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The Exploration Of The Inner World, Anton Boisen (1936)

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Etznab

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Dec 7, 2012, 6:02:31 PM12/7/12
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Looking for online copy of THE EXPLORATION OF THE INNER WORLD, by Anton Boisen, Harper, 1936. Especially pp. 30-33.

I saw a brief reference on p. XXIV here. Quoting excerpt:

"[...] He felt himself in possession of a power that he did not have before and he began to have a 'flood of mental pictures as though an album within were unfolding itself.' Then came the dark woman in a vision, whom he took to be
supernatural . . .
"The second step which we observed in the development of Albert's psychosis was an acute sense of peril. He thought he was going to die. Then he saw things in a new light and he thought the 'dawn of creation' had come. [... .]"

http://starvethematrix.com/~starvet0/images/pdf/Dick_Philip_K.-In_Pursuit_of_Valis.pdf

I came across a reference to that book during my research into the Dialogues With The Master chapter: INFLUENCES OF THE ASTRAL WORLD, by Paul Twitchell, 1970. (See 7th & 8th paragraphs of that DWTM chapter and compare with above quote. Both texts also go on to talk about thoughts of past lives, etc.)

It will probably be impossible to tell whether much similarity exists between Boisen and Twitchell's books without reading more from THE EXPLORATION OF THE INNER WORLD, by Anton Boisen. If anybody finds a link, please post it here.

Santim Vah

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Dec 7, 2012, 7:07:54 PM12/7/12
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Maybe some things could pop up in this book ....
http://archive.org/stream/outofthedepthsan012920mbp/outofthedepthsan012920mbp_djvu.txt

NOTE:::
I also refer back a couple of comments made recently .. using the words *mad* and *crazy* ..... these were put ina context of trying to point out the lack of support and the blame fault laid upon others from an org that plays a role in creating the experiences in the first place that leads to mad and crazy.

quote from the book referenced ...

FOREWORD

THIS is MY OWN CASE RECORD. I offer it as a case of valid religious
experience which was at the same time madness of the most pro-
found and unmistakable variety. In this record I have brought to-
gether such material as may throw light upon the origin, meaning,
and outcome of that experience. This I have done not from any
love of dwelling upon matters which are often painful and deli-
cately personal, and certainly not from any desire to display them
to others. I have written it because now for forty years I have
been making it my business to inquire into the problems here
involved, and my own case is the one I know best. It may indeed
constitute a biasing factor which needs to be discounted, but
it affords also the firsthand evidence which is the basis of any
authority I may claim as an explorer in this field. It gives
support to my central thesis that certain forms of mental disorder
and certain forms of religious experience are closely interrelated
Mental disorder is, 1 hold, the price humanity has to pay fo]
having the power of choice and the capacity for growth, and iij
some of its forms it is a manifestation of healing power analogouf
to fever or inflammation in the body.


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you know, most days, I don't even have to bother looking for anything ... what's needed, what is appropriate simply comes of it own volition .. ;-)


OK the APA have the book you seek .. but how to access that?

The hypothesis of the book is "that there is an important relationship between acute mental illness of the functional type and those sudden transformations of character so prominent in the history of the Christian church since the days of Saul of Tarsus… . Certain types of mental disorder and certain types of religious experience are alike attempts at reorganization. Where the attempt is successful… it is commonly recognized as religious experience… where it is unsuccessful… it is commonly spoken of as "insanity.' " The author is concerned with showing that the problem of mental illness, whatever its organic concomitants may be, has to do with the philosophy of life and usually with the sense of personal failure. He therefore addresses himself chiefly to religious workers to suggest ways in which they can aid in the effective handling of the problems of mental disease. Index and glossary. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1937-00744-000

Santim Vah

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Dec 7, 2012, 7:22:31 PM12/7/12
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THis google book might have some quotes from Boison, and can be search previewed.

http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Anton_T_Boisen_1876_1965.html?id=cuePAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y

could be a dead end though ..

or this short pdf

http://www.metro.inter.edu/facultad/esthumanisticos/coleccion_anton_boisen/Case%20Study%20Method-Glenn%20Asquith.pdf

not sure what this is .. could eb a lead ..

http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.011.0124a

best i can do, have to run, chow

Santim Vah

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Dec 7, 2012, 7:24:53 PM12/7/12
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short pdf .. info .. and text by boison

http://www.metro.inter.edu/facultad/esthumanisticos/coleccion_anton_boisen/File%201-%20Published%20Articles/14%20-%20Origins%20of%20the%20Movement%201951.pdf



On Saturday, December 8, 2012 11:07:54 AM UTC+11, Santim Vah wrote:

Etznab

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Dec 7, 2012, 7:32:53 PM12/7/12
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ISKCON has a number of references to Boisen. Here is a brief excerpt:

[...]

In his talk, entitled “On Continuing the Project of Anton T. Boisen’s Constructive Synthesis: A Contribution from a Vaishnava Hindu Tradition,” Ravindra Svarupa, speaking in full Vaishnava robes, discussed the impact the work of Anton Boisen, a pioneer in clinical pastoral education, had on himself and the ISKCON organization.

Boisen was a Christian minister who was diagnosed with scizhophrenia in 1920 at the age of 44, and placed in Westboro State Mental Hospital by his family. Doctors said he would never recover.

But fifteen months later, he recovered. And as he did, Boisen realized that his condition had been brought about by an extreme spiritual crisis; and that while some of the other patients at the hospital had organically-based illnesses, many suffered from conditions similar to his.

When he was released from hospital, Boisen had a new mission. He began to study the psychology of religion, and developed the thesis that a spiritual crisis can go two ways: if the outcome is successful, it’s called a religious experience. But if the individual’s condition deteriorates, it becomes known as a mental illness.

[... .]

Read more: http://news.iskcon.com/node/4323/2012-04-13/iskcon_scholar_speaks_on_link_between_mental_and_spiritual_health#ixzz2EPq6ft7R

I thought that was interesting. There is a book link I have which contains some references and quotes to Boisen's book.

http://archive.org/stream/cure-of-souls-manual/cure-of-souls-manual_djvu.txt
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Etznab

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Dec 8, 2012, 12:56:53 AM12/8/12
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On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:26:21 PM UTC-6, johnr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, December 7, 2012 3:02:31 PM UTC-8, Etznab wrote:
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What difference does it make?

The orangutan from Planet of the Apes probably thought something similar after people starting asking about the Forbidden Zone. And that is all this is about, IMHO. People who research and / or want the truth about Rebazar Tarzs and text attributed to him are told stories (in so many words) like "... Well, you see, it's like this. So many people have reported how they met the Eck Masters long before they ever heard of Eckankar. So never mind those pages and pages of plagiarized text that Paul Twitchell evidently appropriated from other people's copyrighted works."

appropriate (v.)

early 15c., "take possession of," from Late Latin appropriatus, pp. of appropriare, adpropriare (c.450) "to make one's own," from Latin ad- "to" (see ad-) + propriare "take as one's own," from proprius "one's own" (see proper). Related: Appropriated; appropriating.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=appropriated&searchmode=none

It is not just what difference it makes to me.

And it does make a difference to me whether Rebazar Tarzs is REAL, or not. I'm not gonna have somebody's wild imagination impersonating R.T. every time a LEM translates without first naming a successor. Or have some shadowy figure behind a curtain creating cult-like scripts for some little old man portrayed as the All-Knowing OZ!

You can call me the Terrible Toto if you like.

Etznab

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Dec 8, 2012, 9:04:51 AM12/8/12
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Have been going in reverse order for the book DWTM ever since the chapters: The Desire of Soul, The Heart Center, The Experience of Spiritual Wealth, Practical Wisdom, Unconditional Love, The Feeling of God, The Cosmic Worlds. So the next chapter in that order was Influences Of The Astral World; and it was the reason for mentioning a book by Anton Boisen at this time.

Going in regular order, other DWTM chapters evidently showing appropriated texts include: What is Life, A Talk With Rami Nuri, The Lord Sohang Speaks, A Discourse By Gopal Das and Maya, The Queen Of Illusion.

That is all I've had time to do so far.
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