Out of body experiences!
martus
"I was putting pebbles in a bucket and I was having a really good
time."
Linda Jacquin was just four years old. Playing in the water though
she was so young, she says she remembers everything. Including when
her foot slipped off a rock and she was caught under the surface.
"I was underwater and I started breathing underwater because at four
and a half years old, you didn't know you can't breathe underwater,"
she says.
What happened next isn't completely clear. But Linda says she began to
leave her body -- floating away.
"With a vantage point of being in the corner of the room, I didn't have
a body, but it wasn't frightening," says Dr. Pam Kircher, who says she
too left her body while gripped in the pain of meningitis. She was six
years old. There wasn't the medical equipment to say whether she really
died or not. But the experience, she says, was from another place.
"I felt absolute peace and the feeling of being surrounded by God. It
was perfect."
But for just a moment.
"As soon as I realized it was me, I was back in my body. So mine was a
brief near-death experience, but it was profoundly influential in my
life," Kircher says.
Linda recalls the view from above her body: "I saw blond hair floating
on water, which was my blond hair. I was perfectly happy where I was.
I felt safe, I felt loved, and I didn't want to go back in my body --
back in the place where I was."
Linda spent moments, she says, with her grandmother. Also with Jesus
amid colors she says were more beautiful than any rainbow.
"The closest thing that I could say is that it looked like is when
light hits an icecicle and it refracts for that brief second, and you
see all colors at one time, but they're crystal clear," Jacquin says.
"I can remember how sad my mom and dad were and I could tell how
panicky they were and then my gaze went to my brother Bobby. And I
said I have to go back for Bobby -- he's going to be in a lot of
trouble if i don't go back," she says.
She chose to go back. Others who have a near-death experience say
they're powerless to go where they's heading -- only following or being
carried. Most also say that they're bathed in warmth and love.
Debbie James has been a nurse her entire career, and is no less
fascinated she says then when she first started noticing the
phenomenon.
"Some people who had been in chronic pain say I am finally at peace --
it didn't hurt for the first time. So when you hear adults and
children say those things, once again you've got to pay attention," she
says.
"I don't know exactly what i believe about that in terms of where we go
from here and if there's an afterlife and those kinds of things, but I
can tell you I'm moved and encouraged by what they tell me."
Kircher says it is true, that she did leave her body all those years
ago.
"Those people who have a near-death experience become very spirtual.
What I mean by that is that there is something more than this material
world."
Those who come back -- they call themselves "experiencers" --
unanimously say those who are allowed to come back from death have a
profound responsibility. Many say it is given by God -- and it's to
teach and to love.
"The only thing that exists on the other side is love. And if people
just did that and had compassion for other people the world would be a
lot better place," Jacquin says.
"I really do believe that we're here to learn about compassion and
love, and anytime we're not doing that, we're not doing our job," says
Kircher.
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More out of body experiences here:
http://mart1963.tripod.com/docs/EPILOGUE.html
Azaliah
<martt...@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
>Near-Death Experiences As Children Change Lives
You are a deluded person. Goodbye.
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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Joseph Hertzlinger
emmas...@yahoo.co.uk
Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:
> Isn't a better term "out of mind experiences"?
>
You don't believe that we continue to exist after
death, Joseph?
I haven't read the link to the rest of this, but I thought the post
described quite a common experience. It's not unusual for
those who've been brought back from death to have an
out of body experience.
Of course it's often explained away as the effect of the drugs on
the brain, but there are mysteries eg. how is it they
can describe the scene in the room in great detail?
emmas...@yahoo.co.uk
Azaliah wrote:
> On 9 Nov 2006 14:05:08 -0800, while bungee jumping, "martus"
> <martt...@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
>
>
> >Near-Death Experiences As Children Change Lives
>
> You are a deluded person. Goodbye.
>
You don't believe in an afterlife?
BoD
I,am sure they are classed as liars, by many who who just cant fit that
concept into there doctrine.
But its the truth!
I know. Knows.
The knower knows that which is was and will be again.
Faith in God and his promise is the Key to life and to Death.
For without faith, there is no hope and thus no future.
In faith, is all possibility and all hope.
"In my fathers house are many mansions","And I go to make a place for you"
Having faith, allows the Holy spirit to move you along his path toward
the light in this physicality. As you move toward the light of God the
path narrows and only the innocent lamb can pass.
Why?
Because the guilt of your sins will not let you walk the narrow path.
The guilt of your sins will not let you because you know your not worthy
and will not repent them.
"INNOCENT LIKE A CHILD!"
Innocent like a child, With the Faith of Christ Strong like a lion,
Strength of a sword.
Obtained by the Grace of God as you walk his path into righteousness.
"It is a narrow path","Few there are that enter" to become Sovereign In
Christ.
Death is conquered by faith in God!
It will only be you or more so your "self" who will not believe.
Reward and the promise, or judgment and condemnation
Not knowing because of pre condition.
IS NO EXCUSE !
MUST "KNOW" THE TRUTH!
IT IS WRITTEN IN EVERY MANS HEART !
Question everything anyone tells you is true. To accept something as
true if your not sure means that you accept blindly, something that may
not be true.
ONLY YOU WILL KNOW.
That I,am YOU!
Only I will know I,am.
ONLY WHEN YOU PASS THROUGH THE VALLY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH FEARING NO
EVIL WILL YOU KNOW THIS.
"Come Death where is your sting."
"To him that gives his life for my sake shall find it"
YOUR CONDITIONED TO FEAR DEATH !
AND ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE !
IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT !
DO YOU UNDERSTAND !
DEATH HAS NO STING IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN IT !
ITS THE LAW !
ITS THE TRUTH !
DO YOU BELIEVE ?
BoD!
P.L.U.S. +
Peace Love and Unity of Spirit.
Life but so much more abundant.
Jah-Rules-Salam.
Azaliah
emmas...@yahoo.co.uk shouted thusly:
>Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:
>
>> Isn't a better term "out of mind experiences"?
>>
>
>You don't believe that we continue to exist after
>death, Joseph?
Scientific proof of existence after death, is easy to show.
We ave energy within us. Energy cannot die. It can
only take on a different form. Proving what form it
takes, is where the difficulty lies, in the scientific arena.
BoD
> On 10 Nov 2006 01:41:17 -0800, while bungee jumping,
> emmas...@yahoo.co.uk shouted thusly:
>
>
>> Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't a better term "out of mind experiences"?
>>>
>> You don't believe that we continue to exist after
>> death, Joseph?
>
> Scientific proof of existence after death, is easy to show.
> We ave energy within us. Energy cannot die. It can
> only take on a different form. Proving what form it
> takes, is where the difficulty lies, in the scientific arena.
>
Looking at the facts can only give "understanding"
Experiencing it, confirms the truth.
It is the experience that confirms overstating.
Knowing that which is true. Above and beyond that which was a lie.
Death, Or Life. Is a pure function of reality even using Einsteins
theory there is no proof. But if applied explains the relative physical
experience of the perceiver of it.
Your current valance or body is present throughout all of reality.
But you only can only see reality how you perceived it to be.
Reality however is far greater than our ability to perceive it.
LAW !
Your perception of the reality you see is your own free will choice.
THE DUAL EDGED SWORD !
You have to want the reality of salvation over the reality of death and
destruction.
A good start, dont you think?
BoD!
"Such is the idea of a great and noble life - to endure ambiguity in the
movement of truth and to make life shine through it; to stand fast in
uncertainty, to be capable of unlimited love and hope."
(Karl Jaspers)
martus
'He gave me life twice'
Eric Mansfield
Created: 11/8/2006 10:46:22 PM
Updated:11/9/2006 11:52:50 AM
Andy Holcomb shares his near-death experience in hopes of helping
others with the problems they face in life.
AKRON -- His body broken and battered, Andy Holcomb's spirit has never
been more alive.
The Akron man was nearly killed in early 2005 when an industrial
accident claimed the entire lower half of his body. Doctors believe
Holcomb should have died that day, but he survived as a medical
miracle.
For the first time, Holcomb is talking publicly about the journey he
said he took during those moments while trapped in an industrial
machine.
"Last thing I saw was the light before that happened," Holcomb said.
"First thing I thought to do was to say the Lord's Prayer. There's a
real comforting presence the whole time It was there. It was almost as
if like, God had taken me from my body, because I could like see me.
"As soon as I closed my eyes, I opened them and I was in this train. I
had no legs and I was searching around me frantically looking for my
phone. So I could call my family and tell them goodbye."
At one point, rescuers believed Holcomb was gone, but he says his
journey was just beginning.
"This angel stopped me and she looked at me. She wore a white gown and
she told me that I couldn't go where everyone else was going and I said
'well why not?' and she said 'because you're not dead yet.
"I asked her if I could keep my legs and she was like 'Well I talked to
Him (God), and He said you can't keep your legs but you'll have
something much better than that when you get back.'"
Holcomb says he was swept away by the amazing sounds of an angelic
choir.
"It's indescribable," he said. "Hearing it as loud and as graceful and
as peaceful as it was. That's kind of the sound when no one else is
around. That kind of sound in the background."
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Before and after I had the out of body experience I heard the angels
singing. My soul/me was standing before Jesus and not only did I hear
the angels singing, in the distance surrounding Jesus I could make out
a white glow all around us but could not see them clearly due to that
distance.
BoD
> Isn't a better term "out of mind experiences"?
>
Maybe. Please expound.
old man joe
wrote:
angels have never in the Bible appeared to man in the form of a woman,
except that Satan has appeared many times to Papists in the form of
Mary.
that's how the Rosary came to be... when Satan gave a masochist Monk
orders to pray to him... which Papists do to this day.
Satan, in the form of Mary, gave the Papists forgiveness of sins by
prayer and worship to him... a worship of Satan the Papists never
cease to do.
this so called ' out of the body experience ' is just a hallucination
of the gods of the spiritually dead which the Papists have been in
union with all along... such events are never reported by the elect.
martus
> angels have never in the Bible appeared to man in the form of a woman,
> except that Satan has appeared many times to Papists in the form of
> Mary.
Zechariah 5:9 (Amplified Bible)
Amplified Bible (AMP)
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Foundation
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9Then lifted I up my eyes and looked, and behold, there were two women
coming forward! The wind was in their wings, for they had wings like
the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah[-sized vessel]
between the earth and the heavens.
> this so called ' out of the body experience ' is just a hallucination
> of the gods of the spiritually dead which the Papists have been in
> union with all along... such events are never reported by the elect.
Revelation1
10I was in the Spirit [rapt in His power] on the Lord's Day, and I
heard behind me a great voice like the calling of a [i]war trumpet,
11Saying, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last.
Write promptly what you see (your vision) in a book and send it to the
seven churches which are in Asia--to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to
Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to
Laodicea.
Mistylien
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