Auschwitz was an Uranium enrichment plant, and _that_ HAD to be covered-up

[Arend Lammertink]

Hi all,


I'd like to introduce the following *hypothesis* in the debate on this forum:


= Auschwitz was an Uranium enrichment plant, which is why =
= some kind of massive cover-up operation has been enacted. =


There is an interesting study about the probable industrial purpose of the Auschwitz plant, which I find rather intriguing. The source I found this story in is Joseph Farrell's "Reich of The Black Sun":

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/reichblacksun/contents.htm

It contains references to Carter P. Hydrick’s "Critical Mass", which strongly suggests Auschwitz was an uranium enrichment facility, which actually produced a significant amount of enriched uranium and without which there would have been no Hiroshima nor Nagasaki:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/atomicbomb/contents.htm

Hydrick analyzed the records on the American Uranium enrichment program and concluded they did not nearly produce enough enriched Uranium needed to produced an a-bomb. He also analyzed the plant at Auschwitz and a/o because they used as much electricity as a city like Berlin, it is tempting to conclude Auschwitz must have been an uranium enrichment plant.

And because after the Americans captured the German u-boat U-234 which appeared to have transported enriched uranium and all of a sudden the US did have enough enriched Uranium which it could not have produced itself, things appear to add up.

I don’t remember all the details, but to me the story made sense at the time I read it. However, I did not go to the archives to check Hydrick’ s claims and neither did Farell, so there it is certainly possible that Hydrick’s claims are bogus. I don’t think so, but it is possible.

If this turns out to be correct, then of course you have stumbled upon a secret that cannot be revealed, even to this day. But, if true, it would give you a clear motive for a massive cover-up operation, in whatever shape or form that might have been enacted.


What is very interesting in addition to the earlier material, is that Joseph Farrell posted some additional info on this story in 2011, more than ten years after Hydricks publication:

http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/07/nazi-nuclear-waste-found-in-abandoned-mine/

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Just when you thought the postwar Allied Legend of Nazi nuclear incompetence was safe and secure, yet another odd story crops up to add to the growing body of evidence suggesting that the Allied Legend is just that, a legend, a fabrication, a misdirection to prevent people from examining the end of World War Two in Europe too closely:

= Nazi nuclear waste from Hitler’s secret A-bomb programme found in mine =

This article is intriguing to me in two respects, the first being that it is a bit late – as far as major tabloid press is concerned – to get into the game, for the stories of the Nazi atom bomb tests at Ruegen and Ohrdruf began to be seriously researched and discussed in Germany by German researchers not only earlier in this decade, but the last decade. This was supplemented by Carter Hydrick’s wonderful study Critical Mass, a study that in my opinion was so good that it had to be trashed by reviewers (which it was), because the story it contained was so stupendous. According to Hydrick, the Nazi nuclear program involved, at the minimum, a huge uranium enrichment program, and that program was probably successful to the point that the Nazis had enriched, to varying degrees of purity, uranium 235, and some of it was probably of fissile-weapons grade quality, and that uranium, if not the actual bomb design or functioning bombs themselves, made their way into the Manhattan project, making our early success possible (remember, we weren’t supposed to have enough u-235 for a functioning bomb until November 1945 according to Ernst Oppenheimer).

The second thing that intrigues me about this article is the clear implication of modern researchers now finding, 2000 feet below ground in an abandoned mine, barrels of nuclear waste. This is highly significant, for waste implies exactly what Carter Hydrick argued, namely, that the Nazi program was not the haphazard, hit-and-miss, p0orly coordinated laboratory affair that got no further than a few clumsy attempts by Heisenberg to build a reactor, but rather, its enrichment program was a huge concern, highly organized, and processing isotopes to a degree similar to, if not exceeding, the Manhattan project in its sheer size.
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It refers to this article from July 2011:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014146/Nazi-nuclear-waste-Hitlers-secret-A-bomb-programme-mine.html

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German nuclear experts believe they have found nuclear waste from Hitler’s secret atom bomb programme in a crumbling mine near Hanover.

More than 126,000 barrels of nuclear material lie rotting over 2,000 feet below ground in an old salt mine.

Rumour has it that the remains of nuclear scientists who worked on the Nazi programme are also there, their irradiated bodies burned in secret by S.S. men sworn to secrecy.

A statement by a boss of the Asse II nuclear fuel dump, just discovered in an archive, said how in 1967 'our association sank radioactive wastes from the last war, uranium waste, from the preparation of the German atom bomb.'

This has sent shock waves through historians who thought that the German atomic programme was nowhere near advanced enough in WW2 to have produced nuclear waste in any quantities.
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So, it seems to me there is lots of material to investigate and discuss on this matter.


Given the debate about what evidence actually exists for homicidal gas chambers that I have looked trough (a/o in the thread on photographs of "WW2 era Gas chambers" and "David Cole in Auschwitz" with the statement of the director of the Auschwitz museum that the gas chamber shown to tourists in Auschwitz is a post-war *reconstruction*), it saddens me to have to say that I cannot conclude otherwise than that:

There is reason to believe Auschwitz was an Uranium enrichment facility which produced a critical part of the enriched Uranium used in the bombs dropped on Japan and that the hard evidence I have seen so far for the existence of homicidal gas chambers leaves room for interpretation. Therefore, one needs to consider the *possibility* that this particular piece of the Auschwitz history was in fact propaganda in order to hide the true nature of the nuclear capabilities Germany had developed in a/o Auschwitz.


In other words: I have not reached any final conclusions, but I do seriously fear that the truth may turn out to be extremely hard to swallow. But whatever may come, remember this:

http://bible.cc/john/8-32.htm

> And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


I wish everybody on this planet a merry christmas and a very happy 2013!

-- Arend Lammertink--
-- http://www.tuks.nl/


For what it's worth: I do not believe in a Jewish conspiracy in any way, shape or form.

I believe in a Vatican-centered conspiracy, the "trinity", and it's more than time for the people of this planet to take their freedom back from the criminal cabal that brought us a/o fractional reserve banking by (re)declaring their independence under common law:

http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/index.php/Main/TheFascinatingHistoryOfCivilLawVersusDivineCommonLaw

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Found some additional info here:
http://codoh.com/library/document/1759

Some details definitly suggest the existence of an a-bomb program and the testing thereof:

"the area behind Lake Röhren lit up like as though a hundred lightning bolts had struck"

And of the transporting of Uranium by submarine:

"Most importantly, U-234, after it surrendered to the United States Navy when the war ended, was found to carry some 560 kilograms of uranium oxide in its cargo."


An excerpt:

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A Soviet intelligence report Karlsch introduces, submitted to Stalin on March 23, 1945 by Kurchatov, the head of the Soviet Nuclear Bomb Program, on the initiative of the head of military intelligence (GRU) in Germany, Lieutenant General Il’ichëv, reads:

“Just recently, the Germans detonated two massive explosions in a wooded area of Thuringia under the greatest secrecy. Trees at a distance of 500 to 600 meters were knocked down. Prisoners used in the experiment were killed, often no remains were found. Others suffered facial and body burns. A strong shock wave and high temperatures accompanied the bomb detonations. The bombs were spherical in shape and had a diameter of 130 cm.”

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Eyewitness accounts of the event include statements by a worker who helped cremate those who perished on improvised pyres right on the test site, comments made by Werner Grothmann, Himmler’s adjutant (the tests were run under the supervision of the SS), as well as the following graphic statement by Cläre Werner, who witnessed the test from the heights of the Wachsenburg:

“I can still remember the day very well. It was March 4, 1945. We had scheduled a birthday party for that evening, but it was cancelled. In the afternoon the BDM [Federation of German Girls] of Gotha was on the mountain. Hans was also there to help out and told us that world history would be written today in this area. It would be something the world had never seen before. We were to go on the mountain that evening and look off in the direction of Lake Röhren. He didn’t know himself what the new thing would look like. So we were on the site at 8 PM. At half past 9 PM the area behind Lake Röhren lit up like as though a hundred lightning bolts had struck. It was red inside and yellow on the outside. You could read the newspaper by the light. It all happened very quickly and we couldn’t see anything except what sounded like a squall, after which everything was quiet. I, like many inhabitants from Lake Röhren, Holzhausen, Mühlberg, Wechmar and Bittstädt had nose bleeds, headaches, and felt pressure on the ear, the next day. At about 2 PM there were about 100-150 SS-men on the mountain. They asked where the bodies were, where they were taken, and who was there. We didn’t know anything and they asked us if they were here in the ‘Burg Object.’ I told them they were on the Veste Wachsenburg, which the people always call the Burg (mountain). A motorcyclist reported that the Burg could be reached via Ringhofen. Then the cars drove from the Burg to Mühlberg. I saw that from there they drove to the test area.”

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In mid-April 1945 the German transport and minelayer submarine U-234, also referred to as an undersea aircraft carrier, was deployed by the German High Command to Japan carrying examples of the latest high-tech German developments in armaments (radar, jet engines, Henschel HS-293 glider bombs, Me-262 jet fighters, a V2 rocket, etc.) for use by its Japanese ally. Most importantly, U-234, after it surrendered to the United States Navy when the war ended, was found to carry some 560 kilograms of uranium oxide in its cargo. Western analysts have speculated as to its intended use in Japan. Some think it was to support Japan’s own nuclear program, others speculate that it was for the production of synthetic methanol used in aviation fuel, but others have suggested that perhaps it was intended for the production of “dirty” bombs (atomic material combined with conventional explosives) by the Japanese to be dropped over the U. S Pacific coast.

Although the U-234 also carried German civilian engineers and scientists, none are said to have been specialists in nuclear matters. The contents of the documents seized on the U-234 have not been made public.
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I believe this hypothesis puts the whole gas chamber debate in a completely different perspective, because if it is true that Auschwitz was an Uranium enrichment facility and the existence of homicidal gas chambers at *Auschwitz* indeed is propaganda for the purpose of hiding the true nature of Germany's nuclear capabilities as well as the dependence of the US nuclear program on the production at Auschwitz, then there is a very important factor to consider regarding the research of this subject:


*** One has to evaluate *all* evidence from the assumption that all of it may have been "screened" and/or planted by one of the secret services involved in the operation covering-up the nuclear story. ***


Of course, the possible consequences of this hypothesis are staggering and, if it turns out to be true, will be extremely hard to swallow for a lot of people. Yet, I think we need to know the truth and that is why I dear to propose this hypothesis.

I really can't draw any conclusions on this subject other than that it is a *possibility* that should be properly investigated and then either proven or disproven, which is simply too big a task for someone to perform on his own.

-- Arend --

[Arend Lammertink]

For those that don't have the time to read the whole books, an excerpt from Joseph Farrell:

http://www.combatreform.org/black_sun.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/reichblacksun/chapter02.htm

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Disaster notwithstanding, the huge synthetic rubber and gasoline plants were completed, after 300,000 concentration camp workers had passed through the corporations construction mills. 25,000 of these inmates were simply and cruelly worked to death from exhaustion. The plants themselves were nothing less than gigantic. So gigantic, in fact, that "they used more electricity than the entire city of Berlin."

During the war crimes tribunals, however, it was not this gruesome catalogue of facts about the plant that puzzled the Allied prosecutors. What puzzled them was that, in spite of such an enormous investment of lives, money, and material, "not a single pound of Buna was ever produced"9 The Farben directors and managers in the docks were almost obsessively insistent on this point. More electricity than the entire city of Berlin - the eighth largest in the world at that time - to produce absolutely nothing? If this was true, then the enormous outlay of capital and labor and the huge electrical consumption contributed nothing significant to the German war effort whatsoever. Needless to say, there is something very wrong with this picture.

None of it made sense then, none of it makes sense now, unless of course the plant was not a Buna plant at all...

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Von Ardenne himself is a mysterious figure, for after the war he was one of the few German scientists to deliberately opt to cooperate with the Soviet Union rather than the Western Allies. His contribution to the Soviet acquisition of the atomic bomb in 1949 was to earn him the "Stalin Prize" in 1955, the Soviet equivalent to the Nobel Prize. He was the only non-Russian and non-Soviet ever to win the prize.

In any case, Von Ardenne's work, plus that of the other German scientists working on separation and enrichment - Bagge, Korsching, Harteck and Houtermanns - indicates one thing: that there was a sound and solid basis in Allied wartime estimations of German progress and capabilities, for they were, in mid-1942, running a dead heat with the Manhattan Project, and were not "far behind" as the post-war Allied Legend would subsequently have us believe.

So what is the likely scenario, as it has emerged thus far? What conclusions may be drawn?

(1) There were several German bomb and enrichment projects, compartmentalized to maintain security, perhaps being coordinated by some as yet or hitherto unknown entity. In any case, it appears that one such serious program was at least nominally being coordinated by the Deutsche Reichspost under its chief, Dr. Ing. Wilhelm Ohnesorge;

(2) The most significant enrichment and separation projects were not being conducted by Heisenberg or his circle, or for that matter, by any of the more "high profile" German scientists, save perhaps Harteck and Diebner. This suggests that perhaps the more famous scientists were being used as "fronts" and being kept out of the loop of the most serious and significant technological achievements as a matter of security. Had they been involved in such efforts and then subsequently kidnapped or assassinated by the Allies - a thought that certainly occurred to the OSS - then the German program would have been severely crippled and exposed;

(3) At least three German technologies were arguably more efficient and technologically advanced than their American counterparts:

(a) Bagge and Korsching's "isotope sluice";
(b) Harteck's centrifuges and ultra-centrifuges;
(c) Von Ardenne's modified cyclotrons, the "Ardenne source";

(4) At least one known facility was large enough in terms of its physical size, labor requirements, and electrical consumption, to have conceivably been sued as a large separation facility, the I.G. Farben "Buna plant" at Auschwitz. The case is strong because:

(a) No Buna was ever produced there in spite of thousands of scientists, technicians, engineers, contract and slave laborers working there;
(b) The site was close to the uranium ore fields of the Czech and German Sudentenland, being located in Polish Silesia;
(c) The site was close to plentiful water supplies, also needed in isotope enrichment;
(d) It was close to rail and road networks;
(e) It was close to plentiful (slave) labor;
(f) And finally -though not yet discussed - it was close to several large underground secret weapons production and research facilities in lower Silesia, and was close to one of the two alleged test sites of German atom bomb tests during the war;


(5) it may reasonably be assumed, in addition to the "Buna factory", that the Germans constructed smaller facilities in the area for separation and enrichment of isotope, using the Buna plant's production as feedstock for these other facilities.[27]

To round out this unpleasant picture, one must also mention two further interesting facts: Von Ardenne's close associate and theoretical mentor, Dr. Fritz Houtermanns' specialty was thermonuclear fusion, indeed as an astrophysicist, he had staked his claim to fame in physics by describing precisely the type of nuclear process at work in stars. Interestingly enough, there does exist, from 1938, an Austrian patent for a device known as a "Molecular Bomb," a bomb that upon examination is an early version of a hydrogen bomb. Atomic bombs, of course, supply the necessary heat to get hydrogen atoms to collide and produce the much more enormous and terrible energies of thermonuclear hydrogen fusion bombs.

Secondly, it may now clearly be seen why, of all the German scientists working on the atom bomb, that Manfred Von Ardenne was the one nuclear scientist that Adolf Hitler most often went personally to visit.

In any case, all the evidence points to the conclusion that there was a large, very well-funded, and very secret German isotope enrichment program during the war, a program successfully disguised during the war by the Nazis, and covered-up after war by the Allied Legend. But this too raises its own questions. How close was that program to acquiring sufficient stocks of weapons grade uranium to make a bomb (or bombs). And secondly, why did the Allies after the war go to such stupendous lengths to cover it up?

As a final note to this chapter, and a tantalizing indication of further mysteries that will be investigated subsequently in this work, there is a report, declassified by the National Security Agency only in 1978; the report is apparently a decoded intercept from the Japanese embassy in Stockholm to Tokyo. It is entitled simply "Reports on the Atom-Splitting Bomb."

It is best to cite its amazing contents in their entirety, with their original breaks where they occurred in the text for transmission:

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This bomb is revolutionary in its results, and it will completely upset all ordinary precepts of warfare hitherto established. I am sending you, in one group, all those reports on what is called the atom-splitting bomb:

It is a fact that in June of 1943 the German Army tried out an utterly new type of weapon against the Russians at a location 150 kilometers southeast of Kursk. Although it was the entire 19th Infantry Regiment of the Russians which was thus attacked, only a few bombs (each round up to 5 kilograms) sufficed to utterly wipe them out to the last man.

Part 2. The following is according to a statement by Lieutenant-Colonel UE(?) I KENJI, advisor to the attaché in Hungary and formerly (?on duty?) in this country, who by chance saw the actual scene immediately after the above took place:

"All the men and the horses (?within the area of?) the explosion of the shells were charred black and even their ammunition had all been detonated. "

Moreover, it is a fact that the same type of war material was tried out in the Crimea, too. At that time the Russians claimed that this was poison-gas, and protested that if Germany were ever again to use it, Russia, too, would use poison-gas.

Part 3. There is also the fact that recently in London - in the period between October and the 15th of November - the loss of life and the damage to business buildings through fires of unknown origin was great. It is clear, judging especially by the articles about a new weapon of this type, which have appeared from time to time recently in British and American magazines - that even our enemy has already begun to study this type.

To generalize on the basis of all these reports: I am convinced that the most important technical advance in the present great war is in the realization of the atom-splitting bomb. Therefore, the central authorities are planning, through research on this type of weapon, to speed up the matter of rendering the weapon practical. And for my part, I am convinced of the necessity for taking urgent steps to effect this end.

Part 4. The following are the facts I have learned regarding its technical data:

Recently the British authorities warned their people of the possibility that they might undergo attacks by German atom-splitting bombs. The American military authorities have likewise warned that the American east coast might be the area chosen for a blind attack by some sort of flying bomb. It was called the German V-3. To be specific, this device is based on the principle of the explosion of the nuclei of the atoms in heavy hydrogen derived from heavy water. (Germany has a large plant (?for this?) in the vicinity of Rjukan, Norway, which has from time to time been bombed by English planes.).

Naturally, there have been plenty of examples even before this of successful attempts at smashing individual atoms. However, as far as the demonstration of any practical results is concerned, they seem not to have been able to split large numbers of atoms in a single group. That is, they require for the splitting of each single atom a force that will disintegrate the electron orbit.

Part 5. On the other hand, the stuff that the Germans are using has, apparently, a very much greater specific gravity than anything heretofore used. In this connection, allusions have been made to SIRIUS and stars of the "White Dwarf" group. (Their specific gravity is (?6?) 1 thousand, and the weight of one cubic inch is 1 ton.)

In general, atoms cannot be compressed into the nuclear density. However, the terrific pressures and extremes of temperature in the "White Dwarfs" cause the bursting of the atoms and A-GENSHI HAKAI DAN. That is, a bomb deriving its force from the release of atomic energy.

Part 6. There are, moreover, radiations from the exterior of these stars composed of what is left of the atoms which are only the nuclei, very small in volume.

According to the English newspaper accounts, the German atom- splitting device is the NEUMAN disintegrator. Enormous energy is directed into the central part of the atom and this generates at atomic pressure of several tons of thousands of tons (sic) per square inch. This device can split the relatively unstable atoms of such elements as uranium. Moreover, it brings into being a store of explosive atomic energy

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The end of this amazing intercept then reads "Inter 12 Dec 44 (1,2) Japanese; Rec'd 12 Dec 44; Trans 14 Dec 44 (3020-B)," apparently references to when the message was intercepted by American intelligence, its original language (Japanese), when the message was received, when it was translated (14 Dec 44), and by whom (3020- B).29



29 Edgar Mayer and Thomas Mehner, Hitler und die ,,Bombe" (Rottenburg: Kopp Verlag, 2002), pp. 110-114, emphasis added, citing "Stockholm to Tokyo, No. 232.9 December 1944 (War Department), National Archives, RG 457, SRA 14628-32, declassified October 1, 1978.
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http://benjaminfulford.net/2012/12/17/the-world-will-not-end-this-friday-december-21st-2012-but-it-almost-did/#comment-186671


"To round out this unpleasant picture, one must also mention two further interesting facts: Von Ardenne’s close associate and theoretical mentor, Dr. Fritz Houtermanns’ specialty was thermonuclear fusion, indeed as an astrophysicist, he had staked his claim to fame in physics by describing precisely the type of nuclear process at work in stars. Interestingly enough, there does exist, from 1938, an Austrian patent for a device known as a “Molecular Bomb,” a bomb that upon examination is an early version of a hydrogen bomb. Atomic bombs, of course, supply the necessary heat to get hydrogen atoms to collide and produce the much more enormous and terrible energies of thermonuclear hydrogen”

-> has this been seeded from Some secret society? The Jesuits, perhaps had they been peeping in unbelievably ancient scriptures? The ones that describe “vimana” and the description of an ancient atomic weapon, which we know was used in India thousands of years ago?


If not, how on Earth can there be a 1938 Austrian patent describing a Hydrogen bomb?


– Arend –


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For all the info you could possibly want on the Jesuits and more:

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

He is perhaps extreme in some of his views, just like Micha Kat, but there are certainly interesting truths to be found also.


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On my site, you can read:

http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/index.php/Main/TheFascinatingHistoryOfCivilLawVersusDivineCommonLaw

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Conclusions
In this article, we found some fascinating links between Biblical prophecy and real, hard evidence about the nature of the Vatican as an institute, linking it not only to the legal framework the nations of the world currently operate under, but also to secret societies like the Jesuits and the Freemasons. While it is unclear what the influence of these secret societies is, it is clear that the Vatican up to this day claims to own the whole world and that (most) nations up to this day operate under it’s jurisdiction as vassal states, including the United States of America with their corporate Washington government.

However, the history of the United States and the two republics that preceded it, the French and Dutch Batavian Republics, reveal that there is a way nations can liberate themselves from the legal system operating under the jurisdiction and sovereignty of the Vatican, which comes down to declaring their independence under common law, the law system that operates directly under the authority and sovereignty of free people.

That way, a new legal entity is created, which does not only liberate the people of a nation, but also gets rid of the debt of such a nation, because that debt consists of liabilities by ANOTHER legal entity, ANOTHER legal entity operating under the responsibility of the Vatican.

And that gives us a solution of not only the problem of people basically being enslaved by their own government, but also gives us an opportunity to make a transition to a new, free and above all peaceful society. There is no doubt in my mind that Drake and Bill Brockbrader (who has been arrested, btw) know what they are talking about when they say that the wars they have been fighting in, were fought for no other reason than for making someone large profits:
And of course, we can find this pattern all trough history. For example, we know who financed Hitler and the Bolsheviks:

We also have very good reasons to believe Auschwitz was an uranium enrichtment facility, without which the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would not have been possible, and we know who profited from this all the way up to the “highest circles” in The Netherlands (have been interviewed (mp3) by John Loftus on this matter), which may possibly also include (circles around) the former German Kaiser Wilhelm, even though this last connection is highly speculative. And we know how the Muslim Brotherhood, the Nazis and Al-Qaeda fit into the picture. And once again, there appear to be connections to the Vatican both in Vietnam as well as in WW-II. And of course, it is well known that the Vatican operated the so called ratlines after WW-II.
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Now since the Dutch Royal Family profited from the slave labor at Auschwitz, along with the Bush Family, perhaps her Royal Higness would like to explain publicly that using slave labor for the production of weapen-grade Uranium for the Jesuits, who planned to attack Japan with an ancient Indian atomic weapon they knew about, really was much more profitable than running homicidal gas chambers.


Bernhard zou wel zeggen: “anders loopt de wiedergutmachung zo op.”

Merry Christmas!

S/

Derk met den Beer.

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There has recently been an interview on Coast to Coast about a German Atomic bomb:

https://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Doug-Dietrich-on-C2C-German-A-Bomb
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/11/13

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The Germans also had developed a nuclear bomb, and fired an atomic warhead in Estonia, "that stopped the Soviets cold; a mushroom cloud that was a full kilometer in diameter with continuous internalization of combustion led to electronic interference with instruments all the way back in London," he detailed. Commenting on why the American public had never learned of these bombings, he said you're only "told enough of the truth to uphold the lie." Dietrich also spoke about Emperor Hirohito's usage of biological weapons, and submarines. In the first hour, he reported on abuse and Satanism that took place at the Presidio base when he worked there in the 1980s
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Appears to be in line with the intercepted Japanese cable...

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As for atomic explosions in ancient India, see for example:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ancientatomicwar/esp_ancient_atomic_12.htm

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Rajasthan: Evidence of Ancient Atomic Explosion

Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous.

A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region.

Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.


A Historian Comments
Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that "Indian sacred writings" are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons.

An ancient battle is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata.

"The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees," says Ganguli.

"Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people's hair falling out."
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http://rense.com/general3/8000.htm
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Archeologist Francis Taylor says that etchings in some nearby temples he has managed to translate suggest that they prayed to be spared from the great light that was coming to lay ruin to the city. "It's so mid-boggling to imagine that some civilization had nuclear technology before we did. The radioactive ash adds credibility to the ancient Indian records that describe atomic warfare."
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/esp_mohenjo_daro_1.htm
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For David Davenport, an English of Indian origins, expert of Sanskrit, a thermonuclear explosion isn't a far hypothesis at all. The description of the immense power of such a weapon were contained in the Mahabharata, section Drona Parva, describing a weapon called "Agneya":

it was like a shiny rocket whose heat burned the world like a fever. Then, cold winds, cardinal points became clear and lightful.

Looking at the burned walls, the second possibility seems the right one. In fact, Indra lead a cruel invasion.


In the Rigveda, it's written:

"devast the strong ones like time tears the clothes."

Everybody was slaughtered in loco. The final touch was a sudden holocaust of fire. Davenport came back from Pakistan with some sample remains from the city. The CNR lead a serious analysis that amazed the researchers: the objects brought by him appeared to be fused, glassified by a heat as high as 1500°C, followed by a sudden cooling.

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David Davenport (1996), who spent 12 years studying ancient Hindu scripts and evidence at the ancient site of Mohenjo-Daro, declared in 1996 that the city was instantly destroyed around 2,000 BC. The city ruins reveal the explosion’s epicenter which measures 50 yards wide.

At that location everything was crystallized, fused or melted. Sixty yards from the center the bricks were melted on one side indicating a blast… the horrible mysterious event of 4000 years ago was recorded in the Mahabharata. According to that text,

“white hot smoke that was a thousand times brighter than the sun rose in infinite brilliance and reduced the city to ashes. Water boiled…horses and war chariots were burned by the thousands…the corpses of the fallen were mutilated by the terrible heat so that they no longer looked like human beings…”

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Look like I'm about the only non-algo real human on this group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.revisionism/WlQg4R7Quns

Are the day talking HFT algos literally the only ones left in this place?

Deja vu:

http://www.silverdoctors.com/are-the-day-trading-hft-algos-literally-the-only-ones-left-in-the-silver-market/
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/are-the-day-trading-hft-algos-literally-the-only-ones-left-in-the-silver-market-2453364.html
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Are the day trading HFT algos literally the only ones left in the silver market?


If the first three days of this week are any indication, the HFT algo day trading bots are literally the only traders left in the silver futures market. We understand we’re in the dog-days of summer, the Olympics just ended, but my goodness, has NO-ONE added a single long term long or short in silver this week?

Check out Kitco’s price chart for Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday’s price action in silver.

Monday’s price action is the light blue (Aug 13), Tuesday’s is the red line (Aug 15) and Wednesday’s is the green line (Aug 15).
Notice how despite ranging intra-day from $28.20 to $27.48, and big moves (2 raids and 1 pop) precisely on the COMEX open each day, price has converged to exactly $27.83 at the Globex close every single day this week?

Last week Jeffery Christian of the CPM group was begging for an example of manipulation in the silver markets.
While we already obliged Mr. Christian with enough evidence to make GATA proud, this week’s Globex close price action in silver is either the most blatantly obvious case of cartel manipulation and control that can be witnessed in a market, or else there is literally not a single speculator or hedger remaining in the silver futures market.

There can be no other valid conclusions. If silver had merely closed consecutive days at the exact same price we could chalk it up to coincidence. Three consecutive days with massive raids or smashes occurring precisely upon the COMEX open, followed by 3 consecutive IDENTICAL GLOBEX closes of $27.83 cannot possibly be a c0incidence.
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I just can't help wonder why I have the feeling of talking to algos on this thread, spreading hatred. And I wonder who operates these algos and why?

Merry Christmas!

Looking forward to the debate, fellows. :)


Namaste!

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And now, we wait:

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It makes sense on many levels.