McCain gave the Vietcom military secrets......He's a communist collarborator
GhostofFDR
John McCain's Collaborations:
During his 23rd mission over Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, Lt. Commander
John McCain was shot down by a surface-to-air missile.
To relate the event, McCain later recalled that he was "flying right
over the heart of Hanoi in a dive at about 4,500 feet, when a Russian
missile the size of a telephone pole came up--the sky was full of
them--and blew the right wing off my Skyhawk dive bomber. It went into
an inverted, almost straight-down spin. -U.S. News and World Report,
May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
"I pulled the ejection handle, and was knocked unconscious by the
force of the ejection--the air speed was about 500 knots. I didn't
realize it at the moment, but I had broken my right leg around the
knee, my right arm in three places and my left arm. I regained
consciousness just before I landed by parachute in a lake right in the
center of Hanoi, one they called the Western Lake. My helmet and my
oxygen mask had been blown off. "I hit the water and sank to the
bottom . . . I did not feel any pain at the time, and I was able to
rise to the surface. I took a breath of air and started sinking
again." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by
former POW John McCain
After bobbing up and down, he was eventually pulled from the water by
Vietnamese who had swam out to get him.
A mob gathered on shore and McCain was bayoneted in the foot and his
shoulder was smashed with a rifle butt. He was put on a truck and
taken to Hanoi's main prison.
After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by
his captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called
for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer,
"O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the
hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written
by former POW John McCain
McCain was taken to Gai Lam military hospital normally unavailable to
American POWS. (U.S. government documents)
"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to
terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate.
Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and
confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194,
Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.
Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press began quoting him
giving specific military information.
One report dated read, "To a question of the correspondent, McCain
answered: 'My assignment to the Oriskany, I told myself, was due to
serious losses in pilots, which were sustained by this aircraft
carrier (due to its raids on the North Vietnam territory - VNA) and
which necessitated replacements. From 10 to 12 pilots were transferred
like me from the Forrestal to the Oriskany. Before I was shot down, we
had made several sorties. Altogether, I made about 23 flights over
North Vietnam.'"
In that report, McCain was quoted describing the number of aircraft in
his flight, information about rescue ships, and the order of which his
attack was supposed to take place.
Through the Freedom of Information Act, the U.S. Veteran Dispatch
acquired a declassified Department of Defense (DOD) transcript of an
interview prominent French television reporter Francois Chalais had
with McCain.
Chalais told of his private interview with POW McCain in a series
titled Life in Hanoi, which was aired in Europe. In the series,
Chalais said his meeting with McCain was "a meeting which will leave
its mark on my life."
"My meeting with John Sidney McCain was certainly one of those
meetings which will affect me most profoundly for the rest of my life.
I had asked the North Vietnamese authorities to allow me to personally
interrogate an American prisoner. They authorized me to do so. When
night fell, they took me---without any precautions or mystery--to a
hospital near the Gia Lam airport reserved for the [North Vietnamese]
military. (passage omitted) The officer who receives me begins: I ask
you not to ask any questions of political nature. If this man replies
in a way unfavorable to us, they will not hesitate to speak of
'brainwashing' and conclude that we threatened him.
"'This John Sidney McCain is not an ordinary prisoner. His father is
none other than Admiral Edmond John McCain, commander in chief of U.S.
naval forces in Europe. (passage omitted)'"
". . . Many visitors came to talk to me [John McCain]. Not all of it
was for interrogation. Once a famous North Vietnamese writer-an old
man with a Ho Chi Minh beard-came to my room, wanting to know all
about Ernest Hemingway . . . Others came to find out about life in the
United States. They figured because my father had such high military
rank that I was of the royalty or governing circle . . . One of the
men who came to see me, whose picture I recognized later, was Gen. Vo
Nguyen Giap, the hero of Dienbienphu." U.S. News and World Report, May
14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
Vietnamese doctors operate (early December 1967) on McCain's Leg.
Later that month, six weeks after he was shot down, McCain was taken
from the hospital and delivered to a POW camp, Room No. 11 in "The
Plantation" and into the hands of two other U.S. POWs, Air Force
majors George "Bud" Day and Norris Overly. They helped further nurse
him along until he was eventually able to walk by himself. --Faith of
My Fathers by John McCain
McCain, Day and Overly, were relocated (early January 1968) to
"another end of the camp, a place we called 'the Corn Crib.'" A group
of "obviously senior" Communist Party members visited and talked with
McCain. --Faith of My Fathers by John McCain
Overly was offered and he accepted early release. He was released
February 16. --Faith of My Fathers by John McCain
Overly was released with David Matheny and John Black. "They were the
first three POW's to be released by the North Vietnamese." U.S. News
and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John
McCain
In March, Day was "relocated" to another cell.--Faith of My Fathers by
John McCain. A month later, McCain was "moved into another building,
the largest cell block in the camp, 'the Warehouse.'" Day was moved to
another prison (the Zoo). McCain began solitary confinement.--Faith of
My Fathers by John McCain
For nearly two years, McCain's communist handlers kept him isolated
from other U.S. prisoners. Because they considered him a "special
prisoner," McCain became the target of intense indoctrination and
psychological programs the communists had perfected during the Korean
War.
The communists were very much aware that POW McCain would be under
great psychological pressure not to do or say anything that would
tarnish his famous military family and they considered that to be the
key to eventually breaking and then "turning" him. McCain's handlers
kept meticulous records of his behavior, including his personal
strengths, weaknesses and any special favors he may have accepted
while under the pressure of isolation.
McCain's interrogators considered him a "special prisoner." They
believed that because he came from a "royal family," he would, when
finally released, return to the United States to some important
military or government job.
Because he was kept isolated from other U.S. prisoners during these
years of captivity, no one, except McCain and his captors, know
exactly to what he was subjected or how he responded. Most information
in the public record detailing McCain's experience with the North
Vietnamese during this time frame came from McCain and McCain only.
"In May of 1968, I [McCain] was interviewed by two North Vietnamese
generals at separate times." U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973
article written by former POW John McCain
McCain claimed (page 133 of The Nightingale's Song, by Robert Timberg)
that he was first offered early release (parole) in late June, 1968.
He said that after months of interrogation he was "summoned" to a room
that had soft chairs and a glass table on which were "cookies, a pot
of tea, and cigarettes."
He said "Major Bai, known to the prisoners as the Cat," was waiting
for him. He said "a second Vietnamese known as the Rabbit, stood by to
serve as translator."
McCain said that as he "helped himself" to the cookies, tea and
cigarettes, the Cat began speaking through the translator. He said
they talked about "his father, other members of his family, the war."
McCain said that after about two of talk, the Cat asked him if he
wanted to be released. The Cat, according to McCain, told him to go
back to his cell and think about it.--The Nightingale's Song.
McCain said that three nights later the Cat sent for him and again
asked him if he wanted to go home. McCain said he answered No. --The
Nightingale's Song
A week later, according to McCain, he was taken to a room in which the
camp commander, who the prisoners had nicknamed Slopehead, was
waiting. McCain said ten guards and an interrogator nicked named The
Prick was also in the room. --The Nightingale's Song
McCain said the guards charged into him beating and kicking him until
he 'lay on the floor, bloody, arms and legs throbbing, ribs cracked,
several teeth broken off at the gumline." The Vietnamese, according to
McCain, wanted him to confess to being a "black criminal." --The
Nightingale's Song
McCain said he was next introduced for the first time to the "torture
ropes." He said the torture went on for several days before he broke
and agreed to write and sign a confession that he was a "black
criminal." McCain said that he was moved to another building away from
the other POWs. --The Nightingale's Song
McCain said (page 136) that he was so distraught because he had signed
the statement that he attempted suicide but was stopped when a guard
burst into the room. --The Nightingale's Song
In August 1968, other POWs learned for the first time that John McCain
had been taken prisoner (page 137) after Charlie Plumb and Kay Russell
figured out that the "mystery" prisoner in a neighboring cell is
McCain. --The Nightingale's Song
A September 13, 1968, cable from Averell Harriman, U.S. ambassador-at-
large, to the State Department confirmed that McCain's captors had
offered him early release, but that he had refused. The cable reported
that, according to the Vietnamese, "Commander McCain feared that if he
was released before the war is over, President [Lyndon] Johnson might
'cause difficulties' for his father because people will wonder if
McCain had been brainwashed." Harriman speculated that instead, McCain
was abiding by the Code of Conduct.-- The Phoenix New Times March 25,
1999
June 1969 - "Reds Say PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral. . . Hanoi
has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of United States
Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to
having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical
treatment he has received since being taken prisoner." New York Daily
News, June 5, 1969
"The English-Language broadcast beamed at South Vietnam was one of a
series using American prisoners. It was in response to a plea by
Defense Secretary Melvin S. Laird, May 19, that North Vietnam treat
prisoners according to the humanitarian standards set forth by the
Geneva Convention." The Washington Post
In December, McCain was moved out of "The Plantation" and into a "one
man cell" in the "Hanoi Hilton.". On Christmas Eve, McCain chatted
with the Cat. They talked about McCain refusing early release. --The
Nightingale's Song
"There was pressure to see American antiwar delegations, which seemed
to increase as the time went on. But, there wasn't any torture.
In January 1970, I [McCain] was taken to a quiz with 'The Cat.' He
told me that he wanted me to see a foreign guest." U.S. News and World
Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
A declassified DOD document reports an interview between POW McCain
and Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist who was living in Cuba
at the time. The interview was published in the Havana Granma in
January 1970.
According to the DOD report, the meeting between Barral and McCain
(which was photographed by the Vietnamese) took place away from the
prison at the office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations
in Hanoi. During the meeting, POW McCain sipped coffee and ate oranges
and cakes with his interrogator.
While talking with Barral, McCain seriously violated the military Code
of Conduct by failing to evade answering questions "to the utmost" of
his ability when he, according to the DOD report, helped Barral by
answering questions in Spanish, a language McCain had learned in
school.
1973 - McCain was released from the Hilton on March 15, 1973.
Two Former POWs Say They Doubt McCain Was Physically Abused
1999 - March 25, 1999, The Phoenix New Times: Ted Guy and Gordon
"Swede" Larson, two former POWs, who were McCain's senior ranking
officers (SRO's), at the time McCain says he was tortured in solitary
confinement, told the New Times that while they could not guarantee
that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it.
"Between the two of us, it's our belief, and to the best of our
knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that
camp [known as "The Plantation"]," Larson says. ". . . My only
contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The
Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted's knowledge, he was
not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the
camp that people were released from."
In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the
Vietnamese not to make public the records they hold pertaining to
returned U.S. POWs.
James Of Tucson
> 1973 - McCain was released from the Hilton on March 15, 1973.
Well, I guess there was something, that in some way, passed for good
news.
So... you don't support Senator McCain's bid for President, I gather.
What of it?
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
Mccain robbed the people of arizona, with the help of Charles Keating,
Do you support Mccain ripping off of Arizonians?? What of it James??
Chris West
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Also involved the Bush family.
OneTwoThree
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so why is it that the DEM controlled senate took no action against him?
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