If anyone knows for certain that Melanie is involved with Scientology,
please pass the information on to me. If it's true, I won't stop
listening to her music but, will feel compelled to remove all
information regarding her from my page. Too many people have paid too
dear a price for me to support Scientology in any way. Thanx. Roy
To the child without a promise, to the frightened and the tame.
Although it's just a whisper, freedom knows your name. Melanie Safka
whats the URL of your hopepage?, I like the sound of Melany
*** Wim Vos, Wolfheze, Netherlands ***
*** E-mail: wim...@xs4all.nl ***
a country with rules, needs them
>
>Hello. I have made a web page devoted to the folk singer Melanie.
>Soon after it was up and running, I got several letterws from people
>asking why I was supporting a Scientologist.
While I try not to judge
>people for their personal beliefs, the more I hear of Scientology, the
>more I hope Melanie has nothing to do with it.
>
>If anyone knows for certain that Melanie is involved with Scientology,
>please pass the information on to me.
Afore ya panic (I don't know if she is or not) consider this: when Scientology
manages to attract a CelebriClam (Tm), something they put a LOT of emphasis
upon, they invariably are treated to "Scientology Lite (Tm)".
The prctical effect is that, BASED UPON THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE they're exceedingly
unlikely to ever tumble to the fact that somethin's rotten in Clearwater
(they're too far upwind).
I've often speculated upon this, as I have had relationships with a bunch of the
CelebriClams and know many of them to be truly good & decent people. Great care
is taken to avoid EVER giving them anything to create doubts about their
involvement. For many of them, based upon MY experience, would waste no time
pulling the eject lever if they had a direct confrontation with the
slithery underside. YMMV.
Sincerely,
ezlee m. pressed, SP-3 & PTS since 1968
"As soon as man began considering himself the source of the highest
meaning in the world and the measure of everything, the world began to lose its
human dimension, and man began to lose control of it."
Václav Havel
>Afore ya panic (I don't know if she is or not) consider this: when Scientology
>manages to attract a CelebriClam (Tm), something they put a LOT of emphasis
>upon, they invariably are treated to "Scientology Lite (Tm)".
Very few Celebs get to see the people locked in the
basement of the Blue Beast or running around trees for
months on end, 16 hours a day in Hemet.
>The prctical effect is that, BASED UPON THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE they're exceedingly
>unlikely to ever tumble to the fact that somethin's rotten in Clearwater
>(they're too far upwind).
The stench may be leaking out through the crack provided
by internet.
>I've often speculated upon this, as I have had relationships with a bunch of the
>CelebriClams and know many of them to be truly good & decent people. Great care
>is taken to avoid EVER giving them anything to create doubts about their
>involvement. For many of them, based upon MY experience, would waste no time
>pulling the eject lever if they had a direct confrontation with the
>slithery underside. YMMV.
You have more respect of the Lead Sheep of the cult than I
do, ez. They don't bother to really sniff out where the
rotten smell is coming from. Even though they know it's
there.
>Sincerely,
>ezlee m. pressed, SP-3 & PTS since 1968
Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * *
<dennis....@support.com>
<inF...@primenet.com>
<tarbaby @ irc>
> The stench may be leaking out through the crack provided
>by internet.
>
The Moving Finger writes: and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it.
That crack ain't sealing.
--
Ted Mayett
paro...@epix.net wrote:
>Hello. I have made a web page devoted to the folk singer Melanie.
>Soon after it was up and running, I got several letterws from people
>asking why I was supporting a Scientologist. While I try not to judge
>people for their personal beliefs, the more I hear of Scientology, the
>more I hope Melanie has nothing to do with it.
>
>If anyone knows for certain that Melanie is involved with Scientology,
>please pass the information on to me. If it's true, I won't stop
>listening to her music but, will feel compelled to remove all
>information regarding her from my page. Too many people have paid too
>dear a price for me to support Scientology in any way. Thanx. Roy
Don't do that - I'm sure that everybody's interests would be much
better served if you just added a couple of links from your Melanie
page to some Scientology critics' pages. And don't worry about
"balancing" it by putting a link to the CoS own page - most critics
have already got such a link on theirs, even though the CoS does not
feel able to reciprocate.
- --
Steve: SP4 and Clam Cluster, KoX, KOh
Minister in the First Electronic Church of SCAMIZDAT,
High Grand Pappadum of the Church of the SubGenius,
Rud flyer extraordinaire...
"frankly, if I were a criminal cult so obviously despicable I'd try
to stay out of the papers instead of tromping around like a delirious
elephant in the last stages of terminal hydrophobia." - henry
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: paro...@epix.net wrote:
:
: >Hello. I have made a web page devoted to the folk singer Melanie.
: >Soon after it was up and running, I got several letterws from people
: >asking why I was supporting a Scientologist. While I try not to judge
: >people for their personal beliefs, the more I hear of Scientology, the
: >more I hope Melanie has nothing to do with it.
: >
: >If anyone knows for certain that Melanie is involved with Scientology,
: >please pass the information on to me. If it's true, I won't stop
: >listening to her music but, will feel compelled to remove all
: >information regarding her from my page. Too many people have paid too
: >dear a price for me to support Scientology in any way. Thanx. Roy
:
: Don't do that - I'm sure that everybody's interests would be much
: better served if you just added a couple of links from your Melanie
: page to some Scientology critics' pages. And don't worry about
: "balancing" it by putting a link to the CoS own page - most critics
: have already got such a link on theirs, even though the CoS does not
: feel able to reciprocate.
I agree. It would be like saying that supporting Melanie is the same as
supporting Scientology which is ultimately impossible. Just because you
like her and her music doesn't mean you like everything she's done (or the
people she's associated with).
People in the arts (and people in general) do a lot of things that others
wouldn't consider doing. People in the public spotlight are asked to do
things that ultimately embarrass them, unknowlingly. I admit that I know
next to nothing about Melanie (other than what's been said here), but I
don't think it's reason enough not to have a web page devoted to her.
You're supporting the artist, not everything she does in her private or
public life. (And send me the URL for the page while you're at it. :)
If it makes you feel better, add a link or two to critical pages about
Scientology. Melanie probably wouldn't like it, but if there are any fans
that might be influenced to join, they might be deturred.
While I find the Co$ reprehensible, I'll be damned if I have to stop
liking every movie/music/whatever that a Scientologist was involved with.
[Posted/Mailed to Steve and paro...@epix.net]
Peace,
<> David
URL me at http://www.westworld.com/~gigo
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an idea."
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Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin (1922-1995)
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--Netscape chief executive James Barksdale in a Reuters article, on its
chief competitor, Microsoft
>Don't do that - I'm sure that everybody's interests would be much
>better served if you just added a couple of links from your Melanie
>page to some Scientology critics' pages. And don't worry about
>"balancing" it by putting a link to the CoS own page - most critics
>have already got such a link on theirs, even though the CoS does not
>feel able to reciprocate.
>
I agree with that, to an extent. However, if the person is using
their celebrity status to popularize and promote the C0$, and
denigrate true medical alternatives, then I think their beliefs do
come into play. Of course, I could only talking about our wonderful
Kirstie Alley. I certainly had no problem with her character on
Cheers (not much else to choose from- ooo, what a stellar film
career), but after seeing her cutting ribbons at the Hubbard museum
and slandering legitimate practices like Psychiatry, I can't support
her income and subsequently, her support of the Co$. Luckily, she has
nothing I really _want_ to support, so it's no big loss. :)
> I agree with that, to an extent. However, if the person is using
> their celebrity status to popularize and promote the C0$, and
> denigrate true medical alternatives, then I think their beliefs do
> come into play. Of course, I could only talking about our wonderful
> Kirstie Alley. I certainly had no problem with her character on
> Cheers (not much else to choose from- ooo, what a stellar film
> career), but after seeing her cutting ribbons at the Hubbard museum
> and slandering legitimate practices like Psychiatry, I can't support
> her income and subsequently, her support of the Co$. Luckily, she has
> nothing I really _want_ to support, so it's no big loss. :)
Which begs the question: Which OT level do you have to reach before your
scientology powers enable you to be a washed-up actress?
--
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Cincinnati, Ohio