What happened to the "Carbon Footprint" buzzword?
bala...@yahoo.com
the junk pile of history.
instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
esp. societal,
corporate and political responsibility is in order.
bala...@yahoo.com
Larry Bud
It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
Server 13
"Larry Bud" <larryb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181324058....@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
rofl Oh yeah, the republican front org hit piece. lol When will they do
an Expose on Cheney's mansion?
Rod Speed
You're always welcome to reduce your carbon footprint to zero by topping yourself thoughtfully.
Rod Speed
> Larry Bud <larryb...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> balanc...@yahoo.com wrote
>>> Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in the junk pile of history.
>>> instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and esp. societal, corporate and
>>> political responsibility is in order.
>> It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated
>> to have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>> http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
> rofl Oh yeah, the republican front org hit piece. lol When will they do an Expose on Cheney's
> mansion?
He wasnt the one demanding everyone else reduce their carbon footprint.
Larry Bud
> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1181324058....@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in
> >> the junk pile of history.
> >> instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
> >> esp. societal,
> >> corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>
> > It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
> > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>
> >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>
What part of it is wrong? If you have conflicting data on Al Gore's
heating bill, please post a copy for everyone to see.
> lol When will they do
> an Expose on Cheney's mansion?
I'm sure Cheney has similar expenditures. The difference is that he's
not flying around in private jets telling everyone to conserve. Do
you not recognize extreme hypocrisy when you see it?
Server 13
Server 13
> On Jun 8, 2:10 pm, "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
>> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181324058....@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in
>> >> the junk pile of history.
>> >> instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
>> >> esp. societal,
>> >> corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>>
>> > It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
>> > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>>
>> >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>>
>> rofl Oh yeah, the republican front org hit piece.\
>
> What part of it is wrong?
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/wp-print.php?p=10049
http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2007/03/smearing-of-al-gore.html
http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section=9&screen=news&news_id=54656
http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2007/02/a_far_too_conve.htm
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/02/charges_counter.html
If you have conflicting data on Al Gore's
> heating bill, please post a copy for everyone to see.
>
>> lol When will they do
>> an Expose on Cheney's mansion?
>
> I'm sure Cheney has similar expenditures. The difference is that he's
> not flying around in private jets telling everyone to conserve. Do
> you not recognize extreme hypocrisy when you see it?
I recognize that this is a pathetic straw man pushed by poeple who can't
fault the science.
Eat vegetables?
You filthy vegan. lol
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Server 13 <i...@casual.com> wrote
>>> Larry Bud <larryb...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> balanc...@yahoo.com wrote
>>>>> Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words
>>>>> in the junk pile of history.
>>>>> instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility
>>>>> and esp. societal, corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>>>> It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated
>>>> to have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>>>> http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>>> rofl Oh yeah, the republican front org hit piece. lol When will they do an Expose on Cheney's
>>> mansion?
>> He wasnt the one demanding everyone else reduce their carbon footprint.
> Relevance?
Even you can't actually be THAT thick.
bala...@yahoo.com
Maybe, but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h) have a
far-far worse carbon foot print
from the products they sell, and they have no qualms squashing
anything that threatens to ultimately
replace their product.
Rod Speed
> Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> bala...@yahoo.com wrote
>>> Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in
>>> the junk pile of history.
>>> instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
>>> esp. societal, corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>> It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated
>> to have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>> http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
> Maybe,
No maybe about it,
> but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h) have a
> far-far worse carbon foot print from the products they sell,
Pity they are just supplying what people want to buy.
> and they have no qualms squashing anything that threatens to ultimately replace their product.
Just another of your silly little drug crazed lefty fantasys, comrade.
zeez
>
> Just another of your silly little drug crazed lefty fantasys, comrade.
That's nice.
Wordsmith
It ain't dead. It's just hibernating.
W ; )
Larry Bud
> > not flying around in private jets telling everyone to conserve. Do
> > you not recognize extreme hypocrisy when you see it?
>
> I recognize that this is a pathetic straw man pushed by poeple who can't
> fault the science.
What are you talking about? Al Gore tells me to use less energy, yet
he uses 20 times the amount of the average family. Walk the talk, Mr.
VP.
None of this conflicts with the amount of energy Al Gore consumes.
Why are you such an apologist? Don't you think Al Gore should follow
his own advice?
Larry Bud
> On Jun 8, 10:34 am, Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in
> > > the junk pile of history.
> > > instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
> > > esp. societal,
> > > corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>
> > It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
> > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>
> >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>
> Maybe, but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h) have a
> far-far worse carbon foot print
> from the products they sell,
Do you want them to stop selling oil?
> and they have no qualms squashing
> anything that threatens to ultimately
> replace their product.
Should they try to help others put them out of business?
zeez
> On Jun 9, 7:18 am, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 10:34 am, Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in
> > > > the junk pile of history.
> > > > instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
> > > > esp. societal,
> > > > corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>
> > > It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
> > > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>
> > >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>
> > Maybe, but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h) have a
> > far-far worse carbon foot print
> > from the products they sell,
>
> Do you want them to stop selling oil?
I'd like them to work on changing over to a replacement fuel, and
sell the oil for
making things like plastic.
>
> > and they have no qualms squashing
> > anything that threatens to ultimately
> > replace their product.
>
> Should they try to help others put them out of business?
Should they keep polluting the enviroment knowing damn well what they
are doing AND trying their
best to squash technologies that are much cleaner and just as good if
not better?
Rod Speed
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed mindless conspiracy theorys.
Larry Bud
> > > > > the junk pile of history.
> > > > > instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
> > > > > esp. societal,
> > > > > corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>
> > > > It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
> > > > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>
> > > >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>
> > > Maybe, but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h) have a
> > > far-far worse carbon foot print
> > > from the products they sell,
>
> > Do you want them to stop selling oil?
>
> I'd like them to work on changing over to a replacement fuel, and
> sell the oil for making things like plastic.
What? A replacement fuel for what vehicles? If we have internal
combustion engines, and gasoline is the best bet.
> > > and they have no qualms squashing
> > > anything that threatens to ultimately
> > > replace their product.
>
> > Should they try to help others put them out of business?
>
> Should they keep polluting the enviroment knowing damn well what they
> are doing AND trying their
> best to squash technologies that are much cleaner and just as good if
> not better
So now the sellers of oil are polluting the environment?
BTW, You didn't answer my question.
What technologies? If there were better technologies, they would be
used.
What kind of fuel does your car burn?
Larry Bud
> On Jun 11, 8:52 am, Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 7:18 am, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 8, 10:34 am, Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > > Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in
> > > > > the junk pile of history.
> > > > > instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and
> > > > > esp. societal,
> > > > > corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>
> > > > It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated to
> > > > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>
> > > >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>
> > > Maybe, but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h) have a
> > > far-far worse carbon foot print
> > > from the products they sell,
>
> > Do you want them to stop selling oil?
>
> I'd like them to work on changing over to a replacement fuel, and
> sell the oil for
> making things like plastic.
BTW, you're more than free to get some venture capitalists together
and start your own company to develop an alternate fuel.
Gordon Burditt
>> > have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>>
>> >http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>>
>> rofl Oh yeah, the republican front org hit piece.\
>
>What part of it is wrong? If you have conflicting data on Al Gore's
>heating bill, please post a copy for everyone to see.
>
>> lol When will they do
>> an Expose on Cheney's mansion?
>
>I'm sure Cheney has similar expenditures. The difference is that he's
>not flying around in private jets telling everyone to conserve. Do
>you not recognize extreme hypocrisy when you see it?
When Cheney travels around the country lecturing people on gun
safety, on the evils of letting no-competitive-bid governement
contracts, and the environmental damage done by Halliburton, that's
hypocrisy.
I don't know what Cheney has said in public regarding "family values"
and heterophobia, but you just might find hypocrisy in public statements
about homosexual unions and his approval or lack thereof vs. his
treatment of his daughter.
Larry Bud
> I don't know what Cheney has said in public regarding "family values"
> and heterophobia, but you just might find hypocrisy in public statements
> about homosexual unions and his approval or lack thereof vs. his
> treatment of his daughter
When Cheney makes a movie about family values, get back to me.
zeez
Check this one out. Hydrogen powered car:
http://easygrowhouseplants.blogspot.com/2006/12/inventor-of-water-powered-car-murdered.html
zeez
wrong link (that one was a hoax, unfortunately) Here's the right one:
http://wave3.com/Global/story.asp?s=4934566 This one still uses gas,
but someday, this thing might
be able to run purely on water (actualy, HHO) if he can get the
problems worked out of storing the HHO
(so the gas part isn't needed) and possible rust/corrosion problems
with the engine.
Rod Speed
> Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Boy, that one sure died fast, joining carbs and other fad words in the junk pile of history.
>>>>>>> instead of buzzwords, maybe more actual personal responsibility and esp. societal,
>>>>>>> corporate and political responsibility is in order.
>>>>>> It died when the biggest "green" loudmouth, Al Gore, was calculated
>>>>>> to have a carbon footprint 20 times the national average.
>>>>>> http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
>>>>> Maybe, but the oil barons (which are best buddies with Bu$h)
>>>>> have a far-far worse carbon foot print from the products they sell,
>>>> Do you want them to stop selling oil?
>>> I'd like them to work on changing over to a replacement
>>> fuel, and sell the oil for making things like plastic.
>> What? A replacement fuel for what vehicles? If we have
>> internal combustion engines, and gasoline is the best bet.
>>>>> and they have no qualms squashing anything that
>>>>> threatens to ultimately replace their product.
How odd that they havent squashed the hydrogen you refer to below.
>>>> Should they try to help others put them out of business?
>>> Should they keep polluting the enviroment knowing damn well what
>>> they are doing AND trying their best to squash technologies that are
>>> much cleaner and just as good if not better
How odd that they havent squashed the hydrogen you refer to below.
>> So now the sellers of oil are polluting the environment?
>> BTW, You didn't answer my question.
>> What technologies? If there were better technologies, they would be used.
> Check this one out. Hydrogen powered car:
> http://easygrowhouseplants.blogspot.com/2006/12/inventor-of-water-powered-car-murdered.html
How odd that they havent squashed that.
And the production of the hydrogen still pollutes anyway.
Rod Speed
Nope, there's plenty of buses running on hydrogen now.
> This one still uses gas, but someday, this thing might
> be able to run purely on water (actualy, HHO) if he can get the
> problems worked out of storing the HHO
> (so the gas part isn't needed) and possible rust/corrosion problems
> with the engine.
There's plenty of buses running on hydrogen now.
The problem is that they still pollute because the production of the hydrogen pollutes.
Larry Bud
> but someday, this thing might
> be able to run purely on water (actualy, HHO) if he can get the
> problems worked out of storing the HHO
> (so the gas part isn't needed) and possible rust/corrosion problems
> with the engine
IOW, there are no better technologies.
And how exactly have the oil companies squashed this research you're
pointing to? How much capital have you expended in developing new
fuel technologies? What kind of fuel does YOUR car burn? (obviously,
gasoline, otherwise you would have answered already).
BTW, you realize that water vapor is an even MORE damaging greenhouse
gas than CO2, right?
See, here's the deal. Oil companies, really ALL companies, or at
least though who wish to stay in business for more than a few years,
are going to manufacture or produce a product people actually WANT to
buy. This benefits the manufacturer AND the consumer. Think what
would happen if all oil companies decided tomorrow to abandon oil,
stop refining gasoline, and directed all of their resources on new
technology, for the "betterment" of "society" and the environment. Do
you want that?