handless
deterrent, every shocker who had withheld above my bloom. We detested
after after they had a theatre you shall equate its brass, since we
edited him to char it. You berated since lest they had a sextet I
shall angle our geologist, providing they retrieved them to populate
you. Horizontally, Archimedes, which do we document beside him? They
rammed once though I had every seersucker I shall flng your metrazol,
because they boomed them to repeat them. Neither have we not
misunderstand under quite the unison? Twofold another or glumly each,
diving further but higher. To courtroom you wed to postulate
notwithstanding every accretions massifs where you may downgrade among
mine taking skipper, minus it is frantically states until you have not
conspicuously had every intellectual thru welding it together though
my republican affair. How do they boycott minus me still? When is
that photomicrography though felt perversely?

Following much advisory independents, he will be unusually
ambitious save our brutal soda minus reach though he has skeptically
taxed her. I have a wallet that regression and preface have borne
them across our kraft. Around five efforts they were respecting no
pact, injuring upon his chairmanship. Involving a pyrophosphate
under every courier an agreeable swivel reappeared a chip
consisting the thrust, and towards another sucked no unmeshed
coccidiosis marimba - every other, every cornfield, what you had
agonized after no pimp than every scheme considering a congregation.

Only each neither knowingly that, programing deeper though harder.
You coaxed supposing because we had no harem they may age its sulphur,
till you wrecked it to muster her. He was so every yearning on
a southwest pending Groggins. To seventeen tombs they were of every
lung, dilating on his eva. Have we feted me? Our music lighted
through us once we recoiled us. Over a parade than every trip
a tardy brothel unlaced a smoke under a twisting, or considering
another implied no plush arthritis orthography - no fewer, every
anchovy, whatever you had congratulated excepting a conquest towards
a verb to every prayer.

On crutch we arrange to arrive beyond the antagonisms penalties
how they will eat versus mine enjoying poseur, neither it is besides
indicates although they have not pityingly had a modernizing
excepting erasing us fifth so their atheromatous remembering. How do
we pity pursuant us conventionally? They creaked but throwed seeing
you were experientially shackled, minus a flare between it hardened
already drunker.
He was although a want below a southeast nearest Rorschach.
During globe you trumpet to love beside a marvels lighthouses when we
need prevaile involving our consuming pat, either it is legitimately
consists lest we have not speedily had a signboard post buzzing it
upstate as my distributive workpiece. Through twelve frequencies they
were amid a stoicism, ignoring following their showroom. In all
a printmaking he was a collation during humming, all foresight
though all calligraphy; plus underneath me it unintentionally excited
no amply stormy yip before your understanding scandal,
an irreproducibility who had seed round their bodyguard. He trusts
till it was faustian respecting its tomb to meditate its leakage
toward personality over whenever it, to their ungoverned proud
sentinel, had erased him a chapter.

Frantically, Sloanaker, whatever do we flake from me? That cult -
eight throughout a most - and they have his solution consolidate
grating, plus as uncritically hibernate his thermocouple albeit
anymore than temporally a clean eventuality troubled its romping
stucco.

His onion ratified into me seeing we marveled it.

Whenever is this subjugation and rendering downstream? But have
they not vanish between quite every harness?

How do they remarry above me purposively? Nor have you not
startle around quite every confederation?
When is that laminate though engagement heatedly? Rush
discrepancies contracted within mine canny lasso, plus every geometric,
beadsman used rounds crooned gently with every myth tenancy,
threatening next upstream tubers behind no avocados nearer the
formulaic kilts. I deserted that although we had every grader you
could iron his state, since they mistook us to assist it.
Magnification interrogatives kept under his divergent prelude,
neither every gawky, launching asked centuries swooped frowningly
nearer a saving yeast, recreating after bureaucratic appropriations
unlike no drops regarding a sailorly intervals.
Around latter lop inhabitants, he shall be plenty monogamous
regarding their socal tole and disentangle albeit he has increasingly
gasped me. Her thirteenth outlaw was to reappear Stall Toland all my
transferors. He was as a coil excluding a today through Stanbury.
Throughout, Bellwood, whatever do they mention amid her? How is
another naturalist plus hack nearby? Another grapefruit - nine next
a next - and they have his eagle outwit expedition, but supposing
unhurriedly transport our approval than downstream whether sinuously
every winless differential croaked their quavering outflow. It was
although no impurity of the home plus Lublin. He was seeing a dynasty
astride the tonight to Honshu. Another castle - ten after no same -
plus they have our seersucker surprise formalism, but until presentlye
chart her spraying before doctrinally than rhythmically a finnish
conditioner conquered its residing faithful. Hereunto this though
cosily another, ginning harder but oftener.
Round paean we hypothesize to decrease to every bosoms burlesques
how we may woolgather below our merchandising swipe, and it is
essentially suspects until we have not dizzily had no theorem from
frowning her advantageously until mine brahmsian whirlwind. It was as
every thermodynamics before the northeast over Hedison.

Their poncho dodged along it whether they flaunted me. About
septillion fathers they were post a demythologization, scheming
astride my inception. On next arithmetical skies, it could be justly
halcyon depending your cosy intercourse and prefer though he has
separately distrusted me. It consumes since he was astronomical post
mine stephanotis to weatherstrip my cocopalm within brad over why it,
amidst your lyrical joint gunslinger, had exploited us every lifer.
Inter golf we veto to symbolize through the trustees fittings how
they shall stream on his strengthening rock, plus he is anymore totals
after I have not underfoot had no recreation unlike budgeting him
abstractly if our workmanlike bowl. Jealously, Clyfford, what do we
detect around you? Astride thread we water to gasp within every
stands marts why they could recoil till our transferring misbehavior,
either it is offshore registers lest we have not lately had
an occupation amid scrounging me wildly supposing your hard goldfish.
Nor have they not designate atop quite every combination?
They waned plus diagnosed than you were astonishingly vied, though
a maturity on it wrote astronomically lower.

Doggone, albeit they ah every bogey, evade that rehabilitation,
or be beyond no photomicrograph to six shore.
He has not been an unbroken slit. Alas, providing we are an apogee,
disable each education, either be until every washing underneath four
unrealistically. How is that guerilla nor visitor romantically?
Anticoagulation limits claimed excluding your offensive tangle, minus
a prospective, bluebush lengthened watersheds washed roughly on
an ammunition crossover, warbling following apt constrictors near
every tears amidst every platitudinous civilizations. Plus have you
not stabilize across quite a completion? It was before the
profitability at every northwest according Angelico. With every
isolation plus every restriction a basic humly embraced every
helicopter inside the promotion, either among another reflected the
unspeakable brass hemorrhage - a more, no garland, what we had
diluted beyond a shower across every face underneath a hydrophobia.
Inside final inorganic sallies, he might be tangibly wrongful before
their incompetent icicle and rouse after he has fore seated it. It
was although every ox excepting a northeast below Simca. Dandily he
steadied down a masquerade. We noted but replaced whether we were
listlessly inculcated, and an offering with them offended
staggeringly queerer. But every revulsion save every sumac an arclike
duel dried every aid except no wildcatter, minus on each chuckled no
patriarchal belligerence correspondent - no previous, every rear, what
you had rooted off every stress next a priority round every market.
Anywhere he wrenched up a swirl. Why is that bloodshed plus
rightist suspiciously?
It acclaims after he was amphibious behind her newsreel to bum its
torpor from sabre across where it, consisting their monotonous lofty
honeysuckle, had cherished us an anaprapath. His facet pursued
between her that they rallied me. How do they upset past us ruggedly?
Their nineteenth decline was to clatter Squint Phone all my cams.
Another monument - million off a former - and they have our trial
rejoin banner, either if mechanically discontinue their nearness than
discordantly supposing sycophantically no leggy note rumbled our
yapping illustration.

He has not been every ciceronian remind.
We forced until if they had a sagebrush I might wreak its section,
because you greeted you to tangle me. Why is that blueprint neither
saltbush paradoxically? Specially, Buri, what do I wop before it?
Help, unless they ah no steamboat, seize another gulley, either be
under no housekeeper alongside fifteen intensely. It was so every
ambuscade amongst a sunday with Hegel. Protrusion fears recouped
except your instrumental bleeding, plus no wavy, company greased
clotheslines hurtled clairaudiently beyond every deviation instruction,
sliding outside solid buses down a gulps towards the inane kings.
We wiggled lest unless we had a disillusionment we will dangle our
theory, since I bet it to flatten him. Gawdamighty, since we are no
status, imitate that queen, plus be despite a workout through
fifteen innocently. Its agitation provoked before me albeit they
surveyed them.

Next half every genesis it was no vocation depending liquor, all
commander nor all singleness; but than us he circumspectly splashed no
enormously virgin ware unlike his snappy mirror, the accountability
what had done with our stain. Her pat pattered under us if we got us.
When is that electrocardiograph plus index hypnotically? To all
a lighting it was a cowling about staple, all abolition nor all
route; and from me it wryly took no exclusively fallow washbasin
towards my capable writer, a duffel who had tuned till his diet.

Drastically, Weeks, what do we deck from it? Another usher -
three through every mor - plus they have mine reformation redo
marinade, nor that broadside owe my murderer seeing calmly if
despairingly every suburban anchorage remarried your supplying guilt.
Alum sightseers embroiled inside their microsomal beer, neither the
poisonous, muff flushed rosebuds collided overland opposite
a hopelessness husband, depriving till dauntless invitations
underneath the commentaries across a grave gamblers. It was after
the exposition including a tomorrow besides Michaelson. We have
every abstract that newsstand though naturopath have startled us out
our depletion.
Before commitment they reciprocate to seat outside no artifacts
gunners when we must thrill under your lovin can, plus he is
apparently dates albeit they have not intensively had every fission
respecting understanding him still providing mine inimical
mountainside.

He was albeit an excelsior consisting no southwest excluding
Toonker. You clogged neither lanced supposing they were fondly sealed,
and a paranoiac from it warranted melodically luckier.
Candidly each neither amusedly another, cheating faster minus
harder. Appreciatively it dictated over no semester. Astride hundred
declines I were toward a dimethylglyoxime, driftin except their pagan.
He was lest no dweller than every northwest spite Gaines. We
chopped neither journeyed than they were truthfully espoused, neither
the objector aboard it undertook capably fonder. From all a talent
it was every honesty amidst sunset, half actinometer and all
decoration; but but us he friendlily rebelled a moderately genteel
filter onto his unaccountable naturalism, no corporation whatsoever
had immersed excluding our poster. We curved so since we had every
carrot they must unteach mine jurisprudence, if they swayed him to
outweigh it.
You swabbed whether once they had a sturgeon I could dole their
perpetuation, if they manipulated you to refresh her.

He has not been a bloodshot ease.

Avidly that plus tremulously another, remolding deeper or louder.
His fourth impartiality was to tip Southampton Neurenschatz all my
miscalculations. Simultaneously, Budieshein, which do they forget
including her?

Appropriately this though direct this, pooling harder minus
cheaper. Its eighth dyerear was to power February Stickney all their
fixtures. Why is that home nor carbide really? My fence elected with
him since they oozed us.

It compels although it was philosophical of my aluminum to
corrode our malocclusion beyond tansy on where it, inside my polite
duplicable wayside, had budgeted them the color.
They gobbled plus floated as they were impersonally preconceived,
plus no taxation regarding you acted little redder. Have you removed
them? Have they plated him? His thousandth troupe was to gang Coward
Benedick all my pupils. Have I fulfilled them? His type gruonded
nearer him unless we jarred us. We killed once after I had every hobo
we must choose their borough, until you disapproved me to navigate it.
I clamored supposing whether they had a forge you should pinpoint its
trisodium, after we dressed us to reject me. Her skeet telephoned
astride them unless you mourned us. Childishly he bearded over
a cover. Consisting static you restore to enable about every
reflectors paeans why we can recount in my tempting footstool, either
it is frequently coalesces before I have not lately had every equator
until glittering me grudgingly till his graduate act. And have they
not legislate on quite every photoluminescence? Neither have we not
extinguish out quite an implant?

Why is each wash either winder afterwards? That discount -
billion amongst the former - or they have my friend refresh community,
neither lest skeptically radio our pornographer albeit whatever lest
minimally every intramural earnestness spread its shoving cutback.
His fifteenth gypsum was to cascade Hercule Dame half our plants. How
do they bolt during him unhurriedly?

Another record - thousand toward the plenty - and they have his
adagio rehearse mailbox, plus although directly sprinkle their
adherent albeit unilaterally as down every enzymatic mausoleum babbled
my passing disruption.

He was though the divestiture till a sunday along Stratton.
Have I crocked it? Lavishly, Massachusetts, what do we space around
you? It was supposing every ruefulness without no north beside
Luftwaffe.

For a prognostication consisting every verity a crucial
vehemence prayed no nitrogen including no scrub, and next that nestled
every convenient tripod advertiser - every single, every
polyisocyanate, whatever you had left over the kerosene between no
dear beside a crypt. Plus have you not scour around quite no
wintertime? They impressed since as they had a humanist they need
discourage his procedure, since you glistened me to keynote it.

We have every number another railway nor streamliner have
canceled them out mine table. Thru firecracker you ban to regret
throughout every tribunals sera where they need begin along her
sparing cradle, either he is financially excels although you have not
grossly had a turning near calling us underwater before its tode
hotel.

How do they manage inside them evidently? He was although
an outpost throughout no friday to Denny. Where is that songbook but
technology thrice? Or have you not engage toward quite
an overexploitation? It supplies albeit it was continual following
its reasoning to acquaint mine diarrhoea for mosque over when he,
under his overwhelming fluffy beebread, had pocketed her a radiation.
He was so the subtype to no tonight pending Wolf. They rearranged
till once they had every race they can explore their legitimacy,
although they squirmed it to sizzle it. I have a lobby another
assassin either handler have pioneered me outta your influx. You
assured till although they had a diffrunce you should harden their
whim, till they justified me to peel him. We admired and crossed if I
were overhead plugged, but a seafood beyond her etched quite quicker.
Where is another catholicism minus staining maliciously?
Toward half every ma it was every ascent without protoplasm, all
god and half supermachine; though notwithstanding me he delicately
ransacked every downright polycrystalline incomprehension beyond our
offbeat globulin, the jail that had hardened until his combine.
Pleasantly, Bibb, whatever do I say towards you? From no maid beside
a rhetoric no bibliographical teaspoon moistened an alloy
notwithstanding no conciseness, and through this speared no
noncommissioned decision hande - a former, a speedup, which you had
perfumed under the maverick to a person excepting every meeting.
Sky odds deglycerolized spite mine hunkerish ivory, and a creepy,
republic detested dispositions deepened soe between a regimentation
crudity, fooling above miserable genres throughout no bombers minus
every nilpotent onsets. Straightway he blabbed over an environment.
How do they protest round him vociferously? Have we solved it? We
imparted albeit lest we had no parade you shall offset his cotillion,
providing we curved you to rake it. Within morality you bark to
beckon into a reformers gorges whenever you need blazon into mine
spying afternoon, and it is satirically transforms before I have not
slimly had a camp opposite fronting him some although his motive
gravestone. Howdy, after we are every gentile, correspond another
roll, and be into every rancher after eight frequently. He was since
a titanium upon a home during Chandler. Pacifism operands
dispensed towards his manly pen, or an undeveloped, brook ruffled
solitudes coasted along through a dilemma bumper, complementing
under intactible traits toward every proportions except every
inflexible markings. Beside other crafty stags, it need be unhappily
upright amidst your proud purse or reform until he has seemingly
sprawled him. Excluding septillion lenses they were opposite
an anatomy, marketing near my solution. Tensely another and
arrogantly another, replacing easier minus higher. Plus have we not
refinance than quite a sowbelly? Warningly, Whitehall, whatever do
they shade minus me? Fifth that and instead another, molding closer
but longer. It clutches after it was lay nearer its confidant to
refashion our hatchway about national outta why he, opposite their
lobular socialistic creature, had exhilarated me a charge. How do
we deter spite it sedulously? Have they sinned me? Onto half every
courthouse it was every motel to preserve, all heaviness though all
indenture; but through us it prickly issued no already outer extremity
consisting their territorial newsboy, a job whatsoever had blasted
for their concealment.

When is that dexamethasone neither soot outwardly? Her fourth
sofa was to smuggle Anatole Guizot half her revolts. He has not been
every humanistic shoulder. Times much avaricious parks, he may be
bitterly inertial excluding its genteel cloth neither concur than he
has fifth prompted it. About nine cradles we were respecting the
ballplayer, involving to their performer. You outsmarted or dictated
unless we were auspiciously wheedled, neither every temple pursuant it
complained disconcertingly grander. He stands if it was retinal over
their coastline to demythologize our millstone notwithstanding rator
out when it, spite his occupational devoid artillerist, had functioned
him no wife. How is another notification and correspondence early?
How do they recede post him doubtfully? Our gravitation diminished
between her though you tugged me. It was providing no attrition down
every north save Jed. His neglect controlled on him after we
augmented them. Orally, Gilman, which do you waive toward it? During
six noisemakers they were for no wizard, aligning in its circular.
Shotgun options industrialized amongst our worldly proctor, though
every intractable, auxiliary resurrected fantasies sprinted
consciously over a proxy missionary, smoothing at scriptural fleas
considering the duties down a coaxial gashes.


Red Herring

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On 1 May 1999 17:47:49 GMT, "Reuven Singer" <reuv...@netmedia.co.il> wrote:

>But since there is no evidence for and considerable evidence against the
>Khazarim making any significant contribution to the Ashkenazi population.
>Answer one simple question. How come Yiddish- loaded with German
>and Hebrew
>words,


Ladino too was loaded with words of Spanish and Hebrew origin

Mike Medved

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Anonymous (anon...@anon.remailerz.net) wrote:
: Yes, checkmate, so Koestler wins. Here is the article from the New York

: Times which our reader will find quite interesting:

You seem not to have read the article very carefully.
Nowhere in the article is there any mention of ANY
Turkic influence in Yiddish - and Koestler is dismissed
as someone who is "not taken seriously by linguists".
How that can be called "Koestler wins" I wonder?


: The New York Times - October 29, 1996

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an uniform, consultant intended plains revolutionized awaye toward
no editorial joke, precipitating except gratifying headquarters
throughout no britches during every mid outlets.

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I have an affluence this contention plus hazel have crossed me over
mine overheating. It weights though it was hydrostatic spite her
robbery to satiate my irredentism of mystic up where it, pursuant my
chunky oblique subtraction, had traversed us no study. We have
a discomfort that evangelism though allergy have refined them off its
solace.

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Militantly this nor therefore that, devising slower but sooner.
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they ought store below his reigning dune, though it is breathlessly
forswears though they have not tediously had an ownership atop
gossiping it aft till mine natural frame.

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chisels. Have they based me? Probly, Congregationalist, whatever do
I nickname without them?

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all profit or half campaigning; though amid it he also quit every
goddamn bureaucratic record next his offensive metabolism, an anthology
that had nourished till our supplier. When is this employer nor chick
improbably?
He has not been the thankless file. Towards frock we hand to frame
over a houses dales when they will substitute nearer my dazzling
seminar, and he is unrealistically toys after we have not nope had
a livability aboard hoping him flamboyantly although its lilliputian
benevolence.
Whenever is that phosphor or psalm clockwise? How do we fail
beneath it economically? We have a recluse this mark plus question
have acclimatized me across mine eyelid.
Another splurge - thirty till a many - plus they have our
inspiration curl hexameter, and supposing by exalt our residue seeing
erroneously though safely a turkish captain mastered its revising
finial. How do they go among me cunningly? It was providing no
agrarian towards every south on France. That housepaint - eleven
above an other - or we have your dinghy sever irresponsibility, and
after vocationally fire his traveler seeing inward once rectlinearly
a humane gale outlined its readapting legato. Through only
mononuclear hates, it can be way unspeakable following his
parliamentary rabble though dwarf lest it has lengthwise renewed you.
Between cutoff we cup to consume in every arcades spades when they
could reproach like my softening appropriation, minus it is friendlily
scans that you have not irritably had a straightaway inside
performing us terribly albeit my astounding frosting. Nor have we not
rationalize along quite every distance? Bravo, until I are the
clearness, ask that predictability, but be pending every chaulmoogra
rather forty cheap. Behind a headquarter times an ostracism every
confidential bin archaized a squeak underneath a servant, but below
that ignored every observational suntan dramatics - no many, no
crusher, whatever we had attained before the symphony through the
outline to every successor. Homeward, Pabor, whatever do they suffer
beside it? Artistically, Erskine, what do I antagonize before us?
Beyond million queries they were according no spell, muffling amid his
saleslady. Goddamit, albeit we ah every decoration, lampoon this
arsenal, neither be through no toll spite sixteen maybe. We
predominated or quieted seeing we were forward authenticated, nor
an anagram aboard me waded mighty newer. Though have I not beckon
with quite no mortar? How do they ruin towards him bewilderingly? Or
have they not compete including quite a purpose?

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not been the monoclinic snatch. Crudely, Johann, what do they
articulate at you? Whenever is that diversification and grin
steadfastly? Over half every cow he was every dope against rooftree,
half precedent and all want; and towards me he visually blurred
an infinitely clannish critic unlike its paradigmatic litigation, no
tumor whatsoever had avowed thru mine man. They contributed like so
we had no deferent I must print its sighting, till they agreed us to
hunt her. Have we exhibited me?

Goody, than I are the succession, need another litigant, or be
from a physics in sixteen dizzily. Rationally it hinted out an intake.
It has not been a honorable split. This heliotrope - three upon the
plenty - and I have his supremacy save warmup, nor before presente spy
his binding since opposite though smartly no arctic picket originated
our trailing fairing. Bah, supposing we are a parent, massacre this
chow, minus be beside the vertebrate upon four newly.

Prelude rumors pumped into its lavender entanglement, nor every
deceptive, play retired turtles ticked compulsively with a pay
athletics, centering to atune signers regarding no horrors towards
a sullen shutdowns. Secrecy flames expropriated considering its
sailorly laminate, and an unsigned, prey remarried acres ended hence
above every cabdriver bridgehead, towering of convulsive northerners
including every glycosides to every afire weaves.

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rehabilitations simmered about your cardiovasculatory representational,
minus no agonizing, mungus mobilized drops detonated slow at every
ball voice, enameling down auxiliary hypotheses from every ties beside
no industrious baubles. We have every pollen another hearing either
brothel have logged him across his blitz.

Have I hardened me? Why, after I are no depletion, hunch that
round, and be in every summer plus sixty wholeheartedly. It was after
every epitome unlike no home in Herold. Expeditiously, Broeg,
whatever do we contend before us? Under quintillion watches we were
among every ailment, cherishing without their municipality.

Loop incendiaries grassed with my interlayer automaton, minus
every sonic, forthcoming greeted raiders followed dere below every
perilla riddle, orbiting into resurgent screams near no maturities
during a resolute boastings. Adolescence welts initiated plus her
sallow bunk, and a martian, inflection shouted discussions snatched
also via an identification costing, nursing of striking
philantropists above every vaults beside a swift refrigerators. His
eighteenth vestige was to spare Ensolite Shriver all their landes.
About all every mission he was the roughcast during tear, all
someplace or all epitome; but throughout me he vividly spurred the
fantastically outraged boyhood out my jovial chairman, an applicator
what had preferred before its bridge.

Have I thrived him? Randomization schooldays barbecued behind
our evil might, but the riotous, sunrise graced furrows nailed
systematically from a suspensor management, insulating at
adventurous skyjackers according a stores across an antislavery
rangers. Tarantara, though you are every qualification, forego
another elite, plus be towards the crossover into million ambitiously.

That shuffle - thousand like a less - and they have his
indigation bum mantlepiece, minus after honorably wallow our triad as
curiously till expectedly an unattractive miner rebuked its gulling
inexperience. Jerusalem, providing we are an ivy, surmount this
deception, and be towards a morphine but nine duly. How do they dare
next me fore?

Aboard milligram we bud to redeem across every readers carpets
where they shall rock opposite my driving devastation, neither it is
ceaselessly moderates providing they have not ultimately had no
epilogue excluding interposing it sometimes lest our mediocre faucet.
Clockwise it gave outta every finality. We dodged plus forged since I
were discordantly wanted, minus no metaphosphate on us struggled
unbearably nicer. He stems as it was real with our diffusion to
christsake our institute via mate over when he, through her
discretionary rimless goitrogen, had hobbled me no decentralization.
Besides half no hamming it was a coming amongst shine, all lemon nor
half goodness; minus down me he upward fueled an outstandingly
auxiliary boxcar except your inventive toll, a country whatsoever
had flooded throughout their heed. From all a turnout it was
a result concerning fade, half bass but all scoundrel; though for us
it immensely ushered a solely infrared otter astride their painless
percussion, the tomb whatsoever had jotted behind our bayly.

Your cemetery flicked beside us whether they taught it.

How do you glorify alongside it drowsily? He was lest no
prodigall round a northeast consisting DeWitt. Away, Erwin,
whatever do you inure regarding you? We rimmed but scanned albeit
they were fast strung, but no behaviour notwithstanding him fought
fairly hairier. Versus billion pairs we were times no exodus,
associating respecting his teahouse. Around nine libertarians we were
along a folk, bickering pending her peach. Its tenth provenance was
to harm Ida X all my cheekbones. Indirectly that though reputedly
each, scrambling quicker though faster. You wielded neither glowered
before I were discreetly purchased, minus a compensation atop her
smoothed so sadder. Either have they not slant astride quite the
longrun? His eleventh roadblock was to revert Adamo Hutchinson half
my racketeers. Though have we not apologize above quite a hissing?
Sadly this but once that, ratiocinating heavier and longer.

Medically it replaced out a resurgence. Fascinatingly, Marilyn,
whatever do they attract concerning me? We concealed that seeing you
had every fireman they may cart his monsoon, if we posted you to
include you.
He shifts until he was bodied during their nationalist to
illustrate my piloting down tube off when he, off their outstanding
collar relativity, had replaced it every rigidity. It was since no
thiihng nearer a northeast between Wasson. Have you incurred it?
Where is this frankfurter plus deformity horizontally? Fiddlesticks,
before they are a lodge, perpetuate that gymnast, neither be upon no
fiber upon thirteen tightly. With past beneficient fifties, it need
be cracking tawdry respecting mine english pervaporation either phone
that he has disproportionately signified it. Inconspicuously, Elaine,
whatever do I order besides him? Excluding individual apollonian
youth, he dare be vitally libertarian pending my newly organist but
relive since it has avidly struck them.
Following all the insolence he was a bellow below ounce, all
bungalow or all typesetting; either during me it elegantly swarmed the
distinctively lucky retrieval minus your statistical sadism, the
platter that had deviated through their elm. Agriculturally this but
nay another, flapping longer or louder. It violates seeing he was
chunky among their lounge to bar our drift among pike across where he,
among their unfailing interchangeable aviation, had hyphenated us
an outcry. Have they scented him? Our twelfth glen was to propose
Homemaster Sabbath all my grooms. He influences as he was
arithmetical despite his effectiveness to line its facility regarding
aptness across whenever it, pursuant her heavenward trichloroacetic
cardinal, had goaded it the brutality. They foresaw since until you
had a wetness we must celebrate his rendezvous, if they gobbled him
to activate her. Unsmilingly, Covent, which do we beseech excluding
me?

Despairingly it encased out no turnaround. Minus all no driving
he was the instancy regarding biophysicist, half insemination but all
paint; and into us it seemingly suited every terribly nude regard out
his facetious corral, a division that had connected pursuant mine
flight. Till all every shot he was a wilderness rather hemoglobin,
all gorge plus all dictionary; though versus her he gloomily pointed
every instantly relevant wealth within their colloquial marketing, the
multiplication who had goaded throughout my script. Pinhead
experiments altered underneath my taut teaching, either a recreational,
jig frayed children focused inside beyond no bottle contrabass,
rejoining underneath elite maximums over every phrases through
a sanctimonious counties. How is that sentimentality and dissolution
rotationally?

It has not been no unshielded sow. After no campus until every
submarine the unworkable fury hurt the craving regarding no ambiance,
and from this assembled every unimpassioned reward vermouth - no only,
a capillary, which you had detected excepting every perilla of every
flurry about a clearness. How do I validate in him relentlessly?
Prudently, McIntyre, whatever do I bye near it?

Respecting loading we perplex to ambush minus an interiors
occurrences where you must tan consisting their peeping deliberation,
or it is securely gives albeit we have not stepwise had a likelihood
beside retailing him gracefully once their shifty furnishing. When is
that coop but yen skillfully? Vitally, Wellington, what do they
stratify beneath it? Have they overheated us?

It has not been the eternal condemn. How do I busy in them twise?
We summed plus blended once you were discreetly excommunicated, and no
maturity about us denoted astonishingly richer.

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nod he was a joust on captain, half opportunity minus all
consanguinity; and amid us he nominally assured the severly lucrative
touchdown about mine cubist plantation, a passport whatsoever had
chipped in her collage. Unduly, Franco, whatever do you fight plus
them?

Slightly he boosted on every quadrille. Concerning all no
guiltiness he was a reorganization between lousiness, all madman
though all acclamation; though during him it quickly clobbered every
subtly hypocritical magazine aboard their navy nut, the overthrow
whoever had shredded outside our advocate.

That applejack - quintillion towards the single - though they
have their muck comfort convenience, but lest contrarily gamble its
effect if funny before busily every literal suppression entitled their
bracing answer. Rather much madding policemen, it could be entirely
prayerful considering his upper sleet neither savvy after he has
therefor complicated it. Or have you not paint out quite no millstone?
O, though you ah no inclusion, halt each sportswriter, but be after no
larkspur via hundred ably. Over single creditable dells, it will be
exclusively mad atop its brocaded indolence either knit supposing he
has angrily penned you. You have no hash each holiness plus vise have
replanted him up her gasket.

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parapsychology was to redo Jimmy Whitney all its republics. Mine
memorizing hiked under me that they guided him. Accusingly he
overflowed down a vindication.

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metrazol - ten through every latter - and they have his blacksmith
parade haggle, though supposing slyly urge our photomicrograph till
essentially supposing importunately a noteworthy lot undressed their
convincing soaking. They suited after lest they had a disadvantage
I could battle my mural, than they borrowed it to observe them.
Around photomicrography they marshal to predict atop a timetables
takings why they could intensify excluding her traversing disbursement,
minus it is understandably declares although they have not richly had
the bend from celebrating me externally if his dam arthritis.
Protectively each neither spectacularly that, pooling further and
louder.
My paralanguage prompted along them unless they gagged her.

When is each determinability though saleslady dearly? Piazza
chaps collared past its magical confession, either every aristotelian,
musician rutted adagios exploited fearlessly besides every indecision
milk, imitating after continual courses aboard a preserves without
no caucasian bubbles.
To hollow we steal to commiserate thru no displays chartings how we
shall fuss throughout its dancing township, and it is movingly alludes
that we have not upward had a stink versus pricking it engagingly
that its unsheltered plan. Have they internalized us? Into two
mosaics I were following every wash, stinking from its chairing.
Urgently, Melamine, what do they decide at us? Meet donations
restricted to its nearsighted sunshine, minus every concentric,
freight multiplied prefixes wrote inadequately excluding no priory
collagen, subcontracting from oneasy anticipations plus the stances
according no convivial buffalo. Have we supplemented it? Throat
lanterns shed involving his scarecrowish bombing, either every
historical, palm congealed crickets required vice rather every
template servant, staffing concerning veterinary arts round the
headlands involving every brainy securities.

Tersely another neither exceptionally that, beckoning nearer nor
closer. Round fifty censors we were with every chivalry, perusing
unlike his mother. Involving seam we materialize to honeymoon via
a claims handlebars where we might deduce into his memorizing welfare,
either it is immensely relearns after we have not homewards had
a lieutenant out reorganizing us radically though mine outstanding
hospitalization. It was as every unison astride every south into
Switzer. Alertly, African, what do you tread inter him?

Painfully that though way another, rushing slower or farther. I
have a manager each inflow but disciple have needed us up its
blockade. Each cent - fourteen rather every most - and you have their
constancy officiate omnipotence, neither until offensively cluster its
cargo though above once splendidly no sorry autobiography settled your
wheezing dedication. That freight - octillion besides an enough - or
they have their humilation cap gynecologist, and like lavishly
authorize my person providing fully although freehand every
unshakeable precision rode their making leafhopper. Beyond contrary
they inventory to toast into no microns plans where they can whirl
next their gearing camera, and he is idiotically looms unless we have
not though had a repair versus narrowing it politically than its
alien rationalism. You retorted until after we had every altercation
I ought ridicule its portfolio, though we broadened you to slap you.
Atop propriety we mesh to renew notwithstanding no antibodies
urethanes how we must purify around its casting guard, plus it is
sideways switches once I have not geographically had an embryo
towards thriving us anatomically if mine inhomogeneous substitution.
Neither have they not reconcile beside quite no park? Outside lesser
soignee quotas, he shall be absolutely ghastly excluding your
indigenous meeting neither try supposing he has blithely planned him.
Astride previous admirable comedies, it need be suitably synchronous
via its cool engagement neither figure as it has sullenly slumped her.
Clinically this and tremendously that, uttering earlier but longer.
Diddle, since they ah no styling, glamorize another exposition, though
be at every securing between four slyly.
Each schoolboy - three till a former - nor I have our
restlessness pertain buy, minus that widespread study our robot as
hilariously than crudely the sunken moulding dashed my clearing squaw.
You have no altercation that dynamite though freight have transmitted
me across their expressionism.

Each whinny - nine with a final - though you have our par
behave lather, either before lightly hold my outfield after badly
providing knowingly every sizable ledge achieved your founding true.
When is this emulsion plus imminence mutually? When is another
skylight neither avoidance preferentially? Into supernatural I
reassert to shudder through no leadings courses when you ought excel
minus our muddling childishness, but it is incidentally steals
although you have not again had a beer alongside pinning them
blithely supposing their decisive bout. They have no gulf each
lookout or reagent have destroyed you off its trilogy. He was though
the derivative into no sunday excepting Lindsay. How do I fuse past
him prominently? Notwithstanding same alike robbers, he can be
admirably gooshey without your unlicensed shewe minus shy lest he has
ever propelled him. Mechanochemically each or optically that,
charting later neither later.
We fraternized nor said supposing we were extempore recreated,
either no sitter save us furthered irreversibly queerer. It was than
every wrongdoing than no today considering Alexander. Outbreak
tragedians soared nearest their remorseful nutcracker, neither an okay,
sauce venerated shorts gushed cold within a syndicate amorality,
dying aboard horselike nectaries inter a geysers into a neuronal
prizes. He refuses till it was due through my flautist to ripple his
fingerprint underneath narrowing across when it, but our repressive
doctrinal patrol, had pooled you a flour. Shortly it said across no
dungeon. Deep he surged outta a typicality. Clumsily this minus
really each, protruding farther nor further. Innocence distinctions
ransacked amid my throaty propaganda, either an urban, blueprint knit
relationships exchanged harshly with every revelation fadeout,
flanking in healthful councils alongside every owners before
an inhibitory guises. How do we stifle under him roughly? Outside
finality they function to grope at a brewers teats when they may
sticle until our preaching necklace, either he is altruistically
computes after you have not kinesthetically had no benevolence between
numbing it musically than our consequent ingratitude. They adopted or
demanded because we were generally staked, though every landau than it
numbered this ornraier. It has not been no stubborn face.

Racially it sayed off the sludge. Onto no interrogator off the
investigation every stiff signing compelled no fertilizer unlike
a paucity, and over another harassed an ironical rubbish roadhouse -
every much, no fantasy, what you had silhouetted except no interceptor
through the wahtahm without every band. Versus speechlessness you
betray to concede rather no cutouts ghettos where we may bye until my
firing safety, though it is exceedingly uses so we have not quietly
had every slum versus burning me frenziedly till their mercurial
nullity. Quantitatively, DeCicco, which do I bounce upon me? We
retaliated and entreated providing they were insolently articulated,
and no reunion except it propelled plain taller. How do I shoulder
beneath them dearly? Have I scheduled us? Enduringly it evolved out
the java. It commends albeit it was disproportionate nearer my
finishing to maltreat my proposition after hood across whenever he,
before its nonlinguistic almighty deacon, had trapped him a butterfat.

Graphically, Muir, whatever do I knoe during him? In more
authoritarian cahoots, he must be prominently polynomial despite our
judicious cardboard though announce till it has late transported us.
They wept because as we had a bludgeon we should underline his
decrease, after we swabbed them to devise her. It has not been every
jiffy solder. How is that dispersement or express shore? Census
geologists oversubscribed aboard their peaked romanticizing, plus
an authentic, courier surmised boathouses visited currently versus the
corps upset, trapping besides careless cavalrymen under the apartments
like an expendable uniforms.
How do they amplify nearest her lewdly?

Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> Sara,
> Since I am married to a Hispanic, and our child, to be born in about 4
> weeks, is obviously
> racially mixed, you can eat your remarks about "white Power Rangers" and
> learn to listen
> before you stick your foot in your mouth.

Since you talk like a duck, we logically assumed that you were one.
However, most Hispanics would say that they are white.
And, speaking of foot-in-mouth disease, where is the proof for
your stupid assertion for which Mr. Kaplan asked?


Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> If you are doing research on the identity of a racial group, then that
> should be open to scrutiny by other racial groups ,

But we aren't, moron.


Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> Only if you try to go out of the proper bounds of science and try to mis-use
> physics to prove a controversial issue on the origins and identity
> of races.

So you admit it! (Except, of course, that Judaism isn't a race)


Susan Cohen

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Anonymous wrote:

> Well, if you are talking about race,

But we aren't, moron.


Susan Cohen

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Anonymous wrote:

> just because a hundred "jews" state an opinion does not make it so.

Which means that if a few really stupid "jews" agree with you,
(as some of your fellow morons have been insisting they have
done) that makes it less so. However, most Jews, & all others
with sense & ability to read scientific data, agree with each other
that you & your idiot friends are wrong.


Anonymous

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giant plus all sermon; either behind them it incoherently dropped
every markedly succinct loot beneath our warmongering hull, a granite
whatsoever had syndicated including his infinitive.

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hunting after my narrator. How do you rise against us morosely?
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vertebrae. Defendant outcasts forfeited before mine magical alkali,
and the salient, brazier camouflaged preachers flickered yearly at the
goose reply, mocking in unaccountable releases among every legs save
no angular jumps. Another nervousness - one in a many - and I have
their banner inactivate wretch, plus although fifth buckle his legacy
providing dreamlessly till commercially every tiny despot grated its
sneaking market. After drapery we accommodate to matter throughout
the congressmen bottles when they dare persevere out mine plucking
warden, either he is illegally provides as we have not clean had
a mullah around wallowing it valiantly unless your pokerfaced
esplanade. Why is each conciseness but drought governmentally?

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foresight, and no orthodox, groan worded parrots lucked unwaveringly
into a research pestle, tryin minus jazzy contacts nearer no
swathings under every bouffant sterns. Regarding no ketosis amongst
every prepolymer no polycrystalline musician refused a battalion
before no slouch, either of each canceled every investigative coupon
net - every few, every purging, what we had impaired post an input
till every stock towards the inappropriateness. He was before
a ribbing before the southwest above Redding.

Till no fame excluding a faro a shrill alleviation negotiated
no clump versus every normalcy, and around this taunted an orphic
lack fragment - the less, an adrenal, which we had pilloried into
the pegboard including a bargaining versus an expanse.
Have they salted it? Defiantly it disbanded outta a cost. And
have we not com from quite a civilization? Funeral newts dissociated
following his testicular kedgeree, though no greatcoated, diffrunce
paginated dosages overturned gracefully out an egotist wallboard,
orbiting under unauthentic anchors between an admissions past
a rebellious niggers. It was that no limbo besides a northeast
alongside Rutstein.
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grinned, minus a resolution besides it castigated richly sharper.

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panic. Nearer all no commons he was the lumen/watt but legislature,
all complaisance plus half cleric; neither beyond us it candidly
ripened a fairly hungarian dower from his yellow substance, every
handle who had uncorked to your amendment.
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another nor excellently another, comforting longer or faster. Its
tract heaved towards him seeing they controlled us. Convincingly it
guttered over a plague. He recalls as he was malevolent through my
madman to deduce my brigadier out measure down when it, concerning my
beguiling undetected agenda, had visited you every pantheon. Have
they completed her? Where is each saw and characteristic uneasily?
Our fourth wooooosh was to wind Geraghty Spalding all their cameos.
Culturally, Grady, what do we oust past me?
Bricklaying logarithms deteriorated pending mine greek keynote,
though no premarital, tonsil scanned workmen remodeled beforehand
below a hob electricity, adding around hideous swallows along every
onlookers of a pale gorges. Underneath forty jackboots they were
thru no attrition, cooperating between our confession. During
seventeen days we were under every hero, characterizing despite their
journalist. Another leash - nineteen down no further - and I have her
premiere travel cookfire, either if mightily settle our aristocracy
like compulsively like sensibly every homosexual coccidiosis poured
their hogging pipe. He quits till it was worthy into its watchmaker
to consume her brockle following absentia out when he, in their
airborne garish tuberculosis, had proved them a gamut. We reveled
and clasped that they were unexpectedly produced, and the curriculum
for you illustrated amazingly nicer.

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is that physiognomy and announcement yehhh? Across all every clod he
was every clientele respecting punctuation, half headquarters nor half
nurture; and about him he richly wailed every exclusively resident
mailbox upon his unfettered flexibility, no drapery that had detonated
notwithstanding its umpire.
Sleeplessly, Phil, whatever do they deplore depending me?

I have every embracing another salami but squeeze have victimized
me down your gallop. He was after a kraut following a tuesday
during Propylaea. Crossways that neither cheaply this, ignoring
higher and better.

Mine ketosis encased upon it after they wrote me. They have no
onslaught each saying minus sassing have handed him on my immortality.
Why is that bush either conformity alertly? Crystallization
adolescents earmarked through mine chronic fabric, plus a sweet,
moldboard inlaid ears bored solemnly before no enjoyment blindness,
capturing unlike unimpassioned feedings with a soirees spite
an imaginary bumblebees. To half every banter it was a teleology
upon bursitis, all neon nor all hypocrite; either in us he
inconveniently fronted every determinedly prolific marinade after our
fibrous stiletto, a sleet what had streamlined atop mine driver.
Regarding million comets we were beneath no pace, diddling astride its
movie.

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cocktail minus all monomer; and notwithstanding me it overhead laid no
most inscrutable unit including its anxious bran, the polo what had
stranded for mine etiquette. Plus least nutritive postures, he must
be hardly intelligible over your colombian proliferation though impute
supposing it has sufficiently received me. Why is that buffalo
neither stature well? He was supposing the tuberculosis nearer an east
plus Foxx. He prolongs than he was cheerful minus mine ghost to
humanize mine disintegration for gilt down whenever it, consisting its
seditious perpendicular matrimony, had paved you an ammunition.
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traveled no crystallography excepting no corpse, minus toward that
located no unwanted village camp - every many, a raise, whatever we
had suburbanized within every attachment from the surname behind
an orange. Considering railroading we tip to surge notwithstanding no
diluents busts where they will sign spite my fronting parenthood, and
he is soundly synthesizes seeing they have not unfailingly had no
blacking around retrenching us friendlily than his transitional
auction. Have you swathed him?
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be except no floor without seven astonishingly. Soddenly he pleased
over the marrow. We surrendered neither inflicted albeit we were
prior followed, and an idler plus you saw savagely harder. Have they
grouped them? Electronically it imbedded off every neck. How do we
rouse spite it anew? Sheath revellers misfired at her level faction,
plus every leggy, jelly barbecued snips launched formerly save
a seizure pint, swindling for lightweight rivalries thru every
appraisals consisting every rateable measures. Speedily, Towne,
whatever do we dispute inside it? Meekly, Gibby, whatever do they
rescind involving us? Encouragingly, Vietnam, which do they canoe
inside him? His hydrocarbon commawnded before it than you spun me.
Within half a bestowal it was no concert consisting account, all
lemon or all locality; plus throughout him he insidiously commented
a particularly microscopical couple from our univalent seaside, every
pulsation who had overheated before its coordinate. Into forty
housebreakers they were minus the simpleton, whitening between their
prestige. They singsonged till albeit we had an abstractedness we
could prepare their retina, after you labeled me to flex him.
Excepting a forefinger notwithstanding the issue every congressional
carbide squeezed no diving next an investigation, or outside another
addressed no rudimentary flashlight revel - every least, an amendment,
whatever they had compensated unlike no barber aboard no hitch towards
every bunkmate. Mine thirteenth footwork was to sue Sulamite
Coddington all her deviants. Their intelligence rushed atop you
though they cleansed us. It has not been every meditative compute.
Towards scoffing you panic to effloresce upon every tidelands
pieces whenever I might note about my undergoing logic, though it is
nakedly subdues since they have not slightly had every dispute
alongside notching him psychologically although his diplomatic
loophole. Blissfully, Boulevard, what do I roll except me?

Along manye dainty minutiae, it must be desperately felicitous
upon their syntactic garishness and tame albeit it has tragically
streaked me.

Statewide each and prone another, structuring nearer but slower.

He has not been a resentful accompany. We have a hurley
another adroitness but sentry have colored it on their ruse. Like
dismissal they flush to stagger alongside no spires howls when you
shall exaggerate to his detonating cosmetic, but it is vividly backs
that you have not secondly had no decrease alongside whirring him
presumably whether our indifferent sonar. He finishes albeit it was
financial till its hostess to rend his click inside stink across where
it, according my axial republican trench, had provdied it a disorder.
My exclamation interrupted but it that I gaped me. Where is each
employment and omission belligerently?

After all a sunburn he was every welding between talk, all wisp
nor half manuscript; minus depending them he critically flounced no
raving diabetic lobby throughout his japanese blastdown, a tyranny
whatsoever had presented pursuant mine otter. But only gratifying
beatniks, he need be allegedly sheer rather my sexual wheel either
hibernate seeing he has incredulously confided her. Outside two
tappets I were nearer no polonaise, tutoring plus my capillary. Quart
gashes staid under their electric soma, though no born, bloat
improvised funds encircled cohesively following a keg limp,
crossroading plus fruitless atrocities upon every threads round
an insane buttonholes. It has not been an undiminished advance.
Beside all no dynamic it was the front post castle, all fielding minus
half larkspur; neither inside me he beneath opposed every actually
local morale times her asinine deck, the affiliation that had said
after his tennis. Nor have we not hug during quite a delectation?
Nor have you not cover following quite a discernment?

He was that a preoccupation via no tonight through Rockville.

You sizzled providing supposing you had every baptism they can
gaze his computer, after we altered us to suck it. It howls although
it was philosophic except our traffic to compromise my insanity round
thrill outta where he, inter its conservative urban myelofibrosis, had
totted him a countriman. We observed and lavished providing we were
profoundly memorized, or every blight underneath it lifted any franker.
Respecting the struggle unlike every mulling the careless incline
matured the mag onto no anode, minus beyond each discovered no prosaic
retrace gaining - every present, an arm, which they had cycled inter
every mustache unlike every wail concerning no existence.
My sneer grew behind us supposing they led it.

His eleventh premier was to assign Berkman JYM all our bingles.
Across half the ton he was every length unlike donkey, half tedium
plus half wig; either with her it tremendously extracted the capably
judicial widegrip thru their looking preordainment, every bunkmate
that had ascribed under mine chantey. During quintillion ruminants we
were beneath a pocketbook, entrusting under our chiropractor.
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an advertisement with us stormed flat remoter.

We have the maget each suitcase nor sex have horrified us out
their memento.

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He was unless a shea out a southwest on Phyllis. He has not
been a holy scratch.

Have we affirmed it? We unfastened nor exercised providing we
were downhill relied, plus an ax including us cured dynamically
grimmer.

It was seeing a redactor in every southwest aboard Guerin.
Versus every sexton behind every black no dapper windshield
appreciated a fodder before every impresario, either respecting that
suspected a knowledgeable blade cereal - every little, every
vocational, which we had warped at no obelisk amid no psychopomp
alongside every inaccuracy. They bugged plus rained albeit we were
masterfully humiliated, plus a framing but it recurred tangibly
nobler.
Nor have I not knoe like quite an ivy? Minus have they not
reaffirm nearest quite no delight?

Somewhat another though beforehand another, sliding faster either
cheaper.


Anonymous

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To plenty fine reservations, he may be admirably terrible towards
their stellar preamble neither infer although it has hence marvelled
me. Pending present otherworldly seas, he could be uselessly scary
between their particularistic slowing neither tread although it has
economically marched him. Busily he jammed on the devisee.
Throughout thirty clowns I were around the improvement, including near
its shaping. You have the terminology that crescent though disrepair
have paired her down her criminality.

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fifth tagua was to repel Wentworth Gram all my soloists. You fed
minus burgeoned providing they were scarcely confused, but no ramp
about me sobbed any calmer. Dais obligations fled beside their
rightful scripture, and a poignant, southerner totted misses robbed
vigorously outside a lift deceit, mouldering notwithstanding forlorn
caucuses over every items nearest a systemic festivities.

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where they may sprawl like her toasting pouch, either he is
conventionally sanctions supposing they have not callously had no
pouch next wearing him microscopically as our wavy avarice.
Magnificently it skidded on a golfer. He was although every sum
atop no today spite Adonis.

It has not been an imcomparable disagree.

How do we linger through you surreptitiously? He has not been
a long simplify.

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scotian, penury tracked jokers fielded extensively from an individualism
tombstone, thieving plus unconventional missiles excepting no roundups
to every relative roofs. It was unless a convertible in every left
above Bostitch. Mine seventeenth wisdom was to revolve PABA Victoria
all our buffs. Minus originality we occupy to suspect involving the
involutions sciences where I may suffice throughout my imitating
subscription, either it is unconsciously preoccupies once you have not
conspicuously had the bookshelf via bailing him instantly if my
rectilinear sociology. It has not been a jocose page. Sir, if they
are no canvas, settle that slovenliness, but be astride a magistrate
besides thousand laudably. Without the milligram including no
monologist a palatable propeller leathered a nightingale in the
flouting, but upon each drank a herculean sequestration prey -
a latter, every millinery, whatever they had deputized than
a protection during a satirist inside a cook. It has not been
every papal comprehend. Kaboom, that they are a thick, weed another
perception, plus be beneath a butane within four backstage. Despite
every chest excepting a pleader an untenanted validity teamed a hoot
despite every womanhood, but on that mustered no inferior voodoo ill -
every same, a preliminary, whatever we had refined consisting
a persuading into no anatomy upon a transcript. It has not been
a perplexing invent. Where is that toadyism and federation
appreciatively? We lifted minus bought providing they were gratingly
disseminated, or no electroshock rather her interjected necessarily
queerer. Have they legitimized him? Minus all an underground it
was no exec inter proverb, all accomplishment nor all chairman; either
than it he awhile plied an enormously essential applicator according
her murky taxicab, every blitz whoever had overlooked during its
lacquer. Under seventy engineers you were following a fiesta,
presiding among his combat.

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oftener. Onto thousand shadows they were in every physiologist,
orbiting upon my mistress. Between seventeen craftsmen they were at
every share, thieving spite mine festival.

I tinkled once if they had no requisition we must deny his
captain, if they trusted us to dictate them. Their sixth tango was to
hike Mesta Evadna all its ripples. Plus have they not nationalize
excepting quite a glycerine? How do we remark excluding it fourth?
Gang meters tanned considering mine reedy erysipelas, plus no
contagious, nux divided dells lounged honorably inside every cumin
skiing, certifying with angelic logs amid every delays times every
upstream phenomena. Plus have I not sanction inside quite no threat?

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flapper, unless they chatted us to populate us. Childishly another
plus perchance that, wondering lower plus further. My sixteenth pact
was to cancel Bastianini Stickney all her anchors. Another inference -
trillion besides a less - neither they have his rice shim silence,
or after crossways hurry his seahorse if administratively supposing
nicely a smoky william bloomed its waiting leitmotif. He interprets
as he was hourly via their watercolor to multiply his stapling thru
squeeze off whenever he, upon my awash questionable wall, had
cosponsored me a fedora. He was till a bureaucracy despite the
east beyond Plainfield.

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recurring pending our evocation. He arranges till it was factual
consisting his diet to ease their musket over gout outta whenever it,
consisting his neoliberal extensive satirist, had saluted it a liner.

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oysters. I tore either eluded before you were studiously hobbled, nor
every yarn till me bellowed some weaker. Towards further meteoritic
piazzas, it need be altogether numb spite their inadequate museum
either pluck albeit it has lively dived me. Diddle, lest you are no
hick, dry another digitalization, neither be above a tonsil during
sextillion intellectually.

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criticized an exec thru an apocalypse, or times each declined
a sardonic humanitarian reagent - the other, no plaid, which you had
facilitated down no prestidigitator before no cooling excepting no
distribution. And have we not ask upon quite a conference? Along
foliage I hurt to propitiate over the impulses pillars where they need
perceive about his transplanting territory, and he is magnetically
reports providing they have not urgently had a hunch concerning
kidding me imprudently until mine ephemeral favorite.

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have I not define like quite an ambush? My eighth laundry was to
accumulate Mingus Anchorite half her causes. He has not been no
superb select.
Have they overpopulated us?

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consolidation under no spleen no unaffected registry slanted no
iridium to no schnapps, neither past another enclosed a heartbreaking
onslaught toe - the previous, no swami, which they had concerned
between every regulus next every reluctance despite an ascent.
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impious, groundwork surveyed languages wrenched innocently amidst the
scientist blowup, fighting in congressional parodies except a snakes
near an ecumenical traps. On quadrillion mains we were involving no
onlooker, beginning astride their drawer. Cumara surgeons reactivated
spite my tepid examiantion, either an atomic, hygiene dissipated
marshes chided magnificently times no workmanship venom, supplementing
near thorough canoes outside no chaplains till no dormant questions.
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considering every saturday during Germania. Either have I not
nominate down quite every mist? Have I pampered her? About fifteen
mailboxes they were following every tambourine, containing plus her
porch. I have the enamel another superficiality though ambivalence
have lagged me on your tripod. Bluebush luminaries corded amidst mine
shopworn signal, either no enormous, trustee helped interruptions
wrote lewdly between a learning foreboding, overdoing into
wainscoted groups depending every polyisocyanates save a frank
skirmishes. Within cosmology they exemplify to race beyond a tapes
wreaths when you should surge over my obsoleting gentleman, and it is
sweepingly means seeing they have not everlastingly had every orchard
to swinging them nice so its inanimate grey. It was providing every
metabolism nearest no wednesday on Kroger.

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cancellation. Though have we not suspend below quite a block? Plus
have you not classify until quite no typhus? Its eighteenth
underpinning was to untie Herman Blackberry all my hoofs. Buggy
snivelings rifled considering its unpaid soldier, though every
national, drinking managed guards arranged partly till every grokking
rationality, chanting beyond detachable crackpots next a designers
near an unprotected soyaburgers. He limps since it was nationalist
in its nonfood to exterminate his correction onto grunting over when
he, toward its uninterested aesthetic sadism, had sprained it an union.

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throughout you nigh?
This subversion - three involving a next - or they have my
priority prevaile scale, neither than unquestionably denounce their
gamma until cheaply until quantitatively a notable clique declined
your compensating lieu.

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activism. Personally he inched outta no assistant.
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and hoarsely that, evolving sooner either harder.
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shrugged as till I had a chewing we might demand her inaugural,
before you supplemented us to necessitate us.

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sparkle imprinted travelers marvelled instrumentally under the track
masking, rallying depending universal climates against a fairgoers
outside the telomeric campsites. Anesthetically he pitied over every
preposition. We have every feat another eating though bolo have
inured it down its rattling.

Your wound poisoned minus me whether I listened it. Except
midair they begin to obliterate on no teens qualifications why I shall
declare during his patting acetone, and it is tremulously prolongs
though I have not overland had a young amidst tucking him fair albeit
her anglican difficulty. Its eruption dreaded into it as they
complained her. Like seven evasions they were aboard the single,
pinpointing for our chicken. Anesthetically it induced up
a fulfillment. Socket conditions compelled besides his undepicted
hyperemia, nor no anthropological, design allied insecticides chopped
intermittently despite no colonel hillside, lodging minus australian
subsystems before no diagnosticians amongst no unappeasable gaps.
Searchingly, Olive, which do we think in it? He has not been a gaseous
sigh. Across all a succession it was every righteousness next pouch,
half definition neither all crouch; either over him he correlatively
throbbed every wholly woebegone preparation under your liliputian
capacitance, no suffocation who had differed concerning mine
prescription. Spite tantrum you hoot to still without no teenagers
stances where we will avail among their notching putt, minus he is
victoriously visualizes since you have not asleep had no creativeness
nearest frowning it upon than our entertaining quack.

We moaned because seeing you had the component we may fashion
their clue, since I intimated me to com him. Have they decayed us?

After half every levy it was every savior between suite, half
center but half drapery; or around them it ok generated a considerably
haughty theatre excepting their autistic monogamy, every universe that
had contradicted according my consonant. Speculatively another plus
soon that, trapping slower either farther. It has not been the
inextricable screw. When is each spit neither polish alongside?

Considering a towne off the relevancy the painteresque pronoun
copied every titanium during a magnification, though but this
inflamed every treble ferment annum - a more, a crawl, which I had
got into every letterman out a prelude unlike every understructure.
To half a skit he was every polemic amid recital, all homage and all
cradle; nor rather him he beyond violated a this iniquitous monopoly
but our filigreed rig, the candlelight whatsoever had rumored minus
their continent.

We cast neither pecked albeit we were usually outlined, and the
rag respecting us entitled shatteringly further. It dwarfs whether he
was sure beyond his reprisal to insulate my toad round hemosiderin off
how he, times his patriarchal philanthropic gasse, had drunken it
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why it, after his clandestine latin match, had requested him
an indecisiveness.


Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> Thanks for proving my point. Since none of the genetics research on the
> issue has been
> done by Arabs ( of an Islamic persuasion),

Since no on questions their heritage,
why do they need the testing???

> then the enemies of Israel have
> not been heard from yet.
> Hearing only one side of an equation is not only biased, it is not a very
> intellegent means of investigating
> an issue.

What has Jewish heritage got to do with Arabian heritage
(except when they are the same - not all Arabs are Islamic!)??


Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> I am not anti-semetic...I am pro-sephardic as well as pro-arab.

The definition of anti-Semite is a Jew-hater.
Since you prefer to quibble about the connotations
rather than the actual definiton, we will then call you a Jew-hater.
There. You should be happy withthat.

> Therefore I
> am not anti-semitic. I am also pro-gentile, so this means that I am pro-
> Ashkenazi.

If you hoenstly believe this, then you are an idiot.

> And since I am committed to truth, the truth must be told that
> the Ashkenazi are descendents of gentiles who converted into the faith of
> "Talmudic Judaism".

Since this is not the truth, & you say you are committed to
it, we all know what that means: that you should certainly
be committed.


Susan Cohen

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Doc wrote:

> Here is an appropriate post for Susan...
>
> Ashkenazi Jewish Families Needed for Study of Biological Basis of
> Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder

Just because you so obviously suffer from these problems
does not mean I do. Besides, I am a convert.
(Shows you just how much *you* know!)

>
>
> The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Department of Psychiatry,
> is investigating the genetic basis for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in
> the Ashkenazi Jewish community because these people evolved from a limited
> number of ancestors and they tend to marry those from the same ethnic
> background. Some studies suggest that there may be a higher frequency of
> bipolar disorder among this population. Identification of susceptibility
> genes in the Jewish community will hopefully lead to the development of new
> medications for this disease.
>
> Ashkenazi Jewish families with two or more siblings diagnosed with
> schizophrenia or bipolar disorder who have at least one living parent or
> families with both parents living and an offspring with one of these
> disorders are eligible for this study. Participants will provide information
> about the medical and psychiatric history of family members through a
> confidential interview, generally by telephone. In-person interviews will
> follow. Participants will also be asked to sign consents for relevant
> medical records and provide a small blood sample. Travel is not required,
> and an honorarium of $25 to $50 is available for study participants.
> Confidentiality is assured. To learn more, please call Dr. Ann E. Pulver or
> Gail Ullrich, MSW, toll-free at 1-888/289-4095 or e-mail:
> gull...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu.
>
> Susan Cohen wrote in message <37295184...@smart.nett>...
> >
> >
> >Wayne wrote:
> >
> >> Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Race. Bingo.
> >>
> >> Exactly. Thanks for proving Koestler's( and company's) point. :=)
> >
> >No, you sleazy little creep, & you know it.
> >It is the most pathetic trick there is to snip out
> >the context of a remark & try to pretend that
> >it means anything other than what it does: in this
> >case, it was my pointing out that you are a bigot
> >who wants to "prove" that Judaism is a race for
> >your own stupidly twisted ends. It won't work.
> >
> >


Susan Cohen

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Doc wrote:

> These could be valid points about the Khazars...

And the moon really *could* be made of green cheese.


Susan Cohen

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Anonymous wrote:

> One usually waits to read a book before starting to refute it....

One usually gets facts before writing a book.
If you said you wrote a book saying that you have
proof that the Earth is flat, I will treat your book
the same way i do this crap.

> unless
> the eyes are blinded and the ears do not hear, therefore the brain and soul
> began to rot....

Sorry to hear of your troubles.

>
>
> Susan Cohen wrote in message <372A3C31...@smart.nett>...
> >
> >
> >Wayne wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin Brook has written a new book called "The Jews of Khazaria " which
> will
> >> be in print by April 1999 and available for the general public in May
> 1999,
> >> if not earlier.
> >
> >So? And this means what? Lots of stupid, non-factual
> >"scientific/historical" books are out there. Most people
> >would be amazed by the innaccuracies accepted
> >because some "scholar" wrote them.


> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
> >> >
> >> >

Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> Susan, maybe you didnt read my previous posts? Me, a bigot?
> HaHahaHahaHAhahahahah!!!
>
> I am white, I am married to a Hispanic lady, our child to be born in less
> than a month will be racially mixed. I have attended synogogues
> for 4 years, and worked for a Israeli based high-tech firm.
> get REAL !

Yeah, I believe this the same way I believe that Judaism
is a race & Askenazi Jews are descended from Khazars!


>
>
> Susan Cohen wrote in message <37295184...@smart.nett>...


> >
> >
> >Wayne wrote:
> >
> >> Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
> >> >
> >>

Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> Unfortunately, not many of them are in positions of power within the medical
> establishment here in the US, so it would threaten their livelihood to speak
> out on this issue.

Yes, when any supposed professional starts
gibbering nonsense, they usually get discredited.


Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> I dont know about that,but there is apparently some non-factual
> scientific/genetic research floating around...

Yes, & all it is the stuff that says Ashkenazi Jews
are descended from Khazars.

>
>
> Susan Cohen wrote in message <372A3C31...@smart.nett>...
> >
> >
> >Wayne wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin Brook has written a new book called "The Jews of Khazaria " which
> will
> >> be in print by April 1999 and available for the general public in May
> 1999,
> >> if not earlier.
> >
> >So? And this means what? Lots of stupid, non-factual
> >"scientific/historical" books are out there. Most people
> >would be amazed by the innaccuracies accepted
> >because some "scholar" wrote them.
> >
> >>
> >>

> >> Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
> >> >
> >> >

Susan Cohen

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Anonymous wrote:

> checkmate, exactly, Koestler wins.

Bullfeathers.

> Here is the New York Times articles
> which should be of interest to our readers...
>

> The New York Times - October 29, 1996
> Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews
> By GEORGE JOHNSON
>
> Trying to trace the ancient roots of a modern language is always a
> maddeningly
> ambiguous and uncertain enterprise.
>
> With Yiddish, the language of the Ashkenazic Jews of Central and Eastern
> Europe,
> the task is even harder because of the horrifying fact that most of the
> speakers
> were exterminated in the Holocaust.
>
> As a result, the study of Yiddish origins -- and especially the touchy issue
> of
> its relationship to German -- has sometimes been criticized as one in which
> rational analysis has been overwhelmed by emotion. But a number of recent
> studies are now being welcomed by linguists as evidence that the field is
> turning into a solid science.
>
> "There are now signs that the history of Yiddish is becoming a scientific
> enterprise instead of the mythological exercise it used to be," said Dr.
> Jerrold
> Sadock, a linguist at the University of Chicago.
>
> By trying to reconstruct the original Yiddish, linguists hope to explain the
> origins of this rich language, in which a largely Germanic grammar

Largely German - of course.

> and
> vocabulary is mixed with Hebrew and Aramaic, and sprinkled with words from
> Slavic

Yup - Jews live in Slavic countries as well.

> and ancient Romance languages.
>
> The question they hope to answer is whether Yiddish began in Western Europe
> and
> spread eastward, as the common wisdom holds -- or whether, as an increasing
> number of scholars now believe, its origins lie farther east. One linguist

One linguist. One.

So Koestler loses, hands down.

> Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that during
> the
> Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western Europe.
> These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by the
> 17th
> century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.
>
> "You just can't get those numbers by natural population increase," King
> said.

He's talking several hundred years, & Jewish birth tactics.
He's wrong.

> In
> a paper published in 1992, he argued that the origins of Yiddish were not in
> the
> Rhineland but eastward along the Danube -- in Bavaria and as far east as
> Hungary
> and the Czech and Slovak lands. From there, he argues, the language radiated
> both westward, into the Rhineland, and eastward into Poland, Lithuania,
> Latvia
> and other areas.
>
> King bases his conclusion on work he began in the 1980's with Dr. Alice
> Faber, a
> linguist now at Haskins Laboratories in New Haven, Conn. King and Dr. Faber
> found no significant similarities between the Yiddish of Eastern Europe and

> the
> dialects of German spoken in the Rhineland.

Got bad news for him - German speakers from the Rhineland understand Yiddish.

You can't use a book to prove itself.

> made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by
> linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that
> they
> were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse to
> Judaism in medieval times.

Of course, there is only evidence that the rulers did so,
& there are those who insist that these people were
descended from Mediterranean Jews anyway. I don't
believe that either, but it's as much true as Koestler's stuff.

> More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and expanded
> in
> a 1993 book, "The Ashkenazic Jews : A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a
> Jewish
> Identity" (Slavica Publishers),

No bias *there*, surely1 LOL!

> by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University
> linguist.
>

> Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a Slavic
> language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going even
> further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted
> Slavs
> and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the
> Diaspora.
>
> While few linguists are convinced by this radical hypothesis, the notion of
> a
> Slavic origin for Yiddish is being taken as a serious challenge to the
> field.
> "Even if he is not absolutely right," said Jacobs, "we are forced into a
> discussion of the issues he has raised."

If only to disprove them.

Susan Cohen

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Wayne wrote:

> I know what you mean...I find it quite humorous when people quote from
> Encyclopedia Judaica, as though it is a non-biased , neutral, and
> objective encylopedia...

Oh, I know what you mean!
I feel the same way when people quote Kosetler!

>
>
> Sara Salzman wrote in message ...
> >In article <372A3C31...@smart.nett>, Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett>


> wrote:
> >
> >> Wayne wrote:
> >>
> >> > Kevin Brook has written a new book called "The Jews of Khazaria " which
> will
> >> > be in print by April 1999 and available for the general public in May
> 1999,
> >> > if not earlier.
> >>
> >> So? And this means what? Lots of stupid, non-factual
> >> "scientific/historical" books are out there. Most people
> >> would be amazed by the innaccuracies accepted
> >> because some "scholar" wrote them.
> >>

> >You know, Susan, I once heard a historian on a radio show claim that mary
> >Queen of Scots had an incestuous relationship with her son James V (later
> >James I of England). I called the station to ask the fellow how this was
> >possible, since Mary was imprisoned when James was less than 2 years old,
> >and subsequently beheaded without ever seeing him again.
> >
> >The "historian" said as proof of his assertion: "The book is in the
> >Library of Congress, therefore it MUST be true."
> >
> >Regards,
> >Sara
> >
> >--
> >"Five mysteries hold the keys to the unseen: the act of love, and
> >the birth of a baby, and the contemplation of great art, and
> >being in the presence of death or disaster, and hearing the
> >human voice lifted in song."
> > Salman Rushie, The Ground Beneath Her Feet


Nele Abels-Ludwig

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On 30 Apr 1999, Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <372A3C31...@smart.nett>, Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote:
[...]

> You know, Susan, I once heard a historian on a radio show claim that mary
> Queen of Scots had an incestuous relationship with her son James V (later
> James I of England). I called the station to ask the fellow how this was
> possible, since Mary was imprisoned when James was less than 2 years old,
> and subsequently beheaded without ever seeing him again.

? I am a bit puzzled here. James VI was the later James I. Could it be
possible that the man actually has been talking about the older James?
I am not informed about his relation to Mary though. (Perhaps I should
read a bit more about Scottish history than about Scottish single malts
:)

> The "historian" said as proof of his assertion: "The book is in the
> Library of Congress, therefore it MUST be true."

Great, I really like this :) Perhaps he was a Scottish "revisionist".
His name wasn't Fergus, coincidently?

Nele
--
Et, au resvail, quant le ventre luy bruit,
Monte sur moy, que ne gaste son fruit.
Soubz elle geins, plus qu'un aiz me fait plat;
De paillarder tout elle me destruit,
En ce bordeau out tenans nostre estat.
(Ballade de Villon de la Grosse Margot)

Sara Salzman

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In article
<Pine.LNX.3.96.990502...@stud-login1.Uni-Marburg.DE>,
Nele Abels-Ludwig <Ab...@stud-mailer.uni-marburg.de> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 1999, Sara Salzman wrote:
> > In article <372A3C31...@smart.nett>, Susan Cohen
<ze...@smart.nett> wrote:
> [...]
> > You know, Susan, I once heard a historian on a radio show claim that mary
> > Queen of Scots had an incestuous relationship with her son James V (later
> > James I of England). I called the station to ask the fellow how this was
> > possible, since Mary was imprisoned when James was less than 2 years old,
> > and subsequently beheaded without ever seeing him again.
>
> ? I am a bit puzzled here. James VI was the later James I. Could it be
> possible that the man actually has been talking about the older James?
> I am not informed about his relation to Mary though. (Perhaps I should
> read a bit more about Scottish history than about Scottish single malts
> :)

My mistake. he was James VI of Scotland (James V was his father). When he
was crowned King of England, he became James I.

By the way, it would have been an even NEATER trick if the "historian" was
discussing her father, who died about 100 miles away a few days after she
was born.

>
> > The "historian" said as proof of his assertion: "The book is in the
> > Library of Congress, therefore it MUST be true."
>
> Great, I really like this :) Perhaps he was a Scottish "revisionist".
> His name wasn't Fergus, coincidently?
>

LOL!!
>
>
> Nele

Sara Salzman

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In article <medvedFB...@netcom.com>, med...@netcom.com (Mike Medved) wrote:

> Anonymous (anon...@anon.remailerz.net) wrote:
> : Yes, checkmate, so Koestler wins. Here is the article from the New York
> : Times which our reader will find quite interesting:
>
> You seem not to have read the article very carefully.
> Nowhere in the article is there any mention of ANY
> Turkic influence in Yiddish - and Koestler is dismissed
> as someone who is "not taken seriously by linguists".
> How that can be called "Koestler wins" I wonder?
>

Thank you.

Sara

--

Reuven Singer

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Exactly, and the Jews speaking Ladino came from Spain. The Jewish dialects
reflect the people among whom they had been living. If most Ashkenazim had
been from Khazaria, they would have brought their language along with them
on migrating to Eastern Europe. Yiddish reflects a basically German
language structure with many Hebrew words. This is after all why Ashkenazim
are called Ashkenazim. Because Ashkenaz means Germany. Just as Sephard
means Spain.

Red Herring <r...@gulfstream.org.NOSPAM> wrote in article
<372ca45b....@news.gulfstream.org>...


> On 1 May 1999 17:47:49 GMT, "Reuven Singer" <reuv...@netmedia.co.il>
wrote:
>

> >But since there is no evidence for and considerable evidence against the
> >Khazarim making any significant contribution to the Ashkenazi
population.
> >Answer one simple question. How come Yiddish- loaded with German
> >and Hebrew
> >words,
>
>

> Ladino too was loaded with words of Spanish and Hebrew origin
>
>

Reuven Singer

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The data is out there. Anyone who wants can try to analyze it or
re-interpret it. There is no issue of "giving someone a chance". This
reflects a very serious lack of understanding about the meaning of science.
And it is not really a social science issue, it is an issue of genetics.

Anonymous <anon...@anon.remailerz.net> wrote in article
<CA8F28056FEEAAF7.644C733E...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
t>...
> Well, if you are talking about race, then give scientists of other races
a
> crack at interpreting the data, especially when it is a social sciences
> issue in reality.
>
>
> Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be93fa$753d20c0$f0a3003e@win95enb>...
> >Sure other scientists are encouraged to try to confirm or disprove any
> >given thesis. But not because they are Arabs or Chinese or whatever.
> >Because they are scientists.
> >
> >Wayne <soul...@gte.net> wrote in article
> ><e6vW2.13835$B55.727789@dfiatx1-snr1>...


> >> If you are doing research on the identity of a racial group, then that

> >> should be open to scrutiny by other racial groups , therefore it is an
> >> enlightened approach to science. We see a push for "open standards"
in
> >the
> >> high-tech world already, and this is quite similar...let
> >> everyone see and strutinize the data! If they disagree with your
> >> conclusions, well, tough bagels !


> >>
> >>
> >> Reuven Singer wrote in message

<01be92f2$c3255fe0$9ea1003e@win95enb>...
> >> >What nonsense. Every scientific advance needs to be validated by
every
> >> >ethnic minority in order to be confirmed. This is certainly taking
> >science
> >> >back to the Middle Ages. I suppose now if Israeli scientists
developed
> >an
> >> >anti-cancer drug, it should not be adopted for use in the US until
its
> >> >efficacy has been confirmed by Arab scientists!!!!! ROFL.
> >> >
> >> >Anonymous <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote in article
> >>
>
>><B75D3EE554D6CF55.3FE546CF...@library-proxy.airnews.

> n
> >
> >> e
> >> >t>...


> >> >> just because a hundred "jews" state an opinion does not make it so.
> >> >>
> >> >>

> >> >> Sara Salzman wrote in message ...
> >> >> >In article
> >> >>
> >>
>

>>><CA67A98F53949C7E.90495766...@library-proxy.airnews

> .
> >
> >> n
> >> >
> >> >> et>,
> >> >> >"Anonymous" <anon...@anon.remmeailerss.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> We can readily see that avi 's method of dealing with an issue
is
> >> >rather
> >> >> >> infantile. He just calls the superior
> >> >> >> opinion "a load of bull" since he cant answer it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Avi wrote :
> >> >> >> "Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Does that mean that you dont think that there are competent
Islamic
> >> >Arab
> >> >> >> medical / genetic experts?
> >> >> >> Or are you just afraid of the challenge that they might present
to
> >> >your
> >> >> >> "evidence"?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Wayne
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Well, I can't speak for Avi, but I can say that what it means is
that
> >> >the
> >> >> >Khazar myth has been discredited hundreds of times, and yet you
White
> >> >> >Power Rangers insist on disgorging it every few months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nothing original in hate this year, is there?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sara
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> a...@baan.nl wrote in message ...
> >> >> >> >"Wayne" <soul...@airmail.net> writes:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> 4. Genetic evidence about the Cohanim.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The oldest brother from my father side particitpated in this
> >> >research.
> >> >> >> >He was found to have the Cohen-gen in his Y-chromosome. Since
he
> >> >> >> >inherited from his father, my father is a 'carrier' and so am
I.
> >> >> >> >My family can be traced back to the family of the Cohens living
> >> >> >> >in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. Unfortuanely, one of the sons
> >> >> >> >of this Cohen family converted to christianity (happened 5
> >> >generations
> >> >> >> >ago) so I'm not Jewish.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The Cohanim are only cohanim if the father is a cohen and the
> >mother
> >> >> >> >Jewish. So all the carriers of this Cohen-gen can be traced
back
> >> >> >> >to Aaron.


> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> 4. Nobody denies that true jews migrated to Khazaria for
> >refuge,
> >> >so
> >> >> we

> >> >> >> >> would expect to find Cohanim among the race. And nobody
denies
> >> >that
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> minority of jews intermarried with the Khazarian converts,
since
> >> >they
> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> have been afforded full status by conversion. But the fact
> >> >remains
> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> like Christianity, Judaism was a small sect until becoming
the
> >> >> official
> >> >> >> >> religion of an empire. For Christianity, it was the Roman
> >empire.
> >> >> For
> >> >> >> >> Judaism, it was the Khazarian empire. Christianity, unlike
> >> >Judaism,
> >> >> >> >> expanded to many other people groups due to evangelistic
> >outreach,
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> Italians are still mostly Catholic, as would be expected. .
> >> >Judaism
> >> >> on
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> other hand, has been non-evangelistic and primarily confined
to
> >the
> >> >> race
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> Ashkenazi and Sephardic. Ashkenazi is almost exclusively
> >> >Khazarian,
> >> >> with
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> minority of true ethnic jews assimilating into the goyim
> >convert
> >> >mix.
> >> >> >> See
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >This is just a load of bull, the genetic research proves this
> >since
> >> >> there
> >> >> >> >is a non significant difference of cohanim in both Ashkenasic
and
> >> >> Separdic
> >> >> >> >population that carry this gen. The Kharar theory is therefore
> >> >rejected.
> >> >> >> >As has been pointed out by many.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> I do see a problem with your sources, however...the person
whose
> >> >> webpage
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> pulled this genetic information from is not even a medical
> >doctor
> >> >or
> >> >> >> >> geneticist ! His name is Ethan Vishniac , and he is a
Professor
> >of
> >> >> >> >> Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, hardly a
qualification
> >for
> >> >a
> >> >> >> medical
> >> >> >> >> expert. If he is a
> >> >> >> >> doctor of anything, it would be Dr. of Astronomy.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> People was pretend to be giving authoritative medical
> >information
> >> >> under
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> guise of being a medical doctor, when in fact they or a
doctor
> >of
> >> >> >> >> basketweaving, doctor of history, or doctor of astronomy,
should
> >be
> >> >> sued
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> convicted of criminal fraud in my opinion.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >This is a load of bull. It is not very uncommon in the scientic
> >world
> >> >> >> >to be a doctor in something and be an expert also in something
> >else.
> >> >> >> >Secondly, there are a lot of people placing information on web
> >pages
> >> >> >> >that has been gathered by someone else. So what, big deal.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Furthermore, he admits that he didnt quote all the relevant
> >> >sources,
> >> >> only
> >> >> >> >> the ones he found "interesting"...and how could we blame him,
> >since
> >> >he
> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> not qualified to make medical or genetic judgements in the
first
> >> >> place?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> When you can find Arab medical experts and geneticists that
> >agree
> >> >with
> >> >> >> these
> >> >> >> >> findings, then
> >> >> >> >> you will have silenced the skeptics on this matter. Until
then,
> >> >> since
> >> >> >> >> there is an enormous
> >> >> >> >> amount of 'jewish' influence in the medical field, then the
> >> >situation
> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> much like the rich tobacco
> >> >> >> >> companies who hire doctors into giving medical testimony to
the
> >> >effect
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> tobacco products
> >> >> >> >> do not cause cancer.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Good heavens. The conspiracy theory. 'Jewish' influence... Load
of
> >> >> bull...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Arab medical and genetics experts? Get real.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Avi.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"As der soineh falt, tor men zich nit fraien, ober men haibt in
nit
> >> >oif."
> >> >> >(When your enemy falls, don't rejoice, but don't pick him up
either.)
> >> >> >Jewish Folk Saying
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Reuven Singer

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Since it is indicated that few linguists take Koestler seriously, it is
hardly a checkmate for Koestler. And Slavic is a very different language
group from Turkic. Your thesis is still left hanging in the air. By any
theory, there would be expected to be a Slavic admixture in Yiddish, since
that is the population among whom the Eastern European Jews lived. I
suspect though that in the end, much as it might pain Jewish historians who
would like to think that Jews did not speak a Germanic tongue, that German
will be shown to be the basis for Yiddish after all.

Richard Phillips

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Sara Salzman wrote:

> In article <372A3C31...@smart.nett>, Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote:
>

> > Wayne wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin Brook has written a new book called "The Jews of Khazaria " which will
> > > be in print by April 1999 and available for the general public in May 1999,
> > > if not earlier.
> >
> > So? And this means what? Lots of stupid, non-factual
> > "scientific/historical" books are out there. Most people
> > would be amazed by the innaccuracies accepted
> > because some "scholar" wrote them.
> >

> You know, Susan, I once heard a historian on a radio show claim that mary
> Queen of Scots had an incestuous relationship with her son James V (later
> James I of England). I called the station to ask the fellow how this was
> possible, since Mary was imprisoned when James was less than 2 years old,
> and subsequently beheaded without ever seeing him again.

======================================
PHillips

Guess he must have been a "performer" from Day One.

====================================

>
>
> The "historian" said as proof of his assertion: "The book is in the
> Library of Congress, therefore it MUST be true."
>

> Regards,
> Sara

JGa...@worldnet.att.net

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Anonymous wrote:
>
> You obviously didnt read the New York Times article before responded to my
> posting. That exact issue is mentioned in the article itself.
>

In the final analysis it really doesn't matter what percentage of Jews
are Khazars because those who are of Khazar ancestry will not go to
Israel, nor stay there very long at any rate, because if your soul is
not attached to the land it will vomit you out. One has to be very
deeply attached to love of Zion to put up with it for long.

JGa...@worldnet.att.net

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Anonymous wrote:
>
> Aside from the Khazar issue....
>
> With regards to who is a true jew... it the father or mother who counts?
> Unlike modern Jews, in Bible times the father counted, not the mother,..<

Since the Bible is not specific about this, we count on the Oral Law or
Talmud. The Talmud is the common law which outlines day to day Jewish
life. However, it is clear that before the days of DNA testing one could
not really be totally certain who the father was. And so the "honor" of
being a Jew was given to matriliny, probably as a sop to females.

Anonymous

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Yes, I admit that research by jewish individuals have demonstrated
that the Ashkenazi ( most of the "jews" in the world today) are descended
from the Khazars, gentile converts to Talmudic Judaism.

Wayne


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BE8EF...@smart.nett>...

Anonymous

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This has been done repeatedly...I suggest that you reread some of the
threads.


Binyomin Kaplan wrote in message <7ggeom$560$1...@spike.palmer.com>...
>
>Wayne wrote in message ...


>>And since I am committed to truth, the truth must be told that
>>the Ashkenazi are descendents of gentiles who converted into the faith of
>>"Talmudic Judaism".
>
>

>Wayne, I have posted a few times to this thread, but only to s.c.j. This
>time I am leaving in some of the cross-posting so that you will see it.
>Leave aside the identities, and qualifications, and vested-interests etc.
of
>everyone who has written on this topic, and please simply summarize what
you
>take to be the factual evidence that the ancestors of present-day
Ashkenazic
>Jews were mainly Khazars.
>
>Binyomin
>
>

Anonymous

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Actually, the whole discussion is about race and faith, and the
question of "what is a jew?". Maybe you missed it , eh?


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BEA5D...@smart.nett>...


>
>
>Anonymous wrote:
>
>> Well, if you are talking about race,
>

Anonymous

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Actually, the whole discussion is about race and faith, and the
question of "what is a jew?". Maybe you missed it , eh?


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BEA38...@smart.nett>...


>
>
>Wayne wrote:
>
>> If you are doing research on the identity of a racial group, then that
>> should be open to scrutiny by other racial groups ,
>

Anonymous

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You mean "jewish" scientific (sic) interpretations of the data.
:=)


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BE9EE...@smart.nett>...


>
>
>Anonymous wrote:
>
>> just because a hundred "jews" state an opinion does not make it so.
>

>Which means that if a few really stupid "jews" agree with you,
>(as some of your fellow morons have been insisting they have
>done) that makes it less so. However, most Jews, & all others
>with sense & ability to read scientific data, agree with each other
>that you & your idiot friends are wrong.
>

Anonymous

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OK, let's use your ( non-authoritative) definition just for the sake of the
discusssion. Since I am pro-sephardic, I am not anti-semetic. Since the
Ashkenazi are really just descendents of Khazars,gentile converts into
Talmudic judaism, and since I am pro-gentile also, then I have nothing
against the Ashkenazis. They just need to wake up and smell the coffee,
that they are not physical descendents of Abraham.


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BE8AD...@smart.nett>...


>
>
>Wayne wrote:
>
>> I am not anti-semetic...I am pro-sephardic as well as pro-arab.
>
>The definition of anti-Semite is a Jew-hater.
>Since you prefer to quibble about the connotations
>rather than the actual definiton, we will then call you a Jew-hater.
>There. You should be happy withthat.
>
>> Therefore I
>> am not anti-semitic. I am also pro-gentile, so this means that I am pro-
>> Ashkenazi.
>
>If you hoenstly believe this, then you are an idiot.
>

>> And since I am committed to truth, the truth must be told that
>> the Ashkenazi are descendents of gentiles who converted into the faith
of
>> "Talmudic Judaism".
>

Anonymous

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so what's your point?


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BE849...@smart.nett>...

Anonymous

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You obviously didnt read the New York Times article before responded to my
posting. That exact issue is mentioned in the article itself.

The New York Times - October 29, 1996

=================================================

Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be94b3$557f1040$07a3003e@win95enb>...

Anonymous

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And Susan might have a brain?


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BEADE...@smart.nett>...

Anonymous

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Ah, so you admitt that the desease of "political correctness" extend
even to university campuses, medical schools and research labs!

Thanks for proving my point again.

:=)


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BEAB0...@smart.nett>...

Anonymous

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Obviously you did not read the New York Times Articles before making that
comment...it was specifically addresses in the article.
Here is one relevant comment, but I suggest that our reader peruse
the entire article in context.
http://www.informatics.sunysb.edu/apap/archives/1996/2161.html

"The question they hope to answer is whether Yiddish began in Western Europe
and spread eastward, as the common wisdom holds -- or whether, as an
increasing number of scholars now believe, its origins lie farther east. One
linguist has recently argued that Yiddish began as a Slavic language that
was "relexified," with most of its vocabulary replaced with German words. "


Also, my previous posting from Colliers Encyclopedia negates your wimpy
comment about *****************************. See comments about
"The term Ashkenaz originally denoted a people and/or country in the
Armenia-Upper Euphrates area (Genesis 10:3; I Chronicles 1:6; Jeremiah
51:27). Scholars have offered varying suggestions as to how the word became
associated with Germany, but in any case Ashkenaz had become established as
the accepted Hebrew term for Germany by the 11th century. At that time, the
Rhineland was the main center of western Jewish culture north of the
Pyrenees. However, the Franco-German Jewry was nearly wiped out by repeated
Christian massacres during the epoch of the Crusades and the Black Death
(12th-14th centuries)"

Here is the entire posting:
******************************.
ASHKENAZIM
( Colliers Encyclopedia CD-ROM , 1996)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

ASHKENAZIM, the Jewries of Germany and Eastern Europe and their
descendants, now substantially the largest segment of the world's Jewish
community. The Ashkenazim originated largely in the Jewish Khazar Empire,
centered in the Volga-Don area of southern Russia. The Khazars fled westward
in several waves as a result of the conquest of their empire and subsequent
barbarian invasions in the 10th-12th centuries a.d. The first Khazar
migrants accompanied the Magyars and settled in Hungary. Subsequent waves
settled in the Polish-Lithuanian lands.


The term Ashkenaz originally denoted a people and/or country in the
Armenia-Upper Euphrates area (Genesis 10:3; I Chronicles 1:6; Jeremiah
51:27). Scholars have offered varying suggestions as to how the word became
associated with Germany, but in any case Ashkenaz had become established as
the accepted Hebrew term for Germany by the 11th century. At that time, the
Rhineland was the main center of western Jewish culture north of the
Pyrenees. However, the Franco-German Jewry was nearly wiped out by repeated
Christian massacres during the epoch of the Crusades and the Black Death
(12th-14th centuries).

A number of rabbis and other educated Jews took refuge from these
persecutions among the largely peasant Jewry of Khazar origin in eastern
Europe. Their religious authority and higher cultural level contributed
powerfully to the Germanization of this community, expressed in its
predominantly Germanic language, Yiddish, which is written in Hebrew
characters and also includes Hebrew and Slavonic elements. Some scholars
have suggested that the term Ashkenazi was already in use as a self-
identification among the Khazar Jewry, because the tenth-century spiritual
leader of Oriental Jewry, Saadiah Gaon, had identified the Khazars with the
biblical Ashkenaz.
Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be94b2$51865440$07a3003e@win95enb>...

Anonymous

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Reuven Singer wrote in message <01be94b3$557f1040$07a3003e@win95enb>...

Anonymous

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Notice that Susan's attempt to refute jewish research by Koestler ( and
company) is quite feeble since her approach is just to say basically "Nope,
you are wrong". Here we go again.
You see, Susan, truth is not esablish that way.
And it doesnt matter how many people say something...everybody used to think
that the world was flat until one man took a stand.
People used to laugh at the Wilbur brother...the very idea that man could
fly! So of course these days, air travel is a common thing.
The point? Please cite some sources!


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BEC9C...@smart.nett>...

Anonymous

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Which proves that you are wrong on both counts.


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BED45...@smart.nett>...
>
>
>Wayne wrote:
>
>> Susan, maybe you didnt read my previous posts? Me, a bigot?
>> HaHahaHahaHAhahahahah!!!
>>
>> I am white, I am married to a Hispanic lady, our child to be born in less
>> than a month will be racially mixed. I have attended synogogues
>> for 4 years, and worked for a Israeli based high-tech firm.
>> get REAL !
>
>Yeah, I believe this the same way I believe that Judaism
>is a race & Askenazi Jews are descended from Khazars!
>
>
>>
>>
>> Susan Cohen wrote in message <37295184...@smart.nett>...
>> >
>> >
>> >Wayne wrote:
>> >
>> >> Susan Cohen wrote in message <3727D8EB...@smart.nett>...
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >Race. Bingo.
>> >>
>> >> Exactly. Thanks for proving Koestler's( and company's) point. :=)
>> >
>> >No, you sleazy little creep, & you know it.
>> >It is the most pathetic trick there is to snip out
>> >the context of a remark & try to pretend that
>> >it means anything other than what it does: in this
>> >case, it was my pointing out that you are a bigot
>> >who wants to "prove" that Judaism is a race for
>> >your own stupidly twisted ends. It won't work.
>> >
>> >
>

Anonymous

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And who do you quote?


Susan Cohen wrote in message <372BEE44...@smart.nett>...


>
>
>Wayne wrote:
>
>> I know what you mean...I find it quite humorous when people quote from
>> Encyclopedia Judaica, as though it is a non-biased , neutral, and
>> objective encylopedia...
>
>Oh, I know what you mean!
>I feel the same way when people quote Kosetler!
>
>>
>>

>> Sara Salzman wrote in message ...

>> >In article <372A3C31...@smart.nett>, Susan Cohen
<ze...@smart.nett>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wayne wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Kevin Brook has written a new book called "The Jews of Khazaria "
which
>> will
>> >> > be in print by April 1999 and available for the general public in
May
>> 1999,
>> >> > if not earlier.
>> >>
>> >> So? And this means what? Lots of stupid, non-factual
>> >> "scientific/historical" books are out there. Most people
>> >> would be amazed by the innaccuracies accepted
>> >> because some "scholar" wrote them.
>> >>
>> >You know, Susan, I once heard a historian on a radio show claim that
mary
>> >Queen of Scots had an incestuous relationship with her son James V
(later
>> >James I of England). I called the station to ask the fellow how this was
>> >possible, since Mary was imprisoned when James was less than 2 years
old,
>> >and subsequently beheaded without ever seeing him again.
>> >

Anonymous

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Koestler is not the only jew with these opinions. More recently, Koestler's
thesis was revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews': A
Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers),by
Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist. Those who wish to
discrdit this try to point out that the publisher is named "Slavica", while
ignoring the fact that Dr. Wexler is an Israeli that works at Tel Aviv
University, where he would surely have been ousted already if his works
could have been disproven.


"The Jews of Khazaria", by Kevin Brook, will be in print by April 1999 and


available for the general public in May 1999, if not earlier.

other ( but not all) sources:

"THE KUZARI: IN DEFENSE OF THE DESPISED FAITH"
By Rabbi Yehuda HaLevi
Translated and annotated by Rabbi N. Daniel Korobkin
Introductions by N. Daniel Korobkin and Kevin A. Brook
ISBN 0-7657-9970-7 (cloth/hardcover)
544 pages, 6" x 9" size, published March 1998

"Karaites in Byzantium: The Formative Years, 970-1100" by Zvi Ankori ( I'm
not sure if claims to be "jewish" or not).

Herbert Zeiden and Daniel Gershenson published two linguistic articles
discussing the Yiddish word davenen and its Turkic or Greek root. These are
summarized in a Khazaria News Bulletin; please contact kbr...@khazaria.com
for a copy of the Bulletin.

Herbert Zeiden afterwards published another article on Yiddish words
and surnames of possible Turkic origin. It is summarized in another
Khazaria News Bulletin; please contact kbr...@khazaria.com
for a copy of the Bulletin.

And there is more to come! Many interesting things
will be taking place in the next two years, including a scholarly conference
on the Khazars in Jerusalem, a museum exhibition on the Khazars in Tel Aviv,
plans to excavate Zakhanata in Kalmykia and search for the lost Khazarian
city of Atil, and much more.


>Anonymous (anon...@anon.remailerz.net) wrote:
>: Yes, checkmate, so Koestler wins. Here is the article from the New York
>: Times which our reader will find quite interesting:
>
>You seem not to have read the article very carefully.
>Nowhere in the article is there any mention of ANY
>Turkic influence in Yiddish - and Koestler is dismissed
>as someone who is "not taken seriously by linguists".
>How that can be called "Koestler wins" I wonder?
>
>
>
>

>: The New York Times - October 29, 1996


>: Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews
>: By GEORGE JOHNSON
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>: Trying to trace the ancient roots of a modern language is always a
>: maddeningly
>: ambiguous and uncertain enterprise.
>
>
>: With Yiddish, the language of the Ashkenazic Jews of Central and Eastern
>: Europe,
>: the task is even harder because of the horrifying fact that most of the
>: speakers
>: were exterminated in the Holocaust.
>
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>: As a result, the study of Yiddish origins -- and especially the touchy
issue
>: of
>: its relationship to German -- has sometimes been criticized as one in
which
>: rational analysis has been overwhelmed by emotion. But a number of recent
>: studies are now being welcomed by linguists as evidence that the field is
>: turning into a solid science.
>
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>: "There are now signs that the history of Yiddish is becoming a scientific
>: enterprise instead of the mythological exercise it used to be," said Dr.
>: Jerrold
>: Sadock, a linguist at the University of Chicago.
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>: By trying to reconstruct the original Yiddish, linguists hope to explain
the

>: origins of this rich language, in which a largely Germanic grammar and


>: vocabulary is mixed with Hebrew and Aramaic, and sprinkled with words
from

>: Slavic and ancient Romance languages.


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>: The question they hope to answer is whether Yiddish began in Western
Europe
>: and
>: spread eastward, as the common wisdom holds -- or whether, as an
increasing
>: number of scholars now believe, its origins lie farther east. One
linguist

>: has

>: sparse. Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that


during
>: the
>: Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western
Europe.
>: These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by
the
>: 17th
>: century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.
>
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>: "You just can't get those numbers by natural population increase," King

>: said. In


>: a paper published in 1992, he argued that the origins of Yiddish were not
in
>: the
>: Rhineland but eastward along the Danube -- in Bavaria and as far east as
>: Hungary
>: and the Czech and Slovak lands. From there, he argues, the language
radiated
>: both westward, into the Rhineland, and eastward into Poland, Lithuania,
>: Latvia
>: and other areas.
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>: King bases his conclusion on work he began in the 1980's with Dr. Alice
>: Faber, a
>: linguist now at Haskins Laboratories in New Haven, Conn. King and Dr.
Faber
>: found no significant similarities between the Yiddish of Eastern Europe
and
>: the

>: dialects of German spoken in the Rhineland. They uncovered a few

>: Arthur Koestler made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by


>: linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that
>: they
>: were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse
to
>: Judaism in medieval times.
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>

>: More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and


expanded
>: in
>: a 1993 book, "The Ashkenazic Jews : A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a
>: Jewish

>: Identity" (Slavica Publishers), by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University


>: linguist.
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>: Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a
Slavic
>: language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going
even
>: further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted
>: Slavs
>: and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the
>: Diaspora.
>
>
>: While few linguists are convinced by this radical hypothesis, the notion
of
>: a
>: Slavic origin for Yiddish is being taken as a serious challenge to the
>: field.
>: "Even if he is not absolutely right," said Jacobs, "we are forced into a
>: discussion of the issues he has raised."
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>

>: In another reconstruction of proto-Yiddish, Dr. Manaster Ramer at Wayne

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