On 5/19/2017 10:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2017 20:11:58 -0700, Fred J. McCall
> <
fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jonathan <
Wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>
>>> How can an investigation determine is someone
>>> is compromised by a foreign govt without
>>> see their finances? Money is the first thing
>>> they'll want to see for not just Trump but
>>> all of Trump's Moscow minions.
>>>
>>
>> That question has already been answered. There's nothing there.
>
> Nothing - or we'd have had tons of details
> already.
Ya mean like Flynn being paid $530,000 from
Turkey and some 30 grand from Russia today?
Without Trump's taxes we have almost no details
about his finances. The investigations are just
beginning.
When Comey testifies soon, that will be
high political drama, as tense as when
Ollie and Poindexter testified over
Iran Contra, more exciting.
Nixon unraveled over two or three years, while
it's taken Trump only one week to go from
almost zero legal jeopardy, to publicly
confessing to obstructing justice.
This last week has seen some one dozen
incriminating revelations, it's almost
unbelievable.
Trump fought the 'law' and the law is
kicking his ass.
This is just a politically-motivated
> witch-hunt instigated by Obama and HRC
> and facilitated by Mr. Comey. I think most
> of America already understands this ... it's
> only Dem money (likely Soros money)
> keeping the ruse going.
>
> Next they'll wanna photograph the buttocks
> of Trumps campaign people - looking for
> any "Russia-shaped" birthmarks :-)
>
>> That being said, what makes you think YOU will ever get to see
>> anything?
Well, during Clinton's impeachment we got to learn
so many personal details it became R-Rated.
If we can learn Clinton came all over Monica's shoulder
instead of in her mouth I think Trump's taxes will
make their way to the public once the investigation
is over.
That is, if Trump makes it that long.
>> You know, someone being investigated does NOT remove their
>> right to privacy from prying loons like you.
>
When you run for President privacy is a thing
of the past. The public has a right to know
just about everything outside the bedroom.
Unless of course your name is Clinton.
I know he's not legally required to release
his taxes, but if credible allegations arise
the people have a right to know if their
president is a crook.
> Actually, it'd be illegal to discuss details of
> Trumps IRS filings in a public forum.
Bullshit. Unless you happen to be the person
that hacked them. Conversations here in usenet
have the very highest level of First Amendment
protection of all, according to the US Supreme
Court.
Anything goes, this is not publishing it's speech.
As if two people were talking to each other in a
living room, the law has nothing at all to say about
what is discussed on usenet outside the obvious
like conspiring to commit some crime and so on.
It's all
> private info unless HE makes it public.
Once it's leaked to the public, the public
can talk about it all they like.
It's illegal for the leaker, not for the recipient.
That's why reporters aren't jailed for printing
leaked information even if it's classified.
If one
> speck of that IRS info escaped to the press
> the leakers would be subject to prosecution.
> Any prying into his taxes would HAVE to be
> done behind doubly-locked doors.
>
> Oh, and Trump had a global biz empire. Why
> would Russian money be directly from, or
> directly to, his personal accounts ?
After Trump's two bankruptcies he could no longer
get loans from ANY US banks, and real estate deals
need huge loans. Yet his deals continued.
The presumption, given substance by Donald Jr
bragging about how much Russian money was
'pouring in', is that Trump for several years
was forced to borrow from dubious sources
such as Russian oligarchs.
And if true, Putin would know all that and be
able to threaten to release those financial
vulnerabilities, essentially having the
ability to blackmail Trump.
And Trump's irrational obsession with praising
and excusing Putin at every turn only makes
that presumption appear credible.
His taxes would answer all that, either way.
And now firing Comey in the idiotic assumption
that would somehow end the Russian investigation
is just the icing on the case.
You'd
> more likely be looking for a ten million dollar
> entry in a Bulgarian hotel-construction subsidiary
> for "cleaning supplies" :-)
>
>
He could have ended the suspicion easily
be releasing his taxes, and showing all
the speculation is wrong.
But now that he attempted to obstruct justice
and admitted it publicly, that ship has sailed.
Even if his finances are clean, he's still sunk.
And it was his own big mouth that sunk him.
The guy is stupid or something.