attention doc.tony
Heinrich
Doc Tony
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNi5256dhvM
I'm well familiar with Roland Freisler and have much film [and DVD]
material on him. In fact, the clip you reference, and you can look this
up in the archives, more than once in satires [especially with some of
the 'yarns' as related by Kurt "alte Puppe�" Knoll], I've used the exact
wordage including Freisler's 'vocalization' when I had 'Kurt' "appear"
before Freisler, to wit, "Sie sind, jaaaaaaaa, ein sch�������-biger
LUMP!" [sic -- with vocalization -- Roland Freisler].
Among others, I taught the subject [History of the 1933-45 NSDAP Era]
both in the USA and in Germany itself when I lived there.
Doc Tony
;-)
Heinrich
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see i knew you could do it, short stories instead of those long ones.
keep up the goord work my friend
Doc Tony
You must have Gord McFee on your mind with that 'goord' thing! In some
defense, the other day you simply cited a news piece and I commented on
it with regard to the 7 Muslims refusing to stand for the UK judge. I
simply cited the words of the judge and the words of the defense counsel
but showing the 'fatal flaw' in defense counsel's comment since the
defendants [or at least the two Muslims he was representing] were 'not'
in a Muslim country. Not to mention their, in fact, 'quickly' getting
off their behinds IN Muslim nations when certain Mullahs and Imam types
enter the room as a matter of respect.
As for length, a matter of choice, both for the writer who does so, like
myself or, for that matter Eugene, who is no slouch as to length, but
then too the reader has the option to simply, shall we say, click off!
Further, there are folks like yourself who greatly economize what they
have to say but, well, it then becomes a matter of substance and what
they have to offer. In 'your' case, Heinrich, the Holland canals and
"jews and iceskating" [sic] thing and many, MANY others, of your public
wares essentially speaks for itself. I still advise you to go the
revisionist tag-team route! If [for a time anyway] "Papagei�" Ebe [AR
nym 'Jonannes von Ebersdorf] and Kurt "alte Puppe�" Knoll, ET AL , could
do it, and in fact 'did' do it then, hey, so can you! As I keep trying
to explain to you, Heinrich, what do you have to lose that isn't already
long gone!
Doc Tony
;-)
Goyko Mittich: [it just slips out!]: "Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhahahahhha
[immediately stops!], Oh, hey, Heinrich, nothing personal, man!
Hahahahaha."
/:=| [doing his Ralph Kramden 'Chef of the Future' impression!]:
"HA-HAHHHHHHH!"
;-)
Heinrich
you have to explain the revisionist team tag route to me because it is not
quite clear to me
i made a typing error i should have typed keep up the good work instead of
the goord work, sorry
Doc Tony
Not a 'bit' of it! Everyone in Usenet makes typos, everyone! The 'goord'
thing was merely a handy typo to mention Gord McFee and this is a guy
who I know for some 13 years in AR. We've had some ups and downs along
the way but as I've always said, a cyber friendship of 'that' duration
[1997-2010] without any disagreements or opinion variations whatsoever
would, IMO, and I'll immediately add in 'any' long-term friendship,
would smack of not a friendship but rather a transparent and boring
sycophancy of the first chop.
Anyway, as for the tag-team thing: This term became popular in what some
term the "athletic exhibition" [sic-- Vince McMahon] of American TV
wrestling. It's bogus from the core but certain types love it. Four guys
in the ring with two as "partners" against the other two 'partners'
although only 2 wrestlers were allowed in the ring at one time and then
would 'tag' each other [if they could] and the other guy would take
over. The farce included a lead 'string' where the wrestler could
stretch to touch the hand of the other wrestling partner and then take
over although the thing usually degenerated into a free for all. Funny,
I always think of the 50's wrestler nym, one Karl Von Hess, when Kurt
showed up in AR at least in terms of Von Hess/Knoll antics!
Soooooooo, what you do, Heinrich, is join up with one of the
revisionists and simply 'echo' what he has to say and yea-bray [agree]
as Emil "Monocle Man�" M�ller used to do for his AR mentor, the one, the
only, Crackpot� Freddy Berg. Or, Al "not personally involved�" Smith and
his tag-team 'partner', Neil "Rewriteman�" Harrington. Or, from Oz way,
Ben "Chameleon�" Cramer and his good cobber, Ross "Gasbag�" Cummins. For
you, I would recommend the nym Benji:s Doppelganger for you -IF- he ever
shows up again ==or== perhaps getting in there and commenting on the
revisionist hauls and 'loads' [!] of Alex "Muleschlep�" Vangel. There
are various possibilities.
The worse thing you could do tho' is lose your cool! This only compounds
matters and makes you come off even worse than you began! In effect,
Heinrich, you would be probably be better [!?] in a revisionist
'supportive' versus revisionist 'lead' role. Look what happens to Al
"not personally involved�" Smith when he ventures into AR without a
tag-team partner. A few posts and he forthwith goes down the tubes as
the newsgroup recently witnessed when Al's 'rebuttal' was to call any
and all opposition to his wares as "pathetic fu***" [sic] which, at that
point, was de facto an automatic loss and bowl flusher at the get-go.
Retorts should be thought out, satirical or otherwise, versus, shall we
say, whizzed out and/or barfed away.
And there you have it, Heinrich.
Doc Tony
;-)
"From the AR Vault!�"
Crackpot� Freddy Berg [from his website!]: "What is needed is a world
revolution where the world should rise up against the Jews, the Islamic
types, the Christians [!] and 'crackpot revisionists' [sic -- Berg]
[...] people should be grateful to Adolf Hitler who by 'striking first'
[!] before being attacked by the Soviet Union saved western civilization
for all mankind!" [sic -- Crackpot� Freddy Berg]
Emil "Monocle Man�" M�ller [doing a Berg 'echo' posting!] : "The German
word "Sonderbehandlung" ["special handling"] when directly applied to
the Jews in the KZ's or occupied territories 'could just as easily
translate to mean' [!] ... 'special accommodations' [!] for Jewish
VIPs." [sic]
;-)
Doc Tony
> showed up in AR at least in terms of von Hess/Knoll antics!
>
To 'X' -- are you kidding? As a kid living in Queens during that great
era of the 50's, I 'saw' the guy and others at the now defunct
"Sunnyside Gardens" in Queens. On Friday nights, as I recall, the
'wrestling matches' and their wrestling "card" line-ups were televised I
think on either Channel 5 or 9. Of note, 'Karl von Hess' [born 1919 in
Michigan and Hungarian by extraction , true name, one Frank Fakerty or
Faketty and raised in Omaha, Nebraska] made it to age ==90== and died on
August 12 of 2009. He was always the 'bad guy' either solo or in
tag-team and one of his shticks which would infuriate the crowd [recall
-- this was the early to mid 50'sand not that long after the "Big One"
ended in Europe and the Pacific] was to first sucker punch the
'opposition' and then offer a hand-shake 'complete' with a Nazi salute!
The crowd went ballistic! But here's one for you -- does the moniker
"Haystacks Calhoun" ring a bell!
Doc Tony
;-)
Doc Tony
>> [!] before being attacked by the Soviet Union saved western civilization
>> for all mankind!" [sic -- Crackpot� Freddy Berg]
>>
Corrected up above as Crackpot� Freddy Berg wrote, to wit, "...
eternally grateful ... " So corrected.
What's that? The 'formula' is actually quite simple: Take what comes
into AR [or, all too often, 'floats' [!] in !] that purports to refute
the 'world' majority consensus on the historical presence of the
Holocaust and simply dissect, satirically or otherwise, what alleged
"evidence" is put on the table in the revisionist alleged 'refutation'
of said world majority consensus. Often, indeed, far too often, the
"evidence" is so outrageous that it actually can be satiric sounding in
itself! I mean 'that' literally 'off the wall' and not just limited to
revisionist "evidence" that deals with such AR revisionist classics as
"historical seances" [sic -- "Seance�" Morghus] or "they [the Jews] were
all placed on some island somewhere for their own safety and well being
during the war years" [sic -- Chris "some island somewhere�" Carpenter]
to one gem I quoted where at a "It Never Happened!�" wesbite haunt BBS,
one of the denizens came out with, "It is no secret that many Jews got
out of Germany well before the war and took a boat to Israel!" [sic] Did
you catch that? 'Before' the war, a la 'before' September 1, "1939" and
this revisionist writer is claiming "many Jews" simply "took a boat to
Israel.. ." To ISRAEL, mind you! PRE 9-1-39! Nine years [at least in
'39] before it was even established in 1948!
The other "evidence" [!] ranging from "Ball Bearings in a Box" [sic --
Tom "Ball Bearings in a Box�" Moran] to "most Jews hiding in
Switzerland" [! -- Stormfront website] to "Jews living happily and rich
in the Bronx, USA" [sic -- Benjamin Freedman] to you-name-it yet when
'called' to 'support' the alleged "evidence", the beating of feet begins
forthwith. All I do is create a satirical framework for this "It Never
Happened!�" purported "evidence" and expose it for what it is. I can't
count the times I've done a satire but which incorporate ACTUAL
revisionist "evidence" or ACTUAL revisionist 'sic' comment supposedly
'against' the historical presence of the Holocaust and some readers
believe I am or simply 'must' be 'conjuring' the material within the
satire so that I am actually forced to use the common 'sic' or "as
written" notation within the satire to inform readers that this 'IS'
what was presented by various revisionists as their "evidence" against
the Holocaust. Not to mention some revisionist comment that is soooooo
far off the wall as to defy belief! Need I mention such well known AR
gems as "No, the holocaust is not about history, it is about a
Ukrainian Sausage" [sic -- Kurt "alte Puppe�" Knoll] or "Zyklon B was
the salvation of the Jewish people!" [sic -- Crackpot� Freddy Berg] or
"It cold be argued that many of the NSDAP speeches and the wordage used
especially in dealing with the Jews was merely meant to be jocular [!]
in nature!" [sic -- Richard "Im Dienst der Bewegung�" Mileski] or one of
my particular favorites, "Well, I would question, Your Honour, what an
engineering degree is." [sic -- Freddy Leuchter]. And other perjurer
porkies by Freddy Leuchter in his alleged "expert witness" [cough-cough]
testimony for Zundel.
And on and on and on it goes.
Doc Tony
;-)
An on 'still' .... but further FACT, not satire!
[as translated from the German] : "Sylvia Stolz, Herr Richter [**
Richter means 'Judge' in German akin to the English usages of Your Honor
or Your Lordship], appearing as part of defense counsel for ... [here it
comes.....] "citizen of the German Reich, Ernst Zundel" [sic] With an
insane 'intro' like that in a German court of law TODAY, I mean, hey,
with 'friends' or in fact 'defense counsel' like that, Zundel didn't
need any enemies! Whew! Interesting tho' that none other than "Papagei�"
Ebe [AR nym 'Johannes von Ebersdorf'] BACKS Sylvia Stolz -- is it any
wonder then why "Papagei�" Ebe wants today's Germany to "... go the way
of the DDR and disappear from history." [sic -- Ebe]. I keep asking Ebe
to defend his statement and elaborate on what, in his opinion, should
'replace' the BRD [** Bundesrepublik Deutschland] of today but Ebe keeps
hitting the [by now] ol' size 16-EEE track shoes and beating feet from
'any' defense of his wares. Why is that? I mean, I have no problem with
'anyone' saying their piece, anyone, and hey, I'm on record as being
'against' so called Holocaust denial laws or what I have termed "thought
legislation" preferring free and non-moderated open discussion and
eliminating any "martyrs" in the process but, and so too, when asked to
'defend' their wares versus a mere 'parroting' and/or 'hauling' of same,
ahhhhhhhhh, often the "It Never Happened!�" litany is simply
regurgitated or chirped ad infinitum as a parrot ["Papagei" in German]
albeit 'minus' any 'defense' of same.
BTW, Crackpot� Freddy Berg includes in his 'Wall' list, you know,
'after' the 'world revolution' when the 'Wall' will deal with those who
can not embrace the 'official' line [read: Berg-line] and besides the
Jews automatically scheduled for the Wall, per Freddy, ALSO listed by
Freddy are the "Islamic types and the Christians" [Ohhh yes!] because
Freddy makes it quite clear that 'any' sort of 'religious' beliefs 'must
be crushed as the poison of humanity' hence those 'believing' Christians
or Muslims, well, per Freddy, the 'Wall' awaits! Interesting tho' that
Freddy terms his 'same side' [** viz., 'revisionists', but same side
revisionists who take issue with Freddy's ravings] opponents as
"crackpot revisionists" [sic -- Berg -- on his website] and his website
commentary section entitled, to wit, "Ravings of a Revisionist Heretic"
sic -- Berg] so nowwwwww you know why I gave Berg the AR moniker of
"Crackpot�." Essentially, Freddy duly 'earned' it!
Heinrich
good lord what a story. i will save it to read it at a more appropriate
time(7o clock in the morninghere)nevertheless i thank you.
Doc Tony
Heinrich! Just curiosity, mind you, and I'll understand if you prefer to
keep silent, but what is it that you do for a living? Now, granted, that
is a personal question and even I would back you if you told me "none of
your business", but, if not a great secret and you are so inclined, what
is it that you do in the land of the tulips?
Doc Tony
;-)
Heinrich
i have had a severeburn out so i now work 4 hours a day in an office in this
town so i have plenty of time to participate on usenet which i like very
much and being here it is good to keep up with the english language
Doc Tony
I see. Well, thanks for your 'input' and do keep up with your English,
Heinrich.
Doc Tony
;-)
[and then ...]
"Robby the Robot" from the classic Sci-Fi flick, "Forbidden Planet" [1956] :
Robby the Robot: "Further input/output on Heinrich, Doc?"
Doc Tony: "Automatic Cancellation Archimedes!" [!]
Robby the Robot: "Done!"
"THE COMPUTER" from the TV Show "Star Trek" :
Doc Tony: "COMPUTER! Execute priority code file dump and expunge,
subject Heinrich !"
THE COMPUTER: "Working .................... File dumped and expunged!"
[** Think about this one .... I mean in view of the 'input' !]
Heinrich
gracias amigo i will continue to do my best
Heinrich
is the one i surely miss. he gavce me the opportunity to learn a lot of new
english words,lol.
on the other hand i must say that ben could pick his words in a better way
but in private emails he pr9oved to me to be a man you can count on.
i sincerely regret to he is absent at this moment
Doc Tony
>
To 'X' --- correct! And so modified above. Kudos that you also caught
the meaning. '54' years and that flick still has a cult following! The
"Krell", Doc Morbius [** Walter Pidgeon], "Robby the Robot" and Altaira
[** Anne Francis] notwithstanding! On the other hand, I was always
partial to the "human female" [sic] companion of Flight Commander George
Taylor [** Charlton Heston], one "Nova" [** Linda Harrison], in the
equally classic Sci-Fi flick, "Planet of the Apes" [1968]. Had to be
that gorgeous long hair which I admire in women to this day. My wife
duly inclusive. For some reason, certain women over age 40 are of the
erroneous [** IMO] opinion that they become "too old" [sic] for long
hair [mid-back length or longer still!], the 'why' of which escapes me!
To me, such long hair [mid-back length and beyond] on women is 'always'
in style! There are even websites 'dedicated' to long haired women,
famous and otherwise, especially some female pianists whose 'locks' [of
whatever color] can reach the waist!
Doc Tony
;-)
Heinrich
did you complain to my german isp about my posting jews and iceskating?
Doc Tony
Of course not! The only reason I brought it up in the first place is
that your wordage and in view of trading posts with Eugene Holman was
not very, shall we say, complimentary to Eugene. You 'do' recognize
that, yes? Nor was it complimentary to Jews. Nor to Muslims. You are
free to post 'what' you wish and 'when' you wish and 'how' you wish but
then too, Heinrich, in a public forum like Usenet, you 'must' understand
that 'whatever' you have to say is subject to the views and opinions of
all other readers. And 'side' aside to boot! 'That' is the ultimate
'free speech' trade-off. In effect, 'expect' opposing views. Get it?
Doc Tony
;-)
Heinrich
oke my friend sorry but i had to ask you. i received following message from
berlin, to whom i asked for elucidation for what i might have done wrong
Dear heinrich mueller,
we received complaints about one of your postings:
| From: "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
| Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel
| Subject: Re: jews and iceskating
| Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:59:27 +0100
| Message-ID: <7qjtri...@mid.individual.net>
| X-Trace: individual.net +iLNYWf6RVCq17Nz1ZMsngBymH11r2z1s1XFpkZMZ+oKeYrNMx
We would like to remind you that the newsserver you are posting
through is located in Berlin, Germany, which has very tight laws
against things like anti-Semitism, racial hatred etc.
Observing laws and regulations is part of our policy which you
accepted as part of our contract with us:
http://news.individual.net/rules.php
Disregarding the rules may cause termination of access privileges
without further notice.
Thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
unquote
Heinrich
i forgot to type the following inmy previous reply.
as for your concern about eugene he is not a negro but a coloured person at
least according to our standards. in case you might think that i amn a
racist i can inform you that my wife is from indonesia
Doc Tony
If you are in fact using a German server, for whatever reasons, then you
have to be careful what you say! When in one swoop you write about, and
I quote you now, with a copy of your remarks in that thread 'also'
having being sent by you to the soc.culture.israel newsgroup, you write
in the "jews and iceskating" thread, "it is an all white event because
you see no niggers, muslims and jews on the ice because it is too cold
for them." [sic -- Heinrich -- 1-3-10 at 9:05 AM [US-EST] and 15:05
Hours at 'your' location in Holland], well, you take your chances that
someone, somewhere, may be offended and complain to the ISP carrying
your message. I don't get into such things and prefer to deal with any
poster directly. Unfortunately for you tho', such a public statement is,
shall we say, and trying to not hit you too hard with this one,
decidedly not in your best interests. Think about it.
And to the extent possible, try to give a little thought to what you say
'before' you say it and click the SEND button and, by so doing, open
yourself up for these kinds of problems. Any of your own problems
notwithstanding. Think of it this way, there is rarely a totally 'free
ride' in Usenet.
Doc Tony
;-)
[and then ..... ]
/:=| "Ja-ja. Stimmt!"
Heinrich: "Ehhh, Mr. Führ...ehhh...Herr Hitler, what is Doc Tony talking
about?"
/:=| [again pulls a 'Freisler'!] "Sie sind, jaaaaaaaa, einnnnnn
schäääääääää-biger .... MUSHUGGAH!" [!]
Heinrich: "Huh? Ohhhhhhhhhhh! Hahahahahaha! I get it! I like to use that
Jew 'kvetching' [** Ohhh yes!] word myself just like my good friend Ben
Cramer does! Hey, ehhhhh, SHALOM to you, wherever you are! Hahahaha!"
/:=| [bupkis!]
Heinrich: [5 minutes goes by ...] "Herr Hitler! Hello? HELLO! Are you
still there? Hello, ehhhhh, [now in German], HALLO!"
[CAMEO]
Eugene Holman: "IF I MAY and as I explained to you, Heinrich, if the
person you say 'Shalom' to, which of course means "PEACE" from the
Hebrew and which is used as a common greeting among Jews to mean
'either' hello or good-bye, but be that as it may, should the person you
say 'Shalom' to suddenly leave, then you've said good-bye."
Heinrich: "Ehhh, I thank you my good friend! Shalom [!] and, ehhhh, [now
hitting the internet for NYC slang terms ...], WAZZUP, Dog? Hahahaha!"
[!]
;-)
What's that? No-no. Call it a 'learning' process! For Heinrich!
Heinrich
okey my friend you have spoken wise words
Jason James
"Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
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[. . .]
> i gave this matter my best attention and my reply to you is that ben
> cramer is the one i surely miss. he gavce me the opportunity to learn a
> lot of new english words,lol.
> on the other hand i must say that ben could pick his words in a better way
> but in private emails he pr9oved to me to be a man you can count on.
> i sincerely regret to he is absent at this moment
Surely you and Kramer will become acquainted again. Hope you can maintain
fidelity till he comes back.
Jason
Heinrich
"Jason James" <a...@ass.com> schreef in bericht
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his name is Cramer and not Kramer do try to keep up