Kino's THE MAN WHO LAUGHS DVD missing a few snippets?
WaverBoy
new DVD of THE MAN WHO LAUGHS is missing a few snippets:
"The most noticeable is when Conny enters Olga's budoir, and Olga is
sprawled out on the bed. It's supposed to show the camera scanning all the
way down her body, but if doesn't in this release. Another is where the
clown runs up to the camera with the Gwynplaine flyer in his hand. It shows
him running up and them a shot of the flyer; that's supposed to be one
continual shot and not cut."
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Too bad they couldn't have spliced in this footage from 16mm sources if it
wasn't available in 35mm.
Beaver Lad
preview from Kino. DAMN! That's one of the best shots in the film.
Ditto the clown shot. What a shame. What are the chances of the film
being re-mastered to fix these probs? I was contemplating a purchase
but I don't relish the thought of being irritated by needless omissions
every time I watch the film.
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In article <l4ydnV1cFrG...@comcast.com>, WaverBoy
David P. Hayes
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> "The most noticeable is when Conny enters Olga's budoir, and Olga is
> sprawled out on the bed. It's supposed to show the camera scanning all the
> way down her body, but if doesn't in this release. Another is where the
> clown runs up to the camera with the Gwynplaine flyer in his hand. It
shows
> him running up and them a shot of the flyer; that's supposed to be one
> continual shot and not cut."
>
>
> Too bad they couldn't have spliced in this footage from 16mm sources if it
> wasn't available in 35mm.
There is both an LOC 35mm print and Cineteca del Commune di Bologna edition,
the latter of which Kino credits. The LOC print has made the rounds, having
been shown at the Silent Movie in Hollywood (under Larry Austen) and the
Prince in Philadelphia (within the last two years), and contains in 35mm the
shot of Olga sprawled.
--
David Hayes
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Bob Birchard
For some inexplicable reason the rather unnecessary Italian restoration was used
for this DVD rather than the Domestic version which has been at LOC for years.
A 16mm print was used to provide the English titles (did they miss one or was
that an extra title in the Italian version? All of a sudden one subtitle pops
up in Italian in the middle of the film. Even with these minor annoyances,
however, it is terrific to have the film available on DVD. TMWL is one of the
greats.
--
Bob Birchard
Coming from the University Press of Kentucky in June 2004
“Cecil B. DeMille’s Hollywood”
by Robert S. Birchard
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DShepFilm
missing; titles reshot to center up what remains). The source material for the
Kino print is full silent aperture with the pictorial compositions intended by
Paul Leni.
David Shepard
Harlett O'Dowd
> new DVD of THE MAN WHO LAUGHS is missing a few snippets:
>
> "The most noticeable is when Conny enters Olga's budoir, and Olga is
> sprawled out on the bed. It's supposed to show the camera scanning all the
> way down her body, but if doesn't in this release. Another is where the
> clown runs up to the camera with the Gwynplaine flyer in his hand. It shows
> him running up and them a shot of the flyer; that's supposed to be one
> continual shot and not cut."
Only knowing the film from the Kino DVD - is not the Olga shot one of
the alternates used in one of the extra which shows side by side
comparrisons of the more risque european shot with the american
release? IIRC, the more tame american shot is what is used in the
main body of the film.
Or are we talking about another shot entirely?
Max Nineteennineteen
> I noticed the snip of the pan down Olga's lovely figure in the on-line
> preview from Kino. DAMN! That's one of the best shots in the film.
> Ditto the clown shot. What a shame. What are the chances of the film
> being re-mastered to fix these probs?
None whatsoever, I'm sure. However, you may be sure that as soon as
you plunk down money for each Matrix sequel, they will be working on
special expanded editions of those...
Darren
The Kino DVD is excelent. i have no complaints. If a breif shot is
missing I am not worried.
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Eric Stott
Bob Birchard wrote:For some inexplicable reason the rather unnecessary Italian
restoration was used
> for this DVD rather than the Domestic version which has been at LOC for years.
> A 16mm print was used to provide the English titles (did they miss one or was
> that an extra title in the Italian version? All of a sudden one subtitle pops
> up in Italian in the middle of the film. Even with these minor annoyances,
> however, it is terrific to have the film available on DVD. TMWL is one of the
> greats.
>
> --
> Bob Birchard
It was interesting to see that the Italian titles used the same fancy script in the
"Seven Footprints To Satan" Italian titles. They must have liked the flourishes.
Stott
Donna Hill
> preview from Kino. DAMN! That's one of the best shots in the film.
> Ditto the clown shot. What a shame. What are the chances of the film
> being re-mastered to fix these probs? I was contemplating a purchase
> but I don't relish the thought of being irritated by needless omissions
> every time I watch the film.
>
That's okay, I bought a copy, watched it, loved it, relished it and
found myself not the least bit irritated by any of the needless
omissions. The DoN, at least this branch on the distant East Coast
give KINOs job on this film 4 jeweled cigarette holders and 2 very
enthusiastic thumbs up (Olga was a damn good vamp in this film, BTW,
not Nita, of course, but right up there). After waiting years to see
this film, I was totally blown away by it and Mary Philbin's
unirritating performance was a complete surprise!
If you are not going to buy this DVD, that's okay, I will buy your
copy and give it to friends who do not yet have it, this was my
favorite of all the Xmas season DVDs I received. However, I suggest
you bite the bullet and buy it, it rarely gets any better than this.
But that is just my opnion!
Donna Hill
Beaver Lad
copy to buy for your friends!
Wasn't Olga Baclanaova something else? Just about the sexiest woman
I've ever seen in a movie, silent OR sound. The only thing in TMWL
about which I have reservations is that song -- you know the one.
That and the absence of Spec O'Donnell.
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In article <ee4dd66e.04011...@posting.google.com>, Donna
Jeff NY
(Shrug!)
As little as ten years ago, just the vague notion of owning this film on DVD,
and having it look (and sound) as fine as it does, would have been laughed off
as a foolish dream.
Nothing more to say here.
Jeff