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[O'Reilly Factor] Why conservatives are split on Donald Trump
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Mar 28, 2016, 2:45:12 PM3/28/16
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O'REILLY: And in the "Impact Segment" tonight, we continue with
Charles Krauthammer who is in Washington. So, conservative media
voices and politicians split on Trump, even on this news channel. Do
you see any pattern in support or dissent or is it random?
KRAUTHAMMER: I don't know if there is a pattern. I don't know if I
could identify a personality type. But I would say generally
speaking, people who are truly committed to conservatism as a cause,
rather than the Republican Party as a vehicle are -- have been
resisting coming on board Trump for the simple reason that he is not
a conservative. Now, there are others who have now signed on, who
are conservative and I'm assuming because here I'm projecting
because I'm not one of them, but if you are asking me to speak on
their behalf, they believe either that he is malleable or that if
they can climb on board the Trump train, they will have influence
and they will steer him into conservatism.
O'REILLY: All right. But I'm more interested in the cult of
personality in the segment. So, this is fascinating. A guy like
Glenn Beck, all right, can't stand Donald Trump. And he is very
conservative, very constitutional doctrinaire. Another guy on talk
radio Michael Savage, very conservative, loves Donald Trump. All
right? And then varying degrees in and out of that crew. On the
political front you have Chris Christie from New Jersey a moderate
governor. He supports Donald Trump as we know.
And then you have on the other side Senator Ben Sass from Nebraska,
another conservative. He doesn't want anything to do with Trump. I
mean, it's just Lindsey Graham, hates Trump. But Governor Paul
LePage of Maine, another conservative guy loves Trump. So, I can't
really process this. Even here when I watch the individual shows,
you know, Bolling loves Trump. You don't like him. I don't know how
it gets -- how we get there at all.
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, I object to the use of the word hate. I don't
hate anybody.
O'REILLY: I said you don't like him.
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, no, I don't like him. But it's not a matter of
liking.
O'REILLY: All right. Politically, you don't support --
KRAUTHAMMER: -- or anything, you'd be a great guy. The question is
do I want him to be president of the United States?
O'REILLY: Yes. You don't support him.
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, because I think he would not be a good president.
I think he would be a terrible president.
O'REILLY: But why do you think that and then a guy like Bolling who,
you know, is promoting Trump. See, there is something about Trump
that I think alienates people on a very emotional level. Would that
be wrong in saying that?
KRAUTHAMMER: No, I'm not sure it's emotional. I think it has to do
with two things. One is ideology. There are people who don't
particularly care about his positions. I'm not even sure anyone
knows his positions. Have you got any idea what Trump's position is
on the H1 visas? Do you think even Trump has any idea what his
position is?
O'REILLY: On which?
KRAUTHAMMER: On the H1-B visas?
O'REILLY: The visas you get educated people.
KRAUTHAMMER: Yes. He took three positions in one night in the
debate.
O'REILLY: He favors that. I know all of his positions. If you want
to know anything about him, come to me, I know every position that
he --
KRAUTHAMMER: Do you know his position on people being deported?
O'REILLY: Yes, he says he is going to deport 12 million.
KRAUTHAMMER: Yes. He says.
O'REILLY: He says.
KRAUTHAMMER: And then after he deports them --
O'REILLY: He is not going to deport them.
KRAUTHAMMER: But this is what he says.
O'REILLY: But I explained why he couldn't and I think he realizes
that.
KRAUTHAMMER: Oh, come on.
O'REILLY: Look, he says these things and he wants to do them. He
wants to do them, all right? But when faced with the reality of a
federal court system, which is going to block him, the first time he
knocks on a door, what can he do? And he understands the system that
is going to be blocked. He knows it.
KRAUTHAMMER: But the point is, when you are choosing a president,
the only thing you have to go on is what he says. So, he says he
wants to deport 12 million people. And then he says that after he
deports them, he wants to go through them and to find the really
terrific ones.
O'REILLY: But he has never even going to get.
KRAUTHAMMER: He is going to have the department of terrificness and
they are going to examine all of these people and terrific ones are
going to come back.
O'REILLY: Right. So, you have been around long enough to know that
politicians --
KRAUTHAMMER: -- I want to be head of that department.
O'REILLY: Politicians say things to mobilize support. And then they
say, you know once I get the power, then I will deal with it. So, I
want to do it, I'm sincere in saying I want to do it, and I will
find a way. And then they get in there and look at Barack Obama. The
best example. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going
to -- and he does butkus other than the healthcare.
KRAUTHAMMER: Bill, one segment ago, you introduced it by saying,
politicians say stuff and when the votes are counted everything
disappears --
O'REILLY: Disappears.
KRAUTHAMMER: Into thin air.
O'REILLY: Right.
KRAUTHAMMER: Isn't that what you are saying that Trump is doing?
O'REILLY: He wants to do what he says --
KRAUTHAMMER: I want to fly. I want to sprout wings right now and
fly.
O'REILLY: All right.
KRAUTHAMMER: But that's not what I am running for if I am running
for president.
O'REILLY: I understand and told Donald Trump to his face that the
deportation of 12 million is never going to happen. All right? And
millions of people heard and saw that. But they are still going to
vote for Trump because they like his spirit. They like the
sentiment. Last word.
KRAUTHAMMER: I want you to be head of the department of
terrificness.
(LAUGHTER)
KRAUTHAMMER: I think you would be a wonderful guy for that.
O'REILLY: I don't know. I'm not so terrific.
KRAUTHAMMER: But you -- you have a discerning eye for terrificness.
O'REILLY: That's why you are on for two segments.
KRAUTHAMMER: Absolutely.
O'REILLY: Charles Krauthammer, everybody.
KRAUTHAMMER: I'm ready for a third.
--
In the War on Women, Hillary fought an entire platoon of sexually
abused females on behalf of Bill.
Charles Krauthammer who is in Washington. So, conservative media
voices and politicians split on Trump, even on this news channel. Do
you see any pattern in support or dissent or is it random?
KRAUTHAMMER: I don't know if there is a pattern. I don't know if I
could identify a personality type. But I would say generally
speaking, people who are truly committed to conservatism as a cause,
rather than the Republican Party as a vehicle are -- have been
resisting coming on board Trump for the simple reason that he is not
a conservative. Now, there are others who have now signed on, who
are conservative and I'm assuming because here I'm projecting
because I'm not one of them, but if you are asking me to speak on
their behalf, they believe either that he is malleable or that if
they can climb on board the Trump train, they will have influence
and they will steer him into conservatism.
O'REILLY: All right. But I'm more interested in the cult of
personality in the segment. So, this is fascinating. A guy like
Glenn Beck, all right, can't stand Donald Trump. And he is very
conservative, very constitutional doctrinaire. Another guy on talk
radio Michael Savage, very conservative, loves Donald Trump. All
right? And then varying degrees in and out of that crew. On the
political front you have Chris Christie from New Jersey a moderate
governor. He supports Donald Trump as we know.
And then you have on the other side Senator Ben Sass from Nebraska,
another conservative. He doesn't want anything to do with Trump. I
mean, it's just Lindsey Graham, hates Trump. But Governor Paul
LePage of Maine, another conservative guy loves Trump. So, I can't
really process this. Even here when I watch the individual shows,
you know, Bolling loves Trump. You don't like him. I don't know how
it gets -- how we get there at all.
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, I object to the use of the word hate. I don't
hate anybody.
O'REILLY: I said you don't like him.
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, no, I don't like him. But it's not a matter of
liking.
O'REILLY: All right. Politically, you don't support --
KRAUTHAMMER: -- or anything, you'd be a great guy. The question is
do I want him to be president of the United States?
O'REILLY: Yes. You don't support him.
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, because I think he would not be a good president.
I think he would be a terrible president.
O'REILLY: But why do you think that and then a guy like Bolling who,
you know, is promoting Trump. See, there is something about Trump
that I think alienates people on a very emotional level. Would that
be wrong in saying that?
KRAUTHAMMER: No, I'm not sure it's emotional. I think it has to do
with two things. One is ideology. There are people who don't
particularly care about his positions. I'm not even sure anyone
knows his positions. Have you got any idea what Trump's position is
on the H1 visas? Do you think even Trump has any idea what his
position is?
O'REILLY: On which?
KRAUTHAMMER: On the H1-B visas?
O'REILLY: The visas you get educated people.
KRAUTHAMMER: Yes. He took three positions in one night in the
debate.
O'REILLY: He favors that. I know all of his positions. If you want
to know anything about him, come to me, I know every position that
he --
KRAUTHAMMER: Do you know his position on people being deported?
O'REILLY: Yes, he says he is going to deport 12 million.
KRAUTHAMMER: Yes. He says.
O'REILLY: He says.
KRAUTHAMMER: And then after he deports them --
O'REILLY: He is not going to deport them.
KRAUTHAMMER: But this is what he says.
O'REILLY: But I explained why he couldn't and I think he realizes
that.
KRAUTHAMMER: Oh, come on.
O'REILLY: Look, he says these things and he wants to do them. He
wants to do them, all right? But when faced with the reality of a
federal court system, which is going to block him, the first time he
knocks on a door, what can he do? And he understands the system that
is going to be blocked. He knows it.
KRAUTHAMMER: But the point is, when you are choosing a president,
the only thing you have to go on is what he says. So, he says he
wants to deport 12 million people. And then he says that after he
deports them, he wants to go through them and to find the really
terrific ones.
O'REILLY: But he has never even going to get.
KRAUTHAMMER: He is going to have the department of terrificness and
they are going to examine all of these people and terrific ones are
going to come back.
O'REILLY: Right. So, you have been around long enough to know that
politicians --
KRAUTHAMMER: -- I want to be head of that department.
O'REILLY: Politicians say things to mobilize support. And then they
say, you know once I get the power, then I will deal with it. So, I
want to do it, I'm sincere in saying I want to do it, and I will
find a way. And then they get in there and look at Barack Obama. The
best example. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going
to -- and he does butkus other than the healthcare.
KRAUTHAMMER: Bill, one segment ago, you introduced it by saying,
politicians say stuff and when the votes are counted everything
disappears --
O'REILLY: Disappears.
KRAUTHAMMER: Into thin air.
O'REILLY: Right.
KRAUTHAMMER: Isn't that what you are saying that Trump is doing?
O'REILLY: He wants to do what he says --
KRAUTHAMMER: I want to fly. I want to sprout wings right now and
fly.
O'REILLY: All right.
KRAUTHAMMER: But that's not what I am running for if I am running
for president.
O'REILLY: I understand and told Donald Trump to his face that the
deportation of 12 million is never going to happen. All right? And
millions of people heard and saw that. But they are still going to
vote for Trump because they like his spirit. They like the
sentiment. Last word.
KRAUTHAMMER: I want you to be head of the department of
terrificness.
(LAUGHTER)
KRAUTHAMMER: I think you would be a wonderful guy for that.
O'REILLY: I don't know. I'm not so terrific.
KRAUTHAMMER: But you -- you have a discerning eye for terrificness.
O'REILLY: That's why you are on for two segments.
KRAUTHAMMER: Absolutely.
O'REILLY: Charles Krauthammer, everybody.
KRAUTHAMMER: I'm ready for a third.
--
In the War on Women, Hillary fought an entire platoon of sexually
abused females on behalf of Bill.
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