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Columbus Day, Racism & The Genocide of America's Indians.

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Abel

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Oct 10, 2010, 4:33:30 AM10/10/10
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Columbus Day is one of those American folklore traditions that has
evolved since the Europeans started to colonize this continent more
than 5 centuries ago, and it encompasses many myths, jokes, riddles,
legends and other forms of storytelling. Although, today's history
should recognize the fact that it was the Vikings who first discovered
America, more than 4 centuries before even Christopher Columbus did.
The pervasive story is that Columbus discovered America, because it is
far easier to elevate a man to heroic status than it is to contemplate
the reality of a complex series of waves of immigrants from multiple
conditions and walks of life.

Today, we are supposed to celebrate Columbus Day. But let us not
forget that after the Europeans settled the New World, several million
Native Americans were just plain exterminated in the process. This
ranks right up there with the genocide of the Jews and the genocide of
the Armenians.

President Andrew Jackson tried to portray his "Indian Removal Act" as
an undertaking of altruism, although it was nothing but a death march.
At the point of a thousand guns, the forced pace killed scores of the
young, the weak and the old. Disease, exposure and the forced feeding
of rotten foods killed the rest. Many walked the entire distance
without shoes & barely clothed, this was deliberately done in the
middle of a freezing winter snowstorm to maximize the deaths. Over
the years, millions would be eventually killed, as several Indian
tribes were subjected to this crime against humanity. At least one
fifth of the 15,000 Cherokee population was exterminated to death, in
just a matter of days, during this "Trail of Tears". The Cherokee's
mistake was to trust the white man more than any other tribe.
Something to think about today, as plenty of other people thru out the
world, especially the Middle East, ponder and think whether they
should trust to make any peace deals with the present white man's
government.

Andrew Jackson was considered popular back then. We had a government,
in the 1800's, drunk with power and in a fit of lust for land, had
removed nearly all the Indians from any gold rich and fertile
agricultural land, and displaced them to what amounted to nothing but
the most barren and useless lands on the continent, simply put, they
were exterminated in the process. Even to this day, the single
poorest American ethnic group are the American Indians, as most of
them still remain segregated in one of hundreds of impoverished ghetto-
like reservations scattered thru out the country.

The powerful and hard-hitting documentary called "American
Holocaust" (which is based on David Stannard's well researched book by
the same title) reveals a link between the Nazi holocaust (that
claimed at least 6 million Jews) and the American Holocaust (that
claimed, according to conservative estimates, 19 million Indigenous
People). It is seldom noted anywhere in fact, be it in textbooks or
on the internet, that Hitler studied Americas Indian policy, and used
it as a model for what he termed the final solution. He wasn't the
only one either, its well known that members of the National Party
government in South Africa studied the American approach before they
introduced the system of racial apartheid, which lasted from 1948 to
1994. Other fascist regimes, for instance, in South and Central
America, studied the same policy.

Columbus Day should be re-dedicated as a day to reverse the centuries
old injustices that have been perpetrated against the Native American
people and that continue to be perpetrated against them to this day.
Also, does it make sense any more to honor Andrew Jackson's face on
the $20 bill? A more appropriate suggestion, in my opinion, would be
to put Chief Sitting Bull on the $20 bill. Something to think
about.

Abel Malcolm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9tEQqCpew

http://www.pakistan.tv/videos-american-genocide-the-trail-of-tears-%5BWwA6paAayio%5D.cfm

Topaz

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Oct 10, 2010, 5:52:03 AM10/10/10
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Question: did Neanderthal man deserve to be eliminated by cro magnon
man? Probably not [I believe most literature attributes their
extinction at least in part to the encroachment of cro magnon into
their territories]. But we don't judge what apparently was the
natural sequence of events that lead us to...well... what we are
today. My point is that I keep hearing this argument about the native
American over and over and over ad infintum until my brain seems about
to burst. Whatever judgments we cast upon the situation today, much
of which has been a profound orchestration in the last few decades to
usher in multiculturism [by diminishing euro influence and settlement
of the world]...one simple fact screams out that we should all
consider. What else would a sane person imagine would happen when a
stone age culture comes into contact with a culture on the verge of
industrialization and exploding technology?
Let's get rid of this guilt trip baggage that we seem so obsessed with
today [what...over a hundred or more years after the fact] and realize
'IT WAS IN THE CARDS' that any stone age culture was going to vanish.
Perhaps we should consider what it might have been like if Ghingas
Kahn had showed up on American shores before Europeans. Oh, and let's
keep proper perspective on this 'ennobling' thingy, and realize how
'political it really is' when you study the true harshness of the way
of life such Native American culture engendered.
Who got a hold of our education institutions...wow have they done a
number on us. They took all the white hats away from us and handed
them our competitors.

tooly

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org

http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

Dave Heil

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Oct 10, 2010, 9:19:42 AM10/10/10
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On 10/10/2010 09 52, Topaz wrote:
>
> Question: did Neanderthal man deserve to be eliminated by cro magnon
> man? Probably not [I believe most literature attributes their
> extinction at least in part to the encroachment of cro magnon into
> their territories].

I maintain that Neanderthal Man is not extinct at all. For proof, I
point to your existence, Toupee.

Neolibertarian

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Oct 10, 2010, 11:03:41 AM10/10/10
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In article
<d75dbcd4-ce46-4b01...@t7g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
Abel <abelm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Columbus Day is one of those American folklore traditions that has
> evolved since the Europeans started to colonize this continent more
> than 5 centuries ago, and it encompasses many myths, jokes, riddles,
> legends and other forms of storytelling. Although, today's history
> should recognize the fact that it was the Vikings who first discovered
> America, more than 4 centuries before even Christopher Columbus did.

Actually, there is some evidence that the Carthaginians beat the Vikings
to the Continent by additional 1,000 years.

The problem for the Vikings and Carthaginians is that their discoveries
were short lived, and in the end, meaningless to later history.

> The pervasive story is that Columbus discovered America, because it is
> far easier to elevate a man to heroic status than it is to contemplate
> the reality of a complex series of waves of immigrants from multiple
> conditions and walks of life.
>
> Today, we are supposed to celebrate Columbus Day. But let us not
> forget that after the Europeans settled the New World, several million
> Native Americans were just plain exterminated in the process. This
> ranks right up there with the genocide of the Jews and the genocide of
> the Armenians.

No, it doesn't, since the American Indian genocide took place over three
hundred years and involved the Spaniards, English, French, Dutch,
Mexicans, Americans, et al, all acting independently.

There is much to celebrate on Columbus Day. We take both the joyous and
the tragic into account whenever we celebrate any national holiday,
including Columbus Day; including even the Fourth of July.

You do know, don't you, what the red stripes in the American flag
represent?

--
Neolibertarian

"[The American People] know that we don't have deficits
because people are taxed too little; we have deficits
because big government spends too much."
---Ronald Reagan

Neolibertarian

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Oct 10, 2010, 11:05:23 AM10/10/10
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In article <S3jso.2847$OB2...@newsfe02.iad>,
Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

Nah. By all accounts, Neanderthal was an intelligent creature.

Marcus Aurelius

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Oct 10, 2010, 7:18:53 PM10/10/10
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Although I condemn any historical unjust military aggression against
native Americans, the facts are that native Americans attempted their
own "holocaust against" European settlers from the day that the same
arrived in the New World. The first settlers in North America were
almost wiped out by a premeditated attempt by native Americans to kill
them all.
I served with native Americans in combat during the War in Vietnam.
They were excellent, brave, and skilled soldiers. There culture is one
of the "warrior"!
Native Americans are now "Americans". They deserve the respect and
honor that all Americans are due.

Abel

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Oct 11, 2010, 12:07:04 AM10/11/10
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Industrialization, technology and wealth, these are all great things,
but not a good excuse for exterminating the poorer and the less
fortunate members of our human race. We could have assimilated and
lived well with them, advanced both our civilizations together, we
really did not have to wipe them out like that. It is racism, pure
and simple. They had a different religion, a different language, a
different culture, and they looked different. These differences are a
reasons why we should have gotten to know each other more, and learn
from each other, these differences should NOT have been reasons to
hate them and kill them as we did.

Look, the whole problem, in a nutshell, it's all about racism, pure
and simple.

And if I'm creating a guilt trip, then it's a good thing, this guilt
trip is well deserved, and should serve as a catalyst to end the
discrimination right now, once and for all. To this day, Native
Americans are the single poorest ethnic group in America. We are
talking about American citizens, forced to live under 3rd world
conditions. We still have them trapped in these Indian Reservations,
some of which do not even have electrical power, where you can see the
electrical power lines go right over the Reservations, right over your
head, you see the power lines, but the American Indians are not
allowed to use those electrical power grids. These Indian
Reservations are managed, or rather mismanaged, by the United States
Department of the Interior's Bureau of Indian Affairs. As of today,
there are more than 300 Indian Reservations that exist, scattered thru
out the country, some Reservations are severely fragmented, with each
piece of tribal, individual, and privately held land being a separate
enclave. This jumble of private and public real estate creates
significant administrative and political/legal difficulties. The
collective geographical area of all reservations is 55.7 million
acres, representing 2.3% of the area of the United States. The
majority are located west of the Mississippi River, with limited
tribal sovereignty, some of them permit legal casinos on reservations
which attract tourists, but it also creates crime problems and drug
abuse and alcoholism. The tribal council, not the local or federal
government, generally has jurisdiction over reservations. Different
reservations have different systems of government, which may or may
not replicate the forms of government found outside the reservation.
Most Indian reservations were established by the federal government.

The name "reservation" comes from the conception of the Indian tribes
as independent sovereigns at the time the U.S. Constitution was
ratified. Thus, the early peace treaties (often signed under duress)
in which Indian tribes surrendered large portions of land to the U.S.
also designated parcels which the tribes, as sovereigns, "reserved" to
themselves, and those parcels came to be called "reservations." The
term remained in use even after the federal government began to
forcibly relocate tribes to parcels of land to which they had no
historical connection.

Presently, about half of all Native Americans and Alaska Natives live
somewhere other than the reservations, often in big western cities
such as Phoenix and Los Angeles.

Let's me put things in further perspective here. There were more than
300 peace treaties which the Americans Indians signed with the white
man, each and every one of those peace treaties were broken BY the
white man. Clearly, the biggest mistake that the American Indians ever
made was to believe in the concept that the white man can be trusted
to honor any kind of peace treaty.

http://www.answers.com/topic/indian-treaties

Topaz

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Oct 11, 2010, 6:58:16 AM10/11/10
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It's a Wonderful Race

by James Bronson
There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it
all. One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his
father. The argument began when the young student tried to explain to
his father that as White people, they should be held accountable for
all the evils that they had inflicted upon non-Whites throughout
history. George explained: "Because of European racism, we stole the
Indians' land, we held blacks in slavery, we persecuted the Jews, and
we plundered the environment. We've been oppressive racists for
thousands of years so it's only fair that we pay economic reparations
for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm pleased to see that we
are ending our political and economic domination of the oppressed
peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko
nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie
college professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology
professor, Dr.Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr.
Silverstein is a well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just
don't understand because you were raised in a White supremacist racist
society. That's why I've come to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as
the greatest man in American history. He stood up to the racists of
your generation. Because of him, my generation of White kids is
completely colorblind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bullshit! I've always been
fair-minded and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I
haven't 'oppressed' anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong
with being proud of one's own people, including the European race of
people. Your race is in your blood. It's like an extension of your
biological family and you ought to be proud of your European heritage
and identity, just like every other racial group in America is proud
of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong sense of racial
identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's
the kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were
discredited years ago. There's only one race and that's the human
race. Diversity is our greatest strength. Differences in so-called
"race" are as insignificant as differences in belly buttons. And
besides, UN statistics now show that low White birth rates, along with
the fact that we live in an multicultural
society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist
culture will have died out by the end of the century," young George
said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché
you know that boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European
peoples of the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young
George replied; "I think it's great! It will mean the end of racism
and the end of hate. The oppressed peoples of the world would have
been better off if us racist Europeans had never existed to begin
with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge
smoke cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone
and lost in a cold open field. An angel named Clarence then appeared
to him and said "Well George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
to show you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or
Whites, had never existed. You now live in a world where Europeans
never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a
racist bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able
to tell my professor and my friends how great this non-racist world
was. Say, I'm freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest
motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once
called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains
where you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in
non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build
them. Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would
you like to go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay
in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a
cave I suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second,
are these Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some
Indians were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it
doesn't mean they all were" said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism.
Nonetheless, I'd feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if
they turn out to be violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend
yourself with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though we
could make a spear with those twigs over there."

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians
to ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here.
Alexander Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed.
No Europeans remember?" "Forget it then" replied George. "I'll sleep
in the damn cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a
lighter so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence.
"There are no lighters here, and no matches. Those are European
gadgets and evil Europeans never existed remember? If you want to get
warm, you need to do like the locals do and start rubbing twigs
together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks
together for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the
evil pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the
angel sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light
a fire with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South
America. I can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to
the great Incan civilization I learned about at college. Since
European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the
Incans will still be there.
... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz,
the evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were
never born..nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This
is a world without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans
weren't here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses
of coal, oil and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow
you to cheat just a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly
south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived
in an abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was
grateful for the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to
complain about the heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little shithole and I'm sweating up a storm
here. Get me an air-conditioner please."

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners
here. Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by
evil White men." "What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2002
these people still haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or
their food cool? a frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I
can't live like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars! Dammit
I'll walk. let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to
get dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that
he could see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil
White man too...and he was never born. There are some branches over
there if you want to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the
Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to
Clarence and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody
has got to stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone
stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place
here."Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro
never existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact,
it was the oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the
Spanish armed forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who
would rid them of the oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them
a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible
place. Get me out of this shithole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and
humane civilization there that I can fit into. Where the nearest
airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts
available to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic
Ocean. The great Viking sailors and European navigators never existed.
No Phoenicians, no Leif Erickson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus,
no Magellan, no Hudson and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build
your own ship, there would be no compass for you to navigate with and
no sextant either. I'm afraid you're stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll
fly to Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked
African tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by
other Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?"
George asked Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in
Africa long before the whites arrived." Clarence said. "In fact, most
of the slaves who were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave
traders by African tribal leaders."

"That's so sad.' George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King.
Since his White assassin never existed, this great man should still be
alive. He's probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an
advanced civilization. He will free these slaves from their African
masters. Take me to him Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The
naked women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men
were out on a hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to
the dingy little hut of the tribal witchdoctor and spiritual leader.
There he saw a wild-looking man with a necklace of teeth around his
neck and a huge ring pierced through his nose. "What the hell is that?
George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never
became Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities
or seminaries built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create
such opportunities. But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He
specializes in casting evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his
henchmen to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George
and tied him to a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George
hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you George. The good
doctor King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out
while you are still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to
his tribe," laughed Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet
your hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see
that now. Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established
great civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's
heart, George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the
banks of the river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it
Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and
primitive? I learned during Black History Month about many talented
black inventors and scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington
Carver, Benjamin Banneker, Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson,
the preeminent brain surgeon in all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarence replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa,
exist exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them.
Civilization as you had known it had only been introduced to these
people just a few centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no
universities, no hospitals, no means of transportation other than
animals, no science, no medicine, no machines. In fact, the wheel
hasn't even been discovered in Sub-Saharan
Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and
entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize
their full human potential because Europeans weren't around to
introduce higher civilization and learning to them. There are no
George Washington Carvers in this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons,
no Booker T. Washingtons, no Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans,
no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill Cosbys, no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great
pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders
of the world .....built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the
nearest toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets
or urinals in this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans.
The people in this non-White world still relieve themselves in open
fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some
toilet paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a
rag then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

"I don't understand. According to my recollections from Geography
class, the great pyramids should be near this very spot. We ought to
be able to see them from miles away," said George.

"Well, George, I'm sure your professors at the college never told you
this, but the ancient Egyptians were not black or brown. They were
Caucasians. The anthropologists who examined the Egyptian mummies
confirmed this fact. There are no pyramids and no Sphinx either. And
the Carthaginians were White too."

George became depressed, but he was determined to prove his beliefs.
"What's in Europe?" he asked.

"Europe became populated by Huns and other Asiatic tribes. They've
settled down a bit but life is much the same as it is in North
America. A nomadic existence based on hunting and food gathering. No
great cities, no science, no buildings, no culture, no fine art - just
a hard daily struggle against life and the elements of nature. In a
Europe without evil Whites, the Roman Empire never existed nor did the
Greeks. There was no Renaissance either."

"Take me to Asia then. Surely the great civilizations of Persia,
India, China, and Japan will suit me" George said. "Clarence, to the
Taj Mahal please." "The Taj Mahal?" replied the angel. "Don't you know
that the ancient Persian and Indian civilizations were established by
ancient Indo-European tribes who crossed the Himalayas? They are the
ones who civilized India and built the Taj Mahal. Those are the great
civilizations
that Marco Polo, Columbus, and others were searching for.Did you know
that Iran is Persian for "land of the Aryan?"

George said: "Don't tell me that the Indians were White men! That
can't be. In the world I came from, I knew many Indians and they were
not White!"

Clarence explained: "As the centuries passed, the Indo-Europeans who
created Indian civilization intermarried with the native majorities
who populated the Indian subcontinent. Gradually there were less and
less evil White people until they faded out completely, along with the
advanced civilization they had built. You will notice that there are
still a few white-skinned and fair-haired Indians and Pakistanis
around today -- in the world you came from that is.

George became worried. He knew he could never fit into the harsh
primitive world he had been thrust into. Suddenly he thought of Japan.
"Japan! I'll show you now Clarence. Take me to Japan. If the Japanese
can make TVs and cameras then I'm sure I'll find a decent civilization
that I can live in."

Clarence transported George to Japan. George observed that Japanese
society was the most orderly, advanced and civil that he had seen, but
it seemed as if almost everyone was either a rice farmer, a fisherman,
or a soldier. There were no cars, no skyscrapers, no lights, no
stereos, no sciences, no technologies, no universities. It was a
stagnant agricultural society that seemed to have reached its high
water mark and was incapable of moving forward. George knew he could
not live here either.

Clarence explained to George: "Even the industrious Japanese and
Chinese peoples had to rely on the evil Europeans to build the modern
Asia that you had in mind. In this world, Japan exists exactly as it
did before Commodore Perry's American naval ships arrived in Japan in
the 1850s. There's no industry, no technology, no Fuji film, no Sony,
no Hitachi, no Panasonic, no Toyota, no Sushi bars, no baseball...none
of the trappings or comforts of modern life. These things don't exist
in Japan or anywhere else because
Europeans weren't there to create them and share them with the rest of
the world. Would you care for a bowl of rice George?"

George began to feel sick in both his body and his mind. Not only was
he depressed, but exposure to the harsh elements of nature had left
him physically ill. "Clarence, I seem to have contracted some type of
sickness. I must have some anti-biotics."

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

"Oh Shut up already! Then just take me back to the world as it was!"

"Sorry George. I'm not authorized to do that. Only my boss can make
that call." Clarence said to him: "You see George. Your father was
right. You really had a wonderful race. Don't you see what a foolish
mistake it is to be ashamed and guilty about your own people, and to
let them die out? This is what the world would be like without the
creative spark of Edison and Ford and Pasteur and Marconi. No great
scientists, or mathematicians, or inventors or fine artists. No
Archimedes, no Aristotle, no Socrates, no
Alexander, no Renaissance, no Newton, no Kepler, no Goddard, no
Mendel, no Tesla, no Faraday, no Guttenberg, no Shakespeare, no
Dickens, no Twain, no Mozart, no Beethoven, no Da Vinci, no
Michelangelo, no Galileo, no Copernicus. No Venice, no Paris, no
Lisbon, no Madrid, no Zurich, no Berlin, no St. Petersburg, no
Budapest, no Rome, no Milan, no Vienna, no London, no New York, no
Rio, no Sydney. No orchestras, no museums, no universities, no
hospitals, no libraries, no theaters, no radio, no books, no
television, no electricity, no refrigeration, no heating, no plumbing,
no houses, no steel, no stadiums, no vaccines, no cars, no planes, no
trains, no ships, no
dentists, no surgeons, no computers, no telephones, and most important
- there's no creative genius to be found that could create and sustain
such a high level of civilization. There's nothing for the people of
this world to build upon. It's just a daily struggle for subsistence.
A brutal planet where the few people who aren't mired in eternal
ignorance and darkness have reached their peak of civilization and are
advancing no further."

Clarence went on to lecture the broken and depressed young man for
seven days straight. He covered everything. History, science,
economics, philosophy, art, literature, fine music, architecture,
medicine, politics, agriculture, religion, and all the creations and
contributions that the European peoples had made in every conceivable
field of human endeavor. George listened closely to every word. He
felt like a man who had been
reborn.

After his lecture, Clarence the Angel floated away towards heaven. "I
hope you have found all this to be educational, and I hope you have
learned an important lesson. Enjoy your world George!" mocked the
departing angel.

George began to sob like a baby. It was the year 2002 and he was alone
and hungry in a backwards world where Europeans had never existed. He
cried out to the stars: "Please God. I see what a fool I've been. I
understand now what my father was trying to tell me. I want to go back
to the world that I came from. A world where Europeans not only
existed, but blessed the rest of humanity world with their unique
creative ability. I want to live in a civilized world. Please
God!...take me back!...take me back!...Oh God....please."

Suddenly George was transported back to his college dormitory. Drunk
with joy, George jumped into the showers before he could even take his
clothes off!.

"Warm water! and soap! Life is beautiful!" he screamed.

George's floor mates looked at him as if he was crazy. "George! Have
you gone crazy?" asked a bewildered schoolmate.

"No my friend. I haven't taken leave of my senses. I've come to them!"
George replied. George then began to sing classic European folk songs
in the shower. Miraculously, he was able to sing in many different
languages. He sang O Sole Mio in Italian, Amazing Grace in English,
Gloire Immortelle in French, Das Ist Der Tag in German, and also
Belgian, Spanish and French ballads and waltzes. Tears of sheer joy
began to stream down his cheeks. The degenerate music of Hip-Hop and
Rap lost all of its appeal to young George.

After his shower, George drove to a nearby restaurant and ordered two
whole entrees. One was Lasagna and the other was a delicious Veal
Marsala. With his Italian food he had a Greek salad with Spanish
olives and Russian dressing, drank a whole bottle of French wine,
followed by a German pastry for dessert. He finished his meal off with
a hot cup of English tea and a Cuban cigar.

George said out loud: "Oh those European peoples and their delicious
cuisine. Clarence was right after all. What a wonderful race!"

George was happy, but at the same time he realized there was much work
to be done. He thought of all those poor whites in Rhodesia and South
Africa who were being murdered and raped ever since they gave up
control of those once-European nations. He thought of the many
thousands of qualified Whites who were passed up for good jobs and
college entrance because of racial quotas that discriminate against
Europeans. He thought about the declining birthrates among all the
European nations of the world. He remembered that
Europeans everywhere were dwindling in numbers every year even as
their own nations were being flooded with third world immigration. He
recalled the O.J. Simpson verdict and how millions of blacks in
America cheered when that brutal double murderer was set free by a
black jury after he stabbed two Whites to death. He remembered the Los
Angeles riots of 1992, where dozens of Whites were dragged out of
their vehicles and killed like dogs in the streets by packs of
White-hating monsters who were never even punished! He remembered the
time when Jesse Jackson led a cheer at Stanford University: "Hey Hey
Ho Ho, Western Civ. has got to go!" His European blood began to
boil in righteous indignation when he recalled how Jesse Jackson once
said he had spit in White people's food when he was a young restaurant
worker. George now understood that that his people were on a collision
course with worldwide disaster and genocide. George realized that this
great people must not perish from the face of the earth.

George could not wait to see his father. He longed to embrace him and
apologize for all of the foolish and disrespectful things he had said
to him. But first, George had a score to settle with a certain college
professor. He walked into Dr. Silverstein's auditorium and quietly
took a seat in the back row. The nasal voiced Silverstein was
lecturing on and on
about racial and gender inequalities in European-centered
civilizations. It was vintage Silverstein. George's impressionable
White schoolmates, with their baggy pants, hip-hop clothes and
backwards baseball caps, were swallowing Silverstein's poison pills
hook, line and sinker. After letting Silverstein spew his cultural
poison for about 15 minutes or so, George raised his hand so that he
could give the professor a piece of his newly educated mind.

"George? Is that you? I remember you from last semester. I wasn't
aware that you were here today. I failed to recognize you in that
shirt and tie, and without your earrings. You must have enjoyed my
course so much that you signed up again eh? Class, I'd like for you to
meet George. He was one of my brightest students last semester. He
truly has a thorough grasp of the ideas presented in this course.
George, would you be so kind as to tell my class about that brilliant
term paper you wrote about European racism,
imperialism, and the need for monetary reparations?"

That's when young George let loose on the unsuspecting Professor.

"ENOUGH! You scheming devil! You mendacious fabricator of falsehoods!
You pusillanimous purveyor of pinko propaganda! How dare you try to
corrupt and manipulate our young minds when your filthy lies. We
Europeans have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to apologize for, and
everything to be proud of. And most of all, we don't owe anybody
jack-shit - not one thin dime! To the contrary, it is the rest of
humanity that owes us a debt which can never be repaid! We are the
rightful heirs and protectors of a rich cultural heritage. You vile
manipulator! We are the sons of the Romans, the sons of
the Greeks, the Celtics, the Vikings, the Normans, the Saxons. Why do
you inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just
contribute to civilization...WE ARE CIVILIZATION! And I declare that I
will no longer tolerate you shithead "intellectuals" trying to tear
our people down. Never again will we walk on eggshells when we speak,
always fearing that we might be called "racist." I no longer care what
people think. All that matters is the truth which you have sought to
pervert!"

"What are you up to anyway? Why do you to corrupt my young peers by
shoving false heroes down their throats. Enough of your Marxist games
of divide and conquer, you commie pinko subversive! I don't want to
learn anymore about Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or
Black History Month. They would not have amounted to anything without
the institutions of high civilization created by the European peoples.
I'm going to set this class straight about who the truly great men of
history are - the European
statesmen, scientists, explorers, monarchs, navigators, conquerors,
inventors, artists, writers, philosophers - the innovative giants of
history that you and your ilk have erased from our collective
memories. You speak of a world liberated from European influence?
Permit me tell your students about such a world, Silverstein, because
I can speak from personal experience, you wretched little conspiring
monster!"

Silverstein turned white as a ghost. He was shell-shocked and rendered
speechless for the first time in his career! Never in all of his years
at the University had a student dared to so boldly challenge his
falsehoods. Speaking from the heart as well as the mind, and with an
eloquence he never thought he could muster, George broke out into a
60-minute monologue on history, science, philosophy, culture, and all
the other attributes that
constitute high civilization. The young students were captivated by
George's brilliant oratory. Many were moved to tears. By the end of
his tirade, George's reawakened classmates were thundering their
approval of his speech. The class gave George a standing ovation and
they thanked him for helping them rediscover and reclaim their own
sense of pride and lost identity. The unstoppable power of truth had
melted away years of Marxist guilt tripping, self hate, wimpishness
and cultural brainwashing in just one unforgettable hour. The inspired
students proceeded to storm out of Silverstein's class,
throwing their hip-hop baseball caps and nose earrings at him as they
stampeded out and vowed never to return. They lifted George up upon
their shoulders and carried him out of the auditorium like a
conquering hero. With a glint in his eye, George glanced up towards
the sky, winked and said "Thank you, Clarence."

Dr. Silverstein was left humiliated and visibly shaken. He knew that
these reawakened European kids could never again be brainwashed with
"political correctness" and White guilt. Silverstein's greatest fear
was that more of these proud European youths would one day reawaken
and take their country and civilization back from the Silversteins of
the world.

Silverstein was worried, but he remained confident that most young men
and women would never learn the truth about their glorious past and
unique creative abilities. After all, the mass media, Hollywood, the
music industry, the colleges, and the public schools are all
controlled by "liberals" like Dr. Silverstein. With the power of
political correctness in their hands, they can continue to tear down
our European ancestors, destroy our
institutions and traditions, instigate blacks and other races against
the whites, flood America with third-world immigration, and push
"hip-hop" music, homosexuality, and other garbage onto a weak,
confused and morally degenerate youth. After reflecting upon these
facts, Silverstein smiled a devilish grin and muttered to himself: "A
few of these European sheep may wake up to what's being done to them,
but the majority of these idiots never will." And he smiled
again....and laughed with diabolical Marxist glee. Then
he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's too late."

Or will they?

Topaz

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The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.

Neolibertarian

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In article <oer5b65iht14mi519...@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> people in India.
>
> All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
> intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
> important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
> the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
> are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.

I am more than the sum of my genes (race) and ethnicity (environment).

I am a free man. Yes, I am limited by my genes, and I take council from
my ethnicity, but what I do with those limitations and what I do with
that council is entirely my responsibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVXKOb5EE7Y

Topaz

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:15:30 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>I am more than the sum of my genes (race) and ethnicity (environment).
>
>I am a free man. Yes, I am limited by my genes, and I take council from
>my ethnicity, but what I do with those limitations and what I do with
>that council is entirely my responsibility.

We should have a nation for White people.

by Frank Roman
and Debbie O'Connor

THE TRAGEDY unfolding before us is the planned disappearance of the
White race through the process of racial blending and replacement.
The corporate media and the bought politicians define any resistance
to this tragedy as "evil racism." According to them, we are not
allowed to resist the continuing obliteration of our race, but are
ordered to appreciate it.

Sometimes this situation can result in discouragement. But then, out
of nowhere, a sign appears that we are actually making a difference
for our people. The most recent sign of progress comes in the form
of a lady from middle Tennessee who contacted your host following
the April 15th Frankly Speaking broadcast entitled "Girls and Women:
Stay True to Yourselves." As a wonderful postscript to that
well-received program I am presenting to you the thoughts and
insights of another racially aware woman, Debbie O'Connor:

"Hello ladies. My name is Debbie O'Connor. I am a mother and a
grandmother. I reside in middle Tennessee and I have a message for
you, woman to woman. I want to start by saying I am very grateful
for National Vanguard's work; and for Frank Roman allowing me to
speak with you about a subject that is of great concern to me and
ought to be important to you.
"First, I was raised in the South and taught to respect everyone who
in turn respected me regardless of their race. I was taught that
needless conflict should not be a way of life for me or anyone else
with good sense. Secondly, I was taught not to cross any racial
lines by dating or becoming involved with men who were not White. As
I matured, I came to cherish the normal gravitation toward my own
race that Nature had intended. Those were different times we lived
in and it went without saying that racial mixing for White women was
out of the question-and I passed that way of life on to my children.

"Compared to what your television, some of your peers, and the
schools tell you this sounds 'outdated' and 'stuffy.' But when you
consider what racial mixing does in the long term it begins to make
more sense. Barely a day goes by I do not see young White girls and
grown White women with mixed race children; children that have no
true racial identity. This, ladies, is a deviation from Nature-
because it kills your valuable European bloodline.
"Deep down inside your maternal soul, you know this is wrong.
"Do you really want your daughter or granddaughter to come home from
the hospital with a mixed race baby that will never be accepted by
its peers of either race? After all, a Black couple can no more give
birth to a White baby than a White couple can give birth to a Black
baby. The reason is because each race was created within a divine
plan; to fulfill its own destiny as only that race is capable of
doing. This is a law of Nature.
"Too many among the present generation of young Whites are
committing racial suicide. I am deeply saddened to see White women
and mothers denying their own maternal instincts for racial survival.
"Consider this: Deep within your womanly intuition, do you honestly
believe that the precious White child with which you have been
blessed is literally no different than a non-White child? Do you
really believe it is a good thing to allow a White child's physical
and spiritual being to eventually merge into an
African-Mexican-Third-World mass?

"Like my friend, National Vanguard's Frank Roman, once said: 'What
could possibly be uplifting about biracial children, loss of
identity, and the corruption of two distinct gene pools?'
"Ladies, even as we speak, census data show that 45 percent of
children under age five are now from a racial 'minority.' And
non-Whites are taught by their parents to honor their race-while
White children are not. Unless something is done now the future of
White children is in terrible danger.

"Are you-by your words, your acts, or your silence-teaching
your child that White identity and White heritage are trivial? To
all the women who can hear me, remember: There is a heavy
responsibility that goes along with being a White mother. It has
nothing to do with 'hate.' It has everything to do with nurturing
your child, helping your child reach his or her true destiny, and
continuing our very identity into a future that will be so much
better with you and your child in it."
The world is indeed a much better place with people like Debbie
O'Connor in it. And our race is blessed as she continues to uphold
the very essence of morality and honor inherent in our people.

If more White parents would direct their children to the upward
path, teaching them that racial self-determination is the highest
value of all, the very pinnacle of morality-then, and only then,
will our people have a future: not only surviving, but flourishing
as the rightful heirs of their own destiny.

Neolibertarian

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Oct 11, 2010, 9:04:05 PM10/11/10
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In article <vnk6b65jg1laj0aju...@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:15:30 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >I am more than the sum of my genes (race) and ethnicity (environment).
> >
> >I am a free man. Yes, I am limited by my genes, and I take council from
> >my ethnicity, but what I do with those limitations and what I do with
> >that council is entirely my responsibility.
>
> We should have a nation for White people.

Pst. There's no such thing as "white people."

As far as skin color's concerned, all three races range from pink to
brown. (Even albinos are pink.)

That includes whatever race you might think you belong to; Negroid.
Mongoloid. Caucasoid.

Look it up.

You really can't tell by phenotypes, anyway (for those playing along at
home, skin color is a phenotype). The only way to determine an
individual's race is through genotypes. And the only way to determine
that is with the genetic markers.

You, my fine feathered friend, couldn't do so without the expert help of
a geneticist.

Their services, unlike your Usenet account, don't come cheap.

You see, there's no accounting for what great-great grandma did behind
the woodpile back in 1853.

You don't have any excuses for your abysmal ignorance. You can't, for
instance, blame it on your race. That doesn't hold water in the face of
the overwhelming evidence.

You're stupid because you're a lazy, undisciplined, anti-intellectual
savage. It doesn't have anything to do with your race or ethnicity.

We are who we choose to be, Spiderman.

Topaz

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:04:05 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>Pst. There's no such thing as "white people."


The main goal of America is to destroy White civilization by
mixing Whites with other races. Because of this it will get harder
and harder to find White neighborhoods (good neighborhoods) to live
in. We should preserve our race by having a homeland of our own.

Our opponents say it is impossible to have White homeland because
they say we can not determine who is White and who is not. Even though
they can determine this easily enough when they want affirmative
action, they say that we can not.

It is the same as if they said we can not determine red cars from
cars that are not red. They would say that it is impossible to call a
car red until we have an exact definition of what is red. It would be
reasonable if they pointed out that some cars are borderline and it
would be hard to say if they are red or not. But that is not what they
are saying. They are saying that we can not in any case tell if a car
is red or not.

If a car looks red enough to me then I will call it red. And if
people look White enough to me then I will call them White.

Dave Heil

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On 10/12/2010 22 33, Topaz wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:04:05 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Pst. There's no such thing as "white people."
>
>
> The main goal of America is to destroy White civilization by
> mixing Whites with other races.

If that's one of your beliefs, you don't know Jack about America.

Neolibertarian

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Oct 12, 2010, 10:50:57 PM10/12/10
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In article <2fo9b657lghtcukvj...@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:04:05 -0500, Neolibertarian
> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Pst. There's no such thing as "white people."
>
>
> The main goal of America is to destroy White civilization by
> mixing Whites with other races. Because of this it will get harder
> and harder to find White neighborhoods (good neighborhoods) to live
> in. We should preserve our race by having a homeland of our own.
>
> Our opponents say it is impossible to have White homeland because
> they say we can not determine who is White and who is not.

It's not what "they say;" it's what they can prove.

I can prove to you you don't have enough knowledge to "keep the race
pure."

Not that that's good genetics, anyway. "Pure" races are how you get
cycle cell anemia and diabetes, among many other nasty traits and
failings.

Race in humans is equivalent to breeds in dogs.

Look how "pure bred" dogs fare: They're nervous, delicate creatures who
live far shorter lives than their mongrel counterparts. They suffer
unspeakable maladies and genetically reinforced diseases. Not to mention
canine neuroses.

Besides, you're just attempting here to prove that you're a prisoner of
your genes and ethnicity (good neighborhoods, indeed). That was obvious
from the beginning.

No wonder you don't want to believe that all of your emotional and
intellectual shortcomings /actually are your fault/.

Sorry to break it you you, kid, but it is what it is. Your undisciplined
mind can't be blamed on Mommy and Daddy. Or what Great-Great Grandma did
behind the woodpile in 1853.

Topaz

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Oct 13, 2010, 7:59:47 PM10/13/10
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:42:02 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

You are the one who doesn't know Jack about America.

"Anything good in Western civilization is said to have been stolen
from Black Africa including the English language. Professors claim
that Egyptians were blacks and that Aristotle stole his ideas from the
Egyptian library in Alexandria. The "distinguished scholars" who make
these claims are not sufficiently learned to know that the library was
built after the death of Aristotle. One know-nothing, Martin Bernal,
at Cornell (of course) ignores the Mycenaen, Achaean, Dorian and
Ionian wells of ancient Greek culture in
order to attribute the origins of Greek culture to Africa.

The white kids who attend Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell,
Stanford, Michigan, University of California, Duke, wherever, are
enculturated into a pathology of guilt over evils allegedly
perpetrated by their forebears. They are brainwashed into accepting
unequal rights and limitations on their speech as atonements for the
sins of their fathers. Those who resist are sentenced to "sensitivity
training," accused of various harassment crimes, and expelled.

"Academics have buried Western civilization under a mountain of
lies. The great books are not burned, but they are discredited with
the charge that the great thinkers in the past were apologists for a
"white hegemonic order."

The erasing of our culture progresses rapidly. Several years ago
it came to light that students in an Illinois public school were being
taught that the ancient Egyptians were blacks who flew among the
pyramids until whites arrived and killed the blacks who could fly. The
reasons given for teaching this nonsense was to improve the
self-esteem of black children and to explain to them why they don't
live in the big houses."

Paul Craig Roberts is a columnist for The Washington Times and is
nationally syndicated.

Topaz

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:50:57 -0500, Neolibertarian
<cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:


>It's not what "they say;" it's what they can prove.
>
>I can prove to you you don't have enough knowledge to "keep the race
>pure."

Some anti-Whites say there is no White race because there could be
some small amount of non-White in people who appear to be White.
There is not much point in answering the twisted reasoning of those
who deep down hate the White race. But just in case anyone actually
believes their arguments here is an analogy, comparing race to air:
Near the surface of the earth there is air but in outer space there is
no air. Air gets thinner and thinner as you go higher up. They are
saying that if one cannot pinpoint the exact altitude where air ends
and no air begins then air must not exist. If you can't define exactly
how many molecules of air must be in a cubic foot of space to call it
air, then they say there is no air you can't have balloons or
windmills or anything based on air.


>
>Not that that's good genetics, anyway. "Pure" races are how you get
>cycle cell anemia and diabetes, among many other nasty traits and
>failings.

BS

>
>Race in humans is equivalent to breeds in dogs.
>
>Look how "pure bred" dogs fare: They're nervous, delicate creatures who
>live far shorter lives than their mongrel counterparts. They suffer
>unspeakable maladies and genetically reinforced diseases. Not to mention
>canine neuroses.

BS

>
>Besides, you're just attempting here to prove that you're a prisoner of
>your genes and ethnicity (good neighborhoods, indeed). That was obvious
>from the beginning.

Good neighborhood = White neighborhood

>
>No wonder you don't want to believe that all of your emotional and
>intellectual shortcomings /actually are your fault/.
>
>Sorry to break it you you, kid, but it is what it is. Your undisciplined
>mind can't be blamed on Mommy and Daddy. Or what Great-Great Grandma did
>behind the woodpile in 1853.

The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.

Dave Heil

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On 10/13/2010 23 59, Topaz wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:42:02 +0000, Dave Heil<k8...@frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/2010 22 33, Topaz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:04:05 -0500, Neolibertarian
>>> <cogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pst. There's no such thing as "white people."
>>>
>>>
>>> The main goal of America is to destroy White civilization by
>>> mixing Whites with other races.
>>
>> If that's one of your beliefs, you don't know Jack about America.
>
> You are the one who doesn't know Jack about America.

The evidence says otherwise, Toupee. Your support of those reviled
racists and religious bigots you admire says that you are at odds with
all that America stands for.

One of us freely identifies himself by name and one of us must hide from
the light. Folks can figure out which of us is which.

Red Cloud

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On API test on various racials and ethnic group in high school, I've
seen
dozen of data shown Asians on the top score earner. Next down is
White. Asian is not mean all Asian ethnic group. Only Japanese,
Korean and Chinese. The bottom score was shared by Black and
Mexican.

Michael Ejercito

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On Oct 10, 1:33 am, Abel <abelmalc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Columbus Day is one of those American folklore traditions that has
> evolved since the Europeans started to colonize this continent more
> than 5 centuries ago, and it encompasses many myths, jokes, riddles,
> legends and other forms of storytelling.  Although, today's history
> should recognize the fact that it was the Vikings who first discovered
> America, more than 4 centuries before even Christopher Columbus did.
> The pervasive story is that Columbus discovered America, because it is
> far easier to elevate a man to heroic status than it is to contemplate
> the reality of a complex series of waves of immigrants from multiple
> conditions and walks of life.
The difference is that the Vikings did not stay.

>
> Today, we are supposed to celebrate Columbus Day.  But let us not
> forget that after the Europeans settled the New World, several million
> Native Americans were just plain exterminated in the process.  This
> ranks right up there with the genocide of the Jews and the genocide of
> the Armenians.

We celebrate Columbus Day because HIS contact established a
permanent connection between the continents.


Michael

Topaz

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On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:15:21 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
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>


>The evidence says otherwise, Toupee. Your support of those reviled
>racists and religious bigots you admire says that you are at odds with
>all that America stands for.

What evidence, Black history month. You have your head up your aft
end, figuratively speaking.

All liberals have is meaningless buzz words. They call people racists.
Whatever. They don't have anything meaningful to say.

by Thomas Jackson
There is surely no nation in the world that holds "racism" in greater
horror than does the United States. Compared to other kinds of
offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press
and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and
arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as
part of the inevitable texture of American life. "Racism" is never
shrugged off. For example, when a White Georgetown Law School student
reported earlier this year that black students are not as qualified as
White students, it set off a booming, national controversy about
"racism." If the student had merely murdered someone he would have
attracted far less attention and criticism.

Racism is, indeed, the national obsession. Universities are on full
alert for it, newspapers and politicians denounce it, churches preach
against it, America is said to be racked with it, but just what is
racism?

Dictionaries are not much help in understanding what is meant by the
word. They usually define it as the belief that one's own ethnic stock
is superior to others, or as the belief that culture and behavior are
rooted in race. When Americans speak of racism they mean a great deal
more than this. Nevertheless, the dictionary definition of racism is a
clue to understanding what Americans do mean. A peculiarly American
meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are
equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been
declared to be equally talented and hard- working, and anyone who
questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.

The dogma has logical consequences that are profoundly important. If
blacks, for example, are equal to Whites in every way, what accounts
for their poverty, criminality, and dissipation? Since any theory of
racial differences has been outlawed, the only possible explanation
for black failure is White racism. And since blacks are markedly poor,
crime-prone, and dissipated, America must be racked with pervasive
racism. Nothing else could be keeping them in such an abject state.

All public discourse on race today is locked into this rigid logic.
Any explanation for black failure that does not depend on White
wickedness threatens to veer off into the forbidden territory of
racial differences. Thus, even if today's Whites can find in their
hearts no desire to oppress blacks, yesterday's Whites must have
oppressed them. If Whites do not consciously oppress blacks, they must
oppress them Unconsciously. If no obviously racist individuals can be
identified, then societal institutions must be racist. Or, since
blacks are failing so terribly in America, there simply must be
millions of White people we do not know about, who are working day and
night to keep blacks in misery. The dogma of racial equality leaves no
room for an explanation of black failure that is not, in some fashion,
an indictment of White people.

The logical consequences of this are clear. Since we are required to
believe that the only explanation for non-White failure is White
racism, every time a non-White is poor, commits a crime, goes on
welfare, or takes drugs, White society stands accused of yet another
act of racism. All failure or misbehavior by non-Whites is standing
proof that White society is riddled with hatred and bigotry. For
precisely so long as non-Whites fail to succeed in life at exactly the
same level as Whites, Whites will be, by definition, thwarting and
oppressing them. This obligatory pattern of thinking leads to strange
conclusions. First of all, racism is a sin that is thought to be
committed almost exclusively by White people. Indeed, a black
congressman from Chicago, Gus Savage, and Coleman Young, the black
mayor of Detroit, have argued that only White people can be racist.
Likewise, in 1987, the affirmative action officer of the State
Insurance Fund of New York issued a company pamphlet in which she
explained that all Whites are racist and that only Whites can be
racist. How else could the plight of blacks be explained without
flirting with the possibility of racial inequality?

Although some blacks and liberal Whites concede that non-Whites can,
perhaps, be racist, they invariably add that non-Whites have been
forced into it as self-defense because of centuries of White
oppression. What appears to be non-White racism is so understandable
and forgivable that it hardly deserves the name. Thus, whether or not
an act is called racism depends on the race of the racist. What would
surely be called racism when done by Whites is thought to be normal
when done by anyone else. The reverse is also true.

Examples of this sort of double standard are so common, it is almost
tedious to list them: When a White man kills a black man and uses the
word "nigger" while doing so, there is an enormous media uproar and
the nation beats its collective breast; when members of the black
Yahweh cult carry out ritual murders of random Whites, the media are
silent (see AR of March, 1991). College campuses forbid pejorative
statements about non-Whites as "racist," but ignore scurrilous attacks
on Whites.

At election time, if 60 percent of the White voters vote for a White
candidate, and 95 percent of the black voters vote for the black
opponent, it is Whites who are accused of racial bias. There are 107
"historically black" colleges, whose fundamental blackness must be
preserved in the name of diversity, but all historically White
colleges must be forcibly integrated in the name of... the same thing.
To resist would be racist.

"Black pride" is said to be a wonderful and worthy thing, but anything
that could be construed as an expression of White pride is a form of
hatred. It is perfectly natural for third-world immigrants to expect
school instruction and driver's tests in their own languages, whereas
for native Americans to ask them to learn English is racist.

Blatant anti-White prejudice, in the form of affirmative action, is
now the law of the land. Anything remotely like affirmative action, if
practiced in favor of Whites, would be attacked as despicable
favoritism.

All across the country, black, Hispanic, and Asian clubs and caucuses
are thought to be fine expressions of ethnic solidarity, but any club
or association expressly for Whites is by definition racist. The
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)
campaigns openly for black advantage but is a respected "civil rights"
organization. The National Association for the Advancement of White
People (NAAWP) campaigns merely for equal treatment of all races, but
is said to be viciously racist.

At a few college campuses, students opposed to affirmative action have
set up student unions for Whites, analogous to those for blacks,
Hispanics, etc, and have been roundly condemned as racists. Recently,
when the White students at Lowell High School in San Francisco found
themselves to be a minority, they asked for a racially exclusive club
like the ones that non-Whites have. They were turned down in horror.
Indeed, in America today, any club not specifically formed to be a
White enclave but whose members simply happen all to be White is
branded as racist.

Today, one of the favorite slogans that define the asymmetric quality
of American racism is "celebration of diversity." It has begun to dawn
on a few people that "diversity" is always achieved at the expense of
Whites (and sometimes men), and never the other way around. No one
proposes that Howard University be made more diverse by admitting
Whites, Hispanics, or Asians. No one ever suggests that National
Hispanic University in San Jose (CA) would benefit from the diversity
of having non-Hispanics on campus. No one suggests that the Black
Congressional Caucus or the executive ranks of the NAACP or the
Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund suffer from a lack
of diversity. Somehow, it is perfectly legitimate for them to
celebrate homogeneity. And yet any all-White group - a company, a
town, a school, a club, a neighborhood - is thought to suffer from a
crippling lack of diversity that must be remedied as quickly as
possible. Only when Whites have been reduced to a minority has
"diversity" been achieved.

Let us put it bluntly: To "celebrate" or "embrace" diversity, as we
are so often asked to do, is no different from deploring an excess of
Whites. In fact, the entire nation is thought to suffer from an excess
of Whites. Our current immigration policies are structured so that
approximately 90 percent of our annual 800,000 legal immigrants are
non-White. The several million illegal immigrants that enter the
country every year are virtually all non-White. It would be racist not
to be grateful for this laudable contribution to "diversity." It is,
of course, only White nations that are called upon to practice this
kind of "diversity." It is almost criminal to imagine a nation of any
other race countenancing blatant dispossession of this kind.

What if the United States were pouring its poorest, least educated
citizens across the border into Mexico? Could anyone be fooled into
thinking that Mexico was being "culturally enriched?" What if the
state of Chihuahua were losing its majority population to poor Whites
who demanded that schools be taught in English, who insisted on
celebrating the Fourth of July, who demanded the right to vote even if
they weren't citizens, who clamored for "affirmative action" in jobs
and schooling?

Would Mexico - or any other non-White nation - tolerate this kind of
cultural and demographic depredation? Of course not. Yet White
Americans are supposed to look upon the flood of Hispanics and Asians
entering their country as a priceless cultural gift. They are supposed
to "celebrate" their own loss of influence, their own dwindling
numbers, their own dispossession, for to do otherwise would be
hopelessly racist.

There is another curious asymmetry about American racism. When non-
Whites advance their own racial purposes, no one ever accuses them of
"hating" another group. Blacks can join "civil rights" groups and
Hispanics can be activists without fear of being branded as bigots and
hate mongers. They can agitate openly for racial preferences that can
come only at the expense of whites. They can demand preferential
treatment of all kinds without anyone ever suggesting that they are
"anti-white."

Whites, on the other hand, need only express their opposition to
affirmative action to be called haters. They need only subject racial
policies that are clearly prejudicial to themselves to be called
racists. Should they actually go so far as to say that they prefer the
company of their own kind, that they wish to be left alone to enjoy
the fruits of their European heritage, they are irredeemably wicked
and hateful.

Here, then is the final, baffling inconsistency about American race
relations. All non-whites are allowed to prefer the company of their
own kind, to think of themselves as groups with interests distinct
from those of the whole, and to work openly for group advantage. None
of this is thought to be racist. At the same time, whites must also
champion the racial interests of non-whites. They must sacrifice their
own future on the altar of "diversity" and cooperate in their own
dispossession. They are to encourage, even to subsidize, the
displacement of a European people and culture by alien peoples and
cultures. To put it in the simplest possible terms, White people are
cheerfully to slaughter their own society, to commit racial and
cultural suicide. To refuse to do so would be racism.

Of course, the entire non-white enterprise in the United States is
perfectly natural and healthy. Nothing could be more natural than to
love one's people and to hope that it should flourish. Filipinos and
El Salvadorans are doubtless astonished to discover that simply by
setting foot in the United States they are entitled to affirmative
action preferences over native-born whites, but can they be blamed for
accepting them? Is it surprising that they should want their
languages, their cultures, their brothers and sisters to take
possession and put their mark indelibly on the land? If the once-great
people of a once-great nation is bent upon self-destruction and is
prepared to hand over land and power to whomever shows up and asks for
it, why should Mexicans and Cambodians complain?

No, it is the White enterprise in the United States that is unnatural,
unhealthy, and without historical precedent. Whites have let
themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to
dispossession, much less to work for their own interests. Never in the
history of the world has a dominant people thrown open the gates to
strangers, and poured out its wealth to aliens. Never before has a
people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in
surrendering its heritage, and giving away to others its place in
history. Of all the races in America, only whites have been tricked
into thinking that a preference for one's own kind is racism. Only
whites are ever told that a love for their own people is somehow
"hatred" of others. All healthy people prefer the company of their own
kind, and it has nothing to do with hatred. All men love their
families more than their neighbors, but this does not mean that they
hate their neighbors. Whites who love their racial family need bear no
ill will towards non-whites. They only wish to be left alone to
participate in the unfolding of their racial and cultural destinies.

What whites in America are being asked to do is therefore utterly
unnatural. They are being asked to devote themselves to the interests
of other races and to ignore the interests of their own. This is like
asking a man to forsake his own children and love the children of his
neighbors, since to do otherwise would be "racist."

What then, is "racism?" It is considerably more than any dictionary is
likely to say. It is any opposition by whites to official policies of
racial preference for non-whites. It is any preference by whites for
their own people and culture. It is any resistance by whites to the
idea of becoming a minority people. It is any unwillingness to be
pushed aside. It is, in short, any of the normal aspirations of
people-hood that have defined nations since the beginning of history -
but only so long as the aspirations are those of whites.

Topaz

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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:45:11 -0700 (PDT), Red Cloud
<mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On API test on various racials and ethnic group in high school, I've
>seen
>dozen of data shown Asians on the top score earner. Next down is
>White. Asian is not mean all Asian ethnic group. Only Japanese,
>Korean and Chinese. The bottom score was shared by Black and
>Mexican.


The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
multi-culture and pluralism.

Dave Heil

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On 10/14/2010 20 31, Topaz wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:15:21 +0000, Dave Heil<k8...@frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> The evidence says otherwise, Toupee. Your support of those reviled
>> racists and religious bigots you admire says that you are at odds with
>> all that America stands for.
>
> What evidence, Black history month.

If you were attempting to ask a question, you failed.

> You have your head up your aft
> end, figuratively speaking.

You have your head up your racist ass, literally speaking.

> All liberals have is meaningless buzz words.

It's a good thing that I'm not a liberal.

> They call people racists.

I'm a conservative. I'll call you a racist because you ARE a racist.

> Whatever. They don't have anything meaningful to say.

You don't read or listen to meaningful things. It is no wonder that you
don't recognize them.

Dave Heil

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On 10/14/2010 20 32, Topaz wrote:

> The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
> small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.

You have yet to take me up on my standing offer to pit you or any member
of your family in an IQ duel with a black individual of my choosing. If
the Topaz family wins, I'll pay you $5,000.

> Whites also invented everything.

Prove it.

Topaz

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On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:19:14 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>


>You have yet to take me up on my standing offer to pit you or any member
>of your family in an IQ duel with a black individual of my choosing. If
>the Topaz family wins, I'll pay you $5,000.

You have your head up your aft end, figuratively speaking.

>


>> Whites also invented everything.
>
>Prove it.


Thank White people for:

- that computer you're typing on
- the software that drives it
- recorded music
- motion pictures
- tv
- radio
- camera
- telephone
- light bulb
- the automobile
- rocketry
- satellites
- spacecraft
- airplanes
- skyscrapers
- metallurgy (most discoveries)
- materials science (plastics, compounds, & most other synthetics)
- 95% of medical advancements
- 95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
- most scientific breakthroughs over the past 1000 years
- the bulk of mathematics, physics, chemistry, and biology
- discovery of DNA
- laser technology and it's myriad of uses
- harnessing electricity
- nuclear energy
- wireless technology
- air conditioning devices
- refrigeration
- modern agricultural techniques

Where would the world be without White people? Stuck in the stone
age, that's where.

So the next time you get in your car, pick up your cell phone, fly a
plane, etc. thank White people.

jimj

Topaz

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http://www.rense.com/general78/blk.htm
Black IQ - Nigeria: Black Man Agrees With Dr. Watson "I Agree With Dr
Watson" The Daily Trust (Abuja)
OPINION
By Idang Alibi
10-30-7


A few days ago, the Nobel Laureate, Dr James Watson, made a remark
that is now generating worldwide uproar, especially among the blacks.
He said what to me looks like a self-evident truth. He told The Sunday
Times of London in an interview that in his humble opinion, black
people are less intelligent than the White people.
Since then, some of us cannot hear anything else but the outrage of
black people who feel demeaned by what Watson has said. So many people
have called the man names. To be expected, some have said he is a
racist. Some even wonder how a "foolish" man like Watson could have
won the Nobel Prize. Even white people who, deep in their heart, agree
with Watson want to be politically, correct so they condemn the man.
Why are we blacks becoming so reactive, so sensitive to any remarks,
no matter how well-meaning, about our failure as a race? Why are we
becoming like the Jews who see every accusation as a manifestation of
anti-Semitism? I do not know what constitutes intelligence. I leave
that to our so-called scholars. But I do know that in terms of
organising society for the benefit of the people living in it, we
blacks have not shown any intelligence in that direction at all. I am
so ashamed of this and sometimes feel that I ought to have belonged to
another race.
Nigeria my dear country is a prime example of the inferiority of the
black race when compared to other races. Let somebody please tell me
whether it is a manifestation of intelligence if a people cannot
organise a free, fair and credible elect ion to choose who will lead
them. Is it intelligence that we! cannot provide simple pipe-borne
water for the people? Our public school system has virtually
collapsed. Is that a sign of intelligence? Our roads are impassable.
In spite of the numerous sources that nature has made available to us
to tap for energy to run our industries and homes, we have no steady
supply of electricity. Yet electricity is the bedrock of
industrialisation. When you agree with the school of Watson, some say
you are incorrect because all these failures are a result of poor
leadership. Why must it be us blacks who must always suffer poor
leadership? Is that not a manifestation of unintelligence?
In the name of international trade, bilateral co-operation,
globalisation and other subterfuges, the norm in the world today is
for smart people to appropriate the wealth of other people for
themselves and their countries. But more among the blacks than any
other race, the practice is to steal from their own country and salt
away to other people's country. Is it intelligence that our leaders
steal billions of naira and hide in other people's country?
Anywhere in the world today where you have a concentration of black
people among other races, the poorest, the least educated, the least
achieving, and the most violent group among those races will be the
blacks. When indices of underdevelopment are given, black people and
countries are sure to occupy the bottom of the ladder. If we are
intelligent, why do we not carry first when statistics of development
are given?
Look at the African continent. South Africa is the most developed
country because of the presence of whites there. This may be an
uncomfortable truth for many of us but it exists nevertheless. If the
whites had been driven away after independence, we would have seen a
steady decline of that country.
In terms of natural endowment, Africa ought to be the richest of the
continents but see the mess we have made of the potential for
greatness which God in his infinite wisdom has bestowed upon us. We
have proved totally incapable of harnessing the abundant natural
resources to become great. Today, there is a renewed scramble for the
wealth of Africa. China, our new "friend", does not bother about the
genocide against fellow blacks in the Sudan by the Arabs who control
the affairs of that country. They say they do not want to interfere in
the internal affairs of any country. All they want is the oil in Sudan
to run their industries. Yet, we blacks have not seen the Chinese
action as an affront to our sensitivities. Every race takes us for
granted because we are so weak and so foolish, if you permit me to say
it.
I am really pained by our gross underachievement as a race. Instead of
regarding bitter truths expressed by the likes of Watson as a wake-up
call for us to engage in sober reflection, we take to the expression
of woolly sentiment. For me, this type of reaction is a further
evidence of our unintelligence. A man of intelligence recognizes
genuine criticism against him and takes steps to improve himself in
order to prove his critics wrong. But for us blacks, our reaction is
to abuse the man who expresses worries about our backwardness.
Other races are deeply worried about us because we are a problem to
the world. We suffer from the five Ds: disorderliness, debts,
diseases, deaths and disasters. Our disorderliness affects others or
else they won't be too bothered about us. Many are afraid because our
diseases could infect them. Polio has been eradicated all over the
world yet it is still found in Nigeria here. When they give us money
to help us eradicate it, our thieving officials will embezzle the
money; the virus will spread and endanger the health of not only our
people but other people as well.
Out of a shared sense of humanity, some cannot bear to see how we die
in thousands almost every day from clearly preventable diseases and
causes. For years now, our people die extremely painful but perfectly
preventable deaths from buildings which collapse because they were
poorly constructed. How can you tell me we are as intelligent as
others when we set traps for ourselves in the name of houses and
others do not do so? Some people are extremely frustrated about us. If
they have a way of avoiding us, they will be too glad to do so because
we are a problem..
It should worry us that we do not invent things. We do not go to the
moon. Our societies are not well-organised. We have the shortest
lifespan of all the races. Something must be wrong with us. Why are we
not like others? Our scholars will be quick to say that these are not
the only ways of measuring intelligence. They will quote other
scholars to adumbrate their point, but the fact remains that we are
not showing intelligence. Others are showing it more than we're doing.
If they are not more intelligent than we are, let someone tell me how
to put it. God himself must be frustrated with his black children.
They must be an embarrassment to him. He has given us everything he
has given to other of his children; why are his black children not
manifesting their own gift?
A few years ago, the whites used to contemptuously call the Japanese
"little Japs". Today, the Japanese and other Asians have pulled
themselves up by the bootstrap and have arrived. No one speaks of the
Japanese or Asians with contempt anymore. When people like Watson
speak about us in unedifying terms, we should take it as a challenge
to prove them wrong by sitting down to plan how we can become
world-beaters.
If our political leaders are the reason for our backwardness, we
should resolve to get the kind of leaders who will be instrument for
our rapid progress. I may not know how intelligence is measured but my
limited knowledge of intelligence is that it can also be measured by
the kind of leaders a people decide to have. If, for instance, our
professors preside over the massive rigging of elections, it means
that we do not have very intelligent professors. Such rigged elections
will no doubt produce unintelligent leaders. Such unintelligent
leaders will do stupid things which will prove that we are not as
intelligent as other races. Do I sound confusing or intelligent?
I am ready for some of our 'patriotic' intellectuals who will write
and abuse me for the 'outrage' I have expressed here but I stick to my
guns: we lack intelligence and as stated in the Bible, anyone who
lacks intelligence should cry unto God who is the custodian of wisdom
to bestow some upon him. We should go on our knees today and ask God
why we do not appear as intelligent as our other brothers. I am
confident God will reveal to us what we must do, and urgently too, to
change our terribly unflattering circumstances.

Michael Ejercito

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On Oct 14, 4:13 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:19:14 +0000, Dave Heil <k...@frontiernet.net>

> wrote:
>
>
>
> >You have yet to take me up on my standing offer to pit you or any member
> >of your family in an IQ duel with a black individual of my choosing.  If
> >the Topaz family wins, I'll pay you $5,000.
>
> You have your head up your aft end, figuratively speaking.
You are a craven coward.

But we should not thank YOU.


Michael

Dave Heil

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On 10/14/2010 23 14, Topaz wrote:
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> http://www.rense.com/general78/blk.htm
> Black IQ - Nigeria: Black Man Agrees With Dr. Watson "I Agree With Dr
> Watson" The Daily Trust (Abuja)
> OPINION
> By Idang Alibi
> 10-30-7
>
>
> A few days ago, the Nobel Laureate, Dr James Watson, made a remark
> that is now generating worldwide uproar, especially among the blacks.
> He said what to me looks like a self-evident truth. He told The Sunday
> Times of London in an interview that in his humble opinion, black
> people are less intelligent than the White people.


I think we can find several hundred people right on this newsgroup who
will agree that your intellect is sub par.

I think you're one of those guys so far down the intellectual and
financial ladders that you feel the need to identity some group that you
think you're better than.

Why not just own up to your failures and resolve to work harder?

CUNTICA

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.........................so, Topaz , for a jailhouse goof you have a
real pretty mouth!

Buster Norris

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Topaz

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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:57:47 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
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>


>I think we can find several hundred people right on this newsgroup who
>will agree that your intellect is sub par.

You have your head up your aft end, figuratively speaking.


"Question: did Neanderthal man deserve to be eliminated by cro magnon
man? Probably not [I believe most literature attributes their
extinction at least in part to the encroachment of cro magnon into
their territories]. But we don't judge what apparently was the
natural sequence of events that lead us to...well... what we are
today. My point is that I keep hearing this argument about the native
American over and over and over ad infintum until my brain seems about
to burst. Whatever judgments we cast upon the situation today, much
of which has been a profound orchestration in the last few decades to
usher in multiculturism [by diminishing euro influence and settlement
of the world]...one simple fact screams out that we should all
consider. What else would a sane person imagine would happen when a
stone age culture comes into contact with a culture on the verge of
industrialization and exploding technology?
Let's get rid of this guilt trip baggage that we seem so obsessed with
today [what...over a hundred or more years after the fact] and realize
'IT WAS IN THE CARDS' that any stone age culture was going to vanish.
Perhaps we should consider what it might have been like if Ghingas
Kahn had showed up on American shores before Europeans. Oh, and let's
keep proper perspective on this 'ennobling' thingy, and realize how
'political it really is' when you study the true harshness of the way
of life such Native American culture engendered.
Who got a hold of our education institutions...wow have they done a
number on us. They took all the white hats away from us and handed
them our competitors."

tooly

Topaz

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Oct 16, 2010, 6:07:37 AM10/16/10
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Obviously CUNTICA should be flushed down a toilet.

But on usenet we should write of things more political and important:


Here are quotes from a speech delivered by Dr. Joseph Goebbels
at the National Socialist Party Congress, Nuernberg, 1937.

"'Spain represents the world at the cross-roads.' Thus wrote
the Bolshevic press organ, Die Rundschau, in its issue dated July 22,
1937. That one sentance precisely defines the international
significance of the Spanish problem. It states exactly what the
Spanish problem is. Here the final decision must lie either with
Bolshevism or the principle of Authority. On the one side stands
ruinous anarchy and, on the other, orderly constructive development."

"Nations which in recent years have kept their eyes closed to
the startling growth of the international Bolshevic menace will one
day experience a terrible awakening from this moral narcosis. The fact
that we, German National Socialists, as conscious and uncompromising
protaganists against the Bolshevic world-front, are still condemned to
play the part of a preacher in the wilderness, calling out to deaf
ears--this cannot prevent us from seeing things as they are and
calling them by their right names. For if the constantly increasing
extension of this Bolshevic infection in Europe should cause still
greater disaster, then future historians will be in a position to
record the fact that we, German National Socialists, were not among
those who allowed themselves to be led astray in the universal chaos
of thought and mental fog purposely created as a sort of smoke-screen
by an insidious epidemic of political propaganda. Nothing could make
us deviate in the least from the straight road we have taken.
"From the very nature of the case it is obvious that the
subversive forces of International Jewry will raise a tumult of rage
when we clearly and dispassionately lay bare the background of this
revolutionary developement which is extending through the world. For,
after all, they are the only people who are drawing profit forn the
chaotic ruin which Bolshevism is bringing upon mankind. That on this
account they will swamp us with a torrrent of abuse and lies and
calumnies is only an honour for us and a further proof that we are
right in warning Europe against this peril."

"The fight which General Franco is waging, with the support of all
the constructive elements, against the Bolshevic menace to his native
land is at the same time a fight for civilization."

"The Moscow Comintern never tires of impressing on public
opinion thoughout the world the theory that the national movement,
which on July 17, 1936, intervened in the seething developements in
Spain, was a military rising oragnised by reactionary generals and
that this rising was definately repudiated by the Spanish people. The
truth however is that this national movement was in reality an act of
self-defence on the part of the people, against the revolt which had
been planned by the Spanish Communist Party for that time and was
subsequently postponed to August 1936. This communist revolt had been
planned in Moscow several years previously, organized from Moscow and
directed from Moscow, and is still being carried out in practice from
Moscow today."

"In 1935 the annual funds which Moscow contributed for the
support of the Communist Party in Spain totalled several million
pesetas, of which two millions were officially acknowledged as having
been paid by the Comintern itself. At the 7th World Congress of the
Comintern in Moscow, in 1935, Dimitroff gave instructions for the
formation of a Front Populaire in Spain. Between February 16 and April
19,1936, 140 people were murdered by gangs of red revolutionaries, and
529 buildings were burned down and destroyed before the Bolshevic
Revolution officially broke out."

"We can account for this baffling style of mutual admiration
between Bolshevism and Western Liberalist Intellectualism only if we
assume it to be some form of mental disease."

"During February and March 101 Russian Soviet aeroplanes were shipped
from Reval to Spain. And on March 1st, 50 heavy guns from Soviet
Russia were brought overland to Almansa. Recently one single large
consignment of was material from Soviet Russia to the Reds in Spain
included 100 heavy tanks, 500 medium-sized tanks, 2000 light tanks,
4000 heavy machine guns, 6000 light machine guns and 300 aeroplanes,
with their pilots."

"I shall now deal with some instances which will help to give an
idea of the extent to which World Liberalism goes in its moral support
of the Reds in Spain. I have already emphasized the fact that the
marriage between Bolshevism and Democracy presents some uncanny
features; indeed one might call them downright perverse. In the
historical developement of its activities Democracy has more and more
become the political facade of World Capitalism. Bolshevism now
carries the democratic principle to its ultimate logical application.
We may call it the Democracy of Terror. It increases the pace of that
sanguinary and pitiless developement of which Liberalism had already
mapped out the path. I might illustrate this point by a rather drastic
comparison. In democracy leading heads were out-voted by the counting
of heads. In Bolshevism the same result is obtained by chopping off
heads with the guillotine. The result in both cases is the same. The
heads are wanting. The masses are robbed of their natural leaders and
left prey to international Jews, who are now free to exercise their
dictatorship by the employment of terrorization and money."

"Pleasing catchwords were used to win the favour of the
workers but when the communist leaders came into power social terror
became the rule of the day. Among the workers and peasant classes
hunger prevailed, as symbol and sign of the Bolshevic rule."

"In keeping with the Soviet Russian pettern, family life and
the instituton of marriage are being ruined by this world plague.
Degradation of married women, the socialization of women, the
martyrdom of children--these are the principles which are in vogue
here."

"According to the 'Daily Mail' of August 22, 1936, Twenty-eight
nuns from the convent of Santa Clara "were subjected to inconceivable
tortures by relays of red maniacs."

"But Bolshevism in practice is nothing better than the most
frightful find of barbarism. It is the outward expression of the
hatred of the underworld agianst all those who are representative of
Western civilization and a cultural level to which Bolshevism can
never hope to attain."

"Among the 20,000 churches and monasteries which the Reds have
plundered and destroyed many were of historical and architectual
significance which cannot be replaced."

"But the churches of the world remain passive to it all and do not
seem to have the least suspicion as to the deadly menace that
threatens them. This is where Bolshevism shows itself again as the
incarnation of evil. Its destructive influence on the popular
religious instinct goes to the very roots of that instinct itself. And
this ruthless atheistic campaign spares nothing whatsoever which might
serve to remind the people of God and religion. The one fact alone
that the Fuerer has saved the German churches from this fate should be
enough to make them feel bound to remain eternally thankful to him.
But instead of this they never tire of going beyond the sphere of
their religious duties, interfering in political matters and making
their influence felt in a way that has no connection whatsoever with
their duties or their divine calling."

"According to indisputable figures based exclusively on
Bolshevic statistics, 42,000 priests have been murdered in Russia. Up
to February 2,1937, approximately 17,000 priests and monks and eleven
bishops were murdered in Spain."

"A Swedish refugee stated, on November 10, 1936: 'I have seen
churches on the walls of which the murdered bodies of women were hung,
nuns that had been beheaded or burned and whose bodies had been nailed
in rows to the church walls."

"The Strassburg paper, 'Der Elsasser', in its issue of
February 27, 1937 published the staggering fact that '50,000 Spanish
children are at the present moment wandering through Spanish
provinces, abandoned and in rags. All public activities for the
welfare of the youth have been abolished. And so the youngsters, very
often no more than four or five years old, are left no alternative.
They stagger along the road in swarms, shivering with cold and are
nothing more than wandering skeletons.'"

"One shudders to think what might happen to humanity if this
system became universal throughout the world."

"Bolshevism and its 'friendly press' throughout the world lose no
opportunity of pointing an accusing finger at the alleged use of
terror in countries which are governed according to the principles of
authority. The whole world gives a cry of agonizing sympathy when, for
example, a Jew in Germany receives a well-earned box on the ears. But
what is this when compared with the terror that disrupts whole
nations"

"Lenin himself, when asked at the 12th Congress of the Red Party,
what were the principles on which Communism relied, answered: 'Murder,
destruction, not a stone to be left in place if its removal should be
to the advantage of the Revolution.'"

"The Jewish Soviet Ambassador in London finds it convenient to
express his moral indignation before the Non-Intervention Committee in
London. The world and the League of Nations are hypocritically
appealed to. Before these tribunals the Jew Litwinow-Finkelstein plays
the part of the civilised philistine and fills Europe with cries of
protest."

"The Intenational Brigades which are sent into action on the Red
Spanish front are commanded by Soviet officers. Their commander was
the Jew, General Kleber."

"We shall not be deterred from pointing to the Jew as the inspirer,
the instigator and the beneficiary of the dreadful catastrophe."

"At Barcelona he sits, in the person of Wladimer Bischitzki as
director of the international oragnization for the smuggling of arms
and munitions, comrades Lurje and Fuchs, of his own racial breed,
sitting by his side. His Paris agents are his racial compatriots,
Fratkin, Rosenfeld and Schapiro. At Hirtenberg in Austria their
collaborator is the Jew, Mandl. In Amsterdam the Jew, Wolf. In
Rotteerdam the Jews, Cohen, Gruenfeld, Kirsch, and Simon. In Denmark
the Jew, Moses Israel Diamant. In Prague the Jews, Kindler, Kahn,
Abter and Hithner. We know them all and we know them well."

"The fact that Western Liberalism closes its eyes to this evil
portent is only a sign of its almost childish naivety."

"A struggle for native land and liberty, for honour and family
and God and religion, for wife and child, for school and upbringing,
for order, moral principle, culture and civilization, for our lives
and our daily bread , has begun. In Germany it has already been
brought to a triumphant issue."

Dave Heil

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Oct 17, 2010, 12:11:11 AM10/17/10
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On 10/16/2010 10 05, Topaz wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:57:47 +0000, Dave Heil<k8...@frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I think we can find several hundred people right on this newsgroup who
>> will agree that your intellect is sub par.
>
> You have your head up your aft end, figuratively speaking.

You have your head up your ass literally speaking, Toupee.

Would you care to put your IQ question to a newsgroup poll?

Topaz

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Dave Heil

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Oct 18, 2010, 1:31:55 AM10/18/10
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On 10/17/2010 16 49, Topaz wrote:
> by Frank Roman
> and Debbie O'Connor
>
> THE TRAGEDY unfolding before us is the planned disappearance of the
> White race through the process of racial blending and replacement.

There is no reported shortage of white people, Toupee.

Topaz

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Oct 18, 2010, 4:54:47 PM10/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:31:55 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>On 10/17/2010 16 49, Topaz wrote:

50 years ago America was 90% White. Now it is around 70% White. The
experts are saying that the way things are going it will be 50% White
in around thirty years or whatever.

Ray Fischer

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Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:31:55 +0000, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 10/17/2010 16 49, Topaz wrote:
>>> by Frank Roman
>>> and Debbie O'Connor
>>>
>>> THE TRAGEDY unfolding before us is the planned disappearance of the
>>> White race through the process of racial blending and replacement.
>>
>>There is no reported shortage of white people, Toupee.
>
>50 years ago America was 90% White. Now it is around 70% White. The
>experts are saying that the way things are going it will be 50% White
>in around thirty years or whatever.

Good. Homogenity is boring and weaker.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Topaz

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Oct 20, 2010, 5:09:00 PM10/20/10
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There is no Escape!
By David Duke

There is no escape from the terror of the future.
You can run away for a while.
But the terror will catch up to you.
It will destroy you and everything you love.

No, I am not talking about a new Hollywood horror movie. I am talking
about America. America is changing from the land of our forefathers to
a place where we are no longer at home in spirit, and where our
families are no longer safe in their own homes.

New Orleans has become increasingly like Haiti since the 1960's Civil
Rights movement integrated the schools. Since then, White civil rights
have steadily disappeared.

First the schools deteriorated into cesspools of violence, drugs,
ignorance, barbarity and venereal disease. Blacks always had access to
public schools, but now, almost all Whites were driven from them. They
went from a majority, to less than four percent today. Whites were
driven from the buses and streetcars. In the buses where Blacks once
rode in the back, now Whites dare not ride at all! To do so is just
too dangerous. Friendly and tidy White neighborhoods discovered the
true joys of forced racial integration: junk cars, prostitutes and
drug dealers on the streets. The only Whites remaining in many
neighborhoods fearfully live now behind bars in homes that have become
reverse jails meant to keep the criminals out.

Black political power transformed New Orleans into a corrupt Black
banana republic. Taxes went up, services went down. The condition of
the streets wrecks the cars. Housing projects are so strewn with trash
they look as though they belong in a Third World Country. Rape, murder
and robbery are daily occurrences in the same city where I could once
walk anywhere as a child. Of course, traditional American values and
culture are gone now also. America founding fathers names such as
George Washington's are removed from schools by the Black school board
because he is, "an immoral example for the children." Kwanzaa, a Black
pagan celebration, has replaced Christmas celebrations in schools.

For the last forty years, Whites have steadily fled the city of New
Orleans. They left thousands of the beautiful and stately homes; many
of the beautiful, oak-lined boulevards; and the intangible history and
charm of what was once America's most romantic city. Now its old charm
can only be found in a few heavily policed areas that the tourists
visit or where the very richest live. Yet, frequently a tourist will
veer from the protected areas and find themselves robbed, raped, or
murdered by denizens that would be more at home in the most primitive
tribes of Africa.

The White refugees first fled mostly to Jefferson Parish, a White
redoubt where they could regain the semblance of a normal life. But,
then, Jefferson began its demographic darkening, so the Whites again
packed up their belongings once more and moved even further away. Some
ended up across Lake Ponchartrain, willing to drive three hours a day
to get to and from work, all so their families would be safe.

Some even pretended that they came to North Shore for the trees. But
they certainly didn't move to the now Black areas in New Orleans where
flourish live oaks, some of the most magnificent and beautiful trees
in the world. Most of the new North Shore residents knew, at least
somewhere deep inside, why they fled and why they came to the area
where I now live. I was candid about my choice of Mandeville. I like
the demographics. I like being among my own kind, living in the kind
of clean and beautiful environment our people create. In the last
election for U.S. Congress, I warned my neighbors on the North Shore.
I told them that conditions of New Orleans would eventually come to
them unless a great political change happened in America. A week ago,
a graphic example of what I had warned them about, occurred.

Just a mile from where I live and work, in a subdivision called
Woodridge, a beautiful 25-year-old mother of four, Samantha Jaume, was
brutally murdered in her home by a Black intruder who had followed her
home from a shopping center. He apparently wanted to steal her new
vehicle. The quick thinking of her seven-year-old son, Jason, almost
saved his mother and probably prevented the murder of his sisters and
himself. He hid himself under a desk and called the police.

Samantha lost all of her civil rights including her right to live. Her
husband's civil rights were also violated, and her four children
suffered loss of their Civil Rights more than any Black person in the
1960's who had to use separate water fountains. This family lost wife
and mother for the rest of their lives. If you want to know the true
cost of integration, it is White lives. If Mandeville were truly the
White area so many seek, Samantha would still be alive. Do we dare to
discuss the other hundreds of victims who have suffered a similar fate
over the years on the North Shore? Or the millions of White victims of
Black crime across America. And, it can only get worse. When the North
Shore population goes the way of New Orleans, Jefferson, and of the
new America of the 21st century, the loss of Samantha will be replayed
so many times that Whites will become refugees once more. But, where
will they go? Massive non-white immigration, differential birthrates,
and intermarriage will make our people a rapidly shrinking minority.
Our racial enemies will not stop their darkening of America until
there is no refuge for our people, only annihilation.

This is no movie. This is real life. There is no escape from the
coming terror. It is time we turn around and fight. We must wrest
control of our political system from those who would obliterate our
people. It is too late for Mrs. Samantha Jaume, but not too late for
her children, and for our children if we begin our road back today. My
life is consecrated to that task. How about yours?
Visit our website at www.whitecivilrights.com

Dave Heil

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On 10/20/2010 21 09, Topaz wrote:
>
> There is no Escape!
> By David Duke

> No, I am not talking about a new Hollywood horror movie. I am talking


> about America. America is changing from the land of our forefathers to
> a place where we are no longer at home in spirit, and where our
> families are no longer safe in their own homes.


That's odd. I'm at home "in spirit" and in reality. I'm safe in my
home. Maybe I don't say and do the things that David KKK Duke does.
Neither did my forefathers.

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