VH1 top 100 artists?
Nic Caciappo
NO YES!!!!!!
In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
1.xx The BEATLES
2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
3.xx Jimi Hendrix
4.xx Led Zeppelin
5. Bob Dylan
6. James Brown
7. David Bowie
8.xx Elvis Presley
9.xx The Who
10. The Police
11. Stevie Wonder
12. Ray Charles
13.xx The Beach Boys
14.xx Marvin Gaye
15. Eric Clapton
16.xx John Lennon
17. Elton John
18. Prince
19. Pink Floyd
20.xx The Doors
21. Aretha Franklin(awesome filling in for Pavarotti at Grammys)
22. Fleetwood Mac
23. The Eagles
24.xx Bob Marley
25. Van Morrison
26. Chuck Berry
27. Bruce Springsteen
28. Sly & The Family Stone
29. U2
30. Neil Young
31. The Clash
32. Joni Mitchell
33.xx Queen
34.xx Buddy Holly
35.xx Otis Redding
36. Little Richard
37. Al Green
38. Elvis Costello
39.xx Miles Davis
40. Michael Jackson
41.xx Janis Joplin
42.xx Nirvana (can you believe it?)
43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
44. Jackson 5
45. Crosby Stills & Nash
46.xx Sex Pistols
47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
48. Van Halen
49.xx Roy Orbison
50. R E M
51. B B King
52. Cream
53. PETER GABRIEL !!!! YEA!!!!!
54.xx The Grateful Dead
55.xx The Byrds
56. The Kinks
57. Steely Dan (not Yes?)
58.xx Sam Cooke
59. Bo Diddley
60. Earth Wind & Fire
61. Smokey Robinson
62. Paul McCartney
63. Sting
64.xx Frank Zappa
65. James Taylor
66. Talking Heads
67. Kiss
68.xx Allman Bros
69. Pretenders (not Yes?)
70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
71. Rod Stewart
72. Simon & Garfunkel
73.xx Muddy Waters
74. The Velvet Underground (not Yes?)
75. Curtis Mayfield
76. The Bee Gees
77.xx John Coltrane
78. Billy Joel (stop it you're killing me!)
79. Aerosmith (not Yes?)
80. Tina Turner
81. The Band
82. Devo (brother...)
83. Iggy Pop (not Yes? it gets worse too!)
84.xx T-Rex (please, Bang a Gong)
85. Carole King
86. Madonna
87. Santana
88. Ramones
89. Johnny Cash
90. Tom Waits (no Joe Cocker?)
91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
92.xx The Temptations
93.xx The Four Tops
94. Diana Ross & The Supremes (how is Motown at the bottom?)
95.xx Robert Johnson
96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)
97.xx Fats Domino
98. Traffic
99. Parliment-Funkadelic (no Prince?)
100. Paul Simon
No YES
No Genesis
No Emerson Lake & Palmer
No King Crimson
I don't buy into this crap. Record company suits must have bought into
VH-1 time. Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
didn't. While Madonna made it, Prince didn't. And the biggest goof of
all.... YES didn't. How many musicians or artists have some of you met
and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
Edge in their collections? Many many do. Okay, so VH-1 polled the
current or recent artists that have air play on the network.... just
another reason why I don't listen to it.
I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
Nic
(PS: the "xx" = dead artist or dead members of group, which helps if you
wanna be a classic influential legendary artist.)
Snnrissrvd
>Subject: VH1 top 100 artists?
>From: Nic Caciappo
>No YES
>No Genesis
>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>No King Crimson
>
I'm surprised about Yes and especially Genesis, considering Genesis' long
winning streak starting in the late 70's and ending in the mid 90's.
>Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
>didn't.
Well, you have to admit that Nirvana was more influential in the 90's than
Pearl Jam has been. Not by much, but Nirvana & Kurt Cobain were *thee* band
from 91'-94' and probably still would be today.
>While Madonna made it, Prince didn't.
Your list shows that Prince did make it.
> How many musicians or artists have some of you met
>and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
>Edge in their collections?
I've met a lot of musicians and artists who loved those albums but in
mainstream papers and journals, Yes have never been mentioned as much as say
the Stones, the beatles, elton john, billy joel, even the velvet underground
and lyrnyrd skynyrd I've seen mentioned more than Yes. this is just my
observation.
> actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
I own about 280 CD's and I own CD's from 23 of the artists. There are some
truly head-scratching choices (Devo(!), Traffic (over Yes or Rush? maybe i live
a sheltered life but i've never met anyone who told me they were a "big Traffic
fan"), The Pretenders (guess they had to include some "female"-lead band but
take Yes' most popular song "Roundabout" and compare it to The Pretender's most
popular song, "Back on the Chain Gang" and it's no comparison).
Kevin
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Jim Dornberger
Nic Caciappo wrote:
>
> 18. Prince
> While Madonna made it, Prince didn't.
Read closer, Nic.
Jim D.
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>The results went
>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
It's easier to list the ones I *don't* have. I also didn't count
random songs that appear on compilation tapes.
>14.xx Marvin Gaye
>24.xx Bob Marley
>28. Sly & The Family Stone
>31. The Clash
>37. Al Green
>41.xx Janis Joplin
>44. Jackson 5
>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>61. Smokey Robinson
>64.xx Frank Zappa
>67. Kiss
>75. Curtis Mayfield
>76. The Bee Gees
>78. Billy Joel
>80. Tina Turner [I have some early stuff with Ike, none of the later solo albums]
>83. Iggy Pop
>84.xx T-Rex
>88. Ramones
>90. Tom Waits
>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd
>99. Parliment-Funkadelic
>I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
I'm missing 21 out of 100. Of course, this doesn't mean I routinely
play and enjoy the other 79 artists. ;)
The Giotto Lady
John Hopkins
Nic Caciappo wrote:
>
> NO YES!!!!!!
>
> In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
> regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
> stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
> like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
That's always fun, but I'm adding vinyl in here (noted by !, comments in
brackets)--
>
!> 1.xx The BEATLES
!> 2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
!> 3.xx Jimi Hendrix
!> 4.xx Led Zeppelin
> 5. Bob Dylan
!> 6. James Brown
!> 7. David Bowie
> 8.xx Elvis Presley
!> 9.xx The Who
!> 10. The Police
> 11. Stevie Wonder
> 12. Ray Charles
> 13.xx The Beach Boys
> 14.xx Marvin Gaye
!> 15. Eric Clapton
!> 16.xx John Lennon
!> 17. Elton John
!> 18. Prince
!> 19. Pink Floyd
!> 20.xx The Doors
> 21. Aretha Franklin(awesome filling in for Pavarotti at Grammys)
> 22. Fleetwood Mac
> 23. The Eagles
!> 24.xx Bob Marley
!> 25. Van Morrison
!> 26. Chuck Berry
> 27. Bruce Springsteen
> 28. Sly & The Family Stone
> 29. U2
!> 30. Neil Young
!> 31. The Clash
> 32. Joni Mitchell
!> 33.xx Queen
!> 34.xx Buddy Holly
> 35.xx Otis Redding
!> 36. Little Richard
> 37. Al Green
!> 38. Elvis Costello
!> 39.xx Miles Davis
> 40. Michael Jackson
> 41.xx Janis Joplin
> 42.xx Nirvana (can you believe it?)
!> 43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
> 44. Jackson 5
> 45. Crosby Stills & Nash
!> 46.xx Sex Pistols
!> 47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
!> 48. Van Halen
> 49.xx Roy Orbison
!> 50. R E M
!> 51. B B King
!> 52. Cream
!> 53. PETER GABRIEL !!!! YEA!!!!!
[actually not too surprising, IMO]
> 54.xx The Grateful Dead
> 55.xx The Byrds
!> 56. The Kinks
> 57. Steely Dan (not Yes?)
> 58.xx Sam Cooke
> 59. Bo Diddley
> 60. Earth Wind & Fire
> 61. Smokey Robinson
> 62. Paul McCartney
> 63. Sting
!> 64.xx Frank Zappa
[I think the only reason he's on the list is because he's dead]
> 65. James Taylor
!> 66. Talking Heads
!> 67. Kiss
!> 68.xx Allman Bros
!> 69. Pretenders (not Yes?)
[I blinked at this one, too]
!> 70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
!> 71. Rod Stewart
> 72. Simon & Garfunkel
!> 73.xx Muddy Waters
!> 74. The Velvet Underground (not Yes?)
[I think they influenced the *critics* more than anybody else]
> 75. Curtis Mayfield
> 76. The Bee Gees
> 77.xx John Coltrane
> 78. Billy Joel (stop it you're killing me!)
[LOL!]
!> 79. Aerosmith (not Yes?)
> 80. Tina Turner
!> 81. The Band
!> 82. Devo (brother...)
!> 83. Iggy Pop (not Yes? it gets worse too!)
> 84.xx T-Rex (please, Bang a Gong)
> 85. Carole King
> 86. Madonna
!> 87. Santana
!> 88. Ramones
> 89. Johnny Cash
!> 90. Tom Waits (no Joe Cocker?)
> 91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
!> 92.xx The Temptations
> 93.xx The Four Tops
> 94. Diana Ross & The Supremes (how is Motown at the bottom?)
!> 95.xx Robert Johnson
!> 96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)[excellent question]
> 97.xx Fats Domino
> 98. Traffic
!> 99. Parliment-Funkadelic (no Prince?)
!> 100. Paul Simon
>
> No YES
> No Genesis
> No Emerson Lake & Palmer
> No King Crimson
No Deep Purple despite nearly every guitarist getting their first
callouses on the 'Smoke' riff.
> I don't buy into this crap.
[snip]
Me either. Reminds me of Hall of Fame partisanship.
> I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
> artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
> Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
Well, I envy your CD collection. =} My vinyl only runs somewhere between
1500-1700.
> Nic
> (PS: the "xx" = dead artist or dead members of group, which helps if you
> wanna be a classic influential legendary artist.)
Oh! I thought you were marking off the ones you own. Never mind. =}
Yers,
John
Paul Hightower
Well, at least we can take some satisfaction in punk's waning
popularity (replaced by roots R&B it seems). I recall the Rolling
Stone Top 100 Most Important Albums Of All Time or some such drivel
about 10 years ago and The Sex Pistols' debut was No. 2 or 3, I
recall. Here, it's somewhere in the 40s. Bwah hah hah!!!
Also, who is VH1 playing lots of now? I'd bet it's Celine Dion,
Babyface, et al. Hence, the larger than usual amount of 50s and 60s
R&B and blues pioneers. When have you ever seen Robert Johnson on one
of these lists before? And Al Green?
Yes will only appear on one of these lists when progressive rock
becomes the fad du jour (and I ain't holdin' my breath!)
Paul
MWoooo
>
>@1.xx The BEATLES
>2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
>@4.xx Led Zeppelin
>5. Bob Dylan
>6. James Brown
>@7. David Bowie
>8.xx Elvis Presley
>@9.xx The Who
>@10. The Police
>11. Stevie Wonder
>12. Ray Charles
>13.xx The Beach Boys
>14.xx Marvin Gaye
>16.xx John Lennon
>@17. Elton John
>@18. Prince
>@19. Pink Floyd
>20.xx The Doors
>21. Aretha Franklin(awesome filling in for Pavarotti at Grammys)
>22. Fleetwood Mac
>23. The Eagles
>25. Van Morrison
>27. Bruce Springsteen
>28. Sly & The Family Stone
>@30. Neil Young
>31. The Clash
>32. Joni Mitchell
>34.xx Buddy Holly
>35.xx Otis Redding
>37. Al Green
>@39.xx Miles Davis
>40. Michael Jackson
>41.xx Janis Joplin
>43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
>44. Jackson 5
>45. Crosby Stills & Nash
>47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
>49.xx Roy Orbison
>@50. R E M
>51. B B King
>52. Cream
>@54.xx The Grateful Dead
>55.xx The Byrds
>56. The Kinks
>@57. Steely Dan (not Yes?)
>58.xx Sam Cooke
>59. Bo Diddley
>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>61. Smokey Robinson
>@63. Sting
>@64.xx Frank Zappa
>65. James Taylor
>@66. Talking Heads
>@67. Kiss
>@68.xx Allman Bros
>69. Pretenders (not Yes?)
>@70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
>71. Rod Stewart
>72. Simon & Garfunkel
>74. The Velvet Underground (not Yes?)
>76. The Bee Gees
>77.xx John Coltrane
>@79. Aerosmith (not Yes?)
>80. Tina Turner
>81. The Band
>@82. Devo (brother...)
>83. Iggy Pop (not Yes? it gets worse too!)
>84.xx T-Rex (please, Bang a Gong)
>85. Carole King
>86. Madonna
>88. Ramones
>89. Johnny Cash
>91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
>93.xx The Four Tops
>94. Diana Ross & The Supremes (how is Motown at the bottom?)
>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)
>98. Traffic
>100. Paul Simon
>
>
29 out of 100...and my CD collection stands at 1740 as of now....Im going out
after work to purchase some more.
J. Mcglinchey
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Nic Caciappo wrote:
> In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
> regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
> stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
>
> 1.xx The BEATLES
> 2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
> 3.xx Jimi Hendrix
> 4.xx Led Zeppelin
> 5. Bob Dylan
Thank goodness! It's great to see, after all this time, these artists are
finally getting the recognition they deserve!!! You don't know how long
I've waited for a special feature on The Beatles!!!!!
;)
Joe M.
U of Washington
Chester Klock
Well' if they didn't recognise YES, then the list is bullshit. Did
the list come from the Pentagon?
Chet Klock
The Time Traveler
Arcata, Humboldt (Calif.)
Bill Hammell
Nic Caciappo wrote in message <352083...@earthlink.net>...
>NO YES!!!!!!
>In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
>regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
>stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
>artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
(comments in parenthesis mine)
*****1.xx The BEATLES (really into these guys recently)
2.xx Rolling Stones
*****3.xx Jimi Hendrix (just Smash Hits)
4.xx Led Zeppelin
5. Bob Dylan
6. James Brown
7. David Bowie
8.xx Elvis Presley
9.xx The Who
10. The Police
*****11. Stevie Wonder (got 2 of em')
12. Ray Charles
*****13.xx The Beach Boys (Pet Sounds)
14.xx Marvin Gaye
15. Eric Clapton
16.xx John Lennon
17. Elton John
18. Prince
*****19. Pink Floyd (got them all)
20.xx The Doors
21. Aretha Franklin
22. Fleetwood Mac
23. The Eagles
24.xx Bob Marley
25. Van Morrison
26. Chuck Berry
27. Bruce Springsteen
28. Sly & The Family Stone
29. U2
30. Neil Young
31. The Clash
32. Joni Mitchell
33.xx Queen
34.xx Buddy Holly
35.xx Otis Redding
36. Little Richard
37. Al Green
38. Elvis Costello
39.xx Miles Davis
40. Michael Jackson
41.xx Janis Joplin
42.xx Nirvana
43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
44. Jackson 5
45. Crosby Stills & Nash
46.xx Sex Pistols
47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
*****48. Van Halen (only the latest one)
49.xx Roy Orbison
50. R E M
51. B B King
52. Cream
*****53. Peter Gabriel (Genesis is better)
54.xx The Grateful Dead
55.xx The Byrds
56. The Kinks
57. Steely Dan
58.xx Sam Cooke
59. Bo Diddley
60. Earth Wind & Fire
61. Smokey Robinson
*****62. Paul McCartney (some good solo stuff, but best work w/ Fab 4)
63. Sting
64.xx Frank Zappa
65. James Taylor
66. Talking Heads
67. Kiss
68.xx Allman Bros
69. Pretenders
70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
71. Rod Stewart
72. Simon & Garfunkel
73.xx Muddy Waters
74. The Velvet Underground
75. Curtis Mayfield
76. The Bee Gees
77.xx John Coltrane
78. Billy Joel
79. Aerosmith
80. Tina Turner
81. The Band
82. Devo
83. Iggy Pop
84.xx T-Rex
85. Carole King
86. Madonna
87. Santana
88. Ramones
89. Johnny Cash
90. Tom Waits
91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
92.xx The Temptations
93.xx The Four Tops
94. Diana Ross & The Supremes
95.xx Robert Johnson
96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd
97.xx Fats Domino
*****98. Traffic (just one CD)
99. Parliment-Funkadelic
100. Paul Simon
>No YES
>No Genesis
>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>No King Crimson
Not surprising in the least.
>I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
I have probably close to that amount of discs, and I only have CD's by *9*
of the artists listed. Even *12* is probably a high number for us "progrock"
fans.
Bill
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Henry Potts
Nic Caciappo <nic...@earthlink.net> writes [...]
>In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
>regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
>stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
>artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
Thanks, Nic, for typing this all out!
>1.xx The Beatles
>2.xx Rolling Stones
>3.xx Jimi Hendrix
>4.xx Led Zeppelin
>5. Bob Dylan
>6. James Brown
>7. David Bowie
>8.xx Elvis Presley
>9.xx The Who
>10. The Police
>11. Stevie Wonder
>12. Ray Charles
>13.xx The Beach Boys
>14.xx Marvin Gaye
>15. Eric Clapton
>16.xx John Lennon
>17. Elton John
>18. Prince
>19. Pink Floyd
>48. Van Halen
>49.xx Roy Orbison
>50. R E M
>51. B B King
>52. Cream
>53. Peter Gabriel
>54.xx The Grateful Dead
>55.xx The Byrds
>56. The Kinks
>57. Steely Dan
>58.xx Sam Cooke
>59. Bo Diddley
>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>61. Smokey Robinson
>62. Paul McCartney
>98. Traffic
>99. Parliament-Funkadelic
>100. Paul Simon
>
>No YES
>No Genesis
>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>No King Crimson
>
>I don't buy into this crap. Record company suits must have bought into
>VH-1 time. Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
>didn't. While Madonna made it, Prince didn't. And the biggest goof of
>all.... YES didn't. How many musicians or artists have some of you met
>and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
>Edge in their collections? Many many do. Okay, so VH-1 polled the
>current or recent artists that have air play on the network.... just
>another reason why I don't listen to it. [...]
>(PS: the "xx" = dead artist or dead members of group, which helps if you
>wanna be a classic influential legendary artist.)
I think this merely proves what I've said before in a recent thread on
r.m.p., that musicians' tastes are pretty much like anyone else's. The
idea that prog, while not popular with the masses, is enjoyed more by
musicians -- that most musicians would cite prog as an influence, as
someone suggested on r.m.p. -- is simply not true.
--
Henry
NP: S t e v e H o w e , _ H o m e b r e w _
Nic Caciappo
Jim Dornberger wrote:
>
> Nic Caciappo wrote:
> >
> > 18. Prince
>
>
>
> Jim D.
Thanks Jim... that's what I get for having a Guinness while typing this
out! o O
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Nic Caciappo <nic...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>NO YES!!!!!!
>
>In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
>regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
>stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
>artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
*vinyl, **CD, ***both
>
>1.xx The BEATLES***
>2.xx Rolling Stones***
>3.xx Jimi Hendrix***
>4.xx Led Zeppelin***
>5. Bob Dylan***
>6. James Brown
>7. David Bowie***
>8.xx Elvis Presley*
>9.xx The Who***
>10. The Police***
>11. Stevie Wonder***
>12. Ray Charles*
>13.xx The Beach Boys***
>14.xx Marvin Gaye*
>15. Eric Clapton***
>16.xx John Lennon***
>17. Elton John***
>18. Prince***
>19. Pink Floyd***
>20.xx The Doors*
>21. Aretha Franklin*
>22. Fleetwood Mac***
>23. The Eagles
>24.xx Bob Marley***
>25. Van Morrison***
>26. Chuck Berry
>27. Bruce Springsteen***
>28. Sly & The Family Stone (Boxing Ghandis?)
>29. U2***
>30. Neil Young***
>31. The Clash (B.A.D.?)
>32. Joni Mitchell***
>33.xx Queen**
>34.xx Buddy Holly
>35.xx Otis Redding*
>36. Little Richard
>37. Al Green
>38. Elvis Costello**
>39.xx Miles Davis
>40. Michael Jackson**
>41.xx Janis Joplin
>42.xx Nirvana
>43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers**
>44. Jackson 5*
>45. Crosby Stills & Nash***
>46.xx Sex Pistols
>47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
>48. Van Halen***
>49.xx Roy Orbison (Wilbury's?)
>50. R E M***
>51. B B King
>52. Cream*
>53. PETER GABRIEL***
>54.xx The Grateful Dead***
>55.xx The Byrds***
>56. The Kinks
>57. Steely Dan***
>58.xx Sam Cooke
>59. Bo Diddley
>60. Earth Wind & Fire*
>61. Smokey Robinson*
>62. Paul McCartney**
>63. Sting**
>64.xx Frank Zappa*
>65. James Taylor***
>66. Talking Heads***
>67. Kiss
>68.xx Allman Bros***
>69. Pretenders***
>70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
>71. Rod Stewart*
>72. Simon & Garfunkel*
>73.xx Muddy Waters
>74. The Velvet Underground
>75. Curtis Mayfield
>76. The Bee Gees***
>77.xx John Coltrane
>78. Billy Joel
>79. Aerosmith
>80. Tina Turner**
>81. The Band***
>82. Devo
>83. Iggy Pop
>84.xx T-Rex
>85. Carole King*
>86. Madonna
>87. Santana***
>88. Ramones
>89. Johnny Cash
>90. Tom Waits
>91. Gladys Knight & The Pips*
>92.xx The Temptations*
>93.xx The Four Tops*
>94. Diana Ross & The Supremes*
>95.xx Robert Johnson
>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd*
>97.xx Fats Domino
>98. Traffic***
>99. Parliment-Funkadelic
>100. Paul Simon***
>
>No YES
>No Genesis
>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>No King Crimson
Really when you think about "influential to today's rock", "prog" really
doesn't show up very much. When you think about the 4 names above, it's hard
to imagine that they're not "influential". Certainly, you'd think the "top
two" would be somewhere in the "top 100". Then again you could argue that they
hardly seem to have "influenced" themselves, let alone anyone else.
Rob Allen
diane197
In article <352083...@earthlink.net>, nic...@earthlink.net wrote:
> NO YES!!!!!!
>
Bummer. I agree.
> In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
> regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
> stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
> artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently[...]
> I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
> artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
> Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
>
I've got 41; well over half if you count singles and compilation songs. I'm
going to do something *different* for you here and list the titles of them,
in alpha order-- on the off chance that for you, like me, sometimes the
album title gets burned in memory more than the artist. Where I have more
than one by the same artist, this list may very loosely include my favorite
(and yeah-- some are records rather than CDs):
461 Ocean Blvd.
Abbey Road
Abraxas
After the Gold Rush
Bayou Country
Blue
Born to Run
Bridge over Troubled Water
Changes One
Dark Side of the Moon
Daylight Again
Supreme's Greatest Hits
Disraeli Gears
Eagles
Eat a Peach
Electric Warrior
Endless Summer
Every Breathe You Take
Every Picture Tells a Story
Honky Chateau
Hot Rocks
Houses of the Holy
John Barleycorn Must Die
Joshua Tree
Main Course
Negotiations and Love Songs
Pretzel Logic
Private Dancer
Rumours
Sly's Greatest Hits
Soft Parade
Songs in the Key of Life
Standing Stone
The Stranger
Sweet Baby James
Byrds' Greatest Hits
Tapestry
Them (I'm cheating...)
Thriller
Tommy
_Eve_ Interactive CD-ROM (ok, I'm cheating again, but with all that Genesis
too, I deserve this one)
Apart for a few I could do without, that list doesn't look too bad to me,
Nic. :)
Charles McGarry
I have exactly 90 out of the 100 on this list. So obviously. I don't
disagree with their taste much. If I were rating the 100 "greatest"
musical acts of the second half of the 20th Century, I'd probably knock
20-30 off the list. (and YES would be added). But the question posed is
the 100 most "influential to today's music." That's a different
question. And I don't hear anyone playing YES-type music these days.
Chas
VH-1 will soon have a special
>regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays
rock
>stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
>artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
>
>1.xx The BEATLES
>2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
>3.xx Jimi Hendrix
>4.xx Led Zeppelin
>5. Bob Dylan
>6. James Brown
>7. David Bowie
>8.xx Elvis Presley
>9.xx The Who
>10. The Police
>11. Stevie Wonder
>12. Ray Charles
>13.xx The Beach Boys
>14.xx Marvin Gaye
>15. Eric Clapton
>16.xx John Lennon
>17. Elton John
>18. Prince
>19. Pink Floyd
>20.xx The Doors
>21. Aretha Franklin(awesome filling in for Pavarotti at Grammys)
>22. Fleetwood Mac
>23. The Eagles
>24.xx Bob Marley
>25. Van Morrison
>26. Chuck Berry
>27. Bruce Springsteen
>28. Sly & The Family Stone
>29. U2
>30. Neil Young
>31. The Clash
>32. Joni Mitchell
>33.xx Queen
>34.xx Buddy Holly
>35.xx Otis Redding
>36. Little Richard
>37. Al Green
>38. Elvis Costello
>39.xx Miles Davis
>40. Michael Jackson
>41.xx Janis Joplin
>42.xx Nirvana (can you believe it?)
>43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
>44. Jackson 5
>45. Crosby Stills & Nash
>46.xx Sex Pistols
>47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
>48. Van Halen
>49.xx Roy Orbison
>50. R E M
>51. B B King
>52. Cream
>53. PETER GABRIEL !!!! YEA!!!!!
>54.xx The Grateful Dead
>55.xx The Byrds
>56. The Kinks
>57. Steely Dan (not Yes?)
>58.xx Sam Cooke
>59. Bo Diddley
>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>61. Smokey Robinson
>62. Paul McCartney
>63. Sting
>64.xx Frank Zappa
>65. James Taylor
>66. Talking Heads
>67. Kiss
>68.xx Allman Bros
>69. Pretenders (not Yes?)
>70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
>71. Rod Stewart
>72. Simon & Garfunkel
>73.xx Muddy Waters
>74. The Velvet Underground (not Yes?)
>75. Curtis Mayfield
>76. The Bee Gees
>77.xx John Coltrane
>78. Billy Joel (stop it you're killing me!)
>79. Aerosmith (not Yes?)
>80. Tina Turner
>81. The Band
>82. Devo (brother...)
>83. Iggy Pop (not Yes? it gets worse too!)
>84.xx T-Rex (please, Bang a Gong)
>85. Carole King
>86. Madonna
>87. Santana
>88. Ramones
>89. Johnny Cash
>90. Tom Waits (no Joe Cocker?)
>91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
>92.xx The Temptations
>93.xx The Four Tops
>94. Diana Ross & The Supremes (how is Motown at the bottom?)
>95.xx Robert Johnson
>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)
>97.xx Fats Domino
>98. Traffic
>99. Parliment-Funkadelic (no Prince?)
>100. Paul Simon
>
>I don't buy into this crap.
>I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD
collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
>
>Nic
GreyWiz
On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:54:27 +0100, Henry Potts
<he...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk.REMOVE-TO-EMAIL>lithely slinked(?) onto
the soapbox, and clutching the magic bullhorn between two black
forepaws, squalled:
>Nic Caciappo <nic...@earthlink.net> writes [...]
>>In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
>>regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
>>stars. The ballots were sent to more than 600 current musicians or
>>artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
>>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
>
>Thanks, Nic, for typing this all out!
My thanks also...
>
A quick look at the Wiz shelves reveals:
7 by >>1.xx The Beatles
3 by >>2.xx Rolling Stones
4 by >>3.xx Jimi Hendrix
5 by >>4.xx Led Zeppelin
>>5. Bob Dylan
>>6. James Brown
6 by >>7. David Bowie
>>8.xx Elvis Presley
3 by >>9.xx The Who
2 by >>10. The Police
1 by >>11. Stevie Wonder
>>12. Ray Charles
>>13.xx The Beach Boys
1 by >>14.xx Marvin Gaye
2 by >>15. Eric Clapton
3 by >>16.xx John Lennon
2 by >>17. Elton John
>>18. Prince
6 by >>19. Pink Floyd
>>20.xx The Doors
>>21. Aretha Franklin
1 by >>22. Fleetwood Mac
>>23. The Eagles
>>24.xx Bob Marley
2 by >>25. Van Morrison
>>26. Chuck Berry
>>27. Bruce Springsteen
>>28. Sly & The Family Stone
3 by >>29. U2
2 by >>30. Neil Young
>>31. The Clash
>>32. Joni Mitchell
1 by >>33.xx Queen
>>34.xx Buddy Holly
>>35.xx Otis Redding
>>36. Little Richard
>>37. Al Green
3 by >>38. Elvis Costello
>>39.xx Miles Davis
>>40. Michael Jackson
>>41.xx Janis Joplin
>>42.xx Nirvana
1 by >>43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
>>44. Jackson 5
2 by >>45. Crosby Stills & Nash
1 by >>46.xx Sex Pistols
>>47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
>>48. Van Halen
>>49.xx Roy Orbison
4 by >>50. R E M
>>51. B B King
2 by >>52. Cream
7 by >>53. Peter Gabriel
>>54.xx The Grateful Dead
2 by >>55.xx The Byrds
3 by >>56. The Kinks
3 by >>57. Steely Dan
>>58.xx Sam Cooke
>>59. Bo Diddley
>>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>>61. Smokey Robinson
2 by >>62. Paul McCartney
2 by >>63. Sting
2 by >>64.xx Frank Zappa
>>65. James Taylor
3 by >>66. Talking Heads
1 by >>67. Kiss [but that was left behind by a housemate - I swear!]
>>68.xx Allman Bros
1 by >>69. Pretenders
>>70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
2 by >>71. Rod Stewart
>>72. Simon & Garfunkel
>>73.xx Muddy Waters
>>74. The Velvet Underground
>>75. Curtis Mayfield
>>76. The Bee Gees
>>77.xx John Coltrane
2 by >>78. Billy Joel
>>79. Aerosmith
>>80. Tina Turner
>>81. The Band
1 by >>82. Devo
1 by >>83. Iggy Pop
1 by >>84.xx T-Rex
1 by >>85. Carole King
1 by >>86. Madonna
3 by >>87. Santana
>>88. Ramones
>>89. Johnny Cash
1 by >>90. Tom Waits
>>91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
>>92.xx The Temptations
>>93.xx The Four Tops
>>94. Diana Ross & The Supremes
>>95.xx Robert Johnson
>>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd
>>97.xx Fats Domino
2 by >>98. Traffic
>>99. Parliament-Funkadelic
2 by >>100. Paul Simon
>>
>>No YES
>>No Genesis
>>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>>No King Crimson
>>
>>I don't buy into this crap. Record company suits must have bought into
>>VH-1 time. Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
>>didn't. While Madonna made it, Prince didn't. And the biggest goof of
>>all.... YES didn't. How many musicians or artists have some of you met
>>and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
>>Edge in their collections? Many many do. Okay, so VH-1 polled the
>>current or recent artists that have air play on the network.... just
>>another reason why I don't listen to it. [...]
>>(PS: the "xx" = dead artist or dead members of group, which helps if you
>>wanna be a classic influential legendary artist.)
>
>I think this merely proves what I've said before in a recent thread on
>r.m.p., that musicians' tastes are pretty much like anyone else's. The
>idea that prog, while not popular with the masses, is enjoyed more by
>musicians -- that most musicians would cite prog as an influence, as
>someone suggested on r.m.p. -- is simply not true.
Perhaps music categories are like those "major food groups", and a
more-or-less balanced playlist is the norm? Just conjecture on my
part, I hasten to add....
Len Richards
Who listened to both Tony Levin's "World Diary" AND
The Flying Pickets' "Lost Boys" today....
-------------------------------------
"I'm off to be the wizard..."
Rob
Nic Caciappo <nic...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>23. The Eagles
>27. Bruce Springsteen
>71. Rod Stewart
>90. Tom Waits (no Joe Cocker?)
Forgetting Mr. Cocker for the moment, there is something fundamentally
wrong with the above order. I mean, really, *seriously* wrong. :)
>57. Steely Dan (not Yes?)
Nice to see the Dan up there considering they've never to my knowledge
released a video, VH1-approved or otherwise, but looking through the
top half of the list, it seems to me that it fairly represents the
playlist of my local adult-contemporary station, rather than anything
resembling a broad spectrum of music. The bottom half, meanwhile, is
like the "lifetime achievement" section of the list. The 90's are
naturally unrepresented (this whole decade doesn't fit the VH-1
demographic, apparently) but for a few unavoidable token acts like
Nirvana.
>99. Parliment-Funkadelic (no Prince?)
>100. Paul Simon
While it's a shame to see Prince at #18 as you later noted and P-Funk
at #99, at least they both beat out Paul Simon. :)
>I don't buy into this crap.
Well, that makes two of us.... but I've only been exposed to VH-1
twice in the last year and found it hopelessly unthreatening each
time.
>I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
Probably a little higher (and around 6 or 7 hundred discs total) but
overall this is the list dentist-chair nightmares are made of.
Rob
p.s. No Laurie Anderson? Jean-Michel Jarre? Kraftwerk? Well, there
were only so many slots in the "influenced a generation of musicians
but didn't sell any Calvins" category.
Cori Elliott
Henry Potts <he...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk.REMOVE-TO-EMAIL> wrote:
> Nic Caciappo <nic...@earthlink.net> writes [...]
> >regarding the top 100 rock artists that were influential to todays rock
> >stars [snip]
> I think this merely proves what I've said before in a recent thread on
> r.m.p., that musicians' tastes are pretty much like anyone else's [snip]
I think it's safe to say that "today's rock stars" and "musicians" may be
two different things.
This weekend I came across a quote from John Lennon that gave me a chill -
from the book "Beatlesongs" (trivia about, well, Beatles' songs, compiled
by William J. Dowlding). Lennon said this in friggin' 1968!:
"_This_ is the music of the future. You can forget all the rest of the
shit we've done - _this_ is it! _Everybody_ will be making this stuff one
day - you don't even have to know how to play a musical instrument to do
it!"
Of course he was speaking of Revolution 9 if you hadn't already deduced
that... Overwhelmingly, what is on the music video stations is the product
of producers, costume designers, coreographers and visual special effects
people who find men with highly unusual facial features and the obligatory
size-5 women to place in front of the camera, and it's a challenge to
figure out exactly where musicians enter into it.
I am not surprised, but proud, villified in a way, that "today's rock
stars" do NOT claim to be influenced by our guys.
- Cori %:-)
Daniel Testa
In article <352083...@earthlink.net>,
Nic Caciappo <nic...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>1.xx The BEATLES Check
>2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
>3.xx Jimi Hendrix
>5. Bob Dylan
>6. James Brown
>8.xx Elvis Presley
>10. The Police
>12. Ray Charles
>13.xx The Beach Boys
>15. Eric Clapton Check
>16.xx John Lennon No CD but I have Double Fantasy on Vinyl
>17. Elton John
>18. Prince
>20.xx The Doors
>21. Aretha Franklin(awesome filling in for Pavarotti at Grammys)
>23. The Eagles
>24.xx Bob Marley
>26. Chuck Berry
>28. Sly & The Family Stone
>30. Neil Young
>31. The Clash
>32. Joni Mitchell
>34.xx Buddy Holly Check
>35.xx Otis Redding Check
>36. Little Richard
>37. Al Green
>39.xx Miles Davis Check
>40. Michael Jackson
>41.xx Janis Joplin
>43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
>44. Jackson 5
>47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
>48. Van Halen
>49.xx Roy Orbison
>51. B B King
>53. PETER GABRIEL !!!! YEA!!!!!
>55.xx The Byrds
>56. The Kinks
>59. Bo Diddley
>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>61. Smokey Robinson
>63. Sting
>65. James Taylor
>68.xx Allman Bros
>69. Pretenders (not Yes?)
>70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
>72. Simon & Garfunkel
>73.xx Muddy Waters
>76. The Bee Gees
>78. Billy Joel (stop it you're killing me!) I have him on Vinyl
>79. Aerosmith (not Yes?)
>80. Tina Turner
>81. The Band
>83. Iggy Pop (not Yes? it gets worse too!)
>84.xx T-Rex (please, Bang a Gong)
>86. Madonna Check
>87. Santana
>88. Ramones
>89. Johnny Cash
>92.xx The Temptations
>93.xx The Four Tops
>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)
>97.xx Fats Domino
>98. Traffic
>100. Paul Simon
>
>No Genesis
>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>No King Crimson
>
>I don't buy into this crap. Record company suits must have bought into
>VH-1 time. Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
>didn't. While Madonna made it, Prince didn't. And the biggest goof of
Actually Prince did. He is number 18.
>all.... YES didn't. How many musicians or artists have some of you met
>and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
>Edge in their collections? Many many do. Okay, so VH-1 polled the
>current or recent artists that have air play on the network.... just
>another reason why I don't listen to it.
>
>I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
>
My total was only 16 but your collection is about 8 times the size of mine.
>Nic
>(PS: the "xx" = dead artist or dead members of group, which helps if you
>wanna be a classic influential legendary artist.)
--
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel Testa email:tes...@rpi.edu
Henry Potts
Cori Elliott <mell...@bridge.net> writes
>Henry Potts <he...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk.REMOVE-TO-EMAIL> wrote:
[...]
>> I think this merely proves what I've said before in a recent thread on
>> r.m.p., that musicians' tastes are pretty much like anyone else's [snip]
>
>I think it's safe to say that "today's rock stars" and "musicians" may be
>two different things.
>product of producers, costume designers, coreographers and visual
>special effects people who find men with highly unusual facial features
>and the obligatory size-5 women to place in front of the camera, and
>it's a challenge to figure out exactly where musicians enter into it.
>
>I am not surprised, but proud, villified in a way, that "today's rock
>stars" do NOT claim to be influenced by our guys.
Once we had the Monkees, now we have the Spice Girls. Take your pick.
But there are still plenty of "musicians" in today's popular music and I
don't have any trouble appreciating the musical efforts of some popular
music.
--
Henry
NP: P e t e r B l e g v a d , _ J u s t W o k e U p _
Rush3671
>
>In todays paper, it was written that VH-1 will soon have a special
>artists who have had their videos on VH-1 recently. The results went
>like this: (check the ones you own CD's by right now)
>
>2.xx Rolling Stones (always second where they belong)
>3.xx Jimi Hendrix
>4.xx Led Zeppelin
>5. Bob Dylan
>6. James Brown
>7. David Bowie
>8.xx Elvis Presley
>9.xx The Who
>10. The Police
>11. Stevie Wonder
>12. Ray Charles
>13.xx The Beach Boys
>14.xx Marvin Gaye
>15. Eric Clapton
>17. Elton John
>18. Prince
>19. Pink Floyd
>21. Aretha Franklin(awesome filling in for Pavarotti at Grammys)
>22. Fleetwood Mac
>23. The Eagles
>24.xx Bob Marley
>25. Van Morrison
>26. Chuck Berry
>27. Bruce Springsteen
>29. U2
>30. Neil Young
>31. The Clash
>32. Joni Mitchell
>33.xx Queen
>34.xx Buddy Holly
>36. Little Richard
>37. Al Green
>38. Elvis Costello
>39.xx Miles Davis
>41.xx Janis Joplin
>42.xx Nirvana (can you believe it?)
>43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
>44. Jackson 5
>45. Crosby Stills & Nash
>46.xx Sex Pistols
>47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
>48. Van Halen
>49.xx Roy Orbison
>50. R E M
>51. B B King
>52. Cream
>53. PETER GABRIEL !!!! YEA!!!!!
>54.xx The Grateful Dead
>56. The Kinks
>57. Steely Dan (not Yes?)
>58.xx Sam Cooke
>59. Bo Diddley
>60. Earth Wind & Fire
>61. Smokey Robinson
>62. Paul McCartney
>63. Sting
>64.xx Frank Zappa
>65. James Taylor
>66. Talking Heads
>68.xx Allman Bros
>69. Pretenders (not Yes?)
>70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
>71. Rod Stewart
>72. Simon & Garfunkel
>73.xx Muddy Waters
>74. The Velvet Underground (not Yes?)
>76. The Bee Gees
>77.xx John Coltrane
>80. Tina Turner
>81. The Band
>82. Devo (brother...)
>84.xx T-Rex (please, Bang a Gong)
>85. Carole King
>87. Santana
>88. Ramones
>89. Johnny Cash
>90. Tom Waits (no Joe Cocker?)
>91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
>92.xx The Temptations
>93.xx The Four Tops
>94. Diana Ross & The Supremes (how is Motown at the bottom?)
>95.xx Robert Johnson
>96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)
>97.xx Fats Domino
>98. Traffic
>99. Parliment-Funkadelic (no Prince?)
>100. Paul Simon
>
>No YES
>No Genesis
>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>No King Crimson
>
>I don't buy into this crap. Record company suits must have bought into
>VH-1 time. Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
>didn't. While Madonna made it, Prince didn't. And the biggest goof of
>and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
>Edge in their collections? Many many do. Okay, so VH-1 polled the
>current or recent artists that have air play on the network.... just
>another reason why I don't listen to it.
>
>I actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
>
>(PS: the "xx" = dead artist or dead members of group, which helps if you
>wanna be a classic influential legendary artist.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
This isn't surprising, given that they were polling the current batch of rock
"stars," whose music seems to run the gamut from adult contemporary to
brainless bubblegum pop to alternative noise. If there's a prog influence in
today's music, I'm not hearing it, and this list only reinforces *why* I'm not.
Maybe if they had polled Dream Theater or the former members of Extreme, Yes
and KC would have gotten a few token votes, but still not enough to get them on
the list.
Oh, and out of a collection of about 500 cassettes, 300-ish LPs, 150 CDs, 50 or
so 45s and even a few dozen 8-tracks, I own something by 53 out of the 100
listed. (No Iggy Pop, Sex Pistols, Velvet Underground or Michael Jackson, I'm
proud to say.) But still, at least half of my collection is prog, so if I were
a rock star, this poll wouldn't reflect my list of "influences" all that much.
Adrian M. Rush
"I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time."
--Mark Twain
Ian Mcnicoll
>> Once we had the Monkees, now we have the Spice Girls. <<
Henry,
Let's not get too snobbish here - I happen to think that 'Day dream
believer' and 'Wannabee' are damn good 'pop' songs. -nice tunes with
interesting hooks. Whilst the 'up-front' artists are there for appearance
often the music written for them is of a fairly high quality albeit
within a closely defined format. I had the interesting experience of
accompanying my daughter to a 'Boyzone' concert - I was amazed at their
professionalism (when I could hear above the noise of 4000 girls Ratio 1
male to 400 girls)!!
What is difficult for bands like Yes is that their music somehow gets
lumped onto the fringes of 'pop'. They do not write pop songs and it is
unfair on both to offer comparison.
Ian
Adam Daudrich
Ian Mcnicoll wrote:
Yeah that's one of my future endeavours... To go through music school and
then back a band like the Spice Girls. Then my empire will be complete....
Adam
Nic Caciappo
Adam Daudrich wrote:
> Yeah that's one of my future endeavours... To go through music school and
> then back a band like the Spice Girls.
Hey "backing up" Spice Girls wouldn't be so bad! Even my 10 year old son
wouldn't mind! : )
Nic
Rob
imcn...@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Ian Mcnicoll") wrote:
>What is difficult for bands like Yes is that their music somehow gets
>lumped onto the fringes of 'pop'. They do not write pop songs and it is
...so much more the shame when they try.
Rob
ku...@ties.org - http://raindog.darkknight.net
"Oh my God! They killed Kosh! ...You BASTARDS!"
David Forbus
I think the people who made up this list were confused. This list
seems to be a list of the top 100 "Classic" groups of all time.
Not the top 100 INFLUENTIAL groups of all time. A group can be
poplular but not neccessarily create a sound that is truely
new or revolutionary. Truly revolutionary and influential groups
are those that introduce new ideas. They are seldom top sellers.
The top sellers are the ones who water down or popularize the
ideas and concepts of lesser known but more radical artists.
DLF
Who has tried to sound like Devo?
1.xx The BEATLES
2.xx Rolling Stones
3.xx Jimi Hendrix
4.xx Led Zeppelin
5. Bob Dylan
6. James Brown
7. David Bowie
8.xx Elvis Presley
9.xx The Who
10. The Police
11. Stevie Wonder
12. Ray Charles
13.xx The Beach Boys
14.xx Marvin Gaye
15. Eric Clapton
16.xx John Lennon
17. Elton John
18. Prince
19. Pink Floyd
20.xx The Doors
21. Aretha Franklin
22. Fleetwood Mac
23. The Eagles
24.xx Bob Marley
25. Van Morrison
26. Chuck Berry
27. Bruce Springsteen
28. Sly & The Family Stone
29. U2
30. Neil Young
31. The Clash
32. Joni Mitchell
33.xx Queen
34.xx Buddy Holly
35.xx Otis Redding
36. Little Richard
37. Al Green
38. Elvis Costello
39.xx Miles Davis
40. Michael Jackson
41.xx Janis Joplin
42.xx Nirvana
43. Tom Petty & Heartbreakers
44. Jackson 5 <-- Bit not Michael Jackson?
45. Crosby Stills & Nash
46.xx Sex Pistols
47.xx Creedence Clearwater Revival
48. Van Halen
49.xx Roy Orbison
50. R E M
51. B B King
52. Cream
53. PETER GABRIEL !!!! YEA!!!!!
54.xx The Grateful Dead
55.xx The Byrds
56. The Kinks
57. Steely Dan
58.xx Sam Cooke
59. Bo Diddley
60. Earth Wind & Fire
61. Smokey Robinson
62. Paul McCartney
63. Sting
64.xx Frank Zappa
65. James Taylor
66. Talking Heads
67. Kiss <---- Music or stage theatrics?
68.xx Allman Bros
69. Pretenders
70.xx Stevie Ray Vaughn
71. Rod Stewart
72. Simon & Garfunkel
73.xx Muddy Waters
74. The Velvet Underground
75. Curtis Mayfield
76. The Bee Gees
77.xx John Coltrane
78. Billy Joel
79. Aerosmith
80. Tina Turner
81. The Band
82. Devo
83. Iggy Pop <---?????
84.xx T-Rex
85. Carole King
86. Madonna <----- What has she done that was "unique"?
87. Santana
88. Ramones
89. Johnny Cash
90. Tom Waits (no Joe Cocker?)
91. Gladys Knight & The Pips
92.xx The Temptations
93.xx The Four Tops
94. Diana Ross & The Supremes
95.xx Robert Johnson
96.xx Lynyrd Skynyrd (no ZZ Top?)
97.xx Fats Domino
98. Traffic
99. Parliment-Funkadelic
100. Paul Simon
Henry Potts
Ian Mcnicoll <imcn...@cix.compulink.co.uk> writes
>>> Once we had the Monkees, now we have the Spice Girls. <<
>
>Henry,
>Let's not get too snobbish here - I happen to think that 'Day dream
>believer' and 'Wannabee' are damn good 'pop' songs. -nice tunes with
I like them too -- I just wished to remind people that things weren't
really any different in the '70s.
--
Henry
NP: G i y a K a n c h e l i , " M o u r n e d b y t h e W i n d "
Henry Potts
David Forbus <for...@idt.net> writes
>I think the people who made up this list were confused. This list
>seems to be a list of the top 100 "Classic" groups of all time.
>Not the top 100 INFLUENTIAL groups of all time. A group can be
>poplular but not neccessarily create a sound that is truely
>new or revolutionary. Truly revolutionary and influential groups
>are those that introduce new ideas. They are seldom top sellers.
>The top sellers are the ones who water down or popularize the
The list came from votes from current (successful, US, pop/rock)
musicians. In that sense, these are the acts who have made an impact on
today's current (successful, US, pop/rock) musicians.
--
Henry
Jeremy S.
In article <199803310634...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
Snnrissrvd <snnri...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Subject: VH1 top 100 artists?
>>From: Nic Caciappo
I sat and watched one of the times VH1 reran this special. A couple of
points to be made here:
1) Although they say they contacted 600 artists, we don't know exactly who
these artists are (a couple of times they talked to MC Hammer, as well as
Jim Kerr (?) from Simple Minds. Are these two doing ANYTHING in the music
biz?)
2) I know this is going to sound like bu****it, but the people who do cite
Yes as an influence aren't the type of bands that get their music ON VH1.
>>No YES
>>No Genesis
>>No Emerson Lake & Palmer
>>No King Crimson
As much as VH1 called this the "Top 100 Artists of all time," the bottom
line is, who really cares? I used to hope that Yes would be mentioned on
VH1 or MTV every so often, but now I don't get my undies in a bunch when
they aren't.
>I'm surprised about Yes and especially Genesis, considering Genesis' long
>winning streak starting in the late 70's and ending in the mid 90's.
That is a little surprising, but at least Gabriel got on. The question, I
think, is what exactly were the artists asked. What's your favorite
artist(s), right? Were they allowed to pick 100? If so, I'd like to see
some of these lists that were made...
>>Funny though, while Nirvana made it to the list Pearl Jam
>>didn't.
>
>Well, you have to admit that Nirvana was more influential in the 90's than
>Pearl Jam has been. Not by much, but Nirvana & Kurt Cobain were *thee* band
>from 91'-94' and probably still would be today.
>
>> How many musicians or artists have some of you met
>>and said that they had albums of Fragile or Yessongs or Close To The
>>Edge in their collections?
>
>I've met a lot of musicians and artists who loved those albums but in
>mainstream papers and journals, Yes have never been mentioned as much as say
>the Stones, the beatles, elton john, billy joel, even the velvet underground
>and lyrnyrd skynyrd I've seen mentioned more than Yes. this is just my
>observation.
Again, we have to ask what artists and musicans were polled.
>> actually own CD's by 12 of the first 50 artists and 6 of the last 50
>>artists, a total of 18 artists out of these 100 are in my CD collection.
>>Not even 20%... and I have 2,000 CD's! How 'bout you?
Again, who really cares? My tastes aren't the same as somebody else's.
Oh boo hoo. For the record, I have cassettes or CDs of close to 50% of
the artists mentioned.
>I own about 280 CD's and I own CD's from 23 of the artists. There are some
>truly head-scratching choices (Devo(!), Traffic (over Yes or Rush? maybe i live
>a sheltered life but i've never met anyone who told me they were a "big Traffic
>fan"), The Pretenders (guess they had to include some "female"-lead band but
>take Yes' most popular song "Roundabout" and compare it to The Pretender's most
>popular song, "Back on the Chain Gang" and it's no comparison).
I thought their big song was "Brass In Pocket." And you're right, the
Pretenders are better, no comparison.
<ducks>
The Pretenders had a lot of songs that were pretty popular, such as "Kid,"
"Brass In Pocket," "Back on the Chain Gang," "Middle of the Road," "I'll
Stand By You," and others as well.
Devo I could even understand, since like the Pretenders they were early
80s "alternative," I guess. But the one I still don't really get was T.
Rex. Bang a Gong" was it for them, right? Bowie was more influential in
the gender-bender glam type of rock, but not T. Rex. Sheesh.
--Jeremy
Adam Daudrich
>
>
> The Pretenders had a lot of songs that were pretty popular, such as "Kid,"
> "Brass In Pocket," "Back on the Chain Gang," "Middle of the Road," "I'll
> Stand By You," and others as well.
>
> Devo I could even understand, since like the Pretenders they were early
> 80s "alternative," I guess. But the one I still don't really get was T.
> Rex. Bang a Gong" was it for them, right? Bowie was more influential in
> the gender-bender glam type of rock, but not T. Rex. Sheesh.
I wonder what Radiohead's influences are, since they are the flagship band of a
musicianship revival in the pop stream. Their "Paranoid Android", though only only
four minutes in length features some excellent songwriting talents, and great guitar
synth. They even go into a time signiature other than 4/4. The problem with
Radiohead is that their drummer is not as good as the rest of the band, and they all
drop to the lowest common denominator. Another good pop band are Reef, who are into
more riffy Zeppelin-esque stuff, but can't emulate their sheer orgasmic energy due
to their limited musical knowledge. Nevertheless, their keyboard player is pretty
good. On this side of the Atlantic I don't see any good "pop" bands. We've got a
bunch of faggy indie bands in the east and a dark goth scene on the west coast. It
could be more diverse in the states, maybe Danny can help me out.....
Steve Derbes
Jeremy S. wrote:
>
> In article <199803310634...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> Snnrissrvd <snnri...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>Subject: VH1 top 100 artists?
> >>From: Nic Caciappo
>
> I sat and watched one of the times VH1 reran this special. A couple of
> points to be made here:
>
> 1) Although they say they contacted 600 artists, we don't know exactly who
> these artists are (a couple of times they talked to MC Hammer, as well as
> Jim Kerr (?) from Simple Minds. Are these two doing ANYTHING in the music
> biz?)
The last three Simple Minds records; _Good News from the Next World_,
_Real Life_, and _Street Fighting Years_ (produced by our own Blessed
St. Trevor) are each better than any Yes album from the same period
(past decade or so.) Pretty special live show as well. Check 'em out,
Jeremy, especially _Real Life_.