Google blocks Tor requests

[Dave U. Random]

For some stupid reason Google is refusing to return search results when
you are accessing their page through the Tor network. I'm therefore
boycotting them and moving to Bing for my Tor web
searches.

I believe Google will eventually be hurt by this since the many Tor
users might decide they like Bing or at the very least its usage might
increase.

It's another example of companies being penny wise and pound foolish.

[Anonymous]

I fine that it sometimes work, sometimes doesn't. The
https://startpage.com suggestion seems nice. I guess it uses
google and google can't see your Tor connection to startpage.
Screw you, google! Democrat freedom/privacy hateing commies! You
fools. There are many ways to bypass your stupidity.

[Anonymous]

In article <fb6214f19f169a77c3f8b6d57a9e30c2@anonymitaet-im-
inter.net>

It's another example of google deciding that revenue producing
profiled targets come first. Thousands of anonymous profiles
from the same IP / geo location doesn't make them any money.

[Nomen Nescio]

> I fine that it sometimes work, sometimes doesn't. The
> https://startpage.com suggestion seems nice. I guess it uses
> google and google can't see your Tor connection to startpage.
> Screw you, google! Democrat freedom/privacy hateing commies! You
> fools. There are many ways to bypass your stupidity.
>

The government changes google search results. I assume US government.
Startpage is based on google results.

Moral: Don't get stuck on either one, use multiple search engines.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't trust Bing either. Billy Boy Gates has some really
strange beliefs. Satan is alive and well and into the minds of
liberals everwhere.

[Shadow]

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:45:02 GMT, Anonymous <anon...@hoi-polloi.org>
wrote:

>> For some stupid reason Google is refusing to return search results when
>> you are accessing their page through the Tor network. I'm therefore
>> boycotting them and moving to Bing for my Tor web
>> searches.

.....

> I fine that it sometimes work, sometimes doesn't. The
>https://startpage.com suggestion seems nice. I guess it uses
>google and google can't see your Tor connection to startpage.
>Screw you, google! Democrat freedom/privacy hateing commies! You
>fools. There are many ways to bypass your stupidity.

Communist = State runs the country
Right Wing = Big companies run the country
Democratic= People run the country

Google can't be communist, by definition, unless the state
owns it.
HTH
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[Anonymous Remailer (austria)]

> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:45:02 GMT, Anonymous <anon...@hoi-polloi.org>
> wrote:


> >> For some stupid reason Google is refusing to return search results when
> >> you are accessing their page through the Tor network. I'm therefore
> >> boycotting them and moving to Bing for my Tor web
> >> searches.

> .....

> > I fine that it sometimes work, sometimes doesn't. The
> > https://startpage.com suggestion seems nice. I guess it uses
> > google and google can't see your Tor connection to startpage.
> > Screw you, google! Democrat freedom/privacy hateing commies! You
> > fools. There are many ways to bypass your stupidity.

> Communist = State runs the country
> Right Wing = Big companies run the country
> Democratic= People run the country

You fool! Democrat = gorvernment bureaucrats run the country.
He has obviously blinded himself to what is going on with the
Holder justice department and IRS. I would suggest to him that he
needs to pull his head out of the sand, but being a democrat, his
head is obviously up his ass.

[Shadow]

Though you do have a point there. No way "The Internet"
financed Obama's right wing government. Probably the same BIG
COMPANIES that financed Bush. "The Internet" is a novel way of saying
"I can't reveal my sources".
Bush and Obama are just figureheads.
When "patriot acts" (anti-privacy acts), Guantanamo (700
released after years of torture revealed they were innocent = OMG),
invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan (weapons of mass destruction ? -
LOL), and criminalization of marijuana are duly seen to, you can call
yourselves a democracy again.
That's what "Democracy" means. The majority of people deciding
what's best for the country. Not some CEO from Google (55 thousand
million revenue) or KBR (10 thousand million revenue).
See what Fox (15 thousand million revenue) says about it all.
I'm sure they are trustworthy, looking out for YOU, the average
American citizen.......
;)

[Anonymous]

Hopefully you lose your job when Obama and his ilk destroy the
American economy. And hopefully you never can get one again.
Companies don't need free enterprise haters like you working for
them. The quicker your types are craving water in the place you
probably think doesn't even exist - hell, the better society will
be.
Companies are not angels, but they shine like the sun compared to
you godless, government loving liberals.

> "I can't reveal my sources".
> Bush and Obama are just figureheads.
> When "patriot acts" (anti-privacy acts), Guantanamo (700
> released after years of torture revealed they were innocent = OMG),

Only bleeding heart liberals are concerned about the welfare of
murderers.

> invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan (weapons of mass destruction ? -

> ), and criminalization of marijuana are duly seen to, you can call
> yourselves a democracy again.
> That's what "Democracy" means.

You don't have the slightest idea what America is about. America
is not a "Democracy". It is a Representative Republic.

[Shadow]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:14:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
<anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:


>> Though you do have a point there. No way "The Internet"
>> financed Obama's right wing government. Probably the same BIG
>> COMPANIES that financed Bush. "The Internet" is a novel way of saying
>
> Hopefully you lose your job when Obama and his ilk destroy the
>American economy.

Obama and "His ilk" (I suppose you mean Bush) have been
destroying your economy for over a decade. Our unemployment is around
5% here. How are you doing ?

> Companies are not angels, but they shine like the sun compared to
>you godless, government loving liberals.

Sure I'm an Atheist. Aren't we all ? I am not a liberal,
although most you certainly are. Look up "Classic liberalism" on the
wiki. That redneck scrapbook has it all wrong.

> You don't have the slightest idea what America is about. America
>is not a "Democracy".

Quite right, not any more . You are amazingly well informed,
even with your local media feeding you lies every day. I'm sure you
must read a lot. Hurry, before they classify books as "terrorist
threats".
[]'s

Shall we go back to the subject "Why isn't your government
fighting Google's invasion of privacy ? " Google has been at it for a
decade. There must be a reason.

[Anonymous]

<flush>

Just wanted to let you know that I flushed you answers without
reading them. I see no reason to wallow in liberal shit.

[Bubba]

Here's an equivocal phrase that has two very different meanings:

"People get the government they deserve."

I interpret this to mean that it is the powerful militant warlords, their
gangs of bloodthirsty armed thugs, and their ruthless, greedy, arrogant,
totally amoral financiers who form governments from their inception by
raping, pilliaging, plundering, conquering, and occupying.

Government is organized crime that is always invariably fascist by their
modus operandi. Vague political labels like "liberal," "conservative,"
"democrat," "republican," "independent," and so forth are convenient
diversions from how corporate-governments actually function. It is
always about greed and arrogance, and imposing by brute force and threat
of force against the various populations of people they seek to own and
control by every means available to them, including blackmail, bribery,
extortion, theft, confiscation, imminent domain, imprisonment, military
draft, torture, murder, mass muder, brainwashing, "winning hearts and
minds," "change you can believe in," "you've got the vote," and the list
goes on.

Most people don't realize how carefully scripted and orchestrated the
corporate-government- controlled media is. Not only their "news" media,
but also their scripted film, television, radio, and other media that
is designed to control the minds of the masses. There have obviously
been some notable exceptions, e.g., the scripted series 'The Sopranos,'
the film 'The Matrix,' and classical music radio, to name a few.

All corporate-governments, their military-industrial complexes, their
infrastructures, their vast wealth, their extravagant and debaucherous
lifestyles, their economies, their banks, their "greed is good" usury
markets, etc., all of them depend on Big Oil to grease the wheels of
progress, and they depend on their military intelligence script writers
to brainwash everyone they can in a highly compartmentalized and "need
to know" fashion. The late 1960s and early 1970s "apollo moon landings"
propaganda was a quintessential example of how easily most people could
be duped without ever being the wiser. The combination of big rockets,
big control rooms, radio interviews, crude lunaresque soundstages, and
"space capsules" descending to the ocean surface by parachute was
enough to convince almost everyone involved with "apollo" projects and
almost everyone who watched and listened on the television that living
humans had actually made it all the way to the Moon and back not only
once but six times without injury or death. Big Al Einstein said that
there are two thing that are infinite. If he had said "gullibility"
instead of "stupidity," he would have touched the thing with a needle.

Militaries have always viewed everyone and everything as a potential
weapon that they can use, hence could also be used against them. Words
and pictures make for powerful weapons in the hands of the "mainstream"
corporat-government- controlled media. The public are brainwashed from
their youth, beginning with "I pledge allegiance to the flag..." and
compulsory indoctrination-education systems. By the time these unwary
children reach adulthood, most of them will not even be aware that they
were brainwashed since the day they were born.

It has been my experience that the vast majority of people really don't
want to know how the world works, preferring instead the hypocritical
"finger-pointing" and "scapegoating" approach. The way that the
corporate-governments around the world portray themselves to the public
is universal in this regard. This is the old, tried-and-true practice
of "divide and conquer." They invent boogeymen to demonize via their
scripted media, confident that their gullible brainwashed "subjects"
will play along. A few "false flag" atrocities here and there serve to
lend credence to their propaganda campaigns driven by daily cycles of
repetition and the fatiguing "follow the bouncing ball"-style news and
talk show media. All of it is carefully scripted and coordinated to
distract, confuse, obfuscate, frustrate, and frighten the unwary into
submission and obedience.

My advice is to be very selective and discriminating about what you
watch on television, listen to on radio, or any other form of media
which the corporate-government might control. Network and cable
television scripted series, and television and radio talk shows, are
notorious for misleading their audiences. Agent provocateurs like
Alex Jones, Howard Riell, Jesse Ventura, et al, are especially skilled
at luring listeners into the illusion that "getting angry" and "waking
up" is going to result in any real and meaningful damage to the ruling
corporate-government oligarchy. This scripted technique works like a
pressure cooker that continually vents steam in order to prevent it
from building up too much pressure and rupturing or exploding. The
proletariat "99%" are powerless to vanquish their "1%" oppressors, so
the most they can do is to vent their anger and frustration by public
demonstrations, riots, vandalism, computer hacking, and other proven
ineffective activities. This prevents the 99% from "exploding" into a
full scale military revolt against the heavily guarded 1%.

Television talk shows like "Dr. Phil" are scripted to convince viewers
that unquestioning obedience to the 1% is normal behavior, and that
disobedience and questioning authority is forbidden. "Judge Judy" is
another example of a pompous megalomaniacal control-freak that loves
to see government-sanctioned brute force and intimidation inflicted on
the poor and powerless. The "Criminal Justice" system is well-named
because it's big business that is very profitable for the professional
criminals who run it.

--
Bub

[Shadow]

That kind of sums it up, though I don't believe the 1% at the
top are as competent as you picture them. A lot are heirs and don't
have half the intelligence their fathers had.
And the system does "break". Here in Brazil in 2002 we had a
country with a massive foreign debt, salaries that did not even cover
the cost of food, all the media was run by a handful of foreign-owned
companies, and most issues were solved with gunfire. Slavery was the
norm.
A "good" guy got in, and in eight years the country was
unrecognizable, we are 50% towards being civilized. Not a single shot
fired. So it IS possible, but only when the 1% get too greedy, and a
true patriot takes over. The trouble is BOTH have to happen
simultaneously. Not something that happens twice in a century.
FWIW
[]'s

PS

> "People get the government they deserve."

People get the government they vote for (in a Democracy),
although sometimes all candidates represent the same interests, so
they don't really have a choice. People don't deserve being
brainwashed since they are toddlers, you can't blame them for that.

[Shadow]

You just did, though I suppose the irony is wasted on you.
And you can't "flush" Google et al. Closing your eyes and pretending
they don't exist does NOT make them "go away". Mummy and Daddy lied.
[]'s

[Nomen Nescio]

In article <e4d8ee498a0caf5b...@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
Anonymous <anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:
>

Flush.

[Bubba]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:28:18 +0200 (CEST), Bubba <Bub@ba> wrote:
>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:14:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
>>><anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>

snip
> ...The "Criminal Justice" system is well-named

>>because it's big business that is very profitable for the professional
>>criminals who run it.
>
> That kind of sums it up, though I don't believe the 1% at the
>top are as competent as you picture them. A lot are heirs and don't
>have half the intelligence their fathers had.

I've heard them referred to as "sociopaths." Power-grubbing control
freaks that were born without a conscience. They instigate so very
much evil and suffering in the world order to compensate for their
inherent amorality. They're like a serial killer that just can't
stop killing. It's like the sadistic "Belasco" character in the
classic film 'The Legend of Hell House,' "I must!, I must!" They
must always enslave, terrorize, and control the world.

> And the system does "break". Here in Brazil in 2002 we had a
>country with a massive foreign debt, salaries that did not even cover
>the cost of food, all the media was run by a handful of foreign-owned
>companies, and most issues were solved with gunfire. Slavery was the
>norm.

That sounds very much like a description of the United States today.
For every gunshot or stabbing victim reported, probably ten more go
unreported. Nobody trusts the police or the legal system, so most
people will choose not to report violent crimes even if they happen
to themselves. The draconian "austerity" measures eviscerating Europe
will soon find their way into the United States, a country with more
guns in circulation per capita than any other country in the world.

In the United States, slavery is called "debt" and "wage-slavery."
Student loans, for example, have produced a whole new generation of
debt-slaves that will never get their heads above water because the
criminals who run the banking cartels have made it impossible to
file bankruptcy on credit card debt, student loans, back-taxes,
child support, and other forms of imputed debt that enslaves the
masses.

> A "good" guy got in, and in eight years the country was
>unrecognizable, we are 50% towards being civilized. Not a single shot
>fired. So it IS possible, but only when the 1% get too greedy, and a
>true patriot takes over. The trouble is BOTH have to happen
>simultaneously. Not something that happens twice in a century.
> FWIW
> []'s
>

That's interesting, Brazil. I'm green with envy. I'm one of those
unfortunate enough to have been born in the zionist-occupied United
States, where the corruption in government and big business is so
utterly pervasive that George Orwell is rolling over in his grave.

> PS
>> "People get the government they deserve."
>
> People get the government they vote for (in a Democracy),
>although sometimes all candidates represent the same interests, so
>they don't really have a choice.

Here in the "US," elections at the State and Federal levels are not
elections at all, but are preplanned and scripted just like everything
else they do. I should have gone into the teleprompter business,
especially since high definition television has become so popular.
When HDTV first came into vogue, you could just see the teleprompters
reflecting off the newscasters eyes as the scripted words rolled on
the screen. But like everything else, they fixed that in a hurry so
they could rely on plausible deniability if someone brought it up.

> People don't deserve being
>brainwashed since they are toddlers, you can't blame them for that.
>

It is unfortunate that the young are so naturally gullible and naive.
Their young minds are like dry sponges soaking in everything moment of
their experience. Their parents were similarly brainwashed before
them as they were growing up, so the parents didn't know any better
either. And mothers are naturally inclined to nurture and protect
their young, so at least they have a reasonable excuse for protecting
their children from "growing up too fast" and learning about how the
world really works.

--
Bub

[Shadow]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 01:09:05 +0200 (CEST), Bubba <Bub@ba> wrote:

>> A "good" guy got in, and in eight years the country was
>>unrecognizable, we are 50% towards being civilized. Not a single shot
>>fired. So it IS possible, but only when the 1% get too greedy, and a
>>true patriot takes over. The trouble is BOTH have to happen
>>simultaneously. Not something that happens twice in a century.
>> FWIW
>> []'s
>>
>That's interesting, Brazil. I'm green with envy. I'm one of those
>unfortunate enough to have been born in the zionist-occupied United
>States, where the corruption in government and big business is so
>utterly pervasive that George Orwell is rolling over in his grave.

When I said "50% towards being civilized" , I meant that our
media is still owned by foreign companies, our justice department is
still corrupt, our senators and deputies still live off bribes( you
call them lobbies), 1% of the population still get 80% of the
country's wealth, and most people are owned by banks.
Don't be envious.
BUT 11 years ago 90% of the people believed the official
propaganda. It's down to under 10% now, and the people that do are not
intelligent enough to make a difference. They have to GIVE newspapers
and magazines away, nobody in interested in reading the official
version. I get free newspapers for my chicken coop. They absorb a lot
of shit, must be some kind of mutual attraction.
A "patriot act" or anything like it would be solemnly ignored
by both law enforcement and the general population.
I call that progress.
;)
[]'s

[Bubba]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 01:09:05 +0200 (CEST), Bubba <Bub@ba> wrote:
>
>>> A "good" guy got in, and in eight years the country was
>>>unrecognizable, we are 50% towards being civilized. Not a single shot
>>>fired. So it IS possible, but only when the 1% get too greedy, and a
>>>true patriot takes over. The trouble is BOTH have to happen
>>>simultaneously. Not something that happens twice in a century.
>>> FWIW
>>> []'s
>>>
>>That's interesting, Brazil. I'm green with envy. I'm one of those
>>unfortunate enough to have been born in the zionist-occupied United
>>States, where the corruption in government and big business is so
>>utterly pervasive that George Orwell is rolling over in his grave.
>
> When I said "50% towards being civilized" , I meant that our
>media is still owned by foreign companies, our justice department is
>still corrupt, our senators and deputies still live off bribes( you
>call them lobbies), 1% of the population still get 80% of the
>country's wealth, and most people are owned by banks.
> Don't be envious.

I was more thinking of all the wildlife I've read about and watched
on television that has been filmed down there. I mean panthers,
anacondas, and the greatest diversity of plant and animal lifeforms
great and small that dwarfs even that of Africa. I envy all life,
well almost all life. I just don't envy the rich. They are damned,
and of the few that I have actually met, they seem very discontent.
It's as if to get rich one must first sacrifice one's own soul and
happiness. I'd rather be happy and poor than rich and unhappy.

> BUT 11 years ago 90% of the people believed the official
>propaganda. It's down to under 10% now, and the people that do are not
>intelligent enough to make a difference. They have to GIVE newspapers
>and magazines away, nobody in interested in reading the official
>version. I get free newspapers for my chicken coop. They absorb a lot
>of shit, must be some kind of mutual attraction.

Must be. I used to work in the book and newspaper publishing busniess
as an independent consultant. It was always cash and carry, no checks
allowed. Back in the day, publishers were generally good with that.
Printed books can last, but newspapers were made for bird-cage lining.

> A "patriot act" or anything like it would be solemnly ignored
>by both law enforcement and the general population.
> I call that progress.
> ;)
> []'s

If law-enforcement agents are on the side of the general population,
you're doing a lot better than many parts of the United States. I'm
lucky because I live in an affluent mountain area populated mostly by
nature-lovers. The cops up here are really friendly and professional.
I'd hate to live or work in a large city like Chicago, NYC, or some
other metropolitan concrete jungle where cops and pretty much
everybody else are mean and dangerous by default. Mountain lions,
bears, elk, we all get along swimmingly in the mountain communities
and parks. Animals aren't the problem, people aren't the problem.
Big cities really do seem to be the problem.

--
Bub

[John Doe]

>> For some stupid reason Google is refusing to return search results when
>> you are accessing their page through the Tor network. I'm therefore
>> boycotting them and moving to Bing for my Tor web
>> searches.
>>

How google will make money on you, if he know nothing about you?
A lot of years I use nigma.ru instead of google.

> It's another example of google deciding that revenue producing
> profiled targets come first. Thousands of anonymous profiles
> from the same IP / geo location doesn't make them any money.

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