Where did bjork get her asian eyes?
Brett
more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
Brett
CyberCowboyRebel
eyes as Bjork's! When I was younger everyone thought I was Oriental!!
Apparently, it must be a Scandanavian trait!
GoDrex
but i really don't know.... either that or an alien ;-)
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Olve Askim
(CyberCowboyRebel) wrote:
Er.... I am Norwegian, and we don't have many people looking like
that.
Except immigrants though.... :)
Olve Askim
www.olve.net
The Wasteland
Her mom has those same eyes so thats where she got them.
Lil
GoDrex skrev i meddelelsen ...
Ornolfur
Genes associated with ''asian eyes'' may have been floating about in
the Scandinavian gene pools since time immemorial due to
ancient 'mongoloid' influence in the region; Bjork may have inherited
such genes as a mere fluke.
The same might also go for 'CyberCowboyRebel'; the question is whether
he might not be of recent Sami origin.
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New Messiah
the North American land the ice attached Green Land and Ice Land to
the same land mass and it is belived that the native people in Green
Land are the same as our Eskimos and that would make the ones in Ice
Land probably the same and since these people have all been here for
hundreds of years she could have some in her blood from hundreds of
years ago.
>In article <39d1497d...@news.at.kpnqwest.net>,
> ol...@olve.net wrote:
The Wasteland
THERE ARE NO ESKIMOS IN ICELAND!!!
Ok??
Got it?
And to get the geography right messiah then u have not taken into
consideration that Iceland was uninhabited for all time untill the norwegian
Vikings sailed over there just bout 1200 years ago.
So You see there never were any eskimos there.
Lil
New Messiah skrev i meddelelsen ...
>eskimos came from asia, on the ice bridge and then spread out all over
>the North American land the ice attached Green Land and Ice Land to
>the same land mass and it is belived that the native people in Green
>Land are the same as our Eskimos and that would make the ones in Ice
>Land probably the same and since these people have all been here for
>hundreds of years she could have some in her blood from hundreds of
>years ago.
>
>>In article <39d1497d...@news.at.kpnqwest.net>,
>> ol...@olve.net wrote:
Olve Askim
<fl...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
>She has no eskimo blood in her at all
>Her mom has those same eyes so thats where she got them.
And where did the mother get them from....?
Olve Askim
www.olve.net
Guido
heard that when Iceland was first being settled around 800 CE, many Irish slaves
were taken there, and the Celtic quality has remained in Iceland ever since.
Bjork does look rather Irish, don't you think?
My girlfriend is German-American and she has squinty eyes just like Bjork. In
fact, in a certain light, it's almost like she is Bjork. Once I even asked her
if I could call her Bjork. Ooh, I'd never seen her get so pissed off, what with
her raging jealousy and latent homosexuality and all. So, I never asked again.
Let me know if you wanna see her picture, so you can judge for yourself how much
of a Bjorkalike she really is. I have a jpg around here somewhere.
--
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To the name of this town in a desktop globe
Exit wound in a foreign nation
Showing the home of the one this was written for"
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Curse
know. i'm from austria ;)
"Guido" <str...@cis.ohio-state.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Olve Askim
wrote:
>Yeah, those trademarked Bjork squinty eyes are stunning, aren't they? I have
>heard that when Iceland was first being settled around 800 CE, many Irish slaves
>were taken there, and the Celtic quality has remained in Iceland ever since.
>Bjork does look rather Irish, don't you think?
No no no. She doesn't look Scandinavian OR Irish (OR German) at all!
Where do you all get this from?
(I am a Norwegian who studied in Ireland currently living in Austria
and moving to Germany later this year. I would know!)
Olve Askim
http://www.olve.net
The Wasteland
Brett skrev i meddelelsen <01c027d8$b0eb3e40$566d8490@brettjoh>...
>I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
>more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
>tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
Her asian looks have nothing to do with the Inuits (eskimos). They have
NEVER been in Iceland. Björk isn't the only Icelander that has eyes like
these and you meet people in Norway, Sweden and Suomi that look like this.
It is possible that this look comes from an asian tribe that travelled to
northern Scandinavia a long time ago. We are talking 1500 - 2000 years
here. IIRC they were called Quenir or Tchudans. Characteristics were black
hair and squinty eyes, these people were of a warrior nature.
Many think that Scandinavians are nothing but blonde hair and blue eyes,
that's wrong. If you read the Icelandic sagas you'll see that the greatest
heroes of the viking era were mostly dark haired and with a dark complexion.
Wasteland.
tar...@imap2.asu.edu
: Brett skrev i meddelelsen <01c027d8$b0eb3e40$566d8490@brettjoh>...
That eyelid flap, the epicanthus, is widely distributed among human
populations, but it just isn't very common except among people of Asian
descent. It also is a common symptom of a wide array of genetic and
chromosomal anomalies, so it apparently isn't hard to "switch on" whatever
developmental pathways lead to it. Some ancestral viking could have
easily picked it up via a mutation and then passed it on. It's like a lot
of those odd little features that are considered to be typically ethnic,
like blue eyes, dark skin, or red hair, more of a frequency issue than a
presence-absence issue.
Ben B.
Guido
> Where do you all get this from?
>
> (I am a Norwegian who studied in Ireland currently living in Austria
> and moving to Germany later this year. I would know!)
>
Mark Andrew Miles
> GET THIS STRAGHT PEOPLE!!
> THERE ARE NO ESKIMOS IN ICELAND!!!
I don't agree.... I mean for example, Greenland was discovered by Eirik
Raudur going off escaping jail... So what if he and his mates raped and
pillaged and brought back some Greenlandic wifies...!? then there would
be Greenlandic (Eskimo) blood in the Icelandic genetic stock!
Mark
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<Pine.GSO.3.96.100093...@tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk>,
Mark A Miles <mmi...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, The Wasteland wrote:
>
> > GET THIS STRAGHT PEOPLE!!
> > THERE ARE NO ESKIMOS IN ICELAND!!!
>
> I don't agree.... I mean for example, Greenland was discovered by
Eirik
> Raudur going off escaping jail... So what if he and his mates raped
and
> pillaged and brought back some Greenlandic wifies...!? then there
would
> be Greenlandic (Eskimo) blood in the Icelandic genetic stock!
>
> Mark
>
(Eiríkur Rauði) become depopulated. There simply were no inuits anywhere
but in the extreme north and Eric and his "mates" went with their wives
and children and did not come back.
Sigvaldi Eggertsson
(sig...@binet.is)
Mark Andrew Miles
> But i do. Greenland had, by the time of the arrival of Eric the red
> (Eiríkur Rauði) become depopulated. There simply were no inuits anywhere
> but in the extreme north and Eric and his "mates" went with their wives
> and children and did not come back.
Um... OK. But, yuo see I thought Erik did come back... You see I had
heard that he came back and told people about Greenland and that because
it was such a sh*thole ('scuse the French -- but it must be bloody
freezing up there!) he called it Greenland... But then again, maybe he
sent a letter.
Mark
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ame...@my-deja.com
tar...@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
> That eyelid flap, the epicanthus, is widely distributed among human
> populations, but it just isn't very common except among people of
>Asian
> descent. It also is a common symptom of a wide array of genetic and
> chromosomal anomalies, so it apparently isn't hard to "switch on"
>whatever
> developmental pathways lead to it. Some ancestral viking could have
> easily picked it up via a mutation and then passed it on. It's like
>a lot
> of those odd little features that are considered to be typically
>ethnic,
> like blue eyes, dark skin, or red hair, more of a frequency issue
>than a
> presence-absence issue.
You know, it's amusing how people will try to denie that they are of a
certain ancestry particularly when that ancestry implies that they are
on a "lower level" of being. I've noticed the same type of behavior
among "black" Arabs; if they have kinky hair, dark skin and wide
nostrels they will try to denie that they have black african blood in
them. For a scandinavian to say that their asian eyes come from a
genetic mutation is just like saying that an arab's kinky hair comes
from a genitic mutation which is hogwash. I've seen pictures of people
living in scandinavia in national geographic magazines. The asian look
is too common in that area for you to say that it's a rare genetic
anomoly. There is no other reason for Bjorg's eyes and hair besides
the fact that she is of either Lapp and or Inuit ancestry.
ame...@my-deja.com
"The Wasteland" <fl...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
> Maybe it should be cleared up what is meant by ancestry, that is the
>time
> frame. The vikings that came to Iceland came from norway, and brought
>slaves
> from ireland, that was 1200 years ago, its obvious that we can in no
>way
> claim to know what they looked like and furthermore there have been
>numerous
> nations that have had ships sail to iceland for fishing through the
>ages.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what happened to the indigenous peoples
of Iceland who were there before the vikings?
> For instance among ppl on the west coast of Iceland there are
>relatively
> many with dark complexion and dark brown hair and eyes, that is couse
>many a
> french sailor met with icelandic hospitalilty....
> But we are talking about something that lies centuries back, and i
>guess
> that what im trying to say here is that we dont know and have no way
>of
> knowing where our various features come from.
This is also true in america, maybe even more so. I guess no one can
pinpoint exactly where all of their ancesters came from but you must
have some idea. Isn't it possible that some of the vikings that
settled Iceland were of Lapp ancestry?
>Im Icelandic and i have 3
> kids, one of them has the same fold or flap eyelid that Björk has,
>nobody
> else in our family has them.
Interesting. This reminds me of cases of black african couples having
albino babies or simply babies that are very light skinned for no
apparent reason. Maybe certain types of mutations are more common with
some people than with others.
> PS
> But Its important that you all are clear on that there have never been
> eskimo or inuit ppl living in Iceland as there are in Greenland.
So the island was uninhabited when the vikings came?
The Wasteland
>> PS
>> But Its important that you all are clear on that there have never been
>> eskimo or inuit ppl living in Iceland as there are in Greenland.
>
>So the island was uninhabited when the vikings came?
>
>
I guess that is the root of the misunderstanding all along, that you would
automaticaly assume that since there are inuit in greenland and nothern
america there had to be in Iceland to, but that is not the case!
The reason might be as u can see from looking at a map of the world, that
Iceland is actually not near Greenland at all, and was created by vulcanic
eruption on the seabed.
As for the vikings being Lapp..ehhh. u know the Lapps are in Finland dont
you?
They are and were a non sailing ppl, reindeers being their thing.
Lil
ame...@my-deja.com
"The Wasteland" <fl...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
> As for the vikings being Lapp..ehhh. u know the Lapps are in Finland
>dont
> you?
Yes, but according to the cia world fact book there are also some in
Norway. Geographically speaking, it's not too much of a stretch of the
imagination that some of the Lapps and vikings may have intermingled
and brought the gene for the eye fold from the Lapps to Iceland.
I was told that Iceland has a law against immigrating there. Assuming
this is true, it's still possible that over time that some men of Lapp
ancestry may have traveled there and spread the eye fold gene into your
population.
> They are and were a non sailing ppl, reindeers being their thing.
I'm sure there are some who have assimilated into the modern society
just like the indigenous people here in the US.
Royce Lerwick
<fl...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
>As for the vikings being Lapp..ehhh. u know the Lapps are in Finland dont
>you?
Uh, you know that the Sami lived in northern Norway, and in fact at
one time lived all over Norway, and the Gaelic speakers claim in
Scotland that Donald MacCrimmon was an ethnic Lapp or Sami from the
Island of Hromund the Viking bla bla bla....and if an ethnic Lapp or
SAmi can manage to get to Scotland he can get to Iceland.
>They are and were a non sailing ppl, reindeers being their thing.
Then I wonder how the feck my grandmother's people ended up in North
Dakota and I looke fecking Chinese when I was younger?
Royce
(Very few reindeer in North Dakota. And just for the record, not all
Native Americans live on reservations, hunt buffalo, or run around in
buckskins and leggings any more.)
Royce Lerwick
>I'm sure there are some who have assimilated into the modern society
>just like the indigenous people here in the US.
The Sami have been assimilated into Norwegian bloodlines since before
there *was* a Norway. That's not very popular in some Norse circles to
think about--all that Aryan Master Race crap and all--but it's very
true.
Royce
Worldboy
Probably even more so than the Japanese.
Homo- Genic-
Same Peopled.
Ive heard that word before, but i cant say where! [sarc]
Worldboy
Lapps is just wrong for some reason.
Like American Indians/ Native Americans
or the Untouchables/ Dalits
and so on...
Anyone see the opening ceremonies for Lilehamer 1994?
wmmvrrvrrmm
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(Royce Lerwick) wrote:
<< The Sami have been assimilated into Norwegian bloodlines since before
there *was* a Norway. That's not very popular in some Norse circles to
think about--all that Aryan Master Race crap and all--but it's very
true.
Royce >>
My other favourite singer Anne-Marie Almedal of the norwegian group Velvet
Belly has some some of that Asian look in her features.
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>
> Homo- Genic-
> Same Peopled.
>
> Ive heard that word before, but i cant say where! [sarc]
I've wondered about this word. Shouldn't it be Homogeneous? And I didn't
think it referred to people, but any objects which are similar or uniform.
tar...@imap2.asu.edu
: Worldboy <r_Wor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
-Genic means "creating" or "prone to creating," e.g. photogenic,
pathogenic, carcinogenic, teratogenic, although sometimes it can mean
"like a *gen," e.g. hydrogenic. "Homogenic" would be like "creating or
giving rise to the same thing or sameness."
Ben B.
Timbo
Sounds OK, Ben, but I can't find "homogenic" in the dictionary! Another
example of Bjork's determination to be unusual or different - ie anything
but homogenic!
The Wasteland
way over
Lil
Guido skrev i meddelelsen <39D35D19...@cis.ohio-state.edu>...
The Wasteland
frame. The vikings that came to Iceland came from norway, and brought slaves
from ireland, that was 1200 years ago, its obvious that we can in no way
claim to know what they looked like and furthermore there have been numerous
nations that have had ships sail to iceland for fishing through the ages.
many with dark complexion and dark brown hair and eyes, that is couse many a
french sailor met with icelandic hospitalilty....
But we are talking about something that lies centuries back, and i guess
that what im trying to say here is that we dont know and have no way of
kids, one of them has the same fold or flap eyelid that Björk has, nobody
else in our family has them.
Lil
PS
But Its important that you all are clear on that there have never been
eskimo or inuit ppl living in Iceland as there are in Greenland. there is
no relation, and im not saying that couse i think they are any lower beings!
just stating a fact... since this seems to be a common misunderstandig,
especially among Americans that dont learn any european or scandinavian
history.
ame...@my-deja.com skrev i meddelelsen <8rcncs$mmv$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <8r18r1$qsj$1...@news.asu.edu>,
> tar...@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
>
>> That eyelid flap, the epicanthus, is widely distributed among human
>> populations, but it just isn't very common except among people of
>>Asian
>> descent. It also is a common symptom of a wide array of genetic and
>> chromosomal anomalies, so it apparently isn't hard to "switch on"
>>whatever
For a scandinavian to say that their asian eyes come from a
>genetic mutation is just like saying that an arab's kinky hair comes
>from a genitic mutation which is hogwash. I've seen pictures of people
>living in scandinavia in national geographic magazines. The asian look
>is too common in that area for you to say that it's a rare genetic
>anomoly. There is no other reason for Bjorg's eyes and hair besides
>the fact that she is of either Lapp and or Inuit ancestry.
>
>
>
yhal...@gmail.com
> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
Hey! So Bjork has something called 'Epicathal Folds'. This is common in people of Asiatic descent and people with down syndrome, though this does occur in Caucasians occasionally. I know a lot about this because my son, who is completely Caucasian, has epicanthal folds, little Asian eyes, and people ask all the time if he has Asiatic descent. He doesn't. As far as I know anyhow. They are a bit more common in Scandinavians as well. I hope this helps! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold
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> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
el.carl...@gmail.com
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> Yeah, those trademarked Bjork squinty eyes are stunning, aren't they? I have
> heard that when Iceland was first being settled around 800 CE, many Irish slaves
> were taken there, and the Celtic quality has remained in Iceland ever since.
> Bjork does look rather Irish, don't you think?
>
> fact, in a certain light, it's almost like she is Bjork. Once I even asked her
> if I could call her Bjork. Ooh, I'd never seen her get so pissed off, what with
> her raging jealousy and latent homosexuality and all. So, I never asked again.
>
> Let me know if you wanna see her picture, so you can judge for yourself how much
> of a Bjorkalike she really is. I have a jpg around here somewhere.
> --
>
> "Make a hole with the gun perpendicular
> To the name of this town in a desktop globe
> Exit wound in a foreign nation
> Showing the home of the one this was written for"
> --Ana Ng
It was Danish Vikings who went to Iceland.
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> eskimo or inuit ppl living in Iceland as there are in Greenland. there is
> no relation
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> Brett skrev i meddelelsen <01c027d8$b0eb3e40$566d8490@brettjoh>...
> >more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> >tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
>
> NEVER been in Iceland. Björk isn't the only Icelander that has eyes like
> these and you meet people in Norway, Sweden and Suomi that look like this.
> It is possible that this look comes from an asian tribe that travelled to
> northern Scandinavia a long time ago. We are talking 1500 - 2000 years
> here. IIRC they were called Quenir or Tchudans. Characteristics were black
> hair and squinty eyes, these people were of a warrior nature.
> Many think that Scandinavians are nothing but blonde hair and blue eyes,
> that's wrong. If you read the Icelandic sagas you'll see that the greatest
> heroes of the viking era were mostly dark haired and with a dark complexion.
>
> Wasteland.
It's more like 7000 - 8000 years. A tribe in South China split up. Some moving to the northern parts of China, to Korea and Japan, whilst another group moved north-west to siberia and all the way over to Scandinavia. The genes must have come from there but become recessive (we have 2 variations of all genes) If one of the genes are dominant the recessive gene that exibits a specific trate loses. So some Norwegians probably have this recessive gene that gives Epicanthic folds. If two parents that both share one of these genes has a baby there is a 25 % chance their baby will get both reseccive variants of that gene. But there are probably lots of genes that gives this specific eye-trait. Therefor it is very rare, but absolutely possible.
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> Yeah, those trademarked Bjork squinty eyes are stunning, aren't they? I have
> heard that when Iceland was first being settled around 800 CE, many Irish slaves
> were taken there, and the Celtic quality has remained in Iceland ever since.
> Bjork does look rather Irish, don't you think?
>
> My girlfriend is German-American and she has squinty eyes just like Bjork. In
> fact, in a certain light, it's almost like she is Bjork. Once I even asked her
> if I could call her Bjork. Ooh, I'd never seen her get so pissed off, what with
> her raging jealousy and latent homosexuality and all. So, I never asked again.
>
> Let me know if you wanna see her picture, so you can judge for yourself how much
> of a Bjorkalike she really is. I have a jpg around here somewhere.
>
> --
>
> "Make a hole with the gun perpendicular
> To the name of this town in a desktop globe
> Exit wound in a foreign nation
> Showing the home of the one this was written for"
> --Ana Ng
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> My family heritage is primarilly Norwegian..and I have practiaclly the same
> eyes as Bjork's! When I was younger everyone thought I was Oriental!!
> Apparently, it must be a Scandanavian trait!
I have Norwegian heritage also and when I was a kid, people always asked if I was Asian!
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> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
vikings are the progenitors of blondes in russia around the same time mongol hordes passed through, and huns. The vikings took slaves, and had contact along the rivers as far as the black sea, even bhagdad. I am certain those traits come from viking raids into the steppes of asia.
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> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:31:26 +0200, "The Wasteland"
> <fl...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
>
> >She has no eskimo blood in her at all
> >Her mom has those same eyes so thats where she got them.
>
> And where did the mother get them from....?
>
> Olve Askim
> www.olve.net
Maybe not Eskimo, but I think she must have Sami origin in her.
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> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
> Brett
lytn...@gmail.com
> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
> Brett
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> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
> Brett
99li...@gmail.com
> Lapps are the Sami.
>
> Lapps is just wrong for some reason.
>
> Like American Indians/ Native Americans
> or the Untouchables/ Dalits
>
> and so on...
>
> Anyone see the opening ceremonies for Lilehamer 1994?
Lapp is a derogatory term for Sami. It means "patch" inferring a poor, inferior people with patched clothing.
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> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
> more european look. She's icelandic through and through, but can anyone
> tell me does her family history extend back somewhere else?
>
> Brett
acave...@gmail.com
> I love her beautiful eyes, but I've noticed most Icelandic people have a
>
> Brett
kpopboyg...@gmail.com
David Green
> My family heritage is primarilly Norwegian..and I have practiaclly the same
> eyes as Bjork's! When I was younger everyone thought I was Oriental!!
> Apparently, it must be a Scandanavian trait!
Rock N
> Oriental is not the correct term to describe peoplw from asia the correct term its ASIANS because oriental is ITEMS made in ASIA. For example, a base, plates, drawings from asia are oriental but a person that is lets say from Korea its an ASIAN person remember this because its a huge mistake a lot of people make calling them orientals which is like calling them objects not people and is a very offensive term to them.