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descend from heaven .There is no better time for that as the date was
based on understadning the numbers in the Bible.
33 AD: 50th day after Passover that was on April 1 is our May 20.
33 AD : 50th day after Jesus rose who is also a Passover Lamb is May
22.
The earliest day for Passover on a calendar is May 9.
May 9 , 1988 AD + 2300 days of Daniel 8.14 ended when?
2300 days as 6 years 4 months 20 days .
May 9 ,1988 AD + 6 years + 4 months + 20 days = September 29,1994 AD.
September 29 ,1994 AD + 17 years ( for 4027 BC - 4010 BC which is
Adamic period ) = September 29,2011 AD .
17 years hide the number 153 .153 fishes - John 21.11.
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17 = 153 .
On September 29,2011 AD should be that time of finalization of
salvation of God's people living now on the earth .
martus
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1st method of working out Jesus' return
Working on the assumption that the year of Jesus crucifixion was 34
AD
God Days seems to represent 1000 years our time and when Hosea is
talking about people being given new life it seems that the new life
that was given is the Holy Spirit. On the third day he will be with us
or for one thousand years Jesus will reign on the earth.
As the death of Jesus' varies depending on the informaion you read
then we will take Jesus' death to be around 34 A.D. Jesus return to
rapture His bride therefore will be 2 days later around 2034.
2 Peter 3:8 With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a
thousand years are like a day.
Hosea 6:2 (Amplified Bible)
2After two days He will revive us (quicken us, give us life); on the
third day He will raise us up that we may live before Him.
Luke 24:7 The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of
sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.
Revelation 20 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Thousand Years
1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the
Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon,
that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a
thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed
it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the
thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short
time.
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given
authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded
because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.
They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received
its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and
reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not
come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first
resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first
resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will
be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand
years.
Second Method
Jesus was talking about the end times and the rebirth of Israel which
became a nation in 1948. The fig tree (Israel) came to life and those
that are still left from this generation that saw Israel become a
nation will also see the return of Jesus. So all other prophecys that
haven't been fulfilled yet need to be fulfilled before all this
generation dies.
The generation of 1948 can live up to a maximum of 120 years which
would bring Jesus return at the latest to 1948 +120 which means any
time up to the year 2068.
In the Old Testament the fig tree was a picture of Israel (Hosea
9:10, Joel 1:7), and in the New Testament Jesus' cursing of the fig
tree was a picture of his coming judgment against Israel (Matthew
21:19, 43; Mark 11:14-15).
Matthew 24
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs
get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33
Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near,
right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly
not pass away until all these things have happened.
Third Method
7000 years
Many Christians have believed, and many still believe, that the
Millennium will start 6,000 years after Creation.
According to Edward Gibbon:
The ancient and popular doctrine of the Millennium was intimately
connected with the second coming of Christ. As the works of creation
had been finished in six days, their duration in the present state,
according to a tradition which was attributed to the prophet Elijah,
was fixed to six thousand years. By the same analogy it was inferred
that this long period of labour and contention, which was now almost
elapsed, would be succeeded by a joyful Sabbath of a thousand years…
The Epistle of Barnabas of the 2nd century said:
In six days God created the works of his hands, and finished them on
the seventh day; and he rested on that day, and sanctified it... What
this means is, that He is going to bring the world to an end in six
thousand years, since with Him one day means a thousand years…
So how many years from man’s creation to Christ’s death
ADAM--->FLOOD 1 656
FLOOD--->ABRAHAM 427
ABRAHAM--->EXODUS 430
EXODUS--->TEMPLE 480
TEMPLE--->NEBUCHADNEZZAR 406
NEBUCHADNEZZAR--->CHRIST 601
TOTAL, ADAM----->CHRIST'S DEATH 4000 Years
The school of Elijah did not only say that there would be 4000 years
to Messiah, however. It also says that there would be 2000 years until
destruction and Messiah's return. There will be 4000 years to Jesus'
death and 2000 years to his return which will be somewhere around the
year 2034 AD
ADJUSTING THE JEWISH CALENDAR
Some may wonder if the above accounting is correct, why isn't the
current year on the Jewish calendar close to the year 6000 if that is
truly the number of years since Adam. Instead the Jews give the
current year as somewhere in the 5760 area. There is thus about a 200
year difference between the dates we have just calculated above
(nearly 6000), and what the present Jewish calendar tells us (about
5760). What is the source of this difference?.
The compilers of the Seder Haddoroth, charged with arranging the
calendar, placed the rebellion of Bar Cochab as beginning at 3892
(from Adam). Now Bar Cochab's false claims to be the Messiah came in
132 A.D. So the Haddoroth compilers made 132 A.D. to be 3892. The
problem is that 132 A.D. was really the year 4130, that is 4130 years
from Adam. 3892 had already occured 238 years ago, in 107 B.C., the
beginning of the Hasmonean Kingdom.
The one thing more than any other which has caused the Jewish mind to
lose clarity and level-headed rationality is the claim of Jesus of
Nazareth to be the Messiah. If the chronology of their fathers had
been followed they would have had to take seriously the words of Jesus
given in the beginning of Mark's gospel: And saying, "The time is
fulfilled..." {MAR 1:15 KJV}
No! they could not do it! The preferred to go with Bar Cochab, one who
claimed to be the Messiah in 132 A.D. Bar Cochab proclaimed himself
Messiah and was accepted by Rabbi Aquiba. He raised the standard of
revolt in Judea and flouted the Romans.
p.s. total history of the earth would be the 7000 years of man and the
5 days of creation before man which would bring the earths age to
12000 years once the 1000 year reign of Christ is complete.
THE TIME CLOCK OF THE 7'S IN DANIEL
Apophis: An asteroid that not only orbits around Passover time(i.e.
passes over) but comes every "week of years" ( 7 years see Daniel). We
know that Apophis will come on April 13, 2029 and then 7 years later
on April 13, 2036 there maybe an impact.
Note the final week is the last orbit of Apophis before it crashes
into the earth.
The final week.
Daniel 9:27 (Amplified Bible)
27And he shall enter into a strong and firm covenant with the many for
one week [seven years]. And in the midst of the week he shall cause
the sacrifice and offering to cease [for the remaining three and one-
half years]; and upon the wing or pinnacle of abominations [shall
come] one who makes desolate, until the full determined end is poured
out on the desolator.
So determine the mid orbit date of Apophis and that should coincide
with the breaking of the treaty. The final orbit of Apophis starts on
the April 13, 2029
Nuclear Weapon set up
Daniel 12:11 (New International Version, ©2011) 11 “From the time that
the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes
desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
1290 days from the breaking of the treaty or the mid orbit of Apophis
final orbit will give you this date.
Mark 13 (Amplified Bible)
14But when you see the abomination of desolation mentioned by Daniel
the prophet standing where it ought not to be--[and] let the one who
reads take notice and consider and understand and heed [this]--then
let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 15Let him who is on
the housetop not go down into the house nor go inside to take anything
out of his house; 16And let him who is in the field not turn back
again to get his mantle (cloak).
17And alas for those who are pregnant and for those who have
nursing babies in those days! 18Pray that it may not occur in
winter, 19For at that time there will be such affliction
(oppression and tribulation) as has not been from the beginning of the
creation which God created until this particular time--and positively
never will be [again]. 20And unless the Lord had shortened the days,
no human being would be saved (rescued); but for the sake of the
elect, His chosen ones (those whom He [l]picked out for Himself), He
has shortened the days.
This Abomination that causes desolation is some sort of nuclear
device.
144000 Sealed for God
Daniel 12:12 (New International Version, ©2011)
12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335
days.
45 days after the nuclear device is set up the sealing of the 144000
people will occur.
Revelation 7:4 (New International Version, ©2011)
4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all
the tribes of Israel.
Revelation 14:3 (New International Version, ©2011)
3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four
living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except
the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.
Length of time from the daily sacrifices stopped to Jesus' return.
Daniel 8:14 (New International Version, ©2011)
13 Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to
him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision
concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation,
the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the
LORD’s people?” 14 He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and
mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”
2300 days from when the sacrifices are stopped Jesus will return.
Rapture of the Woman(the true Christians)
Revelation 12:6 (New International Version, ©2011)
6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by
God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Note total length of time from the stopping of the daily sacrifices
till Jesus returns is 2300 days. The Woman is protected from the worst
of the tribulation and is taken out 1260 days before Christ returns
therefore 2300 days-1260 days is equal to 1040 days from when the
daily sacrafices are stopped.
The two Witnesses
Revelation 11:3 (New International Version, ©2011)
3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for
1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.
1040 days after the daily sacrifice is stopped the faithful
Christians(the Woman) is Raptured out of the coming destruction, I
believe that the 2 witnesses will start preaching 1040 days -1260 days
which gives us 220 days before the sacrifices are stopped.
I believe that the rapture of the Woman(faithful) and the rapture of
the 2 witnesses will occur at the same time therefore the 2 witnesses
will start witnessesing 220 days before the daily sacrifice is
stopped. From the daily sacrifice to the rapture is 1040 days. The 2
Witnesses preach for 1260 days. Therefore 1260 days - 1040 days from
the daily sacrifice to the rapture is equal to 220 days before the
daily sacrifice is taken away.
The 2 witnesses are Enoch(Genesis 5:24) and Elijha(2 Kings 2:1) as
both men have never died and were taken to heaven alive for this very
reason. As Jesus was the first of the resurrected then the other
witnesses can not be Moses as he is dead (Joshua 1:2).
Antichrist's destruction
Revelation 13:5 (New International Version, ©2011)
5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies
and to exercise its authority for forty-two months.
The beast reigns for 42 prophetic months which is 1260 days before
Christ returns note the Woman(faithful) is taken out of the way before
the beast reigns.
Assuming that the daily sacrifices are stopped 1/2 way during Apophis'
last orbit on the 14 October 2032. The rest can be worked out from
this mid point.
Note both the Jewish calender and our present calenders have been
changed at least once each but the orbit of Apophis seems to be
constant coming around every 7 years and is probably why God chose
Apophis's orbit as the time clock for Daniel i.e. the Passover
asteroid that comes every week of years (7 years). Apophis passes over
near/on Passover.
The 2 witnesses will clarify the dates when they will show up but it
is good to have a rough Idea of future events.
Elijahovah
> 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17 = 153 .
> On September 29,2011 AD should be that time of finalization of
> salvation of God's people living now on the earth .
You say the most stupid things.
3 oranges plus 2 apples = 5 days until i blow my nose.
As for your 50th day April 1 plus 49 = May 20
Those are Gregorian dates, so tell your readers, dude.
The actual existing Julian Caesar dates of the time were
April 3 to May 22.
His 40 days were Sunday April 5 to May 15.
These 7 days Palm Sunday to Easter Sunday
followed by the 40 days are exactly the same 365-day calendar dates
as Nov 27 to Jan 6 in 2370-2369bc;
as Nov 27 to Jan 6 in 910- 909bc.
as Nov 27 to Jan 6 in 551- 552ad
as Nov 27 to Jan 6 in 2011-2012ad
our Gregorian Dec 10 to Jan 19.
Jan 19 is the Jan 6 epiphany of Venus since 2006ad
getting annual warning from Al Queda.
2012ad Dec 3 thru 10 is thus the 7 days Jesus presented himself
though dying as Dec 8 he rose Dec 10 (ATTENTION Egyptian dates
or 365-day calendar dates or Mayan haab dates etc... not these actual
December dates).
The point is we should expect the bride to come as did her husband The
Lamb
and present hersel likewise as the Lamb.
As Jesus set himself up to show that an armageddon warning cannot be
given
nor will kings allow such a preparation
or evacuation is because priests and religions that kings obey will
defy it.
They always kill the people who can save us always have.
Tesla died broke so Thmoas Edison could rape his wallet and thus his
life.
Thomas Edison thus KILLED Tesla but it was Jehovah who stepped in and
said
sorry Edison dude were going AC not DC. Yet Edison got rich for it.
This is also true of the month January being named after Jannes
instead of its rightful
calendar swcholar Moses. Jannes gets the credit and glory for what
Moses
made public issue of, and Jannes thus profited too when in fact he was
the
defiant stand against it all.
YOU people did this to me too, because I have inventions you couldnt
begin to imagine,
and I gave up to curse you people instead. Repent turn around becaus
eyour deaths
are due to your now killing the Lamb as you have killed me,
and like John Baptizer I also fear you will indeed kill me before you
kill the Lamb.
vince garcia
lies in September--and that you have no idea what you're doing or
talking about, but rather are being used of Satan to bring shame upon
the Bible...will you repent, admit your error, and apologize for your
heresy and pride?
Or will you, like the JWs and Harold Camoping, make an excuse, continue
to uphold yourself as a true mouthpiece of God, and continue in your
lies and deception?
Misanthropic Curmudgeon
[snip more of OBVES' numerology hogwash]
> On September 29,2011 AD should be that time of
> finalization of salvation of God's people living now
> on the earth .
1) Rubbish. As you've been told before: bad maths on bad
data gives codswallop
2) You'll be laughed at in 30-09-2011, just like you were
last time your 'predictions' failed to eventuate
3) Is that 29-09-2011 where? Tonga? NZ? China? UK? US?
Because your inabilty to incorpotate the international date
line (being a man-made construction, just like your god
and your bible) into you delusion is quite comical
Greg Carr
The 153 fishes of John 21:11 have nothing to do with biblical
prophecy. Camping is a deluded liar and false prophet who rakes in the
money from the gullible and desperate. The rapture won't happen in
Month ten either.
OB...@aol.com
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153 fishes has to do with biblical prophecy ! You don't understand the
numebers in the Bible . They are words .To underscore this numbers in
the Hebrew were written in the form of words ( just as words ) and if
we must study or interpret the Bible we must interpret the numbers too
as we do with normal words.
For this one one reason alone I placed Harold Camping as number 1 on
radio earthwide.
Even if he is my best opponent and I call him a false prophet as he
teaches some wrong doctrines he is very good at pinpointing some
dates,numbers and explaining them.
Give you some examples :
He was able to pinpoint the 2300-day period of Daniel 8.14 very close
to the way I place these 2300 days .
He got the period 1955 years to which I came my own way using these
two periods:
29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD ..... 1955 years ... 1984 AD - 1988 AD -
1991 AD .
He used only 33 AD and 1988 AD .He doesn't know about 29 AD - 33 AD -
36 AD and 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD .
And again for this one good observation of 1955 years I could place
him as number 1 Bible preacher on radio and tv .
153 fishes imply the following .
The number 153 must be interpreted why 153 fishes ,not 159 or 20000111
fishes ?
To get 153 we can do this operation by adding numbers from 1 to 17 .
1+2 ... + 16 + 17 = 153 .
The year 2492 BC was a year 120 years before the Flood of Noah.
2492 BC + 7 times as 2520 years and/or 2520 days = 29 AD - 36 AD .
2492 is here shown as 2+4+9+2 = 17 .
We can place the number 17 on the dates : 29 AD or 29 AD and 36 AD.
That is why the 153 fishes are linked to salvation by coming of Jesus
Christ. All saved come under this number that is symbolic .
"7 times" was used here .
7 times as 1x2x3x4x5x6x7 is 5040 which is the same as 2x3x4x5x6x7
which is also 5040 years . So we can drop number 1 in multiplying the
numbers as we get the same 5040 years .
2520 years are also 7 times as it can be proven easily ( just examine
my posts ) . 7 x 360 days / 360 years = 2520 years .
To get 2520 in place of 5040 we take out number 2 .
3x4x5x6x7=2520 .
So when we add in 17 from 1 to 17 we can omit "1" and " 2" .
3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17 = 150 .
153 can be replaced with 152 if "1 " is omitted " or 150 if "1" and
"2 " are taken out .
457 BC and 455 BC can be used in counting the times of Jesus' coming .
607 BC - 457 BC = 150 years 607 BC - 455 BC = 152 years .
457 BC + 7 times as 420 years + 30 or 35 years for extra 30 or 35 days
added to a calendars in 7-year periods to make up delays = 7 BC and 2
BC .
455 BC + 70 weeks as 490 years = 36 AD and the last week of 70 weeks
here is 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD .
1884 AD + 150 years = 2034 AD .* Examine my posts how I came up with
the endtime era and dates like 1884 AD and 2034 AD and much more.