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walt tonne
Oct 23, 2011, 7:46:35 PM10/23/11
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On Oct 14, 9:28 pm, "James Miller" <jamesmil...@spaminator.com> wrote:
> Article Link:http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com
>
> The Two Jewish-led Globalist Camps, In Competition For Global Control
>
> By James Miller, PhD
>
> There are two distinct ideological globalist camps, both led by Jews -- each
> camp competes with the other for global control:
>
> 1) THE LIBERAL CAMP
>
> 2) THE NEOCON CAMP (the term "New World Order" generally refers to this
> globalist camp, and usually not the liberal camp)
>
> It is critical to understand that each ideological camp was created,
> developed, and fine-tuned by Jewish intellectuals. Without Jewish
> intellectuals, there would be no radical liberal school of thought
> (Communism, Socialism, Trotskyism, and all their supporting
> submovements/ideas such as feminism, gay rights, political correctness,
> etc.). Similarly, without Jewish intellectuals, there wouldn't be a Neocon
> school of thought.
>
> The liberal Jewish camp is primarily composed of Trotskyite Jews (or just
> very left leaning Jews, plus their Gentile followers) who want a borderless
> world with a global government based on the United Nations concept (or even
> the UN itself). These are the "do-gooders" who naively dream of a John
> Lennon "Imagine" type world. They feel they can "love their way" to global
> power (though they can become violent against anyone who opposes their
> worldview). In the 1960's they were called the "New Left" (e.g., Abbie
> Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Max Horkheimer, Saul Alinsky, etc).
>
> The Neocon Jewish camp (plus their Gentile followers) also want a borderless
> world but with a global government revolving around a NY-DC-LONDON-JERUSALEM
> axis. These are the exploitative-type Jews, the Super-Elite, who want 95% of
> global wealth in their hands and the rest of humanity in a "global
> plantation" type condition. They feel they can bomb their way to global
> power. Incidentally, the cold war Gentile warriors (e.g., Nixon, Reagan,
> Bush Sr., etc) and their Jewish globalist handlers (e.g., Henry Kissinger,
> Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Milton Friedman, etc) fall in this camp.
>
> Pick almost any influential globalist Jew and they'll rather neatly fit into
> either the liberal camp or the Neocon camp. However, it should be noted that
> occasionally you'll find a Jew who is primarily in the liberal camp but with
> one foot in the Neocon/Zionist camp (out of "tribal" loyalty to Israel).
>
> THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME GLOBALIST JEWS, ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLICATIONS, ETC
> SHOWING WHICH CAMP THEY FIT IN.
> NOTE: Some people on this list are not Jews. However, they are often
> referred to as "Jew-think Gentiles", i.e., they subscribe to and advance the
> globalist Jewish agenda (knowingly or unknowingly).
> NOTE: Many listed below are fully aware of the globalist agenda they are
> involved in. Others, however, are unaware and thus are simply "pawns",
> "tools", or "cogs in the machinery" of the globalist agenda they are
> (unknowingly) advancing.
>
> LIBERAL JEWISH GLOBALIST CAMP (in no particular order)
> Noam Chomsky
> George Soros
> Open Society Institute
> The radical elements of the Democratic Party (e.g. Dennis Kucinich, Bernie
> Sanders)
> The Rockefeller Foundation
> United Nations
> Workers World
> European Union
> Any "Green" political party
> Any Socialist or Communist political party (of course)
> Any radical "Progressive" organization
> International Committee Against Racism (and any anti-racist organization)
> Any anti-Fascist organization
> Any anti-Nationalist organization (of course)
> All Hollywood film and television studios
> Organizations fighting Global Warming (but generally only the higher ups in
> these organizations)
> Greenpeace (but generally only the higher ups in this organization)
> Sierra Club (but generally only the higher ups in this organization)
> Carnegie Endowment For International Peace
> PBS (Public Broadcasting Service)
> Michael Moore
> Amy Goodman & the entire "Democracy Now!" lineup
> HIAS (Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society)
> Amnesty International
> Human Rights Watch (and just about any human rights organization)
> Norman Finkelstein (critical of Israel, says good things about David Irving,
> but a lifelong Maoist)
> Zbigniew Brzezinski
> The Pope & much of the Vatican
> The entire MSNBC lineup
> ANSWER Coalition (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) - American Trotskyite
> organization
> UAF (Unite Against Fascism) - British Trotskyite organization funded in part
> by George Soros
> J-Street (with a foot in the ZIONIST camp but not in a militant "Likud-type"
> way)
> CODEPINK (radical feminist organization in the mold of militant,
> Anarchist-Communist Jew Emma Goldman)
> The Trilateral Commission (much debate surrounds the classification of this
> organization; I put it here)
> L.A. Jews for Peace (each large city has a similar group)
> ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union)
> SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center)
> Foreign Policy (political journal/magazine)
> Los Angeles Times
> Ford Foundation
> Tides Foundation (funded in part by Teresa Heinz-Kerry)
> et al.
>
> NEOCON JEWISH GLOBALIST CAMP (in no particular order)
> Benjamin Netanyahu
> Rothschild Family
> Alan Dershowitz
> Dennis Prager
> Michael Medved
> Most (or at least many) Clear Channel AM talk radio hosts
> Bush Family
> Dick Cheney
> Thomas Friedman
> The radical elements of the Republican Party (e.g. Newt Gingrich, John
> McCain)
> Ann Coulter
> The Weekly Standard (political magazine)
> The Wall Street Journal
> The Washington Times
> Any publication by Rupert Murdoch
> Foreign Affairs (political journal/magazine)
> AJC (American Jewish Committee)
> JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs)
> NATO
> Pentagon
> European Jewish Congress
> Koch Brothers
> Steven Spielberg
> Rush Limbaugh
> Alan Greenspan
> Ben Bernanke
> Leo Strauss (known as the father of the Neocon movement)
> Chaim Weizmann (key historical figure)
> David Ben-Gurion (key historical figure)
> AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
> CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)
> Hoover Institution
> The CATO Institute
> WTO (World Trade Organization) - the WTO facilitates tarrif free trade, thus
> allowing for the use of wage-slave labor in the third world
> NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and all other "free" trade pacts (also called
> "Neoliberal" trade policies)
> World Bank
> IMF (International Monetary Fund)
> AEI (American Enterprise Institute)
> WJC (World Jewish Congress)
> Simon Wiesenthal Center
> The entire FOX News lineup
> Pamela Geller
> et al.
>
> ###
>
> Article Link:http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com
Very interesting.
> Article Link:http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com
>
> The Two Jewish-led Globalist Camps, In Competition For Global Control
>
> By James Miller, PhD
>
> There are two distinct ideological globalist camps, both led by Jews -- each
> camp competes with the other for global control:
>
> 1) THE LIBERAL CAMP
>
> 2) THE NEOCON CAMP (the term "New World Order" generally refers to this
> globalist camp, and usually not the liberal camp)
>
> It is critical to understand that each ideological camp was created,
> developed, and fine-tuned by Jewish intellectuals. Without Jewish
> intellectuals, there would be no radical liberal school of thought
> (Communism, Socialism, Trotskyism, and all their supporting
> submovements/ideas such as feminism, gay rights, political correctness,
> etc.). Similarly, without Jewish intellectuals, there wouldn't be a Neocon
> school of thought.
>
> The liberal Jewish camp is primarily composed of Trotskyite Jews (or just
> very left leaning Jews, plus their Gentile followers) who want a borderless
> world with a global government based on the United Nations concept (or even
> the UN itself). These are the "do-gooders" who naively dream of a John
> Lennon "Imagine" type world. They feel they can "love their way" to global
> power (though they can become violent against anyone who opposes their
> worldview). In the 1960's they were called the "New Left" (e.g., Abbie
> Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Max Horkheimer, Saul Alinsky, etc).
>
> The Neocon Jewish camp (plus their Gentile followers) also want a borderless
> world but with a global government revolving around a NY-DC-LONDON-JERUSALEM
> axis. These are the exploitative-type Jews, the Super-Elite, who want 95% of
> global wealth in their hands and the rest of humanity in a "global
> plantation" type condition. They feel they can bomb their way to global
> power. Incidentally, the cold war Gentile warriors (e.g., Nixon, Reagan,
> Bush Sr., etc) and their Jewish globalist handlers (e.g., Henry Kissinger,
> Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Milton Friedman, etc) fall in this camp.
>
> Pick almost any influential globalist Jew and they'll rather neatly fit into
> either the liberal camp or the Neocon camp. However, it should be noted that
> occasionally you'll find a Jew who is primarily in the liberal camp but with
> one foot in the Neocon/Zionist camp (out of "tribal" loyalty to Israel).
>
> THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME GLOBALIST JEWS, ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLICATIONS, ETC
> SHOWING WHICH CAMP THEY FIT IN.
> NOTE: Some people on this list are not Jews. However, they are often
> referred to as "Jew-think Gentiles", i.e., they subscribe to and advance the
> globalist Jewish agenda (knowingly or unknowingly).
> NOTE: Many listed below are fully aware of the globalist agenda they are
> involved in. Others, however, are unaware and thus are simply "pawns",
> "tools", or "cogs in the machinery" of the globalist agenda they are
> (unknowingly) advancing.
>
> LIBERAL JEWISH GLOBALIST CAMP (in no particular order)
> Noam Chomsky
> George Soros
> Open Society Institute
> The radical elements of the Democratic Party (e.g. Dennis Kucinich, Bernie
> Sanders)
> The Rockefeller Foundation
> United Nations
> Workers World
> European Union
> Any "Green" political party
> Any Socialist or Communist political party (of course)
> Any radical "Progressive" organization
> International Committee Against Racism (and any anti-racist organization)
> Any anti-Fascist organization
> Any anti-Nationalist organization (of course)
> All Hollywood film and television studios
> Organizations fighting Global Warming (but generally only the higher ups in
> these organizations)
> Greenpeace (but generally only the higher ups in this organization)
> Sierra Club (but generally only the higher ups in this organization)
> Carnegie Endowment For International Peace
> PBS (Public Broadcasting Service)
> Michael Moore
> Amy Goodman & the entire "Democracy Now!" lineup
> HIAS (Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society)
> Amnesty International
> Human Rights Watch (and just about any human rights organization)
> Norman Finkelstein (critical of Israel, says good things about David Irving,
> but a lifelong Maoist)
> Zbigniew Brzezinski
> The Pope & much of the Vatican
> The entire MSNBC lineup
> ANSWER Coalition (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) - American Trotskyite
> organization
> UAF (Unite Against Fascism) - British Trotskyite organization funded in part
> by George Soros
> J-Street (with a foot in the ZIONIST camp but not in a militant "Likud-type"
> way)
> CODEPINK (radical feminist organization in the mold of militant,
> Anarchist-Communist Jew Emma Goldman)
> The Trilateral Commission (much debate surrounds the classification of this
> organization; I put it here)
> L.A. Jews for Peace (each large city has a similar group)
> ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union)
> SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center)
> Foreign Policy (political journal/magazine)
> Los Angeles Times
> Ford Foundation
> Tides Foundation (funded in part by Teresa Heinz-Kerry)
> et al.
>
> NEOCON JEWISH GLOBALIST CAMP (in no particular order)
> Benjamin Netanyahu
> Rothschild Family
> Alan Dershowitz
> Dennis Prager
> Michael Medved
> Most (or at least many) Clear Channel AM talk radio hosts
> Bush Family
> Dick Cheney
> Thomas Friedman
> The radical elements of the Republican Party (e.g. Newt Gingrich, John
> McCain)
> Ann Coulter
> The Weekly Standard (political magazine)
> The Wall Street Journal
> The Washington Times
> Any publication by Rupert Murdoch
> Foreign Affairs (political journal/magazine)
> AJC (American Jewish Committee)
> JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs)
> NATO
> Pentagon
> European Jewish Congress
> Koch Brothers
> Steven Spielberg
> Rush Limbaugh
> Alan Greenspan
> Ben Bernanke
> Leo Strauss (known as the father of the Neocon movement)
> Chaim Weizmann (key historical figure)
> David Ben-Gurion (key historical figure)
> AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
> CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)
> Hoover Institution
> The CATO Institute
> WTO (World Trade Organization) - the WTO facilitates tarrif free trade, thus
> allowing for the use of wage-slave labor in the third world
> NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and all other "free" trade pacts (also called
> "Neoliberal" trade policies)
> World Bank
> IMF (International Monetary Fund)
> AEI (American Enterprise Institute)
> WJC (World Jewish Congress)
> Simon Wiesenthal Center
> The entire FOX News lineup
> Pamela Geller
> et al.
>
> ###
>
> Article Link:http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com
Very interesting.
Wonder
Oct 24, 2011, 8:02:26 AM10/24/11
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From comp.risks:
>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:10:56 -0400
>From: Monty Solomon <mo...@roscom.com>
>Subject: NJ election cover-up (Andrew Appel)
>
>By Andrew Appel, Freedom to Tinker, 13 Sep 2011
>
>During the June 2011 New Jersey primary election, something went wrong in
>Cumberland County, which uses Sequoia AVC Advantage direct-recording
>electronic voting computers. From this we learned several things:
>
> 1. New Jersey court-ordered election-security measures have not been
> effectively implemented.
>
> 2. There is a reason to believe that New Jersey election officials have
> destroyed evidence in a pending court case, perhaps to cover up the
> noncompliance with these measures or to cover up irregularities in this
> election. There is enough evidence of a cover-up that a Superior Court
> judge has referred the matter to the State prosecutor's office.
>
> 3. Like any DRE voting machine, the AVC Advantage is vulnerable to
> software-based vote stealing by replacing the internal vote-counting
> firmware. That kind of fraud probably did not occur in this case. But
> even without replacing the internal firmware, the AVC Advantage voting
> machine is vulnerable to the accidental or deliberate swapping of
> vote-totals between candidates. It is clear that the machine
> misreported votes in this election, and both technical and procedural
> safeguards proved ineffective to fully correct the error.
> [...]
>
> https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/nj-election-cover
>
>
>Did NJ election officials fail to respect court order to improve security of
>elections?
>https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/did-nj-election-officials-fail-respect-court-order-improve-security-elections
>
>Will the NJ Attorney General investigate the NJ Attorney General?
>https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/will-nj-attorney-general-investigate-nj-attorney-general
>
>What happens when the printed ballot face doesn't match the electronic ballot definition?
>https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/what-happens-when-printed-ballot-face-doesnt-match-electronic-ballot-definition
>
>http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/voting/nj-election-cover-up.pdf
If it's electronic, it's no election.
>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:10:56 -0400
>From: Monty Solomon <mo...@roscom.com>
>Subject: NJ election cover-up (Andrew Appel)
>
>By Andrew Appel, Freedom to Tinker, 13 Sep 2011
>
>During the June 2011 New Jersey primary election, something went wrong in
>Cumberland County, which uses Sequoia AVC Advantage direct-recording
>electronic voting computers. From this we learned several things:
>
> 1. New Jersey court-ordered election-security measures have not been
> effectively implemented.
>
> 2. There is a reason to believe that New Jersey election officials have
> destroyed evidence in a pending court case, perhaps to cover up the
> noncompliance with these measures or to cover up irregularities in this
> election. There is enough evidence of a cover-up that a Superior Court
> judge has referred the matter to the State prosecutor's office.
>
> 3. Like any DRE voting machine, the AVC Advantage is vulnerable to
> software-based vote stealing by replacing the internal vote-counting
> firmware. That kind of fraud probably did not occur in this case. But
> even without replacing the internal firmware, the AVC Advantage voting
> machine is vulnerable to the accidental or deliberate swapping of
> vote-totals between candidates. It is clear that the machine
> misreported votes in this election, and both technical and procedural
> safeguards proved ineffective to fully correct the error.
> [...]
>
> https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/nj-election-cover
>
>
>Did NJ election officials fail to respect court order to improve security of
>elections?
>https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/did-nj-election-officials-fail-respect-court-order-improve-security-elections
>
>Will the NJ Attorney General investigate the NJ Attorney General?
>https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/will-nj-attorney-general-investigate-nj-attorney-general
>
>What happens when the printed ballot face doesn't match the electronic ballot definition?
>https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/appel/what-happens-when-printed-ballot-face-doesnt-match-electronic-ballot-definition
>
>http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/voting/nj-election-cover-up.pdf
If it's electronic, it's no election.
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Wonder
Oct 25, 2011, 11:31:38 AM10/25/11
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:19:30 -0700, Acid Washed China Blue Jeans <chine...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>In article <rqkaa75960e271s05...@4ax.com>, Wonder wrote:
>
>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
>A lesson from the management of programming:
>
>Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
With electronic 'voting', you only get one: fast.
The systems are unreliable, nonsecure, and exhorbitantly expensive.
They don't even actually do the job for which they'd be ostensibly intended.
wrote:
>In article <rqkaa75960e271s05...@4ax.com>, Wonder wrote:
>
>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
>
>Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
With electronic 'voting', you only get one: fast.
The systems are unreliable, nonsecure, and exhorbitantly expensive.
They don't even actually do the job for which they'd be ostensibly intended.
BruceS
Oct 25, 2011, 3:53:13 PM10/25/11
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On Oct 25, 9:31 am, Wonder wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:19:30 -0700, Acid Washed China Blue Jeans <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
intended. Uncle Joe had it right.
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:19:30 -0700, Acid Washed China Blue Jeans <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <rqkaa75960e271s05pk0cr5atbhnvat...@4ax.com>, Wonder wrote:
>
> >> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
> >A lesson from the management of programming:
>
> >Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>
> With electronic 'voting', you only get one: fast.
>
> The systems are unreliable, nonsecure, and exhorbitantly expensive.
>
> They don't even actually do the job for which they'd be ostensibly intended.
Perhaps not, but they very well do the job for which they were
> >In article <rqkaa75960e271s05pk0cr5atbhnvat...@4ax.com>, Wonder wrote:
>
> >> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
> >A lesson from the management of programming:
>
> >Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>
> With electronic 'voting', you only get one: fast.
>
> The systems are unreliable, nonsecure, and exhorbitantly expensive.
>
> They don't even actually do the job for which they'd be ostensibly intended.
intended. Uncle Joe had it right.
Rod Speed
Oct 25, 2011, 4:19:25 PM10/25/11
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Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
> Wonder wrote
>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
Wrong with Linux most obviously.
> Wonder wrote
>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
> A lesson from the management of programming:
Nope.
> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
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Rod Speed
Oct 25, 2011, 11:14:57 PM10/25/11
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Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
> Just because they aren't billed hours doesn't mean
> expensive resources haven't been devoted to it.
You never could bullshit your way out of wet paper bag.
> Actually many of the hours have been billed to a variety of businesses
> hoping to make indirect profits from a Linux investment.
Fuck all have in fact.
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Rod Speed
Oct 26, 2011, 4:53:29 AM10/26/11
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Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>> Nope.
>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
> Oh, dear, did I point out your angel has dirty robes?
> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>> Nope.
>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
Nope, jiust made a very spectacular fool of yourself, endlessly.
> At least Linus is bravely soldierring on, refusing the corporate teat.
Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim at the top.
>>> Just because they aren't billed hours doesn't mean
>>> expensive resources haven't been devoted to it.
>> You never could bullshit your way out of wet paper bag.
>>> Actually many of the hours have been billed to a variety of businesses
>>> hoping to make indirect profits from a Linux investment.
>> Fuck all have in fact.
You never could bullshit your way out of wet paper bag.
Irrelevant to your stupid claim, again.
Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:49 AM10/27/11
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The electronics have deprived American voters of valid elections.
Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:50 AM10/27/11
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:14:57 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... mindlessly superficial claim.
If you claim that the 'voting' systems would offer
Americans real elections, it's an outright falsehood.
>... mindlessly superficial claim.
If you claim that the 'voting' systems would offer
Americans real elections, it's an outright falsehood.
Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:49 AM10/27/11
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:19:25 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>
>Nope.
You don't get to manage the programming of elections, do you.
>Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>
>Nope.
>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>
>Wrong with Linux most obviously.
won...@it.all
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:50 AM10/27/11
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:53:29 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... mindlessly superficial claim ... stupid claim, again.
If you claim that electronic 'elections' would be
valid, it's actually a salient lie.
>... mindlessly superficial claim ... stupid claim, again.
If you claim that electronic 'elections' would be
valid, it's actually a salient lie.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 6:06:25 PM10/27/11
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Wonder wrote
>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
> You don't get to use Linux to 'vote'.
Irrelevant to that stupid claim of his.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>> Wonder wrote
>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>> Nope.
> You don't get to manage the programming of elections, do you.
Irrelevant to that stupid claim of his.
>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>> Wonder wrote
>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>> Nope.
> You don't get to manage the programming of elections, do you.
>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
> You don't get to use Linux to 'vote'.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 6:10:32 PM10/27/11
to
Wonder wrote
> If you claim that the 'voting' systems would offer
> Americans real elections, it's an outright falsehood.
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>>>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
> If you claim that the 'voting' systems would offer
> Americans real elections, it's an outright falsehood.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 6:11:36 PM10/27/11
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Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:06 PM10/27/11
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:10:32 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
You're so preoccupied with your ignorance
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
that you certainly can't address the subject.
>... mindlessly superficial claim.
Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:05 PM10/27/11
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:11:36 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having fun thrashing that straw man ...
You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
You don't even realize that you should.
>Having fun thrashing that straw man ...
You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
You don't even realize that you should.
Unknown
Oct 27, 2011, 7:47:06 PM10/27/11
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:06:25 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... stupid claim...
>... stupid claim...
Your belief in the electronic 'voting'
equipment is quite unfounded.
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:19:25 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>
>Nope.
You don't get to manage the programming of elections, do you.
>... stupid claim...
>... stupid claim...
Your belief in the electronic 'voting'
equipment is quite unfounded.
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:19:25 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>
>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>
>Nope.
You don't get to manage the programming of elections, do you.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 7:53:00 PM10/27/11
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Wonder wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> You don't even realize that you should.
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ... mindlessly superficial claim ... stupid claim, again.
> If you claim that electronic 'elections' would be valid,
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> it's actually a salient lie.
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
> You don't even realize that you should.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ... mindlessly superficial claim ... stupid claim, again.
> If you claim that electronic 'elections' would be valid,
> it's actually a salient lie.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 7:57:45 PM10/27/11
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Wonder wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>>>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>>>>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>>>>>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>>>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>>>>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>>>>>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
> You're so preoccupied with your ignorance
> that you certainly can't address the subject.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> ... mindlessly superficial claim.
> If you claim that the 'voting' systems would offer
> Americans real elections, it's an outright falsehood.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 8:05:22 PM10/27/11
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* US * wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:06:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... stupid claim...
>> ... stupid claim...
> Your belief in the electronic 'voting'
> equipment is quite unfounded.
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:06:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... stupid claim...
>> ... stupid claim...
> Your belief in the electronic 'voting'
> equipment is quite unfounded.
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 8:33:09 PM10/27/11
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:53:00 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
You're chanting words you don't understand.
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
No wonder you can't handle the subject.
>Having fun thrashing that straw man ...
You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
You don't even realize that you should.
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:53:29 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... mindlessly superficial claim ... stupid claim, again.
If you claim that electronic 'elections' would be
valid, it's actually a salient lie.
>... mindlessly superficial claim ... stupid claim, again.
If you claim that electronic 'elections' would be
Wonder
Oct 27, 2011, 8:33:10 PM10/27/11
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:57:45 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... bullshit ...
It's all you have, isn't it.
>... bullshit ...
It's all you have, isn't it.
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
You're so preoccupied with your ignorance
that you certainly can't address the subject.
that you certainly can't address the subject.
Unknown
Oct 27, 2011, 8:33:10 PM10/27/11
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:05:22 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... thrashing ...
Something has you completely unable
to discuss the subject, certainly.
If it's electronic, it's no election.
>... thrashing ...
Something has you completely unable
to discuss the subject, certainly.
If it's electronic, it's no election.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:06:25 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... stupid claim...
>... stupid claim...
Your belief in the electronic 'voting'
equipment is quite unfounded.
>... stupid claim...
>... stupid claim...
Your belief in the electronic 'voting'
equipment is quite unfounded.
Rod Speed
Oct 27, 2011, 10:35:54 PM10/27/11
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Wonder wrote
> No wonder you can't handle the subject.
Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
> You're chanting words you don't understand.
Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man
> You're chanting words you don't understand.
> No wonder you can't handle the subject.
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Rod Speed
Oct 28, 2011, 12:10:05 AM10/28/11
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Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>>>>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>>>>>>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
>>>> Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
>>> You're so preoccupied with your ignorance
>>> that you certainly can't address the subject.
>> You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
> Well, that just exhausted your vocabulary.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Wonder wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's electronic, it's no election.
>>>>>>>>>>> A lesson from the management of programming:
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>> Fast, cheap, or correct: You can only have two out of the three.
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong with Linux most obviously.
>>>>>>>>> How many programming hours have been spent on it?
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your mindlessly superficial claim.
>>>> Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
>>> You're so preoccupied with your ignorance
>>> that you certainly can't address the subject.
>> You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Rod Speed
Oct 28, 2011, 12:10:51 AM10/28/11
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Acid Washed China Blue Jeans wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
> You've just exhausted your vocabulary.
>> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
> You've just exhausted your vocabulary.
Record's stuck, child.
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
>> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
Record's stuck, child.
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Wonder
Oct 28, 2011, 6:46:24 AM10/28/11
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Wonder
Oct 28, 2011, 6:46:23 AM10/28/11
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http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/US-Lab-Says-Electronic-Voting-Machines-Easy-to-Hack-132016698.html
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:35:54 +1100, "Rot Bleat" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Everyone
That's mere fallacy.
>.. lying, as always.
Your fallacies are lies, and your claim that
electronic 'voting' isn't a problem is a lie.
>Everyone
That's mere fallacy.
>.. lying, as always.
Tell us about how perfect the electronic
'voting' systems really are.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:53:00 +1100, "Rot Bleat" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
You're chanting words you don't understand.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:35:54 +1100, "Rot Bleat" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Everyone
That's mere fallacy.
>.. lying, as always.
Your fallacies are lies, and your claim that
electronic 'voting' isn't a problem is a lie.
>Everyone
That's mere fallacy.
>.. lying, as always.
Tell us about how perfect the electronic
'voting' systems really are.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:53:00 +1100, "Rot Bleat" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
>Having fun thrashing that straw man
You're chanting words you don't understand.
No wonder you can't handle the subject.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:11:36 +1100, "Rot Bleat" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having fun thrashing that straw man ...
You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
You don't even realize that you should.
>Having fun thrashing that straw man ...
You can't show that the electronic 'elections' would be valid.
You don't even realize that you should.
Wonder
Oct 28, 2011, 6:46:24 AM10/28/11
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