Cube gone soft?
Michael Spector
know he's married and has a familly now but he's lost that ruthless edge.
BTW, who's responsible for the crappy recording of Predator? As the producer is that Cube's job? It sounds like an AM radio broadcast. Doggystyle and the
Chronic are about the best CD quality I've ever heard out of rap music. (should
we thank Dre for that?)
One last thing, when is Eazy's full length album coming out?
- Mike
spe...@sfu.ca
Ralph Montejo
Don't trip, it might be made up after
Cube and Dre get together and do dat
"Helter Skelter" shit!
Besides, that's just fonk-e west coast
flava with a gangsta-smooth vibe. He can
do dat, PACE!
"Sidewayz to da next light!"
"Hittin' DO-NUTS in a tray SIDEWAYZ, TO DA,
NEXT LIGHT........ and my S__T tight,.."
-C.D.
18th Letta
The "R"
Joshua A. Goldstein
a's Most Wanted are 2 of the best albums ever.I was very disappointed. Cube
is no longer one of the artists whose album I will pick up without hearing more
than 1 or 2 songs. Oh well.
JAG
Roland Juno 106
>know he's married and has a familly now but he's lost that ruthless edge.
Ice Cube is a studio gangster man. He isnt shit. A friend of mine (Todd
Brown) got signed to Hammers label as an r&b singer, and one of the times
he was down in LA, Hammer, Todd, and a few other people were eating at
the same place as Cube and some people from his camp.. I guess Cube was
talking shit under his breathe about getting Hammer for talking shit on
his last record.. Hammer overheard and got up about it, and Cube stayed
in his seat like a bitch. I guess he said he didnt want any trouble, but
Cube got socked a few times and then he and his camp cut out. You can
probably check out the court papers on that since I think they are public
records..
>BTW, who's responsible for the crappy recording of Predator? As the producer is that Cube's job? It sounds like an AM radio broadcast. Doggystyle and the
>Chronic are about the best CD quality I've ever heard out of rap music. (should
>we thank Dre for that?)
The engineer or the mastering lab.
fam...@indy4.microunity.com
> know he's married and has a familly now but he's lost that ruthless edge.
I don't think so, just growing as an artist and man.
> BTW, who's responsible for the crappy recording of Predator? As the producer is that Cube's job? It sounds like an AM radio broadcast. Doggystyle and the
> Chronic are about the best CD quality I've ever heard out of rap music. (should
> we thank Dre for that?)
I don't know, but that bugge the s_it outta me, also. Dre's shot is quite fat in all respects;
production, sound quality, etc....
> One last thing, when is Eazy's full length album coming out?
How care?
> - Mike
> spe...@sfu.ca
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Nnonyelum L. Morah
In a previous article, fam...@indy4.microunity.com () says:
>> One last thing, when is Eazy's full length album coming out?
>
>How care?
IMHO, if there was no Eric Wright, there would be no Cube, Dre, Ren, DOC,
Snoop etc. Being the executive producer, he was one of the main ones to
make it happen for the Compton scene. Besides, I'm not taking sides in the
big Dre/Eazy showdown. I have my opinions, but I have love for them both.
<STEPPING DOWN FROM THE SOAPBOX...>
Back to the release date, it's suppose to drop in April, but as we all
know, it may not be until January or whatever.
Peace.
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nl...@po.CWRU.Edu (Nnonyelum L. Morah) writes:
>
>
>In a previous article, fam...@indy4.microunity.com () says:
>
>>> One last thing, when is Eazy's full length album coming out?
>>
>>How care?
>
>IMHO, if there was no Eric Wright, there would be no Cube, Dre, Ren, DOC,
>Snoop etc. Being the executive producer, he was one of the main ones to
>make it happen for the Compton scene. Besides, I'm not taking sides in the
>big Dre/Eazy showdown. I have my opinions, but I have love for them both.
>
><STEPPING DOWN FROM THE SOAPBOX...>
>
E" Wright was able to launch the other NWA members' careers was because he had
the money - money from dealin'. Thus he just became the executive producer
cuz he did have the money. Eazy wouldn't have made it as far as he did if he
didn't have Cube writing for him back in the day. Who knows whos writing for
him now? I know NWA didn't sound the same on Efil4zaggin without Cube, which
meant that not Eazy or any of 'em could write anything great. So Eazy, if he
does have a good sound now, probably has someone else writing for him, cuz he
sure as hell can't write it himself. Dre's shit is written by D.O.C. and Snoop
which is why he's done so good. Anyway, the point being that any of 'em with
the money could have started themselves (NWA) out. Eazy was just a hoodlum
looking for a way out and found a wise investment. Cube, Ren, or Dre could
just as easily have dealt and come up with some money to get the ball rolling.
Now we all know who the better lyricists/rappers are. Now I would just like to
see an NWA reunion with or without Eazy. As long as Cube, Dre, Ren, and Yella
are there it would be slammin'. Any other opinions? This isn't a flame, just
my opinion. Peace.
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Phife
Lethal Injection and Death Certificate are MUCH better than AmeriKKKa's and
Predator. L.I. is phat, incredibly phat. You need to listen to it again.
I remember I read an article about L.I. being flat, and some of my friends
said itt was wack. I borrowed it for a coupla days and just listened to it,
and I'll admit I thought it was wack except track 4. Then I let it just run
in my room while I computed. Soon, I was singing all of the songs. Lethal
Injection is one of the only CD's I have with more than 1 or 2 great songs.
Incredible flow and beats.
Phife
>>Is it just me or has Ice Cube mellowed out too much. After listening to PredatorI was expecting something hard core. IMO, Lethal Injection is only mediocre. I
>>know he's married and has a familly now but he's lost that ruthless edge.
>Ice Cube is a studio gangster man. He isnt shit. A friend of mine (Todd
>Brown) got signed to Hammers label as an r&b singer, and one of the times
>he was down in LA, Hammer, Todd, and a few other people were eating at
>the same place as Cube and some people from his camp.. I guess Cube was
>talking shit under his breathe about getting Hammer for talking shit on
>his last record.. Hammer overheard and got up about it, and Cube stayed
>in his seat like a bitch. I guess he said he didnt want any trouble, but
>Cube got socked a few times and then he and his camp cut out. You can
>probably check out the court papers on that since I think they are public
>records..
That is the fakest shit I have heard in a long time. I know Cube ain't a gangsta anymore, but you are actually saying that Hammer is harder than Ice Cube?
You want to rewrite what you wrote above? Check out those records and get back
to us. Anyways, you think Cube's bodyguard is gonna actually allow M.C. Hammer
to punch him? I've seen Cube's bodyguard and he's notstabe fucked with. I
doubt it Cube even listened to Hammer's wack ass shit record. I about puked
listening to my 9 year old brother's copy.
Roland Juno 106
You shouldnt have to listen to an album 10 times before you start to like it.
LI gets no play in my car or my jeep except for Ghetto Bird and Lil Ass Gee..
Personally I think the production on the album is junk.. Overall I think
Cube is starting to fall off.. Helter Skelter is the last chance Cube
will get to prove to me he still has juice..
Roland Juno 106
>>Brown) got signed to Hammers label as an r&b singer, and one of the times
>>he was down in LA, Hammer, Todd, and a few other people were eating at
>>the same place as Cube and some people from his camp.. I guess Cube was
>>talking shit under his breathe about getting Hammer for talking shit on
>>his last record.. Hammer overheard and got up about it, and Cube stayed
>>in his seat like a bitch. I guess he said he didnt want any trouble, but
>>Cube got socked a few times and then he and his camp cut out. You can
>>probably check out the court papers on that since I think they are public
>>records..
>
>That is the fakest shit I have heard in a long time. I know Cube ain't a gangsta anymore, but you are actually saying that Hammer is harder than Ice Cube?
>You want to rewrite what you wrote above? Check out those records and get back
>to us. Anyways, you think Cube's bodyguard is gonna actually allow M.C. Hammer
>to punch him? I've seen Cube's bodyguard and he's notstabe fucked with. I
>doubt it Cube even listened to Hammer's wack ass shit record. I about puked
>listening to my 9 year old brother's copy.
Ice Cube is nothing when it comes to being rough.. He was never in a
gang either.. Ice Cube is one of the biggest studio gangsters there
is.. Growing up in the rural suburbs, and claiming Compton.. Shit..
Cubes bodygaurd isnt Hercules.. Luke and 3 people from his camp beat
Cubes ass, along with the entire Lench Mob at a New Music Seminar about 3
years ago.. And the year after that, Above The Law beat down the Lench
Mob as well.. Cube cut out in the middle of it..
This is exactly what Im talkin about.. Too many people believe the shit
they hear on a record or see on a video.. Thinking that people are rough
because they talk rough and look rough..
Joshua A. Goldstein
redator and Most Wanted I knew right away that they were great albums. I didn't
get that feeling with L.I.
Gordon Craick
>Is it just me or has Ice Cube mellowed out too much. After listening to PredatorI was expecting something hard core. IMO, Lethal Injection is only mediocre. I
>know he's married and has a familly now but he's lost that ruthless edge.
A lot of the reason for the hardcore stuff is due to anger. Maybe he is
more happy now that he has more to live for? Predator I don't believe is
any softer than say Kill at Will, etc. A lot less of the bitch shit but
that sort of stuff doesn't get many people anyway. At least he hasn't
gone the way of Dre and sold out for pop shit..NWA was one of the hardest
(or reported) hardest groups and caused outrage with Fuck the Police -
times have changed though. At least we still have the Ice (T), the
original father of gangster rap keeping up the tradition with Bodycount
and cop-killer. I guess that couldn't be called strictly rap, but it is
still heavy..
>BTW, who's responsible for the crappy recording of Predator? As the producer is that Cube's job? It sounds like an AM radio broadcast. Doggystyle and the
>Chronic are about the best CD quality I've ever heard out of rap music. (should
>we thank Dre for that?)
That is probably deliberate. Perfect rap along with any other sort of
perfected mixing and crap really takes the edge of any rap albumn. Rough
mixing is the old style..
>One last thing, when is Eazy's full length album coming out?
>- Mike
>spe...@sfu.ca
l8r
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: every year. It's understandable that folks 'll think that he's got to fall off.I think Cube's just too bright. I know I'm gonna keep buyin' his shit. Fuck
: what they're sayin', I think Lethal's better than the Chronic.
: I know what you meant buy you shouldn't have to listen to a cd 10 times
: before it gets good, but that's what MAKES good cd's, I think. I mean, check
: it, you find a coupla good cutts the first time you listen, then after a while,
: another, and another... It makes the cd last longer. Del tha Funke's first
: cd is a perfect example.
: Phife
Yo, if you think lethal is better than chronic you need to check
again. Dre's production on Chronic was the best ever seen in the rap
industry. Regardless of wether you like west coast or not, you gotta
hand him his props. The guy who produced most of the tracks on Lethal,
Q D III is just another Dre wanna be. I'll admit, Chronic got played
like a bitch, but every time I listen to that shit, I still come off
with something new. It'll be somethin else to see the two kids workin
together in Helter though. Until then, you can't tell me Lethal is
better.
Sneaky
Malcolm D. Moore
>Joshua A. Goldstein <JG8...@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>>I didn't care much for Lethal Injection either. I think Predator and AmeriKKK
>>a's Most Wanted are 2 of the best albums ever.I was very disappointed. Cube
>>is no longer one of the artists whose album I will pick up without hearing more
>> than 1 or 2 songs. Oh well.
>>JAG
>Lethal Injection and Death Certificate are MUCH better than AmeriKKKa's and
>Predator. L.I. is phat, incredibly phat.
as a person who owns all 4 alblums, i'll have to say...not.
i don't knwo how anyone could think lethal injection was better than
_amerikkka's_. if i had to rate all 4 alblums, i'd rate them so:
1. amerikkka's
2. death certificate
3. predator
4. lethal injection
yup, in the same order in which they were released...cube has been
sliding as of late. back in 90 i remember playin cube and the geto
boys when i was out in cali for the summer.
as far as lethal injection goes, i think "down for whatever" and the
song before it are the best, but it just had too many weak tracks to
give it a "good ice cube ablum" stamp. the other three had no
problems. amerikkka's i listed to every song but one. on this track
it's sorta the other way around.
You need to listen to it again.
>I remember I read an article about L.I. being flat, and some of my friends
>said itt was wack. I borrowed it for a coupla days and just listened to it,
>and I'll admit I thought it was wack except track 4. Then I let it just run
>in my room while I computed. Soon, I was singing all of the songs. Lethal
>Injection is one of the only CD's I have with more than 1 or 2 great songs.
>Incredible flow and beats.
oun't thank so.
-mr. hoodrat
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"well damn, Short, if it wasn't for earthquakes, rampant crime
and a lifeless economy, i'd agree witcha." - me
Phife
I'm still gonna say it though... I mean, it's my opinion, right? ;)
That's cool though, you know, I think tthere are phat ass ttracks on
Chronic, but I don't like some of the rappers.... I think that Rage is
weak, and some of the skits were just plain wack... Cube always has good
skits between songs and nice mixing inbetween that I think Dre just doesn't
have mastered yet. My .02
Phife
>i don't knwo how anyone could think lethal injection was better than
>_amerikkka's_. if i had to rate all 4 alblums, i'd rate them so:
>1. amerikkka's
>2. death certificate
>3. predator
>4. lethal injection
>yup, in the same order in which they were released...cube has been
>sliding as of late. back in 90 i remember playin cube and the geto
>boys when i was out in cali for the summer.
I got all four and listen to them all, Cube's the phattest rapper in my book,
by far... Actually I got a fuckin' 3'x6' poster of him right next to my bed.
I think my ranking would be:
1. DC
2. LI
3. Amerikka's
4. Predator
Amerikka's and Predator very close together... It's not that I dislike any
of these albums, I listen to all of them, on a regular basis. I love funk,
and Lethal Injection was much funkier than his first, Amerikkka's... Predator
was wack, I think... I'll listten to Check Yo Self and Gangsta Fairytale II,
but that's it... Amerikkka's has a coupla his best tracks ever made, but
the other side is weak... There is not a song on Death Certificat I do not like... I let that play forever, cannot get tired of it. IT has the BEST rap song
ever made oon it, Color Blind. Phat, Phat, Phat!
Roland Juno 106
I have a small studio in my house that I do rough drafts in.. And in
there, I have a big huge poster of Cube.. Its a promotional poster for
St. Ides.. black & white, with a tall can in the corner, in color, and
their little red wiggle logo on the other side..
tony dhaliwal
I have to say that Cube and Dre are both dope as shit. But they
also have different places where they are comin from as far as their
albums are concerned. Dre is more into tons of sampling and Cube is into
sampling as well, but I think that CUbe gets more live vocals in his
music. Also, CUbe raps about social shit, shit like racism, what's goin
on , and what's gonna go on in the next few months. Dre raps about how
fly he is, or shit that he has stories about (creepin down the back street
on D's....... Rollin in my 6-4). I like them both, but I think that L I
is a little better, but not much since they rap about different shit,
than D Day.
Snoops album was good, but it could have been better. They rushed
it.
Now, about Cube gettin soft...... I don't think so. Any artists
debut album is always their best. I still can think of at least 5 songs
on each of cubes albums that got tha funk.
David Chung
>md...@netcom.com (Malcolm D. Moore) writes:
>
>>i don't knwo how anyone could think lethal injection was better than
>>_amerikkka's_. if i had to rate all 4 alblums, i'd rate them so:
>
>>1. amerikkka's
>>2. death certificate
>>3. predator
>>4. lethal injection
>
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>Actually I got a fuckin' 3'x6' poster of him right next to my bed.
>I think my ranking would be:
>
>1. DC
>2. LI
>3. Amerikka's
>4. Predator
>
>Amerikka's and Predator very close together... It's not that I dislike any
>of these albums, I listen to all of them, on a regular basis. I love funk,
>and Lethal Injection was much funkier than his first, Amerikkka's... Predator
>was wack, I think... I'll listten to Check Yo Self and Gangsta Fairytale II,
>but that's it... Amerikkka's has a coupla his best tracks ever made, but
>the other side is weak... There is not a song on Death Certificat I do not
like
>... I let that play forever, cannot get tired of it. IT has the BEST rap
song
>ever made oon it, Color Blind. Phat, Phat, Phat!
>
I agree with the above order (DC-LI-Amerkkka's-Pred)...but IMO, the top
three are all phat and Predator falls off a bit. Cube can still write
crazy good rhymes and always has nice beats on his albums...Helter Skelter
should be no different. BTW, my favorite song by Cube is still "My
Summer Vacation" off DC. Back then, "Atomic Dog" was still a relatively
fresh sample.
-DCcreep