A bit of irony re Buddy Ebsen:
DanL9462
He was originally cast to play the Tinman in the Wizard of Oz, but got very ill
(and almost died) because of the makeup he wore. Because of this, he was
"fired" and Jack Haley acquried the role instead.
The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
Just some food for thought. . ..
G I L L I G A N
A few of the Munchkins are still around and doing well.
DanL9462 wrote in message <19990419002522...@ng-ca1.aol.com>...
Brad Ferguson
(DanL9462) wrote:
> A bit of irony re Buddy Ebsen:
>
> He was originally cast to play the Tinman in the Wizard of Oz, but got very
ill
> (and almost died) because of the makeup he wore. Because of this, he was
> "fired" and Jack Haley acquried the role instead.
>
> The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
>
> Just some food for thought. . ..
IIRC, they used aluminum powder on Ebsen, which entered his system and made
him very ill. They used aluminum paste on Haley, which was much more
stable. Haley probably would have gotten as sick as Ebsen if they'd used
the powder on him, too.
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lokiSP...@midtown.net
wrote:
>On 19 Apr 1999 04:25:22 GMT, danl...@aol.com (DanL9462) wrote:
>
>>A bit of irony re Buddy Ebsen:
>>
>>He was originally cast to play the Tinman in the Wizard of Oz, but got very ill
>>(and almost died) because of the makeup he wore. Because of this, he was
>>"fired" and Jack Haley acquried the role instead.
>>
>>The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
>
>I believe the rest of the story goes that Jack Haley was originally
>cast to be the Scarecrow, and his re-casting as the Tin Man opened up
>the Scarecrow role for Ray Bolger.
Close... I do not remember all the details, but as I recall it Ray
Bolger was cast as the Tin Man after Ebsen left. However, having
fallen in love with the silent version of Wizard Of Oz, and especially
the part of the scarecrow, when he signed with MGM he had stipulated
in his contract that should the movie ever be remade he would have the
right of first refusal on that role.
Loki
Louis Epstein
: In article <19990419002522...@ng-ca1.aol.com> , danl...@aol.com
: (DanL9462) wrote:
:
: > A bit of irony re Buddy Ebsen:
: >
: > He was originally cast to play the Tinman in the Wizard of Oz, but got very
: > ill
: > (and almost died) because of the makeup he wore. Because of this, he was
: > "fired" and Jack Haley acquried the role instead.
: >
: > The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
: > Just some food for thought. . ..
:
:
: IIRC, they used aluminum powder on Ebsen, which entered his system and made
: him very ill. They used aluminum paste on Haley, which was much more
: stable. Haley probably would have gotten as sick as Ebsen if they'd used
: the powder on him, too.
I have seen it said that ORIGINALLY Ebsen was cast as the Scarecrow and
Ray Bolger as the TinMan,but Bolger begged and pleaded to switch roles
until he got his way.
Sam Yorko
>
> The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
>
by children.
Sam
Brad Ferguson
<JOATno...@compuserve.com> wrote:
A surprising number were. Having the movie on tape allows you to see this.
Sometime in the 1980s one of the wire services said that the last Munchkin
had died, and so we dutifully reported this on the radio. Well, we
immediately began getting calls in the newsroom from Munchkins, some of them
speaking in little, squeaky voices. I don't think Jerry Marin (probably the
most prominent survivor) called, but we heard from six or seven others. It
was absolutely, wonderfully bizarre, and I'm glad I didn't miss it.
Amanda
>
> On 20 Apr 1999 00:13:48 GMT, danl...@aol.com (DanL9462) wrote:
>
> >One of the munchkins who is standing next to the munchkin with the lollipop was
> >Jackie Cooper (a child actor at the time).
>
> I didn't know that!
>
> This is kind of the same thing only a little
> different but did you know that the songwriter
> in Rear Window was Ross Bagdasarian/David Seville
> of Chipmunks's fame?
>
> They should have had him playing a tiny bit
> of something by the Chipmunks but I guess
> Alfred Hitchcock didn't want him to.
That is so cool!
--
"Sexy in a Raphaelesqe under-grad Banana Republic sort of way."
-- Will Durst
DanL9462
Lisa Fremont
>One of the munchkins who is standing next to the munchkin with the lollipop was
>Jackie Cooper (a child actor at the time).
I didn't know that!
Louis Epstein
: DanL9462 wrote:
: >
: > The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
: >
: This will be news to Betty Ann Bruno; some of the Munchkins were played
: by children.
:
: Sam
Meinhard Raabe is still on dead pool lists...but no Munchkin was
considered a leading player.
Lisa Fremont
wrote:
>That is so cool!
>--
>"Sexy in a Raphaelesqe under-grad Banana Republic sort of way."
> -- Will Durst
That doesn't sound like something either Will or Ariel
would have said.
JD
>>"Sexy in a Raphaelesqe under-grad Banana Republic sort of way."
>That doesn't sound like something either Will or Ariel
>would have said.
Will Durst invented the Durst shifter for hot rods before changing his
name to Will Durst and becoming a comedian in San Francisco hot rod
clubs.
You're thinking of Will Rogers and Ariel Hemmingway who were
folksingers in the 30s in Oklahoma, lived under a bridge and ate lots
of goat before changing their names to Will Crusher and Mariette
Hartley and becoming hosts on morning network television.
HTH. HAND.
Lisa Fremont
>LisaF...@telepath.com (Lisa Fremont) wrote:
>
>>>"Sexy in a Raphaelesqe under-grad Banana Republic sort of way."
>
>>That doesn't sound like something either Will or Ariel
>>would have said.
>
>Will Durst invented the Durst shifter for hot rods before changing his
>name to Will Durst and becoming a comedian in San Francisco hot rod
>clubs.
Oh.
>You're thinking of Will Rogers and Ariel Hemmingway who were
>folksingers in the 30s in Oklahoma, lived under a bridge and ate lots
>of goat before changing their names to Will Crusher and Mariette
>Hartley and becoming hosts on morning network television.
>
Oh that's right :)
Thanks! :)
I remember him now because of the turnpike.
EVARNER1
>Meinhard Raabe is still on dead pool lists...but no Munchkin was
>considered a leading player.
What part did he play?
ED
Louis Epstein
: >From: l...@put.com (Louis Epstein)
:
: >Meinhard Raabe is still on dead pool lists...but no Munchkin was
: >considered a leading player.
:
:
: What part did he play?
Munchkin Coroner.
: ED
Sam Yorko
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:39:54 -0800, Sam Yorko, Sam Yorko
> <JOATno...@compuserve.com> , sent message
> #<371B6A...@compuserve.com> to alt.obituaries to say this about
> Re: A bit of irony re Buddy Ebsen::
>
> >DanL9462 wrote:
> >>
> >> The irony here is that Buddy Ebsen outlived the rest of the cast. . .
> >>
> >This will be news to Betty Ann Bruno; some of the Munchkins were played
> >by children.
>
> adults with growth deficiencies. I heard of no children, so to speak,
> within the group younger than their teens. Do you have any examples,
> names?
>
I already gave one: Betty Ann Bruno. She was only about 8 at the time;
she was a reporter for KTVU here in the SF Bay Area until she just
retired. If you go into those horrible autograph places in
Disneyland/Disneyworld and see a framed picture with an autograph of an
actual munchkin, it's usually her autograph.
Sam
Meaning Sub-Editor 8734
>
> One of the munchkins who is standing next to the munchkin with the lollipop was
> Jackie Cooper (a child actor at the time).
I doubt this. According to the IMDb, Cooper was born in 1921, while The
Wizard of Oz was released in 1939.
Dean Schaefer
Meaning Sub-Editor 8734 wrote in message <371D1A...@thewheel.net>...
check the facts before pronouncing claims like this. Someone might actually
believe you.
Deano
Brad Ferguson
<Dean...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
The Jackie Cooper thing is widely believed because one of the Lollipop Kids
does look quite a bit like him. But it's not him.
Amanda
Thanks for the clarification...I think.
By the way, this particular Durst quote was his description of Monica
Lewinsky from many months ago. I like it. I like Durst.
-Amanda
--
"Sexy in a Raphaelesqe under-grad Banana Republic sort of way."
-- Will Durst