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Kurt

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Aug 17, 2001, 2:34:14 PM8/17/01
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I have always wondered about Gillan's involvement in that very fine
production, as well as some questions about the production itself.

How did Gillan end up in it? I assume he was very busy as a new member of
DP. I've read some about the Mk1-Mk2 transition, but there are only passing
references to JCSS.

About the production, was it a play before the record came out, or did the
record precede the stage show? I know Joseph was the first Webber/Rice
effort, but don't know the rest of the timeline up to JCSS. (This is OT, I
should probably post it to a Webber NG, but thought I'd try the locals
first...)

Thanks
KD


Steve Marshall

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Aug 17, 2001, 9:30:48 PM8/17/01
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The record was first.
I think Gillan was recording it by day and then doing Purple shows at night.
He was meant to be in the movie, but the money wasn't enough for him. He'd
have to stop doing DP gigs and he said he'd make more money in a night with
Purple than what they were offering.

Steve M

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kurtandtracie

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Aug 17, 2001, 10:42:11 PM8/17/01
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Thanks Steve

Any resources for this info?

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Harrie Hendriksen

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Aug 18, 2001, 5:53:30 AM8/18/01
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There's some nice stuff mentioned in the Gillan autobiography.

Harrie

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Arne-Kr. Engebretsen

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:03:45 AM8/18/01
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Hi !

If my recollection is correct, Gillan got this role after Webber /Rice heard
Child in time and was impressed by Gillan's vocal parts.


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Harrie Hendriksen

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:05:14 AM8/18/01
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I also believe it was supposed to go to Robert Plant, but he refused or did
not have the time.


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Kramer

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:30:10 AM8/18/01
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> I also believe it was supposed to go to Robert Plant, but he refused or
did
> not have the time.

Thank God he's an idiot! Gillan is the best part of JCS, and it would be a
pity if he wasn't the first one to set the standard!

BTW, has anybody heard anybody else reach all the high notes that Gillan
did? Any of the professional and highly skilled opera/musical singers? I
sure haven't!

Harrie Hendriksen

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Aug 18, 2001, 9:39:17 AM8/18/01
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David Byron, and unlike Gillan he did not have to scream, he could still
maintain a singing voice.

Not saying one is better than the other, but as far as high pitch is
concerned they are equal.

Harrie

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Karl-Heinz Baier

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Aug 18, 2001, 10:38:59 AM8/18/01
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David Byron and Ken Hensley also.

And of course GLENN HUGHES!!!!!!!!!!!

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Steve Marshall

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Aug 18, 2001, 3:12:47 PM8/18/01
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I don't know if it is available anywhere now but there used to be a DP
biography by Chris Charlesworth. I'm sure there is more info in there.
Gillan's book also is a good read :o)

Steve M

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kurtandtracie

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Aug 19, 2001, 10:51:42 PM8/19/01
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I've been listening to the record often lately. "Gethsemane" has to be
Gillan's finest ever vocal performance. He outright shines.
Seldom if ever has he matched his performance in that song. Of course, the
song is built entirely around his vocals; it's not your typical rock-n-roll
song.
He is superb throughout the entire album, as are many others. The record
DEFINITELY stands up after 30-odd years.
Too bad he opted out of the movie.

YMMV
KD

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Jovellanos

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Aug 20, 2001, 8:37:11 AM8/20/01
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Gillan screaming in Gethsemane song is superb but taking his
performance in JCS as a whole, I prefer Ted Neeley from the movie
version. Ted has more feeling and when he has to scream he does it
quite well. His character performance is more convincing, Gillan seems
not to take things too seriuosly in some songs.
Besides, Carl Anderson (from the movie version also) is much better
than Murray Head IMMO in the role of Judas. I was amazed the first
time I watched the film.
And one thing if for certain: I am a big Purple fan. As we say in
Spain: "lo cortes no quita lo valiente", that means, more or less,
"you can be brave and polite at the time" = being a Purple fan is
compatible with objectivity :-)).

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Kurt

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Aug 20, 2001, 9:34:11 AM8/20/01
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Yes, Neeley does well in the film, but misses in some places where Gillan
hits it, and vice versa. Also, the movie was 3 or 4 years later, allowing
time to develop a fuller "feeling" for the role. Neely had a great LOOK for
the role, as well.
One thing for sure that's better in the movie than on the original record:
After Jesus has just received 39 lashes, Gillan comes back singing in full
voice; Neeley is more subdued, as if struggling to speak, appropriately.
(The entire trial scene is the most haunting of the movie.....chills!)

Carl Anderson was outstanding in his role; I saw him in Boston on the 25th
anniversary tour, still doing a great job. Neeley was also on the ticket,
but for some reason we got stuck with the backup Jesus.
The trial scene was even more effective on stage! My wife was in tears.
WHAT a scene!

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Gord Jantzen

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Aug 21, 2001, 12:41:21 AM8/21/01
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Gord Wrote:

Gillan just has a fuller more portly bass to the high parts that JCS
lead role calls for in the main performance. Although I was very
impressed with both Ted Neeley & Carl Anderson performance in Vancouver.
Anderson is the perfect part; Neely seems to fit Jesus well .... but I
think Gillan's voice was born for the part. Truly an amazing classical
voice, especially when he did the record. Unfortunately, money
talks.... But destiny sometimes calls out. No knock against Neely as he
is also a great vocalist in this role -- I just give preference to BIG
IAN.

Carl Anderson was just a treat to watch live; my 3 nieces that I brought
along for the performance, thoroughly enjoyed the evening.


Ciao,


Gord

Jovellanos

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Aug 21, 2001, 4:11:29 AM8/21/01
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I'm dying on envy, man. Unfortunately this kind of shows very rarely
come to Spain, and if they do they don't come to Sevilla (that's where
I live). Where did you see the show?
So Anderson is still in good shape, isn't he? I expected it, I don't
know why. For me it's one of the best singers I've ever heard, I can't
understand why he hasn't been much succesful after the JCS thing.


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David Meadows

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Aug 31, 2001, 1:58:05 PM8/31/01
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The first time I heard JCS was a record with Paul Nicholas playing Jesus
(1972). He has a very different voice from Neely and Gillan, but still a
great voice.

When I eventually heard Gillan's version, I wasn't at all sure I liked it. I
love his voice, but I was just so used to Nicholas doing it that I couldn't
get used to Gillan's style. I still think I prefer Nicholas's version.

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Dougie

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Aug 31, 2001, 2:30:02 PM8/31/01
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> The first time I heard JCS was a record with Paul Nicholas playing Jesus
> (1972). He has a very different voice from Neely and Gillan, but still a
> great voice.

Steve Balsamo who I saw do it in London in 96 did a blinding version night
after night.
He sang it on many tv shows in the UK. Still looking for a vid of one of
them.
Seen 3 other guys perform the part and had a wee stab my self last November
Not one come close to Balsamo. However check out Pilate in the new video
version. Awesome

regards
Dougie


R. Alberda

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Aug 31, 2001, 3:39:59 PM8/31/01
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I heard the spanish version of JCS. The part of JC was done by a guy called
Camilo Sesto. My girfriend (who's spanish) asked me to look up some songs
of this guy on the internet, so i bumped into the JCS thing. Camilo Sesto
has a very fine voice and is a good screamer as well. He's not a rock
singer. Most of the things are ballads. But good ones

wait a minute...getting off topic here....
R


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David Meadows

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>
> wait a minute...getting off topic here....
> R

The great thing about amd-p is that it's almost impossible to get off-topic
when you're talking about music. That's because EVERYTHING is in the Deep
Purple family tree, if you open it wide enough. As I think we've just proven
:-)

Svante Pettersson

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Sep 1, 2001, 1:17:26 PM9/1/01
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"Dougie" <doo...@doogiewhite.co.uk> vrute-a:

>However check out Pilate in the new video version. Awesome

Fred Johansson (or something?)?

/Svante

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