Re: Protesters and the Virus, who will they blame?

[Phantom_View]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 12:54:38 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

>"Mattb" wrote in message news:iiukdfl2hmrqoktsr...@4ax.com...
>>
>> With these protest I expect a great increase in both cases and deaths from
>> the Coronavirus. Who will the MSM blame?
>
>As long as the deaths are confined to protestors, no biggie...

They will see it as their mission to spread it around in
the holy name of anarchy.

Hmm .... if the cops cannot control LEFT-wing mobs then
that means they cannot control RIGHT-wing mobs either ....

[M I Wakefield]

"Phantom_View" wrote in message
news:asuldft6k7gr5ivmq...@4ax.com...

> Hmm .... if the cops cannot control LEFT-wing mobs then that means they
> cannot control RIGHT-wing mobs either ....

The cops **have been** the "RIGHT-wing mob" more than once this week.

[Mattb]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:39:59 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
wrote:

Those people that don't like cops lets just stop the use of police
in their neighborhoods. Take whatever taxes they PAY for the police
and put to other uses in those neighborhoods.

[M I Wakefield]

"Mattb" wrote in message news:r4bndf928lcd0nsv2...@4ax.com...

Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a Pulitzer
for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:35:08 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>

wrote:

>"Mattb" wrote in message news:r4bndf928lcd0nsv2...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:39:59 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >"Phantom_View" wrote in message
>> >news:asuldft6k7gr5ivmq...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >> Hmm .... if the cops cannot control LEFT-wing mobs then that means they
>> >> cannot control RIGHT-wing mobs either ....
>> >
>> >The cops **have been** the "RIGHT-wing mob" more than once this week.
>
>> Those people that don't like cops lets just stop the use of police in
>> their neighborhoods. Take whatever taxes they PAY for the police and put
>> to other uses in those neighborhoods.
>
>Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
>Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
>charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a Pulitzer
>for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.

Sad thing is so many good people who wanted to be cops just don't
want to anymore. Who would? So you get what is left and the quality
of the police go down. What I see is police lives don't matter. Many
of the good cops from Seattle have gone elsewhere.

ALL criminals should be treated equal in that I agree with no
preferential treatment based on race.

[David Hartung]

On 6/6/2020 10:43 AM, Mattb wrote:
> ALL criminals should be treated equal in that I agree with no
> preferential treatment based on race.

Racist cops treat blacks who aren't criminals as criminals.

[Mattb]

No kidding did you have a point?

[M I Wakefield]

"Mattb" wrote in message news:m7lndfp32a42dsa5m...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:35:08 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
> wrote:

> >Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
> >Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
> >charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a
> >Pulitzer for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.

> Sad thing is so many good people who wanted to be cops just don't want
> to anymore. Who would?

Such a shame .. and there are so few good job openings for sadists, white
supremacists and racists these days.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <rbgk4d$vm3$1...@dont-email.me>,

"M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote:

> Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
> Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
> charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a Pulitzer
> for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.

Or make the police serve the people instead of themselves.

Not every large city is accused of violent police. (1) Verify
that. (2) If verified, learn what they do right, and apply it
elsewhere.

There continue to be anecdotes of police ignoring 'bad apples',
like ignoring drunk driving. The complete saying is a few bad
apples SPOIL THE BARREL. Police have to hold police to a higher
standard, not make excuses.

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[M I Wakefield]

"Siri Cruise" wrote in message
news:chine.bleu-0E859...@reader.eternal-september.org...

> In article <rbgk4d$vm3$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote:

> > Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
> > Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
> > charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a
> > Pulitzer for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.
>
> Or make the police serve the people instead of themselves.
>
> Not every large city is accused of violent police. (1) Verify that. (2) If
> verified, learn what they do right, and apply it elsewhere.
>
> There continue to be anecdotes of police ignoring 'bad apples', like
> ignoring drunk driving. The complete saying is a few bad apples SPOIL THE
> BARREL. Police have to hold police to a higher standard, not make excuses.

More on Philadelphia police:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/philadelphia-plain-view-project-police-social-media-racism-offensive-facebook.html

[Byker]

>On 6/6/2020 10:43 AM, Mattb wrote:
>> ALL criminals should be treated equal in that I agree with no
>> preferential treatment based on race.
>
>Racist cops treat blacks who aren't criminals as criminals.

How do they know they're not criminals?

[Byker]

> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:35:08 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
> wrote:

> >Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
> >Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
> >charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a
> >Pulitzer for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.

> Sad thing is so many good people who wanted to be cops just don't want
> to anymore. Who would?

In the U.S., if your IQ is above 107, chances are you can just forget about
a career in law enforcement. It's odd that many colleges offer degrees in
Police Science and Criminology, yet police departments prefer to hire those
who fit the "dumb cop" stereotype. This includes detectives. Small wonder
that there are so many high-IQ'd serial killers running around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-swmeaFib88

https://www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/192106/

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630

https://www.quora.com/Do-police-departments-really-not-hire-people-who-are-too-smart-Where-does-this-myth-come-from

No biggie. I never wanted to be a cop anyway...
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Can Someone Be Too Smart To Be A Cop?

Ever called a police officer “stupid” or questioned whether he or she was
actually using their brain? If so, you wouldn’t be alone, and you might not
even be wrong.

By Katie Rucke
June 18, 2014

It turns out that those who have cursed at a police officer for apparently
not using his or her brain or said an officer was being “stupid” may not be
as far off the mark as the American public might hope.

Although it’s not widely known, federal courts have ruled since 2000 that
police departments can legally opt to not hire someone simply because he or
she scores too high on an intelligence test. The millennium ruling followed
a lawsuit filed in 1999 by Connecticut resident Robert Jordan, who was told
by the New London Police Department that they only interview candidates who
score 20 to 27 points on an intelligence test.

Jordan, a 48-year-old college graduate with a degree in literature, had
scored 33 points when he took the Wonderlic Personnel Test in 1996, giving
him an IQ of around 125. His score was well above the 21 to 22 points that
officers score on average, which reflects a slightly above-average IQ of
around 104. (Interestingly, the Wonderlic test recommends that insurance
salespeople score at least 22 points and that police officers score at least
21 — meaning that at least according to the test, it requires more
intelligence to sell insurance than to solve crimes.)

The test, which is used by other employers, not just law enforcement, poses
questions such as: “In the set of words below, what word is different from
the others? A. Beef. B. Mackerel. C. Veal. D. Bacon E. Lamb.”

Based on his Wonderlic test score, Jordan was qualified to become a lawyer,
but he was too smart to be considered for a position with the New London
Police Department.

Jordan filed a lawsuit and took the police department to court, arguing that
he was discriminated against.

”I was eliminated on the basis of my intellectual makeup,” he said. ”It’s
the same as discrimination on the basis of gender or religion or race,” in
that an individual doesn’t necessarily have control of how smart he or she
is.

However, the courts sided with the lower police department. In its ruling,
the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled that the city did
not discriminate against Jordan because the same standards were applied to
everyone who took the test. In other words, no one who was deemed “too
smart” for the job after taking the intelligence test was hired.

Jordan also sued the city of New London, Connecticut, saying that his civil
rights had been violated because he was denied equal protection under the
law. But again, the courts ruled against Jordan, saying that the city of New
London had “shown a rational basis for the policy,” which was that those who
scored above a certain level would likely grow tired of police work and
leave shortly after receiving “costly” training.

Although the court said the policy was unwise, it found that the city had a
rational theory to try and reduce the rate of turnover in the police
department. Jordan decided to not pursue the case further, and has
reportedly been working as a prison guard.

Given that the public’s trust in law enforcement has been shaken in recent
years, departments across the nation are trying to repair that important
relationship with the public by ending controversial policies such as ticket
quotas, detention of suspected illegal immigrants on behalf of Immigration
and Customs Enforcement, and use of stop-and-frisk, since law enforcement
officials are realizing that the work of police officers can’t really be
done without the help of the public.

As Jordan’s story finds its way back into the media, some argue that the
problem the United States has had in recent years with the increased
militarization of civilian police forces is related to the fact that the
only people eligible to become police officers are those who are of “just
above average” intelligence — especially since law enforcement agencies tend
to promote from within. This means that those who eventually become
detectives and solve crimes are the same people who were initially allowed
to become police officers at least partly because they did not score too
high on an intelligence test.

Controversial filmmaker Michael Moore helped expose what happened to Jordan
on his show “The Awful Truth,” which ran from 1999 to 2000.

On the program, Moore sent correspondent Jay Martel to New London to speak
with Richard Brown, New London’s city manager who rejected Jordan’s
application. Martel asked Brown why he wouldn’t allow Jordan to work as a
police officer even though Jordan scored well on the test. Brown responded,
saying that according to the test, people within certain score ranges were
likely to be happy and stay on the job, and he believed Jordan would grow
bored and want to leave.

Martel asked Brown if he ever thought the public would want law enforcement
to be intelligent, which is when Brown asked Martel to leave his office.
When Martel refused and continued asking Brown questions, Brown left his
office and threatened to call security.

During the episode, Martel also went around the city asking police officers
questions from the IQ test to gauge the intelligence of law enforcement.

When he asked police officers the question about which word is not like the
others, one officer responded, “I can’t say that I know, sir.” Police
officers were also unable to answer questions such as the distance to the
city of Hartford, Connecticut, and how long it would take to travel 150
miles to Hartford in a car traveling 55 miles per hour.

In fact, the only people able to correctly answer Martel’s questions were
security guards. One security guard even corrected Martel by informing the
correspondent that Hartford was not 150 miles away, it was only 30 miles
away.

Martel also spoke to some known criminals in the town, who said they are
comforted knowing that they are smarter than the cops because that gives
them about a two-week head start in trying to get away with crimes. When
Martel asked an officer about concerns that criminals were testing higher on
intelligence tests than officers, one officer responded that it wasn’t a
concern for him because it was his “job to enforce crime.”

Around the world and even within the U.S., police are not required to
possess remarkable intelligence. Police reform advocates argue that if the
standards were raised regarding what it takes to become a police officer and
if the pay was better, it would weed out the so-called “dumbasses” who cause
so many lawsuits and are a liability to their departments.

Many of these reform advocates also point to the apparent correlation that’s
been found between police officers’ salaries and the corruption among law
enforcement officials, arguing that the higher the salary, the less likely
law enforcement officials are to engage in corruption.
Mexico is often given as an example of this, as the border city of
Tamaulipas, where officers earn the least amount of money, is also among the
country’s most corrupt cities. A similar relationship between pay and the
rate of corruption has also been seen in Africa, which is why many believe
one step in reforming law enforcement in the U.S. and reducing the police
state, would be to start recruiting people who are well-educated,
intelligent and financially secure.

http://tinyurl.com/mrgpd7c

[MattB]

They have no reason to suspect they are. They simply asssume, "black =
criminal." That's not a valid equation.

[Byker]

"MattB" wrote in message news:IeVCG.52559$yn1....@fx20.iad...

Just the type of person you'd like to be in the same room
alone with: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AzNb6KCok9o/hqdefault.jpg

[Mattb]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 16:57:08 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:35:08 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
>> >Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
>> >charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a
>> >Pulitzer for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.
>
>> Sad thing is so many good people who wanted to be cops just don't want
>> to anymore. Who would?
>
>In the U.S., if your IQ is above 107, chances are you can just forget about
>a career in law enforcement. It's odd that many colleges offer degrees in
>Police Science and Criminology, yet police departments prefer to hire those
>who fit the "dumb cop" stereotype. This includes detectives. Small wonder
>that there are so many high-IQ'd serial killers running around:

It is cheaper to hire low quality. Good Cops if they are smart
leave the larger cities or go private.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 6/6/2020 8:07 PM, Mattb wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 16:57:08 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:35:08 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
>>>> Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
>>>> charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a
>>>> Pulitzer for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.
>>
>>> Sad thing is so many good people who wanted to be cops just don't want
>>> to anymore. Who would?
>>
>> In the U.S., if your IQ is above 107, chances are you can just forget about
>> a career in law enforcement. It's odd that many colleges offer degrees in
>> Police Science and Criminology, yet police departments prefer to hire those
>> who fit the "dumb cop" stereotype. This includes detectives. Small wonder
>> that there are so many high-IQ'd serial killers running around:
>
> It is cheaper to hire low quality. Good Cops if they are smart

You wouldn't know anything about that, being a fucking moron yourself.

--
Fred C. Dobbs don't say nothin' he don't mean.
https://memes.yarn.co/yarn-clip/afe18bcf-0605-4283-8d4a-21f559dd5d3f

[Mattb]

Rudy as a liberal do you vote using all these names also?

[Mattb]

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 10:41:58 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

><yawn> Just more swearing; nothing substantive.

Just the truth. Why does Rudy post from the home of the pedophile
Jonathan?

[John Carlson]

No, it's not the truth, and you would know it isn't the truth if you knew
what liberal means. But you don't know, and you never will, because you
prefer being stupid. You *work* at being stupid.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 15:05:17 -0700, John Carlson <j_ca...@gmx.com>
wrote:

You don't know what liberal is to Americans. Do you believe the
word is the same all over the world?

[Mattb]

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 17:54:55 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

>I do know what it means. You don't. You don't know what it means *anywhere*.

Yes I do and I actually like what it seems to stand for in
Australia.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:54:11 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

>No, you don't. You have no fucking clue what it means.

You have become boring, childish and idiotic with this. EOD.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 16:44:43 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>

wrote:

>"Mattb" wrote in message news:m7lndfp32a42dsa5m...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:35:08 -0400, "M I Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >Or ... hear me out on this one ... maybe just get rid of the bad cops.
>> >Chauvin had averaged one complaint a year. The cop in Philly who was
>> >charged with aggravated assault? The Philadelphia Inquirer won a
>> >Pulitzer for exposing what a bad cop he was in 2010.
>
>> Sad thing is so many good people who wanted to be cops just don't want
>> to anymore. Who would?
>
>Such a shame .. and there are so few good job openings for sadists, white
>supremacists and racists these days.

Then let liberals apply and do the job.

[Mattb]

On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:20:37 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

>Your churlish concession of defeat is noted.

Rudy when all you have is because you say so. Boring.