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"In spite of decades of vehement vilification, says author
Lawrence Birken, Hitler's views have enduring and dangerous
appeal - not because they are bizarre and alien, but precisely
because they are rational and well grounded in Western thought."

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Hitler as Enlightenment Intellectual: The Enduring Allure of Hitlerism

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Hitler as Philosophe: Remnants of the Enlightenment in
National Socialism, by Lawrence Birken. Westport, Conn.: Praeger,
1995. Hardcover. 120 pages. Reference notes. Bibliography. Index.
$45.00.
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Reviewed by Mark Weber

A specter is haunting the world - the specter of Hitlerism. That, in
short, is the stern warning of this provocative book, written by an
Assistant Professor of History at Ball State University (Indiana),
and published by Praeger, a leading US academic publisher.

In spite of decades of vehement vilification, says author Lawrence
Birken, Hitler's views have enduring and dangerous appeal - not
because they are bizarre and alien, but precisely because they are
rational and well grounded in Western thought. In particular, Birken
stresses, Hitlerism is firmly rooted in the rationalist and
scientific outlook of the 18th-century European Enlightenment. This
is not meant as a compliment, however; the author is hostile to the
West and its traditions. Rejecting the American and Western
historical legacy, Prof. Birken openly calls for a new, racially
homogenized America.

For more than half a century, Hitler and his views have been
ceaselessly demonized in motion pictures, on television and in the
print media. And yet, according to Birken, the appeal of Hitlerism
remains so potent that it threatens the ideal of a racially
"redefined" America of "higher unity." As traditional standards and
long-established cultural, racial and religious values come under
ever greater attack, and as this country's racial and cultural
crisis becomes ever more acute, Birken fears that those who are
unwilling to accept the "redefined" society that is developing in
America and Europe will turn in ever greater numbers to Hitler's
alternative vision of society. Hitlerism, Birken says, will loom
ever larger as a dangerously seductive "siren song."

The author has no doubt made a sincere effort to provide an informed
and objective look at Hitler and his views. But even if we overlook
the numerous misspellings of proper names and titles, and the often
polemical prose style, this is a badly flawed work. Birken's
understanding of what Hitler really thought and believed is both
limited and skewed.

This is due in large part to the author's exclusive reliance on
English translations of Hitler's writings and speeches (apparently
he cannot read German), and a naive trust in unreliable secondary
studies. These include Robert Waite's The Psychopathic God: Adolf
Hitler (1977), a sensationalistic psychodramatization, and Hermann
Rauschning's Revolution of Nihilism (1939), a thoroughly discredited
diatribe. (See "Rauschning's Phony 'Conversations With Hitler': An
Update," Winter 1985 Journal, pp. 499-500.)

Birken also quotes repeatedly from The Testament of Adolf Hitler:
The Hitler-Bormann Documents, supposedly a transcript of "table
talk" remarks made by Hitler in February and April 1945. These
"documents" are fake, says British historian David Irving, who
reports that the late Swiss banker Fran?is Genoud admitted to him
that he was the author.

'A Genuine Intellectual'

Reflecting the ideological perspective that prevails in the Western
world today, scholars of Hitler and Third Reich Germany have tended
to dismiss the German leader's intellectual outlook as simplistic
and crude - or even crazy. Many play down or simply deny Hitler's
place in Western culture "as a means of sanitizing that culture,"
says Birken. "But if we are to read Hitler neither to condemn nor to
praise but merely to understand, then we come away with a very
different conclusion about his place in European history."

Scholars and others have made a major mistake in failing to take
Hitler seriously as a thinker, argues Birken, who believes that the
German political leader "must be regarded as a genuine intellectual"
on a par with Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud. Birken's assessment is
not as startling as many might believe. As he notes, as early as
1953, British historian Hugh R. Trevor-Roper "evoked the image of
Hitler as a kind of synthesis of Spengler and Napoleon, noting that
of all world conquerors the German leader had been the most
'philosophical'..." More recently, German historian Rainer Zitelmann
established in a study of impressive scholarship that Hitler's
outlook was rational, self-consistent and "modern." (R. Zitelmann,
Hitler: Selbtsverst?dnis eines Revolution?s [second edition,
1989].)

Moreover, Hitler's outlook was very much a part of the Western
intellectual tradition. In his "combination of an almost religious
faith with a revolutionary secularism," writes Birken, "Hitler
represented the continuation of an essentially Enlightenment style
of thought ... Nazism, and especially Hitler's exposition of it,
represented an attenuated and popularized form of the Enlightenment
style of thought."

Hitler had a gift for presenting his message in an attractive,
accessible form. Writes Birken:

The most attractive feature of Hitler's ideology was thus
its optimism. It was not merely his mood but his message
that carried an infectious excitement. He was a secular
messiah proclaiming a Germanic version of the "good
news." The possibility of class reconciliation, the plans
for a national revival, the identification of a universal
enemy whose elimination would usher in the millennium,
all stirred his audiences to the very depths. Hitler
spoke the language of the [Enlightenment] philosophes, a
language that had almost passed out of existence in the
rarefied strata of the grand intelligentsia.

However, placing Hitler and Hitlerism in the intellectual tradition
of the West, Birken continues, "should do less to raise our opinion"
of Hitlerism, than to "lower our opinion" of "the intellectual
history of the West."

Economic Views

Hitler's economic worldview, writes Birken, was likewise rational,
self-consistent, progressive, and entirely in keeping with Western
tradition. "Hitler's economic ideas were also permeated by
Enlightenment notions of progress," and were "closer to Ricardo and
Marx than to Machiavelli or Keynes." Birken adds:

A careful reading of his speeches and writings suggests
that he was neither a mercantilist nor a Keynesian,
neither a medievalist nor a marginalist. Rather ... his
economic ideas fit all too well into the classical-
physiocratic style of thought

Hitler believed that social and national considerations, not
economic ones, should be paramount in society. The economic and
political system must serve the nation, not the other way around.
Thus, Birken points out, while "political economy played an
important role in his thinking," Hitler

did not restore the primacy of the state after all but,
quite the contrary, subordinated the state itself to a
dynamic of aggressive technological and cultural
expansion. In doing this, Hitler also asserted himself
against the last remnants of aristocratic civility at the
same time that he opposed the emerging relativism of
consumer culture.

As Birken explains, Hitler believed that "all growth could be traced
to individual effort - but only at the service of the common good.
He thus tempered what might be taken as a 'libertarian' definition
of inventiveness with a somber collectivism." Believing that
socially useful creativity was "the product of individual geniuses
of high personality value," Hitler supported equal social
opportunity for all, and opposed legal and social barriers to
individual economic achievement and success. Governmental and social
policies, he believed, should encourage merit-based social mobility.

Hitler was critical of both capitalism and Marxism - the first
because it was "insufficiently democratic," and the latter because
it was "too democratic" or "leveling." While supporting economic
growth across national boundaries, "Hitler also took what he
considered to be a conservative stand against the coming hyper-
commercialism of an emerging global economy."

Views on Race and Religion

Although he is endlessly castigated as "the most notorious racist of
the twentieth century," Hitler's racial views were actually quite in
harmony with mainstream 19th- and early 20th-century European
thinking. "It should be obvious," writes Birken, "that Hitler
possessed a 'classical' theory of race which dovetailed nicely with
his classical notions of political economy." Far from being aberrant
or bizarre, his views on race were consistent with those of most
prominent Westerners in the decades before the Second World War. And
while Birken does not specifically mention it, Hitler's racial views
were comparable to those of Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt,
Woodrow Wilson and Winston Churchill.

Contrary to popular belief, Hitler never supported notions of
breeding a homogenous blond "hyper-Aryan" race. Accepting the
reality that the German population consisted of several distinct
sub-racial groups, he stressed the German people's national and
social unity. A certain degree of racial variety was desirable, he
thought, and too much racial blending or homogeneity could be
harmful because it would homogenize and thus eliminate superior as
well as inferior genetic traits.

Hitler believed that "both conservative prudery and radical
eroticism" harmed society, and he opposed birth control because it
tended to lower the genetic quality of the society that practices
it.

While he was critical of Christianity, Hitler was no atheist. "The
religion of Hitlerism was thus essentially a kind of deism,"
concludes Birken. Like Thomas Jefferson and other prominent early
American leaders, Hitler equated God with "the dominion of natural
laws throughout the whole universe." Thus, "for Hitler, national
socialism was natural socialism."

Attitude Toward Jews

It is "of course, a great mistake to see anti-Semitism as a
rejection of Enlightenment values," writes Birken. "On the contrary,
the Enlightenment simply secularized rather than destroyed
traditional Judeophobia." (No Western thinker was more outspokenly
anti-Jewish than Voltaire, the great French philosopher, who regarded
the Jews as "enemies of mankind.") The Enlightenment concept of
social "fraternity," Birken writes, demands social solidarity, which
implies that Jews, as an alien and self-absorbed people, cannot fit
in.

Hitler's hostile attitude toward Jews, Birken writes, was neither
irrational nor aberrant. He saw "Jews as the personification of a
great lie": that is, while they pretended to be merely a religious
community, in fact they constituted a self-selected national-ethnic
group with international ambitions. Because he regarded the Jews as
the enemies of all peoples, Hitler held that combatting Jewish power
and influence should be the common duty of all nations - a view that
Birken calls an expression of "Germanic universalism."

The United States

Hitler's attitude toward the United States was mixed. He saw much to
admire in 18th- and 19th-century America, and as Birken notes, he
praised this country's pre-1940s pro-White racial policies, its
restrictions on non-White immigration, and its pioneering adoption
of eugenics measures.

But Hitler also saw ominous trends during the 1920s and 1930s.
Echoing the views of American industrialist Henry Ford, he was
dismayed by the spectacular growth of Jewish power and cultural
influence, and regarded Franklin Roosevelt's "New Deal"
administration as a virtual revolution in American life, through
which Jews largely usurped the country's traditional ruling class.

A Persistent Allure

The defeat of Germany in 1945, Birken rightly notes, "clearly marked
a watershed" in world history, and especially for the West:

In a real sense, Hitler's defeat implicitly became the
defeat of the European nation-state and the Enlightenment
values that underpinned it. Germany's heirs, the United
States and the Soviet Union, were both fundamentally
transnational, multiracial empires whose territories were
seemingly unlimited.

As a result, for half a century we have been living in what Birken
calls a "consumer capitalist" world in which "the hierarchical order
of sex and race which had originally sustained bourgeois nationalism
has been disintegrating" and in which "the increasing relativization
of values is encouraged by the ever greater globalization of the
economy and consequent emergence of a multinational business elite."

This new world order is less durable than it might appear, says
Birken. The recent collapse of the multi-ethnic, multi-racial Soviet
Union, he warns, portends similar problems for the American empire.
Even a mere contraction of the economy could threaten "to dissolve
the United States into several races." In Birken's view, racial
nationalism threatens "the continued existence of the United
States." He warns:

What Hitler said in the thirties is thus what our racial
nationalists are saying today: namely, that a genuinely
inclusive multiracial nation violates the natural order
of things. The United States must either be a white-
dominated state or a collection of breakaway republics
made up of this or that group.

In short: if Hitler was right, America is an increasingly unnatural
and artificial construct that does not deserve to survive, and will
not survive.

Birken fears that Hitlerism will become ever more
attractive to those who reject today's supra-national "consumer
capitalism," and who resist the rapidly emerging "genuinely
inclusive multiracial" order. This alternative vision has appeal
beyond America and Europe, Birken believes. As he notes, Hitler's
fight against the British empire - a war he actually never sought
nor wanted - "won him [Hitler] the admiration of colonial peoples
from Ireland to India ...."

A New 'Cosmic' Nation

Birken concludes his book with a fervent call for "the gradual
formation of an American race as a higher synthesis. Then the
Americans will truly constitute a universal or 'cosmic' people." In
Birken's view, the "race myth" and Hitlerism "will continue to tempt
us" unless Americans "can be given a genuine metaphysical
foundation." This "metaphysical foundation" must be to "uncreate
race" through massive racial mixing. Therefore, Birken writes, "we
should not be afraid of that dirty little word, 'miscegenation'."
(Consistent with this vision, President Bill Clinton, in his much-
discussed June 14, 1997, speech in San Diego on race relations,
openly proclaimed the goal of making America "the world's first
truly multiracial democracy.")

Given the reluctance of many Americans, particularly conservative
Whites, to warmly embrace this new "universal" nation, Birken says
"we must have an education system that is able to instill this
redefinition of American culture."

"Before we try uniting the world," Birken concludes, "let us try
uniting ourselves. Until we do so, the siren song of Hitlerism will
call to us."

Stark Alternatives

To anyone who views the past with an open mind, history demonstrates
the utterly fantastic nature of the goal laid out by Prof. Birken
(and President Clinton) - a vision no less utopian than Marxian
Communism. In any case, to meld the American population into a
"universal" racial-cultural entity would require government
repression on a scale unimaginable today.

Few Americans today are able or willing to fully grasp the enormous
implications of the radical program that intellectuals such as
Birken (and political leaders such as Clinton) are spelling out for
our future. But once they do (and as Prof. Birken fears) many will
likely turn to Hitlerism as an alternative to the official
prevailing ideology. The decades-long campaign of vilification of
Hitler and Third Reich Germany may actually contribute to this by
convincing millions of Americans that Hitlerism is the antithesis of
the Establishment's ideology, and thus the only real alternative.

In spite of its defects, Hitler as Philosophe effectively dispels some
widely held misconceptions about Hitler and Hitlerism, acknowledges the
critical importance of the race issue, and boldly spells out stark
alternatives for the future of America and Europe. For this the author
deserves credit.

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Journal of Historical Review, 16/5 (Sept-Oct 1997), 34-37.


Michael O'Niell

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JaX wrote:

[not-so-subtle apologia for Hitlerism]

There is a gulf between principle and practice.

Anyone can call a principle into being. A certain amount of native
intelligence allied to a basic education and limited experience of the
world will suffice.

Anyone can develop a practice. A certain amount of local agreement and a
willingness to work at it will suffice.

Carrying out a working practice from a guiding principle is difficult,
but not impossible.

The enduring legacy of the Third Reich rests not the inherent viability
of it principles nor the workability of its practice, but that it
successfully bridged the gulf. It did so using a trick.

The trick is the fact that a society can still function using a principle
based on falsehood and a practice based in inhumanity to our fellow man,
once the myth of the universal enemy has been invoked to suspend the
disbelief and focus the populace.

Then the universal enemy was the Jewish conspiracy.

Today the universal enemy is Muslim terrorists.

In both cases the myth of the universal enemy was invoked by the Leaders
in order to grow their power base. It is the biggest lie of them all.
Being the biggest lie, it is the easiest to say and to swallow.

All subject populations, educated or uneducated, either fail to see its
operation, or unseeing, seek to subdue the voice of those few who do.

The myth of the universal enemy dates back to the first tribe. All
Leaders, natural or learned, understand this myth.

In democratic societies, it is defined as the universal challenge, the
acclaimed end that justifies taxation and spending.

In emerging societies, it is defined as the social problem of the day
that must be tackled before it destroys civilized society as we know it.

In barbaric societies it is defined as the vermin in our midst that must
be destroyed lest it destroys us.

In short, it distracts the subject population and means the Leaders don't
have to address the many problems a society generates in and of itself.

The practitioners of this myth and are alive and well today.

M.

Mike Wilcox

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Michael O'Niell wrote:

Simple as this concept is, very few people "get it". Without the universal
enemy for the public to vent their anger at they would soon look elsewhere
for the source of their problems.


--
Mike Wilcox
--

Michael O'Niell

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I am utterly boggled by this fact, which rears its ugly head time and
time again.

One explanation I have found is based in sociobiology.

Identify the "other", i.e. not-of-our-genepool.

No objections to the atrocities carried out to the other in order to
further the our-genepool.

Demonize the other and persecute, as required.

This behaviour is exacerbated by the power seekers in lean years using
the universal enemy to rise to, or be associated with those arising to,
prominence.

Proof of this assertion was sighted on a recent documentary of the rise
to power of the SS in pre-war Germany. In one town of IIRC say 10,000,
there were only some 20-30 SS officers, not enough to generate the
innumerable reports of deviant or treasonous behaviour.

On sifting through the reports a significant number were made by Germans
against German citizens. Only a proportion of those named were Jews. A
significant majority were neighbours the reporter disliked for either
real or imagined insults, often going back years.

It seems that instead of helping each other as had happened when the
chips were down, the promise of glory to come was what prompted the worst
of human instincts to surface.

Indeed I see it also in Ireland today, where street violence and
drunkeness appear to go hand in hand with arrogance and the new
prosperity. Partly this is due to us no longer exporting 30,000 young
people a year to see kwork elsewhere, among them the greediest and
greatest piss-heads, but partly this seems to be endemic to the rise of a
greater number of affluent people in society.

Its come as a shock to some to realise that the caricature of the Irish
abroad as loud trouble making drunks may not have been all Orange Lodge
and WASP propaganda.

FWIW

M.

natasha

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j...@pro.west (JaX) wrote in message news:<DHZFZINI38083.5747685185@Gilgamesh-Frog.org>...

> "In spite of decades of vehement vilification, says author

Hitler was impotent. His followers today are too.

Natasha

neptune3

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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:59:19 +0100, Michael O'Niell <o...@indigo.ie>
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>Then the universal enemy was the Jewish conspiracy.
>
>Today the universal enemy is Muslim terrorists.
>

Jews are the enemy both now and then. Muslims are angry America
because America is ruled by the Jews.

Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
media and because the Jews were behind Communism. Here are some quotes
from Mein Kampf:


"In my eyes the charge against Judaism became a grave one the
moment
I discovered the Jewish activities in the Press, in art, in
literature and
the theatre. All unctuous protests were now more or less futile. One
needed
only to look at the posters announcing the hideous productions of the
cinema and theatre, and study the names of the authors who were
highly
lauded there in order to become permanently adamant on Jewish
questions.
Here was a pestilence, a moral pestilence, with which the public was
being
infected. It was worse that the Black Plague of long ago. And in what
mighty doses this poison was manufactured and distributed. Naturally,
the
lower the moral and intellectual level of such an author of artistic
products the more inexhaustible his fecundity. Sometimes it went so
far
that one of these fellows, acting like a sewage pump, would shoot his
filth
directly in the face of other members of the human race. In this
connection
we must remember there is no limit to the number of such people. One
ought
to realize that for one Goethe, Nature may bring into existance ten
thousand such despoilers who act as the worst kind of germ-carriers
in
poisoning human souls. It was a terrible thought, and yet it could
not be
avoided, that the greater number of the Jews seemed specially
destined by
Nature to play this shameful part.
"And is it for this reason that they can be called the chosen
people?
"I began then to investigate carefully the names of all the
fabricators of these unclean products in public cultural life. The
result
of that inquiry was still more disfavourable to the attitude which I
had
hitherto held in regard to the Jews. Though my feelings might rebel a
thousand time, reason now had to draw its own conclusions.
"The fact that nine-tenths of all the smutty literature,
artistic
tripe and theatrical banalities, had to be charged to the account of
people
who formed scarcely one per cent of the nation- that fact could not
be
gainsaid. It was there, and had to be admitted. Then I began to
examine my
favorite 'World Press', with that fact before my mind.
"The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my respect for
that
Press which I formerly admired. Its style became still more repellant
and I
was forced to reject its ideas as entirely shallow and superficial.
To
claim that in the presentation of facts and views its attitide was
impartial seemed to me to contain more falsehood than truth. The
writers
were- Jews.
"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me
now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand things
which I
had formerly looked at in a different light."



"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried
to
read articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in
doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff.
From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I recalled to
mind the
names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then I realized that most
of
them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social Democratic
representatives in
the Imperial Cabinet as well as the secretaries if the Trades Unions
and
the street agitators. Everywhere the same sinister picture presented
itself. I shall never forget the row of names- Austerlitz, David,
Adler,
Ellonbogen, and others. One fact became quite evident to me. It was
that
this alien race held in its hands the leadership of that Social
Democratic
Party with whose minor representatives I had been disputing for
months
past."


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neptune3

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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:38:42 -0400, Mike Wilcox
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>
>Simple as this concept is, very few people "get it". Without the universal
>enemy for the public to vent their anger at they would soon look elsewhere
>for the source of their problems.
>

Nonsense. The Jews are the enemy.

Exposing the Real Racists

Edgar Johnston, PhD. reviews an important new book

Jewish Supremacism by David Duke. Published by Free Speech Press, 2003

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More than 500,000 copies of 'Jewish Supremacism' have been
sold worldwide. It is even sold within the Russian
Duma (parliament).
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In 1905, a new book was catalogued in the British Library. Its title
was The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and it claimed to be
the secret minutes of Jewish elitists who planned to dominate the
world. Most authorities now view The Protocols of Zion as an elaborate
forgery concocted by agents of the Russian Czar.

Over the last century since the book's release, thousands of other
books have been written on what is called the 'Jewish Question'. The
vast majority of them defend the Jewish people from the forces of
'Anti-Semitism', yet still the best selling book on the Jews since
1905 has been The Protocols, which has been published in most of the
world's languages. According to prominent Jewish leaders in Russia,
the popularity of 'The Protocols' has now been eclipsed by a new book
titled Jewish Supremacism. Unlike The Protocols, this book is no
forgery, for its author is proud of his work. He is the controversial
American politician David Duke, a former member of the Louisiana House
of Representatives.

Jewish leaders are extremely fearful of this book. I can illustrate
the cause of their concern by giving an example of David Duke's
technique in exposing what he calls Jewish supremacism.

If any prominent political person in the Western World publicly
announced that Jews are frequently disloyal to nations where they live
and that they view Gentiles as racially inferior, he would face
excoriation as an 'anti-Semite'. Probably, he would be driven from
office. Duke has no need to make such claims, for he simply quotes
very prominent and powerful Jews who make his point for him.

FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH

In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, Duke quotes Dr. Richard
Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish
organisation in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a
2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:-

'I'll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my
generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-
separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative years... I
attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign
flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colours, sang a foreign
national anthem, learned a foreign language... and was taught the
superiority of my people to the 'Gentiles' who oppressed us.

'We were taught to view non-Jews as... people less sensitive,
intelligent and moral than ourselves.'

This method of quoting major Jewish figures and sources is used
hundreds of times in Duke's book to advance his thesis that there is a
powerful Jewish supremacist element in Judaism and Zionism that
threatens not only the freedom of the Palestinian people but all
nations, including the United States.

Duke also uses direct quotes from the Talmud and other major Jewish
sources, such as the Jewish Encyclopedia to expose a long-standing
cadre of hateful, anti-Gentile Jewish supremacists. Shocking quotes
are displayed from major Jewish magazines that boast of a Jewish
supremacy over the media and politics of the United States. He finds
disturbing and hateful words from Jewish leaders, such as Ariel
Sharon, which openly support genocide, and he reveals quotations from
Israeli leaders who equate Zionism and Nazism. Of course, he also
cites many prominent Gentiles of historical and contemporary times,
but the Jewish quotations and sources have the greatest power.
Frankly, they are so convincing that Jewish leaders have sought to get
the book banned in many nations.

Interestingly, Jewish Supremacism was published first in Russia, the
same nation that gave birth to The Protocols of Zion. In 2000 it
quickly became a best seller throughout the entirety of the former
Eastern bloc. It even sells briskly in the corridors of the Russian
Duma (Parliament) and has prompted Levinsky, Goldman and other leading
Jews to seek its ban under old Soviet laws forbidding 'anti-Semitism'.

In the Autumn of 2000, Levinsky and others filed a formal complaint to
the Russian Prosecutor General and asked for the book to be classified
as anti-Semitic and thus illegal. After a year of close examination
(they painstakingly verified all 669 of the documentations), the
Russian Government shocked the Jewish community by officially
declaring that the book is not anti-Semitic. Jewish members of the
Duma then introduced new legislation aimed at outlawing 'Jewish
Supremacism', but it failed by a few votes.

Since then, the book has been sold in thousands of street corners
across the breadth of the Russian Federation and has now topped an
incredible 500,000 in print.

Translated into most of the Eastern European languages, the book has
won Duke many academic awards for its scholarship, including an
honorary Doctorate awarded by President's University, the second
largest university in the nation of Ukraine.

Subsequently the university itself published a best-selling Ukrainian
edition. In May of 2003, Free Speech Press published the English
version of Jewish Supremacism, accompanied by a storm of interest and
controversy. Jewish leaders are horrified that it is well on its way
to becoming the best-read book in the world on Zionism.

SMEARS BACKFIRED

Although Zionist organisations have tried to use Duke's media
characterisation as a 'white supremacist' to discredit his book, so
far their exploitation of his early-life involvement in a KKK group
has only backfired by making the book and its author more newsworthy.
Attacks by the ADL and other pro-Zionist groups have led to
sensationalist news coverage, causing even greater interest and
confounding those who desperately wanted Duke's book to die a quiet
death.

David Duke decries the label of white supremacist and says that while
he certainly desires the preservation of his own heritage he seeks no
supremacy over others. He maintains that those who scream most
hatefully against him are themselves guilty of the most extreme and
powerful supremacism on earth: Jewish supremacism.

When Duke lectured in some Persian Gulf nations last year, Zionist
leaders attempted to undercut his support by allegations of 'racism'.
Those organised efforts had little affect on the overflow, mixed-race
audiences that cheered almost his every word. As a former university
professor and a writer who has lectured occasionally on behalf of the
people of Palestine, I approached David Duke's book out of a curiosity
elicited by the intense Zionist efforts to suppress it. Actually, I
had readily accepted the negative portrayals of him I had read in the
Jewish press, but I wanted to see what all the commotion was about.
Why were they so anxious to ban this book and slander its author? To
my great surprise I discovered a most amazing book!

David Duke stated that he had set out with the ambitious goal of
writing the most powerful expose of Zionism ever put into print. With
extreme scepticism of his ability to accomplish such a lofty goal, I
began to read. Three days later, as I turned the last page, I knew
that he had accomplished more than he dreamed. Rather than just
assembling his facts in a dry textbook fashion, David Duke presents
his thesis in the first person. It is the personal narrative of a
thoughtful and enlightened young man who is sympathetic to Zionism,
but is awakened to its supremacist core that not only threatens the
Palestinians but his own beloved European-Americans as well. I could
not find even a trace of hatred, intemperance or true anti-Semitism in
this book. However, by extensive quoting of important Jewish leaders
and Zionist source materials, Duke exposes a deep well of Jewish
supremacist hatred against Gentiles. He points out that one is
unfairly labelled an 'anti-Semite' simply for exposing the hateful
pronouncements of Jewish supremacists.

ABSOLVES SOME JEWS

The book is clearly not anti-Semitic. Duke goes at length to point out
that not all Jews are supremacists, and that the supremacists not only
endanger the Gentile world but threaten innocent Jews by exposing them
to an inevitably hostile Gentile reaction. The book is in fact
dedicated to the late Dr. Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor and
Israeli peace activist whose life was dedicated to saving both Jews
and Gentiles from the dangers of 'Jewish supremacism'. David Duke
cleverly turns the term 'anti-Semitic' on its head by quoting
columnist Joseph Sobran's remark that the 'anti-Semite' is no longer
someone who dislikes Jews; he is now simply a person whom the Jews
don't like.

Jewish Supremacism begins with David Duke's first great epiphany on
the Jewish question: his learning that the Russian Revolution wasn't
Russian but overwhelmingly Jewish. Using powerful documentary
evidence, he shows that the Bolshevik Revolution was actually financed
and led by Jews who had their own agenda against the Czar. He quotes
from familiar and impeccable sources such as Winston Churchill, the
dispatches of the American ambassador to Russia, the chief of British
Intelligence and copious Jewish sources. For instance, he quotes a
report from the National Archives of the United States showing that of
the 384 members of the first Bolshevik government, there were more
than 300 Jews and only 13 ethnic Russians.

How could such an enormous fact of history be hidden? Duke asks. His
rhetorical question is answered throughout the rest of this book by
giving the clear evidence of the tremendous power exercised by Jewish
supremacists in government, media and the academic establishment. Not
only has the pre-eminent Jewish role in the Bolshevik Revolution and
its Gulags been quietly suppressed, but also even the very existence
of Jewish supremacism has been kept from public awareness. One can
freely discuss the evils of white supremacism, but if one dares to
expose Jewish supremacism, one will assuredly be labelled an 'anti-
Semite', the ultimate term of opprobrium in modern society. In very
effective arguments, Duke points out that one is not called 'anti-
Christian' for exposing the excesses of the Inquisition or 'anti-
Muslim' for opposing the intolerance of some extremist Moslem sects.
But dare simply to quote the hateful statements of important leaders
of Judaism and Zionism, and in many countries one could well wind up
in prison for 'hate speech'.

One of the fascinating themes to which David Duke repeatedly turns is
the easily documented Jewish supremacist strategy of fostering extreme
chauvinism among their own people while at the same time working to
break down the group loyalty of the Gentiles among whom they live.
Jewish leaders have long made clear that Jewish communities often have
agendas that conflict with their Gentile hosts. Duke describes the
struggle over those agendas as similar to the contest of two football
teams. One team cultivates an extreme group loyalty through a chronic
recital of Gentile persecution and an accompanying 'chosen-people'
supremacist vision. The other is instilled with guilt and the idea
that teamwork is immoral. The main Jewish holidays are dominated by
the recounting of Gentile persecutions, and the Holocaust has now
achieved almost a religious significance in Jewish life. Duke quotes
many Jewish leaders proclaiming Jewish superiority and the need for
the race to preserve its racial genotype. Even today, Israel will
grant instant citizenship to an atheist Jew from New York, but forbids
Palestinians who were born in Israel to return. Israel also forbids
marriages between Jews and Gentiles.

While Jewish supremacists have these supremacist policies for their
own people, they relentlessly work to break down the immigration laws
of other nations. While they preach multi-culturalism and diversity
for almost every other country in which they dwell, they themselves
support and expect Americans to support a Zionist State, dedicated
exclusively to the Jewish people, religion and culture.

INFLUENCE ON MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT

In chapters on Jewish influence over the American mass media and
government, Duke offers extensive documentation that exceeds almost
anyone's suspicions. Major Jewish sources are quoted which boast of
their takeover and control of Hollywood, the news media and the most
sensitive part of the Government of the United States. For instance,
Duke quotes a major Israeli newspaper bragging about the fact that
Jews loyal to Israel make up seven out of the eleven members of the
secretive and sensitive National Security Council (NSC). The article
goes on to assert that "America no longer has a government of Goyim"
(Gentiles). Duke also quotes many US presidents and high government
officials who have dared to speak out about the Jewish supremacy over
the establishment. After thoroughly documenting Jewish supremacy in
government and media, he shows how their media power is used to stifle
public knowledge and understanding of this critical issue. Any
legitimate criticism of Jewish Supremacism is labelled 'anti-
Semitism', and the Jewish supremacists almost exclusively define that
term.

In particularly interesting passages, Duke recounts how that when he
looked up the term 'anti-Semitism' in some popular encyclopaedias, he
found that the articles and recommended reading lists were authored
entirely by Jewish zealots! In every conflict with Gentiles, Jews are
always portrayed as completely innocent while Gentiles are portrayed
as totally evil. Duke suggests that the chronic portrayal of Gentiles
as inherently evil toward Jews is for Gentiles the equivalent of
'blood libel' for Jews.

Duke makes a compelling case that the nation of Israel is the doctrine
of Jewish supremacism put into action. In startling documentary
evidence from Israel, he shows that some of the early Zionist founders
of the country readily co-operated with Nazi Germany, praised Nazi
policies and claimed that their own ideology was similar. He also
quotes major Jewish figures in Israel who have had the courage to
condemn Israel's Nuremberg style racial laws, such as former Israeli
Supreme Court member Haim Cohen, thus:-

'The bitter irony of fate, which has led the same biological and
racist laws propagated by the Nazis and which inspired the infamous
Nuremberg laws to serve as a basis of Judaism within the state of
Israel.'

With these kinds of powerful quotes, it is no wonder that Zionists
around the world are extremely fearful of this book.

ON ISRAELI TERROR

Americans will find the last chapter on Israel of particular interest.
Duke unveils the long Israeli record of terrorism. He documents the
horrendous terror waged against the Palestinians; he also exposes
Israel's long record of terrorism and treachery against its greatest
benefactor, the United States! From major Jewish sources, he recounts
the Israeli terrorist attacks against America in the Lavon Affair, in
which Israeli agents set off bombs in American installations in Egypt
in a treacherous attempt to provoke America into war against that
nation. Duke presents copious evidence exposing the deliberate,
murderous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 Americans were
killed and 172 grievously wounded. The terrible damage inflicted on
the United States by Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard is also recounted.

Jewish supremacy in the American media and government has suppressed
any outcry against Israel's treachery. The Jewish supremacists have
even been able to prevent a formal Congressional investigation into
the attack on the USS Liberty. Duke makes the powerful point that
billions of dollars of American aid continue to flow to Israel even
after its treacherous attacks. He writes that supplying this aid is
the moral equivalent of sending military aid to Japan after the attack
on Pearl Harbour.

Duke also shows how the Zionist domination of American foreign policy
led directly to America's 9/11 catastrophe and a whole new series of
foreign policy moves that are leading to disaster. This timely book
shows the Jewish supremacist power behind the Iraq War, the
manipulation of the President and the American people with false
information, and the horrendous damage the war has done to our economy
and even our security. Duke shows how the war is costing us hundreds
of billions of dollars, continues to spill the blood of our military
men and certainly increases world hatred and terrorism against
America.

In one of the most shocking chapters of his work, Duke reveals the
damning evidence of Israeli treachery in the 9/11 attacks. He shows
that a massive Israeli spy ring was uncovered and apprehended in the
months before and after the attacks, and that some of the Mossad
agents had actually monitored the hijackers, including the leader
Mohammed Atta (five Israeli agents lived on his street). Warning
messages of the impending attacks were sent to Israeli firms with
offices both in Israel and the World Trade Centre. A group of Mossad
agents was arrested on 9/11 after they were found to have been filming
and cheering the attacks while they occurred. After they had been held
for a few months, Zionist Michael Chertoff of the US Department of
Justice released all the members of the Israeli spy ring and allowed
them to return to Israel - out of the reach of Congressional 9/11
investigators.

It is impossible to give the reader more than a glance into the depth
and power of this incredible book. Practically every paragraph is a
revelation. There is so much more that I could write about: detailing
how the Holocaust has cynically been used as a Zionist tool in
heightening Jewish solidarity and deflating criticism of Zionism and
Israel; how Jewish supremacists have used immigration as a weapon of
conquest, not only in Palestine but in the Western World as well. I
was fascinated by Duke's expose of Sigmund Freud as a secret Jewish
supremacist who thought of himself as a Hannibal destroying the
foundations of the Christian church and the European family as
Hannibal had sacked Rome. I could go on and on, but I will leave these
discoveries to you when you read this amazing book.

After I completed the book, I wanted to find out if it had the same
affect on others as it had on me. I gave it to two long-time friends
at the university where I taught for 11 years. One has conservative
leanings; the other is decidedly liberal; and I would describe both of
them as sympathetic to Israel. Both were so fascinated that they could
hardly put the book down, and one became so engrossed that he missed
his regular two o'clock class. They both agreed that Duke's book is
one of the best-argued that they have ever read, and used the
identical term of 'amazing' to describe it. My conservative friend
commented that many quotations were so shocking that he began to check
out the references and found them all to be accurate. "Hell" he said,
"If only half the documents Duke cites are authentic, there is enough
evidence here to start a revolution."

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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 18:19:01 +0100, Michael O'Niell <o...@indigo.ie>
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>One explanation I have found is based in sociobiology.
>
>Identify the "other", i.e. not-of-our-genepool.
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>No objections to the atrocities carried out to the other in order to
>further the our-genepool.
>
>Demonize the other and persecute, as required.
>

Here are some quotes from a German pamphlet titled "Why the Aryan
Law?":
"In 1793 the famous philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, author of
"Speeches to the German Nation," wrote a pamphlet titled "A
Contribution to Correcting Judgments about the French Revolution." It
contained the following significant sentence:
"In nearly all the nations of Europe, a powerful, hostile government
is growing, and is at war with all the others, and sometimes oppresses
the people in dreadful ways: It is Jewry!"
The French Revolution, with its "ideas for the improvement of
humanity" thundered past, and in the noise the people who had believed
in world brotherhood entirely missed this serious warning. What Fichte
warned the word about then has today become fact in nearly all the
nations of the world. The Jewish people, once only tolerated, knew how
to raise a hue and cry about discrimination and persecution, winning
the sympathy of the world for the "poor Jews." They increasingly
infiltrated deep within our national organism, growing to have power
over every single area of our national life. The old saga, the "Edda,"
observes that one blocks a river at its source. The failure to do that
was the great mistake of the German people. Thank God, it is not too
late. Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler recognized the importance of the
problem for Germany's rebirth, and outlined its solution in his
program.
Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their
Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have
seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us
because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to
them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the
non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made
clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race
and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.
National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of
Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading
offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship
between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have
not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in
German national life. It is not a question of German-Jewish
coexistence, rather of making as great as possible a separation
between blood and blood.
Three things are involved here:
A knowledge of the basic principles of National Socialist racial
thinking,
An understanding of the growth and expansion of Jewry,
The dominant sociological position of Jewry, to show how it dominated
the German people economically, intellectually and politically..."
"In discussing the Jewish Question, even today one encounters
resistance and misunderstandings, especially in intellectual circles.
This can only be explained by the intellectual education of the
political past. This is especially evident when one discusses the
fundamental issues.
Whenever a new thought arises in the world and calls people to
practical action, the old world resists because it feels its
foundations threatened. Its old standpoint has ruled for decades, and
it looks uncomprehendingly at a new idea that does not fit into the
accustomed patterns of thinking. That is natural. When the new idea
and worldview are truly revolutionary, they are on a different level
of human thought and feeling, and there can be no compromise. Its
realization depends on people who support it, and who are ready to
fight to transform the life of the individual and of the nation in
every way..."
"In the long run, no idea is better suited to guarantee peace between
nations than National Socialist racial thinking, which calls for the
furtherance and maintenance of one's own race and one's own people,
and supports similar efforts on the part of other nations..."
"The new Germany that views its own race and ethnicity positively must
therefore distinguish within its territory between one race and
another, between one people and another. Mixing of blood harms both
sides. Race is an issue for every people if they are to live according
to their nature. The German people is not so arrogant as to believe
that is is the chosen people. The familiar quotation from Geibel, "The
world should enjoy German ways," should be understood in the context
of the dreams of world betterment of those past days.
The National Socialist racial viewpoint has clear consequences for the
relationship between Germans and Jews. People have often said that
National Socialism's approach to the racial question is purely
negative and destructive, and that its essential characteristic is
radical anti-Semitism. One must grant that we made the Jewish question
clearer than anyone else, and taught an entire generation that had
been taught to see all people the same to recognize the importance of
the Jewish question not only for our people, but for the entire world.
Our treatment of the Jewish problem in the years before we took power
must be seen as the political education of the German people, which
had lost its racial instincts to a dangerous degree.
The question took on its own nature in Germany, Many citizens had
their eyes opened, and the simultaneous appeal to all the heroic and
manly virtues of the German man resulted in a racial selection of
political fighters who today stand at the head of the new state.
Formerly, the Jewish question, as seen by the state, was a matter of
complete equality and the unhindered immigration of Jews from the
East. This is the best proof of how racial feeling and consciousness
had been lost. Our tone was not purely negative or the simple
rejection of others, rather the emphasis was on the positive values of
our own people. This does require noting that Jewry through its
Marxist class struggle leadership role and its international financial
measures aimed at Germany supported every kind of anti-national action
in the cultural and political fields. Jewry should not complain if its
anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other
country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of
anti-Semitism.
The starting point of the discussion is the scientific fact that the
Jew is different than the German. This is neither arrogant nor
boastful, it simply is the way things are. For us, the Jewish question
is a question between two peoples. Its characteristics are determined
by the racially determined differences between the two, and through
the unusual sociological and numerical development of Jewry in the
course of its history, developments that are particularly evident in
the last decades through a constantly growing process of foreign
infiltration that has reached an intolerable level for the German
people.
More than once over its history, the German people has absorbed
foreign elements, but they were racially identical or similar
population groups, as for example was the case with the Huguenots.
With the Jews, things are fundamentally different. They are seen
everywhere as foreigners, and see themselves that way as well. Walter
Rathenau said it most clearly as early as 1897: "How strange! In the
middle of German life there is a separate, foreign tribe that stands
out in every way with its hot-tempered behavior. An Asiatic horde has
settled on the sands of Mark Brandenburg." Einstein said something in
1931: "I have to laugh when I hear the phrase 'German citizen of the
Jewish faith.' These citizens first of all want nothing to do with my
poor Eastern European brothers, and second do not want to be sons of
my (Jewish) people, but only members of the Jewish cultural community.
Is that honest? Can a non-Jew respect such people? I am not a German
citizen. I am a Jew, and am happy to belong to the Jewish people."
The most remarkable thing about Jewry is that it has not disappeared
over the millennia, even though it lacks its own territory and
language. Even more remarkable is that it lacks the main
characteristic of a minority population, its own pockets of settlement
to which it could if necessary retreat. Only time will tell if
Palestine will someday fill this gap. That question is made more
difficult by the fact that the Arabs maintain their claim on
Palestine. Whatever the twists of history, the Jew has always remained
the same, whether as a grain speculator in ancient Rome or as a bank
or stock exchange potentate in the modern era. They were always able
to control the wealth of whole nations. Nations and peoples once their
contemporaries have vanished, leaving only words and crumbled
monuments behind; only the Jew remains. In ancient days we see him
carrying on his business in the trading centers of the Mediterranean.
In the Middle Ages he provided money for German nobles and free
cities. Today he rules the banks and stock exchanges of the whole
world, forcing the nations under the yoke of financial capitalism. The
power of this people of 15 million rests on these international
relations. This is how they seem to fulfill the commandment of Jehovah
- the world domination of the chosen people.
The secret of the Jewish people, which has enabled them to survive
through all of history's twists and turns, is that it has always
recognized the laws of blood, even anchoring them in the laws of its
religion. The consciousness of blood and family that believing Jews
have has been stronger than all the other forces of history, giving us
a unique example of a people without its own land and language, which
still meets the criteria for being a people, and which has outlasted
many other peoples.
This historic manifestation of Jewry, which is unique, brings to the
fore the question of the relationship between the host and guest
peoples. It has been answered in differing ways throughout history,
depending on the worldview and thinking then predominant.
Since the Jews were dispersed they have been held together by the laws
of their religion and their faith that they were the chosen people.
Until the middle of the 18th Century, Germans and Jews lived apart
from each other. The Jews had no opportunity to become involved in the
religious of political-intellectual life of their host people. On the
other hand, they could practice their own customs without
interference. They had their own religion and their own laws. During
the Middle Ages, the Ghetto was the way Jewry could maintain itself in
the midst of other peoples and fulfill its Jewish duties, which grew
out of its race, origins and laws. The values and ideals of other
peoples were not affected. This separation was only possible because
the views of the host people were as strong as those of the Jews.
According to the writer Grau: "There was no racial defilement or
baptism, no attempt to join a nation that one could never be a member
of, and no attempt to intellectually silence the host people." In the
Ghetto of the Middle Ages, the Jew developed his nature and
characteristics, which were later to become significant, while
maintaining the community of blood and race. The latter is
particularly important, since the strict physical separation between
the host and guest peoples maintained the foreign nature that we daily
see so clearly, now that the barriers between have long since fallen.
Even in the Middle Ages, the most important thing was not the
difference between the Christian and Mosaic faiths. Rather, there was
on the one hand the natural sense that the Jew was of a foreign race,
and on the other hand the strict law of blood which demanded a clear
separation if the Jews were to fulfill Jehovah's mission, which had
guided them from the beginning. Just this has always been kept in the
background by historians, who present the Ghetto as a tolerated asylum
for Jewish martyrs persecuted on account of their faith. There is a
gap to be filled here. The task of historians writing from our new
viewpoint will be to examine the portrait of the Ghetto of the Middle
Ages to discover its importance for the development of Jewry and the
relationship between the guest and host peoples. Even the Jewish side
is demanding that. O. Karbach criticizes historical writing because it
"in significant ways conceals the historical fact that the Jews in the
centuries before their emancipation possessed a legal standing that
was better than the greater part of the rest of the population, namely
complete or partial agricultural freedom. (Ordnung in der Judenfrage,
edited by E. Czermak, Reinhold, Vienna, 1933).
The barriers between Germans and Jews fell as a result of the
Enlightenment and the French Revolution. The path to Jewish world
domination would take a different direction than pious, observant Jews
had expected. Emancipation made it possible to build Jewish dominance
through secular means. With the disappearance of racial consciousness,
only religious differences seemed to remain. It seemed at the time
unjust to give someone a preferred position only because of his
religious beliefs, which are an entirely personal matter. At the time,
this was tied to a belief in human equality and freedom. It was
revolutionary. It shattered the church dogmas that had ruled for
centuries and was the foundation of liberal thinking during the last
two hundred years. The new goal was humanity itself, and nothing stood
in the way of racial mixing. Some had the quiet hope that assimilation
would mean the absorption of Jewry. Jewry itself, however, was more
than willing to use the opportunities of religious assimilation, which
opened the path to all important positions, even to political
leadership. As H. Heine said, "baptism was the ticket to European
culture." Gradually, an intermixing with the German people developed,
particularly in its cultural elite. Foreign blood infiltrated to a
degree that we realize only today now that the "Law to Reestablish a
Professional Bureaucracy" has exposed numerous sources of foreign
blood. This process has greatly accelerated during the last fourteen
years.
Today the age of raceless thinking is being displaced by the ideals of
human variability. Values are rooted in origin and territory, and each
group has a historic mission based on its own unique and eternal
values. Such new racial thinking will of course secure the opposition
of those who either through faith or reason still believe in the unity
of humanity in culture, social order and organization. The Jews will
naturally oppose any discussion of race, since the denial of any
significant differences between people is the foundation of his
infiltration of Western European society. The Jew finds any mention of
the racial question as an attack on his current existence. His leading
role in every anti-national area is characteristic of his mimicry, and
is necessary for his continued existence. That explains the phrase
"German citizen of the Jewish faith."
The recognition that the Jew is of a foreign and different race along
with the reawakening of German racial consciousness must necessarily
lead to a change in the relations between Germans and Jews.
There is one point to keep in mind before examining the statistics.
Only those people who claimed to be Jews and were members of the
Mosaic faith were counted as Jews, not those who for internal or
external reasons belonged to another religion, or those who claimed to
be dissident Jews and therefore did not belong to the standard groups.
This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in
the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather
those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether
of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians. That is just what the
supporters of the Talmud and the Old Testament always said. They
complained that the state opened all offices to those "without
character," to "Christmas Jews," even admitting them to the officer
corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased
significantly. The Jews are a race, and baptism does not in any way
change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German
people..."
Of course, the intellectual atmosphere that enabled the Jew to
infiltrate the German body politic quickly led the Jew himself to see
that conditions for his advancement were favorable, and that the way
to the top was open. He also realized what the population statistics
meant, indeed they were particularly clear to him, since 2/3 of his
kind lived in the big cities, the centers of the liberal worldview..."
"Nothing shows the differences between our people and the Jews more
clearly than their likes and dislikes for certain occupations. In some
occupations, particularly those that are most important for the nation
as a whole, the foreign influence on German life has reached an
intolerable extent not seen elsewhere in Europe. The preference for
certain occupations also gives us an interesting insight into the
spiritual nature of Jewry.
The following figures show how much critical occupations in Germany
have been infiltrated.
112,188 Jews, or 58.8%, far more than half, are employed in the area
of "commerce and transportation, including restaurants and taverns,"
but only 17.11% (3,248,145) of the population as a whole. In the area
of "industry and craft work, including mining and construction,"
19,318 Jews (25.85%) were employed, including 31.82% of foreigners.
For the population as a whole, the figure was 40.94% (7,771,799).
The figures in the field of "public administration, the judiciary, the
army and navy, churches, legal professionals and the independent
professions." 11,324 Jews were employed there, or 5.94% , over against
921,048 (4.85%) in the general population..."
In 1925, 0.81% of Jews were active as civil servants and the army and
navy, as opposed to 2.3% of the general population. In the church,
religious occupations, the legal system and the other independent
professions, the Jewish percentage is 4.3% as opposed to 2% of the
general population. This shows that the Jews are over-represented when
compared to the general population, particularly in the independent
professions.
The percentage of the Jewish population in government positions may
seem less than that of the general population, but the difference is
not as great as the figures first suggest. The most recent figures,
not yet entirely complete, suggest that a not insignificant number of
them are baptized Jews or dissidents formerly of the Jewish faith who
denied their Jewishness to gain an official position.
4.35% of Jews are employed in the medical and health care system,
including welfare, and 2.0% of foreign Jews. The figure for the
general population is 1.88%. The Jewish percentage is thus 2 1/2 times
as high as that of the general population.
In summary, Jewish occupational patterns differ from those of the rest
of the population. Jewry seems to have an aversion to agricultural
work, industrial labor and crafts. They are greatly over-represented
in commerce and transportation, including the entire banking system.
They are also over-represented in the independent professions and the
health care system. These figures alone demonstrate a clear difference
between the native German population and alien Jewry.
Very similar conditions prevail in all Western European nations and
also in North America, since Jews have spread throughout the world in
areas with growing industry and in cities that are centers of economic
and financial power. It is not true, as is often claimed, that the Jew
was systematically forced into commerce by the laws of the various
nations; rather, commerce particularly suits the Jew's nature. This is
supported by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, a scholar respected by the Jews. He
writes in his book The Jews of the Present (2nd edition, Cologne and
Leipzig, 1911, p. 45):
"Thanks to their significant commercial gifts (!), the Jews soon
enjoyed great success in commerce and industry. For 2000 years they
have seemed predestined to work in commerce. It is false to claim, as
some do, that Jews became merchants primarily because the Christians
denied them other occupations during the Middle Ages. The Jews did not
become merchants in Europe, rather they entered the profession in
growing numbers ever since the Babylonian Captivity in Syria, Egypt
and Babylon [because they dislike labor and prefer to have others work
for them! The Editor]. In Palestine until the dispersion they did live
primarily by agriculture. In the Diaspora, there was hardly anywhere
that the Jews lived by agriculture. The Middle Ages did not make them
into merchants. It only affirmed legally that which history had
already established. It is after all the rule that economic laws
generally do not create new conditions, but only legalize and regulate
that which already exists. The law would never have limited the Jews
to commerce in Europe if they had not already immigrated primarily as
merchants..."
Nearly all national economists agree that the Jews owe their role as
merchants not to chance, but to their excellent abilities as
merchants. As W. Sombart wrote: "The Jewish race is by nature the
incarnation of the capitalism-mercantile spirit." (Der moderne
Kapitalismus, Vol. 2, p. 349. Leipzig, 1902). Many others agree..."
"Similarly differences in the relative proportion of Jews by the
self-employed are evident in the medical field, which employs 0.5% of
the general population but 2.8% of the Jews, nearly six times as many.
Similar statistics are found in the cultural area (theater, film,
radio, education, teaching, etc.). The 0.4% of the general population
are employed there, 2.6% of the Jews, also about six times as many.
In the area of public administration and the judiciary, the percentage
of Jews in high positions is 2.0%, over against 1.3% of the general
population, nearly twice as high. The significance of these figures
becomes clear that when one realizes that the 2.3% of professional
Jews in public administration and the judiciary are in a branch where
the Jewish percentage of employees is only 0.81%. That means that the
Jews are especially represented in the important positions that
influence the whole government and leading branches of the economy.."
"The statistics may be interesting. The Jewish workers included 11,406
in industry, 2,220 in commerce and transportation, and 726 in
agriculture.
The following figures show most clearly the different social structure
of Jewry in Prussia over against the general population, and reveal
clearly Jewry's leading role in public life:.."

"On 19 May 1933 Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler gave an interview to
Bernard Ridder, an American journalist for the New York State
Newspaper. Discussing the Jewish Question in Germany, he said: "Should
I allow thousands of German-blooded people to be destroyed so that the
Jews can live and work in luxury while millions starve, falling victim
to Bolshevism out of desperation?"
Can the justice of his words be doubted when one recalls that,
according to the Prussian census of 16 June 1925 6.9% of all
independent pharmacists, 17.9% of all independent physicians, 4.8% of
all independent artists, 27% of all independent attorneys, 4.6% of
editors, 11% of theater directors, 7.5% of actors, and 14.8% of all
independent dentists were Jews! And these huge figures when the Jews
were only 1% of the population! Is that anything other than a
Jewdification of our entire cultural system?! And what would these
figures look like if one had had the ability to include baptized Jews
and dissidents?..."

"Berlin is the Jewish metropolis in Germany. The process of
Jewdification is considerably further along. That is understandable,
since one is in the immediate vicinity of the protective arms of
democracy and social democracy, where developments can occur
unhindered. Thus in Berlin on 16 June 1925 32.2% of the pharmacists
were Jews, as were 49.9% of the physicians, 7.5 of the graphic
artists, 50.2% of the attorneys, 8.5% of the editors, 14.2% of the
directors and theater heads, 12.3% of the actors and 37.5% of the
dentists.
These figures cry out for legal limitations on Jewry, and it is
surprising that former governments did not take the appropriate action
to tell the Jews "this far and no further."
The Jewish influence gave the rest of the world an entirely false
impression of the nature of the German people. Inside the Reich, they
poisoned the soul of the people, and all social and political
relationships. Until the national uprising, the leaders of the
National Socialist movement were persecuted, defamed and suppressed by
a system that was a willing tool in the hands of a foreign and
different race. The national revolution freed the German people from
this foreign influence, which had also dominated and ruined the German
press and public life in significant ways.
He who wants to understand the German revolution of 1933 must
understand that it had this goal: 'Germany must be governed by Germans
for Germans.' The central idea of the National Socialist revolution
was the longing of the German people to once more be master in every
area of its own life. As a great, confident people, we demand only
this of the other peoples: that they permit us, as their equals, to
govern ourselves as we wish and find our own way to happiness (Reich
Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick)..."

"The Jewdification of our colleges and universities over the years has
reached almost frightening proportions. We begin with a publication
from 1931. Karl Hoppmann, in his volume "On the State of Jewdification
in the Academic professions" found the following figures:
1. University of Berlin:
Medical faculty . . . . over 50%
Philosophical faculty . . . . 25%
2. University of Göttingen, 32% of the professors were Jewish:
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . .40.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 23.0%
3. University of Breslau
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.0%
4. University of Frankfurt (Main)
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 28.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.0%
Economics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28.0%
Jewry has a dominating role on the stock exchange. The board of the
Berlin stock exchange is almost exclusively Jewish. In the various
committees, the percentage of the Jewish race is sometimes many times
as high as the Aryan. The committees include:
That means that 117 or 147 members are Jews, or nearly 80%.
The extent of the Jewdification of German theater and film is evident
from 1931 figures. Of 234 theater directors, 118 (50.4%) were Jews, 92
(39.3%) were non-Jewish.
Berlin led in this area as well, with 23 of 29 theater directors (80%)
Jewish.
The situation in film is similar. The Viennese Catholic periodical
"Schönere Zukunft," which certainly cannot be accused of
anti-Semitism, wrote the following in its 3 February 1929 issue:
"The percentage of Jewry in today's film industry is so high, at least
by us in Germany, that there is only a tiny part left for Christian
firms."

Jewry has long sought political influence as well. This formerly
happened in covert ways, mostly through direct or indirect control of
money matters. Nearly every noble once had his financial Jew. Since
1848, the birth of political parties in Germany, Jewry has openly
sought to become a political power. The Jew Marx was the founder of
Marxist doctrine, the Jew Lassalle was the founder of the Social
Democratic Party. The founders of the Independent Social Democratic
Party of Germany were the Jews Bernstein, Haase, Kautsky, Hilferding,
Cohn, Davidsohn, Simon, Rosenfeld, Eisner, Levi, etc. Carl Liebknecht
and Rosa Luxemberg were the leaders of the Communist Party, and
recently the Jews Rosenfeld and Seydewitz founded the Socialist
Workers Party. Jews sat in the press offices and the various editorial
offices of party newspapers, and above all in the various
parliamentary factions..."

"We think it necessary to mention that the Communist wave that
threatened to destroy Germany politically, economically and
intellectually can primarily be traced back to Jewry.
Is it any wonder that the Jew is arrogant? The greater the Jewish
influence the more secure they feel, and the more ominously and
clearly their character and goals becomes clear: Pride, intolerance
and superiority on the one hand, a drive for world domination on the
other. Several pointed Jewish statements are examples:
Hochmut: The familiar "Dorfgeschichte"-Auerbach says: "We Jews are the
most intelligent race." "We are the chosen ones," says Dr. Berhard
Cohn (Jüdisch-Politische Streitfragen, 20, 22). He continues: "We may
carry our head high and demand particular respect. We must not only be
treated equally, but better. We deserve the particular respect of
other peoples."
Rabbi Dr. Rulf wrote a book ("Aruchas bar-Ammni," Israel's Healing,
Frankfurt a. M. 1883) in which he says: "The Jewish people is a
blessing for all peoples. The blessing has followed on the heels of
the Jews. A whole world lives from the Jews, who feed everyone, and
everywhere spread wealth and pleasure, comfort and prosperity. Only
the commerce of the Jews creates value. Work alone does not do that.
Half of the world's population would starve without the Jews."
The Jew Dr. Duschak wrote: "The world could not exist without the
Jews." The well-known Jew Sacher-Masoch explained the hatred of
anti-Semites against the Jews in this way: It is the same hatred a
Negro feels against the whites because of their superiority.
That the Jews even went so far as to suggest to Bismark that he make
the Jewish Day of Atonement a national holiday is certainly no sign of
modesty.
Intolerance: The Jew Klausner (Society, edited by Conrad, Volume 12)
wrote: "Anti-Semitism and criminality are nearly the same thing. There
are criminals who were not anti-Semites, but no anti-Semites who were
not criminals."
The work by Dr. E. Fuchs. "The Future of the Jews," (Berlin,
Philo-Verlag, 1924) judges our greatest historians, Hartmann and
Treitschke, who see the Jews as our misfortune: "Men blinded by
prejudice and hatred. Small, tiny men."
World Domination: The Jewish attorney Maurthner in Vienna said back in
the 1880's: "It is not just a matter of fighting anti-Semitism. We
want to oppose it with Jewish domination!"
They made the attempt. If the German people had not recovered their
senses at the last moment, and if they had not had a Fuehrer and
Chancellor named Adolf Hitler who recognized the danger and woke the
German people, we would have fallen into slavery. As we have already
noted, the Jew has always known how to rouse sympathy when things were
rough for him. Consider this report from the meeting of the PEN Club
in Ragusa at the end of May of last year: "Schalom Asch in his keynote
address noted that the suffering of the Jews in Germany had aroused
the sympathy of the entire world. Only the German government remained
untouched. He claimed the Jews has given Germany its deepest thoughts,
its most beautiful songs, its greatest poets, artists and
philosophers. Today one had crucified them in Germany and covered them
with their own blood." Mr. Schalom Asch began crying in the midst of
these outrageous lies. He spoke in the hope that his words would be
heard for the sake of justice and humanity throughout the world.
The Jew Asch cries! The German people are not moved. They want no
torture or persecution, but also no unjustified sympathy, only
justice! Remember always the worlds of Field Marshall Moltke: "The Jew
is a state within the state." Remember also the works of our great
historian Mommsen: "In antiquity too the Jew was the ferment of
cosmopolitanism and national decomposition." And remember Goethe: "The
Israelites have never done much; they possess few virtues, and most of
the deficiencies of other peoples!"
The Racial Question has an important role in the laws of other
nations, though other peoples and races are affected than in the
German Reich. It is in no way new or unusual that the German Reich is
active in this area. Contrary to opinions that surface here and there,
our laws are in no way directed against the Jewish religion, its
practice, or the freedom of the Jewish faith.
The German Reich has done nothing but introduce constitutional
legislation to provide the kind of civil service necessary to
guarantee the secure administration of the Reich. The laws do not
render it impossible for a citizen of a foreign state to become a
civil servant. Indeed, if he is appointed to such a position, he
receives full citizenship in the Reich. German civil servants should
however be of Aryan descent. The so-called Aryan Law requires that
each civil servant be of German blood. Since the vast majority of
non-Aryan civil servants were Jews, the first guidelines to the law
paid particular attention to those who were members of the Jewish
race. But we did not simply throw out the non-Aryan civil servants,
but retired them with honor and a pension. The people's state could
hardly proceed in a more legal and mild manner. Germany did not want
to attack Jewry wildly, rather only deal with its results, is clear
from the fact that the Law of 7 April 1933 left untouched all
non-Aryan civil servants who had been appointed before 1 August 1914,
and by the fact that the private sphere not affected. Some complain
that the law extends to half and quarter Aryans. The answer is that
the foreign influence in the civil service had grown to such a
dangerous extent that it was almost impossible for young Germans to
enter these professions." (Reich Minister of the Interior Dr.
Frick..."

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Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:

"In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
the 'freedom of the press.'
In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every
case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the
editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor
tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next
day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless
slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Public opinion thus
mobilized by them is, in its turn, split up into political parties.
The difference between these parties is as small as it formerly was in
Germany. You know them, of course - the old parties. They were always
one and the same. In Britain matters are usually so arranged that
families are divided up, one member being a conservative, another a
liberal, and a third belonging to the labor party. Actually, all three
sit together as members of the family, decide upon their common
attitude and determine it. A further point is that the 'elected
people' actually form a community which operates and controls all
these organizations. For this reason, the opposition in England is
really always the same, for on all essential matters in which the
opposition has to make itself felt, the parties are always in
agreement. They have one and the same conviction and through the
medium of the press mold public opinion along corresponding lines. One
might well believe that in these countries of liberty and riches, the
people must possess an unlimited degree of prosperity. But no! On the
contrary, it is precisely in these countries that the distress of the
masses is greater than anywhere else. Such is the case in 'rich
Britain.'
She controls sixteen million square miles. In India, for example, a
hundred million colonial workers with a wretched standard of living
must labor for her. One might think, perhaps, that at least in England
itself every person must have his share of these riches. By no means!
In that country class distinction is the crassest imaginable. There is
poverty - incredible poverty - on the one side, and equally incredible
wealth on the other. They have not solved a single problem. The
workmen of that country which possesses more than one-sixth of the
globe and of the world's natural resources dwell in misery, and the
masses of the people are poorly clad.. In a country which ought to
have more than enough bread and every sort of fruit, we find millions
of the lower classes who have not even enough to fill their stomachs,
and go about hungry. A nation which could provide work for the whole
world must acknowledge the fact that it cannot even abolish
unemployment at home. For decades this rich Britain has had two and a
half million unemployed; rich America, ten to thirteen millions, year
after year; France, six, seven, and eight hundred thousand. Well, my
fellow-countrymen - what then are we to say about ourselves?
It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such
are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters
is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the
factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The
masses of the people do not interest them in the least. They are
interested in them just as were our bourgeois parties in former times
- only when elections are being held, when they need votes. Otherwise,
the life of the masses is a matter of complete indifference to them.
To this must be added the difference in education. Is it not ludicrous
to hear a member of the British Labor Party - who, of course, as a
member of the Opposition is officially paid by the government - say:
'When the war is over, we will do something in social respects'?
It is the members of Parliament who are the directors of the business
concerns - just as used to be the case with us. But we have abolished
all that. A member of the Reichstag cannot belong to a Board of
Directors, except as a purely honorary member. He is prohibited from
accepting any emolument, financial or otherwise. This is not the case
in other countries.
They reply: 'That is why our form of government is sacred to us.' I
can well believe it, for that form of government certainly pays very
well.. But whether it is sacred to the mass of the people as well is
another matter.
The people as a whole definitely suffer. I do not consider it possible
in the long run for one man to work and toil for a whole year in
return for ridiculous wages, while another jumps into an express train
once a year and pockets enormous sums. Such conditions are a disgrace.
On the other hand, we National Socialists equally oppose the theory
that all men are equals. Today, when a man of genius makes some
astounding invention and enormously benefits his country by his
brains, we pay him his due, for he has really accomplished something
and been of use to his country. However, we hope to make it impossible
for idle drones to inhabit this country.
I could continue to cite examples indefinitely. The fact remains that
two worlds are face to face with one another. Our opponents are quite
right when they say: 'Nothing can reconcile us to the National
Socialist world.' How could a narrow-minded capitalist ever agree to
my principles? It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and
cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the
ideas which are accepted facts to us today. But we have solved our
problems.
To take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be
fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency
basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We,
too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I
came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold
standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the
gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part
with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign
exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the
previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret
it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different
basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an
agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated.
When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to
build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the
German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers,
technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which
animates our economic system. One simple question faced me: Are we to
perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which
spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though
we have no gold, we have capacity for work.
The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with
this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We
want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must
build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work.
My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work.
We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist
countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy.
Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will
step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by
no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed
by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable.
German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold
itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German
farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to
the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole
problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.
My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In
seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the
unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find
workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have
declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to
support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.'
Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for
us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the
blessing which work brings.
Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone
can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The
work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to
work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to
its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the
world's goods.
We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic
system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into
full-time workers; we are even working overtime. And all this is paid
for in cash in Reichsmarks which maintained their value in peacetime.
In wartime we had to ration its purchasing capacity, not in order to
devalue it, but simply to earmark a portion of our industry for war
production to guide us to victory in the struggle for the future of
Germany...
One thing is certain, my fellow-countrymen: All in all, we have today
a state with a different economic and political orientation from that
of the Western democracies.
Well, it must now be made possible for the British worker to travel.
It is remarkable that they should at last hit upon the idea that
traveling should be something not for millionaires alone, but for the
people too. In this country, the problem was solved some time ago. In
the other countries - as is shown by their whole economic structure -
the selfishness of a relatively small stratum rules under the mask of
democracy. This stratum is neither checked nor controlled by anyone.
It is therefore understandable if an Englishman says: 'We do not want
our world to be subject to any sort of collapse.' Quite so. The
English know full well that their Empire is not menaced by us. But
they say quite truthfully: 'If the ideas that are popular in Germany
are not completely eliminated, they might become popular among our own
people, and that is the danger. We do not want this.' It would do no
harm if they did become popular there, but these people are just as
narrow-minded as many once were in Germany. In this respect they
prefer to remain bound to their conservative methods. They do not wish
to depart from them, and do not conceal the fact.
They say, 'The German methods do not suit us at all.'
And what are these methods? You know, my comrades, that I have
destroyed nothing in Germany. I have always proceeded very carefully,
because I believe - as I have already said - that we cannot afford to
wreck anything. I am proud that the Revolution of 1933 was brought to
pass without breaking a single windowpane. Nevertheless, we have
wrought enormous changes.
I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the
capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy
is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in
turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making
capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for
the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is
but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of
feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a
few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good,
excellent; my dividends are splendid.'
However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn
the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we
mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense
of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British
capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76,
80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry.
Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove
victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'
They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of
affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from
this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have
definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a
whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose
arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the
country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the
National Socialist state will intervene.
To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called
directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a
board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey.
They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and
travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at
about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the
report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They
may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2
o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward
journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly
surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation
for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time
it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we
have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled
profiteering and even bribery.
In Germany, the people, without any doubt, decide their existence.
They determine the principles of their government. In fact it has been
possible in this country to incorporate many of the broad masses into
the National Socialist party, that gigantic organization embracing
millions and having millions of officials drawn from the people
themselves. This principle is extended to the highest ranks.
For the first time in German history, we have a state which has
absolutely abolished all social prejudices in regard to political
appointments as well as in private life. I myself am the best proof of
this. Just imagine: I am not even a lawyer, and yet I am your Leader!
It is not only in ordinary life that we have succeeded in appointing
the best among the people for every position. We have
Reichsstatthalters who were formerly agricultural laborers or
locksmiths. Yes, we have even succeeded in breaking down prejudice in
a place where it was most deep-seated -in the fighting forces.
Thousands of officers are being promoted from the ranks today. We have
done away with prejudice. We have generals who were ordinary soldiers
and noncommissioned officers twenty-two and twenty-three years ago. In
this instance, too, we have overcome all social obstacles. Thus, we
are building up our life for the future.
As you know we have countless schools, national political educational
establishments, Adolf Hitler schools, and so on. To these schools we
send gifted children of the broad masses, children of working men,
farmers' sons whose parents could never have afforded a higher
education for their children. We take them in gradually. They are
educated here, sent to the Ordensburgen, to the Party, later to take
their place in the State where they will some day fill the highest
posts....
Opposed to this there stands a completely different world. In the
world the highest ideal is the struggle for wealth, for capital, for
family possessions, for personal egoism; everything else is merely a
means to such ends. Two worlds confront each other today. We know
perfectly well that if we are defeated in this war it would not only
be the end of our National Socialist work of reconstruction, but the
end of the German people as a whole. For without its powers of
coordination, the German people would starve. Today the masses
dependent on us number 120 or 130 millions, of which 85 millions alone
are our own people. We remain ever aware of this fact.
On the other hand, that other world says: 'If we lose, our world-wide
capitalistic system will collapse. For it is we who save hoarded gold.
It is lying in our cellars and will lose its value. If the idea that
work is the decisive factor spreads abroad, what will happen to us? We
shall have bought our gold in vain. Our whole claim to world dominion
can then no longer be maintained. The people will do away with their
dynasties of high finance. They will present their social claims, and
the whole world system will be overthrown.'
I can well understand that they declare: 'Let us prevent this at all
costs; it must be prevented.' They can see exactly how our nation has
been reconstructed. You see it clearly. For instance, there we see a
state ruled by a numerically small upper class. They send their sons
to their own schools, to Eton. We have Adolf Hitler schools or
national political educational establishments. On the one hand, the
sons of plutocrats, financial magnates; on the other, the children of
the people. Etonians and Harrovians exclusively in leading positions
over there; in this country, men of the people in charge of the State.
These are the two worlds. I grant that one of the two must succumb.
Yes, one or the other. But if we were to succumb, the German people
would succumb with us. If the other were to succumb, I am convinced
that the nations will become free for the first time. We are not
fighting individual Englishmen or Frenchmen. We have nothing against
them. For years I proclaimed this as the aim of my foreign policy. We
demanded nothing of them, nothing at all. When they started the war
they could not say: 'We are doing so because the Germans asked this or
that of us.' They said, on the contrary: 'We are declaring war on you
because the German system of Government does not suit us; because we
fear it might spread to our own people.' For that reason they are
carrying on this war. They wanted to blast the German nation back to
the time of Versailles, to the indescribable misery of those days. But
they have made a great mistake.
If in this war everything points to the fact that gold is fighting
against work, capitalism against peoples, and reaction against the
progress of humanity, then work, the peoples, and progress will be
victorious. Even the support of the Jewish race will not avail the
others.
I have seen all this coming for years. What did I ask of the other
world? Nothing but the right for Germans to reunite and the
restoration of all that had been taken from them - nothing which would
have meant a loss to the other nations. How often have I stretched out
my hand to them? Ever since I came into power. I had not the slightest
wish to rearm.
For what do armaments mean? They absorb so much labor. It was I who
regarded work as being of decisive importance, who wished to employ
the working capacity of Germany for other plans. I think the news is
already out that, after all, I have some fairly important plans in my
mind, vast and splendid plans for my people. It is my ambition to make
the German people rich and to make the German homeland beautiful. I
want the standard of living of the individual raised. I want us to
have the most beautiful and the finest civilization. I should like the
theater - in fact, the whole of German civilization - to benefit all
the people and not to exist only for the upper ten thousand, as is the
case in England.
The plans which we had in mind were tremendous, and I needed workers
in order to realize them. Armament only deprives me of workers. I made
proposals to limit armaments. I was ridiculed. The only answer I
received was 'No.' I proposed the limitation of certain types of
armament. That was refused. I proposed that airplanes should be
altogether eliminated from warfare. That also was refused. I suggested
that bombers should be limited. That was refused. They said: 'That is
just how we wish to force our regime upon you.' ...

Mike Wilcox

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neptune3 wrote:

Thank you for proving the point of how a propagandist uses the universal enemy
to divert attention. It's laughable how you use the opinions of a known racist
(Duke) one of the most evil men of all time (Hitler) and keep referring to a
text that's been a known hoax for fifty years to back up your argument. Look in
the mirror and you'll see where the real problem is.


--
Mike Wilcox
--

Len

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>> In both cases the myth of the universal enemy was invoked by the Leaders
>> in order to grow their power base. It is the biggest lie of them all.
>> Being the biggest lie, it is the easiest to say and to swallow.
>> The myth of the universal enemy dates back to the first tribe. All
>> Leaders, natural or learned, understand this myth.
>> In democratic societies, it is defined as the universal challenge, the
>> acclaimed end that justifies taxation and spending.
>> In emerging societies, it is defined as the social problem of the day
>> that must be tackled before it destroys civilized society as we know it.
>> In barbaric societies it is defined as the vermin in our midst that must
>> be destroyed lest it destroys us.
>> In short, it distracts the subject population and means the Leaders don't
>> have to address the many problems a society generates in and of itself.
>> The practitioners of this myth and are alive and well today.

>Simple as this concept is, very few people "get it". Without the universal


>enemy for the public to vent their anger at they would soon look elsewhere
>for the source of their problems.

I ascribe to what you guys say, when put in proper context and
perspective.
But we are missing two large building in New York, and close to 3,000
people. And that same building was touched up by the same tribe around
1993. Or were you not aware of the above?

Godzilla Pimp

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"natasha" <cherryo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The truth will never die.

Heil Hitler

GP


The Pervert

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"Godzilla Pimp" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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That's true, despite your best efforts.


Mike Wilcox

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Len wrote:

The logical mind would ask, "who are these people, what's their goal and how did
they get past our defences in the first place". But what does the government do?
They trot out the old
"these people hate us because we have freedom", brand anyone who asks questions
as traitors or unpatriotic. On top of that they then refuse to even appoint a
commission on the tradgedy until public pressure forces them to. I think you
should
be aware of that ;~)


--
Mike Wilcox
--

Transfiguration

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Hitler didn't invent war, dumbass. For a generation, Europe was
brainwashed into admitting millions of these Arabs and now they
suddenly realize, 'hey, wait, these people aren't friendly'.

It's like Hitler invented dickheadedness or something. Most these
people are all as big a dickhead as Hitler, just not as smart and
competent.

Michael O'Neill

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neptune3 wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:59:19 +0100, Michael O'Niell <o...@indigo.ie>
> wrote:
>
> >Then the universal enemy was the Jewish conspiracy.
> >
> >Today the universal enemy is Muslim terrorists.
> >
> Jews are the enemy both now and then. Muslims are angry America
> because America is ruled by the Jews.
>
> Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
> media and because the Jews were behind Communism. Here are some quotes
> from Mein Kampf:

<snip>

Thanks for the quotations.

I fail to see how an alleged racial preponderance to that purist form of
Capitalism, Banking, would lead naturally to that same race's
promulgation of Communist ideology.

That's a square peg which does not fit into that round hole.

M.

neptune3

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Fighting the enemy is the only thing that is not diverting
attention.


> It's laughable how you use the opinions of a known racist

by Thomas Jackson
There is surely no nation in the world that holds "racism" in greater
horror than does the United States. Compared to other kinds of
offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press
and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and
arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as
part of the inevitable texture of American life. "Racism" is never
shrugged off. For example, when a White Georgetown Law School student
reported earlier this year that black students are not as qualified as
White students, it set off a booming, national controversy about
"racism." If the student had merely murdered someone he would have
attracted far less attention and criticism.
Racism is, indeed, the national obsession. Universities are on full
alert for it, newspapers and politicians denounce it, churches preach
against it, America is said to be racked with it, but just what is
racism?
Dictionaries are not much help in understanding what is meant by the
word. They usually define it as the belief that one's own ethnic stock
is superior to others, or as the belief that culture and behavior are
rooted in race. When Americans speak of racism they mean a great deal
more than this. Nevertheless, the dictionary definition of racism is a
clue to understanding what Americans do mean. A peculiarly American
meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are
equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been
declared to be equally talented and hard- working, and anyone who
questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.
The dogma has logical consequences that are profoundly important. If
blacks, for example, are equal to Whites in every way, what accounts
for their poverty, criminality, and dissipation? Since any theory of
racial differences has been outlawed, the only possible explanation
for black failure is White racism. And since blacks are markedly poor,
crime-prone, and dissipated, America must be racked with pervasive
racism. Nothing else could be keeping them in such an abject state.
All public discourse on race today is locked into this rigid logic.
Any explanation for black failure that does not depend on White
wickedness threatens to veer off into the forbidden territory of
racial differences. Thus, even if today's Whites can find in their
hearts no desire to oppress blacks, yesterday's Whites must have
oppressed them. If Whites do not consciously oppress blacks, they must
oppress them Unconsciously. If no obviously racist individuals can be
identified, then societal institutions must be racist. Or, since
blacks are failing so terribly in America, there simply must be
millions of White people we do not know about, who are working day and
night to keep blacks in misery. The dogma of racial equality leaves no
room for an explanation of black failure that is not, in some fashion,
an indictment of White people.
The logical consequences of this are clear. Since we are required to
believe that the only explanation for non-White failure is White
racism, every time a non-White is poor, commits a crime, goes on
welfare, or takes drugs, White society stands accused of yet another
act of racism. All failure or misbehavior by non-Whites is standing
proof that White society is riddled with hatred and bigotry. For
precisely so long as non-Whites fail to succeed in life at exactly the
same level as Whites, Whites will be, by definition, thwarting and
oppressing them. This obligatory pattern of thinking leads to strange
conclusions. First of all, racism is a sin that is thought to be
committed almost exclusively by White people. Indeed, a black
congressman from Chicago, Gus Savage, and Coleman Young, the black
mayor of Detroit, have argued that only White people can be racist.
Likewise, in 1987, the affirmative action officer of the State
Insurance Fund of New York issued a company pamphlet in which she
explained that all Whites are racist and that only Whites can be
racist. How else could the plight of blacks be explained without
flirting with the possibility of racial inequality?
Although some blacks and liberal Whites concede that non-Whites can,
perhaps, be racist, they invariably add that non-Whites have been
forced into it as self-defense because of centuries of White
oppression. What appears to be non-White racism is so understandable
and forgivable that it hardly deserves the name. Thus, whether or not
an act is called racism depends on the race of the racist. What would
surely be called racism when done by Whites is thought to be normal
when done by anyone else. The reverse is also true.
Examples of this sort of double standard are so common, it is almost
tedious to list them: When a White man kills a black man and uses the
word "nigger" while doing so, there is an enormous media uproar and
the nation beats its collective breast; when members of the black
Yahweh cult carry out ritual murders of random Whites, the media are
silent (see AR of March, 1991). College campuses forbid pejorative
statements about non-Whites as "racist," but ignore scurrilous attacks
on Whites.
At election time, if 60 percent of the White voters vote for a White
candidate, and 95 percent of the black voters vote for the black
opponent, it is Whites who are accused of racial bias. There are 107
"historically black" colleges, whose fundamental blackness must be
preserved in the name of diversity, but all historically White
colleges must be forcibly integrated in the name of... the same thing.
To resist would be racist.
"Black pride" is said to be a wonderful and worthy thing, but anything
that could be construed as an expression of White pride is a form of
hatred. It is perfectly natural for third-world immigrants to expect
school instruction and driver's tests in their own languages, whereas
for native Americans to ask them to learn English is racist.
Blatant anti-White prejudice, in the form of affirmative action, is
now the law of the land. Anything remotely like affirmative action, if
practiced in favor of Whites, would be attacked as despicable
favoritism.
All across the country, black, Hispanic, and Asian clubs and caucuses
are thought to be fine expressions of ethnic solidarity, but any club
or association expressly for Whites is by definition racist. The
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)
campaigns openly for black advantage but is a respected "civil rights"
organization. The National Association for the Advancement of White
People (NAAWP) campaigns merely for equal treatment of all races, but
is said to be viciously racist.
At a few college campuses, students opposed to affirmative action have
set up student unions for Whites, analogous to those for blacks,
Hispanics, etc, and have been roundly condemned as racists. Recently,
when the White students at Lowell High School in San Francisco found
themselves to be a minority, they asked for a racially exclusive club
like the ones that non-Whites have. They were turned down in horror.
Indeed, in America today, any club not specifically formed to be a
White enclave but whose members simply happen all to be White is
branded as racist.
Today, one of the favorite slogans that define the asymmetric quality
of American racism is "celebration of diversity." It has begun to dawn
on a few people that "diversity" is always achieved at the expense of
Whites (and sometimes men), and never the other way around. No one
proposes that Howard University be made more diverse by admitting
Whites, Hispanics, or Asians. No one ever suggests that National
Hispanic University in San Jose (CA) would benefit from the diversity
of having non-Hispanics on campus. No one suggests that the Black
Congressional Caucus or the executive ranks of the NAACP or the
Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund suffer from a lack
of diversity. Somehow, it is perfectly legitimate for them to
celebrate homogeneity. And yet any all-White group - a company, a
town, a school, a club, a neighborhood - is thought to suffer from a
crippling lack of diversity that must be remedied as quickly as
possible. Only when Whites have been reduced to a minority has
"diversity" been achieved.
Let us put it bluntly: To "celebrate" or "embrace" diversity, as we
are so often asked to do, is no different from deploring an excess of
Whites. In fact, the entire nation is thought to suffer from an excess
of Whites. Our current immigration policies are structured so that
approximately 90 percent of our annual 800,000 legal immigrants are
non-White. The several million illegal immigrants that enter the
country every year are virtually all non-White. It would be racist not
to be grateful for this laudable contribution to "diversity." It is,
of course, only White nations that are called upon to practice this
kind of "diversity." It is almost criminal to imagine a nation of any
other race countenancing blatant dispossession of this kind.
What if the United States were pouring its poorest, least educated
citizens across the border into Mexico? Could anyone be fooled into
thinking that Mexico was being "culturally enriched?" What if the
state of Chihuahua were losing its majority population to poor Whites
who demanded that schools be taught in English, who insisted on
celebrating the Fourth of July, who demanded the right to vote even if
they weren't citizens, who clamored for "affirmative action" in jobs
and schooling?
Would Mexico - or any other non-White nation - tolerate this kind of
cultural and demographic depredation? Of course not. Yet White
Americans are supposed to look upon the flood of Hispanics and Asians
entering their country as a priceless cultural gift. They are supposed
to "celebrate" their own loss of influence, their own dwindling
numbers, their own dispossession, for to do otherwise would be
hopelessly racist.
There is another curious asymmetry about American racism. When non-
Whites advance their own racial purposes, no one ever accuses them of
"hating" another group. Blacks can join "civil rights" groups and
Hispanics can be activists without fear of being branded as bigots and
hate mongers. They can agitate openly for racial preferences that can
come only at the expense of whites. They can demand preferential
treatment of all kinds without anyone ever suggesting that they are
"anti-white."
Whites, on the other hand, need only express their opposition to
affirmative action to be called haters. They need only subject racial
policies that are clearly prejudicial to themselves to be called
racists. Should they actually go so far as to say that they prefer the
company of their own kind, that they wish to be left alone to enjoy
the fruits of their European heritage, they are irredeemably wicked
and hateful.
Here, then is the final, baffling inconsistency about American race
relations. All non-whites are allowed to prefer the company of their
own kind, to think of themselves as groups with interests distinct
from those of the whole, and to work openly for group advantage. None
of this is thought to be racist. At the same time, whites must also
champion the racial interests of non-whites. They must sacrifice their
own future on the altar of "diversity" and cooperate in their own
dispossession. They are to encourage, even to subsidize, the
displacement of a European people and culture by alien peoples and
cultures. To put it in the simplest possible terms, White people are
cheerfully to slaughter their own society, to commit racial and
cultural suicide. To refuse to do so would be racism.
Of course, the entire non-white enterprise in the United States is
perfectly natural and healthy. Nothing could be more natural than to
love one's people and to hope that it should flourish. Filipinos and
El Salvadorans are doubtless astonished to discover that simply by
setting foot in the United States they are entitled to affirmative
action preferences over native-born whites, but can they be blamed for
accepting them? Is it surprising that they should want their
languages, their cultures, their brothers and sisters to take
possession and put their mark indelibly on the land? If the once-great
people of a once-great nation is bent upon self-destruction and is
prepared to hand over land and power to whomever shows up and asks for
it, why should Mexicans and Cambodians complain?
No, it is the White enterprise in the United States that is unnatural,
unhealthy, and without historical precedent. Whites have let
themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to
dispossession, much less to work for their own interests. Never in the
history of the world has a dominant people thrown open the gates to
strangers, and poured out its wealth to aliens. Never before has a
people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in
surrendering its heritage, and giving away to others its place in
history. Of all the races in America, only whites have been tricked
into thinking that a preference for one's own kind is racism. Only
whites are ever told that a love for their own people is somehow
"hatred" of others. All healthy people prefer the company of their own
kind, and it has nothing to do with hatred. All men love their
families more than their neighbors, but this does not mean that they
hate their neighbors. Whites who love their racial family need bear no
ill will towards non-whites. They only wish to be left alone to
participate in the unfolding of their racial and cultural destinies.
What whites in America are being asked to do is therefore utterly
unnatural. They are being asked to devote themselves to the interests
of other races and to ignore the interests of their own. This is like
asking a man to forsake his own children and love the children of his
neighbors, since to do otherwise would be "racist."
What then, is "racism?" It is considerably more than any dictionary is
likely to say. It is any opposition by whites to official policies of
racial preference for non-whites. It is any preference by whites for
their own people and culture. It is any resistance by whites to the
idea of becoming a minority people. It is any unwillingness to be
pushed aside. It is, in short, any of the normal aspirations of
people-hood that have defined nations since the beginning of history -
but only so long as the aspirations are those of whites.


>(Duke) one of the most evil men of all time (Hitler)

"He was born into humble circumstances, the son of an obscure civil
servant in a remote corner of a crumbling empire, yet his name
resounds throughout the world to this day.

He was rejected by the universities of his time for formal enrollment
in art and in architecture, and yet he erected mighty buildings and
monuments, and today a simple postcard that he drew in ink or
charcoal fetches staggering sums at auction.

He never achieved more than a public school education, yet he wrote a
book which has outsold every other book in history except for the
Bible.

He fought as a front line soldier through all four years of the
greatest war in history up to that time, never rising above the rank
of corporal, but he won both of his country's highest decorations for
bravery under fire and rose to command the mightiest armies on earth.

Almost unique in the history of his century, he was not a lawyer or an
aristocrat or a man of inherited wealth and privilege, but a man who
once earned his daily bread with the labor of his hands, and yet he
conquered politics and rose to the leadership of the most brilliant
and creative nation on earth. So that his people might travel across
the land he loved quickly and cheaply, he created a simple and sturdy
automobile still in use today, and a network of highways that still
spans Germany. His game and forestry laws are still in force, and are
praised by ecologists as a model of environmental protection. His
economic program received the sincerest form of flattery from the
loathsome Roosevelt, who stole it and copied it into the context of
the American Depression as his own.

Every man who ever met him personally, even those who became his
bitterest enemies, spoke of him forever afterwards with awe and
admiration. His courtesy and his gallantry toward women were
legendary. With his power and his prestige he could have had any woman
he wanted, but the woman he chose as his life's partner, and who
eventually died by his side, was a simple and humble daughter of the
people.

He did not drink. He did not smoke. He was a lifelong lover of animals
and children and was happiest in the company of toddlers rather than
statesmen and soldiers, and no one ever overheard him use a profane
word or tell a smutty joke. He lifted his people up from the mud of
defeat and despair and alien domination, and he died trying to do the
same for all of us.

To this day, his memory is kept green by the Aryan peoples of Germany
and the world, even though it means prison, and in some countries
death, to honor him or his legacy within the sight or hearing of the
tyrant. He has been slandered, vilified, lied about, cursed,
distorted, and damned every day since his death by the most powerful
and evil tyranny mankind has ever known, and yet his name and his
Symbol cannot be suppressed by force or by propaganda. As we begin
this new Millennium, his book is read and his name is on more lips
than ever before and his image and his strength fills the hearts of a
whole new generation of young Aryan men and women."

******************************************************************************

"When your mother has grown older,
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks -

Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.

And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.

And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more."

Those lines were written by Adolf Hitler, in 1923."

*******************************************************************

In the Thicket of the Forest at Artois

"It was in the thicket of the Artois Wood.
Deep in the trees, on blood-soaked ground,
Lay stretched a wounded German warrior,
And his cries rang out in the night.
In vain ... no echo answered his plea ...
Will he bleed to death like a beast,
That shot in the gut dies alone?

Then suddenly ...
Heavy steps approach from the right
He hears how they stamp on the forest floor ...
And new hope springs from his soul.
And now from the left ...
And now from both sides ...

Two men approach his miserable bed
A German it is, and a Frenchman.
And each watches the other with distrustful glance,
And threatening they aim their weapons.
The German warrior asks:
"What do you do here?"
"I was touched by the needy one's call for help."

"It's your enemy!"
"It is a man who suffers."

And both, wordless, lowered their weapons.
Then entwined their hands
And, with muscles tensed, carefully lifted
The wounded warrior, as if on a stretcher,
And carried him through the woods.

'Til they came to the German outposts.
"Now it is over. He will get good care."
And the Frenchman turns back toward the woods.
But the German grasps for his hand,
Looks, moved, into sorrow-dimmed eyes
And says to him with earnest foreboding:

"I know not what fate holds for us,
Which inscrutably rules in the stars.
Perhaps I shall fall, a victim of your bullet.
Maybe mine will fell you on the sand
For indifferent is the chance of battles.

Yet, however it may be and whatever may come:
We lived these sacred hours,
Where man found himself in man ...
And now, farewell! And God be with you!"

Adolf Hitler, 1916


>and keep referring to a
>text that's been a known hoax for fifty years to back up your argument. Look in
>the mirror and you'll see where the real problem is.
>

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
lie.


There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":

"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential pruduction executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."

"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."

The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:

"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."

Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.

"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"

"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."

"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."

"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."

"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."

"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."

"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."

"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."

"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."

"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."

" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."

"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."

"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."

"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."

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>
>Thanks for the quotations.
>
>I fail to see how an alleged racial preponderance to that purist form of
>Capitalism, Banking, would lead naturally to that same race's
>promulgation of Communist ideology.
>
>That's a square peg which does not fit into that round hole.
>

They knew that a revolt against capitalism was unstoppable. They
had the power and the money. They could become the leaders of this
revolt and channel in dirrections more to their liking.

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"the Jew seized upon the manifold possiblities which the
situation offered him for the future. While on the one hand he
organized capitalistic methods of exploitation to their ultimate
degree of efficiency, he curried favour with the victims of his policy
and his power and in a short while became the leader of their struggle
against himself. 'Against himself' is here only a figurative way of
speaking; for this 'Great Master of Lies' knows how to appear in the
guise of the innocent and throw the guilt on others. Since he had the
impudence to take a personal lead among the masses, they never for a
moment suspected that they were falling prey to one of the most
infamous deceits ever practiced. And yet that is what it actually
was."


ITEM: In 1922 the Soviets formed their first international bank, It
was
not owned and run by the State as would be dictated by Communist
theory,
but was put together by a syndicate of private bankers for profit.
These
included, not only former Tsarist bankers, but representatives of
German,
Swedish, and American banks. Most of the foreign capital came from
England.
The man appointed as Director of the Foreign Division of the new bank
was
Max May, Vice President of Morgan's Guaranty Trust Company in New
York.

neptune3

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Mike Wilcox

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neptune3 wrote:
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:27:55 -0400, Mike Wilcox
<appra...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>
>Thank you for proving the point of how a propagandist uses the universal enemy
>to divert attention.

   Fighting the enemy is the only thing that is not diverting
attention.

> It's laughable how you use the opinions of a known racist
 
 

snippage

Do you know why all these affirmative action programs were brought in? To keep blacks from being spit on, dragged behind half tons and lynched because you lot think they are an inferior race and enjoy blaming them and the Jews for your own inferiority and self loathing.
 
 

--
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Mike Wilcox

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neptune3 wrote:

You're in need of a history lesson, the Jews were not allowed to participate
in most forms of business by law in many countries. managing money were one
of the few they were allowed to do. the predates hitler by hundreds of years.

--
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EricŽ

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neptune3 wrote...

> Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
> on December 10, 1940:
>
> "In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
> means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
> possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
> wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
> themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
> convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else.
[snip]

Good post (if unintentionally).

Thanks for one of the major tenets of Fascism. 'Convictions' don't
arise in the individual - they come from somewhere else. Space aliens
perhaps.

Hitler was wrong - now you are wrong.
___________________________________________________________________
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Nothing is more revolting than the majority; for it consists
of few vigorous predecessors, of knaves who accommodate themselves,
of weak people who assimilate themselves, and the mass that toddles
after them without knowing in the least what it wants.
- J.W. von Goethe

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"EricŽ" <haff...@canuckistan.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ade5c287...@news.telus.net...

> neptune3 wrote...
> > Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
> > on December 10, 1940:
> >
> > "In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
> > means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
> > possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
> > wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
> > themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
> > convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else.
> [snip]
>
> Good post (if unintentionally).
>
> Thanks for one of the major tenets of Fascism. 'Convictions' don't
> arise in the individual - they come from somewhere else. Space aliens
> perhaps.

Today, in the West, they come from Jewish-controlled schools, colleges,
media and gov't.

Hitler was merely a response to the Judeo-Marxist attempt at world conquest.
The British, in a vain attempt to save their empire, allied themselves
(dragging along big brother USA) with this Jewish scourge. A new Dark Age
will be the ultimate result. But then, Judeo-Christianity caused the last
one.


GP


neptune3

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>Do you know why all these affirmative action programs were brought in? To keep
>blacks from being spit on, dragged behind half tons and lynched because you lot
>think they are an inferior race and enjoy blaming them and the Jews for your own
>inferiority and self loathing.
>

"A month ago I told you about the murder of two White girls, Tracy
Lambert and Susan Moore, in Fayetteville, North Carolina, as part of
the initiation of new members into the Black and Hispanic Crips gang.
I'm still receiving comments about that program. Apparently many
listeners -- especially those with Internet access -- checked out the
facts as reported in the Fayetteville newspaper, and they were
shocked
that, just as I said, there was no media coverage of these terrible
murders outside the Fayetteville area. They were shocked that
virtually all of the mainstream media around the country would
deliberately hide the news of these racially motivated murders from
the White public -- and these were the same media which had made such
a sensation about the killing of a convicted Black drug dealer and
his
girlfriend in Fayetteville by a White soldier, James Burmeister, in
December 1995.

But really, no one who has been listening to my broadcasts should
have
been shocked. I have commented over and over again about the virtual
control of all of America's mass media by the Jews, and I have
pointed
out many times that the Jews' policy is to disarm the White
population
morally as well as physically by deliberately creating the false
impression that Whites are oppressors and victimizers, and non-Whites
are our innocent victims. They want us to feel guilty. They want us
to
feel that it would be immoral for us to resist any of their schemes
for more non-White immigration, for more so-called "diversity" and
That is what the Jewish media bosses are deliberately pushing: the
destruction of our people through racial mixing, and they don't want
us to put up any resistance. And I am sorry to say, their program is
succeeding. When they send their step'n'fetchit Bill Clinton around
the country making speeches about how much he is looking forward to
an
America with a non-White majority, about how any resistance to the
government's programs for the darkening of America would be
un-American, he is applauded by brainwashed young Whites who have
been
deceived by this deliberately falsified media impression of Whites as
oppressors.

Now you know, I am making a pretty serious accusation. I am accusing
the Jewish population as a whole -- and the Jewish media bosses in
particular -- of planning our annihilation as a race, of planning to
commit genocide against us. And I don't want anyone to think that I
am
basing my accusation on only the few instances of racially motivated
killings I already have cited: their suppression of the news of the
Fayetteville murders of two White girls by the Crips and their
sensationalizing of the news of the Fayetteville shooting of a Black
drug dealer and his girlfriend by a White soldier and of the dragging
death of another convicted Black criminal in Teaxas by three Whites.
Jewish media have deliberately covered up. The details aren't
pleasant
-- in fact, they are shocking -- but I believe that many listeners
need to be shocked.

Let's begin with another crime which occurred in Fayetteville. This
is
timely because the trial of the criminals began just last week.
Here's
what happened: Donald Lange, a 25-year-old White soldier at Fort Bragg
accidentally bumped into a group of seven Black soldiers who were
going in. The Blacks began punching Lange while shouting racial
insults at him. They dragged him into the adjacent parking lot and
stomped and kicked him while continuing to shout racial epithets.

A witness in the trial of the Blacks, Tracye Cochran, was in the
parking lot where the assault took place. She told the court last
week, -- quote -- "The Black person who threw the first punch was
the
one who knocked him down. . . . It dropped him down to his knees. He
got back up and got hit again. . . . I was walking toward the fight
screaming and hollering for them to leave him alone. . . . By then he
was just getting hit by people left and right." Another witness, Gina
Perez, testified that she saw eight or ten Blacks kicking and
stomping
Lange as he lay on the pavement. She told of seeing one Black kicking
Lange in the face, causing his head to slam into the pavement and
bounce back. The Black would then kick him again, over and over.
Perez
said, "They just kicked him to death. I remember him being on his
side, being kicked over and over again."

an example of why we must do something about "race hate." But
Mr. Clinton has responded to the stomping of Donald Lange with
silence.

If Donald Lange had been Black and his attackers White, the media
bosses would have had Janet Reno on television announcing that she
was
sending in the FBI. The media would have been interviewing every
professional hate merchant: the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, Morris Dees and his Southern
Poverty Law Center, and all the rest. The media would have made a
real
circus of it, and the whole world would have had it drummed into
their
consciousness: another hate crime against a poor, innocent Black by
White racists in Fayetteville.

In order to convince the media bosses that he was doing something to
"end hate" after the Burmeister shooting of the Black drug dealer,
the
commanding general of Fort Bragg ordered a witch hunt among the White
soldiers on the base. Every White soldier was checked for tattoos
that
might suggest a skinhead affiliation. As the media frenzy continued,
the witch hunt for White racists in the Army eventually spread to
other bases. Now, don't hold your breath waiting for the general at
beliefs and their gang affiliations because of what Blacks from the
there, and the general has better things to do with his time.

Last month a Black mob in Alton, Illinois, which is a suburb of St.
into their neighborhood looking for his stolen television set. As they
were beating and kicking 48-year-old Richard Skelton to death on
August 10, the Blacks hooted, laughed, and shouted racial insults,
according to a number of eye-witnesses.

Now, it's possible that you may have read a few words about this
racially motivated murder -- if you're a careful reader of the small
news items in the back pages of your newspaper. But you certainly
didn't see anything about it on television or read any detailed news
accounts, unless you live in the immediate vicinity of Alton. Even
the
news accounts in Alton tried to excuse the Black murderers by
suggesting that Skelton may have precipitated the attack on himself
by
using racially insensitive language in asking about his stolen
beating the unarmed White man. Black bystanders watched and shouted
encouragement to the attackers. Others joined in the attack, and soon
as many as 25 Blacks were beating and kicking Skelton. They continued
kicking him until he was dead.

Again, imagine the response of the controlled mass media if the races
of the victim and the killers had been reversed: a Black wanders into
a White neighborhood and is beaten to death by a mob of 25 Whites who
laugh and shout racial insults as the Black dies. My god, the media
would be apoplectic! They would be calling for martial law and a
roundup of all heterosexual White males who weren't registered
over and over and over again, along with sermons against White
racism.
But as it is, most of my listeners are now hearing about last month's
racially motivated mob murder of Richard Skelton for the first time.

Here's another one that you may have read a few words about if you're
a news hound or if you live in eastern New York state. Earlier this
month in Poughkeepsie, New York, a town on the Hudson River about 70
miles north of New York City, police discovered the decomposing
corpses of seven White women and one Black woman in the house of
Kendall Francois. The women had been murdered over a two-year period,
with the latest being killed just a month ago. Francois is a
27-year-old Black man who works as a hall monitor in a nearby high
school. Affirmative action got him the school job even though he had
a
previous arrest record. Francois was living with his mother and
father
and younger sister -- and eight decaying corpses. Police found the
dead women lying on beds and in the midst of piles of rotting garbage
in various rooms of his house. Francois's parents and his sister, who
is employed as a nurse at a nearby hospital, said that they hadn't
was the odor of the garbage which had been allowed to accumulate in
the house. Francois had picked up the women, one at a time, taken
them
to his house, had sex with them, and then strangled them.

Now, in a sense the murders of these women may not have been race
crimes. The women were all prostitutes, and aside from the fact that
Francois had a preference for killing White prostitutes, we don't
really know what his motive was for killing them...

The real racial angle to these killings is the media response -- or
lack thereof. Do you remember John Wayne Gacy or Jeffrey Dahmer? I'm
sure you do, even though Gacy was arrested 20 years ago and Dahmer
more than seven years ago. Both of them also were serial killers who
stashed the bodies of their victims in or under their houses. Both
received enormous publicity when police caught them -- so much that
we
still remember them many years later. But they were both White...


Earlier this month a court in Colorado convicted Francisco Martinez
of
participating in the abduction, gang rape, torture, and murder of a
14-year-old White girl, Brandy Duvall. Martinez and six other members
of the Black and Hispanic Bloods gang grabbed Brandy from a bus stop
girl to the house of one of the gang members and spent several hours
raping her and then sexually torturing her with a knife and a
broomstick. During the trial one of the gang members told the court
how Martinez laughed as he repeatedly rammed a broomstick into the
body of the bleeding girl while she screamed and pleaded for her
life.
Later they stabbed the 14-year-old girl 28 times and dumped her body
in a ditch. Then they went home and disposed of the bloody mattress
on
which she had been raped and tortured.

Four of the Bloods gang members have pleaded guilty, one other
besides
Martinez has been tried and convicted, and one is still awaiting
trial. This case is reminiscent of the Fayetteville murders last
month
of two White girls by members of the Crips. The Crips and the Bloods
are the two largest non-White gangs in the United States. Like the
Fayetteville murders, Brandy Duvall's murder and the subsequent
trials
have received virtually no national news coverage, although
Denver-area newspapers did report them.

Once again, imagine the reaction of the television networks and all
of
the other national media if instead of the Bloods raping, sexually
torturing, and murdering a 14-year-old White girl, seven Ku Klux Klan
members had done that to a Black girl or a Mexican girl. The gruesome
details would be on every television screen in America night after
night after night, and there would be no end to the parade of
politicians and preachers and professional hate merchants telling us
about the evils of White racism. We know that's what would happen,
recently in the dragging death of the Black convict in Jasper, Texas,
this summer.

Now, all of the Black-on-White crimes I've just mentioned -- the
became a mindless vegetable; the kicking of Richard Skelton to death
by a Black mob in Alton, Illinois, when he tried to retrieve his
stolen television set; the murder of seven White prostitutes by a
torture, and murder of 14-year-old Brandy Duvall by members of the
Bloods gang in the Denver area after they had snatched her from a bus
stop -- all of these either occurred during the past month or came to
trial during the past month. And I could have given you twenty more
recent examples of horrible race crimes committed by non-Whites
against Whites which have received the silent treatment by the media,
except in the areas where they occurred. And these are all crimes
which would have received extensive national publicity if they had
been White-on-Black crimes.

Anyway, I hope that I've made my point. And my point is that the
controlled media are far more likely to publicize White-on-Black
crimes than Black-on-White crimes. And this is not just a fluke. It's
not that I have carefully selected a few Black-on-White crimes which
somehow escaped the attention of the media. No, their way of dealing
with interracial crime is systematic. It is consistent. We all
understand that. If the Ku Klux Klan does something, the Jewish media
act as if the sky is falling. If the Bloods or the Crips do
something,
they ignore it. There is no denying that. We know it's true.

So why do they do it? If I ask a non-Jewish newspaper writer or
television reporter or magazine editor: "Why do you and your
colleagues minimize the news of Black-on-White crime? Why are you
protective of non-White organizations such as the Bloods and the
Crips? Don't you believe that you have a responsibility to warn the
White public about the dangers posed for us by non-White crime in
general and by non-White gangs such as the Bloods and the Crips in
particular?

"And why do your colleagues maximize the news of any White-on-Black
crime? Why do you go ballistic if there's any possibility of a White
organizational connection, even if some racially oriented literature
is found in the White offender's possession? Don't you understand
that
the Bloods and the Crips are essentially anti-White criminal
organizations, while the Klan can only be accused of having members
who sometimes do stupid things? Why do you deliberately create the
false impression in the public mind that White-on-Black crime --
that's what you call "hate crime" -- is a big problem in our society,
and at the same time you hide from the public the truly horrendous
and
dangerous problem of Black-on-White crime? Why do you do it?"

I've never gotten really clear and honest answers to these questions.
But what is clear is that they all know how they're expected to
report
the news. They know what the party line is. They know which side
their
bread is buttered on. It's clear that the top media bosses have set
the fashion for reporting interracial crime, and no one who works for
them is willing to depart from the fashion.

That fashion, which is almost never stated explicitly, which is only
implied, is this: White people are evil -- especially heterosexual
White males. They have persecuted non-Whites for hundreds of years.
White people really shouldn't complain if non-Whites sometimes strike
back at them. That's only justice. When Blacks and Mexicans organize
in gangs, it's only to protect themselves from Whites. But when
Whites
organize, it's to oppress non-Whites. Whites need to be reminded that
they are oppressors. That's why White crimes against non-Whites
should
be emphasized. And if we're to have a happy and prosperous
multicultural society with lots of diversity, which is of course a
wonderful thing, then Whites need to mix more with non-Whites . . .
so
we shouldn't give them any news which might make them reluctant to
mix. We shouldn't tell them about Black crimes against Whites,
because
that might frighten White women away from Black men. It might even
lead Whites to organize against non-Whites. In the long run the only
sure way to have a peaceful society, in which everyone gets along
with
everyone else, is to get rid of the White majority: to replace the
present White majority with a non-White majority. A lot of racial
mixing and racial intermarriage will help to achieve that, and we
should report the news with that aim in mind.

That is the prevailing fashion in the controlled mass media today,
whether the media people will admit it or not. That fashion has been
set deliberately by the media bosses. And I, curious and inquisitive
person that I am, have looked at where that fashion is taking us, and
when I have done that I have looked into the face of death: racial
death, racial extinction. And I, hardheaded cynic that I am, have
decided that the Jewish media bosses who designed the current fashion
in reporting the news have in fact designed it with that aim in mind.
And I also have decided that it is our responsibility to ourselves,
to
our posterity, to our ancestors, and to the God of Nature which made
us what we are to use any and all means -- any and all means -- to
combat these Jewish media bosses and their collaborators in the
government, in the schools, in the churches, and wherever else we
find
them."
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>
>You're in need of a history lesson, the Jews were not allowed to participate
>in most forms of business by law in many countries. managing money were one
>of the few they were allowed to do. the predates hitler by hundreds of years.
>
>

http://www.solarcross.com/behindcom.htm
Expelled
The Fourth Lateran Council restricted Jewish commercial advantage but
it did not end the Jewish problem. Beginning in the latter part of the
13th century, one European country after another expelled its Jewish
population as the only final solution to the problem. First to take
the step was England which banned them in 1290. Fifteen years later in
1306 the French followed suit. In steady succession the various states
of Europe emulated this example with Spain being one of the last to
enforce the ban in 1492. The situation in Spain is worth noting. Says
Encyclopedia Britannica: [page 57, vol. 13 - 1947]: "... The 14th
century was the golden age of their history in Spain. In 1391 the
preaching of a priest of Seville, Fernando Martinez, led to the first
general massacre of the Jews who were envied for their prosperity and
hated because they were the king's tax collectors." Ferdinand and
Isabella, after uniting Spain and driving out the Moors turned their
attention to the Jewish problem, with the result that they were
evicted completely in 1492. In 1498 Portugal evicted its Jewish
population also.
The Exploiters
A great deal has been said about the "persecution" of the Jews in
Europe and elsewhere, and they have pretty well convinced the world
(or at least Americans) that these hardships were inflicted on an
innocent people. But these rich Spanish Jews we see being evicted in
1492 were not down-trodden folk. They were the wealthy, the
privileged, the exploiters: they were the well-fed merchants and the
gouging tax collectors ...
So it was in Portugal; in that country we find that the deportation of
the Jews ... "deprived Portugal of its middle class and its most
scientific traders and financiers." [Encyclopedia Britannica, page
279, vol. 18 - 1947.] Undeniably this class of traders and financiers
was put to hardship by this banishment, but it does not follow that
they were victims of discrimination in the accepted sense, nor were
they underprivileged in any way. Rather we see a wealthy merchant
group being ousted from its seat of vested privilege by a thoroughly
outraged, and a thoroughly exploited Christian society ...
The situation in England was similar. The Jews had come to England in
the wake of the Norman conquest and had quickly gained a position of
wealth and prosperity. Says Valentine's Jewish Encyclopedia of this
period: "Their numbers and prosperity increased, Aaron of Lincoln
being the wealthiest man in England in his time ... his financial
transactions covering the whole country and concerning many of the
leading nobles and churchmen ... On his death his property passed to
the crown and a special branch of the exchequer had to be created to
deal with it."
England
England, ironically enough, was the last country to be invaded by the
Jews and the first to evict them. After the Fourth Lateran Council the
Jews had become increasingly difficult to deal with and there were a
number of anti-Jewish riots. Perplexed by the problem posed by this
alien minority which seemed well on its way to corralling the
kingdom's wealth, and failing in an attempt to force its assimilation.
Edward I confiscated all Jewish wealth and evicted them permanently in
1290. Not until 1655 was a Jew legally permitted to re-enter England.
Britain thus established the precedent for the later eviction which
soon followed on the continent.
France
In France too the Jews were dominant in trade and finance and had been
since before Charlemagne's time. Under Philip the Fair (1285-1314) one
of the last, and certainly one of the greatest of the Capetian line,
France had become the greatest power in Europe. It was Philip's need
for money which led him to seize Jewish wealth and drive them from the
country. He had already before 1306 taken desperate measures to raise
money, which was in short supply, by forbidding the export of gold and
silver from France. The same need for money brought him into conflict
with the Templars, whose wealth he also seized. But it was the Jews
who controlled the greatest supply of floating wealth. In 1306 Philip
solved his financial problem-and France's Jewish problem-by
expropriating their wealth and evicting them. Thus ended the
centuries-long commercial dominance of the Jew in France. Later a few
were permitted to return and these were in turn ejected in 1394.
RETURN TO THE EAST
The Evictions
Space does not permit a detailed discussion of the other evictions
which followed and which resulted in the banishment of the Jews from
virtually every country in Western Europe in the succeeding centuries
but here in chronological order is a list of the evictions:
ENGLAND: Jews expelled in 1290 by Edward I. Not permitted to re-enter
till 1655.
FRANCE: Expelled in 1306 by Philip the Fair. A few were permitted to
return but were again evicted in 1394. Jewish settlements remained in
Bordeaux, Avignon, Marseilles, (from where they were evicted in 1682)
and in the northern province of Alsace.
SAXONY: Expelled in 1349.
HUNGARY: By 1092 the Jews were in control of Hungary's tax
collections. In 1360 they were expelled but later returned. In 1582
they were again expelled from the Christian part of Hungary.
BELGIUM: Expelled in 1370. A few settled there again in 1450, but no
large numbers came till 1700.
SLOVAKIA: Ousted from Prague in 1380. Many settled there again after
1562. In 1744 Marie Theresa expelled them again.
AUSTRIA: Expelled in 1420 by Albrecht V.
NETHERLANDS: Expelled from Utrecht in 1444.
SPAIN: Expelled in 1492.
LITHUANIA: Expelled in 1495 by Grand Duke Alexander. They later
returned.
PORTUGAL: Expelled in 1498.
PRUSSIA: Expelled in 1510.
ITALY: Expelled from Kingdom of Naples and Sardinia in 1540.
BAVARIA: Banned permanently in 1551.
Jews were not permitted to enter Sweden until 1782. None were
permitted to enter Denmark before the 17th century and they were not
allowed in Norway after 1814. Today only a handful reside in all
Scandinavia.
Back to Poland
By 1500 all of Western Europe except northern Italy, parts of Germany,
and the Papal possessions around Avignon, had been rid of the Jewish
invasion. For a while, at least, Europe was free of the Jews; not
until 1650 did they return in any numbers. Says Encyclopedia
Britannica: [page 57-58, vol. 13 - 1947.] "The great mass of the
Jewish people were thus to be found once more in the East, in the
Polish and Turkish empires . . The few communities suffered to remain
in western Europe were meanwhile subjected at last to all the
restrictions which earlier ages had usually allowed to remain as an
ideal; so that in a sense, the Jewish dark ages may be said to begin
with the Renaissance."
THE RENAISSANCE
As the Jew Departed ...
The period marked by the evictions-1300 to 1650-also marks the period
of the Renaissance which broke over Europe as the Jews departed.
Starting at first in the trading cities of northern Italy in about
1300, there began a great rebirth of culture and learning which at
first was based almost entirely on the writings of the ancient Greeks
and Romans. Very quickly this renascent culture spread over Europe and
when the age had ended, in about 1650, Europe was by comparison with
her former status, enlightened and civilized. Quite obviously all this
could not have taken place had it not been for a great upsurge of
commercial activity which occurred simultaneously with, and as an
adjunct of, the Renaissance. Not until the nations of Europe had
wrested commercial control from the ghetto did this rebirth of western
civilization occur.

neptune3

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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 01:43:18 GMT, EricŽ <haff...@canuckistan.ca>
wrote:

>Thanks for one of the major tenets of Fascism. 'Convictions' don't
>arise in the individual - they come from somewhere else. Space aliens
>perhaps.
>
>Hitler was wrong - now you are wrong.
>

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a

lie. Your convictions also came to you from Hollywood. Here is an
example:

Many people think they arrive at their own ideas all by themselves,
when in fact their ideas are usually made for them by Hollywood. Take
two movies that are anti-leadership propaganda, Gladiator, and
Braveheart.

In Gladiator they show a corrupt leader of Rome, but would it be
corrupt if Maximus was the leader? That would be much better than
having the lame senators running Rome. And of course in Braveheart the
Scots should have make William their leader.

The purpose of the propaganda is to stop good people from wanting
power. The people who have the real power now, the bankers and the
media, are not threatened in the least by libertarians. But if there
was a leader that was really for the people they know they would be
put in their place.

Michael O'Neill

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Apr 9, 2004, 5:38:24 AM4/9/04
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neptune3 wrote:

[snip one side of the story]

Yep.

Black criminals.

Are you implying these things don't also happen to blacks?

Odd that given the fact we are all human and share all the genome with
each other, there are a lot more blacks banged up on Death Row than
whites?

Are they just slower runners?

*mheh*

No whitey, I suspect they are being fitted up. Certainly their defense
conusels don't seem up to much. 60% of their cases are probably mistrials
and they're the ones on Death Row, the ones that get the spotlight turned
on by pinko lefties to see what The Man has done to them.

What about all the other cases?

The really sad fact is that the black American has a rich heritage of
culture and tradition to draw on and most have turned away from all that
to the WHite Man's values;-

Property.
Money.
Power.
Cadillacs.
SUV's.
Drugs.
Alcohol.

The role models in the Ghettos are drug dealers and gangsta rappahs, ho's
and playah's.

Affirmative action isn't the way forward. Something's got to change at
grass roots level.

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Apr 9, 2004, 5:48:46 AM4/9/04
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neptune3 wrote:

[universal enemy cant]

Funny, isn't it, how I invoke the myth and you provide the propaganda
texts?

Your ready responses reveal far more than even I had intended with my
original post.

People who normally read my posts may wonder why I am not making my usual
responses which often add fuel to the fire.

The answer's simple and twofold:

I don't have to.

"Wind him up and watch him go!"

And:

"Listening, one receives an education."

Given the content of your posts so far, I'd say that even the hardened
readers of this NG have had an education they wish they hadn't received.

Because posts like yours are like cockroaches.

You see one. There's 300 more somewhere.

Your posts have saved me doing a lot of research.

Thanks.

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Apr 9, 2004, 6:58:08 AM4/9/04
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Mike Wilcox wrote:

<snip>

> The logical mind would ask, "who are these people, what's their goal and how did
> they get past our defences in the first place". But what does the government do?
> They trot out the old
> "these people hate us because we have freedom", brand anyone who asks questions
> as traitors or unpatriotic. On top of that they then refuse to even appoint a
> commission on the tradgedy until public pressure forces them to. I think you
> should
> be aware of that ;~)

And this:

From: http://dubyaspeak.com/freshdubya.shtml

====================================================

"We're still being challenged in Iraq and the reason why is a free Iraq
will be a major defeat in the cause of freedom."

-- Unwittingly putting a negative spin on something that was meant to
show resolve, Charlotte, North Carolina, Apr. 5, 2004

====================================================

I don'tagree with the webmaster in this case. I think Dubya was being as
brutally honest as only he can be.

A free Iraq would definitely be a major defeat in the cause of American
Freedom - Iraq might price its oil in Euros again, as it did when Saddam
was still in power in November 2000 and THEN where would the dollar go?

Would America have to invade again?

Oh, but America won't have to.

The American bases are permanent.

"Quelle surprise!"

M.

Flame of the West

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Apr 9, 2004, 1:11:02 PM4/9/04
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Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<407681C0...@indigo.ie>...

> I don'tagree with the webmaster in this case. I think Dubya was being as
> brutally honest as only he can be.
>
> A free Iraq would definitely be a major defeat in the cause of American
> Freedom - Iraq might price its oil in Euros again, as it did when Saddam
> was still in power in November 2000 and THEN where would the dollar go?

As the months go by, you get more and more panaroid and become willing
to believe more and more outrageous things.



> Would America have to invade again?
>
> Oh, but America won't have to.
>
> The American bases are permanent.

Only if the sovereign Iraqi government wants them. When we are asked to
leave (such as in the Philippines), we do, even when we think the request
unwise.

Besides, how does a few bases stop the Iraqis from doing something we
don't like? Are we going to march out and overthrow the elected
government if it goes with the Euro? Having American bases hasn't
stopped the Germans from doing what they want.

Try to get a grip on your anti-American hysteria. And if you reply to
this, please keep it G-rated. There's no need for insults or profanity.


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.

Flame of the West

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Apr 9, 2004, 4:59:42 PM4/9/04
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Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:

> Given the content of your posts so far, I'd say that even the hardened
> readers of this NG have had an education they wish they hadn't received.
>
> Because posts like yours are like cockroaches.
>
> You see one. There's 300 more somewhere.

The dangers of crossposting I guess. Apparently AFT is a relatively tame
place compared to some of the Usenet sewers.

neptune3

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Apr 9, 2004, 6:51:11 PM4/9/04
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:38:24 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>
>[snip one side of the story]
>
>Yep.
>
>Black criminals.
>
>Are you implying these things don't also happen to blacks?
>
>Odd that given the fact we are all human and share all the genome with
>each other, there are a lot more blacks banged up on Death Row than
>whites?

>
>Are they just slower runners?


The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:

"One of the most powerful direct studies of race and environment
was conducted by psychologists Sandra Scarr, Richard Weinberg and I.
D. Waldman. All three were quite well-known for their environmental
opinions. The study analyzed White, Black, and Mixed-race adopted
children in more than 100 White families in Minnesota. The study was
an egalitarian's dream, because the children's adoptive parents had
prestigious levels of income and education and were anti-racist enough
to adopt a Black child into their own family. Scarr is a strong
defender of racial equality and maintained that environment played an
almost exclusive role in IQ differences between the races. Scarr
supports the importance of heredity in causing individual differences
within a race, but she has argued that between-race differences are
mostly environmental.

The children in the study included Whites, Blacks, and Mulattos as
well as the biological children of the White adoptive couples. At the
age of 7, the children were tested for IQ, and all of the groups
including the Blacks and Mulattos, scored above average in IQ. Scarr
and Weinberg published a paper claiming to have proven the almost
exclusive power of environment over race in IQ, even though they had
to admit that the White children, whether adopted or not, scored well
above the Black and Mulatto children and that the Mulatto children
scored above the Blacks. (88)

A decade later, when the children reached the age of 17, a
follow-up study was conducted that that again included IQ
measurements. As they matured, Black children had dropped back to an
average of 89 in IQ, which is the average IQ for Blacks in the region
of the United States where the study was done. The White adopted
children scored an average of 106 in IQ, 17 points higher than the
Black children, which is consistant with traditional studies of Black
and White IQ differences. In line with genetic theory the half-White,
half-Black Mulatto adopted children scored almost exactly between the
adopted Whites and Blacks. (89)

RESULTS OF MINNESOTA TRANSRACIAL ADOPTION STUDY

IQ

Parental IQ 115.35
Biological Children 109.4
White Adopted children 105.6
Mulatto parents adopted children 98.5
Black parents adopted children 89.4

Scarr and Wienberg reluctantly published their data from the
follow up survey, but they waited close to four years to do so, almost
as if they were embarrassed by what they had found. Through a tortured
reasoning process, they still argued that environment played a
dominant role in IQ. But in their follow-up survey, unlike their first
paper, they also admitted that genes had an important impact as well.
Both Richard Lynn and Michael Levin effectively showed in their
re-analysis of Scarr's own data, that genes clearly comprise the
dominant role in intelligence levels of those adopted children. (90)
(91)"

(88) Scarr, S, & Weinberg R. A. (1976). IQ Test Perfomance of Black
Children Adopted By White Families. American Psychologist. Vol. 31.
p.26-739

(89) Weinberg, R. A. , Scarr, S., & Waldman, I. D. (1992). The
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study. A Follow-Up of IQ Test
Performance at Adolescence, Intelligence. Vol 16.
p.17-135

(90) Lynn, R. (1994). Reinterpretations Of The Minnesota Transracial
Adoption Study. Intelligence. Vol. 19. p.1-27

(91) Levin, M. (1994). Comment on The Minnesota Transracial Adoption
Study. Intelligence Vol. 19. p.3-20


>
>*mheh*
>
>No whitey, I suspect they are being fitted up. Certainly their defense
>conusels don't seem up to much. 60% of their cases are probably mistrials
>and they're the ones on Death Row, the ones that get the spotlight turned
>on by pinko lefties to see what The Man has done to them.
>
>What about all the other cases?
>
>The really sad fact is that the black American has a rich heritage of
>culture and tradition to draw on and most have turned away from all that
>to the WHite Man's values;-
>
>Property.
>Money.
>Power.
>Cadillacs.
>SUV's.
>Drugs.
>Alcohol.
>
>The role models in the Ghettos are drug dealers and gangsta rappahs, ho's
>and playah's.
>
>Affirmative action isn't the way forward. Something's got to change at
>grass roots level.
>

You say you blame things on us Whites. Then try to get your own
nation and stop mixing with White people.

neptune3

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:58:08 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:


>"We're still being challenged in Iraq and the reason why is a free Iraq
>will be a major defeat in the cause of freedom."
>
> -- Unwittingly putting a negative spin on something that was meant to
>show resolve, Charlotte, North Carolina, Apr. 5, 2004
>
>====================================================
>
>I don'tagree with the webmaster in this case. I think Dubya was being as
>brutally honest as only he can be.
>
>A free Iraq would definitely be a major defeat in the cause of American
>Freedom - Iraq might price its oil in Euros again, as it did when Saddam
>was still in power in November 2000 and THEN where would the dollar go?
>
>Would America have to invade again?
>
>Oh, but America won't have to.
>
>The American bases are permanent
>

>"Quelle surprise!"
>
Saddam wanted to sell oil at very reasonable prices. Even if "we"
stole all their oil, only the oil companies and other rich people
would benefit. The real reason America invaded Iraq is because
America's rulers, the Jews, wanted it.

Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce

"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East
recently, just because so much is happening there, and undoubtedly
we'll
be talking about it much more in the future. For that reason I want to
make very clear what my motives and sympathies are, lest I lead anyone
astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing so.

First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie with
the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at what
the
Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What motivates
me
is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in their war
against
the Palestinians. If America were not involved at all in the Middle
East
I still would sympathize with the Palestinians and I would wish that
they could be successful in driving the Jews into the sea and
annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that conflict between
Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern for me. At least,
my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly
involving my own people in America and in Europe and in southern
Africa.

Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel
Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews
here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are ready
to
do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.

So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian
children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my voice, what I
really am angry about is that the American people, my people, are
being
used for this murderous activity. I am angry that America's whole
foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish interests at the
expense of American interests. I am angry that America's political
system has been perverted to ensure that we always have so-called
"leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are dependent on the
Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their election and
consequently
will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry that our whole government
is
riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in
our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing staff
--
who really set the policies of our government behind the scenes, while
the politicians are out front in the spotlight making speeches and
kissing babies -- and doing as they're told by the Jews behind the
scenes.

Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the
phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews
in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense
for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign policy
adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for the
Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's Defense
Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.

As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real
policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the White
House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might conflict
with
theirs.

And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews
in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in Mr.
Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews controlling
our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really matters.

There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.

Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to
get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East, and
how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing the
"peace process" because they think that it will give too much to the
Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever. These
knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just get
around
the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just neutralize Jews such
as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon could be replaced by
a
"moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the "peace process" could
proceed, America could gradually reduce its involvement in helping the
Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and eventually Israel no longer
would be using America, and everything would be rosy. And so these
knowledgeable Americans expend all of their wit and energy in these
trivial pursuits.

Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between
Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization of the
Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The collaborator
governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are terrified of
the
reaction they see among their own people to what Ariel Sharon is doing
to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops shoot Palestinian
children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now collaborate with
the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best thing that has
happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.

The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the
spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government will
be far less likely to find collaborators for building its so-called
"coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.

Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million
Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals hardly put a
dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if conflict of this
sort
continues until just one collaborator government is overthrown, that
ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.

Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really
do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal with them
in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration
has done and is doing to America. And what do knowledgeable Americans
propose to do about that? Very little, really. They make much of the
fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who carried out the
September 11 attack were in the United States only because of very lax
immigration policies, and so that's a good reason for tightening up
the
policies.

How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?

Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same
with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these
problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money
and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all practical
purposes.

Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed
in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews are very
powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them. They're
afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in connection
with
immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick together and
will
viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the old story, so aptly
expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir John Harington.
Harington
wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it
prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the Jewish power structure
is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is.

Well, that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away
with
so much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews
have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a
mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says to
the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and because
of
this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and achieve
success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a highly moral
and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very
talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses, and because of
this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race, a race of
philanthropists who only want to make a better world for everyone, and
because of this everyone hates us."

Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge
them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called "Holocaust." In its
most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them
during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the Jews'
favorite "Holocaust" phrases.

Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have
used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are
really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen as
bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they would
criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor dears, at
the hands of anti-Semites.

In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There
are a number of good books available on the subject from the sponsor
of
this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's
excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed in an earlier
broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite the fact that
many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the "Holocaust"
still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid of the image
conjured up by the "Holocaust."

Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the
reason, many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just
can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even
when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And really,
in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish problem.

The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage
and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike Americans
today,
they had an honest government concerned above all with the survival,
welfare, and progress of the German people, and they began doing what
was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate wholesale from Germany
beginning in 1933. And because of that the Jewish propaganda machine
has
attacked the Germans so viciously, has so blackened and demonized
their
image, that today even knowledgeable people are afraid to be
associated
with that image. They are afraid to say that the Germans were right,
that the Germans were justified, and that we need to do the same if we
are to survive. So, as I said, the "Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.

Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British
department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands from
anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves products
marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest supermarket
chain
in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway Coop, announced its
decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That decision was not the
result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators but was based on the
feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be immoral to continue
supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.

The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish
merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli products
is
a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even thinkable by
big
businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique -- and in
particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit shopworn.
It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at least, in
some parts of the world.

And I suppose that we should be happy about that. The unfortunate fact
remains, however, that in America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the
"Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still keeps
most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.

Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty
and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the critical
issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our disastrous
foreign
policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and in a dozen other
disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop apologizing to the
people who are destroying us and go full bore at destroying them
instead.

Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to
get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.

Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always
and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now are
making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the Jews
are
like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel Sharon for
demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are like.

Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies
and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people around the
world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing support for
the
Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring about the
overthrow
of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim world. Let us hope that
it brings about an airtight oil embargo against the United States and
shuts off the lights in every shopping mall and every sports stadium
in
America long enough for the lemmings to become restless and begin
asking
questions. Let us hope that it makes the efforts of every fool and
every
traitor who is striving for a resumption of the so-called "peace
process" so obviously futile that these efforts no longer have the
power
to deceive anyone.

Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."

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neptune3

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Apr 9, 2004, 7:12:13 PM4/9/04
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:48:46 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>neptune3 wrote:

Welcome?

So what are you trying to say?

Flame of the West

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Apr 9, 2004, 11:28:42 PM4/9/04
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neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

> The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> people in India.
>
> All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
> intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
> important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
> the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
> are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:

Good heavens! How on Earth can you post such bilge with a straight
face (assuming that's what you are doing)?

Michael O'Neill

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Apr 10, 2004, 5:21:44 AM4/10/04
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neptune3 wrote:

[snip sad lack of education]

> >Affirmative action isn't the way forward.
> >Something's got to change at
> >grass roots level.

> You say you blame things on us Whites.

I posted:

"No whitey, I suspect they are being fitted up."

I didn't say *who* was fitting them up.

I used a slang term "whitey" because you've been spouting racist
attitudes common to whites and *you assumed* I meant that whites were to
blame.

Boy is that a racist mindset or what?

You're one dumb mother to make assumptions like that one Usenet.

Is it even a mind?

And you're trading on I.Q. figures based on tests that don't allow for
any racial learning preferences?

Stats about I.Q. mean nothing, especially in a culture where failing in a
test like that might be seen as a bonus point among your peer group.

Jumpin' through whitey's hoops is for the buttsuckers who've bought the
capitalist line.

115 isn't a very high I.Q. BTW.

Most people who post to the literary NGs are up in the 140s.

And creativity is impossible to measure using most I.Q. tests, yet its
creativity that runs the wheels of change in our society.

Creativity and a unique way of looking at the world.

Not in the I.Q. test. Sorry pal, but stats are for fat cats.

> Then try to get your own
> nation and stop mixing with White people.

You assume I have no nation.

You also assume I am non-white.

<shakes head>

Were you born stupid or did someone drop you on your head when you were
little?

<hint: only the former option excuses the way you are now>

Your racist mindset is so conditioned you cannot see the tracks you
leave.

That's what'll get you in the end, whitey.

The evidence at the scene of the crime that your like-minded brethren
won't see in time to cover up for you.

Because they're stupid, just like you.

Proof: The one original section of what you posted I've just dissected
above, and its not a pretty sight.

The rest of your post and other posts are largely quotations from the
works of other [racist] people without an original contribution.

I've heard of drowning men standing on the shoulders of others to try to
keep their heads above water, but this is ridiculous.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA!!!!!

M.

Flame of the West

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Apr 10, 2004, 7:41:50 AM4/10/04
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neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

> >Your posts have saved me doing a lot of research.


> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> Welcome?
>
> So what are you trying to say?

Next time O'Neill wants to pull out an example of whacko
racism, he'll just point to your post. You explained your
points clearly and were upfront about your conclusions.
That's why your posts make such an excellent example.
Previous posters of your persuasion couldn't even spell
correctly.

Flame of the West

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Apr 10, 2004, 12:47:12 PM4/10/04
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Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<40766F10...@indigo.ie>...

> The really sad fact is that the black American has a rich heritage of
> culture and tradition to draw on and most have turned away from all that
> to the WHite Man's values;-
>
> Property.
> Money.
> Power.
> Cadillacs.
> SUV's.
> Drugs.
> Alcohol.

Ironic coming from you, given that the Irish have a rich heritage of


culture and tradition to draw on and most have turned away from all that

to the Englishman's values;-

Secularism.
Capitalism.
Hedonism.

Heck, you've even ditched your own language to speak like the English.

But in this case, you've beaten The Man at his own game (at least when
it comes to #2).

neptune3

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Apr 10, 2004, 1:00:24 PM4/10/04
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On 9 Apr 2004 20:28:42 -0700, jsol...@netscape.net (Flame of the
West) wrote:


>
>Good heavens! How on Earth can you post such bilge with a straight
>face (assuming that's what you are doing)?
>

It's a Wonderful Race

by James Bronson
There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it
all.
One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his father.
The
argument began when the young student tried to explain to his father
that as
White people, they should be held accountable for all the evils that
they
had inflicted upon non-Whites througout history. George explained:
"Because
of European racism, we stole the Indians' land, we held blacks in
slavery,
we persecuted the Jews, and we plundered the environment. We've been
oppressive racists for thousands of years so it's only fair that we
pay
economic reparations for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm
pleased
to see that we are ending our political and economic domination of the
oppressed peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko
nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie
college
professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology
professor,
Dr.Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr. Silverstein is a
well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just don't understand
because
you were raised in a White supremacist racist society. That's why I've
come
to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as the greatest man in American
history. He stood up to the racists of your generation. Because of
him, my
generation of White kids is completely colorblind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bullshit! I've always been
fair-minded
and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I haven't
'oppressed'
anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong with being proud of
one's own
people, including the European race of people. Your race is in your
blood.
It's like an extension of your biological family and you ought to be
proud
of your European heritage and identity, just like every other racial
group
in America is proud of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong
sense of
racial identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's
the
kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were
discredited
years ago. There's only one race and that's the human race. Diversity
is our
greatest strength. Differences in so-called "race" are as
insignificant as
differences in belly buttons. And besides, UN statistics now show that
low
White birth rates, along with the fact that we live in an
multicultural
society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist
culture
will have died out by the end of the century," young George said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché
you
know that boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European
peoples of
the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young George
replied; "I
think it's great! It will mean the end of racism and the end of hate.
The
oppressed peoples of the world would have been better off if us racist
Europeans had never existed to begin with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge
smoke
cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone and lost
in a
cold open field. An angel named Clarence then appeared to him and said
"Well
George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
to show
you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or Whites, had
never
existed. You now live in a world where Europeans never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a
racist
bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able to tell
my
professor and my friends how great this non-racist world was. Say, I'm
freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once
called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains
where
you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in
non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build
them.
Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would you
like to
go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a
cave I
suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second, are these
Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some
Indians
were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it doesn't mean
they
all were" said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism.
Nonetheless, I'd
feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if they turn out to
be
violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend
yourself
with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though we could make a
spear
with those twigs over there."

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians
to
ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here.
Alexander
Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed. No
Europeans
remember?" "Forget it then" replied George. "I'll sleep in the damn
cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a
lighter
so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence. "There
are no
lighters here, and no matches. Those are European gadgets and evil
Europeans
never existed remember? If you want to get warm, you need to do like
the
locals do and start rubbing twigs together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks
together
for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the
evil
pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the angel
sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light
a fire
with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South
America. I
can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to the great
Incan
civilization I learned about at college. Since European racists like
Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the Incans will still be
there.
... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz,
the
evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were never
born..nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This is a
world
without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans
weren't
here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses of coal,
oil
and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow you to cheat
just
a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived
in an
abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was grateful
for
the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to complain about
the
heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little shithole and I'm sweating up a storm
here.
Get me an air-conditioner please."

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners
here.
Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by evil
White
men." "What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2002 these people
still
haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or their food cool? a
frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I
can't
live like like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars! Dammit
I'll
walk. let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to
get
dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that he
could
see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil White
man
too...and he was never born. There are some branches over there if you
want
to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the
Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to
Clarence
and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody has got
to
stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place
here."Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro
never
existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact, it
was the
oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the Spanish armed
forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who would rid them
of the
oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible
place. Get me out of this shithole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and
humane
civilization there that I can fit into. Where the nearest airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts
available
to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic Ocean. The
great
Viking sailors and European navigators never existed. No Phoenicians,
no
Leif Erikson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus, no Magellan, no
Hudson
and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build your own ship, there
would be
no compass for you to navigate with and no sextant either. I'm afraid
you're
stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll
fly to
Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked
African
tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by other
Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?" George
asked
Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in
Africa long
before the whites arrived." Clarence said."In fact, most of the slaves
who
were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave traders by African
tribal leaders."

"That's so sad.' George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King.
Since his
White assassin never existed, this great man should still be alive.
He's
probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an advanced
civilization. He will free these slaves from their African masters.
Take me
to him Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The
naked
women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men were out
on a
hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to the dingy
little hut
of the tribal witchdocter and spiritual leader. There he saw a
wild-looking
man with a necklace of teeth around his neck and a huge ring pierced
through
his nose. "What the hell is that? George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never
became
Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities or
seminaries
built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create such
opportunities.
But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He specilaizes in
casting
evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his
henchmen
to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George and tied
him to
a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George
hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you George. The good
doctor
King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out while
you are
still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to his tribe,"
laughed
Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet
your
hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see
that now.
Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established great
civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's
heart,
George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the banks of
the
river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it
Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and
primitive? I
learned during Black History Month about many talented black inventors
and
scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington Carver, Benjamin
Banneker,
Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson, the preeminent brain surgeon
in
all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarense replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa,
exist
exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them. Civilization
as
you had known it had only been introduced to these people just a few
centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no universities, no
hospitals, no
means of transportation other than animals, no science, no medicine,
no
machines. In fact, the wheel hasn't even been discovered in
Sub-Saharan
Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and
entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize
their
full human potential because Europeans weren't around to introduce
higher
civilization and learning to them. There are no George Washington
Carvers in
this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons, no Booker T. Washingtons, no
Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans, no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill
Cosbys,
no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great
pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders
of
the world .....built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the
nearest
toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets or
urinals in
this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans. The people in
this
non-White world still relieve themselves in open fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some
toilet
paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a
rag
then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

"I don't understand. According to my recollections from Geography
class, the
great pyramids should be near this very spot. We ought to be able to
see
them from miles away," said George.

"Well, George, I'm sure your professors at the college never told you
this,
but the ancient Egyptians were not black or brown. They were
Caucasians. The
anthropologists who examined the Egyptian mummies confirmed this fact.
There
are no pyramids and no Sphinx either. And the Carthaginians were White
too."

George became depressed, but he was determined to prove his beliefs.
"What's
in Europe?" he asked.

"Europe became populated by Huns and other Asiatic tribes. They've
settled
down a bit but life is much the same as it is in North America. A
nomadic
existence based on hunting and food gathering. No great cities, no
science,
no buildings, no culture, no fine art - just a hard daily struggle
against
life and the elements of nature. In a Europe without evil Whites, the
Roman
Empire never existed nor did the Greeks. There was no Renaisance
either."

"Take me to Asia then. Surely the great civilizations of Persia,
India,
China, and Japan will suit me" George said. "Clarence, to the Taj
Mahal
please." "The Taj Mahal?" replied the angel. "Don't you know that the
ancient Persian and Indian civilizations were established by ancient
Indo-European tribes who crossed the Himalayas? They are the ones who
civilized India and built the Taj Mahal. Those are the great
civilizations
that Marco Polo, Columbus, and others were searching for.Did you know
that
Iran is Persian for "land of the Aryan?"

George said: "Don't tell me that the Indians were White men! That
can't be.
In the world I came from, I knew many Indians and they were not
White!"

Clarence explained: "As the centuries passed, the Indo-Europeans who
created
Indian civilization intermarried with the native majorities who
populated
the Indian subcontinent. Gradually there were less and less evil White
people until they faded out completely, along with the advanced
civilization
they had built. You will notice that there are still a few
white-skinned and
fair-haired Indians and Pakistanis around today -- in the world you
came
from that is.

George became worried. He knew he could never fit into the harsh
primitive
world he had been thrust into. Suddenly he thought of Japan. "Japan!
I'll
show you now Clarence. Take me to Japan. If the Japanese can make TVs
and
cameras then I'm sure I'll find a decent civilization that I can live
in."

Clarence transported George to Japan. George observed that Japanese
society
was the most orderly, advanced and civil that he had seen, but it
seemed as
if almost everyone was either a rice farmer, a fisherman, or a
soldier.
There were no cars, no skyscapers, no lights, no stereos, no sciences,
no
technologies, no universities. It was a stagnant agricultural society
that
seemed to have reached its high water mark and was incapable of moving
forward. George knew he could not live here either.

Clarence explained to Geeorge: "Even the industrious Japanese and
Chinese
peoples had to rely on the evil Europeans to build the modern Asia
that you
had in mind. In this world, Japan exists exactly as it did before
Commodore
Perry's American naval ships arrived in Japan in the 1850s. There's no
industry, no technology, no Fuji film, no Sony, no Hitachi, no
Panasonic, no
Toyota, no Sushi bars, no baseball...none of the trappings or comforts
of
modern life. These things don't exist in Japan or anywhere else
because
Europeans weren't there to create them and share them with the rest of
the
world. Would you care for a bowl of rice George?"

George began to feel sick in both his body and his mind. Not only was
he
depressed, but exposure to the harsh elements of nature had left him
physically ill. "Clarence, I seem to have contracted some type of
sickness.
I must have some anti-biotics."

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

"Oh Shut up already! Then just take me back to the world as it was!"

"Sorry George. I'm not authorized to do that. Only my boss can make
that
call." Clarence said to him: "You see George. Your father was right.
You
really had a wonderful race. Don't you see what a foolish mistake it
is to
be ashamed and guilty about your own people, and to let them die out?
This
is what the world would be like without the creative spark of Edison
and
Ford and Pasteur and Marconi. No great scientists, or mathematicians,
or
inventors or fine artists. No Archimedes, no Aristotle, no Socrates,
no
Alexander, no Renaissance, no Newton, no Kepler, no Goddard, no
Mendel, no
Tesla, no Faraday, no Guttenberg, no Shakespeare, no Dickens, no
Twain, no
Mozart, no Beethoven, no Da Vinci, no Michelangelo, no Galileo, no
Copernicus. No Venice, no Paris, no Lisbon, no Madrid, no Zurich, no
Berlin,
no St. Petersburg, no Budapest, no Rome, no Milan, no Vienna, no
London, no
New York, no Rio, no Sydney. No orchestras, no museums, no
universities, no
hospitals, no libraries, no theaters, no radio, no books, no
television, no
electricity, no refrigeration, no heating, no plumbing, no houses, no
steel,
no stadiums, no vaccines, no cars, no planes, no trains, no ships, no
dentists, no surgeons, no computers, no telephones, and most important
-
there's no creative genius to be found that could create and sustain
such a
high level of civilization. There's nothing for the people of this
world to
build upon. It's just a daily struggle for subsistence. A brutal
planet
where the few people who aren't mired in eternal ignorance and
darkness have
reached their peak of civilization and are advancing no further."

Clarence went on to lecture the broken and depressed young man for
seven
days straight. He covered everything. History, science, economics,
philosophy, art, literature, fine music, architecture, medicine,
politics,
agriculture, religion, and all the creations and contributions that
the
European peoples had made in every conceivable field of human
endeavor.
George listened closely to every word. He felt like a man who had been
reborn.

After his lecture, Clarence the Angel floated away towards heaven. "I
hope
you have found all this to be educational, and I hope you have learned
an
important lesson. Enjoy your world George!" mocked the departing
angel.

George began to sob like a baby. It was the year 2002 and he was alone
and
hungry in a backwards world where Europeans had never existed. He
cried out
to the stars: "Please God. I see what a fool I've been. I understand
now
what my father was trying to tell me. I want to go back to the world
that I
came from. A world where Europeans not only existed, but blessed the
rest of
humanity world with their unique creative ability. I want to live in a
civilized world. Please God!...take me back!...take me back!...Oh
God....please."

Suddenly George was transported back to his college dormitory. Drunk
with
joy, George jumped into the showers before he could even take his
clothes
off!.

"Warm water! and soap! Life is beautiful!" he screamed.

George's floormates looked at him as if he was crazy. "George! Have
you gone
crazy?" asked a bewildered schoolmate.

"No my friend. I haven't taken leave of my senses. I've come to them!"
George replied. George then began to sing classic European folk songs
in the
shower. Miraculously, he was able to sing in many different languages.
He
sang O Sole Mio in Italian, Amazing Grace in English, Gloire
Immortelle in
French, Das Ist Der Tag in German, and also Belgian, Spanish and
French
ballads and waltzes. Tears of sheer joy began to stream down his
cheeks. The
degenerate music of Hip-Hop and Rap lost all of its appeal to young
George.

After his shower, George drove to a nearby restaurant and ordered two
whole
entrees. One was Lasagna and the other was a delicious Veal Marsala.
With
his Italian food he had a Greek salad with Spanish olives and Russian
dressing, drank a whole bottle of French wine, followed by a German
pastry
for dessert. He finished his meal off with a hot cup of English tea
and a
Cuban cigar.

George said out loud: "Oh those European peoples and their delicious
cuisine. Clarence was right after all. What a wonderful race!"

George was happy, but at the same time he realized there was much work
to be
done. He thought of all those poor whites in Rhodesia and South Africa
who
were being murdered and raped ever since they gave up control of those
once-European nations. He thought of the many thousands of qualified
Whites
who were passed up for good jobs and college entrance because of
racial
quotas that discriminate against Europeans. He thought about the
decling
birthrates among all the European nations of the world. He remembered
that
Europeans everywhere were dwindling in numbers every year even as
their own
nations were being flooded with third world immigration. He recalled
the
O.J. Simpson verdict and how millions of blacks in America cheered
when that
brutal double murderer was set free by a black jury after he stabbed
two
Whites to death. He remembered the Los Angeles riots of 1992, where
dozens
of Whites were dragged out of their vehicles and killed like dogs in
the
streets by packs of White-hating monsters who were never even
punished! He
remembered the time when Jesse Jackson led a cheer at Stanford
University:
"Hey Hey Ho Ho, Western Civ. has got to go!" His European blood began
to
boil in righteous indignation when he recalled how Jesse Jackson once
said
he had spit in White people's food when he was a young restaurant
worker.
George now understood that that his people were on a collision course
with
worldwide disaster and genocide. George realized that this great
people must
not perish from the face of the earth.

George could not wait to see his father. He longed to embrace him and
apologize for all of the foolish and disrespectful things he had said
to
him. But first, George had a score to settle with a certain college
professor. He walked into Dr. Silverstein's auditorium and quietly
took a
seat in the back row. The nasal voiced Silverstein was lecturing on
and on
about racial and gender inequalities in European-centered
civilizations. It
was vintage Silverstein. George's impressionable White schoolmates,
with
their baggy pants, hip-hop clothes and backwards baseball caps, were
swallowing Silverstein's poison pills hook, line and sinker. After
letting
Silverstein spew his cultural poison for about 15 minutes or so,
George
raised his hand so that he could give the profesor a piece of his
newly
educated mind.

"George? Is that you? I remember you from last semester. I wasn't
aware that
you were here today. I failed to recognize you in that shirt and tie,
and
without your earrings. You must have enjoyed my course so much that
you
signed up again eh? Class, I'd like for you to meet George. He was one
of my
brightest students last semester. He truly has a thorough grasp of the
ideas
presented in this course. George, would you be so kind as to tell my
class
about that brilliant term paper you wrote about European racism,
imperialism, and the need for monetary reparations?"

That's when young George let loose on the unsuspecting Professor.

"ENOUGH! You scheming devil! You mendacious fabricator of falsehoods!
You
pusillanimous purveyor of pinko propaganda! How dare you try to
corrupt and
manipulate our young minds when your filthy lies. We Europeans have
nothing
to be ashamed of, nothing to apologize for, and everything to be proud
of.
And most of all, we don't owe anybody jack-shit - not one thin dime!
To the
contrary, it is the rest of humanity that owes us a debt which can
never be
repaid! We are the rightful heirs and protectors of a rich cultural
heritage. You vile manipulator! We are the sons of the Romans, the
sons of
the Greeks, the Celtics, the Vikings, the Normans, the Saxons. Why do
you
inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just contribute
to
civilization...WE ARE CIVILIZATION! And I decare that I will no longer
tolerate you shithead "intellectuals" trying to tear our people down.
Never
again will we walk on eggshells when we speak, always fearing that we
might
be called "racist." I no longer care what people think. All that
matters is
the truth which you have sought to pervert!"

"What are you up to anyway? Why do you to corrupt my young peers by
shoving
false heroes down their throats. Enough of your Marxist games of
divide and
conquer, you commie pinko subversive! I don't want to learn anymore
about
Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Black History Month.
They
would not have amounted to anything without the institutions of high
civilization created by the European peoples. I'm going to set this
class
straight about who the truly great men of history are - the European
statesmen, scientists, explorers, monarchs, navigators, conquerors,
inventors, artists, writers, philosophers - the innovative giants of
history
that you and your ilk have erased from our collective memories. You
speak of
a world liberated from European influence? Permit me tell your
students
about such a world, Silverstein, because I can speak from personal
experience, you wretched little conspiring monster!"

Silverstein turned white as a ghost. He was shellshocked and rendered
speechless for the first time in his career! Never in all of his years
at
the University had a student dared to so boldly challenge his
falsehoods.
Speaking from the heart as well as the mind, and with an eloquence he
never
thought he could muster, George broke out into a 60-minute monologue
on
history, science, philosophy, culture, and all the other attributes
that
constitute high civilization. The young students were captivated by
George's
brilliant oratory. Many were moved to tears. By the end of his tirade,
George's reawakened classmates were thundering their approval of his
speech.
The class gave George a standing ovation and they thanked him for
helping
them rediscover and reclaim their own sense of pride and lost
identity. The
unstoppable power of truth had melted away years of Marxist guilt
tripping,
self hate, wimpishness and cultural brainwashing in just one
unforgettable
hour. The inspired students proceeded to storm out of Silverstein's
class,
throwing their hip-hop baseball caps and nose earings at him as they
stampeded out and vowed never to return. They lifted George up upon
their
shoulders and carried him out of the auditorium like a conquering
hero. With
a glint in his eye, George glanced up towards the sky, winked and said
"Thank you, Clarence."

Dr. Silverstein was left humiliated and visibly shaken. He knew that
these
reawakened European kids could never again be brainwashed with
"political
correctness" and White guilt. Silverstein's greatest fear was that
more of
these proud European youths would one day reawaken and take their
country
and civilization back from the Silversteins of the world.

Silverstein was worried, but he remained confident that most young men
and
women would never learn the truth about their glorious past and unique
creative abilties. After all, the mass media, Hollywood, the music
industry,
the colleges, and the public schools are all controlled by "liberals"
like
Dr. Silverstein. With the power of political correctness in their
hands,
they can continue to tear down our European ancesters, destroy our
institutions and traditions, instigate blacks and other races against
the
whites, flood America with third-world immigration, and push "hip-hop"
music, homosexuality, and other garbage onto a weak, confused and
morally
degenerate youth. After reflecting upon these facts, Silverstein
smiled a
devilish grin and muttered to himself: "A few of these European sheep
may
wake up to what's being done to them, but the majority of these idiots
never
will." And he smiled again....and laughed with diabolical Marxist
glee. Then
he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's
too late."

Or will they?

neptune3

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Apr 10, 2004, 1:13:59 PM4/10/04
to
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:21:44 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>neptune3 wrote:
>
>
>"No whitey, I suspect they are being fitted up."
>
>I didn't say *who* was fitting them up.

Why can't there just be a lot more Black murderers? I will admit
that people on death row are not usually in the upper income brackets.
Money and having jobs is a factor. But people on death row probably
belong there and if most of them are Black it doesn't mean it was
rigged that way.

>
>I used a slang term "whitey" because you've been spouting racist
>attitudes common to whites and *you assumed* I meant that whites were to
>blame.
>
>Boy is that a racist mindset or what?
>
>You're one dumb mother to make assumptions like that one Usenet.
>
>Is it even a mind?
>
>And you're trading on I.Q. figures based on tests that don't allow for
>any racial learning preferences?
>
>Stats about I.Q. mean nothing, especially in a culture where failing in a
>test like that might be seen as a bonus point among your peer group.
>
>Jumpin' through whitey's hoops is for the buttsuckers who've bought the
>capitalist line.
>
>115 isn't a very high I.Q. BTW.
>
>Most people who post to the literary NGs are up in the 140s.
>
>And creativity is impossible to measure using most I.Q. tests, yet its
>creativity that runs the wheels of change in our society.
>
>Creativity and a unique way of looking at the world.
>
>Not in the I.Q. test. Sorry pal, but stats are for fat cats.

We should avoid discussing intelligence with Blacks. We don't want
to offend them. We should concentrate on the fact that we should have
a White nation and they should have their own nation.

>
>> Then try to get your own
>> nation and stop mixing with White people.
>
>You assume I have no nation.

Whites don't have a nation. Some of us want one.

>
>You also assume I am non-white.
>
><shakes head>

You mean you are a Jew? : (


>
>Were you born stupid or did someone drop you on your head when you were
>little?
>

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
lie.

The Killing of Whites Continues: South Africa
American Dissident Voices Broadcast of September 28, 2002


Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom.

Last week I told you about the state-sanctioned ethnic cleansing of
Whites that is going on in Zimbabwe, and the farm invasions and the
murders of White men and women who refuse to leave their farms there.
The slaughter of Whites and the theft of their land in Zimbabwe is
horrifying, and the fact that the Jewish media says almost nothing
about
it is quite telling. Today I am going to tell you about another
country
where Whites are being slaughtered at an even higher rate: Zimbabwe's
southern neighbor, South Africa.

South Africa has three times the population of Zimbabwe, and 13 times
the White population: almost 6 million Whites live there. As with
Zimbabwe, the media silence about the murder of Whites there is almost
total; and in South Africa's case, even human rights groups are
largely
silent, perhaps because the Black takeover there was so recent and so
many "liberals" have an emotional investment in the ANC/Communist
regime
they helped to power. Whatever the reason for the blackout, I'm here
to
break it.

In 1994, after decades of propaganda in the media and sentimental
whimpering from the churches, South African Whites were finally
persuaded to hand power over to Black Communists, who, with the
decisive
help of the Jews, installed an ANC ("African National
Congress")/Communist government that, for some strange reason, failed
to
follow Marxist ideology when it came to expropriating the business
interests of the Jewish Oppenheimer family, who dominate South
Africa's
economy. They did succeed, however, in making South Africa into a
multiracial sewer with one of the highest violent crime, murder, rape,
and AIDS infection rates in the world. The media made a saint of
Nelson
Mandela, a convicted terrorist who had been imprisoned by the White
government there, and when the Whites capitulated he was made
President.

After the media's announcement that their long campaign of sanctions,
boycotts, and intimidation had finally succeeded in bringing
"equality"
and "democracy" to what had previously been one of the few outposts of
White civilization on the African continent, the media coverage of
that
country almost ceased, and one seldom hears about South Africa today
in
the mass media. The reason is that South Africa, exactly as predicted
by
the National Alliance and other horrible bigots and "racists," is
rapidly descending into crime, disease, filth, and savagery.

Since the Black takeover in 1994, 1,368 White farmers have been
murdered
in farm invasions and attacks that number in the multiple thousands.
More than half of the White farmers have given up and left their farms
permanently, contributing to the region's looming famine. And yet this
is not an issue in the Jewish media. South African farmers now suffer
the highest murder rate in the world -- 274 per 100,000. And yet this
is
not an issue in the Jewish media. In a study commissioned by a leading
South African bank, Nedbank, it was revealed that the Black attackers
are

"'deliberately targeting specific homesteads to kill the [White]
Afrikaner victims': robbery was not the prime motivation, in fact in
85%
of last year's farm attacks, nothing had been 'robbed.'"

In other words, killing the White man, raping and killing the White
woman, raping and killing the White child are the real motivations.
And
yet this is not an issue in the Jewish media.

Let me give you a few examples:

On June 15th of this year, sugar farmer Robert Dent and his wife
Allison, both 59, were killed in front of their twelve-year-old son
Nicholas Dent. A Black invader entered the Dent home between two and
three AM that Saturday morning, armed with a military-style rifle. He
bludgeoned the unarmed couple, who were surprised in their sleep, and
then, in the presence of their son, shot them to death at point-blank
range in the farmhouse bathroom. The terrified Nicholas was then
forced
to drive the killer in his parents' car about three miles away, where
both killer and child escaped.

I have the figures in front of me for just this month, September 2002,
and though the month isn't over, nine farmers have been killed,
including four children and an elderly farm couple, George and
Albertina
Lewis, whose dog was also killed. The police report on the Lewis's
murder says "no motive."

In August, a farmer's wife was attacked in a firebombing, and Johan
Viljoen, a Zevenfontein cheese farmer, was torched to death along with
one of his workers. Christo Olivier and Jan Kempdorp of Vryburg were
tortured to death and then buried in a shallow grave. The two Blacks
who
were arrested for this crime were granted bail. On the 7th, the
headless
torso of what police reports call an "ethnic-European male" was found
on
Mpumalanga farm. And Johannes Maree, 62, of Randfontein, was found
bludgeoned to death on August 1st.

In June and July, Johan Steyn, 65, was shot dead in the Cullinan area;
smallholder Roy Murley was tortured to death; Johannes Lake and Johnny
Scheepers were shot to death; dairy farmer George Siemens, 62, was
killed; and Cheryl van Houten, 51, was hacked to death.

In April and May, Ben Vorster, 67, was murdered by an armed Black
gang;
Andre Pienaar, 56, was shot dead; Mona Sawyer, 78, served food to a
Black caller at her home in Magaliesberg and was then stabbed to
death;
Rita Mans, a 31-year-old farmer's wife was shot to death in Ottosdal;
70-year-old Iris du Preez was murdered on her small farm; Dickson
Pillay, 36, and his brother Sandy Pillay of Glendale Farm homestead
were
burned to death when Blacks torched their farm.

In the first three months of this year, more than 30 farm murders
occurred, including the killing of classical musician Felicity Gale,
58,
of Port Jackson -- her husband, Rodney, 67, survived the attack;
Marius
and Lillian Delport, 50 and 54, of a smallholding near De Deur were
shot
and nothing was stolen; Rudi Schmidt, 51, of a farm near Pontdrift was
stabbed to death; 21-year-old Catherine Watkins of Potchefstroom was
found with her windpipe torn out; Estelle Burger, 27, a farmers wife,
was kidnapped and then shot; John de Lange, 66, a smallholder in Mount
Pleasant was shot to death, his wife, Evelin de Lange, 60, was raped
and
garroted; and Arthur Smith, 63, and his wife Isobel, were found with
their throats slit and their bodies severely beaten on their farm in
Sundra.

I'm just giving you the highlights here, by the way, and just from the
last few months. The grisly details and the horrifying numbers can be
found in the reports of Crimebusters South Africa and the excellent
data
assembled by Adriana Stuijt and her "Journalism During Apartheid"
site.
These farm massacres are occurring at a reported rate of about one
every
other day. The horror on these White farms has been steadily climbing
since 1994. And yet this is not an issue in the Jewish media.

Unlike Zimbabwe, the government in South Africa does not have an
officially-announced policy of supporting these farm invasions and
massacres. But they do have a policy of looking the other way and
doing
next to nothing about it, a policy which encourages Black violence
against Whites. Their attitude is perhaps best expressed by Peter
Mokaba, until recently South Africa's Deputy Minister of Environmental
Affairs and Tourism, who whined recently that "The high crime rate is
seriously affecting tourism and an alternative image of South Africa
needed to be promoted. We want to encourage people to come here
and see that crime does not dominate." Really? What Mr. Mokaba did not
tell you was that he himself is famous for the slogans he invented and
uttered again and again when he was a leader in the ANC/Communist war
against the White government of South Africa: "Kill the Boer! Kill the
farmer!" and "One settler, one bullet."

Kill the Boer, kill the farmer. And it is to such a government that
White farmers must appeal for protection.

Even that government admits that, under Black rule, crime and murder
are
out of control. The South African Police Service report entitled
Attacks
on Farms and Smallholdings 1/99 stated: "Violence seems to have become
an endemic feature of South African life. According to the comparative
crime statistics for 1996 released by Interpol, the country tops the
list internationally as far as the incidence of murder and rape is
concerned. ?the fact that attacks on the residents of farms and
smallholdings are escalating at a rate out of proportion to the
general
increase in crime figures observed in South Africa is indeed cause for
serious concern."

Such, I suppose, are the wonderful benefits of "multiracial
democracy."
Such are the results of succumbing to Jewish propaganda, of giving up
your rights as White men and women to control your own territory in a
delusional attempt to be "fair" and "nice" to Blacks. All I can say is
don't fall for these Jewish tricks, this Jewish moral blackmail any
more. Don't let what happened to South Africa happen to Europe or
Australasia or America. Work every day of your life for a White
future.
Join the National Alliance.

The murders I've been describing here are just the farm murders. The
murder rate in the cities is even higher, for Johannesburg alone it is
500 per month. Many of the victims are White, and the attackers Black
and racially motivated, though the Jewish media, which sobbed about
Nelson Mandela's imprisonment for three decades, never mention them.

And South Africa is also the rape capital of the world. A woman is
reported raped every 23 seconds in South Africa. A small child is
reported raped every thirty minutes. And remember, these are the
reported and admitted rapes. This dismal record is partly due to the
Congoids' innate savagery when released from the control of civilized
men, and partly due to the Black folk belief that raping a virgin will
cure AIDS, which is rampant in that country. [Jackie Loffell,
Johannesburg Child Welfare Society, 13th International Congress on
Child
Abuse and Neglect in Durban.]

On May 24, 2000, the beaten, battered and nearly frozen body of a
young
Polish woman was found, clad only in a soaked t-shirt, along the road
to
South Africa's Sterkfontein Dam. Her body was so cold it was actually
blue. Her hair was wet and she was covered with bruises, open wounds,
deep scratches, and mud. She was curled in a fetal position. She was
still alive. To students of rape in South Africa she was another digit
in the statistics. To Americans and Europeans who get their news from
the major media, she didn't even exist.

She was a 27-year-old newlywed on her honeymoon, a honeymoon that
ended
when three Blacks murdered her husband in front of her eyes and then
brutally raped her, beat her, attempted to kill her and left her for
dead. The bruise marks around her neck indicated that her rapists had
tried to strangle her. At the treatment center she was immediately
given
AZT by Polish Consulate authorities (treatment refused her by the
South
African government) in the hope that it would prevent the transfer of
HIV, since two of her three attackers tested positive for the virus.

She testified that after her attackers murdered her husband, they
forced
her in the trunk of their car, and went to a secluded spot where each
of
the Blacks raped her in turn. They then attempted to drown her by
stamping their feet on her head in an attempt to keep her head
underwater. The woman has returned to her native Poland and refuses to
set foot in South Africa again, even to testify.

As reported by investigator Jack Galt, on November 17th of the same
year, a 14-year-old White girl was cruelly raped by a gang of five
blacks in her home in Pretoria. According to her counselors, she has
been traumatized for the rest of her life. Spokesmen for the White
Afrikaner community, who you will not hear on CBS, NBC, or Fox News,
state that this attack was a deliberate attempt to terrorize Whites.

Five heavily-armed Blacks invaded the home, and proceeded to tie up
the
girl's mother, father, six-year-old sister and ten-year-old brother
with
barbed wire in the living room.

They then grabbed the 14-year-old girl and took her to the bathroom,
where they brutally gang-raped her, each of the five Blacks in turn,
with the family listening nearby, helpless. Then the Blacks returned
to
the living room where they beat and kicked the White father in the
face
while he was still tied up, ransacked the home, and fled in the
family's
car.

South African mother Ame Brown of Elliot in the Eastern Cape recently
stated: "On the 8th of October, 1998 my two children and I were
overpowered by four Black men. We were robbed of everything, and
before
leaving the men took turns raping me in front of my two boys aged 8
and
12. They forced my boys to watch. I have since then been tested for
HIV
of which my tests at five months showed positive. It has not been easy
coping with being raped and having HIV. But I have a fantastic husband
who has stood by me through all my depression and down days and all my
sleepless nights. He has been my backbone and tower of strength."

The rape situation is so bad in South Africa -- the worst in the world
-- that British and American doctors are now advising female travelers
to carry anti-AIDS drugs in their bags because of the high risk of
infection from HIV-carrying rapists there. The British security
magazine
Intersec reports "The high number of reported rapes in the country is
already a deterrent for prospective visitors -- and the South African
government's decision not to provide AZT to victims of rape means they
are unlikely to get the drugs at local clinics." Dr. Andrew Jamieson,
medical director of the British Airways Travel Clinic, said "the
academic travel medicine community had discussed the issue for a
number
of years."

"About six months ago, it was decided that this would be a reasonable
thing to do ... it's all about risk management. There is a real risk
for
travelers to this country and other countries in Africa. We do have a
high HIV rate and a high incidence of rape so we cannot pretend it is
not there," he said. Predictably, the South African government, which
fails to protect White women from rapists, is furious at the doctors,
fearing a further loss of tourism dollars.

White ingenuity and inventiveness have come up with an experimental
deterrent to the Black rapist problem, however. Seventy-two-year-old
Jaap Haumann, a retired anesthetist in the Free State, South Africa,
has
invented what he calls a "mutilator tampon" designed to lop off the
end
of a rapist's penis. Haumann says he designed the device after talking
to rape victims, and he thinks that at least a million South African
women will flock to buy it. "It became clear to me that rape has a
devastating impact on the lives of women, physically and especially
mentally. We all know that South Africa has the highest rape
statistics
in the world. With this device I believe would-be rapists would think
twice before attacking any woman in this country." Unfortunately, Dr.
Haumann's invention would not solve the problem of HIV transmission.

Cape Town, South Africa has become the world capital of what is called
the "sex tourism" trade. Press reports have described it as the
"sleaze
capital of the world," and these days that's really saying something.
Perverts from all over the world go there (bringing "needed tourist
dollars" to be sure) to have sex with children, many of them White sex
slaves, but others imported from brothels as far away as Thailand.
"Sex
with children," of course, is just a euphemism for rape of the
innocent.
"Child Sex Tours" are even sponsored by some "entrepreneurs" while the
government looks the other way.

In the bad old days of White rule and apartheid, such things weren't
tolerated. But in the new "rainbow" South Africa, where can the
innocent
victims look for protection? The mayor of Cape Town, a Black named
William Bantom, was recently discovered to be enjoying his huge
personal
collection of child pornography in his office while on the job. And he
wasn't ousted as mayor. Perhaps the Church will help them? Bantom is
also a noted clergyman, known for his liberal views on "human rights,"
"democracy," and "equality."

A listener in New York has written this week to ask what he and others
can do to help the embattled Whites of Southern Africa. He rightly
points out that even though our first priority is to build the
National
Alliance into a powerhouse to secure the future of our people, these
White farmers need help now in their local communities, in their own
countries. I can't tell you how you should help, but I can put you in
touch with those who are on the front lines in those countries, and
they
can tell you more.

Two of the best sources of news about Zimbabwe and South Africa on the
Internet are Southern Cross Africa News, <http://www.scafrica.com>;
and
also the South African Exiles Site,
<http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~springbk>.
If you weren't able to copy the URL's as you listened to the radio,
don't worry; they'll be present in the text version of this broadcast
at
our natvan.com and natall.com Web sites, and all subscribers to our
monthly Free Speech newsletter will get them, too. There's also a
publication from South Africa entitled The Boer, which is charting a
path for eventual self-determination and national freedom for Whites
in
a White state. The publishers also operate a White history museum in
South Africa, the Balmoral Genocide Museum, to preserve for future
generations the true history of that land which the present Black
government is trying to erase from our memories. They may be reached
via
the Southern Cross Africa site just mentioned, or you may write to
them
at their postal address of:

Balmoral Museum.
PO Box 30
Balmoral 1037
South Africa

Another effort to build a new homeland for South Africa's Whites is
the
Orania Project, <http://www.orania.co.za> .

When the Jewish media, or your church, tells you that "multiracial
democracy" is good for you, I want you to remember South Africa. I
want
you to remember Nicholas Dent being forced to watch the murder of his
parents. I want you to remember Ame Brown's children forced to watch
her
rape ordeal. I want you to remember the sex slaves of Cape Town. Then
I
want you to think about the changing complexion of this country, of
how
our open borders and high non-White birth rates are inevitably
transforming our country into a larger version of South Africa. If
you're tender-hearted, and that's a White characteristic, you might
want
to consider if turning over the government to non-Whites, as we are
gradually doing, even benefits the non-Whites. I can't think of a
better
example than the rapid fall of South Africa since 1994. I want you to
think about those things, and then I want you to do something about
them. We Whites need to build an organization for ourselves alone. The
churches and the government and the media are closed to us now. Any
White who stands up for his own people is locked out. But by joining
our
efforts and our fortunes together, we can change history.

Until next week, this is Kevin Alfred Strom reminding you to keep on
thinking free.

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On 10 Apr 2004 04:41:50 -0700, jsol...@netscape.net (Flame of the
West) wrote:


>
>Next time O'Neill wants to pull out an example of whacko
>racism,

by Thomas Jackson

> he'll just point to your post. You explained your

>points clearly and were upfront about your conclusions.
>That's why your posts make such an excellent example.
>Previous posters of your persuasion couldn't even spell
>correctly.
>

You are not so bad yourself, for a political opponant.

Flame of the West

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neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

> by Thomas Jackson
> There is surely no nation in the world that holds "racism" in greater
> horror than does the United States. Compared to other kinds of
> offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press
> and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and
> arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as
> part of the inevitable texture of American life. "Racism" is never
> shrugged off. For example, when a White Georgetown Law School student
> reported earlier this year that black students are not as qualified as
> White students, it set off a booming, national controversy about
> "racism." If the student had merely murdered someone he would have
> attracted far less attention and criticism.

<snip>

Objections:

(1) The writer is unjustified in concluding without evidence that the
disparity in test scores and economic performance (on average)
is due to racial inferiority. One needs further tests. For example,
one might compare scores of middle-class kids of different
ethnic groups rather than lumping in the dysfunctional inner-city
schools. Or one might compare African-Americans with
pure-blooded Africans (say, recent immigrants). Since almost
all African-Americans have some European blood in them, your
theory would predict that African-Americans would score
higher.

(2) The writer pulls a fast one in speaking about Blacks and then
talking about non-White immigration. How much of this "90%
non-White" figure includes Hispanics and Asians?

(3) Asians score higher than "Whites" on standardized tests, so by
racial theory they ought to run the country, be favored in immigration,
etc. Indeed, at my alma mater of the University of California at
Berkeley, white parents were calling for affirmative action *for whites*
after it came to light than more Asians were being admitted than
whites!

Pip

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"Flame of the West" <jsol...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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<snip>

> You explained your points clearly
> and were upfront about your conclusions.

Not from my point of view. He does little more than parrot the opinions of
others. I read very little of his own thoughts in his posts and I doubt he
can express even a single original one. In the process of all of the
cross-posting, did ANYONE actually read an entire post of this mindless
drone's drivel? Anyone at all? Every word all the way to the end?

Communication is far more than vomiting up the "food" you masters feed you
for the purpose of offering others something worthy of consumption, Neptune.
If others have no desire to consume what you offer, you haven't communicated
at all. That leaves you with no one to eat it but yourself. Further, each
generation of re-vomited logic becomes... <snip>

Figure it out on your own.

Oh yeah, next he will be claiming that those of us who disagree with him
"just aren't intelligent enough" to understand the light of his truth. Well?
There is but one conclusion to the theory that it takes an educated eye to
see your "light" - It must be hopelessly dim!

1+1=3 only works if you stretch it quite a bit. Sadly, I doubt he can even
fathom the fallacy of his logic. Heck, I wonder if he even understands even
what I'm talking about.

1+1=5...

I can see him having a life-changing epiphany if he ever admits the truth to
himself - "Yes, I know I have an ego problem, but I can handle it."

1+1=7! Hey Neptune? There you go! Make that eiphany a cornerstone of your
life! Perhaps you will live long enough to understand that the joke is not
on you - it IS you - just another clueless, helpless drone/slave of those to
whom you have surrendered your ability for independent thought.

1+1=9!!! See? the longer you think about it the easier the stretch becomes!

Shakes head in disbelief,
Pip

neptune3

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Apr 11, 2004, 10:26:36 AM4/11/04
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On 10 Apr 2004 16:54:41 -0700, jsol...@netscape.net (Flame of the
West) wrote:


>
>Objections:
>
>(1) The writer is unjustified in concluding without evidence that the
>disparity in test scores and economic performance (on average)
>is due to racial inferiority.
> One needs further tests. For example,
>one might compare scores of middle-class kids of different
>ethnic groups rather than lumping in the dysfunctional inner-city
>schools. Or one might compare African-Americans with
>pure-blooded Africans (say, recent immigrants). Since almost
>all African-Americans have some European blood in them, your
>theory would predict that African-Americans would score
>higher.

They do.

>
>(2) The writer pulls a fast one in speaking about Blacks and then
>talking about non-White immigration. How much of this "90%
>non-White" figure includes Hispanics and Asians?

Probably a lot.

>
>(3) Asians score higher than "Whites" on standardized tests

The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
multi-culture and pluralism.


>, so by
>racial theory they ought to run the country, be favored in immigration,

No, we would be for having a White nation regardless of what the
intelligence facts are. We want to preserve our race.


>etc. Indeed, at my alma mater of the University of California at
>Berkeley, white parents were calling for affirmative action *for whites*
>after it came to light than more Asians were being admitted than
>whites!
>

We should have a nation for White people.

neptune3

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Apr 11, 2004, 10:37:16 AM4/11/04
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:01:27 -0500, "Pip" <Pip_P...@yeehaw.com>
wrote:

The post above contains no relevant thoughts. He will probably
gripe again when I cut and paste instead of replying to his hot air.
But I don't usually allow his type to get the last word.

"For us there are only two possibilities: either we remain German or
we come under the thumb of the Jews. This latter must not occur; even
if we are small, we are a force. A well-organized group can conquer a
strong enemy. If you stick close together and keep bringing in new
people, we will be victorious over the Jews."

Adolf Hitler
SPEECH OF NOVEMBER 9, 1921

Ty

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Apr 11, 2004, 11:32:06 AM4/11/04
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"Flame of the West" <jsol...@netscape.net> wrote in message

> (1) The writer is unjustified in concluding without evidence that the


> disparity in test scores and economic performance (on average)
> is due to racial inferiority.

It is no longer arguable whether blacks (on average) score significantly
lower than whites on standardized IQ tests. But that observation doesn't
really get us very far. The question, as you note, is why do they score
lower. And by the way, the authors of The Bell Curve, for instance, found
that even after correcting for economics, family structure, etc., the
disparity remained.

Before I get too deep in this, let me declare a key assumption. I believe
that IQ is not an immutable characteristic, any more than physical strength
is. While biology may place limits on the maximum or minimum intelligence of
a person, I think that this is a very large range and that one can improve
his or her intelligence through effort and experience. Reader's of Frank
Herbert's Dune will confirm that Frank agreed with this thesis.

Anyhow, back to the discussion. While the notion of "racial" explanations
for differing performance levels is politically incorrect -- and quite
understandably so given its abuse by the Nazis and others -- I see no reason
to exclude it from consideration as a potential answer.

Certainly, I am not aware of any biological reason that woudd preclude
strains of a species from tending to be better or worse at certain things.
Therefore, I think that race -- to the extent that this term can be
adequately defined -- is a valid line of inquiry.

That said, I think there are a number of problems that must be addressed,
however:

1. Just as the forces of political correctness want to force science to
conform to their ideology, the forces of racial bigotry sek to do the same
by automatically assuming that race is *the* explanation.

2. The variation between individuals is tremendous, so the observation that
one group on average scores lower than another group isn't very useful in
evaluating individuals.

3. I'm no biologist or psychologist, but it seems to me that there are
*many* environmental factors that profoundly affect intelligence. When I
earned by teaching certification in the early 1990s, I took a course in
Educational Psychology. One thing I recall was a study that found that while
1st and 2nd generation Asians tend to score higher on standardized tests,
3rd generation Asians tended to score about the same as Whites --
acculturation perhaps? And if this is still the case, it argues against an
entirely biological racial explanation. And as a school teacher, I can
assure you that parental interest and involvement are the most profound
influence on a child's success in the classroom. The factors could simply
appear more or less frequently in certain cultures.

4. It would appear to me that "race" must be a somewhat slippery concept, at
least in biological terms. How much "black" ancestry is required before you
are biologically "black"? It is also clear to me that the terms are not
consistently applied between so-called "races". In many cases, the term is a
cultural identifier -- i.e., "hispanics", who may have more European
ancestry than many "whites". Yet in other cases, the term is something of a
biological identifier -- "blacks" or "orientals" (I would call them Asians,
except that there are many Asians -- Indians for instance -- who lack the
features of what we call Asians). And so on. For this reason, I am inclined
to believe that the explanation for the differences are largely cultural
rather than biological. However, I would note that many PC people find the
notion that culture can profoundly influence performance as offensive as the
notion that race could exert such an influence.

5. In a pluralistic democratic society, a race based explanation for lower
intelligence will have profoundly negative implications for the society.
Therefore, I think that one should be particularly reluctant to embrace such
an explanation, unless the evidence strongly supports it. Note that I am not
saying we shouldn't study the problem from a racial angle. I am merely
saying that the negative implications of such a conclusion are for us to be
*very* sure before we embrace it.

> (2) The writer pulls a fast one in speaking about Blacks and then
> talking about non-White immigration. How much of this "90%
> non-White" figure includes Hispanics and Asians?

Here's an interesting little stunt that I came across in my afore-mentioned
teacher's education. Many on the left who argue for increased social funding
for hispanics have a little problem. Seems that Cuban Americans tend to
perform far higher across the board than other hispanic subgroups. So some
studies *exclude* them from the defnition of "hispanic"...

> (3) Asians score higher than "Whites" on standardized tests, so by
> racial theory they ought to run the country, be favored in immigration,
> etc. Indeed, at my alma mater of the University of California at
> Berkeley, white parents were calling for affirmative action *for whites*
> after it came to light than more Asians were being admitted than
> whites!

Well, the good news is that after 2 generations of McDonald's, MTV, video
games, etc., the Asians will be right back down among the white folks. :-)

I am personally rather amused that some folks can't understand that the more
effort you put into something usually increases your ability at it. So if a
child spends most of his time on education and knowledge enhancement, it
should shock no one that he will probably be smarter and better educated
than a child with equal talent who spends all his time lifting weights. Of
course, the second child will probable be a whole lot stronger than the
first one.

If I am correct, then the implications for culture and its influence on
intelligence are obvious. If culture A tends to value learning and culture B
tends to devalue learning, then one would expect the citizens of culture A
to know more.

--Ty


Flame of the West

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Apr 11, 2004, 2:53:38 PM4/11/04
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neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

> The post above contains no relevant thoughts. He will probably


> gripe again when I cut and paste instead of replying to his hot air.
> But I don't usually allow his type to get the last word.
>
> "For us there are only two possibilities: either we remain German or
> we come under the thumb of the Jews. This latter must not occur; even
> if we are small, we are a force. A well-organized group can conquer a
> strong enemy. If you stick close together and keep bringing in new
> people, we will be victorious over the Jews."
>
> Adolf Hitler
> SPEECH OF NOVEMBER 9, 1921

Now *there's* something you don't see every day...

Pip

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"neptune3" <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<Snips the vomit>

Clueless aren't you? I figured it would be over your head. Should I find a
"Bo-Ling" to interpret it for you Nazi boy?


r

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Apr 12, 2004, 5:17:55 PM4/12/04
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Ty wrote:

<snip interesting comments and the Indian performance issue>

> If I am correct, then the implications for culture and its influence on
> intelligence are obvious. If culture A tends to value learning and culture B
> tends to devalue learning, then one would expect the citizens of culture A
> to know more.

How easy it is to mistake clear reasoning for correct reasoning, but
neither can be identified when you use imprecise terms and poorly worded
comparisons, never mind meaningless conclusions. Let me rephrase that for
you:

- - If you are correct and culture A tends to value academic learning and
culture B tends to value academic learning relatively less than culture
A, then one could expect that the children of culture A to do better in
tests to measure knowledge of academic subjects than the children of
culture B.- -

However, inferring that they "know more" is a huge jump. I've known guys
with no third level education walk into a bar and within five minutes
looking around they've sussed the players, the dealers, the whores, the
spectators and the punters. Very few academically educated people can
match their abilities.

Let's see if we can work out why, ceteris paribus.

Learning imparts information. Discussion and analysis help develop the
tools with which we assimilate learning. Challenge and debate help us
develop our opinions based on assimilated learning. Knowledge is based on
these opinions. While I accept that "Proper Planning Prevents Poor
Performance", it is determination, more than any other factor [including
past learning] that determines success in any field of endeavor. Given
that children from poorer familes get many opportunities to develop their
determination abilities in adversity, they are not lacking in that
department, so let's move on.

It follows also that the children of culture A only get a head start in
terms of learned academic information and possibly have a body of
academic information retained. There is a distinction there.

The fruits of a culture that fosters cramming for exams is a known
weakness of exam based learning environments. People with good short-term
memory have a better chance that those who do not. That means they do
well in exams, not necessarily in those fields of professional endeavour
that their exams entitle them to practise in. For that, long-term
retention and a good depth of interrelational knowledge is required.

Long term retention involves learning how to learn and most third level
colleges don't teach this and no school I know of in the lover levels
teaches this. It is the elephant in the room syndrome. What do most
schools fail to teach? How to learn. Children learn how to learn in years
1-5. People who learn to learn often do so by way of having read a lot by
themselves in these formative years. Learning to read well often requires
motivation and encouragement from family members.

Please note the differences shown above between the different bodies of
learning, whether academic or street smart, short-term or long-term
retention, exam based or life based, book-learnt or discussed and
debated.

If you're growing up in a large family, say ten children, of limited
means in a cramped living quarters you have a very poor chance of
developing your learning techniques by yourself. Privacy and
concentration are elusive and parental approval for such a long return on
the financial investment if unlikely. Continuing second-level or
third-level academic learning is not merely weighted against you, it is
virtually closed to you. By your family conditions.

If your culture is made up of young teens who work to get themselves
material possession and also help support their family, and you identify
with this peer group, again, continuing second-level or third-level
academic learning is not merely weighted against you, it is virtually
closed to you. By yourself.

Its not that if you wanted to you couldn't get a place, particularly with
all the affirmative actions programs, its just not what you want to do.
You are more likely to *want* material possessions [money, cars, sexual
partners] and to seek apprentice work or a trade early in order to obtain
these early in life.

If you are growing up in a small family, perhaps and only child, some
financial means but not very wealthy, academic learning is the natural
progression if you want to gain advancement. You will often have few
problems gaining privacy and parental approval support for your studies.

If your culture is mixed, with some people learning a craft of trade or
the arts and some going to third level, there are challenges and
distractions certainly, but again, the way to continuing second-level or
third-level education is there for you.

Individual genetic inheritance from one's parents as well as the leveling
drift of the "race" you belong to in general matter far less ceteris
paribus, than parental and social encouragement, together with a home
situation where a reading/self-learning environment can take root and be
fostered.

If the mental furniture to allow learning is not developed in the
formative 1-5 year range, I believe that it, like learnign how to talk,
cannot simply be "tacked on" with affirmative action later on in groups
situations.

Its not the racial characteristics that matter per se. Its the mental
linkages that are created in the brain by a varied and stimulating
environment in the first five formative years, stimulation which is
absolutely necessary to produce the inner development and complex brain
linkages that allow us to learn language, to learn to learn, to learn to
discuss and debate ideas, to learn to remember necessary facts while
discarding others.

This requires personal interaction and talking as much as games and
physical play, visual and aural puzzles as well as logical tracks to be
followed, personal development and determination allied to sight of
and/or personal contact with positive role models to develop a sense of
self-worth.

It follows that, cutting across race and ethnic and religious lines,
someone from a poor, large family living in cramped accommodation has far
less of an opportunity to develop the mental tools with which to learn.

It also follows that, with specific reference to a large population and
speaking in statistical terms only, this disadvantage will not be
effectively countered by affirmative action.

It is also fairly definite that, in general a troubled home life arising
from drug or alcohol abuse, marital infidelity with physical or sexual
abuse involved, will produce even worse results, due to the poor self
image and emotional insecutiry produce in children from such an
envoronment. In this situation, smaller family sizes can actually worsen
the situation.

To conclude, family conditions as well a cultural conditions need to be
within a certain range to create optimum conditions both for learning and
positive personal development, whatever the racial or ethnic background.

Previous comments about the success of Indian Asians in educational
establishments ignore at their peril the motivational impetus of the
patriarchial family structure, respect for financial achievement and
strict social mores impressed on Indian Asians from a young age.

Only the Jewish culture would appear to match or exceed it.

To conclude:

(i) a woman like Condoleeza Rice didn't just jump out of an affirmative
action program.

(ii) posting "If culture A tends to value learning and culture B tends


to devalue learning, then one would expect the citizens of culture A to

know more" sheds only a very dim light on this very complex situation.

M.

Een Wilde Ier

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Flame of the West wrote:
> neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:
>
>
>>>Your posts have saved me doing a lot of research.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>Welcome?
>>
>> So what are you trying to say?
>
>
> Next time O'Neill wants to pull out an example of whacko
> racism, he'll just point to your post. You explained your
> points clearly and were upfront about your conclusions.
> That's why your posts make such an excellent example.
> Previous posters of your persuasion couldn't even spell
> correctly.

<snigger>

Een Wilde Ier

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Flame of the West wrote:
> Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<40766F10...@indigo.ie>...
>
>
>>The really sad fact is that the black American has a rich heritage of
>>culture and tradition to draw on and most have turned away from all that
>>to the WHite Man's values;-
>>
>>Property.
>>Money.
>>Power.
>>Cadillacs.
>>SUV's.
>>Drugs.
>>Alcohol.
>
>
> Ironic coming from you, given that the Irish have a rich heritage of
> culture and tradition to draw on and most have turned away from all that
> to the Englishman's values;-
>
> Secularism.
> Capitalism.
> Hedonism.

All beamed directly into Dublin homes courtesy of Mr. Conservative
Patron himself, Rupert Murdoch. (Does Bill O'Reilly know about his
employer's unsavoury credentials?)

> Heck, you've even ditched your own language to speak like the English.

And your own roots are...? ;-)

neptune3

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If you roll two dice the chances of the total adding up to 7 are
one out of six. If you roll the dice only once that is only an
interesting curiosity. You don't know if they are going to add up to 7
or not. The odds are not an indicator of anything in the real world.
But lets say you roll the dice a thousand times. Then the number of
times they added up to 7 will be almost exactly one out of every six.
You can count on the odds to be a real indicator in the real world.
The question about Blacks is not "Do you like Black people?" Most
Whites like Blacks unless they have been in prison with Blacks or
something like that. We all work with Black people and we can see that
these Blacks are nice people. I am not so sure about the ones without
jobs. But I might be angry too if I were like that, and the media
encourages Blacks to blame their problems on the Whites.
So judging Blacks as individuals is not the question. This real
question is "Do you want to live in a Black neighborhood?" Whites who
have seen Black neighborhoods would answer "No" unless they have a
severe case of the mental disease known as liberalism. I live in a
nice White neighborhood. If I drive to where a lot of Black people are
I see run down buildings and buildings with metal bars over the
windows. It is the same thing all over America. In New York the bad
area is Harlem. When they say "inner city" they mean the Black area
and Whites don't want to be there, especially at night.
White nationalists are groups of White people who say that they
want to live in White neighborhoods. We don't wish any harm on the
Blacks and we hope the Black neighborhoods or nations will be as good
as they can be. But we are for preserving our race and our culture and
for having a nation for our people.

>
>3. I'm no biologist or psychologist, but it seems to me that there are
>*many* environmental factors that profoundly affect intelligence. When I
>earned by teaching certification in the early 1990s, I took a course in
>Educational Psychology. One thing I recall was a study that found that while
>1st and 2nd generation Asians tend to score higher on standardized tests,
>3rd generation Asians tended to score about the same as Whites --
>acculturation perhaps? And if this is still the case, it argues against an
>entirely biological racial explanation. And as a school teacher, I can
>assure you that parental interest and involvement are the most profound
>influence on a child's success in the classroom. The factors could simply
>appear more or less frequently in certain cultures.
>
>4. It would appear to me that "race" must be a somewhat slippery concept, at
>least in biological terms. How much "black" ancestry is required before you
>are biologically "black"? It is also clear to me that the terms are not
>consistently applied between so-called "races". In many cases, the term is a
>cultural identifier -- i.e., "hispanics", who may have more European
>ancestry than many "whites". Yet in other cases, the term is something of a
>biological identifier -- "blacks" or "orientals" (I would call them Asians,
>except that there are many Asians -- Indians for instance -- who lack the
>features of what we call Asians). And so on. For this reason, I am inclined
>to believe that the explanation for the differences are largely cultural
>rather than biological. However, I would note that many PC people find the
>notion that culture can profoundly influence performance as offensive as the
>notion that race could exert such an influence.

After going on about how fair and reasonable he is, he comes to the
same conclusion as his TV, movies and schools. Look at Africa. Look at
Europe. Race makes a big difference, and Whites invented the cars, the
planes, etc, etc, just about everything.

>
>5. In a pluralistic democratic society, a race based explanation for lower
>intelligence will have profoundly negative implications for the society.

That is why we should not have a pluralistic society.

>Therefore, I think that one should be particularly reluctant to embrace such
>an explanation, unless the evidence strongly supports it. Note that I am not
>saying we shouldn't study the problem from a racial angle. I am merely
>saying that the negative implications of such a conclusion are for us to be
>*very* sure before we embrace it.
>
>

>Here's an interesting little stunt that I came across in my afore-mentioned
>teacher's education. Many on the left who argue for increased social funding
>for hispanics have a little problem. Seems that Cuban Americans tend to
>perform far higher across the board than other hispanic subgroups. So some
>studies *exclude* them from the defnition of "hispanic"...
>

>Well, the good news is that after 2 generations of McDonald's, MTV, video


>games, etc., the Asians will be right back down among the white folks. :-)
>
>I am personally rather amused that some folks can't understand that the more
>effort you put into something usually increases your ability at it. So if a
>child spends most of his time on education and knowledge enhancement, it
>should shock no one that he will probably be smarter and better educated
>than a child with equal talent who spends all his time lifting weights. Of
>course, the second child will probable be a whole lot stronger than the
>first one.

In the same way liberals would say that cheetahs may not be faster
than the other cats. Maybe the other cats just don't practice running
as much.

If the excuse is that Blacks don't read enough than why not? What
was stopping the Blacks from building universities in Africa?

>
>If I am correct, then the implications for culture and its influence on
>intelligence are obvious. If culture A tends to value learning and culture B
>tends to devalue learning, then one would expect the citizens of culture A
>to know more.
>

Just having different cultures would be enough reason for having a
White nation.

Michael O'Neill

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Flame of the West wrote:
>
> Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<407681C0...@indigo.ie>...
>
> > I don'tagree with the webmaster in this case. I think Dubya was being as
> > brutally honest as only he can be.
> >
> > A free Iraq would definitely be a major defeat in the cause of American
> > Freedom - Iraq might price its oil in Euros again, as it did when Saddam
> > was still in power in November 2000 and THEN where would the dollar go?
>
> As the months go by, you get more and more panaroid and become willing
> to believe more and more outrageous things.

The pricing of Iraq's Oil in PetroEuros is a fact, AFAICS. You might not
like to face it [plus ca change] but its not so easily denied as all
that; -
===========================================

Brethour, Patrick, "OPEC mulls move to euro for pricing
crude oil," The Globe And Mail, January 12, 2004

Ahmed, Nafeez M., "Behind the War on Terror: Western Secret Strategy and
the Struggle for Iraq," New Society Publishers (2003)

"Behind the Iraq Invasion," Aspects of India's Economy, Nos. 33&34,
December 2002

Cooper, Peter J, "Forget about the price of oil, what about the euro?,"
AME info.com October 14, 2000

"ECB blasts Bush economy," Eupolitix.com, October 30, 2003

Engdahl, F. William, "A New American Century? Iraq and th hidden
euro-dollar wars," Current Concerns, No 4, June 2003

Hentoff, Nat, The War on the Bill of Rights and the Gathering
Resistance," Seven Stories Press, 2003

Isbell, Paul, "The Shifting Geopolitics of the Euro," Elcano Royal
Institute, September 23, 2002

Islam, Faisal, "When will we buy oil in euros? When it comes to the
global oil trade, the dollar reigns supreme. But it has a challenger,
writes Faisal Islam,' The Observer, February 23, 2003

===========================================

> > Would America have to invade again?
> >
> > Oh, but America won't have to.
> >
> > The American bases are permanent.
>
> Only if the sovereign Iraqi government wants them. When we are asked to
> leave (such as in the Philippines), we do, even when we think the request
> unwise.
>
> Besides, how does a few bases stop the Iraqis from doing something we
> don't like? Are we going to march out and overthrow the elected
> government if it goes with the Euro?

Yep.

> Having American bases hasn't
> stopped the Germans from doing what they want.

Correct. It would look very bad if America udecided ot invade Europe
right now. Besides, you'd have the IRA and ETA to worry about then, too,
REAL TERRORISTS, and let's face it, you've enough to worry about.

> Try to get a grip on your anti-American hysteria.

If I'm hysterical, include most of the world.

Its known as a prelude to war.

> And if you reply to
> this, please keep it G-rated.

<snicker>

Afraid I might ignore you, O Fart of the Dubya?

> There's no need for insults or profanity.

I realise swear words of more than four letters affect your infestation
of sarcoptic mange mites, just scratch harder...

Luckily for us both, "fart" is only a four letter word, known to even
"sheltered" American children.

Odd that a guy who lives in a civilization whose secret service imports
hard drugs for vending to "unsheltered" American children should be
worried about profanity.

Methinks thou doth protest to much...

M.

Ty

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<snip>

Are you always so pissy, or were you being so especially for me?

*plonk*


bobbyhaqq

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How can one add to such an excellent point.

I would point to time I spent in the mountains of Nepal, with people
who have no formal education. They could not read maps, and had no
sound concepts of directions even. I had showed a police officer a
compass and it was clear they had no idea at all what it could
possibly indicate.

These very people have outstanding intellectual abilities. Their
memories were able to hold many times more than we with our cellphones
and notebooks could ever hope to. My guide, who could niether read or
write nor been to school, had memorized not only hundreds of different
path ways covering hundreds of kilometers, he knew the names of
hundreds of villages along the way, memorizing long songs which placed
these places in an order few Americans could ever hope to master. He
knew the names of thousands and thousands of people in the villages,
and could generally predict the weather days in advance.

And when it came to resourcefullness. He could get a charge out of a
dead battery by leaving it in the light or heating it over a fire, he
could get shoes and socks dry in snowy conditions with a match. He
could pack up any bag, he knew everything that could be eaten, he knew
the castes of almost every village we passed and could tell which
guides had come before by looking at their shoe prints in the dust.

Frankly speaking the advance of our technology culture has generally
made us dumber. In America and Western Europe today most people are
coach potatoes, they watch stupid pointless TV shows without any
usefull information, they go to dull routine jobs the perform tasks as
they are told. Modern man lacks a fraction of the skill and inginuity
of our stone age ancestors

What a human must have known 10,000 years ago, about prey, enemies,
territories, seasons, medicines, compared to what the average joe
knows today is frankly depressing.

Certainly we have a tiny minority who have used the great technology
and knowledge to see more. We have concepts ideas like black holes,
big bangs, dark energy, relativity, Plato, Confucious, Mohammed, the
Vedas, Operas, Shakespear, Dante, Freud; and what is the average
America doing tonight? Watching the latest reality TV show.


r <r...@tw.kr> wrote in message news:<407B0783...@indigo.ie>...

bobbyhaqq

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> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:32:06 -0500, "Ty" <tbear...@tyler.net> wrote:

> >2. The variation between individuals is tremendous, so the observation that
> >one group on average scores lower than another group isn't very useful in
> >evaluating individuals.
>
> If you roll two dice the chances of the total adding up to 7 are
> one out of six. If you roll the dice only once that is only an
> interesting curiosity. You don't know if they are going to add up to 7
> or not. The odds are not an indicator of anything in the real world.
> But lets say you roll the dice a thousand times. Then the number of
> times they added up to 7 will be almost exactly one out of every six.
> You can count on the odds to be a real indicator in the real world.

His point is about variation. Dice are a bad example since all
outcomes are equally likely.

As to intellectual ability as covered by tests human populations
generally follow in to a bell curve, which looks kind of like a hill
with the mean, mode, and median converging and symmetry on both sides.

Two populations might have a slightly different mean average, but the
deviation cover almost the same territory.

For example a population 1 may have a mean reading score of say 15 on
some test, another group might have 17. Thats all nice but in the
lower group variations will mean that almost the same number are two
standard deviations away from the mean as in the other group, and
though the average is lower in one a large minority of that group will
still test higher than the average in the other population. Sometimes
the difference is that in one goup 50% score above a certain point
while in another 48% do so.



> The question about Blacks is not "Do you like Black people?" Most
> Whites like Blacks unless they have been in prison with Blacks or
> something like that. We all work with Black people and we can see that
> these Blacks are nice people. I am not so sure about the ones without
> jobs. But I might be angry too if I were like that, and the media
> encourages Blacks to blame their problems on the Whites.
> So judging Blacks as individuals is not the question. This real
> question is "Do you want to live in a Black neighborhood?" Whites who
> have seen Black neighborhoods would answer "No" unless they have a
> severe case of the mental disease known as liberalism.


I went to college and lived in a black areas of Chicago for 4 years,
than moved to another an lived their very happily for 3 years. Both
were nice areas and my main complaint was that they were too quite at
night and not enough fun.

You sir are a fascist fuck though.

neptune3

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wrote:


>His point is about variation. Dice are a bad example since all
>outcomes are equally likely.
>
>As to intellectual ability as covered by tests human populations
>generally follow in to a bell curve, which looks kind of like a hill
>with the mean, mode, and median converging and symmetry on both sides.
>
>Two populations might have a slightly different mean average, but the
>deviation cover almost the same territory.
>
>For example a population 1 may have a mean reading score of say 15 on
>some test, another group might have 17. Thats all nice but in the
>lower group variations will mean that almost the same number are two
>standard deviations away from the mean as in the other group, and
>though the average is lower in one a large minority of that group will
>still test higher than the average in the other population. Sometimes
>the difference is that in one goup 50% score above a certain point
>while in another 48% do so.
>
>

>I went to college and lived in a black areas of Chicago for 4 years,
>than moved to another an lived their very happily for 3 years. Both
>were nice areas and my main complaint was that they were too quite at
>night and not enough fun.
>

Safest / Most Dangerous Cities and Percentage of Blacks

Safest Cities (75,000 or more) per
http://advertisers.americancityandcounty.com/ar/government_amherst_ny_tops/

1. Amherst, N.Y 3.9%
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popInfo.php?locIndex=91

2. Newton, Mass. 2.0%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Newton-Massachusetts.html

3. Mission Viejo, Calif. 1.1%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Mission-Viejo-California.html

4. Cary, N.C. 6.1%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Cary-North-Carolina.html

5. Brick Township, N.J. (Less than 1% as computed by dividing 75,325
population into 751 blacks)
http://www.co.ocean.nj.us/planning/databook/09RACE2000.htm

6. Simi Valley, Calif. 1.3%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Simi-Valley-California.html

7. Sunnyvale, Calif. 2.2%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Sunnyvale-California.html

8. Colonie, N.Y. 3.5%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Colonie-New-York.html

9. Sterling Heights, Mich. 1.3%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Sterling-Heights-Michigan.html

10. Clarkstown, N.Y 7.9%
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popInfo.php?locIndex=409
____________________

Most Dangerous Cities (75,000 or more) per
http://advertisers.americancityandcounty.com/ar/government_amherst_ny_tops/

1. Detroit 81.6%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Detroit-Michigan.html

2. Atlanta 61.4%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Atlanta-Georgia.html

3. St. Louis 51.2%
http://www.city-data.com/city/St.-Louis-Missouri.html

4. Baltimore 64.3%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Baltimore-Maryland.html

5. Gary, Ind. 84.0%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Gary-Indiana.html

6. Camden, N.J. 53.3%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Camden-New-Jersey.html

7. Tampa 26.1%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Tampa-Florida.html

8. West Palm Beach, Fla. 32.2%
http://www.city-data.com/city/West-Palm-Beach-Florida.html

9. Compton, Calif. 40.3% (White non-Hispanic 1.0%)
http://www.city-data.com/city/Compton-California.html

10. Memphis, Tenn. 61.4%
http://www.city-data.com/city/Memphis-Tennessee.html

BroJack

>You sir are a fascist fuck though.

Here are parts of a post about Mussolini written by a very
anti-Mussolini person. He has done his homework though and cites many
book which are also anti-Mussolini and anti-Fascist. These are some
things they admit:

>http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=4087
>Left-wing Fascism: An Intellectual Disorder
>By John J. Ray

(Quotes from Mussolini)

"Fascism has taken up an attitude of complete opposition to the
doctrines of
Liberalism, both in the political field and in the field of
economics".

"Fascism now and always believes in holiness and in heroism; that is
to say
in actions influenced by no economic motive"

"Laissez faire is out of date"

"Our programme is simple. We want to rule Italy".

"He had a profound contempt for those whose overriding ambition was to
be
rich. It was a mania, he thought, a kind of disease, and he comforted
himself with the reflection that the rich were rarely happy"
Here Hibbert (1962, p. 47) is describing a lifelong attitude of
Mussolini
that continued right into his time as Italy's Prime Minister - when he
refused to take his official salary.

"There was much truth in the comment of a Rome newspaper that the new
fasci
did not aim at the defence of the ruling class or the existing State
but
wanted to lead the revolutionary forces into the Nationalist camp so
as to
prevent a victory of Bolshevism.

even after coming
to power, to take drives in the country with his wife and stop at
various
farmhouses on the way for a chat with the family there. He would enjoy
discussing the crops, the weather and all the usual rural topics and
obviously just liked the feeling of being one of the people. His claim
to
represent the people was not just theory but heartfelt. And he never
gave up
his "anti-bourgeois" rhetoric.

His policies were basically protectionist. He
controlled the exchange-rate of the Italian currency and promoted that
old
favourite of the economically illiterate - autarky - meaning that he
tried
to get Italy to become wholly self-sufficient rather than rely on
foreign
trade. He wanted to protect Italian products from competing foreign
products.

By 1939 he had doubled Italy's grain
production from its traditional level, enabling Italy to cut wheat
imports
by 75% (Smith, 1967, p. 92).

He made Capri a bird sanctuary (Smith, 1967, p. 84) and
in 1926 he issued a decree reducing the size of newspapers to save
wood
pulp. And, believe it or not, he even mandated gasohol - i.e. mixing
industrial alcohol with petroleum products to make fuel for cars
(Smith,
1967, p. 87). Mussolini also disliked the population drift from rural
areas
into the big cities and in 1930 passed a law to put a stop to it
unless
official permission was granted

he advocated private enterprise within
a strict set of State controls designed, among other things, to
prevent
abuse of monopoly power (Gregor, 1979, Ch. 5).

Some other clearly Leftist initiatives that Mussolini took were a big
expansion of public works and a great improvement in social insurance
measures. He also set up the "Dopolavoro" (after work) organization to
give
workers cheap recreations of various kinds (cf. the Nazi Kraft durch
Freude
movement). His public health measures (such as the attack on
tuberculosis
and the setting up of a huge maternal and child welfare organization)
were
particularly notable for their rationality and efficiency and, as
such, were
rewarded with great success. For instance, the incidence of
tuberculosis
dropped dramatically and infant mortality declined by more than 20%
(Gregor,
p. 259). Together with big improvements in education and public
infrastructure, such measures gave Fascist Italy what was arguably the
most
advanced welfare State in the world at the time.
And if influential American "liberal" economists such as Galbraith
(1969)
can bemoan the low level of spending on public works as "private
affluence
and public squalor", Mussolini was well ahead on that. As Hibbert
(1962, p.
56) says, Mussolini
"instituted a programme of public works hitherto unrivalled in modern
Europe. Bridges, canals and roads were built, hospitals and schools,
railway
stations and orphanages, swamps were drained and land reclaimed,
forest were
planted and universities were endowed."

In 1929 Mussolini and Pope Pius
12th signed the Lateran treaty - which is still the legal basis for
the
existence of the Vatican State to this day - and Pius in fact at one
stage
called Mussolini "the man sent by Providence". The treaty recognized
Roman
Catholicism as the Italian State religion as well as recognizing the
Vatican
as a sovereign state. What Mussolini got in exchange was acceptance by
the
church - something that was enormously important in the Italy of that
time.

the great hatred that existed in prewar
Germany between the Nazis and the "Reds". And the early Fascists
battled the
"Reds" too, of course.

The 1919 election
manifesto, for instance, contained policies of worker control of
industry,
confiscation of war profits, abolition of the Stock exchange, land for
the
peasants and abolition of the Monarchy and nobility. Further,
Mussolini
never ceased to inveigh against "plutocrats".

He wanted a harmonious and united
Italy for all Italians of all classes and was sure that achieving just
treatment for the workers needed neither revolution nor any kind of
artificially enforced equality.

This made Italian Fascism a much more popular creed than Stalin's
Communism. This
is perhaps most clearly seen by the always persuasive "voting with
your
feet" criterion. Mussolini made no effort to prevent Italians from
emigrating and although some anti-Fascists did, net emigration
actually FELL
under Mussolini. Compare this with Stalin and the Berlin wall.

Mussolini gained
power through political rather than revolutionary means. His famous
march on
Rome was only superficially revolutionary. The King of Italy and the
army
approved of him because of his pragmatic policies so did not oppose
the
march. So this collusion ensured that Mussolini's "revolution" was
essentially bloodless.

His considerable popularity for many years among a wide
range of Italians shows how effective his recipe for achieving that
was.

In his "corporate state", Mussolini was the first to create that very
modern
phenomenon constantly now being advocated by Leftists everywhere - a
system
of capitalism under tight government control. And his corporate state
was
one where the workers had (at least in theory) equal rights with
management.

REFERENCES Amis, M. (2002) Koba the Dread : laughter and the twenty
million.
N.Y.: Talk Miramax
Carsten, F.L. (1967) The rise of Fascism. London: Methuen.
Funk & Wagnall's New Encyclopedia (1983) Funk & Wagnall's
Galbraith, J.K. (1969) The affluent society. 2nd ed. Boston: Houghton
Mifflin.
Gilmour, I.H.J.L. (1978) Inside right. London: Quartet.
Greene, N. (1968) Fascism: An anthology. N.Y.: Crowell.
Gregor, A.J. (1979) Italian Fascism and developmental dictatorship
Princeton, N.J.: Univ. Press.
Hagan, J. (1966) Modern History and its themes. Croydon, Victoria,
Australia: Longmans.
Hibbert, C. (1962) Benito Mussolini Geneva: Heron Books. Herzer, I.
(1989)
The Italian refuge: Rescue of Jews during the holocaust. Washington,
D.C.:
Catholic University of America Press
Horowitz, D. (1998) Up from multiculturalism. Heterodoxy, January.
See:
http://www.cspc.org/het/multicul.htm
Lenin, V.I. (1952) "Left-Wing" Communism, an Infantile Disorder. In:
Selected Works, Vol. II, Part 2. Moscow: Foreign Languages Publishing
House.
Martino, A. (1998) The modern mask of socialism. 15th John Bonython
lecture,
Centre for Independent Studies, Sydney. See
http://www.cis.org.au/Events/JBL/JBL98.htm
Muravchik, J. (2002) Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism
San
Francisco: Encounter Books.
Smith, D.M. (1967) The theory and practice of Fascism. In: Greene, N.
Fascism: An anthology N.Y.: Crowell.
Steinberg, J. (1990) All or nothing: The Axis and the holocaust
London:
Routledge.

Inna from Ukraine

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without going far with details, I sincerely believe if there is a
universal enemy, but it is against all humans all together, so it is
not a human enemy against humans. yes it may take a form of humans!
go figure then how to deal with it!

Inna, guide-interpreter in Ukraine.

bobbyhaqq

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> Safest / Most Dangerous Cities and Percentage of Blacks
>

Though I frankly can't understand why I respond to you, here it goes.

In American black people are poor. They encounter massive prejudices.
White people are afraid of them, white police will pull them over,
they always experience higher unemployment. In America its tough to
be black, especially a black male. You more likely to go to jail if
charged in court with the same evidence, your more likely to lose a
job, etc, etc.

America remains a deeply racist society with blacks and hispanics
generally restricted to a lower caste. For this reason poor blacks
often find themselves segregated in to some of the worst communities
in the nation, where they are the victims of high crime.

Its fairly simple, in Ameirca blacks are more likely to be poor than
whites. Why? Well let me ask you, would you want to be born black in
America? Myself I have seen how whites treat blacks and would take a
pass. Poor people live in poor areas, and in the case of blacks
generally a couple families moving in to an area is followed by a
white flight which leaves the real estate and local economy in chaos.

I would also take issue with offical crime reports. I used to be a
social worker in Chicago and everyone knows the highest crime rates
are in Chinatowns, its only they never go to the police. Areas with
lots of white blue collar crime in the traditional mofia model seem
much safer than they are.

In my own life I had $100 dollars lifted from me by a black male pick
pocket, and a car radio stolden in a black area, though there were
many asians and hispanics as well. Certainly poor black areas are
rift with low level crime.

But in business I have had nice white people try to pull contrat
violations against my company for almost $20,000 in three years. I
have had to retain a lawyer on four times to get monies paid us for
work we preformed and had to eat a $12,000 contract violation because
the case was too complex.

My years doing business with nice white people have not impressed me
as to their honesty or love of law. Of course none of these crimes
are reported to the police. For example 2 years ago a scum fuck lied
to my firm each and every month about his long term plans with out
product. Because of our understanding with him we kept a full time
contracter with the fuck. At the end of the day it turned out that he
had repeated lied to us about budget and his plans just to get a small
part of work done, and then cancelled our contract. He had even had
his secretary sign several contracts and than fired her claiming she
never had his approval.

Oh yah, and that reminds me. Recently a friend of mine rented a very
expensive apartment. The nice white real estate agents told him it
was a wonderful place. Turned out that he lived under a mentally
retarded man who had two terrible drunks living off him. He was kept
up nightly hearing violent fights and screaming. When he asked the
people around the building they said it had gone on for years and many
people had left that apartment. He moved out and he and I wrote about
10 letter to regulators, police, and the entire management of the
renters to insure it would not happen again.

Shit there are a lot of scum bag white people. Humans are generally
creul, indifferent, greedy fucks. Just look at the way nice educatied
culture white CEO have recently treated their staffs.

neptune3

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On 14 Apr 2004 21:41:34 -0700, rhook...@hotmail.com (bobbyhaqq)
wrote:

>
>Though I frankly can't understand why I respond to you, here it goes.
>
>In American black people are poor. They encounter massive prejudices.
> White people are afraid of them, white police will pull them over,

If police pull them over its because they are suspected of
something. The criminals kill people and do other sickening things.
And Blacks gripe about getting pulled over? Don't they know that they
are the race that does most of the crime? We definately should have
nations for White people and have Blacks live someplace else.

>they always experience higher unemployment. In America its tough to
>be black, especially a black male. You more likely to go to jail if
>charged in court with the same evidence, your more likely to lose a
>job, etc, etc.

Everything in America is for women and minorities. Blacks are poor
on average because they are on average much less intelligent than
Whites. There are also other problems though, such as capitalism.

>
>America remains a deeply racist society with blacks and hispanics
>generally restricted to a lower caste. For this reason poor blacks
>often find themselves segregated in to some of the worst communities
>in the nation, where they are the victims of high crime.

The only racism going on is the one against White people. Blacks are
poor because they are on average less intelligent.

I don't argue that Whites are nicer than Blacks on average. I argue
that they are more intelligent.

neptune3

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wrote:


>
>without going far with details, I sincerely believe if there is a
>universal enemy, but it is against all humans all together, so it is
>not a human enemy against humans. yes it may take a form of humans!
>go figure then how to deal with it!
>
>Inna, guide-interpreter in Ukraine.

You must be talking about the devil. It does seem like Bush and
Sharon are connected to an entity like that.

Michael O'Neill

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neptune3 wrote:

<snip>

> In the same way liberals would say that cheetahs may not be faster
> than the other cats. Maybe the other cats just don't practice running
> as much.

Ehrm, nope. liberals would say that the other cats *choose* not to run as
fast ["practice running" = wolly thinking on your part - lions, like most
big cats can run down a zebra - given the right conditions].

They way you put it defines an empiricist fascist geneticist at work,
failing to understand that evolution operates on the population as a
whole over time, not creating ultra vires changes on an individual per se
for the convenience of observers operating within a human lifetime.

> If the excuse is that Blacks don't read enough than why not? What
> was stopping the Blacks from building universities in Africa?

<snip>

Its a little thing called the Oral Tradition.

Lumped in with other "stone age" peoples like the aborigines an dnative
American Indians, many black cultures had an oral transmission of
history, futher eleborated and celebrated in myth paintings and dances
and artwork and sculptures.

You see, living in a warm climate with plenty of game, willing sexual
partners, good skin, bones, teeth and bodies, they didn't have too much
time for writing and reading. They were too busy living.

Of course where "civilization" has taken hold, blacks show their quick
aptitudes in all things.

Nigerians, for example, are fast catching up to the caucasians in every
department and having been in close contact with Big Oil for many decades
now, know all the scams and then some - ref. the internet scam where the
sender needs your account to hide USD 20 M if you could help him organize
the money out of Africa by sending 100,000 poste-haste he'll let you have
25%. So some writing skills are needed to send the e-mails, as well as
button-pushing skills to work the 'puter.

Again, in Nigeria, looting of Apartment blocks is a growth industry. Not
your haphazard white drug-user stule looting, but an organized armed
campaign based on nomadic tradition. Notices are sent to the apartment
dwellers to have money or valuables ready to be stolen or the forfeit is
death, rape or worse - or else leave the apartment. Its a growth
industry. So some writing skills are needed to write the notices.

But of course, this is still the black man doing his own dirty work,
taking pride in his own accomplishments and risking his health and
livelihood every time he goes out the door with his Kalishnikov.

[Africans take a certaim pride in personal competition in feats of
strength and endurance, intellect and guile, and the telling of stories
relating the personal conquest of enemies. Very Irish, in fact.]

Because of this shortcoming, the reliance on personal ability to advance
self-esteem, blacks are nowhere as advanced as the oligarchic white folks
who for centuries have learnt to use others to do their dirty work and
claim the credit themselves.

These whiter-than-white élite deviants not only don't do any of their
killing themselves, they get other governments of other countries to kill
on a massive scale, using weapons they've already sold to them.

Indonesia and East Timor, for example. The éliet deviant white man at
work.

http://www.namebase.org/books80.html
http://www.namebase.org/scott.html
http://www.namebase.org/kadane.html
http://www.namebase.org/foia/indolist.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB62/

You see, the élite deviant white man kills so many people he needs the
writing skills to compile the lists. And he teaches these writing skills
to the people he uses to kill his enemies so they can read the lists.

Thus the élite deviant white man is reaponsibile for spreading literacy
and weapons training throughout the third world.

FWIW

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Inna from Ukraine wrote:

<snip>

> without going far with details,
> I sincerely believe if there is a
> universal enemy, but it is against
> all humans all together, so it is
> not a human enemy against humans.
> yes it may take a form of humans!
> go figure then how to deal with it!

> Inna, guide-interpreter in Ukraine.

I think it is time we stopped externalising our demons.

When you hear the child scream in the night, when the woman cries, when
the man dies, when the torturers and rapists and murderers laugh, when
the armies march - it is us, only us.

We do these things to ourselves.

We are the only species that preys on itself to stay sharp.

We are the ultimate predator.

And all these things, these horrors, and all our social mores and all our
laws and all our self-deceptions and all our lies and indulgences and all
our works of beauty and all our works of art and all our social groupings
and all our feel-good moments are mere distractions.

They are there to stop us realising our full potential.

We will express this potential in one of two ways.

We will get off this planet or destroy it.

M.

Michael O'Neill

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An Extract from:

====================================================

http://counterpunch.org/madsen04082004.html

Rice (and the Record) Proves It

Bush Knew, But Failed to Act

By WAYNE MADSEN

Condoleezza Rice's testimony before the 911 Commission on April 8
provided yet more proof that the Bush administration and some within the
intelligence community were aware before 911 of specific domestic
terrorist threats by Al Qaeda cells operating within the United States.

Many of those who watched Bush's impassive reaction on television the
morning of 911 to being told by his Chief of Staff Andy Card during a
visit to the Emma Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida that two
planes had struck the World Trade Center towers were genuinely puzzled by
the president's unusual facial response. The 911 Commission hearings may
have stumbled on to the reason for the ho hum reaction -- that the
attacks came as no real surprise to Bush. In fact, in answer to a
question by Richard Ben Veniste, the former Watergate committee counsel,
Rice confirmed that the August 6, 2001, President's Daily Brief (PDB),
which the White House had steadfastly refused to release to either the
Commission of the public, was titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack
Inside the United States.''

====================================================

As usual, the water doesn't penetrate too deeply.

The people behind Bush knew, and had already acted.

Bush, their puppet, had nothing to say and didn't need to act, just sit
tight and ride it out.

"That's one terrible pilot" was his reported thought at the time.

Yeah, right.

M.

Hashemon Urtasman

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Michael O'Neill wrote:
> neptune3 wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> In the same way liberals would say that cheetahs may not be faster
>>than the other cats. Maybe the other cats just don't practice running
>>as much.
>
>
> Ehrm, nope. liberals would say that the other cats *choose* not to run as
> fast ["practice running" = wolly thinking on your part - lions, like most
> big cats can run down a zebra - given the right conditions].
>

Or how about 'a liberal would point out that a gazella can run faster
than a cheetah or a lion, but the conservative would point out that it's
better to be a part of a superior species like a cheetah or a lion--the
king of the jungle, than to be a part of the herd.'

> They way you put it defines an empiricist fascist geneticist at work,
> failing to understand that evolution operates on the population as a
> whole over time, not creating ultra vires changes on an individual per se
> for the convenience of observers operating within a human lifetime.
>

I think "Genetic fascist" is a good term to describe people who hold the
attitude that predators own or dominate their prey. There is no such
"ruler-subject" relationship at all in reality, but this is just a
figment of our imagination. But some people would rather be the cheetah
than the gazelle, for imaginary notions of predators being 'superior' to
prey.


>
>> If the excuse is that Blacks don't read enough than why not? What
>>was stopping the Blacks from building universities in Africa?
>
>
> <snip>
>

Like try building any factory at all in America today. Why bother when
you can do it cheaper in China? This is why nobody bothered to educate
Blacks before, because it was cheaper to educate whites. Now you can
see the same logic hapenning in reverse, it's easier to train Chinamen
to work than to do the same thing to people here in Canada/America. Not
because there is anything wrong with the people, certainly not! But
it's the cold business logic which knows no more than to 'buy labour
where its cheap.'

Blacks never had the luxury of supporting a cultural sphere, which would
opine needlessly on Greek philosophy and architecture and all that. But
where they did support their culture, it became explosive (jazz, music,
dancing etc.) So they are not behind due to inherent racial problems,
but some societal ones alone.

> Thus the élite deviant white man is reaponsibile for spreading literacy
> and weapons training throughout the third world.
>


I'm sure you don't mean all white men, but a small minority of them--the
al qaeda of the Europeans. It was known as the East India company I
think before the 1900s. It's not fair to lay the blame on all Europeans
in general, because most of them didnt even know this type of activity
was done (some never learned about what was being done in the name of
"civilization" to natives in other places.) Just think: people could
destroy whole cultures all in the name of a war for civilized values.
Next you'll find wars to spread 'mathematics' in other countries, but
really driven by the need for more hard drives.

Hasan

Michael O'Neill

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Ty wrote:
>
> "r" <r...@tw.kr> wrote in message news:407B0783...@indigo.ie...
>
> <snip>
>
> Are you al-<SLAP!>

Fuckwit.

M.

Michael O'Neill

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<snip>

Well, it seems you did an excellent job of following up.

I'm also "r" BTW. I change my addy when surfing using Javascript enabled.
Confuses the harvesters.

In fact you echoed an argument I made to Neptune3 recently:


From: <407FA4E9...@indigo.ie>

=============================================

Its a little thing called the Oral Tradition.

Lumped in with other "stone age" peoples like the aborigines an dnative
American Indians, many black cultures had an oral transmission of
history, futher eleborated and celebrated in myth paintings and dances
and artwork and sculptures.

You see, living in a warm climate with plenty of game, willing sexual
partners, good skin, bones, teeth and bodies, they didn't have too much
time for writing and reading. They were too busy living.

============================================

I didn't elaborate because I went satirical on him for a laugh, but
Ireland before Christianity had a huge oral tradition. This was
epitomised in the bard or file [fill-eh] was a poet, a court entertainer,
a jester, a musician and a storyteller. He was always given the best food
lodging and in return told stories.

Kings of the day lived in fear of their sharp tongue. They could make up
poetry in verse "on their feet" and could recite what they had made up
flawlessly for months afterward. Their satire was biting and if you
hadn't given your bard the bast, then beware. The nest lord and many
lords thereafter would be entertained with a satire on your house!

Indeed to be a warrior in Ireland in those days one was supposed to be
the universal man hinted at in you comment above. You had to master all
trades, build a house, a ship, a fortification: fish, hunt, shoot fowl:
excel in sports, fight fiercely in battle; be able to make poetry and
tell stories; be loyal to your lord.

Arthurian before the Round Table, so to speak. Yet this notion of
excellence in the round, arête to the Greeks, was/is common among peoples
who had little written tradition and seemed to have gone/go with an oral
tradition of passing down knowledge from generation to generation.

FWIW

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Hasan, the term "élite" by itself refers to a small number of people with
the white population, those who regard themselves as élite.

Hopefully the term "élite deviant" refers to an even smaller subset of
the élite, so we're talking very small numbers here.

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Hmmmm.

Are you implying that America is "under the thumb of the Jew" today?

M.

Een Wilde Ier

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Michael O'Neill wrote:

> neptune3 wrote:
<snip>


> Hmmmm.
>
> Are you implying that America is "under the thumb of the Jew" today?

All bow before your master, Billy Crystal!

Flame of the West

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Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<407FADFF...@indigo.ie>...

> In fact, in answer to a
> question by Richard Ben Veniste, the former Watergate committee counsel,
> Rice confirmed that the August 6, 2001, President's Daily Brief (PDB),
> which the White House had steadfastly refused to release to either the
> Commission of the public, was titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack
> Inside the United States.''

This is so pathetic Michael. The Washington Post told all about that
memo on May 18, 2002. It's being dragged out again now and trumpeted
as news in order to damage Bush's reelection. So much for your
"right-wing" American media.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0518-04.htm


-- FotW

"If you must read newspapers and magazines at least
give yourself a mouthwash with The Lord of the Rings."

-- C.S. Lewis

Een Wilde Ier

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Flame of the West wrote:

> Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<407FADFF...@indigo.ie>...
>
>
>>In fact, in answer to a
>>question by Richard Ben Veniste, the former Watergate committee counsel,
>>Rice confirmed that the August 6, 2001, President's Daily Brief (PDB),
>>which the White House had steadfastly refused to release to either the
>>Commission of the public, was titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack
>>Inside the United States.''
>
>
> This is so pathetic Michael. The Washington Post told all about that
> memo on May 18, 2002. It's being dragged out again now and trumpeted
> as news in order to damage Bush's reelection.

No, it's coming out because they have this little thing commonly known
as the 9/11 Commission, who are tasked by these "Congress" people who
hang around Washington DC.

I presume you think it's all the Democrats' fault that Bush and Condi
didn't give a fig for terrorism before 9/11, though they (the
administration) now deny it (and are getting themeslves twisted in
narrative knots in the process).

David Brown

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"Een Wilde Ier" <theu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c5popc$3ksa4$1...@ID-121201.news.uni-berlin.de...

Guys, don't mean to get into the middle of an interesting chat but what has
this got to do with "Dune"?

Regards,
Dave.


Een Wilde Ier

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David Brown wrote:

> "Een Wilde Ier" <theu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c5popc$3ksa4$1...@ID-121201.news.uni-berlin.de...

<snip>


> Guys, don't mean to get into the middle of an interesting chat but what has
> this got to do with "Dune"?

Karl Rove = Baron Harkonnen
GWB = the Emperor
John Kerry = Paul Muad'dib
Rush Limbaugh = Sand Worm

Any questions? ;-)

neptune3

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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:18:33 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>You see, the élite deviant white man kills so many people he needs the
>writing skills to compile the lists. And he teaches these writing skills
>to the people he uses to kill his enemies so they can read the lists.
>
>Thus the élite deviant white man is reaponsibile for spreading literacy
>and weapons training throughout the third world.
>

It's a Wonderful Race

by James Bronson
There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it
all.
One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his father.
The
argument began when the young student tried to explain to his father
that as
White people, they should be held accountable for all the evils that
they
had inflicted upon non-Whites througout history. George explained:
"Because
of European racism, we stole the Indians' land, we held blacks in
slavery,
we persecuted the Jews, and we plundered the environment. We've been
oppressive racists for thousands of years so it's only fair that we
pay
economic reparations for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm
pleased
to see that we are ending our political and economic domination of the
oppressed peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko
nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie
college
professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology
professor,
Dr.Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr. Silverstein is a
well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just don't understand
because
you were raised in a White supremacist racist society. That's why I've
come
to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as the greatest man in American
history. He stood up to the racists of your generation. Because of
him, my
generation of White kids is completely colorblind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bullshit! I've always been
fair-minded
and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I haven't
'oppressed'
anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong with being proud of
one's own
people, including the European race of people. Your race is in your
blood.
It's like an extension of your biological family and you ought to be
proud
of your European heritage and identity, just like every other racial
group
in America is proud of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong
sense of
racial identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's
the
kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were
discredited
years ago. There's only one race and that's the human race. Diversity
is our
greatest strength. Differences in so-called "race" are as
insignificant as
differences in belly buttons. And besides, UN statistics now show that
low
White birth rates, along with the fact that we live in an
multicultural
society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist
culture
will have died out by the end of the century," young George said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché
you
know that boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European
peoples of
the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young George
replied; "I
think it's great! It will mean the end of racism and the end of hate.
The
oppressed peoples of the world would have been better off if us racist
Europeans had never existed to begin with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge
smoke
cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone and lost
in a
cold open field. An angel named Clarence then appeared to him and said
"Well
George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
to show
you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or Whites, had
never
existed. You now live in a world where Europeans never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a
racist
bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able to tell
my
professor and my friends how great this non-racist world was. Say, I'm
freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once
called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains
where
you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in
non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build
them.
Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would you
like to
go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a
cave I
suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second, are these
Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some
Indians
were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it doesn't mean
they
all were" said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism.
Nonetheless, I'd
feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if they turn out to
be
violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend
yourself
with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though we could make a
spear
with those twigs over there."

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians
to
ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here.
Alexander
Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed. No
Europeans
remember?" "Forget it then" replied George. "I'll sleep in the damn
cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a
lighter
so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence. "There
are no
lighters here, and no matches. Those are European gadgets and evil
Europeans
never existed remember? If you want to get warm, you need to do like
the
locals do and start rubbing twigs together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks
together
for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the
evil
pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the angel
sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light
a fire
with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South
America. I
can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to the great
Incan
civilization I learned about at college. Since European racists like
Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the Incans will still be
there.
... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz,
the
evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were never
born..nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This is a
world
without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans
weren't
here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses of coal,
oil
and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow you to cheat
just
a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived
in an
abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was grateful
for
the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to complain about
the
heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little shithole and I'm sweating up a storm
here.
Get me an air-conditioner please."

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners
here.
Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by evil
White
men." "What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2002 these people
still
haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or their food cool? a
frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I
can't
live like like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars! Dammit
I'll
walk. let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to
get
dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that he
could
see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil White
man
too...and he was never born. There are some branches over there if you
want
to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the
Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to
Clarence
and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody has got
to
stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place
here."Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro
never
existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact, it
was the
oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the Spanish armed
forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who would rid them
of the
oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible
place. Get me out of this shithole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and
humane
civilization there that I can fit into. Where the nearest airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts
available
to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic Ocean. The
great
Viking sailors and European navigators never existed. No Phoenicians,
no
Leif Erikson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus, no Magellan, no
Hudson
and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build your own ship, there
would be
no compass for you to navigate with and no sextant either. I'm afraid
you're
stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll
fly to
Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked
African
tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by other
Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?" George
asked
Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in
Africa long
before the whites arrived." Clarence said."In fact, most of the slaves
who
were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave traders by African
tribal leaders."

"That's so sad.' George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King.
Since his
White assassin never existed, this great man should still be alive.
He's
probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an advanced
civilization. He will free these slaves from their African masters.
Take me
to him Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The
naked
women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men were out
on a
hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to the dingy
little hut
of the tribal witchdocter and spiritual leader. There he saw a
wild-looking
man with a necklace of teeth around his neck and a huge ring pierced
through
his nose. "What the hell is that? George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never
became
Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities or
seminaries
built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create such
opportunities.
But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He specilaizes in
casting
evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his
henchmen
to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George and tied
him to
a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George
hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you George. The good
doctor
King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out while
you are
still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to his tribe,"
laughed
Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet
your
hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see
that now.
Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established great
civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's
heart,
George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the banks of
the
river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it
Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and
primitive? I
learned during Black History Month about many talented black inventors
and
scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington Carver, Benjamin
Banneker,
Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson, the preeminent brain surgeon
in
all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarense replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa,
exist
exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them. Civilization
as
you had known it had only been introduced to these people just a few
centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no universities, no
hospitals, no
means of transportation other than animals, no science, no medicine,
no
machines. In fact, the wheel hasn't even been discovered in
Sub-Saharan
Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and
entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize
their
full human potential because Europeans weren't around to introduce
higher
civilization and learning to them. There are no George Washington
Carvers in
this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons, no Booker T. Washingtons, no
Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans, no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill
Cosbys,
no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great
pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders
of
the world .....built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the
nearest
toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets or
urinals in
this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans. The people in
this
non-White world still relieve themselves in open fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some
toilet
paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a
rag
then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

"I don't understand. According to my recollections from Geography
class, the
great pyramids should be near this very spot. We ought to be able to
see
them from miles away," said George.

"Well, George, I'm sure your professors at the college never told you
this,
but the ancient Egyptians were not black or brown. They were
Caucasians. The
anthropologists who examined the Egyptian mummies confirmed this fact.
There
are no pyramids and no Sphinx either. And the Carthaginians were White
too."

George became depressed, but he was determined to prove his beliefs.
"What's
in Europe?" he asked.

"Europe became populated by Huns and other Asiatic tribes. They've
settled
down a bit but life is much the same as it is in North America. A
nomadic
existence based on hunting and food gathering. No great cities, no
science,
no buildings, no culture, no fine art - just a hard daily struggle
against
life and the elements of nature. In a Europe without evil Whites, the
Roman
Empire never existed nor did the Greeks. There was no Renaisance
either."

"Take me to Asia then. Surely the great civilizations of Persia,
India,
China, and Japan will suit me" George said. "Clarence, to the Taj
Mahal
please." "The Taj Mahal?" replied the angel. "Don't you know that the
ancient Persian and Indian civilizations were established by ancient
Indo-European tribes who crossed the Himalayas? They are the ones who
civilized India and built the Taj Mahal. Those are the great
civilizations
that Marco Polo, Columbus, and others were searching for.Did you know
that
Iran is Persian for "land of the Aryan?"

George said: "Don't tell me that the Indians were White men! That
can't be.
In the world I came from, I knew many Indians and they were not
White!"

Clarence explained: "As the centuries passed, the Indo-Europeans who
created
Indian civilization intermarried with the native majorities who
populated
the Indian subcontinent. Gradually there were less and less evil White
people until they faded out completely, along with the advanced
civilization
they had built. You will notice that there are still a few
white-skinned and
fair-haired Indians and Pakistanis around today -- in the world you
came
from that is.

George became worried. He knew he could never fit into the harsh
primitive
world he had been thrust into. Suddenly he thought of Japan. "Japan!
I'll
show you now Clarence. Take me to Japan. If the Japanese can make TVs
and
cameras then I'm sure I'll find a decent civilization that I can live
in."

Clarence transported George to Japan. George observed that Japanese
society
was the most orderly, advanced and civil that he had seen, but it
seemed as
if almost everyone was either a rice farmer, a fisherman, or a
soldier.
There were no cars, no skyscapers, no lights, no stereos, no sciences,
no
technologies, no universities. It was a stagnant agricultural society
that
seemed to have reached its high water mark and was incapable of moving
forward. George knew he could not live here either.

Clarence explained to Geeorge: "Even the industrious Japanese and
Chinese
peoples had to rely on the evil Europeans to build the modern Asia
that you
had in mind. In this world, Japan exists exactly as it did before
Commodore
Perry's American naval ships arrived in Japan in the 1850s. There's no
industry, no technology, no Fuji film, no Sony, no Hitachi, no
Panasonic, no
Toyota, no Sushi bars, no baseball...none of the trappings or comforts
of
modern life. These things don't exist in Japan or anywhere else
because
Europeans weren't there to create them and share them with the rest of
the
world. Would you care for a bowl of rice George?"

George began to feel sick in both his body and his mind. Not only was
he
depressed, but exposure to the harsh elements of nature had left him
physically ill. "Clarence, I seem to have contracted some type of
sickness.
I must have some anti-biotics."

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

"Oh Shut up already! Then just take me back to the world as it was!"

"Sorry George. I'm not authorized to do that. Only my boss can make
that
call." Clarence said to him: "You see George. Your father was right.
You
really had a wonderful race. Don't you see what a foolish mistake it
is to
be ashamed and guilty about your own people, and to let them die out?
This
is what the world would be like without the creative spark of Edison
and
Ford and Pasteur and Marconi. No great scientists, or mathematicians,
or
inventors or fine artists. No Archimedes, no Aristotle, no Socrates,
no
Alexander, no Renaissance, no Newton, no Kepler, no Goddard, no
Mendel, no
Tesla, no Faraday, no Guttenberg, no Shakespeare, no Dickens, no
Twain, no
Mozart, no Beethoven, no Da Vinci, no Michelangelo, no Galileo, no
Copernicus. No Venice, no Paris, no Lisbon, no Madrid, no Zurich, no
Berlin,
no St. Petersburg, no Budapest, no Rome, no Milan, no Vienna, no
London, no
New York, no Rio, no Sydney. No orchestras, no museums, no
universities, no
hospitals, no libraries, no theaters, no radio, no books, no
television, no
electricity, no refrigeration, no heating, no plumbing, no houses, no
steel,
no stadiums, no vaccines, no cars, no planes, no trains, no ships, no
dentists, no surgeons, no computers, no telephones, and most important
-
there's no creative genius to be found that could create and sustain
such a
high level of civilization. There's nothing for the people of this
world to
build upon. It's just a daily struggle for subsistence. A brutal
planet
where the few people who aren't mired in eternal ignorance and
darkness have
reached their peak of civilization and are advancing no further."

Clarence went on to lecture the broken and depressed young man for
seven
days straight. He covered everything. History, science, economics,
philosophy, art, literature, fine music, architecture, medicine,
politics,
agriculture, religion, and all the creations and contributions that
the
European peoples had made in every conceivable field of human
endeavor.
George listened closely to every word. He felt like a man who had been
reborn.

After his lecture, Clarence the Angel floated away towards heaven. "I
hope
you have found all this to be educational, and I hope you have learned
an
important lesson. Enjoy your world George!" mocked the departing
angel.

George began to sob like a baby. It was the year 2002 and he was alone
and
hungry in a backwards world where Europeans had never existed. He
cried out
to the stars: "Please God. I see what a fool I've been. I understand
now
what my father was trying to tell me. I want to go back to the world
that I
came from. A world where Europeans not only existed, but blessed the
rest of
humanity world with their unique creative ability. I want to live in a
civilized world. Please God!...take me back!...take me back!...Oh
God....please."

Suddenly George was transported back to his college dormitory. Drunk
with
joy, George jumped into the showers before he could even take his
clothes
off!.

"Warm water! and soap! Life is beautiful!" he screamed.

George's floormates looked at him as if he was crazy. "George! Have
you gone
crazy?" asked a bewildered schoolmate.

"No my friend. I haven't taken leave of my senses. I've come to them!"
George replied. George then began to sing classic European folk songs
in the
shower. Miraculously, he was able to sing in many different languages.
He
sang O Sole Mio in Italian, Amazing Grace in English, Gloire
Immortelle in
French, Das Ist Der Tag in German, and also Belgian, Spanish and
French
ballads and waltzes. Tears of sheer joy began to stream down his
cheeks. The
degenerate music of Hip-Hop and Rap lost all of its appeal to young
George.

After his shower, George drove to a nearby restaurant and ordered two
whole
entrees. One was Lasagna and the other was a delicious Veal Marsala.
With
his Italian food he had a Greek salad with Spanish olives and Russian
dressing, drank a whole bottle of French wine, followed by a German
pastry
for dessert. He finished his meal off with a hot cup of English tea
and a
Cuban cigar.

George said out loud: "Oh those European peoples and their delicious
cuisine. Clarence was right after all. What a wonderful race!"

George was happy, but at the same time he realized there was much work
to be
done. He thought of all those poor whites in Rhodesia and South Africa
who
were being murdered and raped ever since they gave up control of those
once-European nations. He thought of the many thousands of qualified
Whites
who were passed up for good jobs and college entrance because of
racial
quotas that discriminate against Europeans. He thought about the
decling
birthrates among all the European nations of the world. He remembered
that
Europeans everywhere were dwindling in numbers every year even as
their own
nations were being flooded with third world immigration. He recalled
the
O.J. Simpson verdict and how millions of blacks in America cheered
when that
brutal double murderer was set free by a black jury after he stabbed
two
Whites to death. He remembered the Los Angeles riots of 1992, where
dozens
of Whites were dragged out of their vehicles and killed like dogs in
the
streets by packs of White-hating monsters who were never even
punished! He
remembered the time when Jesse Jackson led a cheer at Stanford
University:
"Hey Hey Ho Ho, Western Civ. has got to go!" His European blood began
to
boil in righteous indignation when he recalled how Jesse Jackson once
said
he had spit in White people's food when he was a young restaurant
worker.
George now understood that that his people were on a collision course
with
worldwide disaster and genocide. George realized that this great
people must
not perish from the face of the earth.

George could not wait to see his father. He longed to embrace him and
apologize for all of the foolish and disrespectful things he had said
to
him. But first, George had a score to settle with a certain college
professor. He walked into Dr. Silverstein's auditorium and quietly
took a
seat in the back row. The nasal voiced Silverstein was lecturing on
and on
about racial and gender inequalities in European-centered
civilizations. It
was vintage Silverstein. George's impressionable White schoolmates,
with
their baggy pants, hip-hop clothes and backwards baseball caps, were
swallowing Silverstein's poison pills hook, line and sinker. After
letting
Silverstein spew his cultural poison for about 15 minutes or so,
George
raised his hand so that he could give the profesor a piece of his
newly
educated mind.

"George? Is that you? I remember you from last semester. I wasn't
aware that
you were here today. I failed to recognize you in that shirt and tie,
and
without your earrings. You must have enjoyed my course so much that
you
signed up again eh? Class, I'd like for you to meet George. He was one
of my
brightest students last semester. He truly has a thorough grasp of the
ideas
presented in this course. George, would you be so kind as to tell my
class
about that brilliant term paper you wrote about European racism,
imperialism, and the need for monetary reparations?"

That's when young George let loose on the unsuspecting Professor.

"ENOUGH! You scheming devil! You mendacious fabricator of falsehoods!
You
pusillanimous purveyor of pinko propaganda! How dare you try to
corrupt and
manipulate our young minds when your filthy lies. We Europeans have
nothing
to be ashamed of, nothing to apologize for, and everything to be proud
of.
And most of all, we don't owe anybody jack-shit - not one thin dime!
To the
contrary, it is the rest of humanity that owes us a debt which can
never be
repaid! We are the rightful heirs and protectors of a rich cultural
heritage. You vile manipulator! We are the sons of the Romans, the
sons of
the Greeks, the Celtics, the Vikings, the Normans, the Saxons. Why do
you
inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just contribute
to
civilization...WE ARE CIVILIZATION! And I decare that I will no longer
tolerate you shithead "intellectuals" trying to tear our people down.
Never
again will we walk on eggshells when we speak, always fearing that we
might
be called "racist." I no longer care what people think. All that
matters is
the truth which you have sought to pervert!"

"What are you up to anyway? Why do you to corrupt my young peers by
shoving
false heroes down their throats. Enough of your Marxist games of
divide and
conquer, you commie pinko subversive! I don't want to learn anymore
about
Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Black History Month.
They
would not have amounted to anything without the institutions of high
civilization created by the European peoples. I'm going to set this
class
straight about who the truly great men of history are - the European
statesmen, scientists, explorers, monarchs, navigators, conquerors,
inventors, artists, writers, philosophers - the innovative giants of
history
that you and your ilk have erased from our collective memories. You
speak of
a world liberated from European influence? Permit me tell your
students
about such a world, Silverstein, because I can speak from personal
experience, you wretched little conspiring monster!"

Silverstein turned white as a ghost. He was shellshocked and rendered
speechless for the first time in his career! Never in all of his years
at
the University had a student dared to so boldly challenge his
falsehoods.
Speaking from the heart as well as the mind, and with an eloquence he
never
thought he could muster, George broke out into a 60-minute monologue
on
history, science, philosophy, culture, and all the other attributes
that
constitute high civilization. The young students were captivated by
George's
brilliant oratory. Many were moved to tears. By the end of his tirade,
George's reawakened classmates were thundering their approval of his
speech.
The class gave George a standing ovation and they thanked him for
helping
them rediscover and reclaim their own sense of pride and lost
identity. The
unstoppable power of truth had melted away years of Marxist guilt
tripping,
self hate, wimpishness and cultural brainwashing in just one
unforgettable
hour. The inspired students proceeded to storm out of Silverstein's
class,
throwing their hip-hop baseball caps and nose earings at him as they
stampeded out and vowed never to return. They lifted George up upon
their
shoulders and carried him out of the auditorium like a conquering
hero. With
a glint in his eye, George glanced up towards the sky, winked and said
"Thank you, Clarence."

Dr. Silverstein was left humiliated and visibly shaken. He knew that
these
reawakened European kids could never again be brainwashed with
"political
correctness" and White guilt. Silverstein's greatest fear was that
more of
these proud European youths would one day reawaken and take their
country
and civilization back from the Silversteins of the world.

Silverstein was worried, but he remained confident that most young men
and
women would never learn the truth about their glorious past and unique
creative abilties. After all, the mass media, Hollywood, the music
industry,
the colleges, and the public schools are all controlled by "liberals"
like
Dr. Silverstein. With the power of political correctness in their
hands,
they can continue to tear down our European ancesters, destroy our
institutions and traditions, instigate blacks and other races against
the
whites, flood America with third-world immigration, and push "hip-hop"
music, homosexuality, and other garbage onto a weak, confused and
morally
degenerate youth. After reflecting upon these facts, Silverstein
smiled a
devilish grin and muttered to himself: "A few of these European sheep
may
wake up to what's being done to them, but the majority of these idiots
never
will." And he smiled again....and laughed with diabolical Marxist
glee. Then
he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's
too late."

Or will they?

neptune3

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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:47:13 GMT, Hashemon Urtasman <nos...@spam.com>
wrote:


>
>Or how about 'a liberal would point out that a gazella can run faster
>than a cheetah or a lion, but the conservative would point out that it's
>better to be a part of a superior species like a cheetah or a lion--the
>king of the jungle, than to be a part of the herd.'
>

>I think "Genetic fascist" is a good term to describe people who hold the

>attitude that predators own or dominate their prey. There is no such
>"ruler-subject" relationship at all in reality, but this is just a
>figment of our imagination. But some people would rather be the cheetah
>than the gazelle, for imaginary notions of predators being 'superior' to
>prey.
>
>

>Like try building any factory at all in America today. Why bother when
>you can do it cheaper in China? This is why nobody bothered to educate
>Blacks before, because it was cheaper to educate whites. Now you can
>see the same logic hapenning in reverse, it's easier to train Chinamen
>to work than to do the same thing to people here in Canada/America. Not
>because there is anything wrong with the people, certainly not! But
>it's the cold business logic which knows no more than to 'buy labour
>where its cheap.'
>
>Blacks never had the luxury of supporting a cultural sphere, which would
>opine needlessly on Greek philosophy and architecture and all that. But
>where they did support their culture, it became explosive (jazz, music,
>dancing etc.) So they are not behind due to inherent racial problems,
>but some societal ones alone.
>
>

>I'm sure you don't mean all white men, but a small minority of them--the
>al qaeda of the Europeans. It was known as the East India company I
>think before the 1900s. It's not fair to lay the blame on all Europeans
>in general, because most of them didnt even know this type of activity
>was done (some never learned about what was being done in the name of
>"civilization" to natives in other places.) Just think: people could
>destroy whole cultures all in the name of a war for civilized values.
>Next you'll find wars to spread 'mathematics' in other countries, but
>really driven by the need for more hard drives.
>

Will Whites Commit Race Suicide?

Indigenous Britons will be a minority by 2100. John Morse asks: Have
our people the will to survive?

The White Race is headed for minority status, not just on a global
scale but in its own homelands. Alarmism from the far right? No,
statistically verifiable reality supported by official figures.
Governments, academic demographers and the UN are all agreed on the
trends. Immigration and differential birth rates between Whites and
non-Whites speak for themselves. If they remain as they are, people of
European descent will be outnumbered practically everywhere before the
end of the 21st century.
Much as our rulers want to keep the facts under wraps and, as far as
possible, away from the public gaze, those facts are nevertheless
fully acknowledged by those in the know.
In what ought to be a wake-up call to the British people, Anthony
Browne, writing in the left-wing Observer (3rd September 2000) under
the blaring headline "The last days of the white world" outlined the
situation. The trick, it seems, is to present he matter as if it were
no big deal. Said Browne, speaking of shifting population balances in
America:-
‘It was news and non-news: the most significant milestone in one of
the most profound changes to affect the US in the past century, and
yet a non-event. Last week the US Census Bureau issued figures showing
that non-Hispanic Whites made up 49.8 per cent of the population of
California. Anglo-Saxon Whites are already a minority in Hawaii and
the District of Columbia. Now they are a minority in the country's
most populous state, the one most usually identified with American
dream.’
Only 30 years ago 80 per cent of California's population was white.
Immigration, said Browne, is at its highest rates since the early
1900s. It is of course a fact that most migration into the state at
that time was white, including Europeans entering the United States
and residents moving there from elsewhere in the country (though there
was an Oriental influx at about the same time).
But all this has changed since the Immigration Act passed through the
US Congress in the mid-1960s. This served to shut out most Europeans
from America, whilst controls on non-white immigrants have lapsed
piecemeal ever since. When the suicidally low birth-rates of
California's white residents is factored into the equation, it is not
hard to see how the state's black, Asian and Latin American mestizo
populations have managed to rise by almost a third since 1990 alone,
whilst the number of non-Hispanic Whites has fallen by 3 per cent over
the same period.
Browne affirmed the significance of this. "Where California goes, the
rest of America is predicted to follow," he wrote. "At present, 72 per
cent of the US population is non-Hispanic Whites: the US Census Bureau
predicts they will become a minority between 2055 and 2060."
Worldwide trend
In fact, what is happening at such a pace in the United States, where
the speed of demographic change is so dramatic and so visible, in
Browne's words "only reflects wider and highly controversial changes
elsewhere in the world."
"Controversy", of course, is something that has been deliberately
engineered around this topic. The last thing the powers-that-be in the
New World Order want the peoples of European stock to be thinking
about is their true predicament. As Browne remarked, here is "an area
in which few demographers dare to tread for fear of being accused of
racism."
One academic (presumably British) whom Browne interviewed even told
him: "You cannot quote me - a word out of place and I get crapped on
from a very great height... Whatever you say you are deemed racist!"
...
The "inevitability" trick
To Whites, this situation is presented in terms of two propositions:
first, that their becoming a minority does not matter (or is even to
be welcomed); second, that there is nothing they can do about it
anyway.
Both are lies...
For ordinary workaday Britons, not just in London but throughout the
nation, the ethnic transformation of their country is an unmitigated
disaster, It spells dispossession - dispossession perhaps of one's
job, certainly of one's neighbourhood, maybe even of the home in which
one has spent one's life. It spells the end of security - as all sense
of coherent community collapses in a social environment made up of
people too innately different from one another to form a like-minded
population capable of pulling together in a single direction. Very
likely, the end result will be a number of communities at war with
each other in an overcrowded land. Meanwhile crime explodes at a level
once unheard of. If one has a family to consider, and children to be
schooled locally in the state system, there is only one realistic
option left. One must get out. Hence the phenomenon of "white flight"
from London and the big cities.. .
The final condition of Britain would rather resemble that of most
Central and South American tinpot republics, where a white - or
relatively white - ruling caste lords it over a mish-mash of Indians,
Negroes and half-breeds (although nobody's racial credentials are
guaranteed in such societies). The attitude of the rulers is
exploitative and parasitical because they have no sense of kinship
with their subjects. That of the latter is servile, punctuated without
breaks of violent rebellion as they intermittently react against their
subjection. These countries are really mini-empires, in which the mass
of the populace is policed and managed as if they were colonial
inferiors rather than treated as kindred citizens, albeit of different
rank, sharing a common nationality with their leaders. Nor, given the
racial differences within those populations, can things be otherwise.
Such states are not noted for their strength, stability, harmony or
prosperity. For instance, in terms of land area Brazil is larger than
the United States (apart from Alaska), Its natural resources are vast,
Its population is close to 150 million. about the same as that of the
US circa World War II. In theory, Brazil ought to be a world power. In
fact, it is a basket case. It would of course be "racist" to suggest
that this might have something to with its predominantly mixed-race
populace.
But it is just such a state that our rulers are apparently quite happy
to see Britain become!
Racial suicide, for this is what this policy amounts to - is not a
painless process. Many former white civilisations, from Greece and
Rome onwards, have committed it, None has benefited by it.
Dissenting voice
One dissenting voice mentioned in Brown's article was that of BNP
Chairman Nick Griffin, quoted as saying: "I don't think there's any
doubt that, within this century, white people will become a minority
in every country in the world." He rightly added the corollary that
this "was a matter for deep concern. Every people under the sun have a
right to their place under the sun, and the right to survive." After
all, in the case of other races there would be no shortage of
complaints if they faced the state of affairs now confronting
Europeans. "If people predicted that Indians would be a minority in
India in 2000 everyone would be calling it genocide," remarked Mr.
Griffin.
Not inevitable
The second great lie about the predicted fate of our people is that it
is "inevitable." This is the watchword under which the decline of the
white race and white nations has been moving apace for the last
half-century.
Even now, it is obvious that there are still sufficient white people
for us to seize back our destiny if the will can be generated among
them to inspire such a move. The very need of the established powers
to lie, and even forcibly conceal the truth, about the demographic
crisis facing us as described in this article, is testimony to the
fact that a backlash against them is fully possible - and they know
it!
Racial sanity is already rearing its head in some unexpected quarters.
No less a personage than the conservative Prime Minister of Bavaria
has made a very recent plea for more children. In August, according to
Anthony Browne, Mr. Edmund Stoiber called for Germans to have more
babies as an alternative to more immigrants. "We are having too few
children - to a worrying degree, the significance of which is scarcely
recognised," he said. His calls echoed those of a fellow German
Christian Democrat who earlier this year stood on a platform of
"Children, not Indians".
For the BNP, it is our duty to state the full truth of our parlous
position to our own countrymen and women, and motivate the necessary
political response among them in the most intelligent manner. The hour
is late, but it is not yet midnight!

Spearhead Online

Flame of the West

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Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<407FA4E9...@indigo.ie>...

> > If the excuse is that Blacks don't read enough than why not? What
> > was stopping the Blacks from building universities in Africa?

<snip>

> You see, living in a warm climate with plenty of game, willing sexual


> partners, good skin, bones, teeth and bodies, they didn't have too much
> time for writing and reading. They were too busy living.

Whereas Europeans built universities as an outlet for their sexual
frustration?

Flame of the West

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neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

> Will Whites Commit Race Suicide?

>
> Indigenous Britons will be a minority by 2100. John Morse asks: Have
> our people the will to survive?

I don't see the point of all this. The demographics are every bit as
grim as you say, but it's really too late to do anything about it. You
can't turn demographic trends on a dime. In Japan, they are desperate
to get people to have more children, and they won't do it. This is the
predictable result of decades of promoting contraception and abortion
and demonizing large families. I wonder how many people see the
resemblance between modern Western society and the pre-Elessar
decrepitude of Minas Tirith. Unfortunately, in real life bringing back
the King won't fill the streets with children.

I don't despair, however, because I don't share your opinion that Third
World peoples are somehow inferior to the dying races of the West.
It's already obvious that Africa will in the future be the center of
Christian civilization. The majority of the world's Anglicans live there,
and it would not be surprising to see the next Pope come from there.
Meantime the "white" nations will continue to sink into their suicidal
final decline, led by Russia. Perhaps the "white" race, mired in its
collective stupidity, is not so superior after all.

Flame of the West

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inter...@ukr.net (Inna from Ukraine) wrote in message news:

> without going far with details, I sincerely believe if there is a
> universal enemy, but it is against all humans all together, so it is
> not a human enemy against humans. yes it may take a form of humans!
> go figure then how to deal with it!

The universal enemies are none other than the Orcs!

Een Wilde Ier

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Apr 17, 2004, 8:09:30 AM4/17/04
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Flame of the West wrote:
> Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:<407FA4E9...@indigo.ie>...
>
>
>>> If the excuse is that Blacks don't read enough than why not? What
>>>was stopping the Blacks from building universities in Africa?
>
>
> <snip>
>
>>You see, living in a warm climate with plenty of game, willing sexual
>>partners, good skin, bones, teeth and bodies, they didn't have too much
>>time for writing and reading. They were too busy living.
>
>
> Whereas Europeans built universities as an outlet for their sexual
> frustration?

Remind us again: *which* Union includes California?

Een Wilde Ier

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Apr 17, 2004, 8:23:20 AM4/17/04
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Flame of the West wrote:
> neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:
>
>
>>Will Whites Commit Race Suicide?
>>
>>Indigenous Britons will be a minority by 2100. John Morse asks: Have
>>our people the will to survive?
>
>
> I don't see the point of all this. The demographics are every bit as
> grim as you say,

No, they aren't 'grim' at all. You have no more right to controlling
North America than any other non-Amerindian group.

Why are you even engaging in this, given your own background? It wasn't
so long ago that non-WASPS were a scare issue, after all.

<snip>


> I don't despair, however, because I don't share your opinion that Third
> World peoples are somehow inferior to the dying races of the West.

Nobody's "dying", though it is a term much-favoured by white
supremacists (whether in the American South or South Africa, or anywhere
in between). There's demographic swings, that's all.

> It's already obvious that Africa will in the future be the center of
> Christian civilization. The majority of the world's Anglicans live there,
> and it would not be surprising to see the next Pope come from there.
> Meantime the "white" nations will continue to sink into their suicidal
> final decline, led by Russia.

Don't be so melodramatic. Once they become imbued by suburban
comsumerist culture (and agriculture becomes the province of
corporations), they'll see a sharp decline in birthrate as well.

> Perhaps the "white" race, mired in its
> collective stupidity, is not so superior after all.

Why are you giving airtime to this little racist #### by debating him?

neptune3

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On 17 Apr 2004 00:20:09 -0700, jsol...@netscape.net (Flame of the
West) wrote:

>
>I don't see the point of all this. The demographics are every bit as
>grim as you say, but it's really too late to do anything about it.

Many people want to do something about it.

> You
>can't turn demographic trends on a dime.

You can if the present government and media is replaced by something
very different.


> In Japan, they are desperate
>to get people to have more children, and they won't do it.

Are they just asking or giving real economic incentives?

> This is the
>predictable result of decades of promoting contraception and abortion
>and demonizing large families. I wonder how many people see the
>resemblance between modern Western society and the pre-Elessar
>decrepitude of Minas Tirith. Unfortunately, in real life bringing back
>the King won't fill the streets with children.
>
>I don't despair, however, because I don't share your opinion that Third
>World peoples are somehow inferior to the dying races of the West.


The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:

"One of the most powerful direct studies of race and environment
was conducted by psychologists Sandra Scarr, Richard Weinberg and I.
D. Waldman. All three were quite well-known for their environmental
opinions. The study analyzed White, Black, and Mixed-race adopted
children in more than 100 White families in Minnesota. The study was
an egalitarian's dream, because the children's adoptive parents had
prestigious levels of income and education and were anti-racist enough
to adopt a Black child into their own family. Scarr is a strong
defender of racial equality and maintained that environment played an
almost exclusive role in IQ differences between the races. Scarr
supports the importance of heredity in causing individual differences
within a race, but she has argued that between-race differences are
mostly environmental.

The children in the study included Whites, Blacks, and Mulattos as
well as the biological children of the White adoptive couples. At the
age of 7, the children were tested for IQ, and all of the groups
including the Blacks and Mulattos, scored above average in IQ. Scarr
and Weinberg published a paper claiming to have proven the almost
exclusive power of environment over race in IQ, even though they had
to admit that the White children, whether adopted or not, scored well
above the Black and Mulatto children and that the Mulatto children
scored above the Blacks. (88)

A decade later, when the children reached the age of 17, a
follow-up study was conducted that that again included IQ
measurements. As they matured, Black children had dropped back to an
average of 89 in IQ, which is the average IQ for Blacks in the region
of the United States where the study was done. The White adopted
children scored an average of 106 in IQ, 17 points higher than the
Black children, which is consistant with traditional studies of Black
and White IQ differences. In line with genetic theory the half-White,
half-Black Mulatto adopted children scored almost exactly between the
adopted Whites and Blacks. (89)

RESULTS OF MINNESOTA TRANSRACIAL ADOPTION STUDY

IQ

Parental IQ 115.35
Biological Children 109.4
White Adopted children 105.6
Mulatto parents adopted children 98.5
Black parents adopted children 89.4

Scarr and Wienberg reluctantly published their data from the
follow up survey, but they waited close to four years to do so, almost
as if they were embarrassed by what they had found. Through a tortured
reasoning process, they still argued that environment played a
dominant role in IQ. But in their follow-up survey, unlike their first
paper, they also admitted that genes had an important impact as well.
Both Richard Lynn and Michael Levin effectively showed in their
re-analysis of Scarr's own data, that genes clearly comprise the
dominant role in intelligence levels of those adopted children. (90)
(91)"

(88) Scarr, S, & Weinberg R. A. (1976). IQ Test Perfomance of Black
Children Adopted By White Families. American Psychologist. Vol. 31.
p.26-739

(89) Weinberg, R. A. , Scarr, S., & Waldman, I. D. (1992). The
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study. A Follow-Up of IQ Test
Performance at Adolescence, Intelligence. Vol 16.
p.17-135

(90) Lynn, R. (1994). Reinterpretations Of The Minnesota Transracial
Adoption Study. Intelligence. Vol. 19. p.1-27

(91) Levin, M. (1994). Comment on The Minnesota Transracial Adoption
Study. Intelligence Vol. 19. p.3-20


>It's already obvious that Africa will in the future be the center of
>Christian civilization. The majority of the world's Anglicans live there,
>and it would not be surprising to see the next Pope come from there.
>Meantime the "white" nations will continue to sink into their suicidal
>final decline, led by Russia. Perhaps the "white" race, mired in its
>collective stupidity, is not so superior after all.
>

www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com

neptune3

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:23:20 +0100, Een Wilde Ier
<theu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>No, they aren't 'grim' at all. You have no more right to controlling
>North America than any other non-Amerindian group.

There were primitive savages in America before Whites arrived. But
the Whites made it a great nation with huge farms and things.

Here are some quotes from "The Oregon Trail" written by Francis
Parkman. It is a true story about his experiences with Indians. He
travelled to Oregon in 1846 and lived with Indians.

"For the most part, a civilized white man can discover very few
points of sympathy between his own nature and that of an Indian. With
every disposition to do justice to their good qualitites, he must be
conscious that an impassable gulf lies between him and his red
brethren. Nay, so alien to himself do they appear, that, after
breathing the air of the prairie for a few months or weeks, he begins
to look upon them as a troublesome and dangerous species of wild
beasts."

"Assume , in the presence of Indians, a bold bearing, self-confident
yet vigilant, and you will find them tolerably safe neighbors. But
your safety depends on the respect and fear you are able to inspire."

"Against most of the neighboring tribes they cherish a rancorous
hatred... This fierce spirit awakens their most eager aspirations, and
calls forth their greatest energies. It is chiefly this that saves
them from lethargy and utter abasement. Without its powerful stimulous
they would be like the unwarlike tribes beyond the mountains,
scattered among the caves and rocks like beasts, and living on roots
and reptiles. These later have little of humanity except the form"

"Their religion, superstitions and prejudices were the same handed
down to them from immemorial time. They fought with the weapons that
their fathers fought with, and wore the same garments of skins. They
were living representatives of the "stone age"; for though their
lances and arrows were tipped with iron procured from the traders,
they still used the rude stone mallet of the primeval world."

"The surrounding group of savages offered no very attractive
spectacle to a civilized eye. Some were cracking the huge thigh-bones
and devouring the marrow within; others were cutting away pieces of
liver, and other approved morsels, and swallowing them on the spot
with the appetite of wolves. The faces of most of them, besmeared with
blood from ear to ear, looked grim and horrible enough."

"few beings have more curiosity than Indians in regard to subjects
within the ordinary range of thought. As to other matters, indeed,
they seem utterly indifferent. They will not trouble to inquire into
what they cannot comprehend, but are quite contented to place their
hands over their mouths in token of wonder, and exclaim that it is
"great medicine". With this comprehensive solution, an Indian never is
at a loss. He never launches into speculation and conjecture; his
reason moves in its beaten track. His soul is dormant"


>
>Why are you even engaging in this, given your own background? It wasn't
>so long ago that non-WASPS were a scare issue, after all.
>
>

>Nobody's "dying", though it is a term much-favoured by white
>supremacists (whether in the American South or South Africa, or anywhere
>in between). There's demographic swings, that's all.

Letter To The Citizen by F. Rundle


A White Man's Apologies.

Along with the other South African Whites who are
apologising for
Apartheid, we Whites who are not part of that
liberal select group
would like to apologise to the Black people for the
following heinous
crimes:

We apologise for bringing clothing to a land where
the Black people
were naked or only had animal skin loincloths to
cover themselves
before our arrival;

We apologise for bringing doctors and free medical
care, as a result
of which the Black people have been able to survive
plagues and
catastrophes and grow in numbers;

We apologise for teaching Black people to read and
write;

We apologise for providing the money to build
schools and
universities for the Black people, always rebuilding
them when they
were burned down or vandalised;

We apologise for bringing vehicles and roads to a
land, which did
not have the wheel, before we arrived here 350 years
ago;

We apologise for building dams which stored water
for times of
drought, and we apologise for bringing running water
systems to the
houses we built;

We also apologise for bringing electricity to this
country;

We apologise for building factories, highways, and
buildings that
gave Black people employment and money;

We apologise for developing commercial farms which
to this day feed
the bulk of Africa, the like of which the Black
people never had
before;

We apologise for taking minerals from the earth,
which the Black
people neither used, nor wanted, nor even knew were
there;

We apologise for those among us who have established
welfare
organisations and have devoted their entire lives
towards making
life richer and better for the Black people;

We apologise for paying the lion's share of taxation
while spending
less
on ourselves than on the Black people;

For all these sins we humbly beg forgiveness, and if
they will only
accept our apology we will be happy to take back all
of the above
evil and horrible things we have done to you and
return to Europe.

F Rundle

>
>Don't be so melodramatic. Once they become imbued by suburban
>comsumerist culture (and agriculture becomes the province of
>corporations), they'll see a sharp decline in birthrate as well.
>
>

>Why are you giving airtime to this little racist #### by debating him?

by Thomas Jackson
There is surely no nation in the world that holds "racism" in greater
horror than does the United States. Compared to other kinds of
offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press
and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and
arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as
part of the inevitable texture of American life. "Racism" is never
shrugged off. For example, when a White Georgetown Law School student
reported earlier this year that black students are not as qualified as
White students, it set off a booming, national controversy about
"racism." If the student had merely murdered someone he would have
attracted far less attention and criticism.
Racism is, indeed, the national obsession. Universities are on full
alert for it, newspapers and politicians denounce it, churches preach
against it, America is said to be racked with it, but just what is
racism?
Dictionaries are not much help in understanding what is meant by the
word. They usually define it as the belief that one's own ethnic stock
is superior to others, or as the belief that culture and behavior are
rooted in race. When Americans speak of racism they mean a great deal
more than this. Nevertheless, the dictionary definition of racism is a
clue to understanding what Americans do mean. A peculiarly American
meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are
equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been
declared to be equally talented and hard- working, and anyone who
questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.
The dogma has logical consequences that are profoundly important. If
blacks, for example, are equal to Whites in every way, what accounts
for their poverty, criminality, and dissipation? Since any theory of
racial differences has been outlawed, the only possible explanation
for black failure is White racism. And since blacks are markedly poor,
crime-prone, and dissipated, America must be racked with pervasive
racism. Nothing else could be keeping them in such an abject state.
All public discourse on race today is locked into this rigid logic.
Any explanation for black failure that does not depend on White
wickedness threatens to veer off into the forbidden territory of
racial differences. Thus, even if today's Whites can find in their
hearts no desire to oppress blacks, yesterday's Whites must have
oppressed them. If Whites do not consciously oppress blacks, they must
oppress them Unconsciously. If no obviously racist individuals can be
identified, then societal institutions must be racist. Or, since
blacks are failing so terribly in America, there simply must be
millions of White people we do not know about, who are working day and
night to keep blacks in misery. The dogma of racial equality leaves no
room for an explanation of black failure that is not, in some fashion,
an indictment of White people.
The logical consequences of this are clear. Since we are required to
believe that the only explanation for non-White failure is White
racism, every time a non-White is poor, commits a crime, goes on
welfare, or takes drugs, White society stands accused of yet another
act of racism. All failure or misbehavior by non-Whites is standing
proof that White society is riddled with hatred and bigotry. For
precisely so long as non-Whites fail to succeed in life at exactly the
same level as Whites, Whites will be, by definition, thwarting and
oppressing them. This obligatory pattern of thinking leads to strange
conclusions. First of all, racism is a sin that is thought to be
committed almost exclusively by White people. Indeed, a black
congressman from Chicago, Gus Savage, and Coleman Young, the black
mayor of Detroit, have argued that only White people can be racist.
Likewise, in 1987, the affirmative action officer of the State
Insurance Fund of New York issued a company pamphlet in which she
explained that all Whites are racist and that only Whites can be
racist. How else could the plight of blacks be explained without
flirting with the possibility of racial inequality?
Although some blacks and liberal Whites concede that non-Whites can,
perhaps, be racist, they invariably add that non-Whites have been
forced into it as self-defense because of centuries of White
oppression. What appears to be non-White racism is so understandable
and forgivable that it hardly deserves the name. Thus, whether or not
an act is called racism depends on the race of the racist. What would
surely be called racism when done by Whites is thought to be normal
when done by anyone else. The reverse is also true.
Examples of this sort of double standard are so common, it is almost
tedious to list them: When a White man kills a black man and uses the
word "nigger" while doing so, there is an enormous media uproar and
the nation beats its collective breast; when members of the black
Yahweh cult carry out ritual murders of random Whites, the media are
silent (see AR of March, 1991). College campuses forbid pejorative
statements about non-Whites as "racist," but ignore scurrilous attacks
on Whites.
At election time, if 60 percent of the White voters vote for a White
candidate, and 95 percent of the black voters vote for the black
opponent, it is Whites who are accused of racial bias. There are 107
"historically black" colleges, whose fundamental blackness must be
preserved in the name of diversity, but all historically White
colleges must be forcibly integrated in the name of... the same thing.
To resist would be racist.
"Black pride" is said to be a wonderful and worthy thing, but anything
that could be construed as an expression of White pride is a form of
hatred. It is perfectly natural for third-world immigrants to expect
school instruction and driver's tests in their own languages, whereas
for native Americans to ask them to learn English is racist.
Blatant anti-White prejudice, in the form of affirmative action, is
now the law of the land. Anything remotely like affirmative action, if
practiced in favor of Whites, would be attacked as despicable
favoritism.
All across the country, black, Hispanic, and Asian clubs and caucuses
are thought to be fine expressions of ethnic solidarity, but any club
or association expressly for Whites is by definition racist. The
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)
campaigns openly for black advantage but is a respected "civil rights"
organization. The National Association for the Advancement of White
People (NAAWP) campaigns merely for equal treatment of all races, but
is said to be viciously racist.
At a few college campuses, students opposed to affirmative action have
set up student unions for Whites, analogous to those for blacks,
Hispanics, etc, and have been roundly condemned as racists. Recently,
when the White students at Lowell High School in San Francisco found
themselves to be a minority, they asked for a racially exclusive club
like the ones that non-Whites have. They were turned down in horror.
Indeed, in America today, any club not specifically formed to be a
White enclave but whose members simply happen all to be White is
branded as racist.
Today, one of the favorite slogans that define the asymmetric quality
of American racism is "celebration of diversity." It has begun to dawn
on a few people that "diversity" is always achieved at the expense of
Whites (and sometimes men), and never the other way around. No one
proposes that Howard University be made more diverse by admitting
Whites, Hispanics, or Asians. No one ever suggests that National
Hispanic University in San Jose (CA) would benefit from the diversity
of having non-Hispanics on campus. No one suggests that the Black
Congressional Caucus or the executive ranks of the NAACP or the
Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund suffer from a lack
of diversity. Somehow, it is perfectly legitimate for them to
celebrate homogeneity. And yet any all-White group - a company, a
town, a school, a club, a neighborhood - is thought to suffer from a
crippling lack of diversity that must be remedied as quickly as
possible. Only when Whites have been reduced to a minority has
"diversity" been achieved.
Let us put it bluntly: To "celebrate" or "embrace" diversity, as we
are so often asked to do, is no different from deploring an excess of
Whites. In fact, the entire nation is thought to suffer from an excess
of Whites. Our current immigration policies are structured so that
approximately 90 percent of our annual 800,000 legal immigrants are
non-White. The several million illegal immigrants that enter the
country every year are virtually all non-White. It would be racist not
to be grateful for this laudable contribution to "diversity." It is,
of course, only White nations that are called upon to practice this
kind of "diversity." It is almost criminal to imagine a nation of any
other race countenancing blatant dispossession of this kind.
What if the United States were pouring its poorest, least educated
citizens across the border into Mexico? Could anyone be fooled into
thinking that Mexico was being "culturally enriched?" What if the
state of Chihuahua were losing its majority population to poor Whites
who demanded that schools be taught in English, who insisted on
celebrating the Fourth of July, who demanded the right to vote even if
they weren't citizens, who clamored for "affirmative action" in jobs
and schooling?
Would Mexico - or any other non-White nation - tolerate this kind of
cultural and demographic depredation? Of course not. Yet White
Americans are supposed to look upon the flood of Hispanics and Asians
entering their country as a priceless cultural gift. They are supposed
to "celebrate" their own loss of influence, their own dwindling
numbers, their own dispossession, for to do otherwise would be
hopelessly racist.
There is another curious asymmetry about American racism. When non-
Whites advance their own racial purposes, no one ever accuses them of
"hating" another group. Blacks can join "civil rights" groups and
Hispanics can be activists without fear of being branded as bigots and
hate mongers. They can agitate openly for racial preferences that can
come only at the expense of whites. They can demand preferential
treatment of all kinds without anyone ever suggesting that they are
"anti-white."
Whites, on the other hand, need only express their opposition to
affirmative action to be called haters. They need only subject racial
policies that are clearly prejudicial to themselves to be called
racists. Should they actually go so far as to say that they prefer the
company of their own kind, that they wish to be left alone to enjoy
the fruits of their European heritage, they are irredeemably wicked
and hateful.
Here, then is the final, baffling inconsistency about American race
relations. All non-whites are allowed to prefer the company of their
own kind, to think of themselves as groups with interests distinct
from those of the whole, and to work openly for group advantage. None
of this is thought to be racist. At the same time, whites must also
champion the racial interests of non-whites. They must sacrifice their
own future on the altar of "diversity" and cooperate in their own
dispossession. They are to encourage, even to subsidize, the
displacement of a European people and culture by alien peoples and
cultures. To put it in the simplest possible terms, White people are
cheerfully to slaughter their own society, to commit racial and
cultural suicide. To refuse to do so would be racism.
Of course, the entire non-white enterprise in the United States is
perfectly natural and healthy. Nothing could be more natural than to
love one's people and to hope that it should flourish. Filipinos and
El Salvadorans are doubtless astonished to discover that simply by
setting foot in the United States they are entitled to affirmative
action preferences over native-born whites, but can they be blamed for
accepting them? Is it surprising that they should want their
languages, their cultures, their brothers and sisters to take
possession and put their mark indelibly on the land? If the once-great
people of a once-great nation is bent upon self-destruction and is
prepared to hand over land and power to whomever shows up and asks for
it, why should Mexicans and Cambodians complain?
No, it is the White enterprise in the United States that is unnatural,
unhealthy, and without historical precedent. Whites have let
themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to
dispossession, much less to work for their own interests. Never in the
history of the world has a dominant people thrown open the gates to
strangers, and poured out its wealth to aliens. Never before has a
people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in
surrendering its heritage, and giving away to others its place in
history. Of all the races in America, only whites have been tricked
into thinking that a preference for one's own kind is racism. Only
whites are ever told that a love for their own people is somehow
"hatred" of others. All healthy people prefer the company of their own
kind, and it has nothing to do with hatred. All men love their
families more than their neighbors, but this does not mean that they
hate their neighbors. Whites who love their racial family need bear no
ill will towards non-whites. They only wish to be left alone to
participate in the unfolding of their racial and cultural destinies.
What whites in America are being asked to do is therefore utterly
unnatural. They are being asked to devote themselves to the interests
of other races and to ignore the interests of their own. This is like
asking a man to forsake his own children and love the children of his
neighbors, since to do otherwise would be "racist."
What then, is "racism?" It is considerably more than any dictionary is
likely to say. It is any opposition by whites to official policies of
racial preference for non-whites. It is any preference by whites for
their own people and culture. It is any resistance by whites to the
idea of becoming a minority people. It is any unwillingness to be
pushed aside. It is, in short, any of the normal aspirations of
people-hood that have defined nations since the beginning of history -
but only so long as the aspirations are those of whites.

Flame of the West

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Een Wilde Ier <theu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

> >>Indigenous Britons will be a minority by 2100. John Morse asks: Have
> >>our people the will to survive?
> >
> > I don't see the point of all this. The demographics are every bit as
> > grim as you say,
>
> No, they aren't 'grim' at all. You have no more right to controlling
> North America than any other non-Amerindian group.

LOL! I'm talking about *you*, mate, not us! Look a few lines up: the
story was about "indigenous Britons", not Americans! (Of course
I think neptune's bunch define "indigenous Britons" to include the
descendants of the Anglo-Saxons as well as earlier waves of invaders.)

The US is doing OK; we just absorb immigrants from Latin America,
another ex-European region just like ourselves. You Europeans are the
ones with the big problem. You can't possibly maintain your welfare
states without bringing in immigrants faster than you can possibly
assimilate them. This is bound to change your culture. You may not
think it's grim, but I think it's sad to watch an ancient world culture
going under before my eyes.

> Why are you even engaging in this, given your own background? It wasn't
> so long ago that non-WASPS were a scare issue, after all.

Oh, it still is! There's a lot of panic about the waves of Mexican immigrants.
Not right here, though - I live in a very multicultural region.

> Nobody's "dying", though it is a term much-favoured by white
> supremacists (whether in the American South or South Africa, or anywhere
> in between). There's demographic swings, that's all.

Tell that to the Russians and Japanese. A long-term trend is not a
"swing". There's no way out of this nosedive.

> > It's already obvious that Africa will in the future be the center of
> > Christian civilization. The majority of the world's Anglicans live there,
> > and it would not be surprising to see the next Pope come from there.
> > Meantime the "white" nations will continue to sink into their suicidal
> > final decline, led by Russia.
>
> Don't be so melodramatic. Once they become imbued by suburban
> comsumerist culture (and agriculture becomes the province of
> corporations), they'll see a sharp decline in birthrate as well.

Not until desease (e.g. AIDS) gets under control. They still have the
"have ten raise two" problem.

Michael O'Neill

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Flame of the West wrote:
>
> Een Wilde Ier <theu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:
>
> > >>Indigenous Britons will be a minority by 2100. John Morse asks: Have
> > >>our people the will to survive?
> > >
> > > I don't see the point of all this. The demographics are every bit as
> > > grim as you say,
> >
> > No, they aren't 'grim' at all. You have no more right to controlling
> > North America than any other non-Amerindian group.
>
> LOL! I'm talking about *you*, mate, not us! Look a few lines up: the
> story was about "indigenous Britons", not Americans! (Of course
> I think neptune's bunch define "indigenous Britons" to include the
> descendants of the Anglo-Saxons as well as earlier waves of invaders.)
>
> The US is doing OK; we just absorb immigrants from Latin America,
> another ex-European region just like ourselves.
<snip>

You don't "absorb".

Faced with dumbed-down students producing dumbed-down graduates, you have
to actively seek to import intelligent people to make up for the lack
caused by the dumb, unmotivated, I've-got-my-MTV ones that are somehow
produced [from an excellent genetic mix BTW] by your
designed-to-make-them-dumb-er educational system and lazy-ass,
suck-my-dick-an-make-your-day society.

What are you going to do when the Euro replaces the Dollar as a world
reserve currency and Oil gets priced in Euros?

Open American's legs still wider to "flight capital" and drug "revenues"?

How long will ordinary Americans continue to take it up the ass before
they realize that its only the white collar and blue collar workers who
are paying taxes?

How long will ordinary Americans continue to take it up the ass before
they realize that the ruling classes, the oligarchs and their offspring
not only don't pay taxes, but also don't send their scions to war, to be
killed by indignant Muslims whose country they are illegally occupying?

How long will ordinary Americans continue to take it up the ass before
they realize that what happened at their history's most terrible
junctures [Pearl, Tonkin, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Kennedy, Luther King,
9-11, Afganistan and Iraq] only happened to fill the coffers of Big
Business, to keep the party going, not just going per se, not just
ticking over, but to keep it going WELL?

As far as Neptune3's posts go, yes he is extreme, but Mussolini certainly
had the right idea when he wanted to control Capital.

Its only an engine to drive economic growth. Just as pop singers should
stay out of politics, Capital; -

(i) shouldn't determine the course of Scientific Research.

(ii) shouldn't determine the course of Foreign Policy.

(iii) shouldn't determine who is elected to the Presidency.

(iv) shouldn't determine the HEW spend

Yet that's what Capital does, in all cases.
That's why America is so fucked up.
Give it 50 years.

In 50 years people driving fuel cell cars with plentiful electricity and
clean power will be wondering what all the fuss was about.

Of course, WE know its about élite deviance hiding behind Christian
Fundamentalism wrapped in the Flag. That's what its always been about.


M.


Ob Tolkien:

"For imagining war he has let loose war, believing that he has no time to
waste; for he that strikes the first blow, if he strikes it hard enough,
may need to strike no more. So the forces that he has long been preparing
he is now setting in motion, sooner than he intended. Wise fool."

-- Gandalf from The Two Towers: The White Rider


Ob Dune:

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe
nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong - faster
and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget
that a precipice does not show itself to a man in a blind rush until it's
too late."

--Bene Gesserit proverb

Tar-Elenion

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Apr 17, 2004, 5:49:47 PM4/17/04
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In article <40819F59...@indigo.ie>, o...@indigo.ie says...

>
> How long will ordinary Americans continue to take it up the ass before
> they realize that what happened at their history's most terrible
> junctures [Pearl, Tonkin, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Kennedy, Luther King,
> 9-11, Afganistan and Iraq] only happened to fill the coffers of Big
> Business, to keep the party going, not just going per se, not just
> ticking over, but to keep it going WELL?
>

Next time it is Uncle Mikey's storytime can you tell us how the CIA was
actually the force behind Karl Marx? Pretty please.
;)

--
Tar-Elenion

He is a warrior, and a spirit of wrath. In every
stroke that he deals he sees the Enemy who long
ago did thee this hurt.

Michael O'Neill

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Apr 17, 2004, 6:27:16 PM4/17/04
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<snip>

I seem to recall rebutting this chestnut earlier. In summary, bigger,
poorer families tend to not produce environments conducive to learning to
read and learn in the first five years. Once lost this is ground that is
difficult to make up.

Do the demographics again, this time with a household income -vs- family
size filter and see what the correlation is like. It'll bear me out, but
that won't suit the racist mindset, which consistently replaces correct
reasoning with "it appears clear to me" reasoning.

As regards I.Q. I think you'd want to look at your assessment of Indian
I.Q. again.

Try entering Cryptography + Indian in your search engine.

Then replace Cryptography with Physics.

Then replace it with Mathematics.

And as far as your "they-invented-nothing" blacks go, catch this:

From:

http://www.blackinventor.com/

In no particular order, just as they caught my eye as I was scanning down
a very long page;

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/benjaminbanneker.html

Benjamin Banneker was born in 1731 just outside of Baltimore, Maryland,
the son of a slave. His grandfather had been a member of a royal family
in Africa and was wise in agricultural endeavors. As a young man, he was
allowed to enroll in a school run by Quakers and excelled in his studies,
particularly in mathematics. Soon, he had progressed beyond the
capabilities of his teacher and would often make up his own math problems
in order to solve them.

One day his family was introduced to a man named Josef Levi who owned a
watch. Young Benjamin was so fascinated by the object that Mr. Levi gave
it to him to keep, explaining how it worked. Over the course of the next
few days, Benjamin repeatedly took the watch apart and then put it back
together. After borrowing a book on geometry and another on Isaac
Newton's Principia (laws of motion) he made plans to build a larger
version of the watch, mimicking a picture he had seen of a clock. After
two years of designing the clock and carving each piece by hand,
including the gears, Banneker had successfully created the first clock
ever built in the United States. For the next thirty years, the clock
kept perfect time.

In 1776, the Third Continental Congress met and submitted the
Declaration of Independence from England. Soon thereafter, the
Revolutionary War broke out an Banneker set out to grow crops of wheat in
order to help feed American troops. His knowledge of soil gained from his
grandfather allowed him to raise crops in areas which had previously
stood barren for years.

When a family friend died and left him a book on astronomy, a telescope
and other scientific inventions, Banneker became fascinated with the
stars and the skies. He soon was able to predict events such as solar
eclipses and sunrises and sunsets. In 1792, he developed his first
almanac, predicting weather and seasonal changes and also included tips
on planting crops and medical remedies. Banneker sent a copy of his book
to Thomas Jefferson, at that time the Secretary of State and in a twelve
page later expressed to Jefferson that Blacks in the United States
possessed equal intellectual capacity and mental capabilities as those
Whites who were described in the Declaration of Independence. As such, he
stated, Blacks should also be afforded the same rights and opportunities
afforded to whites. This began a long correspondence between the two men
that would extend over several years.

Around the same time, President Washington decided to move the Nation's
Capitol from Philadelphia to an area on the border of Maryland and
Virginia. Major Pierre L'Enfant from France was commissioned to develop
the plans for for the new city and at Jefferson's request, Banneker was
included as one of the men appointed to assist him. Banneker consulted
frequently with L'Enfant and studied his draft and plans for the Capitol
City carefully. L'Enfant was subject to great criticism and hostility
because he was a foreigner and abruptly resigned from the project and
moved back to France.

As the remaining members of the team gathered, they began debating as to
how they should start from scratch. Banneker surprised them when he
asserted that he could reproduce the plans from memory and in two days
did exactly as he had promised. The plans he drew were the basis for the
layout of streets, buildings and monuments that exist to this day in
Washington D.C.

Benjamin Banneker died quietly on October 25, 1806, lying in a field
looking at the stars through his telescope. Nations around the world
mourned his passing, viewing him as a genius and the United States' first
great Black Inventor.


http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/wbpurvis.html

W. B. Purvis realized how much of an inconvenience it was to have to
carry around a bottle of ink whenever you needed to sign a contract or
fill out legal papers. He therefore decided to do something about it.

On January 7, 1890, Purvis received a patent for the fountain pen. The
pen eliminated the need for an ink bottle by storing ink within a
reservoir within the pen which is then fed to the pen's tip. Of his
accomplishment, Purvis said, "the object of my invention is to provide a
simple, durable, and inexpensive construction of a fountain pen adapted
to general use and which may be carried in the pocket." The creation of
the fountain pen has made office work cleaner and less expensive for
businesses all over the world.

In addition to his fountain pen, Purvis, a resident of Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania, also successfully patented a number of other inventions.
Between 1884 and 1897 he patented bag machines, a bag fastener, a hand
stamp, an electric railway device, an electric railway switch and a
magnetic car balancing device. He also is believed to have invented , yet
not patented several other devices such as the edge cutter found on
aluminum foil, cling wrap and wax paper boxes.

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/granvillewoods.html

The magnitude of an inventors work can often be defined by the esteem in
which he is held by fellow inventors. If this is the case, then Granville
Woods was certainly a respected inventor as he was often referred to as
the "Black Thomas Edison."

Granville Woods was born on April 23, 1856 in Columbus, Ohio. He spent
his early years attending school until the age of 10 at which point he
began working in a machine shop repairing railroad equipment and
machinery. Intrigued by the electricity that powered the machinery, Woods
studied other machine workers as they attended to different pieces of
equipment and paid other workers to sit down and explain electrical
concepts to him. Over the next few years, Woods moved around the country
working on railroads and in steel rolling mills. This experience helped
to prepare him for a formal education studying engineering (surprisingly,
it is unknown exactly where he attended school but it is believed it was
an eastern college.)

After two years of studying, Woods obtained a job as an engineer on a
British steamship called the Ironsides. Two years later he obtained
employment with D & S Railroads, driving a steam locomotive.
Unfortunately, despite his high aptitude and valuable education and
expertise, Woods was denied opportunities and promotions because of the
color of his skin. Out of frustration and a desire to promote his
abilities, Woods, along with his brother Lyates, formed the Woods Railway
Telegraph Company in 1884. The company manufactured and sold telephone,
telegraph and electrical equipment. One of the early inventions from the
company was an improved steam boiler furnace and this was followed up by
an improved telephone transmitter which had superior clarity of sound and
could provide for longer range of distance for transmission.

In 1885, Woods patented a apparatus which was a combination of a
telephone and a telegraph. The device, which he called "telegraphony,"
would allow a telegraph station to send voice and telegraph messages over
a single wire. The device was so successful that he later sold it to the
American Bell Telephone Company. In 1987, Woods developed his most
important invention to date - a device he called Synchronous Multiplex
Railway Telegraph. A variation of the "induction telegraph," it allowed
for messages to be sent from moving trains and railway stations. By
allowing dispatchers to know the location of each train, it provided for
greater safety and a decrease in railway accidents.

Granville Woods often had difficulties in enjoying his success as other
inventors made claims to his devices. Thomas Edison made one of these
claims, stating that he had first created a similar telegraph and that he
was entitled to the patent for the device. Woods was twice successful in
defending himself, proving that there were no other devices upon which he
could have depended or relied upon to make his device. After the second
defeat, Edison decided that it would be better to work with Granville
Woods than against him and thus offered him a position with the Edison
Company.

In 1892, Woods used his knowledge of electrical systems in creating a
method of supplying electricity to a train without any exposed wires or
secondary batteries. Approximately every 12 feet, electricity would be
passed to the train as it passed over an iron block. He first
demonstrated the device as an amusement apparatus at the Coney Island
amusement park and while it amused patrons, it would be a novel approach
towards making safer travel for trains. Many of Woods inventions
attempted to increase efficiency and safety railroad cars, Woods
developed the concept of a third rail which would allow a train to
receive more electricity while also encountering less friction. This
concept is still used on subway train platforms in major cities in the
United States.

Over the course of his life time Granville Woods would obtain more than
50 patents for inventions including an automatic brake and an egg
incubator and for improvements to other inventions such as safety
circuits, telegraph, telephone, and phonograph. When he died on January
30, 1910 in New York City he had become an admired and well respected
inventor, having sold a number of his devices to such giants as
Westinghouse, General Electric and American Engineering - more
importantly the world knew him as the Black Thomas Edison.

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/sarahboone.html

Sarah Boone received a patent on April 26, 1892 for a device which would
help to neatly iron clothing. This device, the predecessor to our modern
ironing board was made of a narrow wooden board, with collapsible legs
and a padded cover and was specifically designed for the fitted clothing
worn during that time period.

Prior to her inventions, people were forced to resort to simply using a
table or being creative in laying a plank of wood across two chairs or
small tables.

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/andrewbeard.html

Andrew Jackson Beard hailed from Eastlake, Alabama, a small town outside
of Birmingham. With the emergence of the railroad industry and its rapid
expansion throughout the country, an alarming number of railmen suffered
serious injuries to their arms and legs when they were crushed during
manual style coupling of railroad cars. During manual coupling, a worker
would have to attempt to precisely time the moment when two railroad cars
being pushed together would be close enough for that worker to drop a
metal pin between their connectors, thus engaging the cars. If the worker
was off by one second he might severe damage his arm or leg - many in
fact had to undergo amputation.

On November 27, 1897 Beard received a patent for a device he called the
Jenny Coupler. The Jenny Coupler automatically joined cars by simply
allowing them to bump into each other, or as Beard described it the
"horizontal jaws engage each other to connect the cars." Beard sold the
rights to his invention for $50,000.00 and the railroad industry was
revolutionized.

During his lifetime, Beard received a number of other patents, including
a steam driven rotary engine, and a double plow.

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/danielwilliams.html

Daniel Hale Williams was born on January 18, 1856 in Hollidaysburg,
Pennsylvania. He was the fifth of seven children born to Daniel and Sarah
Williams. Daniel's father was a barber and moved the family to Annapolis,
Maryland but died shortly thereafter of tuberculosis. Daniel's mother
realized she could not manage the entire family and sent some of the
children to live with relatives. Daniel was apprenticed to a shoemaker in
Baltimore but ran away to join his mother who had moved to Rockford,
Illinois. He later moved to Edgerton, Wisconsin where he joined his
sister and opened his own barber shop. After moving to nearby Janesville,
Daniel became fascinated with a local physician and decided to follow his
path. He began working as an apprentice to the physician (Dr. Henry
Palmer) for two years and in 1880 entered what is now known as
Northwestern University Medical School. After graduation from
Northwestern in 1883, he opened his own medical office in Chicago,
Illinois.

Because of primitive social and medical circumstances existing in that
era, much of Williams early medical practice called for him to treat
patients in their homes, including conducting occasional surgeries on
kitchen tables. In doing so, Williams utilized many of the emerging
antiseptic, sterilization procedures of the day and thereby gained a
reputation for professionalism. He was soon appointed as a surgeon on the
staff of the South Side Dispensary and then a clinical instructor in
anatomy at Northwestern. In 1889 he was appointed to the Illinois State
Board of Health and one year later set for to create an interracial
hospital.

On January 23, 1891 Daniel Hale Williams established the Provident
Hospital and Training School Association, a three story building which
held 12 beds and served members of the community as a whole. The school
also served to train Black nurses and utilized doctors of all races.
Within its first year, 189 patients were treated at Provident Hospital
and of those 141 saw a complete recovery, 23 had recovered significantly,
three had seen change in their condition and 22 had died. For a brand new
hospital, at that time, to see an 87% success rate was phenomenal
considering the financial and health conditions of the patient, and
primitive conditions of most hospitals. Much can be attributed to
Williams insistence on the highest standards concerning procedures and
sanitary conditions.

Two and a half years later, on July 9, 1893, a young Black man named
James Cornish was injured in a bar fight, stabbed in the chest with a
knife. By the time he was transported to Provident Hospital he was
seeking closer and closer to death, having lost a great deal of blood and
having gone into shock. Williams was faced with the choice of opening the
man's chest and possibly operating internally when that was almost
unheard of in that day in age. Internal operations were unheard of
because any entrance into the chest or abdomen of a patient would almost
surely bring with it resulting infection and therefore death. Williams
made the decision to operate and opened the man's chest. He saw the
damage to the man's pericardium (sac surrounding the heart) and sutured
it, then applied antiseptic procedures before closing his chest. Fifty
one days later, James Cornish walked out of Provident Hospital completely
recovered and would go on to live for another fifty years. Unfortunately,
Williams was so busy with other matters, he did not bother to document
the event and others made claims to have first achieved the feat of
performing open heart surgery. Fortunately, local newspapers of the day
did spread the news and Williams received the acclaim he deserved. It
should be noted however that while he is known as the first person to
perform an open heart surgery, it is actually more noteworthy that he was
the first surgeon to open the chest cavity successfully without the
patient dying of infection. His procedures would therefore be used as
standards for future internal surgeries.

In February 1894, Daniel Hale Williams was appointed as Chief Surgeon at
the Freedmen's Hospital in Washington, D.C. and reorganized the hospital,
creating seven medical and surgical departments, setting up pathological
and bacteriological units, establishing a biracial staff of highly
qualified doctors and nurses and established an internship program.
Recognition of his efforts and their success came when doctors from all
over the country traveled to Washington to view the hospital and to sit
in on surgery performed there. Almost immediately there was an astounding
increase in efficiency as well as a decrease in patient deaths.

During this time, Williams married Alice Johnson and the couple soon
moved to Chicago after Daniel resigned from the Freedmen's hospital. He
resumed his position as Chief Surgeon at Provident Hospital (which could
now accommodate 65 patients) as well as for nearby Mercy Hospital and St.
Luke's Hospital, an exclusive hospital for wealthy White patients. He was
also asked to travel across the country to attend to important patients
or to oversee certain procedures.

When the American Medical Association refused to accept Black members,
Williams helped to set up and served as Vice-President of the National
Medical Association. In 1912, Williams was appointed associate attending
surgeon at St. Luke's and worked there until his retirement from the
practice of medicine.

Upon his retirement, Daniel Hale Williams had bestowed upon him numerous
honors and awards. He received honorary degrees from Howard and
Wilberforce Universities, was named a charter member of the American
College of Surgeons and was a member of the Chicago Surgical Society.

Williams died on August 4, 1931, having set standards and examples for
surgeons, both Black and White, for years to come.

===================================================================================

It seems BLack Inventors are well known around the web, as a glance at
another web page shows - I couldn't be arsed abstracting out the ones
already noted in more detail above, so here it is:

http://www.uwm.edu/StudentOrg/NSBE/bie.html

BENJAMIN BANNEKER

(1731-1806)

Benjamin Banneker was an inventor, a mathematician, an astronomer, a
surveyor, and an essayist. As an inventor, he built a wooden clock which
kept accurate time until he died in 1802 at the age of 75. This homemade
clock is believed to have been the first clock totally built in America.
Born free in Ellicott, Maryland, Banneker was a self-taught man who used
his mathematics skills to develop and publish a widely used almanac which
was issued each year from 1792 to 1806. He spent many nights studying the
stars in order to make his almanac as accurate as possible. As a
surveyor, he helped lay out the streets and buildings of Washington D.C.
And as an essayist, he wrote about the evils of slavery.

JAMES FORTEN

(1766-1842)

James Forten invented a device which made it easier to handle the large
heavy sails of the big ships that sailed the seas before the days of the
steamship. As a boy he loved to go down to the docks along the Delaware
River and watch the ships maneuver up to the pier to unload their cargo.
He noticed how important the expert handling of the sails was in guiding
the ships. At the age of eight he began working in a Philadelphia sail
loft with his father, and some thirty years later bought the sailmaking
shop from the owner. During this time he not only invented and perfected
his device, but also learned all about the sailmaking business. Due
partly to his invention, his sail loft became one of the most prosperous
in the city.

JAN ERNST MATZELIGER

(1852-1889)

Up in Lynn, Massachusetts, near Boston, people in the shoe business
laughed at 25-year-old Jan Ernst Matzeliger when a word got out that this
former sailor was secretly working on a machine that could automatically
make shoes, back in the 1870's. After all, the best brains in the shoe
business had invested thousands of dollars trying to develop such a
machine, and they had failed. "Couldn't be done," they said, as they
continued to make only 40 to 50 pair of shoes per day, by hand. Finally,
Jam, who was good at mechanical things decided he had developed the kind
of machine needed - a machine that could make thousands of pairs of shoes
in a day. In 1883, over ten years after he had started developing his
shoe machine, Matzeliger was granted a patent on it.

GRANVILLE T. WOODS

(1856-1910)

Patents for over 35 electrical inventions were granted Granville T.
Woods, of Columbus, Ohio. Many of this electrical engineer's inventions
were sold to General Electric, Westinghouse, and the Bell Telephone
Company. While Woods, who was born in Columbus, Ohio, April 23, 1856,
invented more than a dozen devices to improve electric railway cars, and
many more for controlling the flow of electricity, his most noted
invention was a system for letting the engineer of a train know how close
his train was to others. This device helped to cut down accidents and
collisions between trains. Among his other top inventions were a steam
boiler furnace and ab automatic air brake used to slow or stop trains.

NORBERT RILLIEUX

(1806-1894)

An engineer, Norbert Rillieux patented a sugar-refining process in 1864
which revolutionized this industry. Son of a slave mother and of the
master of the plantation where he was born in New Orleans, Louisiana, in
1806, Rillieux was educated in France. He also taught school there at the
age of 24 ears. The sugar-refining process he developed greatly reduced
the cost of producing good sugar from sugar cane and from the sugar beet.
He also published papers on the uses of steam and on the steam engine. In
1854, because of discrimination in Louisiana, he left that state for
good, returning to France where he again turned to engineering
inventions.

ANDREW BEARD

(1849?-1921)

Andrew Beard was born a slave on a plantation in Alabama. Before he
became an inventor he was a farmer, carpenter, blacksmith, a railroad
worker, and a businessman. In 1892 he patented his first invention, a
special kind of engine. It was while working in the railroad yards that
he got his idea for a device which would automatically hook railroad cars
together. This device was patented in 1897, and became known as the
"Jenny Coupler." It eliminated the dangerous job of hooking railroad cars
together by hand, and probably saved thousands of lives and limbs of
railroad workers. He improved this device in 1899, and later received
$50,000 for its patent rights.

LEWIS H. LATIMER

(1848-1928)

Son of a runaway slave, Lewis Howard Latimer became an electrical
engineer who worked for Thomas A. Edison, inventor of the light bulb, and
Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone. Many of Latimer's
ideas, including the fine carbon wire which lights up, went into Edison's
light bulb. Latimer was the only African American, and one of the
original 28 persons who formed the "Edison Pioneers," a group dedicated
to keeping alive Edison's ideals. The Edison General Electric Company,
for which Latimer worked, in 1892, merged with a second firm and the new
company became the present General Electric Company. Latimer was also a
noted patent expert, draftsman, author, poet and musician.

ELIJAH McCOY

(1843-1929)

A love of machines and tools led to a lifetime career and the awarding of
57 patents to Elijah Mc Coy, son of former slaves who had fled from
Kentucky to Canada in search of freedom. Until Mc Coy developed a device
which made possible the automatic oiling of machinery used in
manufacturing, companies using such machines had to stop the machines
before oiling them. Oiling of machinery reduces the wear and tear of
friction. So popular did Mc Coy's invention become that person inspecting
new equipment generally asked if it contained the "real Mc Coy," meaning
Mc Coy's oiling device. Today, "real Mc Coy" is an expression is in the
American language meaning the "real thing.' In all, Mc Coy invented 23
oiling devices as well as many other useful inventions. He finally set up
his own manufacturing company to develop and sell his many inventions.

GARRETT A. MORGAN

(1875-1963)

Garrett A. Morgan was a prize-winning inventor who developed a safety
helmet breathing device widely used by firemen in many American cities in
the early 1900's. His invention became popular after he and his brother
used it to rescue over two dozen men who were trapped under Lake Erie, at
Cleveland, Ohio, when an explosion occurred in a tunnel which was under
construction. He was awarded a hold medal by the City of Cleveland for
his heroic rescue. He later received a gold medal at the Second
International Exposition of Safety and Sanitation, in New York, in 1914.
Morgan is best remembered for his invention of the automatic stop sign.
This invention, now called the traffic or "stop light" controls the flow
of vehicles through street intersections.

GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER

(1864-1943)

Probably the best known African American scientist and inventor is George
Washington Carver, who alone, nearly revolutionized agriculture in the
South. At a time when the South's major crop-cotton-was faced with total
destruction by the boll weevil beetle, Dr. Carver, through scientific
experiments showed the South that peanuts, soybeans and sweet potatoes
(yams), among other crops, should be planted, along with cotton. Thus, if
one crop failed, there would be others from which farmers could make
money. Known as "The Wizard of Tuskegee," Dr. carver developed hundreds
of products from the peanut, the soybean, the pecan nut, the sweet
potato, and even the weeds. Today, there are many schools and other
institutions named in memory of Dr. Carver.

H.C. WEBB

(1864-?)>

H.C. Webb invented a machine which cleared away palmettos, an unwanted
kind of growth found in the farm fields of the southeastern region of the
United States. The device looked something like a three-wheeled plow, and
was pulled by a thirty-horsepower engine. It helped farmers to clear away
as much unwanted growth in one day as it normally took ten men 10 days to
clear away - about ten acres. The Webb Palmetto Grubbing Machine was
patented in 1917. Webb also invented a barrel stave machine and a special
kind of drill press but lost the rights to them because he did not have
them patented. But, during this period, hundreds of other African
American inventors developed labor-saving devices for which they did not
receive government patents.

DANIEL H. WILLIAMS

(1858-1931)

Founder of a hospital which still exists in Chicago, medical physician
Dr, Daniel H. Williams is credited with having performed the first
"open-heart" surgery July 9, 1893, long before this kind of surgery was
developed. Dr. Williams saved the life of a knifing victim by "sewing up
his heart." Working in a makeshift operating room too small for the
six-man operating team which helped him, he opened the patient's chest,
exposed the beating heart, and stitched the knife wound a fraction of an
inch from the heart without the aid of X-rays, blood transfusions or
modern "miracle drugs." On August 2, Dr. Williams operated again to
remove some fluid from the chest cavity. On August 30, the patient walked
out of the hospital, and was known to be alive and well 20 years later.

FREDERICK M. JONES

(1893-1961)

The first African American member of the American society of
Refrigeration Engineers, Frederick M. Jones held over 60 patents in a
variety of fields, 40 of them in refrigeration equipment. In 1912, he
built a sound system in a movie theater, and was then hired by a
manufacturer of movie sound systems. In 1939, he designed the first
working truck refrigerator system, which was patented in 1942. Today,
such refrigerators carry fresh meats and some vegetables across the
country. Among his other inventions was the first portable X-ray machine,
a self-starting gasoline motor, and the standard refrigerator design for
all Army and Marine field kitchens. Many of the devices that deliver
tickets and spill out change at movie box offices are Jone's creations.

CHARLES H. TURNER

(1867-1923)

Carles H. Turner, who obtained a Ph.D. degree from the University of
Chicago in 1907, was noted for his knowledge of ants and bees. He
originated a way of watching and recording the habits of insects and
small animals, the way they act toward one another, and the way they
reacted to things that happened to them. A type of behavior in insects is
now called "Turner's circling" after his detailed description. Through
forty-seven research papers which he published between 1892 and 1923, he
showed how humans were a lot like animals and insects, and helped the
world better understand why man acts the way he does.

MADAME C.J. WALKER

(1869-1919)

Before her invention, African American women had to straighten their hair
by placing the hair on a flat surface and then pressing it with a
clothing iron. After her invention was introduced, Sarah Breedlove
Walker, who was known as Madame C.J. Walker, became one of the first
American women of any race to become a millionaire through her own
efforts. Madame Walker invented a hair softener and a special
hair-straightening comb. Before her death in 1919, Madame Walker could
count over 2,000 agents who sold her ever-growing line of Walker products
and demonstrated the "Walker System" of treating hair. Her efforts laid
the foundation for the cosmetics industry among African Americans.

ERNST E. JUST

(1883-1941)

An outstanding research biologist, Dr. Ernest E. Just devoted a lifetime
of study and function of the cell (cytology), the smallest unit of the
body. His studies included how eggs are fertilized, how babies are born,
and how the cells of animals function. In 1915, he won the Spingarn
Medal, the highest award given by the NAACP to the person having done the
most during the year to advance the process of African American people.
He wrote two major books and more than sixty scientific papers in his
field. His book, The Biology of the Cell Surface, which was used in many
colleges, represented his lifetime of research, and was published in
1939, just two years before he died.

LOUIS T. WRIGHT

(1891-1952)

A physician and surgeon, Dr. Louis T. Wright originated a method of
operating on fractures about the knee joint, a brace for fractures of the
spine, and a vaccination against smallpox, and supervised the first test
of a miracle drug (aureomycin) on humans. He also advanced a new theory
on the treatment of skull fractures and engaged in early cancer research.
Graduating with highest honors from the Harvard Medical School in 1915,
he was commissioned a 1st Lieutenant in the Medical Section of the
Officers Reserve Corps in 1917, and rose to the rank of Lieutenant
Colonel in the U.S. Army during World War I. In 191, he became the first
African American to be appointed to a New York City Municipal Hospital
(Harlem Hospital) where he helped lower the death rate and increase the
professional standards.

WILLIAM A. HINTON

(1883-1959)

A specialist in the study and development of medicines to fight diseases,
Dr. William A. Hinton is best known for the Hinton-Davies test used to
detect the venereal disease, syphilis. In 1936, he wrote a text book on
his studies, and became recognized as one of the worlds foremost
authorities on the diagnosis and treatment of syphilis. Only three years
after getting his doctor's degree from Harvard Medical School in 1912, he
was made an instructor in preventive medicine and hygiene at his fortune
university. It is said that he could have made a fortune in private
practice, but he chose to serve humanity by working in the field of
public health.

PERCY JULIAN

(1891-1975)

Finding a remedy for arthritis led to fame and fortune for Dr. Percy
Julian, a noted chemical scientist. But, more important was the fact that
his discovery made the medicine for this painful disease available to
everyone at a much more reasonable price. Dr. Julian developed a way of
making the medicine from the inexpensive American soybean instead of from
the costly ingredient found in certain parts of animals and produced in
Europe. At one time, he was president of two companies which he formed to
produce this medicine. He later sold one of the companies to a leading
medicine-making (pharmaceutical) firm for several million dollars.

THEODORE K. LAWLESS

(1892-1971)

Dr. Theodore K. Lawless was a skin specialist (dermatologist) who became
a millionaire form his studies, practice and development of medicines. He
also contributed to the better understanding of syphilis, a venereal
disease; and leprosy, a disease which wastes away the muscles of the
body. Setting up his offices in the heart of Chicago's Black community,
he established one of the largest and best known skin clinics in the
city. For many years, men and women and children, both black and white,
crowded his waiting room from morning until night. But he still found
time to teach at Northwestern University, work with the staff of
Chicago's Provident Hospital, and share his knowledge with other doctors.
In 1954, he was awarded the NAACP's Spingarn Medal.

MEREDITH GOURDINE

(1929- )

Head of his own manufacturing firm in New Jersy, Meredtih Gourdine, an
engineering scientist , found a way to make high-voltage electricity from
gas. He and the other engineers in his company believe there are many
uses for this discovery in our everyday life. Some of them are:
refrigeration for preserving foods, supplying cheap power for heat and
light in homes, burning coal more efficiently, making sea water drinkable
by taking the salt out of it, making painting and coating processes
easier, and reducing the amount of pollutants in smoke. His company has
already made an exhaust purifying device for automobiles, devices for
measuring air pollution, and generators for power stations.

J. ERNEST WILKINS, JR.

(1923- )

A mathematician, physicist and engineer, J. Ernest WIlkins, Jr.
contributed his skills mainly to the study and development of atomic
power. As a teenager, Wilkins attracted nationwide attention when he
finished college at 17, earned a masters degree on year later, and
received his doctorate degree from the University of Chicago at the age
of 19. For a time, he taught college mathematics, and later worked in the
University of Chicago's metallurgical laboratory. As a relatively young
man of 23, he was supplying the mathematical formulas for the production
of special space-probing telescopes. By the time he was 27 he was
part-owner of a firm which designed and developed nuclear reactors for
creating atomic power.

RUFUS STOKES

(1922-1986)

People who have breathing problems may, in the future, give credit to
Rufus Stokes for helping to ease their problem. In 1968, Mr. Stokes was
granted a patent on an air purification device which reduced the gases
and ashes in smoke to a non-dangerous and invisible level. This not only
helps people, but also improves the health of plants and animals as well
as improving the appearance and durability of buildings, cars and other
things exposed to the air. After building and successfully testing
several models of his machine, Mr. Stokes, in 1973, constructed a small
domestic model and a large mobile model to show that his invention could
be used in many ways.

OTIS BOYKIN

(1920-1982)

An electronic scientist and inventor, Otis Boykin devised the control
unit in artificial heart stimulators, invented a variable resistor device
used in many guided missiles, small components such as thick-film
resistors used in IBM computers, and many other devices including a
burglarproof cash register and a chemical air filter. Starting as an
assistant in a laboratory testing airplane automatic controls, Boykin was
soon developing a type of resistor now used in many computers, radios,
television sets and other electronically controlled devices. Many
products made from his discoveries are manufactured in Paris and
throughout Western Europe. One of his products was approved for use in
military hardware for the Common Market.

VANCE H. MARCHBANKS, JR.

(1905-1973)

As a Colonel and surgeon in the Air Force, Dr. Marchbanks designed a gas
mask testing device, and discovered a method of measuring fatigue in
pilots who had been involved in aircraft accidents. He also did important
research in the control of noise in carious types of airplanes. Before
the first U.S. space shot (Project Mercury) he was appointed project head
physician, and was responsible for determining the effects of space
flight on man, and for collecting medical information on the astronauts
before, during and after their flight. In the 1960's as chief of
environmental health services with United Aircraft Corporation, he
assisted in the designing of space suits and monitoring systems for the
Apollo moon shot.

JOHN B. CHRISTIAN

(1927- )

As a materials research engineer for the Air FOrce, John Christian
developed and patented a variety of revolutionary lubricants that saved
pilots' lives in combat and contributed to the success of the astronaut's
mission on the moon. The lubricants, resembling cake frosting more than
oil, could withstand temperatures ranging from minus 50 to 600 degrees.
In Vietnam, when the helicopters' oil lines were punctured by ground
fire, the "soap" lubricants enabled them toe return to their base. They
were also used in the astronaut's back-pack life support systems, without
which there could have been no moon landing, and were used in the
four-wheel drive of the "moon-buggy" making it possible to extend their
moon exploration by 36 hours.

GEORGE R. CARRUTHERS

(1940- )

Astro-physicist Dr. George Carruthers was the principal scientist
responsible for the development of a special camera that made the trip to
the moon aboard the Apollo 16 in 1972. Called the "far-ultra-violet
camera/spectograph," the 50-pound, gold-plated unit was designed to study
the earth's upper atmosphere and other interplanetary conditions. More
than 200 frames of pictures were made of eleven selected targets. In
1973, another model of the camera was made for the Skylab 4 to take
pictures of a comet speeding toward the sun. Carruthers was interested in
science as a child and built his own telescope at the age of ten. From
the age of 25, he made significant contributions to the field of
electronic imaging and space astronomy.

CHARLES W. BUGGS

(1906-1991)

A scientist and educator, Dr. Charles Buggs, of Brunswick, Georgia,
conducted special research on why some bacteria (germs) do not react to
certain medicines. In several articles, he presented his ideas on
penicillin and skin grafting, and the value of chemicals in treating bone
fractures. In 1944, he contributed some of the results of his research to
the world through 12 studies he helped to write. Three years later he
wrote an important article on how to use germ-killing chemicals
(antibiotics) to prevent and cure certain diseases. he also taught
college biology, and made studies and suggestions on premedical education
for African Americans. Dr. Buggs' research and teaching contributed to a
better understanding of health and of the human body.

CHARLES. R. DREW

(1904-1950)

The storing of human blood until it is needed to save someone's life was
the major contribution of Dr. Charles Drew to science and medicine. He
researched the nature of human blood and created what has become known as
"blood banks," places where blood is kept in a special form (plasma)
until needed by injured patients. In 1940, during World War II, the
British asked Dr. Drew to establish a blood bank program for their
country. After the war, he was appointed the first director of the
American Red Cross Blood Bank, supplying plasma to the United States
armed forces. He also became recognized as an outstanding surgeon,
teacher and public servant, and in 1944 was awarded the Spingarn Medal.

================================================

Now Neptune3, you keep denying that blacks invented things and I'll
follow you around Usenet and make your life a misery.

Give credit where its long overdue, or fuck off.

HAND

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Master Crystal.

Is that some sort of apologetic Palantír?

M.

Een Wilde Ier

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Flame of the West wrote:
> Een Wilde Ier <theu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:
>
>
>>>>Indigenous Britons will be a minority by 2100. John Morse asks: Have
>>>>our people the will to survive?
>>>
>>>I don't see the point of all this. The demographics are every bit as
>>>grim as you say,
>>
>>No, they aren't 'grim' at all. You have no more right to controlling
>>North America than any other non-Amerindian group.
>
>
> LOL! I'm talking about *you*, mate, not us! Look a few lines up: the
> story was about "indigenous Britons", not Americans! (Of course
> I think neptune's bunch define "indigenous Britons" to include the
> descendants of the Anglo-Saxons as well as earlier waves of invaders.)

I killfiled Neptune when he first appeared. (And Neptune's natural
constituency undoubtedly has "Papists" somewhere on the list as well, or
at least had until relatively recently)

> The US is doing OK; we just absorb immigrants from Latin America,
> another ex-European region just like ourselves. You Europeans are the
> ones with the big problem. You can't possibly maintain your welfare
> states without bringing in immigrants faster than you can possibly
> assimilate them. This is bound to change your culture. You may not
> think it's grim, but I think it's sad to watch an ancient world culture
> going under before my eyes.

Ancient world cultures beyond count have gone under before. All things
change.

>>Why are you even engaging in this, given your own background? It wasn't
>>so long ago that non-WASPS were a scare issue, after all.
>
>
> Oh, it still is! There's a lot of panic about the waves of Mexican immigrants.
> Not right here, though - I live in a very multicultural region.

As I've said before, North America's immigrant problem goes all the way
back to the seventeenth century...

>>Nobody's "dying", though it is a term much-favoured by white
>>supremacists (whether in the American South or South Africa, or anywhere
>>in between). There's demographic swings, that's all.
>
>
> Tell that to the Russians and Japanese. A long-term trend is not a
> "swing". There's no way out of this nosedive.

The Amish will inherit the Earth!

neptune3

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Apr 18, 2004, 6:18:56 PM4/18/04
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:27:16 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

First of all were any of these inventors pure Black? People are
called Black if they only look slightly Black, they don't have to be
straight from the Congo.

It is still true that Whites invented everything. I notice that an
ironing board is on the list above. What about cars, planes, and all
the big stuff? The list above is mostly about patents involving minor
improvements on things that Whites invented.

Look what happens when a White policeman shoots a Black criminal.
Then Blacks start killing any Whites at random. What would the media
do if the races were reversed? We need to have a nation for White
people. If the theory above is true and all races are equally
intelligent then what could be the problem? The Black nation would be
just as good as the White nation. The Blacks would no longer be
blaming things on the Whites. And everyone would live happily ever
after.

Pip

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"neptune3" <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ndu58010ueurobrjp...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:27:16 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
> wrote:
> >

<small snip>

> >Do the demographics again, this time with a household income -vs- family
> >size filter and see what the correlation is like. It'll bear me out, but
> >that won't suit the racist mindset, which consistently replaces correct
> >reasoning with "it appears clear to me" reasoning.
> >

<HUGE snip of quite factual evidence that was ignored by someone who can't
see past his racist colored glasses>

He loves to stretch - calls it "having an open mind" (laughing at the irony)

>
> First of all were any of these inventors pure Black?

Big stretch here - In effect it says that all intelligence comes from a
single race - the white one. Oh wait a minute, that would point to the idea
that all white peoples are descendants of the Chinese since thay are "more
intelligent than whites". 1+1=13 huh?

> People are
> called Black if they only look slightly Black, they don't have to be
> straight from the Congo.
>
> It is still true that Whites invented everything. I notice that an
> ironing board is on the list above. What about cars, planes, and all
> the big stuff? The list above is mostly about patents involving minor
> improvements on things that Whites invented.
>
> Look what happens when a White policeman shoots a Black criminal.
> Then Blacks start killing any Whites at random. What would the media
> do if the races were reversed? We need to have a nation for White
> people.

Woah! Huge jump here, unsuported by anything written above. What? 1+1 =
7,352,764!

> If the theory above is true and all races are equally
> intelligent then what could be the problem?

Gee... could it be something that a racist is too blind to see and therefore
jumps to the conclusion at which he wants arrive? Kind of like the toddler
who holds his hands over his eyes and says "You can't see me because my eyes
are closed" (And just a childish too!)

<snips the rest of the vomit>


DM

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On 17 Apr 2004 00:20:09 -0700, jsol...@netscape.net (Flame of the West)
wrote:

>The Black nations and India are the third world.


>All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more intelligent
than Blacks.

I see that you have crossposted to alt.california. So my guess is that you
live in California.

Come on now, confess. You are simply envious of all the Californian-Indian
software millionaires. You wish you could be like them, but you can't. So
the best you can do is to come and rant on the net.

Confessing will be good for you, it will be catharsis for your soul. After
confessing you will be able to pass by an Indian millionaire without burning
with envy, and will be able to get on with your own life.

Regards,

DM


neptune3

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:40:53 -0500, "Pip" <Pip_P...@yeehaw.com>
wrote:


>
><HUGE snip of quite factual evidence that was ignored by someone who can't
>see past his racist colored glasses>

by Thomas Jackson


>


>He loves to stretch - calls it "having an open mind" (laughing at the irony)
>
>>
>> First of all were any of these inventors pure Black?
>
>Big stretch here - In effect it says that all intelligence comes from a
>single race - the white one. Oh wait a minute, that would point to the idea
>that all white peoples are descendants of the Chinese since thay are "more
>intelligent than whites". 1+1=13 huh?

The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
multi-culture and pluralism.


>
>> People are
>> called Black if they only look slightly Black, they don't have to be
>> straight from the Congo.
>>
>> It is still true that Whites invented everything. I notice that an
>> ironing board is on the list above. What about cars, planes, and all
>> the big stuff? The list above is mostly about patents involving minor
>> improvements on things that Whites invented.
>>
>> Look what happens when a White policeman shoots a Black criminal.
>> Then Blacks start killing any Whites at random. What would the media
>> do if the races were reversed? We need to have a nation for White
>> people.
>
>Woah! Huge jump here, unsuported by anything written above. What? 1+1 =
>7,352,764!
>
>> If the theory above is true and all races are equally
>> intelligent then what could be the problem?
>
>Gee... could it be something that a racist is too blind to see and therefore
>jumps to the conclusion at which he wants arrive? Kind of like the toddler
>who holds his hands over his eyes and says "You can't see me because my eyes
>are closed" (And just a childish too!)
>
><snips the rest of the vomit>
>

Portugal was once a great nation. It might have been the greatest
nation on earth at one time. But now it is almost like a third world
country. What happened? Race-mixing is what happened. They let a lot
of Black people in and of course the result was racial inter-marriage.
Now the Portuguese people are not as White as they were. We need to
preserve the White race. Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"All that we admire in the world to-day, its science, its art, its
technical developements and discoveries, are the products of the
creative activities of a few peoples, and it may be true that their
first beginnings must be attributed to one race. The maintenance of
civilization is wholly dependant on such peoples. Should they perish,
all that makes this earth beautiful will descend with them into the
grave."
"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the
originally creative race died out, as a result of the contamination on
the blood."
"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art, science
and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is almost
exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very fact
fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who founded
a superior type of humanity"
"The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of the
native Japanese culture., although this characterizes the exterenal
features of the country, which features strike the eye of European
observers on account of their fundamental difference from us; but the
real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the enormous
scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America, that is
to say, of Aryan peoples."
"A people that fails to preserve the purity of its racial blood
thereby destroys the unity of the soul of the nation in all its
manifestations. A disintegrated national character is the inevitable
consequence of the process of disintegration in the blood. And the
change which takes place in the spiritual and creative faculties of a
people is only an effect of the change that had modified its racial
substance."
"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and negroids all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever."
"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one."
"There may be hundreds of excellent States in this earth, and yet if
the Aryan, who is the creator and custodian of civilization, should
disappear, all culture that is on an adequate level with the spiritual
needs of the superior nations to-day would also disappear."
"We National Socialists know that in holding these views we take up a
revolutionary stand in the world to-day and that we are branded as
revolutionaries. But our views and our conduct will not be determined
by the approbation or disapprobation of our contemporaries, but only
by our duty to follow a truth which we have acknowledged. In doing
this we have reason to believe that posterity will have a clearer
insight"
"Thus for the first time a high inner purpose is accredited to the
State. In face of the ridiculous phrase that the State should do no
more than act as the guardian of public order and tranquillity, so
that everybody can peacefully dupe everybody else, it is given a very
high mission indeed to preserve and encourage the highest type of
humanity which a beneficent Creator has bestowed on this earth."

Michael O'Neill

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neptune3 shot himself in the foot when he wrote:

<snip>

> First of all were any of these inventors pure Black? People are
> called Black if they only look slightly Black, they don't have to be
> straight from the Congo.

<sighs>

Yes, they were all black.

> It is still true that Whites invented everything.

No, that's obviously *not* true. You are in denial.

> I notice that an
> ironing board is on the list above. What about cars, planes, and all
> the big stuff? The list above is mostly about patents involving minor
> improvements on things that Whites invented.

No it isn't. You are in denial.

Two brief examples suffice.

Only a fool considers the traffic signal a minor invention. Even with it,
our cities crawl: without it we could not move at all.

Only a fool considers the safe storage of blood a minor invention.
Without it, many victims of road accidents would die.

You probably don't wear that other minor invention, the safety belt, do
you? That was invented by a white man, I think, but I could stand
corrected. Either way, you'd better hope the two black inventions above
work well, because if an idiot like you ignores the first, he'll
definitely need the second.

Just remember that, every time you stop at a red light. A slight
inconvenience invented by a black man is preventing an accident. You owe
your life many times over to a black man.

And if you've ever had a blood transfusion, you owe your life to another
black man, ever and over again, every time your heart beats the blood
that was put back in your body by that transfusion.

I for one am happy to acknowledge the debt that I, a white man, owe to
these two black men. Without them, I wouldn't be alive today.

But do you?

No.

Presented with the facts, which you were unable to rebut [possibly
because you know they *are* facts, or possibly because you're just a
"stupid white man"] you resort to this fantasy:

================================================

> Look what happens when a White policeman shoots a Black criminal.
> Then Blacks start killing any Whites at random. What would the media
> do if the races were reversed? We need to have a nation for White
> people. If the theory above is true and all races are equally
> intelligent then what could be the problem? The Black nation would be
> just as good as the White nation. The Blacks would no longer be
> blaming things on the Whites. And everyone would live happily ever
> after.

================================================

You are one sad, lying, stupid sack of shit.

You can consider you and your assertion that Blacks invented nothing
bitchslapped into oblivion.

Failure to acknowledge the fact that

>>>blacks did invent SOME things*<<<

and that, therefore,

>>>whites did not invent EVERYTHING<<<

marks you out to be a racist fool.


A racist, because you continue to spout white supremacist assertions.

A fool, because you continue to bluster and brag in the face of facts
that comprehensively rebut your assertions.


But I agree we need a nation for white guys like you.

I think Alcatraz is still available...

M.

neptune3

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:28:48 +0100, Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie>
wrote:

>neptune3 shot himself in the foot when he wrote:


>
><snip>
>
>> First of all were any of these inventors pure Black? People are
>> called Black if they only look slightly Black, they don't have to be
>> straight from the Congo.
>
><sighs>
>
>Yes, they were all black.

No they weren't. Give one example of a pure Black inventer and his
invention.

>
>> It is still true that Whites invented everything.
>
>No, that's obviously *not* true. You are in denial.

Whites made all the big inventions. You can nit-pick it but it is
only nit-picking.

>You are one sad, lying, stupid sack of shit.
>
>You can consider you and your assertion that Blacks invented nothing
>bitchslapped into oblivion.
>
>Failure to acknowledge the fact that
>
>>>>blacks did invent SOME things*<<<
>
>and that, therefore,
>
>>>>whites did not invent EVERYTHING<<<
>
>marks you out to be a racist fool.
>
>
>A racist, because you continue to spout white supremacist assertions.
>
>A fool, because you continue to bluster and brag in the face of facts
>that comprehensively rebut your assertions.
>
>
>But I agree we need a nation for white guys like you.
>
>I think Alcatraz is still available...
>

It's like an extension of your biological family and you ought to be
proud

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just contribute
to

he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's
too late."

Or will they?

neptune3

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:02:50 GMT, "DM" <dominan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>
>I see that you have crossposted to alt.california. So my guess is that you
>live in California.

I don't why people write such things. Don't they know most people
just click the reply button and forget to look at that? Any way
alt.california is gone now.

>
>Come on now, confess. You are simply envious of all the Californian-Indian
>software millionaires. You wish you could be like them, but you can't. So
>the best you can do is to come and rant on the net.
>
>Confessing will be good for you, it will be catharsis for your soul. After
>confessing you will be able to pass by an Indian millionaire without burning
>with envy, and will be able to get on with your own life.
>

Here are some quotes from "The Oregon Trail" written by Francis

bobbyhaqq

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neptune3 <np...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<unv880drmbuhai2p0...@4ax.com>...

> by Thomas Jackson
> There is surely no nation in the world that holds "racism" in greater
> horror than does the United States.

And yet it is so good at it.

What is the war in Iraq but an attack on members of a race for the
crimes of other memebers of hte same race? Unless any of you idiots
are dumb enough to believe this is about freedom.

Michael O'Neill

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Apr 21, 2004, 6:31:45 AM4/21/04
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Tar-Elenion wrote:
>
> In article <40819F59...@indigo.ie>, o...@indigo.ie says...
>
> >
> > How long will ordinary Americans continue to take it up the ass before
> > they realize that what happened at their history's most terrible
> > junctures [Pearl, Tonkin, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Kennedy, Luther King,
> > 9-11, Afganistan and Iraq] only happened to fill the coffers of Big
> > Business, to keep the party going, not just going per se, not just
> > ticking over, but to keep it going WELL?
> >
> Next time it is Uncle Mikey's storytime can you tell us how the CIA was
> actually the force behind Karl Marx? Pretty please.
> ;)

I realize that Americans for years saw EVERYTHING in terms of teh
Communist Threat, but I thought you'd all gotten over that.

"Tonkin" is the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

If that wasn't what you were getting at, please tell us a story.

M.

Michael O'Neill

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Snip Another Repost of:

"It's a Wonderful Race" -- by James Bronson.


Either reply to my points, adressing your past errors of fact, or shut
the fuck up.

M.

Rohan

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Apr 21, 2004, 12:15:35 PM4/21/04
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Michael O'Neill <o...@indigo.ie> wrote:
> > All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
> > intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
> > important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
> > the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
> > are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
> >
> > "One of the most powerful direct studies of race and environment
> > was conducted by psychologists Sandra Scarr, Richard Weinberg and I.
> > D. Waldman. All three were quite well-known for their
> <snip>
>
> I seem to recall rebutting this chestnut earlier. In summary, bigger,
> poorer families tend to not produce environments conducive to learning to
> read and learn in the first five years. Once lost this is ground that is
> difficult to make up.
>
> Do the demographics again, this time with a household income -vs- family
> size filter and see what the correlation is like. It'll bear me out, but
> that won't suit the racist mindset, which consistently replaces correct
> reasoning with "it appears clear to me" reasoning.

What he was referring to was the: "The Minnesota Transracial Adoption
Study." [Scarr and Weinberg (1973); Weinberg, Scarr, & Waldman
(1992)].

What you said above doesn't rebut that "chestnut". Either you didn't
understand the study or you are confusing it with something else. It
had nothing to do with income. The study compared the IQs of white
children adopted into white families, black children adopted into
black families, and black children adopted into white families. It was
a ten year project that involved 101 families and 321 children and
compared their IQs at ages 7 and 17.
The final results were greatly disappointing for the liberal
researchers. End result: white children adopted into white families
scored an average of 105.6, blacks adopted into white homes scored
average of 98.6 (substantially below their white siblings), blacks
adopted into black homes scored on average 89.4.

Environment/income would be hard to blame since all adoptive families
were required to have a stable home environment and adequate income.
It would be also hard to blame racism, since it is unlikely that a
white family who adopts a black child harbors racist tendencies.
A more detailed commentary on this study is available at:
http://www.ferris.edu/isar/Whitney/shockley.htm


>
> As regards I.Q. I think you'd want to look at your assessment of Indian
> I.Q. again.
>
> Try entering Cryptography + Indian in your search engine.
>
> Then replace Cryptography with Physics.
>
> Then replace it with Mathematics.
>
> And as far as your "they-invented-nothing" blacks go, catch this:
>
> From:
>
> http://www.blackinventor.com/
>
> In no particular order, just as they caught my eye as I was scanning down
> a very long page;
>

<snip>

This website is better than most I've seen. I have seen others that
attribute the inventions of writing, paper, and civilization to black
Africans (in a quantum leap assumption that the ancient Egyptians were
black, and a misunderstanding of those acheivements anyway).

Still, your list duplicates several names, and some of these
"inventions" are rather weak. Additionally, one thing I have heard
elsewhere, (and not seen disproven) is that with the exception of
Elijah McCoy (mentioned in your list), none of these black inventors
were purely black.
Native sub-saharan Africans never invented anything. They never
developed a system of writing, a system of measurement, or simple
inventions like the wheel. They never domesticated any animals for
transport or agriculture even though there were plenty of large
animals around. Even today, the only nation in Africa which even came
close to western standards of living was the one that was governed by
whites for so long - South Africa. (And since the fall of white rule,
it has become the rape capital of the world). These are facts which
are unpleasant to me, and I dont even like repeating them. But truth
is often upleasant.
If you could disprove me, I would be glad for it. But I won't hold my
breath.

Rohan

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