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The Islamic Antichrist: The Shocking Truth about the Real Nature of the Beast, Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi

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CB

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Jan 10, 2010, 6:46:17 PM1/10/10
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The Islamic Antichrist:
The Shocking Truth about the Real Nature of the Beast
By Joel Richardson

On September 17, 2005, the newly elected president of Iran, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, addressed the United Nations National Assembly in New York
City. Concluding his speech, Ahmadinejad openly prayed and pleaded to Allah
to speedily bring forth the emergence of the mysterious Islamic messiah
figure known as the Mahdi. Journalists and scholars scrambled to understand
exactly what this meant.

In "The Islamic Antichrist", Christian author Joel Richardson breaks new
ground with this devastating account of the possible connection between the
Biblical Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi.

The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace. The
Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and to lead the
nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace. Joel Richardson's stunning
research and analysis suggests that the Mahdi and the Antichrist are
actually one and the same.

In The Islamic Antichrist, Richardson exposes Western readers to the
traditions of Islam and predicts that the end times may not be far away. His
book will stun readers unaware of the similarities between the Antichrist
and the "Islamic Jesus." His research on the relationship between Christian
end-time prophesy and Islamic expectations of world domination will shock
readers and shape the debate over radical Islam for years to come.

This is the book to read to understand Islam's potential role in fulfilling
the prophecies of the Bible.

http://superstore.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=3120


Mitchell Holman

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:20:48 AM1/11/10
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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
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>
>
> The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
> Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace.
> The Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and to
> lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace.


And Linus predicts that the Great Pumpkin will someday
rise out of the pumpkin patch to deliver goodies to all
good girls and boys.

Is there any limit to the fantasies of the religious?

Why should any even believe them, much go to war over them?


CB

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"Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
> news:4b4a66cd$0$4893$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com:
>
>>
>>
>> The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
>> Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace.
>> The Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and to
>> lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace.
>
>
> And Linus predicts that the Great Pumpkin will someday
> rise out of the pumpkin patch to deliver goodies to all
> good girls and boys.

Your contemporary superstitions are childish and shallow, try Something more
deep, as old as time and gives your life purpose

>
> Is there any limit to the fantasies of the religious?

Religion is a shallow overview which pointiheaded Libs ponder into minutia.

>
> Why should any even believe them, much go to war over them?

This crusade is no different than the ones in the past. A matter of survival
of Christian and Jew from the anti-Christ's (including Baal) menion
--
CB
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Obama

What the Hell does Obama think Islamo-fascism is all about?


Mitchell Holman

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:13:31 PM1/11/10
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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
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> "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFD54F794CBD...@216.196.97.130...
>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
>> news:4b4a66cd$0$4893$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
>>> Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace.
>>> The Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and
>>> to lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace.
>>
>>
>> And Linus predicts that the Great Pumpkin will someday
>> rise out of the pumpkin patch to deliver goodies to all
>> good girls and boys.
>
> Your contemporary superstitions are childish and shallow, try
> Something more deep, as old as time and gives your life purpose


And your belief in Bible stories about snakes that
talk and unicorn and dragons is any different?


>
>>
>> Is there any limit to the fantasies of the religious?
>
> Religion is a shallow overview which pointiheaded Libs ponder into
> minutia.


Religion is fantasy. Only more lethal than most.

>
>>
>> Why should any even believe them, much go to war over them?
>
> This crusade is no different than the ones in the past. A matter of
> survival of Christian and Jew from the anti-Christ's (including Baal)
> menion


Since you mention the Crusades - guess which side won those?



RichTravsky

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:06:17 PM1/12/10
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in

> > "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in

> >>> The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
> >>> Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace.
> >>> The Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and
> >>> to lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace.
> >>
> >>
> >> And Linus predicts that the Great Pumpkin will someday
> >> rise out of the pumpkin patch to deliver goodies to all
> >> good girls and boys.
> >
> > Your contemporary superstitions are childish and shallow, try
> > Something more deep, as old as time and gives your life purpose
>
> And your belief in Bible stories about snakes that
> talk and unicorn and dragons is any different?

CB thinks Satan controls the weather. LOL



> >> Is there any limit to the fantasies of the religious?
> >
> > Religion is a shallow overview which pointiheaded Libs ponder into
> > minutia.
>
> Religion is fantasy. Only more lethal than most.

Religion kills doctors and flies planes into buildings.

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CB

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Jan 13, 2010, 6:35:12 PM1/13/10
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"China Blue Oyster Cult" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4B4D46B9...@hotmMOVEail.com>,

> RichTravsky <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
>> > > "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > >> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
>> > >>> The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
>> > >>> Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace.
>> > >>> The Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and
>> > >>> to lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> And Linus predicts that the Great Pumpkin will someday
>> > >> rise out of the pumpkin patch to deliver goodies to all
>> > >> good girls and boys.
>> > >
>> > > Your contemporary superstitions are childish and shallow, try
>> > > Something more deep, as old as time and gives your life purpose
>> >
>> > And your belief in Bible stories about snakes that
>> > talk and unicorn and dragons is any different?
>>
>> CB thinks Satan controls the weather. LOL
>>
>> > >> Is there any limit to the fantasies of the religious?
>> > >
>> > > Religion is a shallow overview which pointiheaded Libs ponder into
>> > > minutia.
>> >
>> > Religion is fantasy. Only more lethal than most.
>>
>> Religion kills doctors and flies planes into buildings.
>
> Religion invented science, medicine, and charity.

I saw this show on the Science Channel the other day. It portrayed the
history of compounds. In the 1600 century there were maybe a handful of
simple ones discovered, Carbon being the unknown common denominator which
binds them all together. When that was discovered in the 18th century, and
after the periodic table was put together using the known element, 10,000
compounds were created. Last year alone one million compounds were recorded
and/or patented.

Carbon is the building block of life and the EPA labeled it a poison.

God help us

>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to
> be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in
> character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a
> time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. We support you,
> Sarah.


Mitchell Holman

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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
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Put a bag over your head for the next ten
minutes and then tell us how carbon dioxide
is not a poison.


Topaz

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Jan 14, 2010, 9:33:54 PM1/14/10
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Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.

Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.


http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org

http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

RichTravsky

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Jan 16, 2010, 10:07:38 PM1/16/10
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CB wrote:
> "China Blue Oyster Cult" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Cite ->

> God help us

Idiot. Carbon is toxic. "building block" means it's part of something else.

RichTravsky

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China Blue Oyster Cult wrote:
>
> In article <4B4D46B9...@hotmMOVEail.com>,
> RichTravsky <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
> > > > "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > >> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
> > > >>> The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader, the
> > > >>> Antichrist, will establish a global following in the name of peace.
> > > >>> The Koran predicts that Islam's savior, the Mahdi, will rise up and
> > > >>> to lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> And Linus predicts that the Great Pumpkin will someday
> > > >> rise out of the pumpkin patch to deliver goodies to all
> > > >> good girls and boys.
> > > >
> > > > Your contemporary superstitions are childish and shallow, try
> > > > Something more deep, as old as time and gives your life purpose
> > >
> > > And your belief in Bible stories about snakes that
> > > talk and unicorn and dragons is any different?
> >
> > CB thinks Satan controls the weather. LOL
> >
> > > >> Is there any limit to the fantasies of the religious?
> > > >
> > > > Religion is a shallow overview which pointiheaded Libs ponder into
> > > > minutia.
> > >
> > > Religion is fantasy. Only more lethal than most.
> >
> > Religion kills doctors and flies planes into buildings.
>
> Religion invented science, medicine, and charity.

Not really. In fact, religion, western religion, is anti science.

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Topaz

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RichTravsky

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China Blue Oyster Cult wrote:
>
> In article <4B527F1E...@hotmMOVEail.com>,
> The scientific method was first practiced by a christian monk, Theodric of
> Frieburg around 1304. If you want to include research without the scientific
> method, old dead Greek guys were polytheists and incipient monotheists. If by
> religion you mean western religion you mean christianity, some dead christian
> guys include Newton, Kepler, Galileo, and Georges Lemaitre (priest and inventor
> of the Big Bang theory). If by atheist you mean ignorant twit, look in a mirror.

You make the mistake of conflating science and scientific method. (The arabs beat
the monk by several hundred years...)

Religion was not necessary for medicince; even animals self medicate.

And charity does not need religion.

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CB

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
> the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
> and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
> And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world.

That would be the Kook of Iran and all Islamo-fascist who look forward to
the Mahdi

QOM, Iran -- Iran's president believes Allah has chosen him to prepare the
world for the coming of an Islamic 'savior' called the Mahdi.

But before the Mahdi's return, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes there must be
global chaos - even if he has to create it himself.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/411301.aspx


They think wars
> and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
> will return soon.

See above, fool

>
> Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
> of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
> have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
> Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

It's Leftists who all but legalized pot in the fruit and nut state

>
> Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
> as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
> problems one should look elsewhere.

One should seek God's forgiveness but one cannot lead an ass to the 'living'
water, it's a free choice.

Who do Christians hate the most,
> first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
> solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.

Muslim's sided with Hitler, your hero

> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
> in a Muslim country.

The only reason it's shown in America because Christians tolerate perversion
and turn the cheek...just to be slapped on the other.


--
CB
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Obama

What the Hell does Obama think Islamo-fascism is all about?

What the Hell does Obama think Jeremiah Wright's church 'is' all about?


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Mitchell Holman

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> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>

>> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
>> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
>> in a Muslim country.
>
> The only reason it's shown in America because Christians tolerate
> perversion and turn the cheek...just to be slapped on the other.

What is your alternative to "tolerating perversion"?


"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is
God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
-Jerry Fallwell, 1993. He failed to elaborate on his
alternative to "tolerating" homosexuals.

CB

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"Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hvkvk5peesgs7hrj0...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>
>>> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
>>> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
>>> in a Muslim country.
>>
>> The only reason it's shown in America because Christians tolerate
>> perversion and turn the cheek...just to be slapped on the other.
>
>
>
> What is your alternative to "tolerating perversion"?


The same as when sluts get knocked up and look to gubment to take care of
their bastard, shame them.

Yes, judge their behavior as sinful and shame them so others might be more
responsible


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Mitchell Holman

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> "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D0947638A459...@216.196.97.130...
>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
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>>>
>>> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hvkvk5peesgs7hrj0...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite
>>>> of liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be
>>>> shown in a Muslim country.
>>>
>>> The only reason it's shown in America because Christians tolerate
>>> perversion and turn the cheek...just to be slapped on the other.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is your alternative to "tolerating perversion"?
>
>
> The same as when sluts get knocked up and look to gubment to take care
> of their bastard, shame them.
>

"Shame them"?

That's it?


> Yes, judge their behavior as sinful and shame them so others might be
> more responsible
>


Is that any way to talk about Mary Cheney and Bristol Palin?

Topaz

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Message of H.E. Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran
To the American People

In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

O, Almighty God, bestow upon humanity the perfect human being promised
to all by You, and make us among his followers.

Noble Americans,

Were we not faced with the activities of the US administration in this
part of the world and the negative ramifications of those activities
on
the daily lives of our peoples, coupled with the many wars and
calamities caused by the US administration as well as the tragic
consequences of US interference in other countries;

Were the American people not God-fearing, truth-loving, and
justice-seeking, while the US administration actively conceals the
truth and impedes any objective portrayal of current realities;

And if we did not share a common responsibility to promote and protect
freedom and human dignity and integrity;

Then, there would have been little urgency to have a dialogue with
you.

While Divine providence has placed Iran and the United States
geographically far apart, we should be cognizant that human values and
our common human spirit, which proclaim the dignity and exalted worth
of all human beings, have brought our two great nations of Iran and
the
United States closer together.

Both our nations are God-fearing, truth-loving and justice-seeking,
and
both seek dignity, respect and perfection.

Both greatly value and readily embrace the promotion of human ideals
such as compassion, empathy, respect for the rights of human beings,
securing justice and equity, and defending the innocent and the weak
against oppressors and bullies.

We are all inclined towards the good, and towards extending a helping
hand to one another, particularly to those in need.

We all deplore injustice, the trampling of peoples' rights and the
intimidation and humiliation of human beings.

We all detest darkness, deceit, lies and distortion, and seek and
admire salvation, enlightenment, sincerity and honesty.

The pure human essence of the two great nations of Iran and the United
States testify to the veracity of these statements.

Noble Americans,

Our nation has always extended its hand of friendship to all other
nations of the world.

Hundreds of thousands of my Iranian compatriots are living amongst you
in friendship and peace, and are contributing positively to your
society. Our people have been in contact with you over the past many
years and have maintained these contacts despite the unnecessary
restrictions of US authorities.

As mentioned, we have common concerns, face similar challenges, and
are
pained by the sufferings and afflictions in the world.

We, like you, are aggrieved by the ever-worsening pain and misery of
the Palestinian people. Persistent aggressions by the Zionists are
making life more and more difficult for the rightful owners of the
land
of Palestine. In broad day-light, in front of cameras and before the
eyes of the world, they are bombarding innocent defenseless civilians,
bulldozing houses, firing machine guns at students in the streets and
alleys, and subjecting their families to endless grief.

No day goes by without a new crime.

Palestinian mothers, just like Iranian and American mothers, love
their
children, and are painfully bereaved by the imprisonment, wounding and
murder of their children. What mother wouldn't?

For 60 years, the Zionist regime has driven millions of the
inhabitants
of Palestine out of their homes. Many of these refugees have died in
the Diaspora and in refugee camps. Their children have spent their
youth in these camps and are aging while still in the hope of
returning
to homeland.

You know well that the US administration has persistently provided
blind and blanket support to the Zionist regime, has emboldened it to
continue its crimes, and has prevented the UN Security Council from
condemning it.

Who can deny such broken promises and grave injustices towards
humanity
by the US administration?

Governments are there to serve their own people. No people wants to
side with or support any oppressors. But regrettably, the US
administration disregards even its own public opinion and remains in
the forefront of supporting the trampling of the rights of the
Palestinian people.

Let's take a look at Iraq. Since the commencement of the US military
presence in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed,
maimed or displaced. Terrorism in Iraq has grown exponentially. With
the presence of the US military in Iraq, nothing has been done to
rebuild the ruins, to restore the infrastructure or to alleviate
poverty. The US Government used the pretext of the existence of
weapons
of mass destruction in Iraq, but later it became clear that that was
just a lie and a deception.

Although Saddam was overthrown and people are happy about his
departure, the pain and suffering of the Iraqi people has persisted
and
has even been aggravated.

In Iraq, about one hundred and fifty thousand American soldiers,
separated from their families and loved ones, are operating under the
command of the current US administration. A substantial number of
them
have been killed or wounded and their presence in Iraq has tarnished
the image of the American people and government.

Their mothers and relatives have, on numerous occasions, displayed
their discontent with the presence of their sons and daughters in a
land thousands of miles away from US shores. American soldiers often
wonder why they have been sent to Iraq.

I consider it extremely unlikely that you, the American people,
consent
to the billions of dollars of annual expenditure from your treasury
for
this military misadventure.

Noble Americans,

You have heard that the US administration is kidnapping its presumed
opponents from across the globe and arbitrarily holding them without
trial or any international supervision in horrendous prisons that it
has established in various parts of the world. God knows who these
detainees actually are, and what terrible fate awaits them.

You have certainly heard the sad stories of the Guantanamo and
Abu-Ghraib prisons. The US administration attempts to justify them
through its proclaimed "war on terror." But every one knows that such
behavior, in fact, offends global public opinion, exacerbates
resentment and thereby spreads terrorism, and tarnishes the US image
and its credibility among nations.

The US administration's illegal and immoral behavior is not even
confined to outside its borders. You are witnessing daily that under
the pretext of "the war on terror," civil liberties in the United
States are being increasingly curtailed. Even the privacy of
individuals is fast losing its meaning. Judicial due process and
fundamental rights are trampled upon. Private phones are tapped,
suspects are arbitrarily arrested, sometimes beaten in the streets, or
even shot to death.

I have no doubt that the American people do not approve of this
behavior and indeed deplore it.

The US administration does not accept accountability before any
organization, institution or council. The US administration has
undermined the credibility of international organizations,
particularly
the United Nations and its Security Council. But, I do not intend to
address all the challenges and calamities in this message.

The legitimacy, power and influence of a government do not emanate
from
its arsenals of tanks, fighter aircrafts, missiles or nuclear weapons.
Legitimacy and influence reside in sound logic, quest for justice and
compassion and empathy for all humanity. The global position of the
United States is in all probability weakened because the
administration
has continued to resort to force, to conceal the truth, and to mislead
the American people about its policies and practices.

Undoubtedly, the American people are not satisfied with this behavior
and they showed their discontent in the recent elections. I hope that
in the wake of the mid-term elections, the administration of President
Bush will have heard and will heed the message of the American people.

My questions are the following:

Is there not a better approach to governance?

Is it not possible to put wealth and power in the service of peace,
stability, prosperity and the happiness of all peoples through a
commitment to justice and respect for the rights of all nations,
instead of aggression and war?

We all condemn terrorism, because its victims are the innocent.

But, can terrorism be contained and eradicated through war,
destruction
and the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocents?

If that were possible, then why has the problem not been resolved?

The sad experience of invading Iraq is before us all.

What has blind support for the Zionists by the US administration
brought for the American people? It is regrettable that for the US
administration, the interests of these occupiers supersedes the
interests of the American people and of the other nations of the
world.

What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US
administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these
infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on
a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media
sectors?

I recommend that in a demonstration of respect for the American people
and for humanity, the right of Palestinians to live in their own
homeland should be recognized so that millions of Palestinian refugees
can return to their homes and the future of all of Palestine and its
form of government be determined in a referendum. This will benefit
everyone.

Now that Iraq has a Constitution and an independent Assembly and
Government, would it not be more beneficial to bring the US officers
and soldiers home, and to spend the astronomical US military
expenditures in Iraq for the welfare and prosperity of the American
people? As you know very well, many victims of Katrina continue to
suffer, and countless Americans continue to live in poverty and
homelessness.

I'd also like to say a word to the winners of the recent elections in
the US:

The United States has had many administrations; some who have left a
positive legacy, and others that are neither remembered fondly by the
American people nor by other nations.

Now that you control an important branch of the US Government, you
will
also be held to account by the people and by history.

If the US Government meets the current domestic and external
challenges
with an approach based on truth and Justice, it can remedy some of the
past afflictions and alleviate some of the global resentment and
hatred
of America. But if the approach remains the same, it would not be
unexpected that the American people would similarly reject the new
electoral winners, although the recent elections, rather than
reflecting a victory, in reality point to the failure of the current
administration's policies. These issues had been extensively dealt
with
in my letter to President Bush earlier this year.

To sum up:

It is possible to govern based on an approach that is distinctly
different from one of coercion, force and injustice.

It is possible to sincerely serve and promote common human values, and
honesty and compassion.

It is possible to provide welfare and prosperity without tension,
threats, imposition or war.

It is possible to lead the world towards the aspired perfection by
adhering to unity, monotheism, morality and spirituality and drawing
upon the teachings of the Divine Prophets.

Then, the American people, who are God-fearing and followers of Divine
religions, will overcome every difficulty.

What I stated represents some of my anxieties and concerns.

I am confident that you, the American people, will play an
instrumental
role in the establishment of justice and spirituality throughout the
world. The promises of the Almighty and His prophets will certainly
be
realized, Justice and Truth will prevail and all nations will live a
true life in a climate replete with love, compassion and fraternity.

The US governing establishment, the authorities and the powerful
should
not choose irreversible paths. As all prophets have taught us,
injustice and transgression will eventually bring about decline and
demise. Today, the path of return to faith and spirituality is open
and
unimpeded.

We should all heed the Divine Word of the Holy Qur'an:

"But those who repent, have faith and do good may receive Salvation.
Your Lord, alone, creates and chooses as He will, and others have no
part in His choice; Glorified is God and Exalted above any partners
they ascribe to Him." (28:67-68)

I pray to the Almighty to bless the Iranian and American nations and
indeed all nations of the world with dignity and success.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran
29 November 2006

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15952309/

Obie Won Scumbag

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:49:58 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:

>"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
>news:4b5b2adb$0$4887$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com:
>
>>
>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9D0947638A459...@216.196.97.130...
>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
>>> news:4b5a5276$0$4872$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hvkvk5peesgs7hrj0...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite
>>>>> of liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be
>>>>> shown in a Muslim country.
>>>>
>>>> The only reason it's shown in America because Christians tolerate
>>>> perversion and turn the cheek...just to be slapped on the other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is your alternative to "tolerating perversion"?
>>
>>
>> The same as when sluts get knocked up and look to gubment to take care
>> of their bastard, shame them.
>>
>
> "Shame them"?
>
> That's it?

As opposed to celebrating it, applauding it, or granting preferential
treatment to the practitioners.

A few yrs. ago in Denver's December holiday parade in which no
religious allusions were allowed, one float featured a homosexual
Native American group dancing and gyrating to "Creator."

RichTravsky

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> And those Arabs were moslems.

So? Darwin was christian. So?



> > Religion was not necessary for medicince; even animals self medicate.
>

> The invention of medicine in Greece was linked to their religion. Zorastarian
> medicine was also based on their religion.

"Medicine" has been around for a long time. Before religion. My dog eats grass when
ill.



> > And charity does not need religion.
>

> Charity outside your family group was a christian invention.

Charity does not need religion. Never has. Even apes are charitable.

RichTravsky

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Jan 23, 2010, 7:05:58 PM1/23/10
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CB wrote:
> "Mitchell Holman" <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in

> >> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
> >>> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
> >>> in a Muslim country.
> >>
> >> The only reason it's shown in America because Christians tolerate
> >> perversion and turn the cheek...just to be slapped on the other.
> >
> > What is your alternative to "tolerating perversion"?
>
> The same as when sluts get knocked up and look to gubment to take care of
> their bastard, shame them.

Like Sarah Bailin's slut daughter? How about hicks who look to government for
generators?

Mitchell Holman

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jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in news:4b5b732f.33003171
@news.eternal-september.org:


Conservatives hate it when other people
have a good time. Fun is "sinful", you know....

Message has been deleted

Obie Won Scumbag

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Jan 23, 2010, 9:15:18 PM1/23/10
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:04:16 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:

Fun with Santa Claus floats prohibited.

Fun with faggot Indians gyrating for "Creator" allowed.

Nobama

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Jan 23, 2010, 9:25:56 PM1/23/10
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:04:16 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:

I have a lotta fun showing how dumb you niggers are. To wit: you
missed the point here. The Denver parade prohibited all references to
religion including "old Saint Nick" AKA Santa Claus. But they allowed
the religious aboriginal ceremony performed by queers.

See the double standard, do ya?

Mitchell Holman

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jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in news:4b5bad00.47804109
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usually by Christians upset over the "secularization"
of Christmas.


>
> Fun with faggot Indians gyrating for "Creator" allowed.


If thine eye offends thee.............

Obie Won Scumbag

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Jan 23, 2010, 11:10:40 PM1/23/10
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:33:47 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:

By politically-correct leftists who don't mind trashing Christianity
but are terrified of non-Christians.

>
>>
>> Fun with faggot Indians gyrating for "Creator" allowed.
>
>
> If thine eye offends thee.............

Acceptance of the double standard.

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:02:30 AM1/24/10
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jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in news:4b5bc7d4.54671796
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Actually it is conservative Christians who rant about any
non-Christians (moslems, buddhists, and worse still atheists)
in their presence. Beyond the six states that specifically
deny atheists from holding any public office.


>>>
>>> Fun with faggot Indians gyrating for "Creator" allowed.
>>
>>
>> If thine eye offends thee.............
>
> Acceptance of the double standard.
>



Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out
from using Leviticus to defend homophobia to dismiss
all the dietary restrictions in that same chapter as
"ancient laws" that "only applies to Jews".

Obie Won Scumbag

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:35:28 AM1/24/10
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:02:30 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:

Truth be told it's the Muslims who don't tolerate anyone as evidenced
in their prime directive: convert, enslave, or kill all infidels
(non-Muslims). They have massacred Russian school children, Scottish
air travelers, Malaysian nightclubbers, Spanish and British subway
commuters ..... anyone who practices a different ideology.

Similarly, Jews who condemn whites for not tolerating diversity won't
let non-Jews visit Jewish Community Centers, even as guests, prohibit
goyim from attending proms at Jew schools, etc.

Of course liberals never allude to these realities,

Topaz

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:07:46 GMT, jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag)
wrote:


>As opposed to celebrating it, applauding it, or granting preferential
>treatment to the practitioners.
>
>A few yrs. ago in Denver's December holiday parade in which no
>religious allusions were allowed, one float featured a homosexual
>Native American group dancing and gyrating to "Creator."

Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.

And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars


and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.

Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium


of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such


as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these

problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,


first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.

Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.

Obie Won Scumbagoni

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:24:11 -0600, Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=165942007

Claim 11 men raped teenager in revenge
ETHAN MCNERN

ELEVEN Pakistani men have been accused of raping a teenager and
forcing her to parade naked through her village because a cousin
eloped with a young woman from the men's family, police said
yesterday.

Such attacks, known as honour crimes, as they are committed in
response to a perceived slight on a family's honour, are common in
predominantly Muslim Pakistan, especially in rural communities.

Police said the girl's father had filed a complaint on Saturday in
Ubaro town, 330 miles from Karachi, saying a group of 11 men had
kidnapped his daughter, raped her and forced her to parade naked.

The father told police the men were furious because the girl's cousin
had eloped with and married a young woman from their family.

The girl is in hospital in Ubaro, police said. Four of the 11 men
named in the complaint have been arrested and police are awaiting a
medical report to confirm the 16-year-old had been raped. Police also
said certain influential people were pressing the girl's father to
drop his complaint.

The case brings to mind an attack in 2002, when Mukhtaran Mai was
gang-raped on the orders of a traditional village council in Punjab
province as punishment because her brother had had a relationship with
a young woman without the approval of her family.

Ms Mai pressed charges and rose to international prominence as a
women's rights campaigner. The

case highlighted and helped galvanise public opinion behind a
government-backed change to Islamic laws, approved late last year,
that makes it easier for women to seek justice in civil courts.

Under the old Islamic law on rape, a woman risked prosecution for
adultery unless she could produce four male witnesses to a rape.

This article:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=165942007

CB

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:of0pl516tdkinpg6u...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:07:46 GMT, jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag)
> wrote:
>
>
>>As opposed to celebrating it, applauding it, or granting preferential
>>treatment to the practitioners.
>>
>>A few yrs. ago in Denver's December holiday parade in which no
>>religious allusions were allowed, one float featured a homosexual
>>Native American group dancing and gyrating to "Creator."
>
>
> Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
> the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
> and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
> And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
> and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
> will return soon.

It's your Wahabbi buddies and that of the Kook of Iran who look forward to
their Mahdi who fell into the well 1300 years ago. It's the Kook of Iran who
said it's his destiny to bring the world to chaos in order for this to
happen.

Christians look forward in peace for Jesus to return.

>
> Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
> of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
> have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
> Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

Kinda what you said about Christians, 'lowlife'

>
> Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
> as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
> problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
> first Hitler and then the Muslims.

For good reason, lowlife, they supported each other in killing Jews

These are the two who actually
> solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
> in a Muslim country.

You should sue

Mitchell Holman

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jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in
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Bingo. Religions have always prosecuted those who do
believe in their religion, not to mention those who practice
no religion at all.


> Similarly, Jews who condemn whites for not tolerating diversity won't
> let non-Jews visit Jewish Community Centers, even as guests, prohibit
> goyim from attending proms at Jew schools, etc.
>
> Of course liberals never allude to these realities,


No, liberals prefer to let religious belief be a matter
a matter of private concern and not impose any religion on
anyone. What a radical concept, no?


Obie Won Scumbagoni

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Actually, liberals demonize Christians while giving the othes a pass,
yes?

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:52:23 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Michael Ejercito

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On Jan 24, 6:02 am, Mitchell Holman <noemailple...@comcast.net> wrote:
> jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in news:4b5bc7d4.54671796
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:33:47 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noemailple...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in news:4b5bad00.47804109
> >>@news.eternal-september.org:
> >>> Fun with faggot Indians gyrating for "Creator" allowed.
>
> >>    If thine eye offends thee.............
>
> > Acceptance of the double standard.
>
>      Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out
> from using Leviticus to defend homophobia to dismiss
> all the dietary restrictions in that same chapter as
> "ancient laws" that "only applies to Jews".
So what is your opinion of Jews who use their scriptures to defend
homphobia?


Michael

Topaz

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If we looked at all the criminals in America we could start with
Jeffrey Dahmer and go from there. The list would be huge and we could
easily show how evil America is.


Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce

"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.

Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.

So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.

Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.

As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.

And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.

There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.

Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.

Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.

The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.

Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.

Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.

How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?

Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.

Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews
are very powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them.
They're afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in
connection with immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick
together and will viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the
old story, so aptly expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir
John Harington. Harington wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's
the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the
Jewish power structure is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is. Well,
that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away with so
much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says
to the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and
because of this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and
achieve success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a
highly moral and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us.
We are a very talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses,
and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race,
a race of philanthropists who only want to make a better world for
everyone, and because of this everyone hates us."

Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called
"Holocaust." In its most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is
the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the
Jews' favorite "Holocaust" phrases.

Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen
as bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they
would criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor
dears, at the hands of anti-Semites.

In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There are a number of good books available on the subject from the
sponsor of this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed
in an earlier broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite
the fact that many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the
"Holocaust" still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid
of the image conjured up by the "Holocaust."

Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the reason,
many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And
really, in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish
problem.

The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike
Americans today, they had an honest government concerned above all
with the survival, welfare, and progress of the German people, and
they began doing what was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate
wholesale from Germany beginning in 1933. And because of that the
Jewish propaganda machine has attacked the Germans so viciously, has
so blackened and demonized their image, that today even knowledgeable
people are afraid to be associated with that image. They are afraid to
say that the Germans were right, that the Germans were justified, and
that we need to do the same if we are to survive. So, as I said, the
"Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.

Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands
from anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves
products marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest
supermarket chain in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway
Coop, announced its decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That
decision was not the result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators
but was based on the feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be
immoral to continue supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli
imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.

The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli
products is a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even
thinkable by big businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique
-- and in particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit
shopworn. It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at
least, in some parts of the world. And I suppose that we should be
happy about that. The unfortunate fact remains, however, that in
America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the "Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still
keeps most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.

Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the
critical issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our
disastrous foreign policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and
in a dozen other disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop
apologizing to the people who are destroying us and go full bore at
destroying them instead.

Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim
that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.

Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now
are making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the
Jews are like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel
Sharon for demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are
like.

Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people
around the world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing
support for the Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring
about the overthrow of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim
world. Let us hope that it brings about an airtight oil embargo
against the United States and shuts off the lights in every shopping
mall and every sports stadium in America long enough for the lemmings
to become restless and begin asking questions. Let us hope that it
makes the efforts of every fool and every traitor who is striving for
a resumption of the so-called "peace process" so obviously futile that
these efforts no longer have the power to deceive anyone.

Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."

Topaz

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Noble Americans,

Noble Americans,

Noble Americans,

To sum up:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15952309/

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

Obie Won Scumbagoni

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:18:41 -0600, Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Muslims Torturing Each Other

Scores of torture victims' bodies dumped in Baghdad
By Sameer Yacoub, AP
Published: 13 September 2006
The bodies of 65 men who had been tortured and then shot have been
dumped around Baghdad. Meanwhile, two car bombs and two mortar attacks
killed at least 32 people and injured dozens of others.

Police said 60 of the bodies were found overnight scattered around
Baghdad, with the majority dumped in predominantly Sunni Arab
neighbourhoods.

All the bodies were bound, bore signs of torture and had been shot,
said police Lt. Thayer Mahmoud.

Such killings are usually the work of death squads, operated by both
Sunni Arabs and Shia gangs and militias, who kidnap people and usually
torture them with power drills or beat them badly before shooting
them.

Of the bodies, 45 were discovered in predominantly Sunni Arab parts of
western Baghdad. The rest were found in predominantly Shia areas of
eastern Baghdad. Another five bodies were found floating down the
Tigris river in Suwayrah, 40 kilometers south of Baghdad, according to
police Lt. Mohammed al-Shimari.

In the capital, a car bomb killed at least 19 people and wounded more
than 62 after it detonated in a large square used mostly as a parking
lot near the main headquarters of Baghdad's traffic police department,
police Cap. Mohammed Abdel-Ghani said. At least two of the dead were
traffic police officers.

In past years, the square was used to test people trying to get their
drivers license.

In eastern Baghdad, a parked car bomb exploded next to a passing Iraqi
police patrol in the Zayona neighborhood, killing eight people and
wounding 17, police Lt. Bilal Ali Majid said. At least 3 of the dead
and 7 of the wounded were police officers.

Two mortar shells landed on al-Rashad police station in southeastern
Baghdad, killing one policeman and wounding two others, said police
1st Lt. Mohammed Kheyoun.

Another two policemen were killed when two mortar rounds landed near
their station in Baghdad's eastern neighborhood of Mashtal, police
Maj. Maher Hamid Mousa said. Three others were injured.

In the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, 65 kilometers (40
miles) west of Baghdad, two pedestrians were killed and two others
injured, apparently in a corssfire, when US troops exchanged fire with
unidentified gunmen in the city's main market, police Lt. Mohamed Sami
said.

Three mortar shells also landed in downtown Baghdad, wounding four
civilians, said police 1st Lt. Thayer Mohammed.

The attacks came one day after attacks claimed the lives of at least
two dozen people across Iraq.

Baghdad has been the focus of most violence and thousands of US and
Iraqi forces are taking part in a security crackdown aimed to curtail
some of the killing. According to the Iraqi Health Ministry, an
average of 51 people a day died violently last month in the capital.

Meanwhile, some lawmakers squabbled over a resolution demanding a
timetable for a US troop withdrawal, and others failed to resolve a
deadlock over a Shia-sponsored bill that Sunni Arabs fear will carve
up the country.

A group of lawmakers tried to take advantage Tuesday of the
unpopularity of US troops among many Shia and Sunni legislators to
seek approval of a resolution setting a timetable for the withdrawal
of all foreign troops � which the mainstream Shia-dominated government
has so far refused to do.

Sponsored by supporters of radical Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and
some Sunni Arabs, the resolution managed to gather 104 signatures in
the 275-member parliament before was effectively shelved by being sent
to a committee for review.

That committee will need at least six months to examine the resolution
and present its findings to parliament. If and when approved, such a
resolution would be binding on the government.

No headway was made on parliament's most contentious issue since it
reconvened last week from summer recess: legislation that will set in
place the mechanism for establishing autonomous regions as part of a
federal Iraq.

Sunni Arabs have said the bill could split the country into three
distinct sectarian and ethnic cantons and have vehemently opposed it.

Although federalism is part Iraq's new constitution, and there is
already an autonomous Kurdish region in the north, special legislation
and a referendum would be needed to turn Iraq into a full federation.

Parliament's biggest political bloc, the Shia United Iraqi Alliance
submitted the bill last week. It would be the first step in creating a
separate autonomous state in the predominantly Shia south much like
the zone run by Kurds in the north.

Objections from Sunni Arabs and an apparent split among Shias led
leaders to delay the debate until 19 September.

The bodies of 65 men who had been tortured and then shot have been
dumped around Baghdad. Meanwhile, two car bombs and two mortar attacks
killed at least 32 people and injured dozens of others.

Police said 60 of the bodies were found overnight scattered around
Baghdad, with the majority dumped in predominantly Sunni Arab
neighbourhoods.

All the bodies were bound, bore signs of torture and had been shot,
said police Lt. Thayer Mahmoud.

Such killings are usually the work of death squads, operated by both
Sunni Arabs and Shia gangs and militias, who kidnap people and usually
torture them with power drills or beat them badly before shooting
them.

Of the bodies, 45 were discovered in predominantly Sunni Arab parts of
western Baghdad. The rest were found in predominantly Shia areas of
eastern Baghdad. Another five bodies were found floating down the
Tigris river in Suwayrah, 40 kilometers south of Baghdad, according to
police Lt. Mohammed al-Shimari.

In the capital, a car bomb killed at least 19 people and wounded more
than 62 after it detonated in a large square used mostly as a parking
lot near the main headquarters of Baghdad's traffic police department,
police Cap. Mohammed Abdel-Ghani said. At least two of the dead were
traffic police officers.

In past years, the square was used to test people trying to get their
drivers license.

In eastern Baghdad, a parked car bomb exploded next to a passing Iraqi
police patrol in the Zayona neighborhood, killing eight people and
wounding 17, police Lt. Bilal Ali Majid said. At least 3 of the dead
and 7 of the wounded were police officers.

Two mortar shells landed on al-Rashad police station in southeastern
Baghdad, killing one policeman and wounding two others, said police
1st Lt. Mohammed Kheyoun.

Another two policemen were killed when two mortar rounds landed near
their station in Baghdad's eastern neighborhood of Mashtal, police
Maj. Maher Hamid Mousa said. Three others were injured.

In the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, 65 kilometers (40
miles) west of Baghdad, two pedestrians were killed and two others
injured, apparently in a corssfire, when US troops exchanged fire with
unidentified gunmen in the city's main market, police Lt. Mohamed Sami
said.

Three mortar shells also landed in downtown Baghdad, wounding four
civilians, said police 1st Lt. Thayer Mohammed.
The attacks came one day after attacks claimed the lives of at least
two dozen people across Iraq.

Baghdad has been the focus of most violence and thousands of US and
Iraqi forces are taking part in a security crackdown aimed to curtail
some of the killing. According to the Iraqi Health Ministry, an
average of 51 people a day died violently last month in the capital.

Meanwhile, some lawmakers squabbled over a resolution demanding a
timetable for a US troop withdrawal, and others failed to resolve a
deadlock over a Shia-sponsored bill that Sunni Arabs fear will carve
up the country.

A group of lawmakers tried to take advantage Tuesday of the
unpopularity of US troops among many Shia and Sunni legislators to
seek approval of a resolution setting a timetable for the withdrawal
of all foreign troops � which the mainstream Shia-dominated government
has so far refused to do.

Sponsored by supporters of radical Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and
some Sunni Arabs, the resolution managed to gather 104 signatures in
the 275-member parliament before was effectively shelved by being sent
to a committee for review.

That committee will need at least six months to examine the resolution
and present its findings to parliament. If and when approved, such a
resolution would be binding on the government.

No headway was made on parliament's most contentious issue since it
reconvened last week from summer recess: legislation that will set in
place the mechanism for establishing autonomous regions as part of a
federal Iraq.

Sunni Arabs have said the bill could split the country into three
distinct sectarian and ethnic cantons and have vehemently opposed it.

Although federalism is part Iraq's new constitution, and there is
already an autonomous Kurdish region in the north, special legislation
and a referendum would be needed to turn Iraq into a full federation.

Parliament's biggest political bloc, the Shia United Iraqi Alliance
submitted the bill last week. It would be the first step in creating a
separate autonomous state in the predominantly Shia south much like
the zone run by Kurds in the north.

Objections from Sunni Arabs and an apparent split among Shias led
leaders to delay the debate until 19 September.

Mitchell Holman

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jack@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbag) wrote in
news:4b5c5aad...@news.eternal-september.org:


The evils of religion abound, don't they.............


CB

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Did you say something?


CB

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:32:53 AM1/26/10
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The Koran and its Deceiver gives the Kook permission to lie to the Infidels

"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:iogsl5hnegtlii9mf...@4ax.com...

Obie Won Scumbagoni

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Jan 26, 2010, 7:56:54 AM1/26/10
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A lotta harm has been done in the name of religion, Akmed.

On the other hand, a lotta inappropriate hate has been foisted upon
the concept of religion.


On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:12:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman

Message has been deleted

CB

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:58:10 PM1/26/10
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"Project China Blue Book" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:chine.bleu-BA759...@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <4b5ed2e7$0$4848$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,

> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> The Koran and its Deceiver gives the Kook permission to lie to the
>> Infidels
>
> Who does he need permission from?

Your momma

>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to
> be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in
> character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a
> time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. We support you,
> Sarah.


Topaz

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:03:36 PM1/26/10
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"I ask you to consider the following:

Imagine if the rulers of a Mideast nation such as Syria, and I am not
simply speaking about a gang of radicals in that nation, but the
actual government ministers of this Mideast nation, launched terrorist
attacks against American civilian installations.

Imagine if the Syrian Government sent terrorists into Egypt to
firebomb American theaters and libraries and treacherously plotted to
blame the attacks on Egypt so that the United States would go to war
against that nation.

If successful, the treacherous plan would harm America even more than
the terrorist attacks themselves, because even more American blood and
treasure would be spilled in a devastating war on an innocent nation!

Imagine that the premature explosion of the one of the Syrian agent's
bombs led to the capture of all the Syrian operatives and ultimately
caused a complete exposure of Syria's terrorism against America.

In fact, imagine that the failed plot became so exposed that the
Syrian Defense minister had to resign.

How do you think the United States would respond to these acts of
terrorism committed against Americans by the Syrian government?

Would not at the very least America make military strikes at Syrian
installations?

Remember, that without Iraq committing even a single warlike act
against the United States, America invaded Iraq and spent hundreds of
billions of dollars and suffered great numbers of dead and wounded.

Again, how would America respond to any Mideast nation that clearly
made terrorist attacks against American civilian installations?

After such dastardly terrorist attacks would the American people send
billions of dollars in aid including military weapons to Syria?

After such attacks, how would every Congressman be viewed that took
money from Lobby organizations that support the Syrian government?

Would they not be attacked in the press, would they not be properly
accused of disloyalty to the United States, perhaps even treason?

Imagine that due to the ubiquitous pro-Syrian political and media
power in America that amazingly no actions were taken against Syria
and that military and other aid to Syria continued.

And finally, imagine that years after the attacks, the President of
Syria in an open, public ceremony gives awards to the Syrian
terrorists who bombed American installations and calls them "heroes."

Do you think a free press would keep such an obscene ceremony from the
knowledge of the American public? Or do you think that the Syrian
Government's praising of terrorists who attacked America would unleash
a huge scandal and uproar.

Well, everything I just described to you actually has happened, and I
mean in every detail.

Except it wasn't the Syrian government that launched terrorist attacks
on America, it was Israel.

In the Lavon Affair, the Israeli government sent terrorists to bomb
American installations in Egypt and blame the Egyptians for it. One of
their bombs exploded prematurely which led to the capture of one the
agents and eventually the rounding up of all of them. They confessed
and the Israeli Defense minister Pinhas Lavon was forced to resign
because of the failure and exposure of this Israeli treachery.

This is no fantasy; this is absolute historical fact which you can
verify from numerous major historical sources, including leading
Jewish sources.

Only thing is, you probably haven't even heard of it.

Why not?

And why would America continue to give military weapons and equipment
to a nation that launched terrorist attacks against us?

What does that tell you about Israeli influence over the American
government and the press?"

David Duke
www.davidduke.com

Topaz

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:06:25 PM1/26/10
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Salute To Our Muslim Martyrs
Musil Shehadeh

As a Christian Palestinian, I cannot but bow my head in full reverence
and admiration to our Muslim brothers who are teaching the Israelis
and the world the real meaning of self-sacrifice in the face of cruel
occupation. You can call them what you want but you cannot deny them
the pinnacle of courage when they offer their own lives at the altar
of freedom, not only for their own religious order but also for all of
us. No power, be it the Israeli rocket, its F-16s, its tanks, or its
nuclear weapons, can stand as a deterrent against such culmination of
human sacrifice.
Such martyrdom has created a new chapter in the history of human
resistance against occupation that has never been emulated in the
history of humanity except for the Japanese kamikaze in the Second
World War. Instead of having the world study the psychological motives
behind such courageous acts, they are dismissed na�vely by Israel and
its U.S. prot�g� as simple acts of "terrorism"! Really! Those who
sacrifice their lives for freedom are "terrorists," while those who
massacre people to keep them under the chains of bondage are engaged
in philanthropic acts? Using such bizarre criterion, it would place
George Washington, Joan of Arc and Martin Luther King as "terrorists"
while Genghis Khan, Attilla the Hun and Sharon as the heads of
charitable organizations.
Even those who criticize such heroic acts cannot deny that those young
men and women, who strap themselves with explosives and sacrifice
their lives, fully realize that there are other options for the
future. They could have chosen to get married and to have children, or
to seek profitable employment and to enjoy the many pleasures of life.
They could have followed their instincts to continue living without
bringing grief and misery to their loved ones. Yet when they kill
themselves and deny themselves the pleasure of living, then there has
to exist a very good cause that prompts them to commit such acts of
self-destruction. As one of the bereaved mothers explained: life
without freedom had no value in the eyes of her beloved martyr-son.
They have chosen to die so that they would fight a cruel occupier to
liberate their lands, to reject life without dignity, while creating
life with freedom for others. Western teaching institutions would rush
into explaining how frustration in life could drive people into acting
violently, yet they tend to swallow with great relish the Zionist
versions when explaining the violent nature of these acts...
For those of us who are still advocating "give peace a chance," we
should not forget that Mr. Sharon's war is not against "terrorism," as
he would like us to believe, but rather an aggressive war to occupy
our homes and land turning us into slaves in our own homes. His
enemies are not those who carry the gun, but anyone who would stand in
his way to expropriate more lands from the Palestinians. How else can
one explain his closure of the Palestinian profile office in Jerusalem
headed by Dr. Sari Nuseibeh? A super moderate Palestinian whose call
for the existence of the two States, meeting all of Israeli demands
for peace and security along the 1967 borders, could not be matched.
Yet he was not spared the wrath of Sharon because he dared to demand
the right of Palestinians for their own mini-State?
It should be obvious to all of us that Sharon cannot understand any
language except the language of force, as no moderate or peace-loving
advocate can survive the war imposed upon us by those who are working
hard to deny us our rights. It should behoove all of us to support our
martyrs and their families, as these are the real heroes of our
dignified and legitimate struggle for freedom in our homeland.
http://www.palestinetimes.net/issue134/articles.html#9

Topaz

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NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS
From: libb...@hotmail.com <mailto:libb...@hotmail.com> (libby)
Date: 9/4/02 6:46 PM Pacific Daylight

Sept.04/2002

It's important for the American people to know that all those
'American' journalists/talking heads that they see and read in the
Zionist controlled print and electronic mass media are not working for
America's interests. The very fact that they appear on CNN or write
for the Washington Post, for example, conveys the impression in the
minds of Americans that these 'journalists' are loyal Americans who
have America's best interests at heart. They are, in fact, leading
players in a huge deception and manipulation of the American people
that when attached to a cause such as, 'support of Israel', or
'attacking Iraq', is unrelenting in it's intensity and scope...

Fact is, they are part of the same ruling elites of mostly Zionists
who by now have a virtual stranglehold on power in America.
And even as I write this, there on CNN's TALKBACK LIVE is Daniel Pipes
of Middle East Forum, propagandizing in favor of a unilateral military
attack on a sovereign nation, Iraq. An act that if committed by any
country other than America, would be considered a war crime and
justification for America to go to war against the invading country.
The following is an excerpt from the foreword to Aldous Huxley's BRAVE
NEW WORLD.
=============
begin excerpt
=============
The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by
doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is the truth, but
still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.
By simply not mentioning certain subjects, by lowering what Mr.
Churchill calls an 'iron curtain' between the masses and such facts or
arguments as the local political bosses regard as undesirable,
totalitarian propagandists have influenced [public] opinion much more
effectively than they could have done by the most eloquent
denunciations, the most compelling of logical rebuttals.
===========
end excerpt
===========
In plain English, propagandists don't necessarily need to lie to the
mass audience to control them. By not disclosing critical
facts/information, they ensure that no debate will ever take place on
these critical issues. This omitting of critical facts/information is
one of the very tactics used by CNN and the rest of the Zionist mass
media in America. There are many examples of this tactic and one that
comes to mind is the issue of Israel's weapons of mass
destruction(WMD's). The Zionist mass media in America does not discuss
this at all. They do not want public debate on this issue. One of the
reasons being, of course, that America's great 'ally' Israel stole
it's nuclear weapons program from America. Another issue that the
Zionists keep hidden from Americans is the $3,000,000,000 that goes to
Israel each year, payback from the 'Congress of traitors', no doubt,
for Zionist/Jewish election funding.

So Dear Americans: The next time you see/hear/read the 'work' of the
Zionist 'journalists', Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Blitzer, Kagan
Zahn, Gaffney, Schneider, Limbaugh, Pipes, Kaplan, Lipsky, Zuckerman,
Goldberg and all the others, be aware that they and their bosses are
Zionists and their purpose is to serve the interests of
Zionism/Israel, AND NOT AMERICA. Take everything they say with a grain
of salt and a pound of critique.
=== =====
Roy Libby
=== =====
Truth and disclosure are a deceiver's greatest fears.

ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE
IN AMERICA

Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of
radical Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we
return to the five dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories.
Even the Zionists themselves have never denied that they have long
exerted great influence in America. But what we must understand is
that the Zionists do not merely influence United States policy....they
dominate it! It is this domination that enables them to pull off
monstrous crimes and then conceal them from the general public.

The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government,
academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and
is easily verifiable by public information.

Henry Ford said this:

"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered
to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and
"investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the
disobedient.
Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but
even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that
compromise him. It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of
American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no
matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient
amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed
to discredit him." 33

Charles Lindbergh said this:

"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership
and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our
government. 34


Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under
Ronald Reagan said this:

"I've never seen a President-I don't care who he is-stand up to them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they
want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American
people understood what a grip those people have got on our government,
they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea
what goes on."
35

While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator
and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before
a national television audience:

"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned
about the United States' interests." 36

Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate
Patrick Buchanan said:

"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37


And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once
had the following exchange, which was caught on tape:

GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or
this country's going down the drain". NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir." NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but
I do believe it" 38

But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist
control.

FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time
Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and
countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a
Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media
conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you ever noticed how
Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and Arabs as a bigoted
fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!

FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared
lobby in Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of
unseating Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their
requests. The majority of Congressmen from both political parties
receive large donations from AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine,
journalist Michael Massing explains:

"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in
Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds
of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the
New York Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very
intimidating," said a correspondent at another large daily. "The
pressure from these groups is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53>

FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named
Richard Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more
control over the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or
the generals and admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who
serve on the board (Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as
non-jewish members who have always supported Israel and the expansion
of the "War on Terror". The notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed
the "The Prince of Darkness", is Chairman of the Board. 41

With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul
Wolfowitz as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner
Douglass Feith as Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist
Pentagon gang controls 3 of the top 4 civilian leadership positions of
America's armed forces. Careerist scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and
Donald Rumsfeld are either under their influence or unwilling to
oppose their drive for WW III. The Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang
represent a fanatical and warmongering
"government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist
Pentagon conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004
Presidential candidate, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his
Gentile partner in crime Senator
John McCain (R-AZ).

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>

An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments
that his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:

" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House
and Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York
Times, the lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their
blood does not count as much as our blood. We believe with absolute
certitude that now, when we have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar]
Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation League, , we truly have the right to
tell 400,000 people that in eight hours they must flee from their
homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on their villages and
towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill without any
guilt." 42 (emphasis added)

And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such
awesome power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so
many of America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk
about this issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton
would grovel before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous
as the following statement:

"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across
the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and
fight and die." 43

I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I
want to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?

Subject: THE ZIONIST WHORE
From: "Rasputin" a.se...@worldnet.att.net
<mailto:a.se...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 9/1/02 8:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S WHORE

We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then
they used and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was
clear that the chief remaining global power was the United States. Now
the USA had never had any problem with the Arab people, and had no
reason to quarrel with the Arabs.
For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were
receiving from America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and
the mighty US could somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists
possibly stoop so low? Why not? Look at what they had already pulled
off! Remember that the official motto
of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of
deception thou shalt do war." 26

In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for
the world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were
caught staging a series of bombings against American installations in
Egypt. 27 When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such
a controversy that it brought down the Israeli government. The long
since forgotten scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".

Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and
fighter jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US
communications ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and
170 others injured in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in
broad daylight and with the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent
was to kill all of the Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take
the blame. Israel denied that the attack was deliberate but the
chilling stories of the lucky American survivors clearly contradicts
that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress has never investigated
the USS Liberty massacre.

In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in
order to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky
became so disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government
that he defected from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how
evil and dangerous
they were. Ostrosvky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya
for the bombing of a German night club which killed American
servicemen. 29 It was this frame up job that caused President Reagan
to bomb Libya, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar
Qadaffi. France refused to allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis.
Among some of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the
Mossad often uses Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli
agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to
turn American public opinion against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists
in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions.
Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous
death threats. 30

In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research
paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS).
The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to
predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain
peace between the Israel and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:

"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in
both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to
accomplish mission" 31

Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:

"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces
and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act." 32 (emphasis added)


Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away
billons of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military
violates international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering
US troops in order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?

Subject: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
From: xdange...@aol.com <mailto:xdange...@aol.com>
(XDangerousDNA)
Date: 9/20/02 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020920193931...@mb-mc.aol.com
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LaRouche Says: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
Statement by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. September 18, 2002

Sept. 18 - I am warning President George W. Bush and European leaders:
If weapons inspectors return to Iraq and an otherwise-certain
Iraq-centered new Middle East war by the U.S. is thus averted, the
governments of the United States and Western Europe must be prepared
to forcefully intervene, to prevent an increasingly more desperate and
psychotic Ariel Sharon's nuclear-armed regime in Israel, the world's
third-ranking strategic nuclear-weapons power, from blowing up the
entire Middle East region, and beyond, with those weapons!

Therefore, I issued the following statement on behalf of my 2004
candidacy for the Democratic Presidential nomination.

At an international web cast, before a live audience in Washington on
Sept. 11, 2002, I identified three hurdles that had to be overcome to
avert an Iraq war that would trigger a perpetual "Clash of
Civilizations" religious conflict and a New Dark Age: First, the
United Nations Security Council had to become the venue for dealing
with the Iraq situation, and a reasonable resolution had to be
drafted, that would be agreed to by President Bush, overriding the
Sharon-influenced "war party" within his own Administration's senior
ranks. Second, the resolution had to be accepted by Iraq's Saddam
Hussein, as well as by President Bush. With those two conditions met,
LaRouche warned, the gravest, remaining danger to overcome would be a
berserker move by Sharon in Israel to sabotage the peaceful resolution
and blow up the region.

It was the threat of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iraq in 1991 that
blackmailed the first Bush Administration into launching Operation
Desert Storm. Today's Israel, under the insane Sharon regime, is the
only nation on Earth that genuinely fits the profile of a "rogue
state" armed to the teeth with "weapons of mass destruction." Israel
has the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal on Earth, and a triad of
submarine, missile, and bomber delivery systems, capable of
obliterating the entire Persian Gulf. Israeli scientists have recently
threatened that they now have the capability of launching an
intercontinental ballistic missile, meaning that no place on
Earth-including the United States-is exempt from an Israeli
preemptive nuclear attack. LaRouche asks you: Do you dare dismiss this
threat from Sharon?...

Since the 1956 attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, until
the 1989-1991 break-up of Soviet power, Israel's access to nuclear
weapons had made it the third "tilt" power in the global strategic
equation.

Already in 1956, it took an experienced military man, President Dwight
Eisenhower, to force Israel to back down from the Suez invasion, after
both Britain and France had withdrawn under American pressure.
Eisenhower not only threatened to cut off all U.S. military and
civilian aid to Israel; he also threatened to remove the tax-exempt
status of all American organizations that provided aid to Israel. An
even more resolute action will now be required from a far-less
qualified President George W. Bush, to stop Sharon from carrying out
either a false-flag "Islamist" terrorist attack against an American
target, or a nuclear attack on Iraq or Iran. This is deadly serious
stuff, and your personal involvement in the effort to stop it is
vital.

Are you prepared to have the Sharon regime in Israel once again
blackmail an American President into starting a war in the Persian
Gulf, out of fear of an Israeli weapons of mass destruction attack on
Baghdad? Do you have any idea what the consequences will be for the
U.S. and world economy, if a new Persian Gulf War, costing American
taxpayers between $2-3 trillion, is launched today, under the current
conditions of a collapsing U.S. economy and a thoroughly bankrupt
world financial system?

I warned that the toleration for the swamp of Sharon agents inside the
Bush Administration, is another grave impediment to the President
taking the urgently required action, in concert with our European
allies and Russia, to stop Sharon from provoking this perpetual war.
In a recent mass-circulation LaRouche in 2004 release, "The Pollard
Affair Never Ended," I named the names of the leading Sharonists
inside the Bush Pentagon and State Department-Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle, Doug Feith, David Wurmser-some of whom literally prepared the
foreign policy doctrine of perpetual war for then-Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. These Netanyahu-Sharon Likud
moles inside the Bush foreign policy and national security
establishment are still suspected, now with more and more evidence of
involvement with the convicted Israeli spy, the American-born Jonathan
Pollard.

Since the release and circulation of a million copies of the "Pollard
Affair Never Ended" campaign document, new, even more damning evidence
has surfaced. Therefore, I must intensify my demand for a thorough
national security investigation into key staffers in the Office of
Vice President Dick Cheney, beginning with his chief of staff and
national security advisor, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Libby, a prot�g� of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz for the
past 30 years, has assembled a "shadow national security council" in
the Vice President's Office, which has protected the Israeli agents
nest inside the Pentagon and State Department-and blocked an urgently
needed purge of these Likudniks. Libby has his own longstanding deep
ties to the Sharon circles, including to the Pollard spy ring.

While out of government, Libby served between 1985-2000 as the
personal attorney for fugitive swindler Marc Rich. Rich was indicted
by the U.S. Justice Department in 1983 for tax evasion and for trading
with the enemy, and he fled the United States, establishing a
luxurious hide-away in Zug, Switzerland.

Today, according to Israeli sources, Rich is under investigation, for
illegal contributions to Ariel Sharon's last political campaign. He
has been involved in Russian Mafia operations in Africa, and, through
his Marc Rich Foundation in Israel, has openly financed international
operations of the Israeli Mossad. Libby's law partner and mentor,
Leonard Garment, was a pivotal player in the Israeli government's
damage control effort, following the Pollard arrest in November 1985,
and he served as the attorney for Israeli Air Force Col. Aviem Sella,
the man who recruited and deployed Jonathan Pollard.

Now, Ariel Sharon's regime is Hell-bent on provoking a regional war in
the Middle East, a war pivoted on an Israeli pre-emptive attack on
Iraq. The threat is that, if President Bush does not virtually
exterminate Iraq, and neighboring countries, too, Israel will. This
means the likely use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. All
the while, Sharon's Washington moles are operating under the shadows
of the Vice President and the Secretary of Defense of the United
States. If Sharon is to be stopped from launching World War III in the
Middle East, this entire Pollard stay-behind apparatus must be
thoroughly investigated, exposed, and removed from government-now! It
is time for these Israeli agents and spies to be kicked out of
government, and the Israeli government to desist from its nuclear
blackmail. I demand it. I can not believe that any sane and patriotic
American would not back me up "100%" on this specific issue.

Support me actively on this issue. If you are serious about the
security of our nation and its people, I should be able to count on
you.

<http://www.larouchein2004.net/pages/pressreleases/2002/020918isrblackmail>_
prt.htm

the following is the Israeli black propaganda article:

<http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html>

Israel is the third largest arms dealer in the world. They have
violated hundreds of UN resolutions and they constitute a threat to
the entire Middle East, having occupied three countries, Syria
(www.ussliberty.org <http://www.ussliberty.org>) Lebanon, and
Palestine.

So, why not bomb Israel?

<http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=334318>

ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW THE ABOVE ARTICLE BY FISK IS THE ONLY
PRESS/MEDIA THAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR THAT MENTIONED THAT RITTER WAS
MAKING REGULAR TRIPS TO ISRAEL TO BRIEF THE ISRAELIS AS TO WHAT HE WAS
DOING WITH THE UNSCOM WEAPONS INSPECTIONS TEAMS IN IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE
UNDER THE DIRECTION OF RICHARD BUTLER. NO WONDER IRAQ WANTED THEM OUT
BACK IN 1998 AS I CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND SUCH (ESPECIALLY AFTER ISRAEL
HAD VIOLATED IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY WITH THE EARLIER BOMBING OF THE NUCLEAR
REACTOR).

I HOPE SUCH SPYING DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IF PEACE IS GIVEN A CHANCE BY
aLLOWING WEAPONS INSPECTORS BACK INTO IRAQ... HOWEVER, I THINK THE
ONLY WAY TO PREVENT A US ZIONIST-DRIVEN INVASION WOULD BE TO FLOOD
BAHGDAD WITH US AND EUROPEAN PEACE ACTIVISTS... IRAQ COULD PUT THEM UP
FOR A YEAR TO LEARN ARABIC OR SIMILAR.

OUR BIASED PRO-ISRAEL MEDIA ONLY SOMETIMES MENTIONS SPYING BUT NOT
THAT IT WAS ISRAELI SPYING VIA UNSCOM... THE BRITISH PRESS/MEDIA
PROVIDES MUCH BETTER
COVERAGE...

Subject: ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS AS WELL MANY
AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP TO ISRAELI TREACHERY LIKE WITH THE USS LIBERTY
ATTACK IN WHICH ISRAEL MURDERED 34 SAILORS AND WOUNDED 171 MORE JUST
TO STEAL EVEN MORE LAND IN THE GOLAN IN SYRIA:

<http://www.ussliberty.org>

israel should be made to accept UN weapons inspections as well FOR ITS
NUKES AND CHEMICAL/BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS:..


Not In Our Name... <http://www.nion.us/> Petition against a war with
Iraq.

<http://www.itsforums.co.uk/zone0/viewforum.php?f=10>

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=668>

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=643>

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 26, 2010, 9:35:38 PM1/26/10
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here@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbagoni) wrote in news:4b5ee693.1047968
@news.eternal-september.org:

>
>
>
> A lotta harm has been done in the name of religion, Akmed.
>
> On the other hand, a lotta inappropriate hate has been foisted upon
> the concept of religion.


The "concept of religion" is as practical as the concept
of the Great Pumpkin or the Tooth Fairy.

Obama Nation = Abomination

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Jan 26, 2010, 9:42:13 PM1/26/10
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It keeps a certain % of the human race from murder, rape, and mayhem.

Unfortunately, it spurs certain sects to do those things.

On balance, it's a good thing if the faithful would follow their
creeds as written, except for the Muzzies whose creed directs murder,
rape, and mayhem.

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CB

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You're driven not by the love for freedom but of the hateful lust for death
and the Deceiver's 'promise' of paradise.

Israeli Jews were forced off their land, the birth place of Jesus, the
Messiah millennia ago. Jews came back from the world over after being
persecuted by Arabs and Nazis. They prevailed through Providence and fist.
The UN gave charter to Israel after a thousand years in exile. Jews have
made the desert bloom and Arab muslims hate it.

WTF have Arabs done to bring life to modern Persia?

Nothing, only death

"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Obama Nation = Abomination

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Jan 27, 2010, 8:32:06 AM1/27/10
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:03:36 -0600, Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

"I ask you to consider the following:

Jihad

If we can see that the Islamic system of salvation based upon
works cannot guarantee salvation, but fighting in jihad can, and we
could see why Muslims terrorists would be eager to die (and take
others with them) for the cause of their religion. It is the only way
they can be guaranteed paradise. It is this fundamental principle in
Islam that encourages terrorism.

"Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world
for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether
he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great
(value)." (4:74, Yusifali).
"Allah's Apostle said, "Allah guarantees (the person who carries out
Jihad in His Cause and nothing compelled him to go out but Jihad in
His Cause and the belief in His Word) that He will either admit him
into Paradise (Martyrdom) or return him with reward or booty he has
earned to his residence from where he went out," (Hadith Vol. 9, Book
93, # 555).


Michael Ejercito

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On Jan 26, 5:06 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Salute To Our Muslim Martyrs
> Musil Shehadeh
>
> As a Christian Palestinian, I cannot but bow my head in full reverence
> and admiration to our Muslim brothers who are teaching the Israelis
> and the world the real meaning of self-sacrifice in the face of cruel
> occupation.  You can call them what you want but you cannot deny them
> the pinnacle of courage when they offer their own lives at the altar
> of freedom, not only for their own religious order but also for all of
> us. No power, be it the Israeli rocket, its F-16s, its tanks, or its
> nuclear weapons, can stand as a deterrent against such culmination of
> human sacrifice.
So you side with our enemies.

But then Nazi nithings are anti-American.


Michael

Topaz

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:32:06 GMT, here@yomomma. (Obama Nation =
Abomination) wrote:


>"I ask you to consider the following:
>Jihad
>
> If we can see that the Islamic system of salvation based upon
>works cannot guarantee salvation, but fighting in jihad can, and we
>could see why Muslims terrorists would be eager to die (and take
>others with them) for the cause of their religion. It is the only way
>they can be guaranteed paradise. It is this fundamental principle in
>Islam that encourages terrorism.


"The ultimate cause of this terrorism stems from our involvement in
and support of the criminal behavior of Israel.

TERROR IN RESPONSE TO TERROR

The Palestinians and many of their Arab allies have been the target of
a half century of unrelenting Israeli terrorism.

In the late 1940s the Zionists took over Palestine and drove out over
600,000 people from their homes through widespread acts of terrorism.
Among those events was the sadistic massacre of 254 Palestinian mostly
old men, women and children at Deir Yassin. After the bloodletting,
the Jews then purposely publicized the event so as to make the people
flee in panic from their homes and businesses from which they still
haven't been allowed to return.

Former Israel Prime Minister, Menachem Begin, boasted of the
importance of the massacre of Deir Yassin in his book The Revolt: The
Story of the Irgun. He wrote that there would not have been a State of
Israel without the "victory" of Deir Yassin. "The Haganah carried out
victorious attacks on other fronts... In a state of terror, the Arabs
fled, crying, 'Deir Yassin."
(1)

Nor did the massacres cease after the establishment of the Jewish
State; they continued in times of both peace and war. Following are
the names of some of them: Sharafat Massacre, Kibya Massacre, Kafr
Qasem Massacre, Al-Sammou' Massacre, the Sabra And Shatila Massacre,
Oyon Qara Massacre, Al-Aqsa Mosque Massacre, the Ibrahimi Mosque
Massacre, the Jabalia Massacre.
(2)

In a policy of ethnic cleansing, Israel continues to keep residents of
Palestine who were born there and whose families lived there for
countless generations, from returning home. At the same time, it gives
generous incentives for genetic Jews who never lived in Palestine to
immigrate from the far corners of the world.

The British also suffered greatly from Israeli terror, such as the
horrendous bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.

Israeli terror has not stopped since. Israel has more prisoners per
capita than any other nation of the world, more than Stalinist Russia
or Red China during its worst periods. It routinely tortures its
Palestinian prisoners, and is in fact the only nation in the modern
world that legally sanctions torture. In fact, a Jewish human rights
group in Israel confirmed in a 60-page report that 85% of Palestinian
detainees undergo torture while in
custody.(3) Even a major New York Times article by the Jewish Joel
Greenburg, stated matter-of-factly that Israel tortures 500 to 600
Palestinians every month
.(4)

Israel has targeted and assassinated thousands of Palestinian leaders,
and this includes scholars, clerics, businessmen, philosophers and
poets, anyone who inspires the Palestinian people to patriotism. These
assassinations have occurred all over the world, even in the United
States. In the process they have killed many thousands of women and
children. They have even repeatedly bombed Palestinian refugee camps
packed with women and children.

Not only did they establish their Israeli state over Palestinian land,
(in 1948 Palestinians personally owned over 90 percent of it) the Jews
took almost all of the Palestinian personal property: the land, farms,
homes and businesses. After they drove out the Palestinian refugees
and refused their return, they then passed an "abandoned property" law
that confiscated Palestinian property and gave to the Jews. The law
even has the chutzpah to forbid ever selling any of their stolen land
to Palestinians. (5)

In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon. During their invasion and 18 year
occupation an estimated 40,000 civilians died. Israel relentlessly
bombed and attacked cities and villages and also many hospitals and
orphanages (as documented by the Norwegian Red Cross) and devastated
the ancient and once beautiful city of Beirut.

The current Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon, doesn't dare even
step foot in Belgium or the Netherlands, fearing an indictment of the
World Court for war crimes. Sharon is responsible for the murder of
two thousand of refugees in the Sabra and Shatila camps in Lebanon.

Israel shot down a Libyan passenger airliner over the Sinai Peninsula
killing 111 people.

And it is has not just been the Palestinians who have suffered from
Israeli terror.

ZIONIST TERROR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES

Americans have also suffered from Zionist terror. In fact, Israel has
committed a number of acts of war against the United States.

Israel has a long record of terrorism against the United States going
all the way back to 1954. In that year, the Israel government plotted
to blow up American installations in Cairo and Alexandria and blame it
on Egyptian nationals. By chance the plot failed and was uncovered. It
was named the Lavon Affair after the man who supposedly set up the
terrorism, Pinhas Lavon, the Israeli Defense Chief. He resigned in
1955 over the incident. (6)

In 1967, Israel purposefully attacked with unmarked jet fighters and
torpedo boats, the U.S.S. Liberty, an American Navy vessel of the
Sinai Peninsula, even machine gunning the deployed life rafts of the
ship. The attack killed 31 American servicemen and wounded over
170.(7) They sought to sink the ship, kill all the Americans and
blame it on the Egyptians so they could have American support to
conquer larger areas of the Arab world.

The attack on the Liberty was nothing short of a vicious act of war
against the United States by Israel. In spite of the fact that U.S.
Secretary of State Dean Rusk and navy chief Admiral Moorer said that
the attack on the USS Liberty by Israel was deliberate. The
all-powerful Zionist Lobby prevented a formal Congressional
investigation. If the Lobby can even cover up horrendous Israeli
crimes against America, it's no wonder they can cover
up Israel's endless crimes against the Palestinians. Yet, after the
Liberty attack America didn't even reduce our billions of dollars of
aid, in fact the story quickly vanished from the news after a few
short days.

In 1986 Israel actually caused us to wrongly go to war and militarily
attack another nation. The Mossad planted a transmitter in Tripoli,
Libya and then broadcast terrorist messages in Libyan code indicating
Libyan responsibility for killing two Americans in the bombing of the
La Belle discoth�que in Germany.(8) (It was later proven that Libya
had nothing to do with the bombing) By use of this fraud, Israel
induced the American bombing of Libya. American bombs wrecked havoc
there. One of those killed was the infant daughter of the Libyan
President. It is certainly a dastardly act of war against a nation to
induce it into wrongly attacking another nation. Only a truly evil
enemy of America would do such a thing.

Every Palestinian and Arab is aware that Israel's half century of
terror could never have occurred without the active financial,
military, and diplomatic support of the United States. They know that
the Jewish Lobby has control of American Mideast Policy and the
Zionists can get whatever they want from Congress on issues important
to them.

It was American support of Israel's brutal invasion and occupation of
Lebanon in the 1980s that led directly to the bombing of the U.S.
Marine contingent, killing 300 American young men.

THE INVOLVEMENT OF AMERICAN IN ISRAELI CRIMES

Arabs know that almost every bomb that kills their people comes from
America, Every bullet, every tank, and every fighter plane, is
manufactured or paid for by American dollars. It is America's billions
of dollars of support that have enabled the Jewish state to terrorize
the Arab people for half a century.

Even though Israel invaded Lebanon and killed thousands of civilians,
America never threatened to bomb Tel Aviv (as it did Iraq) if Israel
refused to obey UN resolutions to withdraw. A comparison of America's
reaction to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait to that of Israel's invasion of
Lebanon is instructive.

America's one-sided policy foreign policy can be illustrated by the
different treatment afforded Israel and Iraq:

1. Iraq invaded Kuwait. Israel invaded Lebanon.
2. Perhaps 3000 Kuwait civilians died in the initial war with Iraq.
40,000
Lebanese died from the time of the invasion through the occupation.
3. Iraq disobeyed UN resolutions to leave Kuwait. Israel disobeyed UN
resolutions to leave Lebanon. (for 18 years)
4. Iraq broke international conventions on chemical, biological and
nuclear
weapons. Yet Israel is a far greater offender, having one of the
greatest stores
of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons in the world
5. Iraq refused UN inspections. Israel has always refused UN
inspection.
6. For these violations we bombed Iraq. In response to Israel's
crimes, America just
continued to send more billions of dollars.

American foreign policy was and continues to be Israeli policy. Israel
was not threatened with even a cutoff of U.S. aid as thousands of
Lebanese civilians died from the Israeli actions. Iraq was once a
friend of America with whom we bought oil and did much business.
America actually supported Saddam Hussein and Iraq's war with Iran.
Iraq did nothing against the United States, but it made the mistake of
becoming a strong enemy of Israel. So the Jewish and the
Jewish-controlled gentile bureaucrats, and Jewish-dominated
media quickly made our former friend, Saddam Hussein, into our
archenemy.

We dropped more explosives on Iraq country in a few weeks than we had
in the whole of the Second World War. We killed hundreds of thousands
of Iraqis including tens of thousands of civilians. Then we engaged in
a blockade and embargo of Iraq that even the anti-Iraq United Nations
says led to the deaths of at least 1,200,000 children and hundreds of
thousands of elderly. Let those Americans who don't understand the why
of this terrorism concentrate on this shocking fact. One million, two
hundred thousand
children have died as a direct result of our policy toward Iraq.

The Jewish Lobby and the Jewish-dominated media are very careful not
to let the American people fully understand the real reason for the
Iraqi war or the true issues in the Palestinian question. They really
don't want Americans to know why so many millions in the Arab world
hate us and why the number grows larger every day.

They don't want us to know the real reasons why Americans are so hated
- because it is the Jewish bosses of American foreign policy who are
the one's responsible for this growing hatred of America. Imagine the
anger and feelings of despair that would drive men to sacrifice their
own lives to get at us.

The Zionist bosses know that by America's supporting the criminal
policies of Israel spawns hatred against America. They are certainly
aware that bombing and going to war against nations solely for
Israel's benefit creates dedicated and fanatical enemies against
America, enemies who will seek revenge in American blood.

Of course, they never put America's interests first; their own Jewish
interests are always paramount. In actuality, they are fully aware
that the brutal and stupid acts of terror that recently happened in
New York and Washington only help the Zionist cause by engendering
enormous American anger at Israeli enemies, and make Americans more
easily manipulated to do the bidding of Israel.

Think about who really gained from this terror. Have the Palestinians
benefited? This terrorist act destroyed all the progress the
Palestinians have recently made with world opinion. It has blinded the
world to Israeli terrorism. Israel is the only winner in this tragedy.
They will now have a green light to do anything they want against the
Palestinians. They can kill any of their foes whether they are violent
or non-violent. They will get all the money they want from the
American people, and no one will be thinking
about their on-going suppression, murder and human rights violations
against the Palestinian people.

No, the Zionists are the only benefactors of the horrendous day of
terror on September 11, 2001. Ironic isn't it, that although Zionist
criminal actions led to this terror, only the Zionists will benefit
from it. Of course, they reason they benefit because the American mass
media is completely in their hands and it will never ask the proper
questions of why these horrendous events are happening. Unfortunately,
too few people will ever hear voices such as mine who dare to
challenge the Zionist lies.

That's why we are in this mess, because a foreign power has become the
most powerful lobby in the American government and controls the
direction of the mass communication media in America.

Let me repeat that one more time. The primary reason we are suffering
from terrorism in the United States today is because our government
policy is completely subordinated to a foreign power: Israel and the
efforts of world-wide Jewish Supremacism.

American Flags are flying everywhere in America in the aftermath of
the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. That is good,
for we need to be more patriotic. If we were more patriotic for the
real interests of America rather than for Israel, we would not now
suffer from terrorism.

And truly, what could be more patriotic than wanting our own country
to be led by our own people in the service of America; not a foreign
power or a powerful minority.

Yes, we must fight tooth and nail against any terrorists who attack
our country. But, we must understand why this terror is occurring, and
how it has been spawned. It has occurred because of long-standing
treason against the United States and her people.

WHAT HAS ZIONISM COST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

The Jewish Lobby and media power has cost the United States about 6
billion dollars a year in foreign aid and weapons, almost one third of
America's entire foreign aid budget during the last half century and
as much money spent in America's drug war.

It has poisoned our relations with the oil-rich Mideast nations. In
response to our policies, the Arabs came together and developed their
"oil weapon" which has cost Americans at least ten at least ten
trillion dollars in higher oil costs.

It has alienated the entire Arab world, leading to destruction or
confiscation of billions of dollars of American property in those
countries, kidnapping of American citizens, and generated enormous
hatred for the American people.

How has Israel has paid us back for our support? They have
continually spied on us on us (the Jonathan Pollard Case), sold our
highest secrets (such as to the biggest nucleur threat to us currently
in the world: the Communist Chinese) and stolen our enriched uranium
for their illegal nucleur weapons.

They have launched terrorist attacks against the United States such as
the Lavon Affair and the Attack on the USS Liberty. Both these acts
were nothing short of vicious acts of war against the United States.
Providing false information for America to wrongly go to war against
another country is also nothing less than an Israeli act of war
against the United States. Yet, in response to these despicable
actions against America, our Zionist controlled leaders did not even
reduce our billions of dollars of financial and military aid to
Israel. We give Israel about 6 billion dollars in aid each year, that
is more than all the nations of Sub-Saharan Africa, the Caribbean and
South America.

What is the latest cost of our subservience to the criminal actions of
Zionism? The latest price we have paid is the horrendous acts of
terrorism on September 11, 2001.

The powerful agents of Israel in American media and government are
ultimately responsible for this terror against the United States just
as surely as if they themselves had piloted those planes into the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

And now they cynically plan to use the terror that they themselves
created to increase the cycle of violence against Israel's enemies.
You can be sure that the Zionist powers plan to do far more than
simply punish the perpetrators of these events. America will once
again be used to strike against whomever Israel wants.

An indiscriminate or intemperate response from America would
ultimately produce even more hatred against America, and bring more
terroristic acts upon the heads of American people. The increasing
cycle of hatred is exactly want the Zionists want, for their aim that
we will fight Israel's enemies for them, spilling our blood instead of
theirs. They are only ones who truly benefit from America's pain.
Rather than Israel, we will pay the
ultimate price.

Unless we heal the wounds and give America a better course, every new
missile and bomb we send will come back to us again. Every life we
take in foreign lands will result in more American lives lost here and
abroad. America will sink more and more into uncertainty and fear.

We must have cool heads now and break this cycle of violence.

Many traitors in our government have supported Zionism's criminal
activities rather than the true interests of the American people. They
have spawned the hatred that drove these terrible acts. Unless their
power is broken Americans will be haunted by an increasing specter of
terrorism.

Let us pray for the American victims of these events and for their
suffering families. Let us swiftly and harshly punish the perpetrators
of these dastardly acts.

But, even more importantly, let us understand why these events
occurred and how we can heal the hatred against our nation.

Once we understand the reason why, then we will all agree on the sure
way to prevent such terroristic acts in the future.

The solution to this huge problem is extremely obvious and it is very
simple.

America must heed the farewell address of the Father of our Country
and "avoid foreign entanglements."

And we must always put America and the American People first."
David Duke
September 15, 2001
www.Davidduke.com

FOOTNOTES

1. Begin, M. (1964). The Revolt: The Story Of The Irgun. Tel-Aviv:
Hadar
Pub. p.162.
2. Erlich, G. (1992). Not Only Deir Yassin. Hebrew Daily Ha'ir. May
6.
3. Sami Sockol, Moshe Reinfeld (1998) May 20. the Israeli daily,
Ha'aretz
4. Joel Greenberg (1993) Israel Rethinks Interrogation of Arabs
Aug. 14
New York Times
5. Badi, J. (1960). Fundamental Laws Of The State Of Israel. New
York.
p.156.
6. Bar-Joseph, Uri (1995)Intelligence Intervention in the Politics
of
Democratic States: The United States, Israel, and Britain. University
Park,
PA: Penn State Press,
7. Ennes, J. (1979). Assault On The Liberty. New York: Random
House.
8. Ostrovsky, Victor. (1995) The Other Side of Deception: A Rogue
Agent
Exposes the Mossad's
Secret Agenda. New York: Harper
9. See the chapter on media control in my book, My Awakening. Also
available at Davidduke.com
10. Bill Gertz (1993) Washington Times and Michael R. Gordon, New
York
Times Oct.13
11. A & L Cockburn (1991) Dangerous Liaison


>
>"Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world
>for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether
>he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great
>(value)." (4:74, Yusifali).
>"Allah's Apostle said, "Allah guarantees (the person who carries out
>Jihad in His Cause and nothing compelled him to go out but Jihad in
>His Cause and the belief in His Word) that He will either admit him
>into Paradise (Martyrdom) or return him with reward or booty he has
>earned to his residence from where he went out," (Hadith Vol. 9, Book
>93, # 555).
>

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

Topaz

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:18:36 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>You're driven not by the love for freedom but of the hateful lust for death
>and the Deceiver's 'promise' of paradise.

Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.

Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium


of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such


as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,

first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually


solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.

>Israeli Jews were forced off their land, the birth place of Jesus, the
>Messiah millennia ago. Jews came back from the world over after being
>persecuted by Arabs and Nazis. They prevailed through Providence and fist.
>The UN gave charter to Israel after a thousand years in exile.


The Old Testament does say that God likes one race of people more than
others. It calls this race the Israelites. Nature wants the most
advanced and evolved race to take over. This is obviously the White
race. Compare Europe to Africa.

This is the definition of the word "adam" in Strong's Concordance:

"to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:- be
(dyed, made) red (ruddy)."

This can only be describing a White man. Look at people today
and see which ones have rosy red cheeks. They are light skinned White
people.

The Bible says David was ruddy. This is the definition of the
Hebrew word "ruddy":

"reddish (of the hair or of the complexion):-red, ruddy."

David had rosy cheeks (or red hair) and did not look like a
typical Jew.

The original Israelites were White people.

Jews are like the American Indians of today. These people say they
are Indians but the original Indians were clearly described as having
red skin. Today Indians may look brown or white, but not red. Neither
are Jews like the original Israelites.

The religious leaders of the Jews were the Pharisees. Jesus
condemned them in the harshest words.

Matthew 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?"

The New Jewish Encyclopedia, edited by David Bridger, PH.D in
association with Samual Wolk, Rabbi, J.S.D, copyright 1962, Published
by Behrman House, inc.,1261 Broadway, New York 1, N.Y., Library of
Congress Catalog Card Number: 62-17079, says on page 376:

"The Pharisees are therefore regarded as those authorities who helped
develop and preserve traditional Judaism as it is known today."

The old drawing of Jesus were probably correct. He probably had blond
hair and blue eyes.

John 7:1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would
not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him."

John 20:19 "the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled
for fear of the Jews"

2 Co 11:24 "Of the Jews five times recieved I forty stripes save
one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned"

Mathew 27: 20+25 "But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the
multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus...then
answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our
children."

Acts 25:24 "ye see this man, about whom all the multitude of the Jews
have dealt with me, both at Jerusalem and also here, crying that he
ought not to live any longer."

John 8:42,44,48 "Jesus said unto them...Ye are of your father the
devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from
the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth
in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a
liar, and the father of it...Then answered the Jews..."


>Jews have
>made the desert bloom and Arab muslims hate it.

By Jim Taylor

I believe I can, in one fell swoop prove that we have the
dumbest country on earth. All I need to do is mention that since 1948,
Americans have given Israel over 15 million dollars a day from your
salaries, paychecks and various earnings. No other nation on this
earth is dumb enough to do that not even the African ones. And to make
it worse you people do it gladly and with joy in your hearts. No one
complains, except me. Everyone else seems to think it is all right for
every American citizen to be robbed in this manner every day of their
lives with no end in sight. Can any nation be dumber that this? Most
Americans are so enslaved via Zionist propaganda and government
pronouncements that they think we owe this money so the Israelis can
live a much better life than in the good old USA. They have luxuries
you cannot afford. They take vacations all over the world which
Americans on average cannot afford. And when they do this they always
America and criticize you people who are the very ones who provide
them with these opportunities. I say you cannot get dumber than that.
The Israelis buy expensive things with YOUR money and then make fun of
you for being this dumb.

The worst part about this involuntary servitude is that the cruel
and criminal Israelis use YOUR money for arms to murder Arabs on a
daily basis, and sometimes they also kill Americans with your money.
So every American taxpayer is guilty of murder because under the law
anyone who pays someone to commit murder is equally guilty.

If the Arabs are so stupid and inefficient as the Zionists tell us,
how was it when the Palestinians ran Palestine they never needed help
from the U.S. or anyone else. The ran that state very well without a
cent of assistance from any other place.

>
>WTF have Arabs done to bring life to modern Persia?
>
>Nothing, only death
>

Why is Islam so feared and derided today?
Ian Buckley - Shamireaders June 19, 2005

Pound's biographer Professor Hugh Kenner - with whom I had the honour
of corresponding shortly before his death - considered that without
its poets the world would have already have long since succumbed to
total exhaustion.

More practically, perhaps, we can view religion as playing a similar
valuable role in preserving traditional societies, and maintaining
higher values than the almighty dollar. But not all faiths have 'what
it takes' to resist the trend towards a world turned into a counting
house on top of a rubbish dump.

Indeed, both Judaism and the Protestant variant of Christianity are
implicated, more or less, in the rise of capitalism. Additionally,
traditionalist Catholics believe that their Church is now a shadow of
its former state, having virtually self-destructed after Vatican II.
While Eastern Orthodoxy and even Japanese Shinto play their honourable
part in resisting the rush towards a porno-trash non-culture, it is
pre-eminently Islam that is the biggest stumbling block in the way of
the New World Order.

In the first place Islam is a profoundly and genuinely democratic
faith, as opposed to the 'democracy' of fakery and computerised
trickery that characterised the election of Bush and Bliar. Following
on from this, Muslims also hold true to economic democracy in the form
of the prohibition of usury. Though now abandoned, this was also once
a doctrine of the Christian Church. Such a fundamental point is, to
say the least, unappreciated by the false prophets of globalist
capitalism, always on the lookout for fresh lands to reduce to a bland
and hence profitable mass - or mess.

When Muslims, like those 'extremist' Iranians, reject the societies
(perhaps non-societies might be a better term) of Britain and the US,
are they really wrong to do so? Or are they just being sensible in not
wanting a taste of the growing gap between rich and poor, the drug
addiction, the sleaze, the corruption, the social breakdown, the urban
gun crime and trash TV that more and more characterises these two
countries today?

Significantly, terms such as Ummah and Dar-al-Islam are more or less
untranslatable, indicating a degree of cohesion and comradely
brotherhood that those outside the Arabic and Muslim world can barely
understand.

Though few of us realise it, we in the West are spoon-fed a bogus view
of reality: the truth only comes out in peripheral areas. Times,
Telegraph and Observer dribble on and on about the wonderful EU
constitution, or how we must 'democratise' Iraq1. However in the
travel sections of such papers you can still read the occasional
comment on the wonderful hospitality to be found in Libya or Syria, in
spite of everything that happened in recent years.

Apparently, tourists there can find themselves being invited, after a
passing acquaintance with a citizen of those 'evil' countries, to stay
and eat in private homes. Just try doing that in New York or London!
As Gavin Maxwell wrote of his stay in pre-Saddam and pre-American
Apocalypse Iraq :

'Throughout our journey I was struck by the boorishness of Western
hospitality by contrast with that of the Arabs. If a stranger rings a
doorbell in Europe, he must produce some very good reason before he
can get into the house at all, much less eat there as a guest; yet in
the lands where there are neither doors nor doorbells the stranger is
not asked the reason for his presence, and to hesitate in setting food
before him would be
shameful.'...

As is clear from the Last Sermon of the Last Prophet, true Islam has a
civilised attitude towards woman...:

'O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your
women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have
taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His
permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right
to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be
kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it
is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you
do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste. '...

America today, in line with its stultifying decay, hardly produces any
new contributors to the world of thought. Though scarcely comparable
to Mencken or Brooks Adams, the present-day philosophic duo of Beavis
and Butthead have it right: 'People are STUPID'.

Yes, people are stupid, especially modern Britons or Americans. They
are pleased to accept assessments of one of the world's great
religions from various self-interested parties with an axe to grind -
from tame professors run by the intelligence agencies, to
fundamentalist 'Christian' Zionist nutcases who want to bring on
Armageddon...

As for Muslims and Arabs in general, they can take some small comfort
from the words of Beregond, the soldier of Gondor, in Tolkien's Lord
of the Rings: 'We have this honour: ever we bear the brunt of the
chief hatred of the Enemy.'

RichTravsky

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China Blue Oyster Cult wrote:
> RichTravsky <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > You make the mistake of conflating science and scientific method. (The
> > > > arabs
> > > > beat
> > > > the monk by several hundred years...)
> > >
> > > And those Arabs were moslems.
> >
> > So? Darwin was christian. So?
>
> Impossible. You have already shown christians are the enemies of Darwin. You

Galileo was christian too. Look what happened to him.

> also haven't bothered to name the arab you're referring to. And polytheistic
> greeks still predate them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Optics

Just because someone is aof a particular religion doesn't mean that religion
is sponsoring the work. You really think some rabbi ordered/funded Einstein
to work on relativity?

> > > > Religion was not necessary for medicince; even animals self medicate.
> > >
> > > The invention of medicine in Greece was linked to their religion.
> > > Zorastarian
> > > medicine was also based on their religion.
> >
> > "Medicine" has been around for a long time. Before religion. My dog eats
> > grass when
> > ill.
>
> And birds build nest, so there is nothing uniquely human in building
> skyscrapers. "Medicine" is not about eating these leaves or those. It's about

Actually it is. It's part of it. Herbal remedies anyone?

> setting bones, trepanning, concentrating plant and animal derived compounds,
> creating a model of the human body and developing treatments from that. All
> those early models were religion inspired.

Cite ->

> > > > And charity does not need religion.
> > >
> > > Charity outside your family group was a christian invention.
> >
> > Charity does not need religion. Never has. Even apes are charitable.
>
> Yes, yes, Jane Goodall did describe those Ape Aid concerts.
>
> So what people first practiced charity outside their family group and what was
> their inspiration? You seem to be claiming that had nothing to do with religion,
> so I'm sure you can point out when it happened.

Inspiration? Family ties.

http://humanorigins.si.edu/ha/shanidar.html

Ellie Light

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Christians in Islamic Countries Targeted

WASHINGTON - The situation of Christians has deteriorated in many
Islamic countries since the terrorist attacks on the U.S. and the
subsequent U.S.-British raids on Afghanistan, according to Paul
Marshall, a senior fellow at the Center for Religious Freedom.
A prominent U.S. imam Monday assailed as un-Islamic the persecution of
Christians in Muslim countries ranging from Indonesia to Nigeria. "The
Koran enjoins Muslims to treat everybody with dignity and compassion,"
said Muzzamil Siddiqi, director of the Islamic Society of Orange
County, Calif., when asked about the murder threats, violence, forced
conversions, incarceration and discrimination some Christians are
being subjected to.

Diane Knippers, president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy,
praised Siddiqi's remarks as a wonderful statement. "We need more of
this. We need Muslim groups in the U.S. to raise their voices on
behalf of Christians in predominantly Muslim areas."

Knippers pointed out that "U.S. churches were quick to speak up on
behalf of Moslems in our society. They rightly encouraged all America
to treat them with respect. At the same time the churches should speak
up when Christians in Muslim areas are in jeopardy."

The National Council of Churches' news service also condemned
persecution Monday.

"We consider persecution of any religious group unacceptable. We are
actively engaged in protecting Christians and other religious
minorities in countries around the world in partnership with
indigenous religious groups. To give specific details could jeopardize
both their security and our efforts on their behalf," the service said
in a statement.

In a similar vein, Jerry Powers of the U.S. Conference of Catholic
Bishops stated that his church had been consistently active on behalf
of persecuted Christians abroad.

Marshall, an internationally recognized authority on religious rights,
said Christians were in peril in a long belt of Muslim nations
stretching from the eastern parts of Indonesia all the way to West
Africa.

In some cases this was due to government policies; in others religious
fanatics are menacing Christians, embarrassing national governments,
he added.

In an interview with United Press International, Marshall drew a grim
picture, country by country:


Indonesia: In the eastern islands of this largest Muslim nation in the
world, white-uniformed militiamen of Laskar Jihad are forcibly
converting Christians to Islam. Marshall said this caused considerable
embarrassment to the government, which did not condone such actions.
This campaign has so far cost the lives of 5,000 to 6,000 people, the
British-born scholar related. "There are links between Laskar Jihad
and top terrorist Osama bin Laden," he said.


Bangladesh: Small radical groups supporting Osama bin Laden have
bombed or burned down churches.

Pakistan: Christians depend on the protection of the government as
several Muslim leaders have issued fatwas (religious decrees) to kill
two Pakistani Christians for every Afghan Muslim who dies in the
Anglo-American air raids.
There have also been attacks on Christians along the Afghan border,
Marshall told UPI.


Egypt: The government discriminates against Christianity by financing
the construction of mosques, while denying permits for the
reconstruction of Christian sanctuaries, according to Marshall.

Saudi-Arabia: In the last two months, 15 Christian expatriates have
been jailed for worshiping in private homes, and three have been
tortured, according to the religious rights organization International
Christian Concern.
An information officer at the Saudi embassy in Washington, who
declined to give his name, denied this Tuesday: "As far as we know
this is not true. We are not aware of any in jail at this time," he
said.

No religion other than Islam is allowed in the kingdom, and there is
no church. When asked about this, Abdullah M. Khouj, rector of the
Islamic Center in Washington, replied, "This is a matter to be
negotiated between governments."


Sudan: Some 2 million people, chiefly Christians, have been killed in
a civil war fought by the radical Islamic regime in the north of the
country against non-Arab population in the south, according to several
sources including Marshall and Diane Knippers' Institute on Religion
and Democracy.
For several years now, international religious rights organizations
have reported that Christians are being raped, tortured to death and
crucified.


Somalia: Anybody found out to be a Christian will quickly be beheaded
by Muslim vigilantes, Marshall said.

Nigeria: In 12 states, versions of Shari'a law, the Islamic penal
code, have been imposed - in violation of the constitution of that
African federal republic.
After the imposition of Islamic law, riots ensued killing 5,000 in the
city of Kaduna alone, said Marshall. Other reports put the death toll
at around 1,000.


In other Muslim countries, such as Algeria, Islamic radicals opposed
to the government are killing other Muslims, primarily women and
children although they have also murdered priests, nuns and even a
bishop, Marshall explained.
Others, such as the once-tolerant, formerly republican African nation
of Mauritania are now taking tougher measures against Christians,
Marshall continued. "If you arrive with a Bible, they'll take it off
you. And it's illegal to preach Christianity to the locals."

Becoming a Christian in many Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia,
Iran or Afghanistan can mean that one loses one's job, one's ability
to be educated, one's family, and even one's life, Wendy Norvell of
the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board told
UPI.

Added Robert Reccord, president of the SBC's North American Mission
board, "We look forward to the day when Christians living in Islamic
countries will have the same religious freedoms that Muslims currently
enjoy in the United States and Canada.�

CB

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:18:36 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>You're driven not by the love for freedom but of the hateful lust for
>>death
>>and the Deceiver's 'promise' of paradise.
>
>
> Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
> the "end times" for over two thousand years so far.

At no time in the history of the world has knowledge increased this fast.
The computer has enabled communications to instantly go around the world.
Just last week I heard that up until the 19th century chemical compounds
totaled around 10,000, two years ago, about a million. Just last year alone
there were 1 million compounds registered.

The signs of His coming are coming fast but I won't bore you with any but
one. Catholicism have confirmed hundreds of popes throughout the millennia.
Each one was given a pope scroll, there's only one left. It will go to a
Liberal pope who will betray Christ.

They think the one
> and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.

He'll come as Judge, not with politically correct enlightenment for
pinheads.

> And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world.

...
The Bible clearly states that the world is without end (Isaiah 45:17;
Ephesians 3:21). The disciples refer to an age, the Age of Grace-- the age
in which we now live. New Jerusalem (Heaven) is not somewhere in the sky (in
space). Rather, it descends to and rests upon Earth (Revelation 21:2).
...
http://www.prophecyfulfillment.com/s01a.html


They think wars
> and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
> will return soon.

II TIMOTHY CHAPTER 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters,
proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent,
fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of
God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such
turn away.
http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/bible.html

The no natural affection part is all around. Mothers killing their children
has become common place. Nancy Caragan's brother has just been accused of
killing their mother. In Orlando a woman has also been charged of killing
her mother.

>
> Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
> of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
> have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
> Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

It's commi/Marxist Athiets who have the highest death cult score.

>
> Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
> as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
> problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
> first Hitler and then the Muslims.

You're about the most morally relative (lost) soul I know. You don't
segregate Islamo-fascists from plain ole Muslims?

How generally relative.

These are the two who actually
> solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
> in a Muslim country.

You're such a victim

Psalm 137 is a story of Arab percucution of Jews.

Regarding Israel, GOD said: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will
curse him who curses you. All of the families of the earth will be blessed
in you."
(Genesis 12:3) <== (this is why the "Islamic world" is in ruins)

Regarding the reestablishment of Israel, GOD said: Now therefore thus saith
the Lord, the God of Israel . . . Behold, I will gather them out of all the
countries, whither I have driven them, in mine anger . . . and I will bring
them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: and they
shall be my people and I will be their God .
. . (Jeremiah 32:37-38) <== (this expalins the miracle "rebirth" of
Israel in 1948)

God Bless Israel!

God Bless America!

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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:54:32 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:


>At no time in the history of the world has knowledge increased this fast.
>The computer has enabled communications to instantly go around the world.
>Just last week I heard that up until the 19th century chemical compounds
>totaled around 10,000, two years ago, about a million. Just last year alone
>there were 1 million compounds registered.

Hey man, you're wasting your efforts on this idiot who merely
mindlessly copies and pastes the same old 10-15 repliest to anyone who
responds to him. He doesn't even read your posts.

Topaz

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"Christians and Moslems manage to get along in the Mid-East. This
writer observed them in Gaza. Baptists go to church next to the
Mosque, and when they are not in church, members seem to work together
as best they can. Churches are not a historic enemy to Islam in Iraq.
Coptic, Catholic, and Orthodox churches often date back to Roman
times, still standing with Christian cemeteries around them, undefiled
through the ages of Islamic domination. Christians in Iraq say they
do not hate Muslims, but many Evangelicals in America practice hatred
of Islam that is now manifested in destruction and death. Jesus words
object.

The Southern Baptist Convention has had no explanation for this
peaceful co-existence with Islam; its publications play it down or
ignore it. The evangelicals? views of the Mideast demand both racial
and religious hatred. The Baptist Mission Board even ignores its own
church in Gaza, housed in a dome roofed ancient mosque. This writer
documented the story of its members in a previous article.
Evangelicals tell us Islam detests Baptists and would kill them on
sight. Christians in the land of Islam live their lives out
otherwise, and any serious observation supports their version.

In Gaza the wall in front of the Baptist church has the same
anti-Israeli graffiti as does the wall in front of the Mosque nearby.
Their members suffer Israeli occupation side by side. If they do not
love each other, they certainly coexist in peace. We Hold These
Truths receives reports from Christians and Muslims from Damascus to
Ammon. There is an uneasy peace made worse by anti-Islamic statements
spewed forth from evangelical Enabler churches and celebrities in
America.

How would Islam benefit from bombing churches? If Christians stay
home from church or emigrate out of fear, how does this make Iraq more
independent? It does not.

It is sad that Iraqis would bomb other Iraqis who are hungry and
desperate for work and who hate the occupation, but who take
Army-funded jobs at a police station. But this can be understood in
war, the Iraqis do not want a compromised, 56-year occupation as the
Palestinians have.

Who benefits?
We don't know who planted the bombs but we do know that American
evangelical celebrities facilitated and enabled the act. Without the
Enablers constant condemnation of Islam, there would have been no
reason for the propaganda bombing of five churches, because there
would be no market for the propaganda that is being distributed
through the evangelicals in the USA.

We have read all the accounts of the bombings. As expected, they are
being blamed on an unknown Islamic group. Consider what is likely:

* If an Islamic militant group bombed the churches and wanted to
terrorize Christians, they would have taken credit for it the first
hour, as they have with kidnappings, and they would have promised more
bombings, or asked for something. No one did.

* The "group" that belatedly did claim the blame for the bombings
was
anonymous and unknown and did not have a formal name or spokesman. It
offered no plausible reason for this significant act. It could have
been created on a cell phone after the bombing or in an office in
London, and it probably was. The US-appointed Iraqi government did
not point this out, nor did our press.

* Most Muslims who we know fear God, they do not hate Him, and would
be correctly afraid to bomb a church--afraid of God, not of men. And
Muslims, unlike the Israelis, believe Jesus was on very good terms
with the one God, whom they call Allah. They do not challenge Allah;
they fear Him as righteous.

* If secularists did the bombing, there would be Muslims who would
know about It, and would tell. It was too big a scheme to keep it
quiet this long.

* The churches in Iraq are traditional, not evangelical; they do
not hold to the neo-evangelical interpretations that hold Israel to be
a God image that must be worshiped. They do not share the chosen
people theology that enables the war on Islam.

* Islam is not anti-Christian, as we Christians are told. The
Qur'an says much about Jesus and Mary, and is more than respectful.
One passage, (S.5.78-84) seems to be all about trust and coexistence
with followers of Christ. Verse 82 reads:

Strongest among men in enmity to the Believer wilt thou find the Jews
and Pagans; Nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find
those who say "We are Christians" because amongst there are men
devoted to learning. And men who have renounced the world and they are
not arrogant.

Clearly this was not written about evangelical-Zionist (Enablers) who,
to the contrary, openly call for genocide against Islam, even its
total liquidation, and some are boldly arrogant about it.

Many untrue yarns are spun on the Internet depicting a hate filled
Qur'an. We Hold These Truths has investigated several and found that
most are not there, or seem to be intentionally distorted. Our paper
called Internet Tales about Islam details some of these. We find some
statements we have been given by evangelical Enablers to be outright
untrue on their face. Even the most popular story among evangelicals
about the prize of "72 virgins" for martyrs in Paradise (like the car
bomber) may be a hoax. As best this writer can tell, it is not in the
Qur'an; we are still waiting for someone to show us otherwise.

One of the worst we have heard, Dr. Robert Morey, who calls himself a
"Christian" and who has written several books about Islam, openly
preaches for the incineration of Mecca, Medina and The Dome of the
Rock.

Leading Muslim clerics have condemned the bombing as cowardly and
unbecoming of Islam, but christian-Zionists take denial as a sign of
guilt. And prominent Christian leaders in Iraq have not suggested
Muslims were responsible, and have spoken out in solidarity with them.

Who Could Have Done It?
The State of Israel and what is currently being called the US
"Neo-Con" establishment, which really controls Israel and holds
absolute control over the present Bush administration and past Clinton
administration as well, are the beneficiaries of wars.

Israelis would not think twice of bombing churches because they have
already done it. They have also attacked mosques and killed Muslim
leaders in front of at least one mosque. Israelis have even been
known to damage their own synagogues to get sympathy. The State of
Israel shelled two or more Christian churches in Palestine. Israel's
agents are known to be operating in Iraq and are probably more likely
to have bombed the churches than the CIA or Halliburton's paid
mercenaries. They are used to this kind of assassination, and they
know how to keep quiet. If this is true, you can bet the incident will
just die down and disappear from the press.

The tale of the church bombings will never disappear from the
preaching of the evangelical-Zionist, who will blame the Arabs
everywhere, with or without proof.

Who Is Responsible?
Though we will probably never know for certain who bombed the five
churches, we can be sure the blood is on the hands of the Enabler
reverends, evangelical celebrities, and on their willing followers.
The deaths of every one of the eleven church-going Christians is their
responsibility because without them there would be no reason for the
bombing. Whoever did it simply obliged these evangelical Enablers by
creating more grist for Israeli promoted Christian-Zionist hate mills.
Hate enabled the war and the occupation; hate keeps the occupation
going. Only love will end it.

An Israeli "BUS19", in which 11 Israeli civilians died, was imported
to the US from Israel in May. "Eleven" happens to be the same number
of civilian Iraqis killed in the five Church bombings. A team or
speakers associated with The Unity Coalition for Israel is touring
evangelical Enabler churches with the bus, giving the misleading
message that Palestinians are murderers, and Islam is a religion of
violence. Our account of this is called Israeli Hate-Bus Tours
America.

The five damaged churches are the Iraqi equivalent of BUS19, another
trophy to be displayed at churches in America. Without the insatiable
desire of christian-Zionist celebrities for more "proof of Arab
violence" there would have been no church bombings in Iraq because no
other purpose was served. This writer is no longer alone among
Followers of Christ in blaming evangelical Enablers for war.

As reported in the "New York Times," in a speech on March 9, 2003,
former President James Earl Carter criticized his own Southern Baptist
Convention for supporting the "unilateral attack on Iraq." Carter did
not dignify the attack by calling it a war. He went on to implicate
Israel in the occupation of Iraq, saying,

"a few Southern Baptist leaders (favor war) who were greatly
influenced by their commitment to Israel based on eschatological, or
final days theology."

Mr. Carter also stated some of the most profound and truthful words
ever heard at a Democratic convention in an interview after his speech
where he stated:

"The State of Israel is at the center of the problems in the Middle
East."

Christian pastor and writer Tony Campolo, speaking to United Methodist
leaders in Birmingham, Alabama, on June 3, 2004, warned that too many
Christians have become "evangelical Zionists" who favor ethnic
cleansing of Palestinians in the Middle East. This surprisingly candid
statement was covered in the Birmingham News quoting Campolo:

"Some evangelicals have gotten caught up in the theology that before
Christ can return, the Holy Land must belong to the Jews," and,

"They're really advocating ethnic cleansing. There's no justification
for that in Scripture."

We note: Ethnic cleansing means systematic murder! The Birmingham
News further quoted Campolo:

"Christian leaders such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, as well as
Tim Lahaye and Jerry Jenkins, authors of the best-selling "Left
Behind" end-times prophecy novels, have spread the "evangelical
Zionist" theme. "They're a very powerful group," The evangelical
community has gotten so pro-Israel that they've forgotten how to love
Palestinians."

The Presbyterian Church in America's leaders recently condemned The
Wall being built around the Palestinians, and voted by a wide margin
to divest itself of all Israeli assets from its multi-billion dollar
retirement fund. This is the first major church denomination to do
so.

Evangelical leaders must be challenged publicly by their own members.
To accomplish this Project Strait Gate was started 18 months ago, and
over 35 major evangelical churches, as well as conventions, have been
picketed for peace during their worship hours.

Five ladies and two men led a Strait Gate Project demonstration at two
churches last weekend in Southern California, with signs reading NO
MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL and BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS. One event was a
2004 Israel and Bible Prophesy Conference at the giant Calvary Chapel
in Chino, California. Several participants reported they were
pleasantly surprised with the response, not so much from the churches
as from the passersby. Many responded positively to the message of
the demonstration.

Strait Gate Ministries urges Followers of Christ to have their names
removed from membership rolls at any churches that fail to oppose the
continued war and occupation in the Mideast. We suggest you tell the
Reverend you might return once the Church regains Christ's admonition
to love one's brothers as yourselves. Until then, you might better
serve the Lord by supporting an Armenian or Coptic Church in Iraq.

We Hold These Truths/Strait Gate Ministries plans to distribute this
letter to about 100,000 Presbyterian Pastors and laymen leaders as an
encouragement to them. We wish to expand this number by tenfold to
other reverends in other denominations.

The challenge is overwhelming, the time short and the burden is
heavy."

WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS/STRAIT GATE MINISTRIES
http://www.whtt.org
P.O. Box 14491
Scottsdale, AZ 85267
480 947 3329 (cec...@whtt.org)

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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:54:32 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>
>At no time in the history of the world has knowledge increased this fast.
>The computer has enabled communications to instantly go around the world.
>Just last week I heard that up until the 19th century chemical compounds
>totaled around 10,000, two years ago, about a million. Just last year alone
>there were 1 million compounds registered.
>
>The signs of His coming are coming fast

You will be saying the same thing ten years from now, and also in
fifty years if you live that long.


> but I won't bore you with any but
>one. Catholicism have confirmed hundreds of popes throughout the millennia.
>Each one was given a pope scroll, there's only one left. It will go to a
>Liberal pope who will betray Christ.

You say Jesus will soon return because you are down to your last
scroll. I say think about it some more. And why can't they just make
more scrolls?

>
> They think the one
>> and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
>
>He'll come as Judge, not with politically correct enlightenment for
>pinheads.

I take it clammering for war against Muslims will not be judged as a
bad thing.

>
>> And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world.
>
>...
>The Bible clearly states that the world is without end (Isaiah 45:17;
>Ephesians 3:21). The disciples refer to an age, the Age of Grace-- the age
>in which we now live. New Jerusalem (Heaven) is not somewhere in the sky (in
>space). Rather, it descends to and rests upon Earth (Revelation 21:2).

If the world is without end. And as you just said, Jesus is not going
to straighten everything out, then it will be pretty much the same as
it is now?


> They think wars
>> and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
>> will return soon.
>
>II TIMOTHY CHAPTER 3
>1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

So you are saying it is good for perilous times to come and that is
what you want.


>2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters,
>proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
>3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent,
>fierce, despisers of those that are good,
>4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of
>God;
>5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such
>turn away.

>


>The no natural affection part is all around. Mothers killing their children
>has become common place.

Islam outlaws abortion.

>Nancy Caragan's brother has just been accused of
>killing their mother. In Orlando a woman has also been charged of killing
>her mother.
>

>It's commi/Marxist Athiets who have the highest death cult score.

True

Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)

Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."

Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.

David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."

The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."

In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.

In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.

The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.

In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.

One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.

Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.

"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."

The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."

The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."

From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."

Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.

Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."

>
>You're about the most morally relative (lost) soul I know. You don't
>segregate Islamo-fascists from plain ole Muslims?

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"The fight which Fascist Italy waged against Jewry's three
principal weapons, the profound reasons for which may not have been
consciously understood (though I do not believe this myself) furnishes
the best proof that the poison fangs of that Power which transcends
all State boundaries are being drawn, even though in an indirect way.
The prohibition of Freemasonry and secret societies, the suppression
of the supranational Press and the definite abolition of Marxism,
together with the steadily increasing consolidation of the Fascist
concept of the State--all this will enable the Italian Government, in
the course of some years, to advance more and more the interests of
the Italian people without paying any attention to the hissing of the
Jewish world-hydra.
"The English situation is not so favorable. In that country
which has 'the freest democracy' the Jew dictates his will, almost
unrestrained but indirectly, through his influence on public opinion."

>
>How generally relative.
>
> These are the two who actually
>> solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
>> Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
>> liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
>> in a Muslim country.
>
>You're such a victim

>


>Psalm 137 is a story of Arab percucution of Jews.
>
>Regarding Israel, GOD said: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will
>curse him who curses you. All of the families of the earth will be blessed
>in you."
>(Genesis 12:3) <== (this is why the "Islamic world" is in ruins)
>
>Regarding the reestablishment of Israel, GOD said: Now therefore thus saith
>the Lord, the God of Israel . . . Behold, I will gather them out of all the
>countries, whither I have driven them, in mine anger . . . and I will bring
>them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: and they
>shall be my people and I will be their God .
>. . (Jeremiah 32:37-38) <== (this expalins the miracle "rebirth" of
>Israel in 1948)
>
>God Bless Israel!
>
>God Bless America!
>

The Old Testament does say that God likes one race of people more than

Topaz

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I read his post, because he wrote his opinions in a civil manor. Maybe
you are thinking of your own posts.

Here are my policies:

1. I do not read rude posts.

2. I snip rude posts completely in my reply.

3. I don't give any personal reply to rude posts but only a cut and
paste.

4. I don't let rude posts get the last word.

America's Worst Mistake, Obama

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Jack gets the last word on anybody.

I betcha you're his next victim.


On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:06:55 -0600, Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:14:02 GMT, here@yomomma. (America's Worst

CB

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> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:54:32 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>At no time in the history of the world has knowledge increased this fast.
>>The computer has enabled communications to instantly go around the world.
>>Just last week I heard that up until the 19th century chemical compounds
>>totaled around 10,000, two years ago, about a million. Just last year
>>alone
>>there were 1 million compounds registered.
>>
>>The signs of His coming are coming fast
>
> You will be saying the same thing ten years from now, and also in
> fifty years if you live that long.

I should be gone

>
>
>> but I won't bore you with any but
>>one. Catholicism have confirmed hundreds of popes throughout the
>>millennia.
>>Each one was given a pope scroll, there's only one left. It will go to a
>>Liberal pope who will betray Christ.
>
> You say Jesus will soon return because you are down to your last
> scroll. I say think about it some more. And why can't they just make
> more scrolls?

There are other signs

>
>>
>> They think the one
>>> and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
>>
>>He'll come as Judge, not with politically correct enlightenment for
>>pinheads.
>
> I take it clammering for war against Muslims will not be judged as a
> bad thing.

It's Islamo-fascists (much like Liberalism) aim to steal the inheritance
promised by God to His faithful America and Israle defends against.

>
>>
>>> And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world.
>>
>>...
>>The Bible clearly states that the world is without end (Isaiah 45:17;
>>Ephesians 3:21). The disciples refer to an age, the Age of Grace-- the age
>>in which we now live. New Jerusalem (Heaven) is not somewhere in the sky
>>(in
>>space). Rather, it descends to and rests upon Earth (Revelation 21:2).
>
> If the world is without end. And as you just said, Jesus is not going
> to straighten everything out, then it will be pretty much the same as
> it is now?

No, as the Master of the field He separates the harvest from the chafe,
takes his harvest that's seed has fallen onto fertle soil, leaving the chafe
to fly away in the wind. Leaving chaos Liberalism to fend for its self after
the bridegroom has removed His bride, the church from the Tribulation that
we're just now feeling its birthing pains.

>
>
>> They think wars
>>> and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
>>> will return soon.
>>
>>II TIMOTHY CHAPTER 3
>>1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
>
> So you are saying it is good for perilous times to come and that is
> what you want.

My hope is that I'll not be here for that.

>
>
>>2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters,
>>proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
>>3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,
>>incontinent,
>>fierce, despisers of those that are good,
>>4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of
>>God;
>>5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such
>>turn away.
>
>>
>>The no natural affection part is all around. Mothers killing their
>>children
>>has become common place.
>
> Islam outlaws abortion.

While stoning women who go out without the burka hiding all but the eyes and
mercy killing daughters who show attention to a boy her father hasn't traded
her for.

>
>>Nancy Caragan's brother has just been accused of
>>killing their mother. In Orlando a woman has also been charged of killing
>>her mother.

Opps, it was Nancy's father, not her mother who was murdered allegedly by a
sociopath (without natural affection) son.

I have no comment on the above. I read about half of it. I have no way of
confirming it without some investigation which I'll not do.

I've heard that before but don't really care for it. God segregated the
people, spread us to the four corners when the Tower of Babble was
destroyed.

CB

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> In article <4b6231d0$0$4949$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,

> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> The signs of His coming are coming fast but I won't bore you with any but
>
> No, there aren't. It is said that it will be unexpected. Therefore if you
> expect
> it, you must be wrong.

Jeus COMMANTS us to know the season by the signs.

The revived Roman Empire is at hand, Do you deny that? Do you deny the NWO
of world government is at hand as well? Europe has mixed its population with
iron and clay (makes for a weak combination of Christian and Islam), of the
feet in the figure of Nebuchadrezzar's dream. If the feet of civilization
are weak by that mix, chaos will project weakness to Russia and China.

Another sign is technology exists for the Mark of the Beast chip to be
implanted so gubment may insure the security of the world against medical
services fraud, purchase of illegal firearms, banking transactions, travel
and political associations. 60 Minutes did a story of massive fraud within
Medicare. Specifically Miami medical shops at are fronts for recruiting the
destitute to help commit fraud. How much effort would it take for Obama and
his Marxist crew to pass the national Medical ID card only to offer the
Final Solution the MARK Card or imbedded chip when fraud runs rampant?
--
CB
Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


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> In article <4b634e62$0$5099$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,

> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> "Prussian China Blue" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:chine.bleu-955A3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > In article <4b6231d0$0$4949$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The signs of His coming are coming fast but I won't bore you with any
>> >> but
>> >
>> > No, there aren't. It is said that it will be unexpected. Therefore if
>> > you
>> > expect
>> > it, you must be wrong.
>>
>> Jeus COMMANTS us to know the season by the signs.
>
> You worry too much. That is your lack of faith.

Your enlightenment be ignorance of the Truth.


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"Having read most of the posts under the recent heading ' Are they
talking torture' I am amazed at the apparent naivety of most of those
posting.- Israel has been using all kinds of torturing methods for
decades, knowingly backed by the USA.
Within the last year there was an excellent program on Channel 4
England which looked in to the methods used in one infamous camp
called Khiam -- a snip below

(Palestinians arrested and 'interrogated' have been and are tortured
in one form or another. Although a place of such ghastly atrocities
that the Israeli government tried to deny it for many years, the
Khiam Detention and Interrogation Centre it maintained in Lebanon
from 1985-1999 during its occupation there is one of the most well
known (3, 4).) Unsnip.

The channel four programme was not easy to watch - from the many
methods described graphically, was that of the wives and children
being
tortured to make the prisoner confess, the TV team were at the now
closed camp - very atmospheric.


One search with Google, showing tens of thousands of different sites
will prove to him and anyone else that those in power must know.

A bit from one site =
Israel Shahak, head of the Israeli League for Human Rights, says:
"Slapping the face, beating the head against the wall, and beating
all parts of the body are common methods."
Victims are usually beaten by stick, boots, and gun butt all over the
body - on the head, limbs, stomach, genitals, accompanied by threats
of detaining or raping family members, or making them lose their
jobs.
But for Rhateb several other methods were used - he was wired up to
electrodes and bolts of high voltage current coursed agonizingly
through
his body. Later, he was hanged from the ceiling by one arm for hours.
After a few days, a man brought a water jug and told Rhateb that he
could drink as much as he wanted. However, acid was diluted in the
water and this caused him intense pain and severe burns.

The deprivation of basic necessities should also be considered as a
part of this torture; food and medical care are not provided and
sleeping is forbidden. Due to such methods, more than 500
Palestinian prisoners have died. More lucky ones suffer diseases
while others are maimed and physically disabled.

Last week, Amnesty International's annual report revealed that
Israeli forces arrested 1,200 Palestinians in 1997 for "security
reasons." Meanwhile, Israel also issued more than 1,900
administrative detention orders and detained 354 Palestinians at the
end of year.

Bear in mind, many of these people are not guilty of any crimes.
But just living on the wrong side in Palestine.

When doing a search just use the words ' Israel and torture', any way
round, you can also use 'camps'
John.

But isn't israel a "democracy"?"

John Bates

Way Back Jack

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MUSLIME SCHOOL BOOKS

Children As Bombs
By Ralph R. Reiland

As if things weren't crazy enough already in the Middle East, here's
the officially sanctioned message in sixth-grade Palestinian textbooks
for 11- and 12-year-old kids: "The noble soul has two goals: death and
the desire for it."

The goal isn't to build magnificent skyscrapers or write brilliant
novels or to work on cures for the world's most lethal diseases. The
noble goal for the noble soul is as simple as strapping on a dynamite
belt and blowing oneself into a million pieces in an Israeli pizza
shop.

The "death-and-the-desire-for-it" line is from a poem by Abd al-Rahim
Mahmoud. Along with other writings that glorify child martyrs, the
quote is included in "Our Beautiful Language," a standard text for
sixth-graders after the Palestinian Liberation Organization took
control over education in the Palestinian territories.

As officially stated, the underlying ethos of the Palestinian
curriculum is "built on the principle of breeding the individual on
the basis of serving society as a whole." Translated, that means
breeding kids who believe suicide and murder are noble, who believe
it's noble to create a society where the individual reaches his
highest stage of development by extinguishing his own individualism,
his own existence.

It's Jonestown, writ large, a cult of suicide for the collective, for
Palestine. Israel isn't on the maps in the Palestinian textbooks.

Abdullah Qura'an, a 12-year-old Palestinian boy, carried a 13-pound
bomb in his school bag into a checkpoint near Hablus. He didn't die,
because a cell phone rigged to set off the bomb didn't work. The
unwitting youngster was told he was carrying car parts.

Shortly thereafter, a 16-year-old suicide bomber, Amar al-Far,
outfitted for self-destruction by the Popular Front for the Liberation
of Palestine, killed three people in an open-air food market in Tel
Aviv.

Said the boy's mother: "Why did they choose my son? He was just a
child. It's immoral to send someone so young. They should have sent an
adult who understands the meaning of his deeds."

The boy's father told of his last encounter with his son: "I was
asleep when Amar woke me up. He kissed me and asked for two shekels,
45 cents. He left the house and I went back to sleep."

A recent article in Rolling Stone, "The Unending Torture of Omar
Khadr," tells the story of a 15-year-old captured by U.S. troops in
Afghanistan after he killed an American Special Forces soldier with a
grenade.

"Born into a fundamentalist Muslim family in Toronto," Omar Khadr "had
been prepared for jihad since he was a small boy," reports Jeff Tietz.
"His parents, who were Egyptian and Palestinian, had raised him to
believe that religious martyrdom was the highest achievement he could
aspire to. In the Khadr family, suicide bombers were spoken of with
great respect."

Before he turned 12, Omar had formal military training in bomb-making,
assault-rifle marksmanship, combat strategy and sniper tactics.

"Omar and his father and brothers had fought with the Taliban against
American and Northern Alliance forces in Afghanistan," writes Tietz.
"Before that, they had been living in Jalalabad with Osama bin Laden.
Omar spent much of his adolescence in al-Qaida compounds."

When Omar and his brothers were very young, their father told them,
"If you love me, pray that I will get martyred." To bring honor to the
family, the father, rather than blowing himself to smithereens, asked
Omar's older brother Abduraham to be a suicide bomber.

After Abduraham refused, his father, suspecting a weakening of faith,
told him, "If you ever betray Islam, I will be the one to kill you."

What the aforementioned young people could use is some major
deprogramming. For starters, the suicide-promoting poetry in their
curriculum could be replaced with some Ayn Rand, the perfect antidote
for self-immolation.

In For the New Intellectual, Rand warns against "death-worshipping
mystics" who control and humiliate through the use of guilt and fear,
preaching that a man's pursuit of happiness here on earth is evidence
of depravity and selfishness, that his independent mind is a source of
arrogance, his body a source of evil, that his liberty, self-esteem
and individuality are desecrations of the commandments for obedience,
humility, suffering, renunciation and self-sacrifice.

"There is no way to make a human being accept the role of a
sacrificial animal," writes Rand, "except by destroying his
self-esteem."

Topaz

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>>>The signs of His coming are coming fast
>>
>> You will be saying the same thing ten years from now, and also in
>> fifty years if you live that long.
>
>I should be gone

>There are other signs

Name them

>
>It's Islamo-fascists (much like Liberalism) aim to steal the inheritance
>promised by God to His faithful America and Israle defends against.


Israel Line - Friday, June 10, 2005

Thousands Participate in Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv.

Thousands of people took to the streets of Tel Aviv this
afternoon to participate in the city's annual gay pride parade,
HA'ARETZ reported. The parade set out from Rabin Square and was to end
in Yarkon Park, where musical performances were planned.

MKs Yosef Lapid (Shinui), Eitan Cabel (Labor) and Zehava Gal-On
(Yahad), as well as Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai, were set to speak at
the event.

The chairman of the national Association of Gay Men, Lesbians,
Bisexuals and Transgender in Israel, Mike Hamel, said today the parade
was organized with the "close cooperation" of the Tel Aviv
municipality. "It's great to see it, and great that it's one of the
few places in the world that has the support of a municipal body, a
government body," he said.

Hamel said the event is called a "pride parade," because it has
to do with "being proud of the way we are and the demand to accept
every person as a person, as he is, and not trying to change him."

Full story:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/586950.html

By 1992, lesbian and gay activists had succeeded in getting the
Knesset to amend Israel's Equal Workplace Opportunities Law to outlaw
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
In 1993, the Israeli military rescinded its few regulations
discriminating against gays and lesbians. And in 1994, the Israeli
Supreme Court ordered El Al Israel Airlines to grant a free plane
ticket to the partner of a gay flight attendant, as the airline had
long done for heterosexual partners of employees.
http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/020220_gay_israel_history.html

>
>No, as the Master of the field He separates the harvest from the chafe,
>takes his harvest that's seed has fallen onto fertle soil, leaving the chafe
>to fly away in the wind. Leaving chaos Liberalism to fend for its self after
>the bridegroom has removed His bride, the church from the Tribulation that
>we're just now feeling its birthing pains.


Jewish Leaders in the Homosexual Movement

Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist
organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis

Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer
Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for
the Gay & LesbianAlliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-
founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against
Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the
largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer
political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San
Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay
activist.

Moises Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now
known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of
the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional
organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the
US. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning
discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning
playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees
group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee
of GLAAD.

Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist
journalist, writer."

Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and
Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate
[1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly
comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."

Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association
[NLGJA] national board member.

Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn
the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an
illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany;
founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific
Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi
Germany.

Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business
Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors.
Mitchell Gold -- HRC Board
Marty Lieberman -- HRC Board
Andy Linsky -- HRC Board
Dana Perlman -- HRC Board
Abby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board
Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board
Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC
Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator
Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West
Sally Green -- HRC Associate Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] -- President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of
Washington, DC.

Barney Frank -- member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-
discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel -- executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task
Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural
Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and
Education Fund -- and -- the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn -- Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance
Against Defamation [GLAAD]
Nancy Alpert [?] -- Treasurer, GLAAD
Judy Gluckstern -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.
Stephen M. Jacoby -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.
Matt Riklin -- Board, GLAAD
Carol Rosenfeld -- Board, GLAAD.
William Weinberger -- Board, GLAAD
Tanya Wexler -- Board, GLAAD.
David Huebner -- GLAAD Counsel.

Richard Goldstein -- Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler -- Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of
Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin -- Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill -- Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein -- Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin -- lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen -- a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund;
former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst -- long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs:
Marty Seldman, president

"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF].
Board co-chairs: ..... Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M
Dave Fleischer -- Director of Training [political training], NGLTF.
Craig Hoffman -- Board of Directors, NGLTF.
Beth Zemsky -- Board, NGLTF.
Marsha C. Botzer -- Treasurer, NGLTF.
Jeff Levi -- first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became
NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights
Project

Martin Duberman -- author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian
and Gay Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk
Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer
studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist
[one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian
rights organization].

Susan Spielman -- principal/head of Common Ground, an education/
consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation
education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations,
helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author
of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.

Gertrude Stein -- wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in
1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff -- founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman -- founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of
PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from
1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial
Network; president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin -- New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick -- GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler -- American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the
first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who
was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington
and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura"
campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and
operates a lesbian travel-tour company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist,
molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the
use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive
director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa
Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] -- co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons -- American professor, journalist, and founder of the
National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams -- American physician, HIV expert, medical
marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) -- [Canadian]; archivist of the International
Jewish GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official;
appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal
Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and
gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the
Reserves
when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian,
and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its
first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic
partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out
Day [October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to
serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS
Policy [ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice
President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that
launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the
Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
[GLAAD].

Surina Kahn -- American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler -- founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action
Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in
New England.

Kathy Levinson -- American investor and philanthropist; serves on the
board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light -- actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner -- gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the
Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of
wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics;
president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage -- American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What
Happened
After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards
Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in
America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager
of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay &
Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] -- founder and coordinator of the
Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York
chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] -- American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian
cable TV network.

Rex Wockner -- longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news
for the gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher -- became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine
[1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender
activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of
Arc to RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American
Man Boy Love Association


>>>1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
>>
>> So you are saying it is good for perilous times to come and that is
>> what you want.
>
>My hope is that I'll not be here for that.

Christians have said it is the "end times" for two thousand years so
far. They will still be saying it in another two thousand years.

>
>While stoning women who go out without the burka hiding all but the eyes and
>mercy killing daughters who show attention to a boy her father hasn't traded
>her for.

For one thing, if you invade Islam, you will be killing the women too.
I said I thought Islam was overly conservative, but that is better
than the liberal, feminist, Jewish controlled countries.


>> the course of some years, to advance more and more the interests of
>> the Italian people without paying any attention to the hissing of the
>> Jewish world-hydra.
>> "The English situation is not so favorable. In that country
>> which has 'the freest democracy' the Jew dictates his will, almost
>> unrestrained but indirectly, through his influence on public opinion."
>
>I have no comment on the above. I read about half of it. I have no way of
>confirming it without some investigation which I'll not do.
>

>I've heard that before but don't really care for it. God segregated the

>people, spread us to the four corners when the Tower of Babble was
>destroyed.


by William Scott

[This article illustrates the Jewish view on immigration,
namely that the only thing that matters is if immigration
helps Jews either directly by allowing more Jews to come
here or to weaken white Gentiles as a deliberate political
strategy. Now suddenly Muslim immigration is making Jews uneasy
and they're being forced to rethink their traditional
position of being fervent open borders advocates. This is
the Jewish mentality in action and why Jews can never be
trusted. They never cared about the destruction that massive
non-white immigration was causing America, only how it
affects Jews. As a matter of fact, the more non-whites the
better for them. This is clear from Glickman's comment."]

Community Questioning 'Open Door'
Debate Raging On Immigration
JEWISH FORWARD

"In a sharp break with the past, advocates of reduced
immigration have been invited in recent months to speak
before the General Assembly of United Jewish Communities as
well as to board members of the American Jewish Committee
and at an American Jewish Congress event. All three
institutions have historically been staunch advocates of
open immigration. 'The more diverse American society is the
safer [Jews] are," Glickman told the Forward."

<http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.11.29/news3.html>

RichTravsky

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> [...]

What religion do chimps have?

http://www.livescience.com/animals/chimpanzee-adoption-altruism-100126.html

Chimpanzees can be altruistic just like humans, according to a new study
that found 18 cases of orphaned chimps being adopted in the wild.

The kind-hearted chimp parents were discovered in the Ta� forest in the
West African country Ivory Coast. The adoptive caregivers, both male and
female, devoted large amounts of time and effort to protecting their
young charges, without any obvious gain to themselves.

"I don't know of any other cases of unrelated orphans being adopted,"
said research leader Christophe Boesch of the Max Planck Institute for
Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany. He said the young chimps had lost
their genetic parents to predation, injury and other causes.

Until now, some scientists have thought that altruism, or engaging in a
costly behavior to aid another without any benefit to oneself, was
strictly a human trait.
...

CB

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> RichTravsky wrote:
>> [...]
>> China Blue Oyster Cult wrote:
>> > > > Charity outside your family group was a christian invention.
>> > >
>> > > Charity does not need religion. Never has. Even apes are charitable.
>> >
>> > Yes, yes, Jane Goodall did describe those Ape Aid concerts.
>> >
>> > So what people first practiced charity outside their family group and
>> > what was
>> > their inspiration? You seem to be claiming that had nothing to do with
>> > religion,
>> > so I'm sure you can point out when it happened.
>>
>> Inspiration? Family ties.
>>
>> http://humanorigins.si.edu/ha/shanidar.html
>
> What religion do chimps have?

There's that relative moral equivalence between homo sapien and homos
thinking
--
CB
You of course are aware that your Leftwing Faggot Friend Gary Studds,
who took a minor boy child OUT OF THE COUNTRY on a government provided
aircraft to get him drunk and fuck him in the ass..was given a standing
ovation for his satutory rape of the boy..by the Democrat Congress..and
his voters reelected him another SIX terms in office, before he died of
AIDS complications.
--Gunner


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> In article <4b6437a0$0$5085$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,

> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B63B191...@hotmMOVEail.com...
>> > RichTravsky wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >> China Blue Oyster Cult wrote:
>> >> > > > Charity outside your family group was a christian invention.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Charity does not need religion. Never has. Even apes are
>> >> > > charitable.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, yes, Jane Goodall did describe those Ape Aid concerts.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what people first practiced charity outside their family group
>> >> > and
>> >> > what was
>> >> > their inspiration? You seem to be claiming that had nothing to do
>> >> > with
>> >> > religion,
>> >> > so I'm sure you can point out when it happened.
>> >>
>> >> Inspiration? Family ties.
>> >>
>> >> http://humanorigins.si.edu/ha/shanidar.html
>> >
>> > What religion do chimps have?
>>
>> There's that relative moral equivalence between homo sapien and homos
>> thinking
>
> Romans 2:1-4
>
> You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for
> at
> whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because
> you who
> pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against
> those
> who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere man, pass
> judgment on
> them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's
> judgment? Or
> do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and
> patience, not
> realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
>
> Or as Gozer asked, 'Are you a god?'

1 Timothy 1
Salutation
1:1 From Paul, 1 an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our
Savior 2 and of Christ Jesus our hope, 1:2 to Timothy, my genuine child in
the faith. Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our
Lord!

Timothy's Task in Ephesus
1:3 As I urged you when I was leaving for Macedonia, stay on in Ephesus 3
to instruct 4 certain people not to spread false teachings, 5 1:4 nor to
occupy themselves with myths and interminable genealogies. 6 Such things
promote useless speculations rather than God's redemptive plan 7 that
operates by faith. 1:5 But the aim of our instruction 8 is love that comes
from a pure heart, a good conscience, and a sincere faith. 9 1:6 Some have
strayed from these and turned away to empty discussion. 1:7 They want to be
teachers of the law, but they do not understand what they are saying or the
things they insist on so confidently. 10

1:8 But we know that the law is good if someone uses it legitimately, 1:9
realizing that law 11 is not intended for a righteous person, but for
lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy
and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
1:10 sexually immoral people, practicing homosexuals, 12 kidnappers, liars,
perjurers - in fact, for any who live contrary to sound teaching. 1:11 This
13 accords with the glorious gospel of the blessed God 14 that was
entrusted to me. 15


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> In article <4b644c89$0$31010$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> Sorry, kid, but this is not empty discussion. It's the heart of what you
> are
> supposed to learn.

1:5 But the aim of our instruction 8 is love that comes
from a pure heart, a good conscience, and a sincere faith.

...


1:6 Some have strayed from these and turned away to empty discussion.

...


1:9
realizing that law 11 is not intended for a righteous person, but for
lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy
and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,

1:10 sexually immoral people, practicing homosexuals...


--
CB
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Obama

What the Hell does Obama think Islamo-fascism is all about?

What the Hell does Obama think Jeremiah Wright's church 'is' all about?


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Salute To Our Muslim Martyrs
Musil Shehadeh

As a Christian Palestinian, I cannot but bow my head in full reverence
and admiration to our Muslim brothers who are teaching the Israelis
and the world the real meaning of self-sacrifice in the face of cruel
occupation. You can call them what you want but you cannot deny them
the pinnacle of courage when they offer their own lives at the altar
of freedom, not only for their own religious order but also for all of
us. No power, be it the Israeli rocket, its F-16s, its tanks, or its
nuclear weapons, can stand as a deterrent against such culmination of
human sacrifice.
Such martyrdom has created a new chapter in the history of human
resistance against occupation that has never been emulated in the
history of humanity except for the Japanese kamikaze in the Second
World War. Instead of having the world study the psychological motives
behind such courageous acts, they are dismissed na�vely by Israel and
its U.S. prot�g� as simple acts of "terrorism"! Really! Those who
sacrifice their lives for freedom are "terrorists," while those who
massacre people to keep them under the chains of bondage are engaged
in philanthropic acts? Using such bizarre criterion, it would place
George Washington, Joan of Arc and Martin Luther King as "terrorists"
while Genghis Khan, Attilla the Hun and Sharon as the heads of
charitable organizations.
Even those who criticize such heroic acts cannot deny that those young
men and women, who strap themselves with explosives and sacrifice
their lives, fully realize that there are other options for the
future. They could have chosen to get married and to have children, or
to seek profitable employment and to enjoy the many pleasures of life.
They could have followed their instincts to continue living without
bringing grief and misery to their loved ones. Yet when they kill
themselves and deny themselves the pleasure of living, then there has
to exist a very good cause that prompts them to commit such acts of
self-destruction. As one of the bereaved mothers explained: life
without freedom had no value in the eyes of her beloved martyr-son.
They have chosen to die so that they would fight a cruel occupier to
liberate their lands, to reject life without dignity, while creating
life with freedom for others. Western teaching institutions would rush
into explaining how frustration in life could drive people into acting
violently, yet they tend to swallow with great relish the Zionist
versions when explaining the violent nature of these acts...
For those of us who are still advocating "give peace a chance," we
should not forget that Mr. Sharon's war is not against "terrorism," as
he would like us to believe, but rather an aggressive war to occupy
our homes and land turning us into slaves in our own homes. His
enemies are not those who carry the gun, but anyone who would stand in
his way to expropriate more lands from the Palestinians. How else can
one explain his closure of the Palestinian profile office in Jerusalem
headed by Dr. Sari Nuseibeh? A super moderate Palestinian whose call
for the existence of the two States, meeting all of Israeli demands
for peace and security along the 1967 borders, could not be matched.
Yet he was not spared the wrath of Sharon because he dared to demand
the right of Palestinians for their own mini-State?
It should be obvious to all of us that Sharon cannot understand any
language except the language of force, as no moderate or peace-loving
advocate can survive the war imposed upon us by those who are working
hard to deny us our rights. It should behoove all of us to support our
martyrs and their families, as these are the real heroes of our
dignified and legitimate struggle for freedom in our homeland.
http://www.palestinetimes.net/issue134/articles.html#9

Jack From Waaaaaayyyyy Back

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wrote:

MUSLIME TARGET CHRISTIAN IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES

CB

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> In article <4b647326$0$30940$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,

> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> 1:6 Some have strayed from these and turned away to empty discussion.
>
> Yes, you have strayed.

CB

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> here@yomomma. (Obie Won Scumbagoni) wrote in news:4b5ee693.1047968
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> A lotta harm has been done in the name of religion, Akmed.
>>
>> On the other hand, a lotta inappropriate hate has been foisted upon
>> the concept of religion.
>
>
> The "concept of religion" is as practical as the concept
> of the Great Pumpkin or the Tooth Fairy.

...but faith in Jesus as Savior is not a religion, it's the Truth, the Light
and the Word

Religion is for unbelieving pinheads pretending to be enlightened by
overview, not to dirty them selves by true wisdom

RichTravsky

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CB wrote:
>
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> news:4B63B191...@hotmMOVEail.com...
> > RichTravsky wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> China Blue Oyster Cult wrote:
> >> > > > Charity outside your family group was a christian invention.
> >> > >
> >> > > Charity does not need religion. Never has. Even apes are charitable.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, yes, Jane Goodall did describe those Ape Aid concerts.
> >> >
> >> > So what people first practiced charity outside their family group and
> >> > what was
> >> > their inspiration? You seem to be claiming that had nothing to do with
> >> > religion,
> >> > so I'm sure you can point out when it happened.
> >>
> >> Inspiration? Family ties.
> >>
> >> http://humanorigins.si.edu/ha/shanidar.html
> >
> > What religion do chimps have?
>
> There's that relative moral equivalence between homo sapien and homos
> thinking

There's that superstitious ignorance of a religious retard. Still think
Satan controls the weather?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200007/my-best-friend-is-chimp?page=3

Washoe has astutely reacted to the feelings of others as well. One of our
longtime volunteers, Kat Beach, became pregnant in the summer of 1982, and
Washoe was fascinated with her swelling belly, often asking her about her
"BABY". (Washoe understood what babies were and where they came from, since
she has been pregnant twice and lost both offspring--one to a congenital
heart defect, one to a respiratory illness. She showed signs of depression e
ach time. She also seems to know what the parent-child relationship involves.
My wife Debbi and I thought we had Washoe fooled about our relationship
until one day we asked her who she thought our 5-year-old daughter Hillary
was. Washoe signed "ROGER DEBBI BABY", leaving no doubt about Hillary's
identity and her relationship to us.)

Unfortunately, Kat eventually miscarried, and couldn't visit the chimpanzees for
several weeks. One facet of Washoe's personality is that she has extremely high
expectations of her friends. People who should be there for her and aren't are often
later given the cold shoulder her way of informing them that she's miffed at them.
Washoe greeted Kat in just this way when she finally returned to work with the
chimps. Kat made her apologies to Washoe, then decided to tell her the truth,
signing "MY BABY DIED." Washoe stared at her, then looked down. She finally peered
into Kat's eyes again and carefully signed "CRY," touching her cheek and drawing her
finger down the path a tear would make on a human. (Chimpanzees don't shed tears.)
Kat later remarked that that one sign told her more about Washoe and her mental
capabilities than all her longer, more grammatically perfect sentences. When Kat
prepared to leave that day, Washoe did not want her to go without some emotional
support. She signed "PLEASE PERSON HUG."
...

CB

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Touching


Topaz

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"The Judeo-Christian Death Cult - Why Bush, Cheney, Hagee, Dobson,
Robertson, and other Neocons Approve Torture, Genocide and Human
Sacrifice on Behalf of God's "Chosen People:" Texe Marrs examines the
startling collapse of traditional Christianity as its leaders replace
Jesus with Israel as their central focus. The Great Commission is no
longer to preach Jesus and the Cross, but to exalt the Jews and defend
Israel. In pursuit of this radical new objective, Christian leaders
endorse Israel's murder and oppression of Palestinians, Lebanese, and
other supposed "enemies." Moreover, whatever it takes - torture, lies,
gulags, or genocide - all are encouraged if Israel's political goals
are advanced. Evangelical Christianity is being rapidly transformed
into a global Death Cult."
Howard Duck

Jack From Waaaaaayyyyy Back

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MUSLIME WIPING OUT ALGERIAN WOMEN, CHILDREN, WHOLE FAMILIES

Iron in the Soul
Al-Qaeda unleashes a wave of violence in North Africa
Few countries have suffered as much from terrorism as Algeria. For
more than a decade after the aborted elections in 1992 Islamist
extremists waged a bloodthirsty war against the state, targeting
women, children, market places and even whole villages. Families were
rounded up and had their throats slit. People were burnt alive in
their homes. The Islamic Salvation Front and Armed Islamic Groups
(GIA) used extreme brutality to drive out foreigners, intimidate the
population and virtually close down normal life in the cities. In all,
about 200,000 people were killed, as the shadowy military authorities
answered the attacks with bloody reprisals and a crackdown on civil
liberties.

Only in the past three or four years has Algeria begun to emerge from
the violence that engulfed what was once one of Africa�s most
industrialised and developed economies. The bombs that killed 30
people in the capital yesterday have raised, therefore, immediate
fears across the region that the terrorists, now openly affiliated
with al-Qaeda, are preparing to mount a deadly campaign across North
Africa. The virus of Islamist extremism is far from defeated.

There have been plenty of warning signs in recent months. In January
the main terrorist organisation, the Salafist Group for Preaching and
Combat, changed its name and deepened its ties to al-Qaeda. Since then
it has claimed responsibility for a new wave of attacks targeting the
security forces and foreigners. Meanwhile, the Army has stepped up
operations against insurgents in the mountains east of Algiers. Five
days ago nine soldiers and at least six Islamist militants were killed
when a military convoy was ambushed west of the capital. Nor is
Algeria alone in struggling to contain terrorism. Tunisia faces a
similar challenge from Islamist groups, and in Morocco yesterday
police were hunting ten possible suicide bombers in Casablanca, a day
after three suspected militants blew themselves up as the police
closed in. All were wanted in connection with the bombing of an
internet caf� last month.

The Maghreb is fertile ground for extremists posing as devout Muslims.
Burgeoning populations, high unemployment, inefficient but repressive
governments and a lack of press and civic freedoms have all fuelled
popular frustration. The region is rich in oil and gas resources, has
a fertile littoral and enormous tourist potential. But poverty is
widespread, education levels are low and economic development has been
stultified by bureaucracy and corruption. Opposition has been driven
underground and, as in 1992 when the Algerian military staged a putsch
to prevent Islamic groups assuming power, religious extremists have
gained influence.


North Africa is an obvious haven for al-Qaeda, under pressure in the
Middle East, where governments have targeted its leadership. The
Maghreb is also close to Western Europe. Extremists have been able to
set up cells among the large numbers who have migrated, often
illegally, to Spain, France and Italy. France, with strong historical
ties to its former colony, has been shocked by the renewed violence:
the threat to its own security was underlined this week by the
announcement than an Algerian will stand trial later this year for
alleged complicity in the 1995 Paris m�tro bombings. As Britain has
found, to its cost, Algerian terrorists have been active across
Western Europe. We are vulnerable to their attacks and must be both
vigilant and very supportive of the people of North Africa.


Topaz

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NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS
From: libb...@hotmail.com <mailto:libb...@hotmail.com> (libby)
Date: 9/4/02 6:46 PM Pacific Daylight

Sept.04/2002

It's important for the American people to know that all those
'American' journalists/talking heads that they see and read in the
Zionist controlled print and electronic mass media are not working for
America's interests. The very fact that they appear on CNN or write
for the Washington Post, for example, conveys the impression in the
minds of Americans that these 'journalists' are loyal Americans who
have America's best interests at heart. They are, in fact, leading
players in a huge deception and manipulation of the American people
that when attached to a cause such as, 'support of Israel', or
'attacking Iraq', is unrelenting in it's intensity and scope...

Fact is, they are part of the same ruling elites of mostly Zionists
who by now have a virtual stranglehold on power in America.
And even as I write this, there on CNN's TALKBACK LIVE is Daniel Pipes
of Middle East Forum, propagandizing in favor of a unilateral military
attack on a sovereign nation, Iraq. An act that if committed by any
country other than America, would be considered a war crime and
justification for America to go to war against the invading country.
The following is an excerpt from the foreword to Aldous Huxley's BRAVE
NEW WORLD.
=============
begin excerpt
=============
The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by
doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is the truth, but
still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.
By simply not mentioning certain subjects, by lowering what Mr.
Churchill calls an 'iron curtain' between the masses and such facts or
arguments as the local political bosses regard as undesirable,
totalitarian propagandists have influenced [public] opinion much more
effectively than they could have done by the most eloquent
denunciations, the most compelling of logical rebuttals.
===========
end excerpt
===========
In plain English, propagandists don't necessarily need to lie to the
mass audience to control them. By not disclosing critical
facts/information, they ensure that no debate will ever take place on
these critical issues. This omitting of critical facts/information is
one of the very tactics used by CNN and the rest of the Zionist mass
media in America. There are many examples of this tactic and one that
comes to mind is the issue of Israel's weapons of mass
destruction(WMD's). The Zionist mass media in America does not discuss
this at all. They do not want public debate on this issue. One of the
reasons being, of course, that America's great 'ally' Israel stole
it's nuclear weapons program from America. Another issue that the
Zionists keep hidden from Americans is the $3,000,000,000 that goes to
Israel each year, payback from the 'Congress of traitors', no doubt,
for Zionist/Jewish election funding.

So Dear Americans: The next time you see/hear/read the 'work' of the
Zionist 'journalists', Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Blitzer, Kagan
Zahn, Gaffney, Schneider, Limbaugh, Pipes, Kaplan, Lipsky, Zuckerman,
Goldberg and all the others, be aware that they and their bosses are
Zionists and their purpose is to serve the interests of
Zionism/Israel, AND NOT AMERICA. Take everything they say with a grain
of salt and a pound of critique.
=== =====
Roy Libby
=== =====
Truth and disclosure are a deceiver's greatest fears.

ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE
IN AMERICA

Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of
radical Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we
return to the five dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories.
Even the Zionists themselves have never denied that they have long
exerted great influence in America. But what we must understand is
that the Zionists do not merely influence United States policy....they
dominate it! It is this domination that enables them to pull off
monstrous crimes and then conceal them from the general public.

The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government,
academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and
is easily verifiable by public information.

Henry Ford said this:

"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered
to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and
"investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the
disobedient.
Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but
even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that
compromise him. It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of
American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no
matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient
amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed
to discredit him." 33

Charles Lindbergh said this:

"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership
and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our
government. 34


Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under
Ronald Reagan said this:

"I've never seen a President-I don't care who he is-stand up to them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they
want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American
people understood what a grip those people have got on our government,
they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea
what goes on."
35

While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator
and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before
a national television audience:

"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned
about the United States' interests." 36

Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate
Patrick Buchanan said:

"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37


And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once
had the following exchange, which was caught on tape:

GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or
this country's going down the drain". NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir." NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but
I do believe it" 38

But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist
control.

FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time
Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and
countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a
Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media
conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you ever noticed how
Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and Arabs as a bigoted
fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!

FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared
lobby in Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of
unseating Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their
requests. The majority of Congressmen from both political parties
receive large donations from AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine,
journalist Michael Massing explains:

"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in
Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds
of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the
New York Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very
intimidating," said a correspondent at another large daily. "The
pressure from these groups is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53>

FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named
Richard Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more
control over the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or
the generals and admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who
serve on the board (Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as
non-jewish members who have always supported Israel and the expansion
of the "War on Terror". The notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed
the "The Prince of Darkness", is Chairman of the Board. 41

With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul
Wolfowitz as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner
Douglass Feith as Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist
Pentagon gang controls 3 of the top 4 civilian leadership positions of
America's armed forces. Careerist scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and
Donald Rumsfeld are either under their influence or unwilling to
oppose their drive for WW III. The Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang
represent a fanatical and warmongering
"government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist
Pentagon conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004
Presidential candidate, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his
Gentile partner in crime Senator
John McCain (R-AZ).

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>

An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments
that his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:

" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House
and Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York
Times, the lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their
blood does not count as much as our blood. We believe with absolute
certitude that now, when we have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar]
Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation League, , we truly have the right to
tell 400,000 people that in eight hours they must flee from their
homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on their villages and
towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill without any
guilt." 42 (emphasis added)

And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such
awesome power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so
many of America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk
about this issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton
would grovel before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous
as the following statement:

"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across
the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and
fight and die." 43

I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I
want to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?

Subject: THE ZIONIST WHORE
From: "Rasputin" a.se...@worldnet.att.net
<mailto:a.se...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 9/1/02 8:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:
<edBc9.46977$Ke2.3...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
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AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S WHORE

We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then
they used and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was
clear that the chief remaining global power was the United States. Now
the USA had never had any problem with the Arab people, and had no
reason to quarrel with the Arabs.
For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were
receiving from America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and
the mighty US could somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists
possibly stoop so low? Why not? Look at what they had already pulled
off! Remember that the official motto
of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of
deception thou shalt do war." 26

In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for
the world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were
caught staging a series of bombings against American installations in
Egypt. 27 When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such
a controversy that it brought down the Israeli government. The long
since forgotten scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".

Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and
fighter jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US
communications ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and
170 others injured in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in
broad daylight and with the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent
was to kill all of the Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take
the blame. Israel denied that the attack was deliberate but the
chilling stories of the lucky American survivors clearly contradicts
that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress has never investigated
the USS Liberty massacre.

In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in
order to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky
became so disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government
that he defected from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how
evil and dangerous
they were. Ostrosvky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya
for the bombing of a German night club which killed American
servicemen. 29 It was this frame up job that caused President Reagan
to bomb Libya, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar
Qadaffi. France refused to allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis.
Among some of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the
Mossad often uses Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli
agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to
turn American public opinion against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists
in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions.
Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous
death threats. 30

In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research
paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS).
The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to
predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain
peace between the Israel and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:

"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in
both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to
accomplish mission" 31

Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:

"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces
and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act." 32 (emphasis added)


Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away
billons of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military
violates international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering
US troops in order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?

Subject: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
From: xdange...@aol.com <mailto:xdange...@aol.com>
(XDangerousDNA)
Date: 9/20/02 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020920193931...@mb-mc.aol.com
<mailto:20020920193931...@mb-mc.aol.com>>

LaRouche Says: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
Statement by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. September 18, 2002

Sept. 18 - I am warning President George W. Bush and European leaders:
If weapons inspectors return to Iraq and an otherwise-certain
Iraq-centered new Middle East war by the U.S. is thus averted, the
governments of the United States and Western Europe must be prepared
to forcefully intervene, to prevent an increasingly more desperate and
psychotic Ariel Sharon's nuclear-armed regime in Israel, the world's
third-ranking strategic nuclear-weapons power, from blowing up the
entire Middle East region, and beyond, with those weapons!

Therefore, I issued the following statement on behalf of my 2004
candidacy for the Democratic Presidential nomination.

At an international web cast, before a live audience in Washington on
Sept. 11, 2002, I identified three hurdles that had to be overcome to
avert an Iraq war that would trigger a perpetual "Clash of
Civilizations" religious conflict and a New Dark Age: First, the
United Nations Security Council had to become the venue for dealing
with the Iraq situation, and a reasonable resolution had to be
drafted, that would be agreed to by President Bush, overriding the
Sharon-influenced "war party" within his own Administration's senior
ranks. Second, the resolution had to be accepted by Iraq's Saddam
Hussein, as well as by President Bush. With those two conditions met,
LaRouche warned, the gravest, remaining danger to overcome would be a
berserker move by Sharon in Israel to sabotage the peaceful resolution
and blow up the region.

It was the threat of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iraq in 1991 that
blackmailed the first Bush Administration into launching Operation
Desert Storm. Today's Israel, under the insane Sharon regime, is the
only nation on Earth that genuinely fits the profile of a "rogue
state" armed to the teeth with "weapons of mass destruction." Israel
has the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal on Earth, and a triad of
submarine, missile, and bomber delivery systems, capable of
obliterating the entire Persian Gulf. Israeli scientists have recently
threatened that they now have the capability of launching an
intercontinental ballistic missile, meaning that no place on
Earth-including the United States-is exempt from an Israeli
preemptive nuclear attack. LaRouche asks you: Do you dare dismiss this
threat from Sharon?...

Since the 1956 attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, until
the 1989-1991 break-up of Soviet power, Israel's access to nuclear
weapons had made it the third "tilt" power in the global strategic
equation.

Already in 1956, it took an experienced military man, President Dwight
Eisenhower, to force Israel to back down from the Suez invasion, after
both Britain and France had withdrawn under American pressure.
Eisenhower not only threatened to cut off all U.S. military and
civilian aid to Israel; he also threatened to remove the tax-exempt
status of all American organizations that provided aid to Israel. An
even more resolute action will now be required from a far-less
qualified President George W. Bush, to stop Sharon from carrying out
either a false-flag "Islamist" terrorist attack against an American
target, or a nuclear attack on Iraq or Iran. This is deadly serious
stuff, and your personal involvement in the effort to stop it is
vital.

Are you prepared to have the Sharon regime in Israel once again
blackmail an American President into starting a war in the Persian
Gulf, out of fear of an Israeli weapons of mass destruction attack on
Baghdad? Do you have any idea what the consequences will be for the
U.S. and world economy, if a new Persian Gulf War, costing American
taxpayers between $2-3 trillion, is launched today, under the current
conditions of a collapsing U.S. economy and a thoroughly bankrupt
world financial system?

I warned that the toleration for the swamp of Sharon agents inside the
Bush Administration, is another grave impediment to the President
taking the urgently required action, in concert with our European
allies and Russia, to stop Sharon from provoking this perpetual war.
In a recent mass-circulation LaRouche in 2004 release, "The Pollard
Affair Never Ended," I named the names of the leading Sharonists
inside the Bush Pentagon and State Department-Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle, Doug Feith, David Wurmser-some of whom literally prepared the
foreign policy doctrine of perpetual war for then-Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. These Netanyahu-Sharon Likud
moles inside the Bush foreign policy and national security
establishment are still suspected, now with more and more evidence of
involvement with the convicted Israeli spy, the American-born Jonathan
Pollard.

Since the release and circulation of a million copies of the "Pollard
Affair Never Ended" campaign document, new, even more damning evidence
has surfaced. Therefore, I must intensify my demand for a thorough
national security investigation into key staffers in the Office of
Vice President Dick Cheney, beginning with his chief of staff and
national security advisor, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Libby, a prot�g� of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz for the
past 30 years, has assembled a "shadow national security council" in
the Vice President's Office, which has protected the Israeli agents
nest inside the Pentagon and State Department-and blocked an urgently
needed purge of these Likudniks. Libby has his own longstanding deep
ties to the Sharon circles, including to the Pollard spy ring.

While out of government, Libby served between 1985-2000 as the
personal attorney for fugitive swindler Marc Rich. Rich was indicted
by the U.S. Justice Department in 1983 for tax evasion and for trading
with the enemy, and he fled the United States, establishing a
luxurious hide-away in Zug, Switzerland.

Today, according to Israeli sources, Rich is under investigation, for
illegal contributions to Ariel Sharon's last political campaign. He
has been involved in Russian Mafia operations in Africa, and, through
his Marc Rich Foundation in Israel, has openly financed international
operations of the Israeli Mossad. Libby's law partner and mentor,
Leonard Garment, was a pivotal player in the Israeli government's
damage control effort, following the Pollard arrest in November 1985,
and he served as the attorney for Israeli Air Force Col. Aviem Sella,
the man who recruited and deployed Jonathan Pollard.

Now, Ariel Sharon's regime is Hell-bent on provoking a regional war in
the Middle East, a war pivoted on an Israeli pre-emptive attack on
Iraq. The threat is that, if President Bush does not virtually
exterminate Iraq, and neighboring countries, too, Israel will. This
means the likely use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. All
the while, Sharon's Washington moles are operating under the shadows
of the Vice President and the Secretary of Defense of the United
States. If Sharon is to be stopped from launching World War III in the
Middle East, this entire Pollard stay-behind apparatus must be
thoroughly investigated, exposed, and removed from government-now! It
is time for these Israeli agents and spies to be kicked out of
government, and the Israeli government to desist from its nuclear
blackmail. I demand it. I can not believe that any sane and patriotic
American would not back me up "100%" on this specific issue.

Support me actively on this issue. If you are serious about the
security of our nation and its people, I should be able to count on
you.

<http://www.larouchein2004.net/pages/pressreleases/2002/020918isrblackmail>_
prt.htm

the following is the Israeli black propaganda article:

<http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html>

Israel is the third largest arms dealer in the world. They have
violated hundreds of UN resolutions and they constitute a threat to
the entire Middle East, having occupied three countries, Syria
(www.ussliberty.org <http://www.ussliberty.org>) Lebanon, and
Palestine.

So, why not bomb Israel?

<http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=334318>

ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW THE ABOVE ARTICLE BY FISK IS THE ONLY
PRESS/MEDIA THAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR THAT MENTIONED THAT RITTER WAS
MAKING REGULAR TRIPS TO ISRAEL TO BRIEF THE ISRAELIS AS TO WHAT HE WAS
DOING WITH THE UNSCOM WEAPONS INSPECTIONS TEAMS IN IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE
UNDER THE DIRECTION OF RICHARD BUTLER. NO WONDER IRAQ WANTED THEM OUT
BACK IN 1998 AS I CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND SUCH (ESPECIALLY AFTER ISRAEL
HAD VIOLATED IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY WITH THE EARLIER BOMBING OF THE NUCLEAR
REACTOR).

I HOPE SUCH SPYING DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IF PEACE IS GIVEN A CHANCE BY
aLLOWING WEAPONS INSPECTORS BACK INTO IRAQ... HOWEVER, I THINK THE
ONLY WAY TO PREVENT A US ZIONIST-DRIVEN INVASION WOULD BE TO FLOOD
BAHGDAD WITH US AND EUROPEAN PEACE ACTIVISTS... IRAQ COULD PUT THEM UP
FOR A YEAR TO LEARN ARABIC OR SIMILAR.

OUR BIASED PRO-ISRAEL MEDIA ONLY SOMETIMES MENTIONS SPYING BUT NOT
THAT IT WAS ISRAELI SPYING VIA UNSCOM... THE BRITISH PRESS/MEDIA
PROVIDES MUCH BETTER
COVERAGE...

Subject: ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS AS WELL MANY
AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP TO ISRAELI TREACHERY LIKE WITH THE USS LIBERTY
ATTACK IN WHICH ISRAEL MURDERED 34 SAILORS AND WOUNDED 171 MORE JUST
TO STEAL EVEN MORE LAND IN THE GOLAN IN SYRIA:

<http://www.ussliberty.org>

israel should be made to accept UN weapons inspections as well FOR ITS
NUKES AND CHEMICAL/BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS:..


Not In Our Name... <http://www.nion.us/> Petition against a war with
Iraq.

<http://www.itsforums.co.uk/zone0/viewforum.php?f=10>

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=668>

<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=643>

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WINSTON CHURCHILL DISCUSSED MUSLIME

http://www.islam-watch.org/AdrianMorgan/Winston-Churchill-Islamism.htm

Winston Churchill On Islamism
by Adrian Morgan

Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill was born in Blenheim Palace in
Woodstock, Oxfordshire, on November 30, 1874. His father Randolph was
a Conservative politician and descendant of the first Duke of
Marlborough, who would die of syphilis in 1892. Winston Churchill's
mother Jennie (1854 - 1921) was a flirtatious American socialite,
daughter of Leonard Jerome (Jacobson), who owned the New York Times.
In May, 1940, Churchill became British prime minister until the end of
World War II, and he led Britain again from 1951 to 1955. By the time
Winston Churchill died after a stroke on January 24, 1965, he had
become one of the pre-eminent figuresof the 20th century. He had been
awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1953.

The British leaders who have followed Churchill (with the exception,
perhaps, of Margaret Thatcher) have shown little of his independence
of spirit, or individualism. Five years ago, Churchill was voted the
greatest Briton of all time in a BBC poll. Those who claim to support
Churchill think mainly of his role as a statesman, and as a warrior in
the battle against Hitler and fascism.

In today's politically correct Britain, few people are prepared
openly to criticize Islamism. A collective cowardice afflicts the
chattering classes. Too fearful of the stigma of being labeled
"Islamophobe", leaders and media figures would rather buy into the
lies of Muslim victimization than objectively analyze the threat that
global radical Islam poses to democracy. Few are aware of Churchill's
comments on Islam, and fewer still would dare repeat those words in
public today.

Churchill was born into privilege but he gained first-hand knowledge
of Islam in the army. He joined the Fourth Hussars in 1895, and was
posted in the North-West Frontier of India (now Pakistan), bordering
Afghanistan. During this time, he became a war correspondent, working
with full approval of Sir Bindon Blood, chief staff officer of the
Chitral relief force. Originally, Churchill's reports were sent
anonymously by telegram and letter to the Pioneer Mail. Eventually he
was writing for the London Daily Telegraph under his own name. The
first of these reports was published on October 6, 1897. He was paid
five pounds per article.

He wrote of his experiences in the borderlands with Afghanistan in a
book titled The Story of the Malakand Field Force. This book detailed
not only the conflict of the region, but also its cultural and
military history, with notes on natural history. When his mother
informed him in late 1897 that Longmans had agreed to publish this
tome, he noted: that "the publication of this book will certainly be
the most noteworthy act of my life. Up to date (of course). By its
reception I shall measure the chances of my possible success in the
world." The book appeared the following year.

In this book, when describing a local imam, Churchill coined the term
"Mad Mullah". Speaking of the Pathan and Beluchi tribesmen of the
border regions, he noted with some sarcasm that "the Mullah will raise
his voice and remind them of other days when the sons of the prophet
drove the infidel from the plains of India, and ruled at Delhi, as
wide an Empire as the Kafir holds to-day: when the true religion
strode proudly through the earth and scorned to lie hidden and
neglected among the hills: when mighty princes ruled in Bagdad, and
all men knew that there was one God, and Mahomet was His prophet. And
the young men hearing these things will grip their Martinis, and pray
to Allah, that one day He will bring some Sahib (prince) - best prize
of all - across their line of sight at seven hundred yards so that, at
least, they may strike a blow for insulted and threatened Islam."

Churchill wrote: "Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however
degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a
modifying influence on men's passions, and protect them from the more
violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by
vaccination. But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of
lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by
the sword, and ever since, its votaries have been subject, above the
people of all other creeds, to this form of madness."

After 9/11, George W. Bush famously described Islam as a "religion of
peace". Churchill entertained no such fancy notions. In his history of
the Malakand Field Force, Churchill wrote that "civilisation is
confronted with militant Mahommedanism. The forces of progress clash
with those of reaction. The religion of blood and war is face to face
with that of peace. Luckily the religion of peace is usually the
better armed."

By the time his first book was published, Churchill had taken part in
active service, fighting in Bangalore. He joined Lord Kitchener's army
in the Sudan, and took part in the Battle of Omdurman on September 2,
1898. This battle took place in what is now a suburb of Khartoum, and
pitted British troops against 50,000 belonging to a local warlord,
Abdullah al-Taashi. This man called himself the Khalifa or "Caliph",
and was the successor of Muhammad Ahmad. Ahmad had been the
self-styled "Mahdi" (Muslim Messiah) who had beheaded General Gordon
at Khartoum in 1885. The war in Sudan was a religious war. The region
had been exploited by the Egyptians from 1819 to 1883. Originally the
"Mahdi" had waged war against Muslim Egypt but, irritated by the
presence of 150 British troops in Sudan, he soon declared Jihad (Holy
War) against all Christians. The Mahdi himself had died of typhus in
1885. The Battle of Omdurman was not the last decisive battle in this
war, but it signaled the last time a cavalry charge was mounted by
British troops.

Churchill wrote of the Mahdi's jihad, the succession of the Khalifa
and Omdurman in a two-volume book published by Longmans in 1899.
Entitled "The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of Sudan",
Churchill wrote on pages 248-250 of the second volume: ""How dreadful
are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the
fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a
dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits,
slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and
insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet
rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace
and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in
Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute
property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the
final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be
a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the
brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the
influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those
who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far
from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising
faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is
sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it
had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall,
as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

This contentious passage became abridged in a shorter version
published in 1902. However, the abridged version still contained some
harsh words for the fanaticism of Islam. In Chapter One, Churchill
wrote: "Fanaticism is not a cause of war. It is the means which helps
savage peoples to fight. It is the spirit which enables them to
combine - the great common object before which all personal or tribal
disputes become insignificant. What the horn is to the rhinoceros,
what the sting is to the wasp, the Mohammedan faith was to the Arabs
of the Soudan - a faculty of offence or defence."

In Chapter Two, Churchill stated: "All the warlike operations of
Mohammedan peoples are characterised by fanaticism" and in its third
chapter he observed: "After the fall of Khartoum and the retreat of
the British armies the Mahdi became the absolute master of the Soudan.
Whatever pleasures he desired he could command, and, following the
example of the founder of the Mohammedan faith, he indulged in what
would seem to Western minds gross excesses. He established an
extensive harem for his own peculiar use, and immured therein the
fairest captives of the war."

Churchill entered politics in the same year that "The River War" was
originally published. As his eponymous grandson pointed out last
March, Churchill noted the threat of Wahhabism on June 14, 1921 at the
House of Commons. His grandson stated in an address to the Locke
Foundation that this speech "followed "hard on the heels of the Cairo
Conference, at which he had presided over the re-shaping of the Middle
East". This was the March 1921 Cairo Conference, rather than the
better known Cairo Conferences of 1943.

At that time, Churchill was secretary for the British colonies, and
he had been involved in the creation of Iraq (in 1921), Jordan
(Transjordan) and Palestine. The intention, he told the Commons, was
"to set up an Arab government, and to make it take the responsibility,
with our aid and our guidance and with an effective measure of our
support, until they are strong enough to stand alone ... (and) to
reduce our commitments and to extricate ourselves from our burdens
while at the same time honorably discharging our obligations and
building up strong and effective Arab government which will always be
the friend of Britain.

What is less well known is that he also said on that day: "A large
number of Bin Saud's followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relationship to
orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvinism would have borne
to Rome in the fiercest times of [Europe's] religious wars.

The Wahhabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they
practice themselves they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as
an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share
their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women
have been put to death in Wahhabi villages for simply appearing in the
streets.

It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed
for smoking a cigarette and, as for the crime of alcohol, the most
energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far
behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and blood-thirsty, in
their own regions the Wahhabis are a distinct factor which must be
taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous
to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

The Bin Saud to whom Churchill refers here is King Abdul Aziz bin
Saud (c. 1880 - 1953), who would go on officially to establish Saudi
Arabia in 1932. In 1926, this king's followers had control of Mecca.
Traditionally a caravan procession (mahmal) would arrive annually at
Mecca with embroidered curtains from Egypt at the time of the Hajj
pilgrimage. The curtains would be placed around the Ka'aba and then
returned to Egypt. The Wahhabists slaughtered 25 of the Mahmal caravan
members at Mina because they played trumpets. Music was forbidden to
the Wahhabists, and the tradition of mahmal was abandoned. The
incident soured relations between Egypt and the emerging nation of
Saudi Arabia.

Winston Churchill was fully aware of the potential for fanaticism and
warfare, inherent within Islam since the time of the founder and his
successors. He did not choose to dilute his words. His experiments at
nation building in the Middle East may not have been as successful as
he would have wished. He knew that war had attended Islam since its
origins, and a century ago fanatics were exploiting this. Today, the
world is still threatened by Islamic terrorism and the war of jihad is
still being fought, even in the mountains and valleys of Malakand. Our
leaders today, unlike Winston Churchill, are too conciliatory to
acknowledge publicly the true nature of the beast that threatens us.

When he was describing Nazism, Churchill said: "An appeaser is one
who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last." He also said:
"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."
Those words should be heeded. In the current struggle against the
spread of Islamism, they are as true today as they were 65 years ago.


Topaz

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The West is the White race.

The goal of America is to destroy the White race. The
multi-culture and pluralism they push is only at the expense of
Whites. No one is trying to push multi-culture in China or Japan or
anyplace but on the Whites. And they promote racial intermarriage.
If things continue as they are the White race is doomed.

And who is doing all of this? It is the USA government and the
media, in other words the Jews.

Many Whites are traitors. They support the USA government and their
own destruction. We should look for allies. And anyone who wants to
remove the Jews from power is our ally. In the past the Japanese were
our allies. Today it is the Muslims.

Osama bin Laden
September 24th statement published in Pakistan

"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We
are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United
States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic
freedom. This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose
first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the
American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced
to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the
punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it
is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the
U.S. is not uttering a single word."

Jack From Waaaaaayyyyy Back

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>
> The West is the White race.

MUSLIME ARE RAPING WHITE WOMEN

The Epidemic of Ethnic Rape

In Australia, Norway and Sweden there is a distinct race-based crime
in which Islamic men are raping Western women for ethnic reasons. We
know this because the rapists have openly declared their sectarian
motivations.

A number of teenaged Australian girls were subjected to hours of
sexual degradation during a spate of gang rapes in Sydney that
occurred between 1998 and 2002. And the perpetrators of these assaults
framed the rationale for their actions in explicitly ethnic terms. The
young victims were informed that they were �sluts� and �Aussie pigs�
while they were being hunted down and abused.

In the NSW Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist
testified that his victims had no right to say no because they were
not wearing a headscarf.

And earlier this year Australians were outraged when Lebanese Sheik
Faiz Mohammed gave a lecture in Sydney where he informed his audience
that rape victims had no one to blame but themselves. Women, he said,
who wore skimpy clothing, invited men to rape them.

A few months earlier, in Copenhagen, Islamic mufti and scholar, Shahid
Mehdi created uproar when�like his peer in Australia�he stated that
women who did not wear a headscarf were asking to be raped.

And with haunting synchronicity in 2004, the London Telegraph reported
that visiting Egyptian scholar Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi claimed female
rape victims should be punished if they were dressed immodestly when
they were raped. And he added, �For her to be absolved from guilt, a
raped woman must have shown good conduct�.

In Norway and Sweden, journalist Fjordman informs us of a rape
epidemic. Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen stated that the steady
increase of rape-cases and the link to ethnicity are clear,
unmistakable trends. Two out of three persecutions for rape in Oslo
are immigrants with a non-Western background and eighty per cent of
the victims are Norwegian women.

In Sweden, according to translator for Jihad Watch, Ali Dashti, � Gang
rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish
girls, have become commonplace.� A few weeks ago she said, �5 Kurds
brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl.�

Unfortunately, Western women are not the only victims in this
epidemic. In Indonesia, in 1998, human rights groups documented the
testimony of over 100 Chinese women who were gang raped during the
riots that preceded the fall of President Suharto. Many of them were
told: �You must be raped because you are Chinese and non-Muslim�.

Christian Solidarity Worldwide reported that in April 2005, a
9-year-old Pakistani girl was raped, beaten with a cricket bat, hung
upside down from the ceiling, had spoonfuls of chillies poured into
her mouth and been handcuffed and repeatedly bashed. Her Muslim
neighbours told her they were taking revenge for the American bombing
of Iraqi children and informed her they were doing it because she was
an �infidel and a Christian�.

In Sudan�where Arab Muslims slaughter black Muslim and Christian
Sudanese in the ongoing genocide�former Sudanese slave and now a human
rights� activist, Simon Deng, says he witnessed girls and women being
raped and that the Arab regime of Khartoum sends its soldiers to the
field to rape and murder. In other reports, women who are captured by
government forces are asked; �Are you Christian or Muslim?� and those
who answer Christian, are gang-raped before having their breasts cut
off.

In France, Samira Bellil broke her silence�after enduring years of
repeated gang rapes in one of the Muslim populated public housing
projects�and wrote a book, In the hell of the tournantes, that shocked
France. Describing how gang rape is rampant in the banlieues, she
explained to Time that, �any neighborhood girl who smokes, uses makeup
or wears attractive clothes is a whore.�

This phenomenon of Islamic sexual violence against women should be
addressed urgently. But instead we find journalists, academics and
politicians ignoring it, rationalising it or ostracising those who
dare to discuss it.

In Australia, when journalist Paul Sheehan reported honestly on the
Sydney gang rapes, he was called a racist and accused of stirring up
anti-Muslim hatred. And when he reported in his Sydney Morning Herald
column that there was a high incidence of crime amongst Sydney�s
Lebanese community, fellow journalist, David Marr sent him an email
that said, �That is a disgraceful column that reflects poorly on us
all at the Herald.�

Keysar Trad, vice-president of the Australian Lebanese Muslim
Association said the gang rapes were a �heinous� crime but complained
it was �rather unfair� that the ethnicity of the rapists had been
reported.

Journalist Miranda Devine reported during the same rape trials that
all reference to ethnicity had been deleted from the victim impact
statement because the prosecutors wanted to negotiate a plea bargain.

So when Judge Megan Latham declared that �There is no evidence before
me of any racial element in the commission of these offences.�
Everybody believed her. And the court, the politicians and most of the
press, may as well have raped the girls again.

Retired Australian detective, Tim Priest, warned in 2004 that the
Lebanese gangs, which emerged in Sydney, in the 1990s�when the police
were asleep�had morphed out of control. �The Lebanese groups,� he
said, � were ruthless, extremely violent, and they intimidated not
only innocent witnesses, but even the police that attempted to arrest
them.�

{Snip}

RichTravsky

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And what did you learn from it?

RT

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Since the start of this year, Iran has hanged more than 20 people
convicted of murder, rape and drug smuggling. In the second half of
last year, it executed more than 55 people, mostly in the open.

Iran's top judge stops public executions Photos, video broadcasts also
banned; more than 20 hanged this year.

EHRAN, Iran - Iran's chief judge has ordered that executions will no
longer take place in public, the official IRNA news agency reported
Wednesday.

Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, a moderate conservative cleric,
also banned publishing pictures and broadcasting video footage of
executions, the report said..Contd


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22917664/

Jack From Waaaaaayyyyy Back

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MUSLIME TERRORIZING THAILAND

Nationwide alert after bombingFrom correspondents in Bangkok
April 10, 2007 03:21pm
Article from: Agence France-PresseFont size: + -

Security alert after bomb outside shopping mall
Mall was the site of previous bombings
Fears in the lead-up to Buddhist celebration

A NATIONWIDE security alert has been issued across Thailand after a
bomb exploded outside a Bangkok shopping centre that was also hit in a
wave of New Year's Eve attacks.

The device blew up at a telephone booth in front of the Major Cineplex
Ratchayothin shopping centre on the northern outskirts of the city
late yesterday.

No one was injured.

"There is a row of three phone booths and the bomb exploded in one of
them. The glass was shattered, but there were no casualties," Bangkok
city police spokesman Colonel Supisan Pakdinarunart said.

The shopping centre was among nine places in Bangkok bombed on New
Year's Eve, when three people were killed and dozens injured in blasts
around the capital.

Those attacks were followed by a co-ordinated arson and bombing spree
across the insurgency-hit southern provinces at the start of the Lunar
New Year in February.

The incidents left nine dead and 44 injured and were blamed on Islamic
separatists.

Interior Minister Aree Wongariya declined to speculate about who might
be behind the latest blast, but said he had ordered all of Thailand's
provinces to boost security for the upcoming Buddhist New Year
holiday.

"We have to provide security everywhere. I have ordered all provincial
governors to be on alert, and have dispatched our informants to find
out about any more possible attacks," he said.

The army has for months warned of possible attacks during the Buddhist
New Year celebrations, which begin on Friday and run for five days.

Meanwhile, five people including two boys were shot dead by suspected
Islamic rebels in separate shootings in the Muslim-majority south.

A 53-year-old Buddhist man was gunned down in a drive-by shooting
today in Yala, one of three insurgency-torn southern provinces
bordering Malaysia.

Four Muslims, including two boys aged 12 and 14, were shot dead in
Yala late yesterday as they were returning from a funeral for another
victim of the unrest, police said. The other two victims were men in
their 20s.

The ambush also wounded seven as they were on a ute truck returning
from the funeral for a 55-year-old man whose body was ripped in half
when a bomb exploded under his truck earlier.


Michael Ejercito

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Good.


Michael

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