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Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t Delivered.
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Mattb
Jan 29, 2020, 1:38:42 PM1/29/20
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Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
Delivered.
After decades of shielding the identities of accused child abusers
from the public, many Catholic leaders are now releasing lists of
their names. But the lists are inconsistent, incomplete and omit key
details.
It took 40 years and three bouts of cancer for Larry Giacalone to
report his claim of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of a Boston
priest named Richard Donahue.
Giacalone sued Donahue in 2017, alleging the priest molested him in
1976, when Giacalone was 12 and Donahue was serving at Sacred Heart
Parish. The lawsuit never went to trial, but a compensation program
set up by the archdiocese concluded that Giacalone “suffered physical
injuries and emotional injuries as a result of physical abuse” and
directed the archdiocese to pay him $73,000.
Even after the claim was settled and the compensation paid in February
2019, however, the archdiocese didn’t publish Donahue’s name on its
list of accused priests. Nor did it three months later when
Giacalone’s lawyer, Mitchell Garabedian, criticized the church
publicly for not adding Donahue’s name to the list.
Church leaders finally added Donahue to the list last month after
ProPublica asked why he hadn’t been included. But that, too, sowed
confusion. Despite the determination that Giacalone was entitled to
compensation, Donahue’s name was added to a portion of the list for
priests accused in cases deemed “unsubstantiated” — where the
archdiocese says it does not have sufficient evidence to determine
whether the clergy member committed the alleged abuse.
“To award a victim a substantial amount of money, yet claim that the
accused is not a pedophile, is an insult to one’s intelligence,” said
Garabedian, who has handled hundreds of abuse cases over the last 25
years. “It’s a classic case of the archdiocese ducking, delaying and
avoiding issues.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
Catholic donations at work hiding the evil. The poor can starve is
the RCC belief?
Delivered.
After decades of shielding the identities of accused child abusers
from the public, many Catholic leaders are now releasing lists of
their names. But the lists are inconsistent, incomplete and omit key
details.
It took 40 years and three bouts of cancer for Larry Giacalone to
report his claim of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of a Boston
priest named Richard Donahue.
Giacalone sued Donahue in 2017, alleging the priest molested him in
1976, when Giacalone was 12 and Donahue was serving at Sacred Heart
Parish. The lawsuit never went to trial, but a compensation program
set up by the archdiocese concluded that Giacalone “suffered physical
injuries and emotional injuries as a result of physical abuse” and
directed the archdiocese to pay him $73,000.
Even after the claim was settled and the compensation paid in February
2019, however, the archdiocese didn’t publish Donahue’s name on its
list of accused priests. Nor did it three months later when
Giacalone’s lawyer, Mitchell Garabedian, criticized the church
publicly for not adding Donahue’s name to the list.
Church leaders finally added Donahue to the list last month after
ProPublica asked why he hadn’t been included. But that, too, sowed
confusion. Despite the determination that Giacalone was entitled to
compensation, Donahue’s name was added to a portion of the list for
priests accused in cases deemed “unsubstantiated” — where the
archdiocese says it does not have sufficient evidence to determine
whether the clergy member committed the alleged abuse.
“To award a victim a substantial amount of money, yet claim that the
accused is not a pedophile, is an insult to one’s intelligence,” said
Garabedian, who has handled hundreds of abuse cases over the last 25
years. “It’s a classic case of the archdiocese ducking, delaying and
avoiding issues.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
Catholic donations at work hiding the evil. The poor can starve is
the RCC belief?
Patrick B
Jan 29, 2020, 4:43:14 PM1/29/20
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Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>Delivered.
Which Catholic leaders?
>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>Delivered.
>https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
Your ref states:
"Many of the 178 dioceses that have released new or updated lists of
accused clergy since last year have cited the Pennsylvania grand jury
report as a reason for doing so."
And this is a very good reason.
The Penn Grand Jury claimed there were 38 pedophiles in active duty
priethood when they puiblshed the report. In actiuality, over 20 of
those names were names of dead priests, Most of the rest were
retired, or removed from the ministry. One guy was alive - but he was
in prison.
And you want to show this kind of transparency?
Reminds me of the true transparency shown by pelosi.
What hofwash bull shit.
Mattb
Jan 29, 2020, 10:37:37 PM1/29/20
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
wrote:
> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>Delivered.
>
>Which Catholic leaders?
Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
and report back.
>
>
>>https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
>
>Your ref states:
>"Many of the 178 dioceses that have released new or updated lists of
>accused clergy since last year have cited the Pennsylvania grand jury
>report as a reason for doing so."
>
>And this is a very good reason.
>The Penn Grand Jury claimed there were 38 pedophiles in active duty
>priethood when they puiblshed the report. In actiuality, over 20 of
>those names were names of dead priests, Most of the rest were
>retired, or removed from the ministry. One guy was alive - but he was
>in prison.
>
>And you want to show this kind of transparency?
Truth is what is important.
>
>What hofwash bull shit.
wrote:
> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>Delivered.
>
>Which Catholic leaders?
and report back.
>
>
>>https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
>
>Your ref states:
>"Many of the 178 dioceses that have released new or updated lists of
>accused clergy since last year have cited the Pennsylvania grand jury
>report as a reason for doing so."
>
>And this is a very good reason.
>The Penn Grand Jury claimed there were 38 pedophiles in active duty
>priethood when they puiblshed the report. In actiuality, over 20 of
>those names were names of dead priests, Most of the rest were
>retired, or removed from the ministry. One guy was alive - but he was
>in prison.
>
>And you want to show this kind of transparency?
>
>Reminds me of the true transparency shown by pelosi.
Yes Pelosi and Trump.
>Reminds me of the true transparency shown by pelosi.
>
>What hofwash bull shit.
Patrick B
Jan 30, 2020, 7:25:32 AM1/30/20
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:37:36 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>>Delivered.
>>
>>Which Catholic leaders?
>
> Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
>and report back.
You make a stupid claim.
I want to know more about it.
ANd you refuse.
>>And you want to show this kind of transparency?
>
> Truth is what is important.
Then why don't you start providing it here?
wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>>Delivered.
>>
>>Which Catholic leaders?
>
> Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
>and report back.
I want to know more about it.
ANd you refuse.
>>And you want to show this kind of transparency?
>
> Truth is what is important.
duckg...@cox.net
Jan 30, 2020, 8:42:43 AM1/30/20
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> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>Delivered.
>
>Which Catholic leaders?
>
>
>>https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
>
>Your ref states:
>"Many of the 178 dioceses that have released new or updated lists of
>accused clergy since last year have cited the Pennsylvania grand jury
>report as a reason for doing so."
Matt lies, lies, lies. He can't see how much has been done.
>
>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>Delivered.
>
>Which Catholic leaders?
>
>
>>https://www.propublica.org/article/catholic-leaders-promised-transparency-about-child-abuse-they-havent-delivered
>
>Your ref states:
>"Many of the 178 dioceses that have released new or updated lists of
>accused clergy since last year have cited the Pennsylvania grand jury
>report as a reason for doing so."
>And this is a very good reason.
>The Penn Grand Jury claimed there were 38 pedophiles in active duty
>priethood when they puiblshed the report. In actiuality, over 20 of
>those names were names of dead priests, Most of the rest were
>retired, or removed from the ministry. One guy was alive - but he was
>in prison.
>Reminds me of the true transparency shown by pelosi.
>What hofwash bull shit.
the dukester, American-American
duckg...@cox.net
Jan 30, 2020, 8:43:14 AM1/30/20
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the dukester, American-American
Mattb
Jan 30, 2020, 3:37:09 PM1/30/20
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 07:25:32 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
not doing the homework so why should I?
>
>
>>>And you want to show this kind of transparency?
>>
>> Truth is what is important.
>
>Then why don't you start providing it here?
Prove it isn't.
wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:37:36 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>>>Delivered.
>>>
>>>Which Catholic leaders?
>>
>> Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
>>and report back.
>
>You make a stupid claim.
>I want to know more about it.
>ANd you refuse.
Like you say over and over even when you make the claim that your
>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:37:36 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>>>Delivered.
>>>
>>>Which Catholic leaders?
>>
>> Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
>>and report back.
>
>You make a stupid claim.
>I want to know more about it.
>ANd you refuse.
not doing the homework so why should I?
>
>
>>>And you want to show this kind of transparency?
>>
>> Truth is what is important.
>
>Then why don't you start providing it here?
Patrick B
Jan 30, 2020, 7:40:37 PM1/30/20
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:37:09 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
I merely want to know what catholic leaders.
It is your homework to do.
You made the claim.
You should prove it.
wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 07:25:32 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:37:36 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>>>>Delivered.
>>>>
>>>>Which Catholic leaders?
>>>
>>> Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
>>>and report back.
>>
>>You make a stupid claim.
>>I want to know more about it.
>>ANd you refuse.
>
>
> Like you say over and over even when you make the claim that your
>not doing the homework so why should I?
You claimed: catholic leaders..."
>On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 07:25:32 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:37:36 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:43:14 -0500, Patrick B <BARK...@ERINET.COM>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Catholic Leaders Promised Transparency About Child Abuse. They Haven’t
>>>>>Delivered.
>>>>
>>>>Which Catholic leaders?
>>>
>>> Like you say I'm not doing your homework for you Patrick, go find out
>>>and report back.
>>
>>You make a stupid claim.
>>I want to know more about it.
>>ANd you refuse.
>
>
> Like you say over and over even when you make the claim that your
>not doing the homework so why should I?
I merely want to know what catholic leaders.
It is your homework to do.
You made the claim.
You should prove it.
Mattb
Jan 31, 2020, 12:43:22 AM1/31/20
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Greg Carr
Jan 31, 2020, 1:48:20 AM1/31/20
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The political atmosphere in our country has become so toxic that it becomes a news story when the speaker of the House says she does not hate the president.
"I don't hate the president," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi. "I pray for the president all the time."
Pelosi was responding to a reporter's question after she had announced that she was asking the House of Representatives to impeach the president. She was asked if she hates the president by a reporter who cited Rep. Doug Collins' statement that the Democrats are trying to impeach the president because they hate him. Collins, a Republican from Georgia, has been a staunch defender of President Donald Trump during the impeachment hearings.
Pelosi strongly rejected the question, which she saw as an insult to her faith and her upbringing.
"I don't hate anybody," responded Pelosi. "I was raised in a Catholic house. We don't hate anybody, not anybody in the world. Don't accuse me of hate."
Being accused of hatred was, in Pelosi's mind, the same as accusing her of being a bad Catholic.
"As a Catholic, I resent your using the word 'hate' in a sentence that addresses me," she said. "I don't hate anyone."
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Greg Carr
Jan 31, 2020, 1:49:08 AM1/31/20
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Patrick B
Jan 31, 2020, 7:58:25 AM1/31/20
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Patrick B
Jan 31, 2020, 7:59:34 AM1/31/20
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Greg Carr <gregca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Nancy Pelosi is a self described catholic who has never been excommunicated by the pope.
Why don't you learn about excommunication before you whine about it.
>Nancy Pelosi is a self described catholic who has never been excommunicated by the pope.
If you ask nicely, I will explain it to you.
duckg...@cox.net
Jan 31, 2020, 9:13:49 AM1/31/20
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 22:49:07 -0800 (PST), Greg Carr <gregca...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Of course not. You're a sexual pervert, a drunk and a jailbird.
the dukester, American-American
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the dukester, American-American
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