On 7/17/2017 10:36 AM, Steven Douglas wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 8:59:08 PM UTC-7, docufo wrote:
>> On 7/13/2017 12:09 PM, Steven Douglas wrote:
>>
>>> You are aware that Hadley CRU is where the email scandal took
>>> place, aren't you? Or maybe you've not, if you were relying
>>> on Brian Williams for your news.
>>>
>>> As for NASA and NOAA, there's this:
>>>
>>> Headline: "Exposed: How world leaders were duped into
>>> investing billions over manipulated global warming data"
>>>
>>>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
>>
>> You must know as well as I that the humongous investments in fossil fuel
>> energy by the 2% made it necessary to politicize a humanitarian issue.
>
> It's being politicized by people like Al Gore, who has
> managed to enrich himself with this huge scam. It's also
> being politicized by people such as you (and other leftists),
> who hate free enterprise and hope to bring it to its knees
> someday.
That didn't happen at the turn of the 20th century. New energies,
electricity and fossil fuel refinement for transportation, presented an
excellent fertile ground for "free enterprise" before the new sources
and technologies were corralled by a greedy few at the very top.
One wouldn't expect that human behavior in accumulating wealth and power
will be magically absent from those invested in alternative energies.
But its the pollution and its massive environmentally negative impact
that needs to be the priority. We can change that positively, but likely
not the behavior that exploits the new energy technologies to benefit a
relative few the most.
>>
>> The issue being the cleaning up of what is known fact: enormous amounts
>> of unhealthy greenhouse emissions from industry and our daily
>> lifestyles. And known fact number 2: that carbon dioxide is the primary
>> pollutant
>
> Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. If you are so confused
> that you actually believe that, you should stop breathing.
It is a pollutant in the concentrations recorded. It is classified,
therefore, as a pollutant. I quote liberally:
Although it has some very important and beneficial effects, CO2 meets
the legal and encyclopedic definitions of a "pollutant", and human CO2
emissions pose a threat to public health and welfare.
Climate Myth...
CO2 is not a pollutant
'To suddenly label CO2 as a "pollutant" is a disservice to a gas that
has played an enormous role in the development and sustainability of all
life on this wonderful Earth. Mother Earth has clearly ruled that CO2 is
not a pollutant.' (Robert Balling, as quoted by Popular Technology)
Before assessing whether or not CO2 is a pollutant, we must first define
the term.
What is an Air Pollutant?
The US Clean Air Act was incorporated into the United States Code of
Federal Regulations, Title 42, Chapter 85. Its Title III, Section
7602(g) defines an air pollutant:
The term “air pollutant” means any air pollution agent or combination of
such agents, including any physical, chemical, biological, radioactive
(including source material, special nuclear material, and byproduct
material) substance or matter which is emitted into or otherwise enters
the ambient air.
Clearly this is a very broad definition. More importantly, its Title
42, Section 7408 states that the US Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA) Administrator must publish a list of certain air pollutants:
"emissions of which, in his judgment, cause or contribute to air
pollution which may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public health
or welfare"
In Massachusetts v. Environmental Protection Agency (in 2007), the US
Supreme Court held that the Clean Air Act gives the EPA the authority to
regulate tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases. Two years after the
Supreme Court ruling, in 2009 the EPA issued an endangerment finding
concluding that
"greenhouse gases in the atmosphere may reasonably be anticipated both
to endanger public health and to endanger public welfare....The major
assessments by the U.S. Global Climate Research Program (USGCRP), the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and the National
Research Council (NRC) serve as the primary scientific basis supporting
the Administrator’s endangerment finding."
Greenhouse gases including CO2 unquestionably fit the Clean Air Act's
broad definition of "air pollutants," and must be listed and regulated
by the EPA if it can be determined that they endanger public heath
and/or welfare.
Alternatively, the definition of "pollution" from Encyclopedia
Brittanica is:
"the addition of any substance (solid, liquid, or gas) or any form of
energy (such as heat, sound, or radioactivity) to the environment at a
rate faster than it can be dispersed, diluted, decomposed, recycled, or
stored in some harmless form."
Thus legally in the USA, CO2 is an air pollutant which must be regulated
if it may endanger public health or welfare. And according to the
encyclopedic definition, CO2 is a pollutant unless our emissions can be
stored "harmlessly."
https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-pollutant-advanced.htm
>>
>> that is acting as an unnatural blanket holding the surface
>> heat. Such extra heat will have an impact on the weather cycles that
>> wouldn't ordinarily occur sans human activity.
>
> You're saying we wouldn't have weather cycles without human
> activity? Are you really that ignorant?
>
I said what I said, if you could be honest or smart enough to read it
plainly. I am talking entirely about the unnatural level of the C02, way
beyond what the Earth naturally creates. Ice core samples show the
current concentration is far beyond the past levels. The rate of
increase is also beyond past records.
You might want to ask yourself how important is your radicalized
ideology that will help impede progress in getting the public to fully
understand the environmental impact of human pollution, and know that
it's a humanitarian issue that is critical to every thing that breathes,
eats, and drinks?
You and your furry fiends are fools, junior. You and they have enjoyed a
politicization of this humanitarian issue, as you and they did for years
with a guaranteed safety-net national healthcare system, to the
detriment of human health on a mass level. You and they don't care about
living a saner, healthier lifestyle, to lessen wars, to protect and
preserve all living things.
Shame on you and them, shame on your Donald for exiting the Paris
climate group. Maybe his pal Macron will convince him of reentering the
group, or maybe Macron's lovely wife can, uh, persuade him in a more
effective manner. I think she needs to show more cleavage for him.
What do you think? Maybe she ought to let him grab her pussy?
^Y^
V