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25 Quotes That Show You How Much Liberals Hate Soldiers Like Chris Kyle
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Joe Cooper
Feb 7, 2015, 4:39:55 PM2/7/15
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1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished
soul.” – Max Blumenthal
3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and
Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a
childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members
and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and
intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in
the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of
nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it
also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance
and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David
Masciotra at Salon
4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation
of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would
willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul
racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that
extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe
5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip
yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people
have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal
with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life
that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president
and those who support him.
I will never say, ‘support the troops.’ I don’t believe in the validity
of that statement. People say, ‘I don’t support the war, I support the
troops’ as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the
troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no
valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we
should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor
of ‘just supporting the troops.’ I wish everything were that easy.”
—Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian
6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops
home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have
more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan?
At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape
themselves." – Bill Maher
7) “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were
cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r
worse.”— Michael Moore
8) “What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there’s
not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier
nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in
Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh, from other countries,
particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-
Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios
with impunity….” — Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley
9) “Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the
process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that
automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a
soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment
program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp
as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a
uniform… that is exactly what it is.)” —Stan Goff at the Huffington Post
10) “Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!
…
This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about
making friends and finding out more about the military that you don’t
trust…
Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of
town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you’re hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat.” — A flier from Iraq Vets Against
the War
11) “THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers
are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom
George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But
like those Hessians, today’s volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous
work largely for wages and benefits….” —David M. Kennedy in the New York
Times
12) “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard
and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you,
you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” —John Kerry
13) “If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining
the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in
Iraq.” —Charles Rangel
14) “For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a
certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time
spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured
was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find
completely understandable. It’s called doing penance, John. You don’t
bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your
daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South
Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can’t just take orders, we
decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your
suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you
think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were
civilians, you know.” —Mike Malloy
15) “I’m putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped… You never
know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I’m like, wow,
this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something.”
—Kanye West
16) “(It’s) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen
without invoking valor, without invoking the words ‘heroes.’ I feel …
uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so
rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.” —Chris Hayes
17) “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they
killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” —John Murtha smears the troops
on Haditha
18) “The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign
Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers
are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan.” —Code Pink
19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of
his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed
Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies
towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know,
killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When
he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A
lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the
terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." --
MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin
20) “Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns
on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English
professor, John Daly
21) “I don’t want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the
fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don’t,
then you’ve got, the Army, Iraq, I don’t know, something like that. It’s,
it’s not as bright. So, that’s my little commercial for that.” —Stephen
King
22) “Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder,
the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a
decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and
medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities
into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and
their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead,
defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and
give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are
above society?…[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the
price we pay for a mercenary — oops sorry, volunteer — force that thinks
it is doing the dirty work.” —Washington Post blogger, William Arkin
23) “I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero – I think
throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” –
Bill Ayers
24) “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our
‘support’ for blindly following orders?” —Ted Rall
25) “For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any
form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been
inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal.
But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who
hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade
under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of
their unit?”
Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the
trauma “fragging” inflicts on that officer’s family back home should be
considered, he responded: “How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann’s
family?” — From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily
Source: http://bit.ly/1ziHeBY
--
"Next question: Why hasn’t Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
terrorist groups if they’re not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who
didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
"The term civil rights has unfortunately become a code phrase for the
left. Civil rights used to be about giving people the same rights that
others had – in the case of blacks, the right to vote, use public
accommodations, and be treated the same for job and school applications.
Now it means something completely different. Now civil rights is about
giving special rights to certain groups, while at the same time taking
away rights from everyone else." (Pedro Gonzales)
killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished
soul.” – Max Blumenthal
3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and
Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a
childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members
and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and
intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in
the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of
nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it
also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance
and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David
Masciotra at Salon
4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation
of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would
willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul
racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that
extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe
5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip
yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people
have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal
with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life
that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president
and those who support him.
I will never say, ‘support the troops.’ I don’t believe in the validity
of that statement. People say, ‘I don’t support the war, I support the
troops’ as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the
troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no
valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we
should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor
of ‘just supporting the troops.’ I wish everything were that easy.”
—Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian
6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops
home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have
more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan?
At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape
themselves." – Bill Maher
7) “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were
cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r
worse.”— Michael Moore
8) “What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there’s
not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier
nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in
Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh, from other countries,
particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-
Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios
with impunity….” — Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley
9) “Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the
process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that
automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a
soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment
program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp
as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a
uniform… that is exactly what it is.)” —Stan Goff at the Huffington Post
10) “Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!
…
This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about
making friends and finding out more about the military that you don’t
trust…
Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of
town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you’re hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat.” — A flier from Iraq Vets Against
the War
11) “THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers
are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom
George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But
like those Hessians, today’s volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous
work largely for wages and benefits….” —David M. Kennedy in the New York
Times
12) “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard
and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you,
you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” —John Kerry
13) “If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining
the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in
Iraq.” —Charles Rangel
14) “For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a
certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time
spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured
was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find
completely understandable. It’s called doing penance, John. You don’t
bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your
daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South
Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can’t just take orders, we
decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your
suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you
think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were
civilians, you know.” —Mike Malloy
15) “I’m putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped… You never
know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I’m like, wow,
this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something.”
—Kanye West
16) “(It’s) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen
without invoking valor, without invoking the words ‘heroes.’ I feel …
uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so
rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.” —Chris Hayes
17) “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they
killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” —John Murtha smears the troops
on Haditha
18) “The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign
Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers
are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan.” —Code Pink
19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of
his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed
Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies
towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know,
killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When
he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A
lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the
terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." --
MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin
20) “Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns
on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English
professor, John Daly
21) “I don’t want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the
fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don’t,
then you’ve got, the Army, Iraq, I don’t know, something like that. It’s,
it’s not as bright. So, that’s my little commercial for that.” —Stephen
King
22) “Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder,
the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a
decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and
medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities
into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and
their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead,
defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and
give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are
above society?…[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the
price we pay for a mercenary — oops sorry, volunteer — force that thinks
it is doing the dirty work.” —Washington Post blogger, William Arkin
23) “I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero – I think
throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” –
Bill Ayers
24) “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our
‘support’ for blindly following orders?” —Ted Rall
25) “For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any
form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been
inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal.
But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who
hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade
under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of
their unit?”
Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the
trauma “fragging” inflicts on that officer’s family back home should be
considered, he responded: “How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann’s
family?” — From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily
Source: http://bit.ly/1ziHeBY
--
"Next question: Why hasn’t Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
terrorist groups if they’re not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who
didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
"The term civil rights has unfortunately become a code phrase for the
left. Civil rights used to be about giving people the same rights that
others had – in the case of blacks, the right to vote, use public
accommodations, and be treated the same for job and school applications.
Now it means something completely different. Now civil rights is about
giving special rights to certain groups, while at the same time taking
away rights from everyone else." (Pedro Gonzales)
Daryl
Feb 7, 2015, 6:08:37 PM2/7/15
to
On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> 1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
> murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at me
> 1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
> murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that part
of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were supposed
to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
>
> 2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
> occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished
> soul.” – Max Blumenthal
the tv and other things. While he was a successful sniper, he was a
washout as a civilian. The movie left out that he was unhinged. And
that is from his widow. The biggest tragity is that something bad and
violent was going to happen in his family regardless and he wasn't
seeking the help needed.
>
> 3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and
> Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a
> childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members
> and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and
> intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in
> the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of
> nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it
> also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance
> and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David
> Masciotra at Salon
>
> 4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation
> of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would
> willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul
> racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that
> extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe
>
> 5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip
> yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people
> have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal
> with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life
> that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president
> and those who support him.
you along with at least 2 layers of skin.
The rest is snipped as it's even further off the "Patriotic" track.
Geez, Cooper. And you ulra rightwingers certainly pick the damnest
thing to try and say "I Hate Obama". In this case, you are saying, "I
Hate America". During WWII and WWI, doing this in public like you have
done would have landed you in Prison. It's too bad that's still not so.
We have way too many traitors doing treasonis actions today.
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Jack G.
Feb 8, 2015, 2:55:01 PM2/8/15
to
On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 1:39:55 PM UTC-8, Joe Cooper wrote:
> 1) "In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn't happening now, but I will
> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
> murderous as our army has been in Iraq." --Seymour Hersh
> 1) "In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn't happening now, but I will
> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
>
> 2) "I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
> occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished
> soul." - Max Blumenthal
> 2) "I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
> occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished
>
> 3) "Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and
> Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a
> childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members
> and police officers as 'heroes.' The rhetorical sloppiness and
> intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in
> the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of
> nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it
> also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance
> and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible...." -- David
> 3) "Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and
> Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a
> childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members
> and police officers as 'heroes.' The rhetorical sloppiness and
> intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in
> the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of
> nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it
> also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance
> Masciotra at Salon
>
> 4) "American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation
> of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would
> willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul
> racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that
> extended to a savage air war." --James Carrollin the Boston Globe
>
> 4) "American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation
> of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would
> willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul
> racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that
>
> 5) "...(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip
> yellow ribbon 'support the troops' magnets off of cars or wherever people
> have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal
> with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life
> that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president
> and those who support him.
>
> I will never say, 'support the troops.' I don't believe in the validity
> of that statement. People say, 'I don't support the war, I support the
> troops' as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the
> troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no
> valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we
> should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor
> of 'just supporting the troops.' I wish everything were that easy."
> --Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian
> have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal
> with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life
> that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president
> and those who support him.
>
> I will never say, 'support the troops.' I don't believe in the validity
> of that statement. People say, 'I don't support the war, I support the
> troops' as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the
> troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no
> valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we
> should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor
> of 'just supporting the troops.' I wish everything were that easy."
>
> 6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops
> home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have
> more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan?
> At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape
> themselves." - Bill Maher
> 6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops
> home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have
> more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan?
> At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape
>
> 7) "My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were
> cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders r
> worse."-- Michael Moore
> 7) "My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were
> cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders r
>
> 8) "What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there's
> not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier
> nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in
> Iraq....They target and kill journalists ... uh, from other countries,
> 8) "What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there's
> not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier
> nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in
> particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-
> Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios
> with impunity...." -- Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley
> Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios
>
> 9) "Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the
> process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that
> automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a
> soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment
> program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp
> as theatrically as you want... I spent more than two decades wearing a
> 9) "Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the
> process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that
> automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a
> soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment
> program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp
> uniform... that is exactly what it is.)" --Stan Goff at the Huffington Post
>
> 10) "Is your enemy the state?
> Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!
> ...
> 10) "Is your enemy the state?
> Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!
>
> This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about
> making friends and finding out more about the military that you don't
> trust...
> This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about
> making friends and finding out more about the military that you don't
>
> Actions to take:...
> Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of
> town.
> Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you're hungry.
> Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat." -- A flier from Iraq Vets Against
> town.
> Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you're hungry.
> the War
>
> 11) "THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers
> are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom
> George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But
> like those Hessians, today's volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous
> work largely for wages and benefits...." --David M. Kennedy in the New York
>
> 11) "THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers
> are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom
> George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But
> like those Hessians, today's volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous
> Times
>
> 12) "You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard
> and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you,
> you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." --John Kerry
>
> 12) "You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard
> and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you,
>
> 13) "If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining
> the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in
> Iraq." --Charles Rangel
> 13) "If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining
> the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in
>
> 14) "For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a
> certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time
> spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured
> was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find
> completely understandable. It's called doing penance, John. You don't
> bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your
> daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South
> Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can't just take orders, we
> decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your
> suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you
> think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were
> civilians, you know." --Mike Malloy
> 14) "For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a
> certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time
> spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured
> was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find
> completely understandable. It's called doing penance, John. You don't
> bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your
> daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South
> Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can't just take orders, we
> decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your
> suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you
> think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were
>
> 15) "I'm putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped... You never
> know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I'm like, wow,
> this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something."
> --Kanye West
> this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something."
>
> 16) "(It's) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen
> without invoking valor, without invoking the words 'heroes.' I feel ...
> 16) "(It's) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen
> uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so
> rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war." --Chris Hayes
>
> 17) "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they
> killed innocent civilians in cold blood." --John Murtha smears the troops
> 17) "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they
> on Haditha
>
> 18) "The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign
> Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers
> are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan." --Code Pink
>
> 18) "The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign
> Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers
>
> 19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of
> his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed
> Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies
> towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know,
> killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When
> he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A
> lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the
> terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." --
> MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin
>
> 20) "Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns
> on their superiors." -- Warren County Community College adjunct English
> 19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of
> his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed
> Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies
> towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know,
> killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When
> he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A
> lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the
> terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." --
> MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin
>
> 20) "Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns
> professor, John Daly
>
> 21) "I don't want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the
> fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don't,
> then you've got, the Army, Iraq, I don't know, something like that. It's,
> it's not as bright. So, that's my little commercial for that." --Stephen
>
> 21) "I don't want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the
> fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don't,
> then you've got, the Army, Iraq, I don't know, something like that. It's,
> King
>
> 22) "Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder,
> the American public has indulged those in uniform....We pay the soldiers a
>
> 22) "Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder,
> decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and
> medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities
> into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and
> their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead,
> defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and
> give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are
> above society?...[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the
> medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities
> into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and
> their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead,
> defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and
> give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are
> price we pay for a mercenary -- oops sorry, volunteer -- force that thinks
> it is doing the dirty work." --Washington Post blogger, William Arkin
>
> 23) "I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero - I think
> throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters." -
> Bill Ayers
>
> 24) "Do our government's poorly paid contract killers deserve our
> 'support' for blindly following orders?" --Ted Rall
>
> 24) "Do our government's poorly paid contract killers deserve our
>
> 25) "For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any
> form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who's already been
> inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal.
> But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who
> hadn't conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade
> under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of
> their unit?"
>
> Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the
> trauma "fragging" inflicts on that officer's family back home should be
> considered, he responded: "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's
> family?" -- From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily
> 25) "For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any
> form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who's already been
> inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal.
> But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who
> hadn't conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade
> under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of
> their unit?"
>
> Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the
> trauma "fragging" inflicts on that officer's family back home should be
> considered, he responded: "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's
>
>
> Source: http://bit.ly/1ziHeBY
>
> --
> "Next question: Why hasn't Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
> Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
> rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
> terrorist groups if they're not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
> http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
>
> "Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
> on behalf of people who aren't and to impose their will on those who
> didn't ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
>
> "The term civil rights has unfortunately become a code phrase for the
> left. Civil rights used to be about giving people the same rights that
> others had - in the case of blacks, the right to vote, use public
>
> Source: http://bit.ly/1ziHeBY
>
> --
> "Next question: Why hasn't Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
> Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
> rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
> terrorist groups if they're not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
> http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
>
> "Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
> on behalf of people who aren't and to impose their will on those who
> didn't ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
>
> "The term civil rights has unfortunately become a code phrase for the
> left. Civil rights used to be about giving people the same rights that
> accommodations, and be treated the same for job and school applications.
> Now it means something completely different. Now civil rights is about
> giving special rights to certain groups, while at the same time taking
> away rights from everyone else." (Pedro Gonzales)
Daryl our duty loon seems to have a bigger soap box.
> Now it means something completely different. Now civil rights is about
> giving special rights to certain groups, while at the same time taking
> away rights from everyone else." (Pedro Gonzales)
Daryl
Feb 8, 2015, 3:22:15 PM2/8/15
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you ever decided to put your support behind our PRez to take care of the
problems the bad guys wouldn't be growing at an alarming rate. Instead,
you shit all over the Nation. Like Obama or not, he's elected
President. N ot supporting the Nation means we just keep getting in
deeper and someday we will have to take extreme action to cure it. If
you are waiting for a Republican President, ain't going to happen in
2016 and the problems need to be dealt with long before 2020. Too bad
it isn't dealt with like in WWII where they lock you traitors up.
meport
Feb 10, 2015, 6:52:14 AM2/10/15
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On 2/7/2015 6:08 PM, Daryl wrote:
> On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> 1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
>> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
>> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
>> murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
>
> Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at me
> or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that part
> of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were supposed
> to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
>
>
I WAS called a baby killer at a party at Duquesne University. I even
> On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> 1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
>> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
>> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
>> murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
>
> Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at me
> or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that part
> of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were supposed
> to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
>
>
got to ride in a police care to the Pittsburgh, PA police headquarters
as a result of my reaction to the young woman who kept baiting me about
being a baby killer, among other things, when the woman's boyfriend took
a swing at me and I punched him in the face and knocked out a couple of
his teeth.
So some of us, me included, were called baby killers.
--
--
---
meport
Jack G.
Feb 10, 2015, 9:51:39 AM2/10/15
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On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 3:52:14 AM UTC-8, meport wrote:
> On 2/7/2015 6:08 PM, Daryl wrote:
> > On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> >> 1) "In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
> >> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn't happening now, but I will
> >> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
> >> murderous as our army has been in Iraq." --Seymour Hersh
> On 2/7/2015 6:08 PM, Daryl wrote:
> > On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> >> 1) "In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
> >> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn't happening now, but I will
> >> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
> >
> > Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at me
> > or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that part
> > of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were supposed
> > to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
> >
> >
>
> I WAS called a baby killer at a party at Duquesne University. I even
> got to ride in a police care to the Pittsburgh, PA police headquarters
> as a result of my reaction to the young woman who kept baiting me about
> being a baby killer, among other things, when the woman's boyfriend took
> a swing at me and I punched him in the face and knocked out a couple of
> his teeth.
>
> So some of us, me included, were called baby killers.
>
>
> --
> --
> ---
> meport
All the Vietnam veterans I know including myself were
> > Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at me
> > or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that part
> > of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were supposed
> > to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
> >
> >
>
> I WAS called a baby killer at a party at Duquesne University. I even
> got to ride in a police care to the Pittsburgh, PA police headquarters
> as a result of my reaction to the young woman who kept baiting me about
> being a baby killer, among other things, when the woman's boyfriend took
> a swing at me and I punched him in the face and knocked out a couple of
> his teeth.
>
> So some of us, me included, were called baby killers.
>
>
> --
> --
> ---
> meport
called baby killers and other filthy names and anyone
who calls us liars is nothing but a bottom feeding SOB.
Joe Cooper
Feb 11, 2015, 2:35:25 PM2/11/15
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Daryl <dh...@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in
news:mb65sg$h9e$1...@dont-email.me:
> On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> 1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
>> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
>> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
>> murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
>
> Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at
> me or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that
> part of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were
> supposed to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
I am glad you were not subjected to the disgusting treatment received by
many others. I lived in Portland (Oregon) in the mid-60s, and spent a lot
of time at the airport, where troops were insulted and spat upon by
Kumbaya-singing assholes.
>> 2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
>> occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his
>> anguished soul.” – Max Blumenthal
>
> What was left out was the fact he frequently pointed a gun at his
> wife, the tv and other things. While he was a successful sniper, he
> was a washout as a civilian. The movie left out that he was unhinged.
> And that is from his widow. The biggest tragity is that something
> bad and violent was going to happen in his family regardless and he
> wasn't seeking the help needed.
As I recall, he was getting professional help for PTSD - is my memory
failing me?
>> 4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The
>> desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which
>> no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side,
>> there were foul racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a
>> generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war.” —James
>> Carrollin the Boston Globe
>
> In my mind, all WWII Veterans are heroes.
Absolutely.
[...]
> Geez, Cooper. And you ulra rightwingers certainly pick the damnest
> thing to try and say "I Hate Obama". In this case, you are saying, "I
> Hate America". During WWII and WWI, doing this in public like you
> have done would have landed you in Prison. It's too bad that's still
> not so.
I do not hate Obama, I hold him in contempt for his hatred of the nation
and its people.
> We have way too many traitors doing treasonis actions today.
Barack Obama is one of them.
news:mb65sg$h9e$1...@dont-email.me:
> On 2/7/2015 2:39 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> 1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby
>> killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will
>> tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and
>> murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh
>
> Each time I returned, no on called me a baby killer or spit on or at
> me or called me anything disrespectful. Those that were never in that
> part of the country all made up some pretty nasty things that were
> supposed to happen. And you, Cooper, never paid the price to belong.
many others. I lived in Portland (Oregon) in the mid-60s, and spent a lot
of time at the airport, where troops were insulted and spat upon by
Kumbaya-singing assholes.
>> 2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An
>> occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his
>> anguished soul.” – Max Blumenthal
>
> What was left out was the fact he frequently pointed a gun at his
> wife, the tv and other things. While he was a successful sniper, he
> was a washout as a civilian. The movie left out that he was unhinged.
> And that is from his widow. The biggest tragity is that something
> bad and violent was going to happen in his family regardless and he
> wasn't seeking the help needed.
failing me?
>> 4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The
>> desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which
>> no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side,
>> there were foul racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a
>> generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war.” —James
>> Carrollin the Boston Globe
>
> In my mind, all WWII Veterans are heroes.
[...]
> Geez, Cooper. And you ulra rightwingers certainly pick the damnest
> thing to try and say "I Hate Obama". In this case, you are saying, "I
> Hate America". During WWII and WWI, doing this in public like you
> have done would have landed you in Prison. It's too bad that's still
> not so.
and its people.
> We have way too many traitors doing treasonis actions today.
Joe Cooper
Feb 11, 2015, 2:38:17 PM2/11/15
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"Jack G." <j.gr...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:0d35f83a-a8a9-46f4-aa9c-
29547e...@googlegroups.com:
> All the Vietnam veterans I know including myself were
> called baby killers and other filthy names and anyone
> who calls us liars is nothing but a bottom feeding SOB.
Welcome home, Jack.
29547e...@googlegroups.com:
> All the Vietnam veterans I know including myself were
> called baby killers and other filthy names and anyone
> who calls us liars is nothing but a bottom feeding SOB.
Joe Cooper
Feb 11, 2015, 2:41:25 PM2/11/15
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Daryl <dh...@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in
news:mb8ggh$f6m$1...@dont-email.me:
> Your missin' with my country. No wonder the bad guys keep growing.
> If you ever decided to put your support behind our PRez to take care
> of the problems the bad guys wouldn't be growing at an alarming rate.
Obama is messing with the nation...messing all over it, and Obama's
disdain for the nation is what has CAUSED the rise in Islamic violence.
Lock and load.
--
"Next question: Why hasn’t Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
terrorist groups if they’re not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be
offended on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on
those who didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
"The term civil rights has unfortunately become a code phrase for the
left. Civil rights used to be about giving people the same rights that
others had – in the case of blacks, the right to vote, use public
news:mb8ggh$f6m$1...@dont-email.me:
> Your missin' with my country. No wonder the bad guys keep growing.
> If you ever decided to put your support behind our PRez to take care
> of the problems the bad guys wouldn't be growing at an alarming rate.
disdain for the nation is what has CAUSED the rise in Islamic violence.
Lock and load.
--
"Next question: Why hasn’t Obama ordered the Marine commandant at
Guantanamo Bay to stop providing an Islamic diet, prayer beads, prayer
rugs, and Korans to prisoners affiliated with al Qaeda, ISIL and other
terrorist groups if they’re not Islamic?" (Jan LaRue:
http://bit.ly/1ucU6Zp)
"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be
offended on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on
those who didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)
"The term civil rights has unfortunately become a code phrase for the
left. Civil rights used to be about giving people the same rights that
Daryl
Feb 11, 2015, 4:36:22 PM2/11/15
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On 2/11/2015 12:40 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> Daryl <dh...@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in
> news:mb8ggh$f6m$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Your missin' with my country. No wonder the bad guys keep growing.
>> If you ever decided to put your support behind our PRez to take care
>> of the problems the bad guys wouldn't be growing at an alarming rate.
>
> Obama is messing with the nation...messing all over it, and Obama's
> disdain for the nation is what has CAUSED the rise in Islamic violence.
>
> Lock and load.
>
Thank you, Abdul, you certainly know how express yourself.
> Daryl <dh...@nospammdroopyvids.com> wrote in
> news:mb8ggh$f6m$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Your missin' with my country. No wonder the bad guys keep growing.
>> If you ever decided to put your support behind our PRez to take care
>> of the problems the bad guys wouldn't be growing at an alarming rate.
>
> Obama is messing with the nation...messing all over it, and Obama's
> disdain for the nation is what has CAUSED the rise in Islamic violence.
>
> Lock and load.
>
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